Triangular-shaped object caught on video

[Helvetic]

http://www.incahoots.tv/features/2009/january/uforeports1/video.htm

Triangular-shaped object caught on video
by Roger Marsh

PASADENA, CA - JAN. 12, 2009 - Video of a triangular-shaped craft over the skies here appears rather spectacular in this piece shot by a NJ teenager. This as-yet uninvestigated case was filed today with the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) from a visual sighting that was caught on camera Jan. 8.

An 18-year-old New Jersey man filed the report, saying he was on vacation visiting his uncle when he saw the light in the sky and began to take pictures of it. He said a scan of the Web turned up a similar video shot by a man in Russia.

This report will be updated with a complete report on January 2009 cases filed with MUFON.

[Dantheman62]

Awesome find!, great videos!

[Antaletriangle]

Good find, great video-i remember from somewhere about pyramids will come from the sky when the next visitation occurs-i forget where i read/saw it though.

[Wormhole]

I have to say that is a special video, my absolute favorite is vid 3, when he argues with his father. The father says it's a star, and the young man is exasperated and then focuses his camera on a star to prove his point to his father. HUGE difference. The conversation was interesting in itself as the son pleads with his father to look into the camera, and the father refuses to.

Really beautiful footage, and not his first sighting! I am very impressed. This also lasted for over an hour to 1 and 1/2 hours. EVEN IF it had been a star, it would have moved. This was a stationary object. Diamond or square, whatever you want to call it...

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

[Czymra]

Oh man, it does seem like an eye in a diamond. But why does it say "triangular object"?

[Orion11]

ok, i hate to be the party pooper.....

but after close review....

Im almost positive this is Venus.

i know i know... lol

Im going to try and replicate this same thing with Venus, either tonight or within the next day or two.

I am as much a believer as the rest of you...

but Im just trying to be real. :)

see you soon. :)

[Orion11]

duplicate, my apologies.

[Wormhole]

Orion 11, I think it is great that you are going to try to debunk this. More power to you! If i had the same $1000 camera with the same lens, I would try it too! Best of luck, please let us know what the results are! Let us know the make and model of your camera too, my husband is a photographer and would be able to say what the difference would be in your equipment, from a professional point of view!

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

[orthodoxymoron]

Could this have been a holographic projection? If it were a NWO UFO spy-drone(is there such a thing?)...I doubt that it would be luminous. Does shape matter when it comes to UFO's? Is aerodynamics even a consideration? Perhaps it was a flying-pyramid...like in one of the sci-fi movies! Actually a spy-satellite is a spy-drone...and there are dozens of them, I hear.

[Dominic]

Very beautiful to say the least.

Peace

[Dantheman62]

ok, i hate to be the party pooper.....

but after close review....

Im almost positive this is Venus.

i know i know... lol

Im going to try and replicate this same thing with Venus, either tonight or within the next day or two.

I am as much a believer as the rest of you...

but Im just trying to be real. :)

see you soon. :)
Venus??, ya big party pooper you. LOL!

[Orion11]

Orion 11, I think it is great that you are going to try to debunk this. More power to you! If i had the same $1000 camera with the same lens, I would try it too! Best of luck, please let us know what the results are! Let us know the make and model of your camera too, my husband is a photographer and would be able to say what the difference would be in your equipment, from a professional point of view!

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole


Hi there wormhole!

thanks. :original:

But it is not so much about "debunking it" for me...
Ive never been one to "debunk" things..

in fact.. Ive actually always been one who believes more than they prolly should. lol

Many ppl will call hoax... while I am still sitting there believing it. LOL

Its really just about truth for me.. for myself really...
I dont really want to convince anyone of anything..
Id just like to know for myself, and if some of you would like to know as well, I would be more than happy to share. :wub2:

Here is my reasoning behind this object being Venus~

1:~ The kid taking the video states that he is looking west...
Right where you look to see Venus (which is extremely big and bright this time of year) many other people also mistake this for a "UFO" ( there have been at least 5 UFO sightings in my area recently that have all turned out to be Venus)

2:~ If you listen, towards the end of the 2nd video i think....
You will here him say something to the effect of ( "well it moved, it was up over there when i started filming, now its moved down over this way")..
(apparently not aware or not thinking about the Earth rotating)

3:~ he also states that it was in the sky for about an hour and a half;
90 minutes is almost the exact amount of time i see it every night before it goes below the horizon.

4:~ I have taken videos of other lights in the sky, (helicopters, planes, etc) , and when zoomed in enough, they do indeed look diamond shaped.

There are many things that say to me this is in fact the Planet Venus,
(though it would be much cooler if it werent, like the video in istanbul!!!)

The camera I will be using is a Canon, Im not positive of model at the moment as it belongs to a friend who just paid over $900 dollars for it,
It is one of the newest ones if that helps... But once I have the specs I will post them up for you, and pics of the camera itself if you like.

the exact camera model will not be needed to duplicate this, as long as it is a good quality camera.

I assure you.

Blessings
Andy :wub2:

[BROOK]

Cool Orion, can't wait to see the results...Thanks :original:

[Dantheman62]

OK, neither can I, because I'm curious if it is a ufo or not.

[Helvetic]

Sorry Orion11, but this is never ever Venus, or Uranus or somekind of planet.
This object is too much triangular for a planet or a star.

[Orion11]

Sorry Orion11, but this is never ever Venus, or Uranus or somekind of planet.
This object is too much triangular for a planet or a star.


Hi Helvetic! :original:

I understand those thoughts..

However...

Video cameras have been known to create a diamond shape when they are zoomed in extremely close on an extremely far abject and the camera is not able to focus properly... it is pushing the camera beyond its capabilities.

A r-O-und light certainly can look like a diamond shape.
But that doesnt really make it a diamond shape.....

I will show you what i mean soon enough. :wub2:

:wub2: n Bless

[Czymra]

Hi Helvetic! :original:

I understand those thoughts..

However...

Video cameras have been known to create a diamond shape when they are zoomed in extremely close on an extremely far abject and the camera is not able to focus properly... it is pushing the camera beyond its capabilities.

A r-O-und light certainly can look like a diamond shape.
But that doesnt really make it a diamond shape.....

I will show you what i mean soon enough. :wub2:

:wub2: n Bless

Being a film maker myself I can confirm that. It's a very effing consistent shape even when the camera moves so I have my doubts about this being a camera thing but note this:

Panasonic PV-GS400
Which Features
12x optical zoom with optical stabalizer.
700x digital zoom

(More details on the camera can be found here:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Panasonic-PV-GS400-Camcorder-Review.htm# )

Note that the he uses 700x (!!) digital zoom. That's insane I don't know how he managed to hold the camera still. Also, it's not an HD camcorder, this thing is normal video resolution (720x540). That also means that the CCD sensors aren't particularly big.
Now imagine if you zoom into that field 700 times, there aren't many pixels left.
As you can imagine digital zoom is nothing like an optical zoom, it takes the information that's already there at maximum optical zoom and then digitally enlarges it, so you won't get more details, in fact you will zoom into artefacts of the video codec if anything.

Let's have a look at what the codec does then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling

As you can see the colours of a codec, to compress it, are averaged. This will naturally create square artefacts of similar hue. Now I have no idea what the optical footprint of a planet like Venus would be, but if you remember that we draw stars in the sky not round but like pentagrams, you will remember that our eyes, just like any lens, create those beams around the centre of light. Put the codec across that and you have a diamond with something more tangible in the middle.

I'd be deligted if it was a Mason drone spying down upon us, but it might really be Venus. If it wasn't so overcast here I could shoot my HD camera at Venus, Orion, will you use HD or SD?

[Orion11]

:) hiyah Cyzmra!

Thanks for the info! :)

you'r absolutely right.

The camera i will be using is a Canon Vixia HG20, it is an HD camera.

Thanks again for the post. :wub2:
Blessings

[Wormhole]

This is exactly the type of thinking that creates resonate truth at the end of it. I am proud of my fellow Avalon Members for their ability to take a deeper view of the world. It is my sincere hope that the desire for truth will continue on this forum. Secretly, I hope that it isn't Venus! But I would be delighted to know, if in fact it was.:wink2:

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

[Czymra]

The sky was actually clear this night but I was far away from my camera. Ah well.

[peaceandlove]

Hi Everyone,

It's a beautiful ship if it is one. I love the colors too. I saw this on youtube a couple days ago posted it on 1/21/2009 look down the UFO Thread (although the video link I posted was only 1:04 minutes long) The videos here are more fun to look at:

UFO Pasadena California January 12 2009 Video

Strange shape for a ship....

hmmmmm....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FyEf...eature=related

Colin Replied with this:

This may not be the actual shape [diamond] of the object..

Diamond shapes on video cameras are usually due to "max" zooming on a bright light... and the result will be the camera aperture shape is caught on the video (which is a diamond shape).

Read Marvins excellent analysis of similar "diamond-shaped" UFO's over on Open Minds Forum: http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=uforeports&thread=4882&page=1#155884*

..and watch the test videos

*peaceandlove note: The test videos are at Reply #7 on the Open Minds Forum

[Dantheman62]

Thanks peaceandlove, I checked out the OMF link and now I think Orion11 is right and this might be Venus. If so then well done Orion11 !!

[Orion11]

:wub2:

im going to get the video tonight, gon be clear skies..

or so its supposed to be. lol

ill get some shots of it through the scope to maybe.

:)

thanks peoples. <3

edit:..lol.... poor Dan... sends me the link to this post all excited n stuff!!....... then i go n ruin it. lol :)
( i was excited for a couple minutes too!!) lol

[Dantheman62]

HaHa, good eye though!!!

[Czymra]

Seem Orion never made it. I've been just outside since it's full moon I went lunatic and had to grab my camera to capture both the full moon and the ridiculously bright Venus at the opposite end. I think after looking at it with all kinds of settings through my High Definition camera I can calmly say that whatever the boy believed to see there, it's most likely Venus he captured. I got rather similar results with the right settings.
Trying to see anything of that size no matter how bright, through a consumer camcorder is plain ridiculous and mind me I've used my optical telelens converter.

If you want to see pictures let me know but I haven't bothered to transfer the material yet. It's rather disenchanting watching the moon through the viewfinder when it strips away all that I see with my eyes.

[Dantheman62]

Yeah where's Orion11 when you need him, HaHa

[Helvetic]

Czymra, would be nice to see your stills.

[Orion11]

lol Dan. :P

Yeah I havent gotten a chance to get that camera here yet,
I will though,
Venus isnt going anywhere for awhile. lol

Czymra~ I would love to see your footage/pics. :D Thanks!

Really though, I will make it a point to get that video real soon. ,<3

[Czymra]

Okay, what follows are chronologically ordered pictures of having Venus at full zoom (my camera has a built in optical zoom and I added a 1.7 converter lens which brings the optical maximum to 17x, then there is a 120x digital zoom added... so effectively the whole zoom range should be 120x times 17x; but I might be wrong O_o). This was recorded with the best focus I could find (curiously not infinity) and then slowly lowering the exposure (gain will be gone after the first few pictures). Also note that this is an HD camcorder with a resolutions of 1080i. The interlaced pictures become apparent as I'm shooting at 25 frames per second (half of the optimal 50) which will account for some of the artefacts and fragments that occur.
Anyway, here goes:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7605/screencapture3lv2.pnghttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9706/screencapture4ph9.pnghttp://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7167/screencapture5lr6.pnghttp://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2116/screencapture7yd7.pnghttp://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9523/screencapture8dg0.pnghttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8779/screencapture9mn2.png

Please try tilt your displays/adjust your brightness to see the full diamond shape emerge.

On a second go with a different focus even better reconstruction of the ominous 'all seeing eye' could be achieved:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8055/screencapture11us4.pnghttp://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4894/screencapture12cj9.pnghttp://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1082/screencapture13ha7.pnghttp://img22.imageshack.us/img22/497/screencapture14wz2.pnghttp://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5506/screencapture15wm1.png

Mind that the pictures you see here are also downsized for web.

Some bonus pictures of this oddness of a full moon night:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1989/screencapture20ye1.pnghttp://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4994/screencapture22km8.png

And Venus in the night sky, incredibly bright:

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7294/screencapture19mg9.png

[Dantheman62]

Cool shots! I see you didn't get that same effect that the kid did in the original video, but I think he had a stronger zoom.

[Czymra]

Cool shots! I see you didn't get that same effect that the kid did in the original video, but I think he had a stronger zoom.

As mentioned before, he shot on Standard Definition, I'm on High Definition, a huge difference. He also had a stronger zoom than me, so I think it's only logical that his artefacting would be stronger.
Also, the colours are only a matter of what white balance is set. I didn't bother changing as the real colour of an object like that is not determinable by a camera. What should the white balance be set to anyway? The object is probably in broad daylight where (and when) it is seen while the camera is in darkness.

[Orion11]

hey everyone...

I finally got the video of Venus,
(with the same HD camera i mentioned previously) :original:

I also got the moon in there with it..

But its just as i thought it would be,
the diamond shape and all. .. (even the round thing in the center).

as soon as i get them uploaded i will share them with you all. :wub2:

[Dantheman62]

Wow a blast from the past, LOL! still shots would do if you don't want to upload a video.

[Orion11]

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=119637#post119637

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecadv3j0OcQ&feature=channel_page

[Dantheman62]

Yup that proves it again, and I see the original video was removed by user, Doh!
Thanks for the proof O11!

[Orion11]

:wub2: