Has Avalon been hijacked under the nexus disguise? [Archive]

lawlessline

02-28-2009, 02:44 PM

Hi All,

As I start this thread I realise I will recieve alot of flack, but it keeps coming back to so I feel I should say what I have to say. I would also like to state before hand, that agree with world meditation and alot of the infomation provided under the nexus headings.

Firstly: There is a small group who joined one after the other, who, underwhat i can see only have ever contributed under the nexus headings. (in no order of importance, just incase people take this to heart) Alchemkey, Astralwalker, Startreka, Phiedpiper, Perseide, Phireflye and Galaxy girl. This gives me an uneasy feeling as to the intention of people coming on to thz site and directing their own personal agenda. Why not just come out at the beginging and make it clear what you wanted to drive through the site? People may want that? But because it was presented in a different way I feel there is more than meets the eye.

I should also state that these members seem to be heading in the right direction and I don't feel any nastyness in their approach.

Secondly, the infomation that was presented and was present beautifully, can be found on the web and in books such as cropcircleconnector.com and the antigravity and the world grid. The infomation was pre organised over several days allowing a constant feed on the vibration that was created by the orignal thread. If the infomation was new to the world arena, then that I can understand. Some of the orignal authors were not given credit for their work that was then taken and placed on the thread as new info for the world. This I feel is unfair to people who have taken huge parts of their lives to compile.
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There have been threads previously questioning similarly to what I am saying. i.e. The new age movement being used as a pupet and Avalon and its connection to the church of signtologie (excuse spelling).

I would wonder what Kerry and Bill would have to say. They are as rare as sunflowers in December at the moment.

As I say I agree with alot of the infomation and was delighted by the orignal thread. I have raised my reservations on the world meditation as the grid is controlled by the PTB under the guise of the churche and official building. For a full exsplaination you can see my posts on the orignal nexus thread.

I know I may be breaking some eggs but without that you cann't do an cake.

With great respect to all on this site I close.

alyscat

02-28-2009, 02:59 PM

Hmmm, I don't think Avalon has been hijacked. I read it daily, several times a day, and even with Kerry and Bill's recommendation to the thread, I haven't been able to "get into" the Nexus stuff.

I don't read every thread - and in my book, that's ok. There's enough here for all of us, in the endless variety of thoughts and learnings.

So far, there are, what, 2 threads on the Nexus stuff, maybe 3? The original, the one setting up the meditations, and the one asking for comments post meditation. That doesn't seem to be excessive to me. Also, even though I haven't participated in this one, I have no problems with group meditations, and have never experienced the New Age phenomena as relating to scientology. But, that's just my experience. I have experienced the value in group meditations, or group focus.

alys

Surial

02-28-2009, 03:45 PM

Almost everyone here at Avalon has a personal agenda of some sort. Whether it be for enlightenment, curiosity, fear, or just having fun. The only advice I can give in this subject is to be yourself and not let others get you sucked in to their personal agendas. Unless these agendas are productive in your spiritual growth or you feel something new to cling on to.

I think many of the people here are awakened and tired of the old system that has plagued the Earth for at least the last 26,000 years. We are entering a new age where we are coming together to raise ourselves out of the muck.

Either way, we change everyday from the new information. We are shaping our beliefs and conceptions everyday. The Nexus is a positive agenda. Some will ride that rainbow and some may not. But Avalon is a great place for information. Find what ever energy harmonizes with you and float around the rest.

That reminds me, I think there is a Nexus meditation today. If the mood hits me right I may join in on a home mediation session.

Czymra

02-28-2009, 04:19 PM

What I see as the current dynamic on Avalon is this:

1. Loads of the old UFO, PTB Agenda, Finance, Conspiracy stuff intermixed with a nice bit of doom and gloom
2. The Nexus threads
3. Some others that are actually productively discussing something at depth.

In my short time here I think the variety of topics has fallen. I don't think Nexus is accountable for it, but I know that I am certainly getting tired of the same stuff again. Yes, okay, maybe there are UFOs, yes okay the PTB exist, are they growing or waning? No one knows. It's all a huge part of speculation and the actual purpose of helping ourselves grow or be prepared was somewhat lost.
But hey, that's just me not liking yet more news on the same old story. The system is collapsing, alright. Of course there's going to be 'disaster' all over. Rather than focusing on it, one might try to figure how to get around it.

alyscat

02-28-2009, 05:32 PM

But Czymra, this has been how Avalon has been all along, at least as far as I've been here, including bits and pieces of ground crew meetings and survival information. I think that when things get quiet, we tend to fall back on the old stuff (which is sometimes repackaged as new stuff :mfr_lol:
alys

Dantheman62

02-28-2009, 05:50 PM

I don't think it's been hijacked at all, that section of people pretty much stay in that Nexus section, mostly Camelot-General Discussion. There's also a lot of good people there, I just let them be because it's not my area of interest or knowledge. The forum definitely has it's boring times too, sometimes with no new info coming in we rehash old subjects over and over, but it goes up and down.

lawlessline

02-28-2009, 09:01 PM

Hmmm, I don't think Avalon has been hijacked.

Sorry shouldn't have used the hijacked. Term was too strong.

That reminds me, I think there is a Nexus meditation today. If the mood hits me right I may join in on a home mediation session.

I have been involved in group meditation for the last 10 yrs. We all make it when we can. If not a personal meditation never does any harm.LOL

Rather than focusing on it, one might try to figure how to get around it.

Totally. I thought the thing was set up for that sort of thing.

I don't think it's been hijacked at all, that section of people pretty much stay in that Nexus section, mostly Camelot-General Discussion. There's also a lot of good people there, I just let them be because it's not my area of interest or knowledge. The forum definitely has it's boring times too, sometimes with no new info coming in we rehash old subjects over and over, but it goes up and down.

Thanks for the honest replies. After a bad few days churning this over, its good to hear the lezvel headed reaction.

Maybe its just me with a Bee in the bonet about it. Just seems too well contrived. Even the members that I mentioned in my first post, I think have their hearts in the right direction. Maybe I am just over causcious?

But I still have to ask, where have all the whistle blowers and organisers gone? Maybe I should just continue down my path and see what turns up?

Thankyou for your replies.

Czymra

02-28-2009, 09:44 PM

Well, it is all almost too nice and perfect so let's keep our eyes open.

As for the Forum however, I'd love to see a little more constructive suggestion and less 'news'.

The purpose of 'preparing' or even 'changing' reality is, as I said, sadly only being discussed at a maximum of maybe 5 threads. Apart from that, it's all "Read this book, is the earth really hollow, that's what the PTB want us to do, don't buy into New Age..."
Let's come up with a little more of our own discourse please.

unlimited mind

02-28-2009, 09:47 PM

when folks are magnetically drawn to one purpose, it suggests that they have the foresight that something like the NEXUS project could benefit the greater whole.

i have created a page on my website for this project, and listed the synchronicities that led me to these same conclusions>>> that when we ACT as ONE, we become ONE.

it will take all of us to get the word out for this event. there is no one person that is driving this 'train'. this suggests that we do not need a leader to unite. we just do what we each feel will benefit the project.

for this PROJECT to succeed as we envision, means we must ALL align ourselves with the original intent. UNITY ONENESS LOVE

Hi All,

As I start this thread I realize I will receive a lot of flack, but it keeps coming back to so I feel I should say what I have to say. I would also like to state before hand, that agree with world meditation and a lot of the information provided under the nexus headings.

Firstly: There is a small group who joined one after the other, who, under what i can see only have ever contributed under the nexus headings. (in no order of importance, just in case people take this to heart) Alchemkey, Astralwalker, Startreka, Phiedpiper, Perseide, Phireflye and Galaxy girl. This gives me an uneasy feeling as to the intention of people coming on to the site and directing their own personal agenda. Why not just come out at the beginning and make it clear what you wanted to drive through the site? People may want that? But because it was presented in a different way I feel there is more than meets the eye.

I should also state that these members seem to be heading in the right direction and I don't feel any nastiness in their approach.

Secondly, the information that was presented and was present beautifully, can be found on the web and in books such as cropcircleconnector.com and the antigravity and the world grid. The information was pre organized over several days allowing a constant feed on the vibration that was created by the original thread. If the information was new to the world arena, then that I can understand. Some of the original authors were not given credit for their work that was then taken and placed on the thread as new info for the world. This I feel is unfair to people who have taken huge parts of their lives to compile.
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There have been threads previously questioning similarly to what I am saying. i.e. The new age movement being used as a puppet and Avalon and its connection to the church of Scientology (excuse spelling).

I would wonder what Kerry and Bill would have to say. They are as rare as sunflowers in December at the moment.

As I say I agree with a lot of the information and was delighted by the original thread. I have raised my reservations on the world meditation as the grid is controlled by the PTB under the guise of the church and official building. For a full explanation you can see my posts on the original nexus thread.

I know I may be breaking some eggs but without that you can't do an cake.

With great respect to all on this site I close.

Czymra

03-01-2009, 12:01 AM

We lost many when the forum went to subscription..... Also, when Camelot Forum was closed I believe that sent a message to whistleblowers that this wasn't the place.

Remember Bill and Kerry's Stated Goals:

Our goals:

• To provide important information and resources to enable individuals and communities to function optimally in what may be troubled times ahead.

• To support aware individuals in networking and forming groups as they wish.

I guess everyone should read the home page occassionally to get a reminder of original intent. http://www.projectavalon.net/index.html

Maybe you are feeling the honeymoon is over,the thrill is gone, the bloom is off the rose.....didn't take long. Six short months......

Admittedly, I never read the goals, but aren't we somewhat off?

orthodoxymoron

03-01-2009, 02:31 AM

giovonni

03-01-2009, 07:29 AM

Freedom is a wonderful thing. Everyone has an agenda. The collision of these conflicting agendas keeps any one agenda from dominating. No one is forced to view this site. I look at lots of sites. I try not to take any one of them too seriously. The subject matter on this site tends to be highly controversial and speculative...but people who are looking for that sort of thing tend to congregate here. It's very hard to hijack the internet...which is why the PTB may try to severely censor it...or shut it down completely. Appreciate and enjoy the freedom...while it lasts.

Well said orthodoxymoron:

Project Avalon has and is still fulfilling its> purpose here on and off this forum.
Whether it be through Project Camelot ~ the Avalon Library ~ or the Nexus Exercises.
We each contribute through our individual threads and and post.

The networking continues!

Those of us who realize this> know who we are> and what the mission is.

We are all like minded individuals ~ bonded through ~ a consciousness in ONE!

Humble Janitor

03-01-2009, 11:00 AM

Certainly not.

There's only like what, one thread for the Nexus?

And as much as I'd love to join in on meditation, I'm getting a bit in over my head with my life now. For me, it's a challenge of balancing what I want to do with what I need to do and that balance is out of whack now.

dagon

03-01-2009, 05:32 PM

its a conspiracy rapped in an enigma. hope my grammar and spelling is correct with that statement. <<<. LOL..I don't know these people personally, I deal with some of these people. and find them genuine. and not over bearing. the message is a solid (ONE). I welcome there energy. and find this proceeding with nothing but love and respect. Im not part of the group. but from what I have seen and exp. there is no threat to anything. and it has opened my hart a bit. I did practice the meditation. on my own with the group time. and I think Ill continue doing so. after all I want a better world to live in. for us all. and a message of love cant be all that bad. I have welcomed a few to my space page. and nothing but beautiful spiritual inspirations have come threw. I think if this group of people continue here in avalon like they have. by all means.. welcome. were all fighting the good fight here. and we need all the help we can get from good people. there is so few heroes left in the world.

I think those who fear this energy, are those who have a strong faith in the big 3 religions. meditation is not supported in the big 3. I wonder why?

on another note.. kerry and bill.. please hurry on that david icke interview.. Please.. I cant wait.

love to everybody..

cheers

chitty

03-01-2009, 05:48 PM

We lost many when the forum went to subscription..... Also, when Camelot Forum was closed I believe that sent a message to whistleblowers that this wasn't the place.

Remember Bill and Kerry's Stated Goals:

Our goals:

• To provide important information and resources to enable individuals and communities to function optimally in what may be troubled times ahead.

• To support aware individuals in networking and forming groups as they wish.

I guess everyone should read the home page occassionally to get a reminder of original intent. http://www.projectavalon.net/index.html

Maybe you are feeling the honeymoon is over,the thrill is gone, the bloom is off the rose.....didn't take long. Six short months......

Well said and due Kathleen, thanks for that. I to vowed to discontue when we went subscription. Here I am. This is my first forum and the information I find here by some devoted and much appreciated posters will keep me here.

To each his own I say. I have a choice on my path, and I find soulmates here.

Peace and Love:thumb_yello:

lawlessline

03-09-2009, 10:28 PM

Is it me but is there major bumping going on with the nexus 2012 topic??????

Czymra

03-09-2009, 10:32 PM

Is it me but is there major bumping going on with the nexus 2012 topic??????

Sure is, let them have their fun. However, I am with you on the criticism. I'd encourage to ask that question of trust again and again.

lawlessline

03-09-2009, 10:37 PM

Sure is, let them have their fun. However, I am with you on the criticism. I'd encourage to ask that question of trust again and again.

Sure thing. But is the hidden hand coming out into the open???:roll1::roll1:

Czymra

03-09-2009, 10:40 PM

Sure thing. But is the hidden hand coming out into the open???:roll1::roll1:

What do you mean?
...
Nevermind, I get it.

lawlessline

03-09-2009, 10:45 PM

As I said before. an organised group using the forum to advance their agenda?
I don't know if you watch the video on Camelot with John Lear. He talked about a forum. Eagles who disobey I think not sure. It was hijacked, right down to the mods running the thing. Very similar to NWO tactics, but in a fluffy loving way. But handing over ones energy to a grid which is controlled by the church and the PTB may not be the best way to get the levels up. Also I think it can only be an individual affair. We should not base our advancement on the levels of others????

Czymra

03-09-2009, 11:34 PM

futureyes

03-10-2009, 02:01 AM

hmm ...

a few weeks back ... i came across a painting in a gallery ... hooked me as i couldn't make out quite what it was ... abstract yes but there was something about it ... so i sat and viewed it ...

i eventually seen many leaves within its composition ... in various different colors ... only how i perceived it ...

then i watched other's reactions of this painting when they came upon it ... some simply kept walking without slowing down ... others slowed down but when it seemed they didn't get it ... they walked on ...

still some stopped their selves and did what i did ... took a moment ... or many ... to feel if this said painting resonated with them ... if it did ... what did they perceive of it ... the comments i heard were so vast ... some seen planets while others could see rhinos ...

i sat at this painting for quite some time ... pulling in something much deeper than the obvious ... the painting i was viewing ...

i was learning about perception and resonance ... how we individually all differ in this way ...

was it ok for me to have spent time with this painting ... sure it was ... intuitively i resonated with wanting to know more about it ...

was it ok for others to walk by it ... sure it was ... that was their truth and they simply kept walking ... intuitively ...

i hadn't witnessed anyone saying to the passerbys that they must stop at this painting just because they their selves had ...

no passerby made any comment to the others who were viewing this painting that they were silly to do so ... they simply commented to their selves ... it wasn't for them ... they already knew immediately ...

no one was of the right and no one was of the wrong ...

perception ... resonance ... the setting a gallery ... where all knew that whatever hangs on those walls ... either will or will not resonate with everyone for we are all different ... we all knew that going in ... all remembered this ...

if a group of people ... got together ... and decided to purchase this said painting ... truly believed it was of that worth to them ... would it be fair for the passerbys to come back and tell this group of purchasers that this painting is a far cry from its tagged price ... that they did not feel it was and therefore ... this group should not as well ...

would it be fair to say that this group's decision was based upon free will ... that if the painting resonated with their selves and they would pay that price for it ... that it must be true and right for them?

would it be fair to say that it would be up to this group of purchasers ... to take said painting back to their home ... or office ... and trust that over time ... they either will or they won't continue appreciating this painting as they once did when it hung on the walls of the gallery ...

would it be fair to know that while it was in their possession ... that they got something from it ... some understanding that only they required ... and others did not ...

could we trust they could make an informed choice that resonated within them ... to buy this painting because they appreciate it for what they will receive from it ... through its resonance within them ...

could we trust that they have something to gain ... within the bigger picture ... that others do not ...

would i have personally purchased that painting ...

individually ... i don't have that kind of money ...

collectively ... i'd have to feel if the painting and the other buyers ... resonated within me to do so ... did i have the same perception of the painting as they did ...

and if i chose to become one of the buyers ... i would trust the passerbys respected my decision ... that i have something to learn from participating in the acquirement of the art piece ...

that i felt it was of the value ...

and if i decided it was not ... that the group would have trust in me that it was not for me ... and respect me as such ...

hmm ...

EpiphaMe

03-10-2009, 02:48 AM

well, perhaps this site has always been infiltrated, however, not hijacked. I think there was much promise when it first started, but soon the rules set in, soon censorship began over perceived bad language, that sort of thing.

There were many marvelous minds that are now gone, that is for sure! I signed up for the $5/mo and am too lazy to stop it.

I say that because I'm not very articulate most times, other rare times I marvel at my writing ability.

Still, I think that the 'many' that are now gone saw the "too good to be true" come true... the premise of getting together, connecting w/others, networking, caused the ultimate in your face confrontation of how difficult it really it to trust another "anonymous" person online... the reality of facing possible relocation and what that involves...

Memes are in your face here, your own and others'. Ultimately this site became a chat session, new topics every day ad nauseum... some here just keep on posting new threads after another after another...

no topic ever becomes realized... Then the 2012 Nexus event thingie.

I am on the frequency that I am and engaging myself w/that will not change me... I am Not interested in formula... ritual, that sort of thing.
And AstralWalker's thread... well, it's all entertaining... but just the word Astral has my sour tastbuds alert although I do find both fascinating .... I've heard enough of the possible scenarios...

I'm taking action at the homeplace ... what the heck are the rest of you doing except being online all the time??? < I ask

HAVE there been any REAL connections made... have any of the ground crew MADE a move physically???

Are we here for entertainment purposes??? To see how many threads we can start??? Does anyone really want to engage in any real discussion at all???? OK, I'm tired... I've been busy laying tile in the master shower stall...

b'nite. sorry if i offended anyone

ps: I am sick n tired of trying to write a post only to find that I'm not signed in any more... what IS that??? >>then it's lost forever!!!
pss: not to mention that Bill & Kerry are hardly ever here w/comments... NOR are there any Whistleblowers of "reknown" here anymore, whatever that is... get my drift???

I am tired.. goin' ta bed!

futureyes

03-10-2009, 02:57 AM

epiphame ...
got your drift ...
bill and kerry ... m.i.a. ... feels very significant to me as of late re this forum ...

henners

03-10-2009, 04:59 AM

I agree with all the commenst posted. It would be nice if at least Bill occasionally posted here. Kerry already said she was backing out from this site but staying with Camelot.

EpiphaMe
HAVE there been any REAL connections made... have any of the ground crew MADE a move physically???
I personally have made some very good friends in this site as part of the GC. And we are meeting with Melbourne GC in April.

CZYMRA
As for the Forum however, I'd love to see a little more constructive suggestion and less 'news'. I totally agree with this point CZYMRA. Unless its something that is ground braking news.

Dantheman62
I don't think it's been hijacked at all, that section of people pretty much stay in that Nexus section, mostly Camelot-General Discussion. There's also a lot of good people there, I just let them be because it's not my area of interest or knowledge. The forum definitely has it's boring times too, sometimes with no new info coming in we rehash old subjects over and over, but it goes up and down.
Totally agree with this comment.

:thumb_yello:

Henry

Carol

03-10-2009, 07:30 AM

Hijacked? No. Changed? Yes.

EpiphaMe, I resonated with much of what you wrote. For myself all our time is spent making our space as self-sufficient as possible. We just don't have much time to be online. All extra time is spent serving the community.

We did meet with one member here.. it didn't work out. Often internet personalities are quite different in real life.

As for Bill and Kerry - Bill has not been back to post since the beginning of December and it is now March - 3 months absent. That says a lot.. Kerry just posts info on the latest Camelot interview.. that's it.

From what I've observed people are digging in and doing instead of talking or posting.

dayzero

03-10-2009, 07:37 AM

Oh no, not paranoia an a UFO conspiracy site?!

only kidding!

I had to laugh when someone elsewhere compared the 'organisation' of this meditation to the PTB.....i mean.....sheeesh....

things flux and change.....the Nexus is good [I think], something concrete .....and whether you 'believe' the premise makes no odds, as you could use the event to network with other GROUND CREW.

[remember them? I am one....ARE YOU?].....
when i first joined this site, it was to discuss the Handbooks.
and the GROUND CREW.

Hardly anyone EVER discusses them, or seems to have read them and I got a bit ****** off with that. And when they did discuss them, there was always some idiot banging on about Jesus or Jeshua and ruining it all...[ i can go to church anytime i want for that, and I have actual Bishops and others amongst my personal friends, so back off Christ-Enthusiasts I know what I'm talking about.....].........anyway, THAT was hijacking.....and nearly put me off this place for ever. then i got over that too.

I'm glad the 'whistleblowers' have gone - how many more whistles need to be blown? that time is over - we KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, yeah?
this is not entertainment [although the gory 'bad news' that's posted here every day masquerades as such]

You are ALL Sovereign Integral.

so SORT IT OUT and stop bickering!

xxx

dayzero

03-10-2009, 07:38 AM

Oh, and PS,

You could ask Bill about Scientology, I believe he knows rather alot about it.

dayzero

03-10-2009, 07:42 AM

Oh, and PPS, B+K have been very very busy......not MIA at all.

If any of you check the Audio section of P Camelot you'll see [hear] many many new exciting interviews....that...guess what...people here don't seem to notice cuz they're so busy fretting about the latest conspiracy posting here, most of which are from the MSM......

Check the O'Leary video from the meeting with George Green in Equador, and the audio of George himself....and the Nazi/Vatican investigator Levenda....etc etc

You'll find many many very good pieces there.....

Best.

dZ

AussieG

03-10-2009, 11:31 AM

In a world of deception lies and hidden agendas, the catalyst for this forum we are all searching for the truth.

In my limited exposure to whistle blowers and truth seekers all I could fathom was that I had been shafted good and proper by the PTB.

I have been through a personal trauma that enlightened me to the fact that the world is not about me, it is about humanity.

Along came the nexus thread, I gave it the usual dose of healthy skepticism, was it information or disinformation was there hidden agendas, who were these people.

as I continued down the Nexus rabbit hole it began to resonate with my inner self the part that separates the b***s*** from reality.

Then I stumbled on Nassim Hassin who explained the fractal nature of our existence it all began to make sense. Combine that with Bob Dean, George Green (Paradigm for the New Earth), Marsia Schaffer and on and on. The message is clear " Change from Whats in it for me to How can I help."

To me the nexus tread uses the old Problem Reaction Solution
The problem has been described in fine detail.
The reaction is evidenced by this thread
The solution is offered to each and everyone to accept or reject

The difference is that Nexus thread is the only thread that offer's a solution

George Green said we cannot fight them we have been modeled to infinite
But with an intention to heal a pebble of good will can ripple over the waters of humanity. So by the individual desire to help expressed in the privacy of our thoughts, Astralwalker and associate believe we can make the changes to rid humanity of the shackles of greed and avarice.

These were my thought prior to meeting Astralwalker, subsequently I have found him to a humble gracious person, genuine in his desire to to do nothing more that deliver a message of his perception of a solution based on personal experience and 20 years of research, the though of hijacking a forum for personal of hidden agendas, to me could be no further from the truth.

Malletzky

03-10-2009, 12:27 PM

...that enlightened me to the fact that the world is not about me, it is about humanity....

AussieG, altough I resonate with the most parts of your answer, I must disagree with you above your statement that it is not about you...think about...if YOU do not change, how can you expect that the humanity will change? So it is about ME, YOU and each of us here on the earth, separated from another, altough we're ONE! And each one contributes with his efforts for achieving the final goal...the (re)union of our precious souls...

Be the forerunner, (Futureyes, thanks for these insights...you know what I mean :wub2:) be the one who will change first and show the others your path. If you only touch and inspire one soul, you've touched and inspired all other.

I would rather not comment the "highjacking" at all, it's not worth at all, as it reminds me of the old known PTB schema "divide and conquer"...will just leave to all of you to find your own truth on your own...simple as that...

But bear in mind please...you don't know me, please don't jugde me...so accept me and my path as it is...I do accept yours...as we're all one, already forget????

I will only repeat my statement again (wrote this on the NEXUS thread :trumpet:), that I'm so thankfull to have you ALL here as a part of my reality...

:wub2::wub2::wub2:
malletzky

Jacqui D

03-10-2009, 12:59 PM

I think hijacked is a little strong regarding the Nexus thread, each to their own i have always said.
I have never been big into meditation looking for outer insight i have been lucky and have been given much what i know today.
Be it true or not i have to make my own mind up on that one.
I would never push my thoughts on to others and would expect others to do the same.
The Nexus thread has obviously helped many on this site because of it's following i like to read what is posted there i take what i feel is good and move on.
If some feel they resonate in the mass rather than on a solitary basis then so be it!
This site was brought about because of the sheer scale of people contacting the Camelot site and telling their stories to Bill and Kerry, i think they have done a wonderful job in reuniting all of us whether we take all the discussions to heart ot not is not really the answer but that we can diverse with each other on ideas, forms of spirituality discussed and how we all believe that our lives are being touched by all these different informaties daily.
I would like to thank Bill and Kerry once again because i feel they are now being forgotten they are the fore runners of Avalon and without them this site would never have been put together.
Yes i would like to see their postive feedbacks more but such as life is we all have to carry on daily and it is not possible to be on 24/7.

There comes a time when threads become a little stale we are facing one of those times now, with much that has been discussed and everything has just about been discussed now i feel we are simply waiting for anything new.
Nexus found a niche i think for those who find meditation a daily or weekly need, if that suits them so be it.

AussieG

03-10-2009, 11:01 PM

Malletzky
I agree to change, one must firstly change them selves. Only then can it be expressed by power of example. My previous reference was to to self centered nature promoted by materialism, to keep us separate and controllable. It is in my opinion that it is tactic that has generated the divisions of humanity on all levels. Therefore when I express the world is not about me it is meant to be in the light of what mother Teresa said " If you want to help, find someone that is alone and let them know there not".

Carol

03-11-2009, 05:13 PM

Czymra

03-11-2009, 06:31 PM

Funny how some people seem to throw a fit when one is being critical, while others do their best to brush it over like nothing ever happened.
What's wrong with engaging in the matter (as long as it doesn't suck up lots of time)?

I find it strange that the question is if Avalon has been hijacked. No, it hasn't been hijacked, you can post what you wish. No absolute power on here has been corrupted, there is merely a huge magnet that sucks in all the 'feel good' (excuse me but finding an appropriate term is beyond me right now) meditators. That's fine by me.
The hijacking however does happens if we merely stand by and let someone else take the steering wheel.

The question is then the one of undermining the functioning of this board. I think, that to a degree might have happened, and I only say it with reluctance but whatever is going on in the Nexus thread is in a way syphoning away peoples attention or motivation, or at least has done so during winter (northern hemisphere mind me) to bring the forum to this inactivity.

Again, I do not oppose the Nexus 2012 as such, but I have serious concerns about the way its undertaking has been initiated and developed. It doesn't feel to me like empowerment of the individual within a group, it looks more like the individual is suckered into the group.
Fair enough, working with that large a number one is always betting on the 'follower mentality' so I won't throw myself off a cliff there. Why, however do all the critical thinkers and intuitives that don't feel like joining the Nexus just stand in silence with their mouth gaping open?

I'm not vouching for abundance of threads, just a little more participation in the thread that aren't 'more bad news is good news' and 'everything will be fine'. A little balance maybe?

Dayzero, I concur, your thread back then has been hijacked.

Dantheman62

03-11-2009, 09:03 PM

If Bill were interested in the forum he would be here posting. When he was very, very busy traveling to Austrailia he managed to contact us once or twice a day. We have not heard from him since the first part of December. Fact.
Which I disagree with, it's like starting a company and never showing up, not good in my book. At very least, at very minimum, I think either Kerry or Bill or both should've came in once and said a thanks to everyone who donated and subscribed. I was raised and taught to say thanks for every little thing, even if it's for somebody opening a door for you. Harsh? I don't think so, and nobody has said anything about them not saying thanks to everybody, so if it has to be me, so be it.

mudra

03-11-2009, 10:53 PM

lawlessline

03-11-2009, 11:14 PM

" syphoning people's attention or motivation"

Kindness
mudra

Mudra,

I am sorry but I am in the view that the moment that you have to motivate to move or awaken the people, sooner or later it gets treplace by order and regulations of that motivation.
I agree with the idea in principal, but I really feel that the only time that one consciousness will be found is when all respond to the inner call by their own motivation.
For example, if someone has cancer of the lungs and you say "they must stop smoking and take a particular plant to heal themselves." They don't and they keep smoking. You know them well so it effects your life. Do you wake them up to the reality or do you let them go blissfully down their path. Motivation always leads to a result. Sometimes more than just one result.

The infomation on the nexus thread is at base all over the webb. Cropcircles and alignments. Once a point of view and direction is placed upon that info. then it can lead people to become sheeple. The infomation has bbeen given. I think all has understood. Now rather than push the thing over the edge. Let people take it on board, run with it and we will all see the better for it. dependency on others to keep the energy high enough for one consciousness will only lead to a pyramidical system.

futureyes

03-11-2009, 11:15 PM

Which I disagree with, it's like starting a company and never showing up, not good in my book. At very least, at very minimum, I think either Kerry or Bill or both should've came in once and said a thanks to everyone who donated and subscribed. I was raised and taught to say thanks for every little thing, even if it's for somebody opening a door for you. Harsh? I don't think so, and nobody has said anything about them not saying thanks to everybody, so if it has to be me, so be it.

i agree dan ...
i once sold my company to someone who thought it would run itself ... owner need not be present ...
watched a business i gave birth to and nurtured for seven years slowly dissolve piece by piece as the employees couldn't connect to this person ... no inspiration nor encouragement to be had ... how sad that was to watch from a distance ...

i'm not saying avalon will dissolve ... i'm saying that when i signed up months back i could feel how proud bill and kerry were to give birth to this baby ... somehow figured they would actively but not intensely nurture it as it grew ... either one or the other or both ...

father and mother's energy missing from this forum of late i believe is of significance ... members say they feel a lull ... parent's should show up every full moon to inspire and encourage their children ...

respectively ...

:wub2:

orthodoxymoron

03-12-2009, 01:08 AM

Avalon has been hijacked by the hijacking conspiracy theorists and the absentee conspiracy theorists. Hijacking truthers unite! Inside job!

Seriously, there are many organizations(especially philosophical, religious, or spiritual) which are nothing more than personality cults. Regardless of the reasons, the absence of parental supervision may be the best thing for the people who participate in this forum. This is a truly decentralized grouping of seekers. This contributes to the development of independent thinking and personal responsibility.

technoshamanic

03-12-2009, 01:28 PM

To hopefully defuse this silly hijacking plot, I encourage everyone interested in constructively moving forward The Healing Experiment to participate in the new forum just set up. Link at the top of the page @ http://www.healingexperiment.com/thepeople.html (subscription free) :nono:

mudra

03-12-2009, 04:03 PM

Mudra,

I am sorry but I am in the view that the moment that you have to motivate to move or awaken the people, sooner or later it gets treplace by order and regulations of that motivation.
I agree with the idea in principal, but I really feel that the only time that one consciousness will be found is when all respond to the inner call by their own motivation.
For example, if someone has cancer of the lungs and you say "they must stop smoking and take a particular plant to heal themselves." They don't and they keep smoking. You know them well so it effects your life. Do you wake them up to the reality or do you let them go blissfully down their path. Motivation always leads to a result. Sometimes more than just one result.

The infomation on the nexus thread is at base all over the webb. Cropcircles and alignments. Once a point of view and direction is placed upon that info. then it can lead people to become sheeple. The infomation has bbeen given. I think all has understood. Now rather than push the thing over the edge. Let people take it on board, run with it and we will all see the better for it. dependency on others to keep the energy high enough for one consciousness will only lead to a pyramidical system.
Hello Tom,

Evolution of consciousness has in my humble opinion many ways to manifest.
Taking part into nexus has to be done from a choice made within each of us
from inner thruth,inner trust and inner sincerety .
If nexus echoes along those lines with someone than he should go for it .
If it doesn't than he should leave it alone.
In my opinion both persons will be right .
The path to enlightment is different for everyone.

Surial

03-12-2009, 04:51 PM

We are all part of the consciousness on this planet. There is no requirement for a label, organization, or movement to achieve oneness with the creator. Although it does help some people to feel connected to each other to achieve the same results. The ultimate goal is to raise the vibration of the planet. I believe this will happen regardless.

The inner consciousness of the source is already within us. It is just a matter of comprehension. As far as this forum, nexus is just a thread or two. The weight or value you give this topic determines your reaction.

fossileyesed

03-12-2009, 05:27 PM

Has Avalon been hijacked under the Nexus guise? No. Au contraire. I believe someone or some group is trying to hijack Nexus.

Thats what i was thinking/feeling:sneaky2:
Looking forward to saturday:original:

peace,love squared to the power of infinity........kent:trumpet:

mudra

03-12-2009, 06:39 PM

http://lotuspix.com/lotus-flower-IMGP6812-700.jpg

The Light of the World

by Eckhart Tolle
eckharttolle.com

When you are fully present and people around you manifest unconscious behavior, you won't feel the need to react to it, so you don't give it any reality. Your peace is so vast and deep that anything that is not peace disappears into it as if it had never existed. This breaks the karmic cycle of action and reaction. Animals, trees and owers will feel your peace and respond to it.

You teach through being, through demonstrating the peace of God. You become the "light of the world," an emanation of pure consciousness and so you eliminate suffering on the level of cause. You eliminate unconsciousness from the world.

This doesn't mean that you may not also teach through doing – for example, by pointing out how to dis-identify from the mind, recognize unconscious patterns within oneself and so on. But who you are is always a more vital teaching and a more powerful transformer of the world than what you say and more essential even than what you do.

Furthermore, to recognize the primacy of Being and thus work on the level of cause does not exclude the possibility that your compassion may simultaneously manifest on the level of doing, and in effect, by alleviating suffering whenever you come across it. When a hungry person asks you for bread and you have some, you will give it. But as you give the bread, even though your interaction may only be very brief, what really matters is this moment of shared Being, of which the bread is only a symbol. A deep healing takes place within it. In that moment, there is no giver, no receiver.

But there shouldn't be any hunger and starvation in the first place. How can we create a better world without tackling evils such as hunger and violence first?

All evils are the effect of unconsciousness. You can alleviate the effects of unconsciousness, but you cannot eliminate them unless you eliminate their cause. True change happens within, not without.

If you feel called upon to alleviate suffering in the world, that is a very noble thing to do, but remember not to focus exclusively on the outer. Otherwise, you will encounter frustration and despair. Without a profound change in human consciousness, the world's suffering is a bottomless pit. So don't let your compassion become one-sided.

Empathy with someone else's pain or lack and a desire to help must be balanced with a deeper realization of the eternal nature of all life and the ultimate illusion of all pain. Then let your peace flow into whatever you do and you will be working on the levels of effect and cause simultaneously.

This also applies if you are supporting a movement designed to stop deeply unconscious humans from destroying themselves, each other and the planet, or from continuing to inict dreadful suffering on other sentient beings. Remember; just as you cannot €ght the darkness, so you cannot €ght unconsciousness. If you try to do so, the polar opposites will become strengthened and more deeply entrenched. You will become identi€ed with one of the polarities; you will create an "enemy" and so be drawn into unconsciousness yourself.

Raise awareness by disseminating information, or, at the very least, practise passive resistance. But make sure that you carry no resistance within, no hatred, no negativity. "Love your enemies," Jesus said, which, of course, means have no enemies.

Once you get involved in working on the level of effect, it is all too easy to lose yourself in it. Stay alert and very, very present. The causal level must remain your primary focus, the teaching of enlightenment your main purpose and peace your most precious gift to the world.

Adapted from "The Power of Now"

lawlessline

03-12-2009, 07:26 PM

Hello Tom,

Evolution of consciousness has in my humble opinion many ways to manifest.
Taking part into nexus has to be done from a choice made within each of us
from inner thruth,inner trust and inner sincerety .
If nexus echoes along those lines with someone than he should go for it .
If it doesn't than he should leave it alone.
In my opinion both persons will be right .
The path to enlightment is different for everyone.

As usual Mudra, Beautifully put. My love and respect for you just gets deeper by the day.

lawlessline

03-12-2009, 07:31 PM

http://lotuspix.com/lotus-flower-IMGP6812-700.jpg

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Raise awareness by disseminating information, or, at the very least, practise passive resistance. But make sure that you carry no resistance within, no hatred, no negativity. "Love your enemies," Jesus said, which, of course, means have no enemies.

Adapted from "The Power of Now"

So true. Someone once said to me that you should love your neighbour more than yourself. I passive resistance to that in one way but accordance in another.

All the same As I said I am there for meds always. Just a different petal of the lotus Flower. It is Good to know you.

sun-toon´

03-12-2009, 11:53 PM

Funny how some people seem to throw a fit when one is being critical, while others do their best to brush it over like nothing ever happened.
What's wrong with engaging in the matter (as long as it doesn't suck up lots of time)?

You certainly have a knack for asking pertinent questions, Czymra.

I haven't been lurking or participating here until recently, but so far I've noticed that personal non-engagement policies seem to stand out. In fact, it seems to me that it's almost more of a passive aggressive pose than simple non-aggression.
This thread is titled provocatively, especially towards Nexus participants, so it's good to see that a few have come forward to defend it. OTOH, in some other threads where I've posted, it seems that one can post a position that is 90-180º from the flow of the dialog and no one accepts what is a direct challenge to their position. I understand that y'all had a pretty wild ride here a few months ago, and now it's calmed down and peaceful, but it seems to me that understanding, expansion and elevation of consciousness cannot occur in a venue like this without dialog.

I don't challenge anyone's beliefs or PoVs in order to be more right, it's always to bring an issue into the light. I also try not to talk out my ass...in other words I'm prepared to defend my position, though I'm also willing to concede to a higher order of understanding. So here's what I'm curious about...are people writing rote views that they don't fully understand or support themselves, so when challenged, they can only pass? Or do they smugly decline to engage at all, so as to always be right? (OK, 3rd choice...fuzzy, peaceful, bliss that needs no defense.)

Why.....do all the critical thinkers and intuitives that don't feel like joining the Nexus just stand in silence with their mouth gaping open?

And, conversely, when they don't stand in silence, only a few Nexus defenders bother to stand up.

Jnana

03-13-2009, 02:20 AM

I don't challenge anyone's beliefs or PoVs in order to be more right, it's always to bring an issue into the light. I also try not to talk out my ass...in other words I'm prepared to defend my position, though I'm also willing to concede to a higher order of understanding. So here's what I'm curious about...are people writing rote views that they don't fully understand or support themselves, so when challenged, they can only pass? Or do they smugly decline to engage at all, so as to always be right? (OK, 3rd choice...fuzzy, peaceful, bliss that needs no defense.)

What I see a lot of is people stating "My opinion is X" without elaborating on the justification for that position (myself included). Given that some of the issues are things that are impossible to know for sure (e.g., what exactly is going to happen in 2012?), and people's point of view may be based on a lifetime of experience but a limited number of concrete observations or experiences, it is really difficult to provide justification for one's point of view without typing pages and pages that few people are going to want to read. Even then, one person's evidence may look like complete nonsense to another. You can't know my experiences the way I do. Something deeply moving may seem like complete jibberish when expressed in English. The knowledge I bring to bear when evaluating evidence may be in subjects you know little about (not directed at any particular "you"). Some information may be just a little too personal. Maybe what I have to say about my experiences will seem too incredible to believe. And so on. So, practicing the law of allowance is not such a bad idea. I put in my two cents worth and move on.

There are times when I think I might try to defend a position, but then I wonder if it is really worth the time and effort to put together a well reasoned argument with supporting links. Will it really change anybody's mind? How much does that matter to me? So rather than argue each time I see a post that I don't agree with, I look for times when I can provide information that I feel is sound that will help make murky issues a little bit less so. I also will state a contrarian opinion when I feel the urge, but rarely see much point in arguing such things at length for the reasons I just stated.

As for the topic of this thread, I haven't really read the nexus threads since some of the early posts. It's just not something I felt the urge to be involved in. Those discussions seem to take place in a few focused threads and do not interfere with the rest of the forum, so I don't see any hijacking taking place.

lawlessline

03-13-2009, 07:30 AM

You certainly have a knack for asking pertinent questions, Czymra.

This thread is titled provocatively, especially towards Nexus participants, so it's good to see that a few have come forward to defend it. OTOH, in some other threads where I've posted, it seems that one can post a position that is 90-180º from the flow of the dialog and no one accepts what is a direct challenge to their position. I understand that y'all had a pretty wild ride here a few months ago, and now it's calmed down and peaceful, but it seems to me that understanding, expansion and elevation of consciousness cannot occur in a venue like this without dialog.

And, conversely, when they don't stand in silence, only a few Nexus defenders bother to stand up.

Sun toon

I am not sure if you have read the beging page of the thread. But I agree with the title. I have appologiesed for that. Maybe it should have been Is Avalon becoming the Nexus Site? or something of that sort. The reason "the Nexus Brothers" don't reply to anything such as this is because they say "trustme I know and that is the end of story.It seemed as if they didn't like the questions???????? I would know they haven't anwsered.

There are times when I think I might try to defend a position, but then I wonder if it is really worth the time and effort to put together a well reasoned argument with supporting links. Will it really change anybody's mind? How much does that matter to me? So rather than argue each time I see a post that I don't agree with, I look for times when I can provide information that I feel is sound that will help make murky issues a little bit less so. I also will state a contrarian opinion when I feel the urge, but rarely see much point in arguing such things at length for the reasons I just stated.

The nexus thread ploaces Photos with no corrisponding text and just the website connected. Is that not Spam?????? I just had some concerns regarding the direction the site was taking. a dialogue does not happen through the nexus thread only direct infomation taken from the web and told that "we know keep doing this or that" If this goes through the entire site then it will end up another dead end mill stone. Maybe????Predictions are impossible so I would like to make any even directed to the date 2012.

Malletzky

03-13-2009, 10:20 AM

Many of us here preach LOVE and even have their signature with the word LOVE!!!

But is this love unconditional? I wouldn't say so! This is why we all react as we react!

http://projectavalon.org/forum/showpost.php?p=119796&postcount=1223

:wub2:
malletzky

mudra

03-13-2009, 02:21 PM

Jnana,

These are words from a very wise man.
I bow in respect for you.
Defending a position or challenging another
to defend his can easily lead to the " I am right
and you are wrong mechanism " .
Humility should always be present in a debate and
the realization that self importance is a relative
thing .
Does the conversation leads to more space for each party
or is it reducing one into a tiny spot.
Does space expand or does it contract ?
Freedom and wisdom I feel are to be found along these lines.

Kindness
mudra

sun-toon´

03-13-2009, 02:21 PM

There are times when I think I might try to defend a position, but then I wonder if it is really worth the time and effort to put together a well reasoned argument with supporting links. Will it really change anybody's mind? How much does that matter to me? So rather than argue each time I see a post that I don't agree with, I look for times when I can provide information that I feel is sound that will help make murky issues a little bit less so. I also will state a contrarian opinion when I feel the urge, but rarely see much point in arguing such things at length for the reasons I just stated.

Well this sounds apathetic to me, though I don't mean that in a negative way, just that you obviously have more important things to do than spend your time here in intellectual debate over intuitively conceived topics. I rather enjoy it, not that you don't make a decent case for why it's mostly a waste of time. I find that, when it's not a waste of time, it can be a quite valuable tool for stimulating the expansion of my personal paradigm.

Usually, I find this comes more from finding ways to express and clarify my own set of axioms....and that's my point above. There's nothing to be gained, either for the holder of an idea, or their audience, by dropping in an unsubstantiated opinion and leaving it there for their buddies to say "yeah, so cool...me too", while ignoring those who dare to question it. It's non- productive, not expansive, and might as well be church dogma AFAIC. I'm not even talking about the situations involving people who constantly require scientific proof of intuitive faculties...though there are ways to deal with them as well.

Sun toon
I am not sure if you have read the beging page of the thread. But I agree with the title. I have appologiesed for that. Maybe it should have been Is Avalon becoming the Nexus Site? or something of that sort. The reason "the Nexus Brothers" don't reply to anything such as this is because they say "trustme I know and that is the end of story.It seemed as if they didn't like the questions???????? I would know they haven't anwsered.

Yeah, I read the first page, see your re-evaluation of the title, and all. I don't think the provocativeness of the title was a problem, but non-responses and "trust me" attitudes are. In fact, I might go further. The fact that you dropped a verbal and ideological bomb on the Nexus group, and (mostly) they didn't bother to come here and set your ass straight in a major way, makes me question the value of all that meditation in the first place. IMO, this planet needs an major activation of spiritual warriors. I'm not talking about hate and killing, but we're in a struggle for the very survival of the human species and the planet it inhabits. If that's not enough to fire us up...in whatever direction we believe will help, we deserve whatever we're manifesting next by default.

If a large group of people is being encouraged (or seduced) into directing energy on a global scale, it seems to me that all aspects of such alchemy need to be transparent. "Trust me" does not fly in this instance, when IMO all religions in the world are already a part of process of siphoning human energy into...wherever it goes.

This is being discussed in Czymra's syphoning thread (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11303) but it applies here as well. If there are questions as to the exact nature of what's going on behind a process which has as it's intention the goal of utilizing a million people's energy, questions need answered...NOW, and not played off with "all will be revealed in time".

Lorien

03-13-2009, 03:05 PM

Czymra

03-13-2009, 03:33 PM

sun-toon´

03-13-2009, 04:23 PM

From what I have seen over the years from every group or individual I have encountered, they are not allowed to directly give us the answers outright.
If we were to be handed everything on a silver platter would we really understand it at it's most intimate level or would we take it for granted like most everything else in life?
Part of growing and advancing as a spiritual being is discovering these truths for yourself. After all we are merely travelers. They may show us the path of least resistance, but they cannot tell us what roadblocks lie ahead or where exactly that path will lead us.

I have a theory about this. I think that if someone could condense every useful piece of information we might need to navigate the universe down to a couple of paragraphs...or say, a pamphlet, and pass that out to every person on the planet, 90% would be thrown into the next trash bin. 90% of the rest would be taken home, misunderstood and either thrown away or filed in a book, and that last 1% would at least try to figure it out, with maybe 1% of them finding clarity of the vision it contained. Therefore, I have no patience with being told we're not ready for this or that. Anyone who's not ready will not even see it. So lay it on the table and we'll decide. It's not understanding that is the difficult part of the process, it's the integration of that understanding which takes all the time and energy...and you're right, there's no way around that.

Also, this is not an excuse for the Nexus (non)organizers to withhold their intent as to the precise nature of the alchemy involved. Every person who participates is involved in a magical process, as an equal, and needs all information relevant to that task. If not, I suggest sticking with catholic mass...which might be safer.

Malletzky

03-13-2009, 08:08 PM

Yes, I have to learn and understand things for myself. That doesn't mean that a certain someone has to keep any secret. If s/he speaks the words and I'm not ready, I simply won't understand...

Czymra, my friend, please be asured that this is the right way...Why may you ask?

Well, I've had the same experience 3-4 years ago. The person who guided me thru the whole process did the same thing as Astrwalwalker now...He didn't revealed all his knowledge at once.

He would only gave me a hint or two, which obviously made me curious
and I started my researches. Months and years now of research.

The most important thing is, he also said that if he only tell me all that he knew, the amount of lost energy would not do good for me, but will also hurt him too. For any reason that I still do not understand...

After all, I am very, very thankfull he did as he did. I wouldn't be here without him and his correct guidance.

And obviously, I have reached his level now and have even gone beyond. This is something that he already confirmed.

So I understand your thurst for knowledge, but be patient...it is worth of...

with :wub2:
malletzky

Jnana

03-14-2009, 08:19 AM

sun-toon wrote:
Well this sounds apathetic to me, though I don't mean that in a negative way, just that you obviously have more important things to do than spend your time here in intellectual debate over intuitively conceived topics.

Perhaps it sounds apathetic, and I can see how it could be taken that way, but it's more a matter of not wanting to do this: :wall:
I could try to explain the importance of electrogravitics to a revolution in science, or the unimportance of the position of our solar system relative to the galactive equator, or why I think particular dates such as Dec 21, 2012 don't matter, but the heart of the matter is not such things. The heart is.

At the moment it is more important for me to walk the path I've been led to than to justify my decisions to others. Besides, how do you explain a feeling or an urge? I make up reasons that normal people will accept when I have to, but those aren't the real reasons. I've made some major decisions lately based on spiritual guidance (tough to explain, and a bit personal). I have at least one new project I need to get busy on (setting up a local CSETI group). So, yes, I choose to direct my efforts where I think they will do the most good, for reasons I barely understand myself! In fact, there's not much reasoning, in the intellectual sense, to it.

Enjoy your debate. I hope it gets you where you need to go.

sun-toon´

03-14-2009, 02:06 PM

Perhaps it sounds apathetic, and I can see how it could be taken that way, but it's more a matter of not wanting to do this: :wall:

I have at least one new project I need to get busy on (setting up a local CSETI group). So, yes, I choose to direct my efforts where I think they will do the most good, for reasons I barely understand myself! In fact, there's not much reasoning, in the intellectual sense, to it.

Enjoy your debate. I hope it gets you where you need to go.

Seriously...I didn't mean it in a negative way, though it's cool that you explained because it verified what I was intuiting.

I should clarify...it's not exactly debate that I'm looking for, though it seems that's what people think. If, instead of debate, instead of people trying to be more right or sell an opinion (and I know I'm perceived like this, but it's not what I'm doing), if we're really searching for answers through both common ground and differences of perception, this type of venue is a very good means of expanding parameters. It's also a great way to enlarge the size of our neighborhoods, because the farther we reach, the less likely we are to find like minded people in our physical realms.

Anyway, all the best to your project. Disclosure is one more matrix busting tool that simply has to happen if we're ever going to make the evolutionary leap that's in front of us.

KathyT

03-14-2009, 08:30 PM

Hi All,

As I start this thread I realize I will receive a lot of flack, but it keeps coming back to so I feel I should say what I have to say. I would also like to state before hand, that agree with world meditation and a lot of the information provided under the nexus headings.

Firstly: There is a small group who joined one after the other, who, under what i can see only have ever contributed under the nexus headings. (in no order of importance, just incase people take this to heart) Alchemkey, Astralwalker, Startreka, Phiedpiper, Perseide, Phireflye and Galaxy girl. This gives me an uneasy feeling as to the intention of people coming on to this site and directing their own personal agenda. Why not just come out at the beginning and make it clear what you wanted to drive through the site?

Some of the original authors were not given credit for their work that was then taken and placed on the thread as new info for the world. This I feel is unfair to people who have taken huge parts of their lives to compile.

There have been threads previously questioning similarly to what I am saying. i.e. The new age movement being used as a puppet and Avalon and its connection to the church of signtologie (excuse spelling).

As I say I agree with a lot of the information and was delighted by the original thread. I have raised my reservations on the world meditation as the grid is controlled by the PTB under the guise of the church and official building.

Has Avalon been hijacked under the nexus disguise? Lawlessline, you have got a good point here. That idea occurred to me weeks ago.

I see an exact parallel of world meditation to long standing church memberships doing worship and prayer every Sunday (or Saturday) morning. Throughout the ages, there have been millions and millions of people, good hearted people, praying and wishing to whatever higher enlightenment of their choice (God, Buddha, Allah). How is meditation any different? I don’t think it is.

The nexus thread places Photos with no corresponding text and just the website connected. Is that not Spam??????

What much of it is NOT, is it’s NOT original work, and it’s NOT verifiable research. Plagiarism also comes to my mind.

The question is, why doesn’t he promote his stuff on his own website or develop his own forum?

Czymra

03-14-2009, 09:33 PM

Yes, I figured some time ago and what happens only confirms that language is absolutely useless for communication.
It's rather a tool to surface one's own inner truth. It sounds harsh... but many a time I think that someone is listening is just reason enough to make the process urgent enough for it to happen.

Sure, sometimes true communication happens.

Zeddo

03-15-2009, 03:55 AM

Is there ANY ORIGINAL work on this forum? Any original pictures? Original Avatars? If you are going to go down that road you are going to have to include everyone who posts a picture they did not take or make.... or writes ideas gleaned from others work.

The work here I would say falls under the fair use act. Should we ask everyone to open their own website or forum because we do not approve of what they are writing/showing? Obviously the owners of the forum are allowing it and promoting it on their other website.

My question is why do people (generic) care so much who posts what?

yes, my pictures,poems and avatar are all my own work.

AussieG

03-15-2009, 06:52 AM

In light of the latest Camelot post.

Is the message getting through?

TO ALL OUR WONDERFUL MEMBERS and THE PUBLIC
WHO READ HERE ..

While I have direct access to Dr Dan and Dr Marcia,
I will not disturb them at this crucial time.

Dan has told me in the past that ANY INFORMATION regarding the
safety and well being of the denizens of this beautiful planet,
no matter how earthshaking, he will stand on his HONOR and
let us KNOW .

If you have seen the recent image of Dan you will understand the
weight of this responsibility.

ROCK STEADY everyone .. STAY CENTERED, and most of all
be aware of the living breathing sentience of our MOTHER EARTH.

We are in unprecedented times, and of course will occasionally
be experiencing bumps, jolts, and heart fluttering moments .

How we think .. so we make the world.

With this in mind ..Prayers and Meditations for the well being of ALL beings
and safe passage for our Mother Earth contribute in the MOST POSITIVE
fashion to the continuum that we live in.

This kind of action is something that EVERYONE CAN DO in the silences of
our souls ..

LOVE IS THE GLUE OF THE UNIVERSE !!

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love to you ALL

Nodstar*

lawlessline

03-15-2009, 10:14 PM

How much ORIGINAL work is on this forum? Original pictures? Original Avatars? Signatures? If you are going to go down that road you are going to have to include everyone who posts a picture they did not take or make.... or writes ideas gleaned from others work.

My question is why do people (generic) care so much who posts what?

Kathleen I think there is alot of personal works some in the nexus thread. I thibnk there is alot of side work that has gone into creating this wave for the nexus idea. So on that I must disagree with you. The ideas on the most part are personal and in little points growing in the thread to be a collective understanding. I think what people feel is that there is no real substance to alot of well phrased and conscisely present images and data. This is a personal view point that has developeed in one space and is the only contribution to the forum. That is singular thinking. Something that I would think that all is very familar with, but in other circumstances.

I do agree with what a meditation can do and will eventual do. Just have a slightly different vision of it. No one should be vexed by this idea. It demonstrates a state of individual thinking arriving at a collective conscious. If we arrive through that medium then we will truely have arrived. To be shepherd into position can only lead down a road that we all know too well. May not be tomorrow but eventual it will turn full circle.
What do you think???? I am just airing my feelings, no offense should be taken.

In light of the latest Camelot post.

Is the message getting through?

TO ALL OUR WONDERFUL MEMBERS and THE PUBLIC
WHO READ HERE ..

Nodstar*

I keep having the feeling that we are actually on the 4th time line and will see the 1st,2nd and 3rd go past our windows like a station from a train. A train that doesn't stop at these stations. If we can arrive at a state of one collective consciousness via the route explained above, then we will pass through to the 5th time line with minor losses as regard to huge castrohpies. I think some form of flee bath will happen but I think the dog would really let the flees know in advance.

So i think it should only concern the people who feel it matters to their lives. But I don't feel it has any effect on the true course that we are really on.

As said before. Only my thoughts open, and free for investigation and scutiny. Any Ideas????