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Dr MAG
03-19-2009, 03:00 PM
Having not posted to the economic thread before, please take a look at what Michel Chossudovsky is saying.
Its subject has been around for a while.
What is important now is how the economies of scale and organization that are going on, basically while Rome burns, are not stopping, but vertically ramping up.

Chossodovsky is director of the Global Research Institute, Quebec, if you want to read further. Good luck.
At this time remember to be your own guru.
What is the definition of a guru?
The one that while all the other chooks run around losing their heads, keeps theirs.
(No offence to the gods and goddesses of chookss btw.)



Preparing for Civil Unrest in America:
Legislation to Establish Internment Camps on US Military Bases

By Professor Michel Chossudovsky


Global Research, March 18, 2009


The Economic and Social Crisis

The financial meltdown has unleashed a latent and emergent social crisis across the United States.

What is at stake is the fraudulent confiscation of lifelong savings and pension funds, the appropriation of tax revenues to finance the trillion dollar "bank bailouts", which ultimately serve to line the pockets of the richest people in America.

This economic crisis is in large part the result of financial manipulation and outright fraud to the detriment of entire populations, to a renewed wave of corporate bankruptcies, mass unemployment and poverty.

The criminalization of the global financial system, characterized by a "Shadow Banking" network has resulted in the centralization of bank power and an unprecedented concentration of private wealth.

Obama's "economic stimulus" package and budget proposals contribute to a further process of concentration and centralization of bank power, the cumulative effects of which will eventually resul in large scale corporate, bankruptcies, a new wave of foreclosures not to mention fiscal collapse and the downfall of State social programs. (For further details see Michel Chossudovsky, America's Fiscal Collapse, Global Research, March 2, 2009).

The cumulative decline of real economic activity backlashes on employment and wages, which in turn leads to a collapse in purchaisng power. The proposed "solution" under the Obama administration contributes to exacerbating rather than alleviating social inequalities and the process of wealth concentration.


The Protest Movement

When people across America, whose lives have been shattered and destroyed, come to realize the true face of the global "free market" system, the legitimacy of the Wall Street, the Federal Reserve and the US administration will be challenged.

A latent protest movement directed against the seat of economic and political power is unfolding.

How this process will occur is hard to predict. All sectors of American society are potentially affected: wage earners, small, medium and even large businesses, farmers, professionals, federal, State and municipal employees, students, teachers, health workers, and unemployed. Protests will initially emerge from these various sectors. There is, however, at this stage, no organized national resistance movement directed against the administration's economic and financial agenda.

Obama's populist rhetoric conceals the true nature of macro-economic policy. Acting on behalf of Wall Street, the administration's economic package, which includes close to a trillion dollar "aid" package for the financial services industry, coupled with massive austerity measures, contributes to precipitating America into a bottomless crisis.

"Orwellian Solution" to the Great Depression: Curbing Civil Unrest

At this particular juncture, there is no economic recovery program in sight. The Washington-Wall Street consensus prevails. There are no policies, no alternatives formulated from within the political and economic system. .

What is the way out? How will the US government face an impending social catastrophe?

The solution is to curb social unrest. The chosen avenue, inherited from the outgoing Bush administration is the reinforcement of the Homeland Security apparatus and the militarization of civilian State institutions.

The outgoing administration has laid the groundwork. Various pieces of "anti-terrorist" legislation (including the Patriot Acts) and presidential directives have been put in place since 2001, largely using the pretext of the "Global War on Terrorism."



Homeland Security's Internment Camps

Directly related to the issue of curbing social unrest, cohesive system of detention camps is also envisaged, under the jurisdiction of the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon.

A bill entitled the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (HR 645) was introduced in the US Congress in January. It calls for the establishment of six national emergency centers in major regions in the US to be located on existing military installations. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

The stated purpose of the "national emergency centers" is to provide "temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster." In actuality, what we are dealing with are FEMA internment camps. HR 645 states that the camps can be used to "meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security."

There has been virtually no press coverage of HR 645.

These "civilian facilities" on US military bases are to be established in cooperation with the US Military. Modeled on Guantanamo, what we are dealing with is the militarization of FEMA internment facilities.

Once a person is arrested and interned in a FEMA camp located on a military base, that person would in all likelihood, under a national emergency, fall under the de facto jurisdiction of the Military: civilian justice and law enforcement including habeas corpus (the right to defend yourself) would no longer apply.

HR 645 bears a direct relationship to the economic crisis and the likelihood of mass protests across America. It constitutes a further move to militarize civilian law enforcement, repealing the Posse Comitatus Act.


In the words of Rep. Ron Paul:

"...the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough... Even though we know that detention facilities are already in place, they now want to legalize the construction of FEMA camps on military installations using the ever popular excuse that the facilities are for the purposes of a national emergency. With the phony debt-based economy getting worse and worse by the day, the possibility of civil unrest is becoming a greater threat to the establishment. One need only look at Iceland, Greece and other nations for what might happen in the United States next." (Daily Paul, September 2008, emphasis added)

The proposed internment camps should be seen in relation to the broader process of militarization of civilian institutions. The construction of internment camps predates the introduction of HR 645 (Establishment of Emergency Centers) in January 2009. There are, according to various (unconfirmed) reports, some 800 FEMA prison camps in different regions of the U.S. Moreover, since the 1980s, the US military has developed "tactics, techniques and procedures" to suppress civilian dissent, to be used in the eventuality of mass protests (United States Army Field Manual 19-15 under Operation Garden Plot, entitled "Civil Disturbances" was issued in 1985)

In early 2006, tax revenues were allocated to building modern internment camp facilities. In January 2006, Kellogg Brown and Roots, which at the time was a subsidiary of Halliburton, received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE):

"The contract, which is effective immediately [January 2006], provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs...

The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. (KBR, 24 January 2006, emphasis added)

The stated objectives of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) are to:

"protect national security and uphold public safety by targeting criminal networks and terrorist organizations that seek to exploit vulnerabilities in our immigration system, in our financial networks, along our border, at federal facilities and elsewhere in order to do harm to the United States. The end result is a safer, more secure America" (ICE homepage)

The US media is mum on the issue of the internment camps on US soil. While casually acknowledging the multimillion dollar contract granted to Halliburton's subsidiary, the news reports largely focused their attention on possible "cost overruns" (similar to those which occurred with KBR in Iraq).

What is the political intent and purpose of these camps? The potential use of these internment facilities to detain American citizens under a martial law situation are not an object of media debate or discussion.


Combat Units Assigned to the Homeland

In the last months of the Bush administration, prior to the November 2008 presidential elections, the Department of Defense ordered the recall of the 3rd Infantry's 1st Brigade Combat Team from Iraq. The relocation of a combat unit from the war theater to domestic front is an integral part of the Homeland Security agenda. The BCT was assigned to assist in law enforcement activities within the US.

The BCT combat unit was attached to US Army North, the Army's component of US Northern Command (USNORTHCOM). The 1st BCT and other combat units would be called upon to perform specific military functions in the case of civil unrest:

The 1st BCT's soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

(See Gina Cavallaro, Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1, Army Times, September 8, 2008).

Under the proposed withdrawal of US forces from Iraq under the Obama administration, one expects that other combat units will be brought home from the war theater and reassigned in the United States.

The evolving national security scenario is characterized by a mesh of civilian and military institutions:

-Army combat units working with civilian law enforcement, with the stated mission to curb "social unrest".

- the establishment of new internment camps under civilian jurisdiction located on US military facilities.

The FEMA internment camps are part of the Continuity of Government (COG), which would be put in place in the case of martial law.

The internment camps are intended to "protect the government" against its citizens, by locking up protesters as well as political activists who might challenge the legitimacy of the Administration's national security, economic or military agenda.


Spying on Americans: The Big Brother Data Bank

Related to the issue of internment and mass protests, how will data on American citizens be collected?

How will individuals across America be categorized?

What are the criteria of the Department of Homeland Security?

In a 2004 report of the Homeland Security Council entitled Planning Scenarios, pertaining to the defense of the Homeland, the following categories of potential "conspirators" were identified:

"foreign [Islamic] terrorists" ,

"domestic radical groups", [antiwar and civil rights groups]

"state sponsored adversaries" ["rogue states", "unstable nations"]

"disgruntled employees" [labor and union activists].

In June of last year, the Bush administration issued a National Security Presidential Directive (NSPD 59- HSPD 24) entitled Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security (For Further details see Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research, June 2008)
Adopted without public debate or Congressional approval, its relevant procedures are far-reaching. They are related to the issue of civil unrest. They are also part of the logic behind the establishment of FEMA internment camps under HR 645.

NSPD 59 (Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security) goes far beyond the narrow issue of biometric identification, it recommends the collection and storage of "associated biographic" information, meaning information on the private lives of US citizens, in minute detail, all of which will be "accomplished within the law":

"The contextual data that accompanies biometric data includes information on date and place of birth, citizenship, current address and address history, current employment and employment history, current phone numbers and phone number history, use of government services and tax filings. Other contextual data may include bank account and credit card histories, plus criminal database records on a local, state and federal level. The database also could include legal judgments or other public records documenting involvement in legal disputes, child custody records and marriage or divorce records."(See Jerome Corsi, June 2008)

The directive uses 9/11 and the "Global War on Terrorism" as an all encompassing justification to wage a witch hunt against dissenting citizens, establishing at the same time an atmosphere of fear and intimidation across the land.

It also calls for the integration of various data banks as well as inter-agency cooperation in the sharing of information, with a view to eventually centralizing the information on American citizens.

In a carefully worded text, NSPD 59 "establishes a framework" to enable the Federal government and its various police and intelligence agencies to:

"use mutually compatible methods and procedures in the collection, storage, use, analysis, and sharing of biometric and associated biographic and contextual information of individuals in a lawful and appropriate manner, while respecting their information privacy and other legal rights under United States law."

The NSPD 59 Directive recommends: "actions and associated timelines for enhancing the existing terrorist-oriented identification and screening processes by expanding the use of biometrics".

The procedures under NSPD 59 are consistent with an earlier June 2005 decision which consisted increating a "domestic spy service", under the auspices of the FBI. (For further details see Michel Chossudovsky, Bush Administration creates "Secret State Police", June 30, 2005)

Working hand in glove with Homeland Security (DHS), the proposed "domestic intelligence department" would combine FBI counterterrorism, intelligence and espionage operations into a single service.

The new department operating under the auspices of the FBI would have the authority to "seize the property of people deemed to be helping the spread of WMD": They would be able to "spy on people in America suspected of terrorism or having critical intelligence information, even if they are not suspected of committing a crime." (NBC Tonight, 29 June 2005).http://projectavalon.net/forum/images/icons/icon13.gif

URL of this article:
www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12793 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12793)

orthodoxymoron
03-19-2009, 07:38 PM
What I see taking shape reminds me of someone being robbed at gunpoint...protesting...and being shot. How about taking all of the 'security' money and cleaning up the corruption? Then the internment camps will not be necessary. By the way...why are our borders and ports still not secure? Why is the Constitution still being subverted? Why are we being robbed? Are these not security concerns? What is being done to restore law and order...from the bottom to the very top? The rise of the Third Reich should be looked at very carefully. The whole Nazi phenomenon may contain very important lessons for us today.

Humble Janitor
03-19-2009, 08:32 PM
The best way to "prepare" is to live well.

STOP stirring up fear!

waitinginthewings
03-20-2009, 02:58 AM
The best way to "prepare" is to live well.

STOP stirring up fear!

Humble Janitor: With all due respect to you, You beat the "fear" word to death. There is a big difference between being afraid, which renders a person useless, to being informed about whats going on, so that one may best prepare oneself to cope with things, Also sharing that info with others, in order that they may also be informed. This is not fear mongering, this is caring enough to spread the info so that others are not taken by surprise.

If for example, your neighbours knew about a toxic chemical spill that happened in your area, & they knocked on your door to tell you about it, so that you could take the necessary precautions., would you see that as fear mongering?

We all have to be watching out for each other now.

avyaktam
03-20-2009, 03:16 AM
Second that in the wings.

Antonia
03-20-2009, 04:02 AM
I'm with you here Dr MAG... I've been looking at this for quite some time and got very fearful and drawn by the energies of this around the time Naomi Wolf released her 20 minut "GIve me Liberty " video last october.... since then I have seen a change in vibrations round the planet and I have been made aware of the posabilities of genuinly changing or at least lessoning the negitive effects of our future possibilites through Light work and intent... The 100 monkey syndrome or if your in to the more etherial stuff on this site the Nexus project is a good example of little people taking matters in to thier own hands and working at a more positive outcome..
this doesn't mean to forget about this alarmingly vile FEMA camp final solution tactics. I'm very conscious of it and keep a check on the latest information comming out but I try and keep focused on events taking a different turn... There are a lot of military personel who are aware of this too and will refuse to act as SS gestapo if and when the time comes, but sadley not enough yet... I keep visualising the US miltary laying down its arms or turning to protect the people and pointing their guns at the ones giving the orders... a sort of resistance revolution.... seems very unlikely but I keep putting the thought out there... hoping the image will grow and get lodged in to the mass subconscious of the planet.... it always starts with one!

burgundia
03-20-2009, 09:03 AM
Second that in the wings.

Me too.

Dr MAG
03-20-2009, 05:53 PM
I'm with you here Dr MAG... I've been looking at this for quite some time and got very fearful and drawn by the energies of this around the time Naomi Wolf released her 20 minut "GIve me Liberty " video last october.... since then I have seen a change in vibrations round the planet and I have been made aware of the posabilities of genuinly changing or at least lessoning the negitive effects of our future possibilites through Light work and intent... The 100 monkey syndrome or if your in to the more etherial stuff on this site the Nexus project is a good example of little people taking matters in to thier own hands and working at a more positive outcome..
this doesn't mean to forget about this alarmingly vile FEMA camp final solution tactics. I'm very conscious of it and keep a check on the latest information comming out but I try and keep focused on events taking a different turn... There are a lot of military personel who are aware of this too and will refuse to act as SS gestapo if and when the time comes, but sadley not enough yet... I keep visualising the US miltary laying down its arms or turning to protect the people and pointing their guns at the ones giving the orders... a sort of resistance revolution.... seems very unlikely but I keep putting the thought out there... hoping the image will grow and get lodged in to the mass subconscious of the planet.... it always starts with one!


Thanks to all those who responded to this thread:

The start to this thread was not meant to end with all doom.
But none of us can afford not to keep on waking up. I stand by the adage "the only thing to fear is ignorance" and there are some critical things to be aware of, things that may save your life or the lives of those you most care for.

In relation to the many points Prof Chussodovsky brings up in his article at the start of the thread, I cannot give answers to the bailout or how to solve the many ills of the “free market” sleight of tongue many countries were bullied to buy and were led by the nose to accept.


AN ENTERTANMENT MATRIX

When Alvin Toffler published The Third Wave in 1991, there were warning bells. He stated that into the next millennium America would continue to be the No 1 world power, no questions asked, one of the main reasons being because the world loves American entertainment, Disney, Mickey and Hollywood! (And they do, yes!) He relished the fact the world could not draw their gaze away from the screens and the dreams that money, style and image could buy, and so entrained, the world would allow America to remain at centre stage as world military, superhero superstar, no matter what it did. Perhaps that image doesn’t feel so good now. It’s like as you were watching movies the thieves stole everything from the house. Global mesmerism, hypnotism; consensual hallucination; countries and nations fed into the siphon of images and brainwiping like kids into MacDonalds. The point is one of the major wars of the world has not been fought with guns but with psychology. Call it psyops, psychotronics, or social science.


PERSONAL DEFENSE SHIELD

So for the individual to win this war: For starters, he or she has to build a shield. Anticipate the psychology being played out in this theatre of war, and to be clear it infects all public space. That is, don’t be sucked in by images and their commands to accept them as being real. This is one of the first personal defences to protect you (your mind: mental health):
The next defense is your physical health (no more garbage food; taking care of what you put into your body).

What you need for both of these, and to be armed, is education and awareness. That’s why this forum is important as it feeds back into George Green’s original idea for a Ground Crew mindset as the going gets tough.


SYNOPSIS: INTERNMENT CAMPS FOR "SECURITY"? NO!

So what do we know? That Homeland Security's Internment Camps are real on the soil of the US, that their stated purpose as "national emergency centers" to provide "temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster" may be a modified explanation.

We know pretty well that Combat Units relocated from the war theatre to domestic front are an integral part of the Homeland Security in the case of martial law, and the internment camps are intended to "protect the government” by locking up protesters as well as political activists and other disgruntleds who might challenge the legitimacy of the Administration's national security, economic or military agenda.

That direction is augmented by HR 1585, 11 May 2007: ) DETERMINATION OF REQUIREMENTS---- “The Secretary of Defense shall determine the military-unique capabilities needed to be provided by the Department of Defense to support civil authorities in an incident of national significance or a catastrophic incident.”


A VITAL ISSUE: MASS VACCINATIONS
In another 2007 document, (yes, it seems a long time ago now), Lori Price pointed out the Bush administration issued a directive which “establishes a National Strategy for Public Health and Medical Preparedness (Strategy), which builds upon principles set forth in Biodefense for the 21st Century (April 2004) and will transform our national approach to protecting the health of the American…” Really?

Now this is where we really get into the business of not just personal defense shield No 1: my mind/mental health; it also encompasses my personal defense shield No. 2: my physical health. If they can wear down your assets, that is one thing, but to take away your mind and your body what are you left with? (I know some angels will pipe up, your soul/spirit, yet, some form of religiosity will oil the wheels for the injectables. Dr Rebecca Carley states that missionaries going into Africa are taking Bibles and vaccinations; in the old days of swaggering explorers, it was Bibles and gin. She also notes that as vaccinations increase so does AIDS, and there is a correlation.)

No. 1 is do not accept vaccinations. Just say “NO”, no thanks, no, as you (or your loved one/s) are invited to be ushered into the protection/security of the FEMA camps, should it, maybe suddenly, come.

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As far back as 2002 there were government papers relating to the mass delivery of smallpox vaccinations should an outbreak occur due to a terrorist attack. This was is the era of Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass fabrication (oh yes, I forgot “destruction”).
Since those days, and knowing how deep the military-entertainment-government ideology package is, those vaccinations are more than likely been prepared by an attack closer to home.

The Fed plan details how states can inoculate up to one million people in 10 days after confirming only a single smallpox infection in the entire nation. Dr. Len Horowitz, a healthcare researcher, noted the possibility of the Bush Administration using a biological attack to further an agenda of suppressing civil liberties.

"This is standard Machiavellian theory in practice," said Horowitz. "These political and public health problems are created to effect outcomes that have been prepared for in advance and are consistent with economic, political and ideological orientations consistent with population control, better known as genocide. In summary, it is managed chaos and very deadly."

The plan specified 75 million doses of the vaccine in the U.S. stockpile are to be delivered in one day and 280 million doses within one week.
In a theatre of imagining in advance, The Defense Department's "Implementation Plan for Pandemic Influenza," was posted on a Pentagon website, laying out guidelines and planning assumptions for US military services and combatant commands. Possible scenarios included US troops being called in to put down riots, guard pharmaceutical plants and shipments, and help restrict the movement of people inside the country and across its borders. The military was also to assist civil authorities in "isolating and/or quarantining groups of people in order to minimize [foment] the spread of disease during an influenza pandemic."

With all those stockpiled injections, once they start, they will be able to whip through millions of people rapidly, orderly, through camps and stations. However…

Something to consider, a subject that Dr Rebecca Carley MD has investigated for more than a decade. She abandoned mainstream medicine after her own child was brain damaged from inoculations. Of her research, as she states: “Vaccines let me into a black hole that seemed to have no end”. Since then, she has written definitive papers explaining the mechanism whereby inoculations with disease are causing VIDS (Vaccine Induced Diseases), from AIDS to motor neurone diseases and autoimmune system reactions like allergic reactions and epidemics of allergies in children She calls “Inoculations: the True Weapons of Mass Destruction” (website: www.drcarley.com (http://www.drcarley.com)).

Dr Nancy Banks a gynecologist and obstretician’s specialty is STDs (sexually transmitted diseases). Her wake up came when she and her team heard AIDs was a growing problem among women. She studied the problem in Africa and came to realize that AIDS was not a mistake but a strategy: people were deliberately being poisoned by toxins put into the environment, from the pharmaceutical industry and by the agricultural industry as well.

The toxins poison immune systems and make it look like a person has an infection but it is toxins in the immune system causing the symptoms; it may look like a virus but it is your body trying to get rid of these toxins.

From fluoride and aspartame being released into food supplies, to chemicals and plastics in foods; but it is the injections of viruses that are leading to all sorts of diseases leading to immune diseases, genetic problems, cancer according to these two doctors. It is the injections and the mass vaccinations we should be on guard against now.

These women are whistleblowers on the medical profession; MD trained and have worked inside the system. They have irrefutable proofs that vaccines are full of poisons that will compromise your nervous system, your immune system, your hormonal and chemical balance. Compromise your genetics, and render you weak, vulnerable and unable to resist.

The same powers that manufacture these drugs are the same sithian overlords of your worst nightmares.


WHAT TO DO?
The present scenario painted by Dr Carley is that once people enter the internment camps, they will be vaccinated. And therein will be the beginning of their demise.
If it comes your way, candies and vaccinations (even without the candy) DON'T FALL FOR IT!

Protect your greatest assets, your personal health, mind and body —yourself, and those you love and protect.

Follow all the good advice to eat clean and healthy food, no GM modified anything, read the labels on all the products, buy a book that tells you what the additives are and what they mean. Talk to your local groups about what things are toxic and what are not. Remember most food on your supermarket shelves is devitalized and is bringing down your immunity, peg by peg.

Grow some veges, buy organic (natural), squeeze your own juices, walk, get out in nature, feel what its like to breathe without a weight on your chest. Talk to others;
Have a contingency plan; or create one if you haven't already; at least have one place you can go to upcountry, if not arrange how you can; don’t spend all your time fretting over UFOs, abductions, Nibiru or reptiles; get your head out of the TV utterly; all this of itself will have the effect of raising your immune system levels and you will feel a lot better about life.

Remember the consensual hallucination like a huge haptic blanket hangs over the skies, you do not need a planned invasion to realize that— the invasion has happened already; you were just asleep when it happened!

So now is the long (but short too) process if awakening.

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THE "HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN"

(TheDailyNewscaster.com)

February 11th, 2009, Martial Law

By: D. H. Williams @ 10:41 PM - EST
(on looking back over that thread, I saw it was a despatch that apparently went to Alex Jones first, it you want to follow up the article source)

An Indiana county municipal official in the vicinity of Chicago reveals the contents of his meetings with FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security. The initial requests seem reasonable enough when FEMA asks the county officials to prepare a Hazard Mitigation Plan to deal with flooding, fires, high winds and tornadoes.

But as the required meetings and calls with FEMA and DHS continue over a two year period their request become more unusual, raising suspicions of county officials

“We want to know every important thing in this county. We want to know where police departments are. Where weapons are stored. Hazardous material. Where can we land a helicopter. Where are the airports. How big a plane can you land at the airport. Where are all the bridges. Where are all the power stations. Where are all the generating stations. Where are all the substations. They literally wanted to know where everything was. I’m sitting there thinking man if there was ever martial law. This kind of information is exactly the kind of stuff they are going to want. We’re just laying it all out for them right there.”

During the legally mandated meetings held with FEMA and DHS different disaster scenarios were revealed to county officials:

* In late December 2008 municipal officials were invited to Indianapolis for a briefing on the state of Indiana. There were told if industry were to collapse for example GM going bankrupt resulting in mass unemployment a depression would soon follow and municipalities could expect to loose 40% of their funds.
* Every county in the nation would be required to prepare a Hazard Mitigation Plan.
* The county should prepare a plan to vaccinate the entire population within 48 hours and practice the plan several times.
* FEMA inquired to where mass graves could be placed in the county and would they accept bodies from elsewhere.
* The sheriff’s department via the state sheriff association was told that no .223 ammunition rounds would be available as the military would be purchasing all stocks.
* The county was asked to make plans for “hardening” of police and fire stations, putting in hardened bunker type buildings around town.
* The county was asked to make plans for the possibility of up to 400,000 refugees from Chicago.


SO HOW DOES THE READER RESPOND?

Here is one response to that article:

“There will be riots and for good reason. We are just finding out the size of the theft of America's riches and prestige by the elites in the Republican and corporate world, but more will be revealed…America should have risen up in 2000 after Scalia voted to appoint Bush president against the facts. Liberty was taken then and Bush since that day launched the biggest heist of America's riches and opportunities ever. This is not going to be a depression, it's going to be a theft.

No wonder they're preparing for millions of angry Americans whose nation was stolen right out in front of them. All this fear and sleight of hand that was the war on terror was nothing more than a move to reduce our freedoms and take that which was a free America from us. The president still has the power to arrest any American, hold him in a secret place and keep him from his attorney without charging him … indefinitely. …
This is an incredibly dangerous and nasty time in American history; in fact, this is perhaps the end of American history as we know it.

Be safe, be free and use the power of your voice and pen now by contacting your lawmakers and the White House before we are forced to turn to violent overthrow of government. There is no reason, excuse or time in our history when it's necessary to halt habeus corpus and our other freedoms. They remain out of reach because the powers that be, including Obama, decide to keep us from being free.”


CONCLUSION

So here comes another personal defense initiative:
Will you meekly accept the rounding up if, and when it comes, carrying your Barble?
Will you rise up with arms and fight to the death?
They are hoping for the first but are anticipating the second.

So is there another way?
There can be a collective “No!” “No, thanks, no.”
A wave that spreads across the land to break the mesmeric hold. “No!”
The sign of the servant and slave suddenly standing up straight and no longer being bowed by the ridiculous phantom images crushing the spirit and flashing around like ravenous wraiths inside one’s head (collateral damage of the entertainment war machine).

“No!” I say no to the demons of thought, image and desire.
“No!” I say to the manufactured illusion this country has followed, the great illusion, I am starting to wake up from it, even if I cry tears of sadness and remorse as I do!
I am free. This is what the story was always about, not slavery.

[I]FREEDOM!


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Personal responses to the thread:

Orthodoxymoron— Thanks; We have been watching this development for years as education reinforced by culture has taught us all to be good watchers, passively. Meanwhile the machinery to gather everything and everyone behind the scenes in a silent matrix of technological control has grown exponentially. Call that Nazism; that is only a small sliver of the bigger picture. Hey! Not all dragons are bad! Did you read Eragon?

Katheen— You said: "The best way to prepare is to be AWARE... It is up to us to educate them in a calm, rational and knowledge based way. No Fear!! Bringing forth awareness is NOT stirring up fear." Yes, Thank You. You are so right! Namaskar

Waitinginthewings— Great comment. It’s true. "If one’s your neighbours knew about a toxic chemical spill that happened in your area, & they knocked on your door to tell you about it, so that you could take the necessary precautions, would you see that as fear mongering?" Thank you.

I remember when I travelled 1400 miles to tell my dad I had a vision he would die of cancer within three years if he did not stop smoking cigarettes, I did not have to be close as he was a huge smoker. Needless to say, when I got home, and tried to wake him from his self-imposed immersion into a nicotine sump, he became extremely angry and threatened to throw me out of the house.
Only to die, with great regret he’s done himself in, three years after.

ANTONIA:— Great you have seen “a change in vibrations round the planet and I… keep visualising the US miltary laying down its arms or turning to protect the people and pointing their guns at the ones giving the orders... a sort of resistance revolution.... seems very unlikely but I keep putting the thought out there... hoping the image will grow and get lodged in to the mass subconscious of the planet.... it always starts with one!”
Yes it does! You are an inspiration!

• Intention isn’t enough.
• Gather Awareness;
• Build the Personal Defense Shields—they are just the start!
• Get your Education in order, fast;
• Know that you can say “No!”

Myra
03-20-2009, 08:29 PM
The best way to "prepare" is to live well.

STOP stirring up fear!

The thing is living well will do nothing to help you if they show up at your door to take you to the Camps.

recallone
03-21-2009, 01:12 AM
Excellent offerings, Dr. Mag. Bravo.

I don't know what it's all going to come to, but I'm sure of at least one thing:
I'm a free man. And I'll fight like one, with everything I've got. If I don't get to be here for the shift, it's going to be on MY terms how I go out. NOT THEIRS.

I'm visualizing entire units of fighting men turning against their superiors. I see officers in positions of authority disobeying orders so that they may honor the oath they all took. Protect...against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The enemies of our freedom are the very ones issuing the orders and I believe more soldiers are figuring it out every day. Trained warriors will go AWOL and join the ranks of those who are fighting to stay free. Officers in high positions will sabotage missions or turn on their governments entirely.

And for those who blindly follow their orders...we'll be waiting for them.

orthodoxymoron
03-21-2009, 04:37 AM
I just hope that soldiers and law enforcement personnel are doing their research...and thinking things through very, very carefully. If and when things heat up...there won't be time to do this. They need to be able to recognize an attempted overthrow of the United States of America and the Constitution upon which it is based. Enforcing legitimate laws and keeping the peace is important and necessary. But waging war against the American people must be resisted at all costs...if it ever comes to that...and I hope it never will.

Dantheman62
03-21-2009, 06:39 AM
I think that it's humanly impossible to round up everybody and put them in camps. There's not enough military, police, and anybody else who joins them, to even round up one state! Look at California with around 30 million people in it, and where I live Georgia with around 9 million people. It's just impossible to think they're going to round up everybody.

Now, I think that people who protest and riot and who live in any major cities will be the first to go,if they even have enough manpower to do that!, the ones living out in the country probably won't even be bothered, and some won't even know what's going on. For example where I live now there's some real back woods bubba types that only know the five mile area around their home. LOL!
And that's because it's five miles to the nearest little country church! LOL!

I don't know, it's late and I'm rambling on, just be prepared and be one step ahead of the game! Learn the back country roads and have a plan! Because you know the major highways will be blocked or watched.

Swanny
03-21-2009, 10:24 AM
I cant see them rounding up people for fema camps, word would soon spread that they were killing people so who would then go??

avyaktam
03-21-2009, 10:42 AM
They might not be rounding up, but sending people there under false pretense like food distribution, immune areas against pandemics etc.
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burgundia
03-21-2009, 11:08 AM
They might not be rounding up, but sending people there under false pretense like food distribution, immune areas against pandemics etc.
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The same idea came to my mind.....or the will release a virus or poisonous chemical substance...