Is Alex Jones A Zionist?…Controversy Swirls

[Dominic]

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=245119

I have always had a bad feeling about this loud mouth. You decide.

[Humble Janitor]

Now THIS is garbage that shouldn't be posted here.

Since when did having a Jewish wife make someone a Zionist? That's just blatant anti-semitism and whoever took the time to create that page/post has too much time on their hands.

We must always remember that just because someone is Jewish, it does not make them a de-facto Zionist.

[Anchor]

Alex Jones is bound to be smeared by TPTB in the most devious ways you can imagine.

[Dominic]

Now THIS is garbage that shouldn't be posted here.

Since when did having a Jewish wife make someone a Zionist? That's just blatant anti-semitism and whoever took the time to create that page/post has too much time on their hands.

We must always remember that just because someone is Jewish, it does not make them a de-facto Zionist.

I could care less about semitism. This man has a agenda and it is hidden under the guise of truth. He is desperately trying to start violence in America.

Talk about what we want not about what we don't want.

He is using the oldest tactic on the truth seekers.

He is always talking about what we don't want period, thus making the unknowing masses manifest it without thought.

Once the intention is set it will manifest. He knows this very well.

[torz]

I have to say I agree with this... I have had a WRONG feeling about ALex Jones for a long time, he makes me feel edgy and I trust my instincts when I feel like that.... it usually means nothing good comes this way....

HE knows....


I could care less about semitism. This man has a agenda and it is hidden under the guise of truth. He is desperately trying to start violence in America.

Talk about what we want not about what we don't want.

He is using the oldest tactic on the truth seekers.

He is always talking about what we don't want period, thus making the unknowing masses manifest it without thought.

Once the intention is set it will manifest. He knows this very well.

[Steve_A]

Hi Dominic,

I don't think it is important if he is or isn't. What we should concentrate on is the information that he is putting out there.

He is no different than any of the other 'whistleblowing, activists'. I wouldn't even say that he is anti-government, he is just against foul play, so if he feels threatened about a one world government, Billberger group, shadow government etc. he shouts out for people to be more aware of what he think is going down. If those people take on board what he says is up to them. His 'job' is done.

People have criticized him for selling his bullhorn and other knick-knacks on his site, but we must understand, once again, it's his preferred way of raising cash.

Nobody pays his bills at home.

Best regards,

Steve






http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=245119

I have always had a bad feeling about this loud mouth. You decide.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

pure garbage

[BROOK]

Hi Dominic,

I don't think it is important if he is or isn't. What we should concentrate on is the information that he is putting out there.

He is no different than any of the other 'whistleblowing, activists'. I wouldn't even say that he is anti-government, he is just against foul play, so if he feels threatened about a one world government, Billberger group, shadow government etc. he shouts out for people to be more aware of what he think is going down. If those people take on board what he says is up to them. His 'job' is done.

People have criticized him for selling his bullhorn and other knick-knacks on his site, but we must understand, once again, it's his preferred way of raising cash.

Nobody pays his bills at home.

Best regards,

Steve

I absolutely agree with you here....the truth will set you free.
If you don't know the truth how can you combat what is happening, or even be prepared:nono:
I'm not his favorite fan, but he does expose the rats, and we need to know who the rats are :mad3:

[777 The Great Work]

Alex Jones is doing what he loves.look at his passion ,its his purpose. The titles are worthless. What is a jew or a zionist but a state of mind. You need pressure to strike a match. :original:

[burgundia]

Now THIS is garbage that shouldn't be posted here.

Since when did having a Jewish wife make someone a Zionist? That's just blatant anti-semitism and whoever took the time to create that page/post has too much time on their hands.

We must always remember that just because someone is Jewish, it does not make them a de-facto Zionist.

Thank God you aren't a moderator here....censorship, censorship....

[avyaktam]

I agree with you here, Steve.
And I don't have the feeling he has double agenda's.
For me he has been an important source of information, especially these last months.
You may prefer the flat style of Alan Watts above his bullhorn style, but that can't be a reason to dismiss the information he is putting out, which is pretty factual as it is. Everybody has the right to express himself in his own unique way, that's the fun of not being clones. This week he described himself as an Archie Bunker type, I liked that.
I don't understand you strong dislike of these people Dominic, they have done lot's of research and usually can back up what they are saying. Are they not esoteric enough or what? At the other hand what you are bringing up here looks more like slander than anything else. I'm sorry.

[Northern Boy]

this was posted on Resne.com

[Dantheman62]

Alex Jones is doing what he loves.look at his passion ,its his purpose. The titles are worthless. What is a jew or a zionist but a state of mind. You need pressure to strike a match. :original:


:original: :thumb_yello:

[orthodoxymoron]

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=245119

I have always had a bad feeling about this loud mouth. You decide.


I've always had a bad feeling about Pravda. There is no Izvestia (news) in Pravda (truth)...and no Pravda in Izvestia...at least during the Cold War. I have mixed feelings about Jones. Here is a quote from the article:

'The bottom line seems to be that, at the very least, Jones is doing, intentionally or otherwise, exactly what the Illuminati want by continually ranting, over and over again, about the control being imposed over the population. While this informs to a degree, the larger issue is of a massive desensitization through endless repetition and ensuing listener psychological frustration which leads to a de facto acceptance of that very control paradigm. Clever stuff. Repeat most anything often enough and people come to accept it and become resigned to it.'

I occasionally listen to Alex, or watch one of his videos. I recently watched 'Road to Tyranny' and 'The Obama Deception'. This is probably a good thing. Being informed by a wide variety of sources is healthy...though sometimes disillusioning. What concerns me is a steady diet of this type of journalism. Bill Cooper, who is one of my favorites presently, was concerned about Jones getting people whipped-up into a frenzy. I am concerned about the people who listen to Alex for four hours every day, and who may stockpile guns, etc, and have a knee-jerk hatred of authority. I'm not sure where the rational middle ground is. I think that exposing oneself to a wide variety of inputs and sources helps to avoid getting into potentially dangerous ruts. I am opposed to the NWO...yet I read the CFR journal 'Foreign Affairs'. I'm currently reading an article entitled 'Spearheading Reform of the World Order'. I would like to make my case for globalism based upon the U.S. Constitution using the writing style of this journal...so as to be able to possibly influence even one elite or reptilian who might see the light...and make a difference. I once contacted the Trilateral Commission with just such an appeal. I suspect that all it did was get me on a list! But one never knows!

[oldpaganfreak]

Alex Jones is doing what he loves.look at his passion ,its his purpose. The titles are worthless. What is a jew or a zionist but a state of mind. You need pressure to strike a match. :original:

why do you choose to use such a small font, 777??
i can't read it.

[777 The Great Work]

why do you choose to use such a small font, 777??
i can't read it.

I apologize OPF

"]Alex Jones is doing what he loves.look at his passion ,its his purpose. The titles are worthless. What is a jew or a zionist but a state of mind. You need pressure to strike a match. Its all a part of the divine plan.[/I] :original:

[deb003]

I'm SO glad Alex is being exposed.

I have listened to his shows and he always diverts any conversation that becomes too involved in the history of Zionism and the connection between the Illuminati and the state of Israel.
He also makes fun of people like David Icke who mention an Alien Agenda.
He is extremely egotistical and spreads allot of fear and separatism.
We want the truth, not people who manipulate it, disinform, and especially censor part of the story.

[777 The Great Work]

I agree,my thought is this.Is the message important or the messenger. My philosophy is the light and not the light bringer. Truth can come from someone who drowns themselves in alchohol, and so can a lie.

[smat]

I personally really like Alex Jones.
He is one of the good guys, and I'm astonished at this thread.

Please could you be more specific instead of silly name calling.
He's been against the N.W.O. for years.

Please explain what you think Zionism means and also why you think he is a Zionist.

You started this thread, now give your reasons.....

Lets see how many FACTS you can come up with to support your claim.

[burgundia]

My attitude towards jones: i do not like his personality too much ( but we all have our likes and dislikes), I appreciate all the info we get through him.

[Myplanet2]

I think Jones has a place in the scheme of things, and works harder than just about anyone to carry out his purpose, which I see as important. Some people can sleep through just about anything. He's like an alarm clock playing through a bull horn.

Someone who does rub me the wrong way is Brother Nathaniel Kapner. I see nothing but blind hate when I read anything from him.

[orthodoxymoron]

Imagine an Alex Jones Bullhorn Alarm Clock! Imagine waking up to "Wake Up! You're not a slave of the New World Order!!!" being shouted at you through the bullhorn! :trumpet: Alex could give these to the elites as Christmas presents! Can you feel the love tonight?

[Dominic]

I see we have quite a few infowarriors out here. I put this thread out because anyone who get this powerful is dangerous. I do not feel that it is in our best interest to be pounded with the low frequency chants that is part of his daily ritual.

Granted he uses the truth as his weapon of choice. But, There is only one truth and it comes from with in and my inner voice tells me he is a front man.

He is so fear based and wants others to remain at his low frequency with him.

If he was not doing the PTB a service he would have been gone long ago.

Rense and Jones are part of the same network I also found ties to ABC news.

Don't be force fed. All of the facts he speaks can be found else where and you can read them and decide for yourself.

I hope I made you all think for yourselves and go inside and feel the truth.

[Myplanet2]

I understand what you are saying, and I appreciate your intent.

And intent is an important point. If I look at Alex Jones, I see a guy who is passionate about pulling aside the curtain so the fake wizard is shown for what he is.

On a higher consciousness level, yes, he is causing a manifestation of the evils he points out to perpetuate, in a way, by focusing attention on them. And people functioning on higher consciousness levels don't really need that.

But what about the people who are not yet up to that level of awareness. They may need a bit more oomph to get them to start investigating some more. That's what I see Alex doing.

I don't see him working for the "other side", but I do see him as solidly immersed in the "sides" game.

We're all here on this planet at this time to do some work in whatever area we need to personally on the broader area of polarity/duality. Graduates of this general lesson will not be found in this game.

So if Alex Jones gets your dander up, then ask yourself what you have encountered which needs some work, and offer him a silent thanks for being the catalyst.

What I try to determine, is whether the person is intending empowerment, or disempowerment. Freedom or slavery.

I see we have quite a few infowarriors out here. I put this thread out because anyone who get this powerful is dangerous. I do not feel that it is in our best interest to be pounded with the low frequency chants that is part of his daily ritual.

Granted he uses the truth as his weapon of choice. But, There is only one truth and it comes from with in and my inner voice tells me he is a front man.

He is so fear based and wants others to remain at his low frequency with him.

If he was not doing the PTB a service he would have been gone long ago.

Rense and Jones are part of the same network I also found ties to ABC news.

Don't be force fed. All of the facts he speaks can be found else where and you can read them and decide for yourself.

I hope I made you all think for yourselves and go inside and feel the truth.

[Humble Janitor]

I could care less about semitism. This man has a agenda and it is hidden under the guise of truth. He is desperately trying to start violence in America.

Talk about what we want not about what we don't want.

He is using the oldest tactic on the truth seekers.

He is always talking about what we don't want period, thus making the unknowing masses manifest it without thought.

Once the intention is set it will manifest. He knows this very well.

Despite what he's said or done, it does NOT justify painting him as a zionist.

[Lorien]

I understand what you are saying, and I appreciate your intent.

And intent is an important point. If I look at Alex Jones, I see a guy who is passionate about pulling aside the curtain so the fake wizard is shown for what he is.

On a higher consciousness level, yes, he is causing a manifestation of the evils he points out to perpetuate, in a way, by focusing attention on them. And people functioning on higher consciousness levels don't really need that.

But what about the people who are not yet up to that level of awareness. They may need a bit more oomph to get them to start investigating some more. That's what I see Alex doing.

I don't see him working for the "other side", but I do see him as solidly immersed in the "sides" game.

We're all here on this planet at this time to do some work in whatever area we need to personally on the broader area of polarity/duality. Graduates of this general lesson will not be found in this game.

So if Alex Jones gets your dander up, then ask yourself what you have encountered which needs some work, and offer him a silent thanks for being the catalyst.

What I try to determine, is whether the person is intending empowerment, or disempowerment. Freedom or slavery.

I couldn't have said it any better.

I too think he is a bit abrasive now and then, but I think that's just his personality. He gets worked up when he sees things going wrong and it comes out filled with frustration.

[Rainchild]

I agree with John Lear when he said: "isreal had nothing to do with 9/11".

[orthodoxymoron]

I agree with John Lear when he said: "isreal had nothing to do with 9/11".

Do you agree with John Lear when he links Mossad to the John Kennedy assassination?

I keep getting the feeling that a lot of the assassinations and terrorism are multi-national in nature...perhaps involving several layers of compartmentalization. Using 9/11 as an example: One group may have ordered the attacks. Another group may have planned the attacks. Another group may have arranged for the simultaneous war games. Another group may have arranged for, and carried out the hijackings. Another group may have arranged for, and piloted(perhaps remotely) whatever actually hit the targets. Another group may have arranged for, and carried out, the controlled demolitions. Another group may have arranged for press coordination and manipulation. While another group may have handled the cover-up. Each of these groups(including the planners-which may have been compartmentalized also) may have had no knowledge of the ultimate cumulative result. All of the above may have involved several different nations...perhaps including the alien nation. Just speculation.

[Dominic]

Alex Jones is telling the truth, HOWEVER, he is working for the Illuminati and is part of the conspiracy against us, by their use of the Fifth Column. Jones, Naomi Wolf, Michael Jones and Ron Paul are working for the Illuminati in very clever ways....and operation. These people at the top are very smart when it comes to tricking the people Its their business. Be careful with these truth prophets. They creating what they want.

[burgundia]

Alex Jones is telling the truth, HOWEVER, he is working for the Illuminati and is part of the conspiracy against us, by their use of the Fifth Column. Jones, Naomi Wolf, Michael Jones and Ron Paul are working for the Illuminati in very clever ways....and operation. These people at the top are very smart when it comes to tricking the people Its their business. Be careful with these truth prophets. They creating what they want.

This is a very important statement. Listen carefully, diversify your sources of information and always be skeptical. With all that is going on, it is getting harder and harder to know where the truth lies and how many different agendas are at play.

[lawlessline]

Maybe one should just watch the wirl wind rather than trying to slay it. He can be very over zealous at times, but that maybe his lack of elloquence. all agendas will fall by the wayside when the time comes, only truth will be left standing for all to see.

Just don't get swept in. Sorry I didn't remember to quote the person here but they said you should feel the walls and be sand beneath your feet. Sounds good to me.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by Dominic: Alex Jones is telling the truth, HOWEVER, he is working for the Illuminati and is part of the conspiracy against us, by their use of the Fifth Column. Jones, Naomi Wolf, Michael Jones and Ron Paul are working for the Illuminati in very clever ways....and operation. These people at the top are very smart when it comes to tricking the people Its their business. Be careful with these truth prophets. They are creating what they want.

Response by Burgundia: This is a very important statement. Listen carefully, diversify your sources of information and always be sceptical. With all that is going on, it is getting harder and harder to know where the truth lies and how many different agendas are at play.


My response: I think that having a very wide variety of sources is the key. Don't get hooked into following one prophet or one group. Also, don't just study one subject. A lot of this stuff covers a lot of seemingly unrelated topics. Take a break as often as you need to...or even stop digging! Constant exposure to conspiracies and alien theories can wear a person down. A lot of the material can be upsetting, disillusioning, angering, frightening, etc, etc. Overall, I'm hoping we can avoid Civil War II, World War III, and Reich IV. I'm thinking that getting informed...without getting mad or scared...will get us through the current mess. I am skeptical that Alex Jones, Naomi Wolf, and Ron Paul are in cahoots with the bad-guys. They could potentially be manipulated, blackmailed, corrupted, etc...but I think these people are doing serious damage to the Old World Disorder Reptilian Theocracy.

[Myplanet2]

This is an excellent time to work to improve ones quality of discernment.

We're sitting smack dab (nod to Chuck Norris) in the middle of the overlapping intersection between paradigms. And I don't mean the mini micro memes within cultures. I mean the Macro paradigm of a universal flavour.

The current dying paradigm has the character of polarization. That's what this has been all about for a very long time.

We're all (every single one of us without exception IMHO) here on classroom earth at this point in time as it is linearly expressed, to resolve the issue of dealing with polarity.

It's understandable that things are stepping up right now, because time is running out at an exponentially accelerating pace, and our host is feeling the effects of the old paradigm enema she has received while suffering the labour pains of the anxious new paradigm already partially birthed. (sorry for the graphics, but....)

It's final exams time on classroom earth, and we're cramming like mad to prepare.

Polarity is about this OR that. The old paradigm is about this OR that. The new paradigm is more about this AND that. It's both. It's compromise. It's cooperation. It's compassion. It's unconditional love. It's understanding without judgement. It's acceptance. It's a lighthearted attitude. It's re-centering from the ego to the heart. From the mind (HMS in James speak) to the heart. From the thinking to the feeling. From "us and them" to simply "us" and ultimately "I".

The idea was to work out all of these things in an orderly manner over enough time that we could proceed comfortably in our progress. But that would have been too small a challenge, so we let it go until the last possible second and now we rush to integrate millenia worth of learning into a few short years while time speeds up towards the point of multi dimensional, non-linear expression as is the norm in the new paradigm.

What remains of our issues in polarity/duality, has the strongest manifestation now, than it's had for some long time. And confusion and doubt can set in because we're steeped in 3D while multi dimension reality is opening up for us on a daily basis. The two realities are completely incongruous. Oil and water.

The Illuminati, and hyper controlling government are impossible where we're headed. Well where some, and hopefully most of us are headed. We don't have to proceed to the next level of play if we're not ready. We can put ourselves "back a year" for failure to practice due diligence while in class in this "go round".

That said, this notion that Alex Jones and Ron Paul are part of the fifth column, secretly working to prolong our enslavement, is simply nonsense. They are simply part of the laxative, as opposed to the midwife. Both are needed, as you can't birth a new baby with a laxative, and I don't think any midwife would like to help birth a (fill in your own graphic).

Krishnamurti said (and correctly, I believe) that "we are the world, and the world is us".

There are no external conflicts. There are only manifestations of internal conflicts. All the evil doers in the world are our teachers right now.

We've hit the snooze button for so long now, that the pace needed to integrate and absorb what we came here to learn is truly daunting.

Of course, we can do it. There is literally nothing we can't do. There is nothing we can't be.

The only place conflict is possible, is within ourselves. And then we project it onto external situations. That's because looking requires some distance. We can't see what exists at the point we occupy. we must either "step" outside of our situation and examine it, or externalize our situation so we can examine it. And of course we can observe others externalizations, but they would simply never manifest for us, if we didn't have that situation as an issue ourselves.

There is no "them" doing anything to "us". There is simply "us" taking on different roles for the benefit of one anothers explorations into how to resolve polarity with love, compassion, non-judgement, and nothing but win-win.

Alex Jones isn't a "them". There is no them.

The more of us that come to grips with that, the smoother the transition.

But somebody has to sound the alarm so all us sleepy heads will notice it's final exam time.




Alex Jones is telling the truth, HOWEVER, he is working for the Illuminati and is part of the conspiracy against us, by their use of the Fifth Column. Jones, Naomi Wolf, Michael Jones and Ron Paul are working for the Illuminati in very clever ways....and operation. These people at the top are very smart when it comes to tricking the people Its their business. Be careful with these truth prophets. They creating what they want.

[JoyAnna]

There is no "them" doing anything to "us". There is simply "us" taking on different roles for the benefit of one anothers explorations into how to resolve polarity with love, compassion, non-judgement, and nothing but win-win.

Alex Jones isn't a "them". There is no them.

The more of us that come to grips with that, the smoother the transition.

But somebody has to sound the alarm so all us sleepy heads will notice it's final exam time.


I really appreciate your careful, insightful response here, Myplanet2. I have a friend who follows Alex Jones with a 'vengeance'. It makes me sad for him because he is so filled with fear and dread he can barely function and even his body is suffering immensely. Unfortunately, this dear person is not able to read well so he cannot research deeply into many different sources. He sees his only task to be the education of everyone he can reach (playing recordings of Jones on buses and other public places). I must love him for his passion and good intentions, and I see my task with him to continually strive to relieve some of his fear by offering, as simply as possible, some of the truth of our oneness that you offered here.

Thank you for your words,
JoyAnna

[Myplanet2]

You're welcome, JoyAnna. Glad to be of service.

It can be very destructive to immerse oneself in the type of stuff Alex Jones has taken it upon himself to expose, unless one has some way of processing ones feelings and thoughts about it. It will stir up issues, which can then cause upset and fear. If you then take a hard look at what it is that you actually are upset about, or fearful of, and come to terms with it while finding a heart based solution, then you've won and we've all won.

To me, it's a good sign when someone becomes mad, or afraid. It means they have the opportunity to address something within themselves which has been presented to them as a sort of lesson required on the road to a multi dimensional existence.

It's a bit of a sequence, while sequences are still applicable. first you encounter something which stirs up a formerly unconfronted issue. Then you need some means to deal with it.

Those of us who have a purpose to aid others on this journey can then follow this sequence, depending on needs. first provide an opportunity to bring an issue to view, then provide a means by which it can be discharged.

Guys like Alex Jones are the "issue bringers". There are hundreds of them, and they are very needed right now. But we have to watch they don't upset people who have no means by which they can deal with the painful emotions. That's where we can offer some help when asked.

I've noticed that even guys like Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, David Icke, Michael Tsarion and on and on, have expanded their focus to now include advice about the multi dimensional nature of this problem and are including some suggestions that personal issues brought to light need to be personally dealt with.

It's all good to me.

I really appreciate your careful, insightful response here, Myplanet2. I have a friend who follows Alex Jones with a 'vengeance'. It makes me sad for him because he is so filled with fear and dread he can barely function and even his body is suffering immensely. Unfortunately, this dear person is not able to read well so he cannot research deeply into many different sources. He sees his only task to be the education of everyone he can reach (playing recordings of Jones on buses and other public places). I must love him for his passion and good intentions, and I see my task with him to continually strive to relieve some of his fear by offering, as simply as possible, some of the truth of our oneness that you offered here.

Thank you for your words,
JoyAnna

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Dominic: Alex Jones is telling the truth, HOWEVER, he is working for the Illuminati and is part of the conspiracy against us, by their use of the Fifth Column. Jones, Naomi Wolf, Michael Jones and Ron Paul are working for the Illuminati in very clever ways....and operation. These people at the top are very smart when it comes to tricking the people Its their business. Be careful with these truth prophets. They are creating what they want.

Ron Paul? Are you serious? Where's your basis for this? I've seen a lot of hokey claims on here but honestly, I'm not sure who/what to believe anymore and that's a good thing. We don't need to believe.

Believe.

Words have a silly way of reminding you of things.

[777 The Great Work]

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[Humble Janitor]

Aha, a secret handshake?

[Dominic]

Pro think video exposing Jones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXfgPYDzoTw&feature=PlayList&p=6AE0BD9DBBD1C91C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=20

Prothink website

http://benjaminhfreedman.blogspot.com/

No truths will be hidden.

Thanks triple 7 for Ron Pauls dirty trick exposure.

Manifest time is now.

[Humble Janitor]

I knew that my intuition was correct about Ron Paul. If I am correct, the folks who idolize Mr.Paul are certainly not much different from those that idolize Mr.Obama.

Still, without Ron Paul, I wouldn't have a clue about libertarian perspectives on the issues.

[Myplanet2]

This is a tad on the absurd side. I looked at the link to the freedman blogspot and right at the top of the page I see this comment:

"Webmaster's notes: For those who are new to Benjamin Freedman please take note that he not only denounced Zionism like some people like to ONLY point out but that he denounced the entire Jew race/religion all together. It is clearly stated in the beginning of the audio that Freedman "is a FORMER Jew, and I mean FORMER Jew.", NOT just a former Zionist. He is clearly stating that this issue isn't completely a "Zionist" problem but yet a Jew problem. Many criminal Jews do not or pretend to not support Israel. This is key to understanding that Zionism is just a branch of the larger problem which is the Jew itself. Very few Jews in history have made this transition and that also has to be made clear when understanding what Freedman is talking about. Chess Champion Bobby Fisher was also one other notable former Jew who spoke against these issues too."

These people are supposed to be credible? This is supposed to discredit Alex Jones?

And a hand shake to "prove" Ron Paul is a "them"?

I heartily recommend a reading or a review of James' description of the "Human Mind Syndrome" on the Camelot sight, because that's where all this nonsense is coming from. The HMS. HMS construct points at HMS construct, which points back, and attention diverts to the soap opera instead of the job at hand.



Pro think video exposing Jones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXfgPYDzoTw&feature=PlayList&p=6AE0BD9DBBD1C91C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=20

Prothink website

http://benjaminhfreedman.blogspot.com/

No truths will be hidden.

Thanks triple 7 for Ron Pauls dirty trick exposure.

Manifest time is now.

[Dominic]

This is a tad on the absurd side. I looked at the link to the freedman blogspot and right at the top of the page I see this comment:

"Webmaster's notes: For those who are new to Benjamin Freedman please take note that he not only denounced Zionism like some people like to ONLY point out but that he denounced the entire Jew race/religion all together. It is clearly stated in the beginning of the audio that Freedman "is a FORMER Jew, and I mean FORMER Jew.", NOT just a former Zionist. He is clearly stating that this issue isn't completely a "Zionist" problem but yet a Jew problem. Many criminal Jews do not or pretend to not support Israel. This is key to understanding that Zionism is just a branch of the larger problem which is the Jew itself. Very few Jews in history have made this transition and that also has to be made clear when understanding what Freedman is talking about. Chess Champion Bobby Fisher was also one other notable former Jew who spoke against these issues too."

These people are supposed to be credible? This is supposed to discredit Alex Jones?

And a hand shake to "prove" Ron Paul is a "them"?

I heartily recommend a reading or a review of James' description of the "Human Mind Syndrome" on the Camelot sight, because that's where all this nonsense is coming from. The HMS. HMS construct points at HMS construct, which points back, and attention diverts to the soap opera instead of the job at hand.

I wanted to expose Jones a long time ago but, I waited till the time was right. He is a lunatic, You only have to listen to him for a couple of minutes and your heart rate will go up. Plus he has millions of unknowing listeners thinking he is the one. He has turned the truth into a cult. I have a very strong intuition on this one and he will be exposed by others too. I do not see nonsense in exposing a problem that some may have missed. I have had a bad feeling about Ron Paul for quite awhile too. All you have to do is ask yourself the questions, You will get reply's.

[Myplanet2]

This whole "so-and-so is bad", and "blah-do-blah is evil" game is so "old school" (old paradigm).

Read James' interview and you will have a hard time staying interested in this.

And if you really want out of that maze, and are into asking yourself questions, ask yourself what it is in YOU that is triggered by Alex Jones, deal with it, and then send him a note of thanks for the opportunity to grow by shedding some baggage.

[dagon]

Hi Dominic,

I don't think it is important if he is or isn't. What we should concentrate on is the information that he is putting out there.

He is no different than any of the other 'whistleblowing, activists'. I wouldn't even say that he is anti-government, he is just against foul play, so if he feels threatened about a one world government, Billberger group, shadow government etc. he shouts out for people to be more aware of what he think is going down. If those people take on board what he says is up to them. His 'job' is done.

People have criticized him for selling his bullhorn and other knick-knacks on his site, but we must understand, once again, it's his preferred way of raising cash.

Nobody pays his bills at home.

Best regards,

Steve
I agree with steve here. and also all of you at the same time. he has brought some interesting facts to the forefront. like most whistleblowers. I admire his rebel spirit. going against the grain. but don't always agree with him. and find him a bit crass. but that's ok to. I welcome all who attempt to bring truth to the situation at hand. its up to the listener to take what is useful and leave the rest. at least he wasnt fired for telling the truth like the folks at fox. or was he? I would be pee'd off to. I say let him rant. I do from time to time. let all information in. let the viewer make his own mind. and don't be persuade by chat room chatter. do your own research.

[orthodoxymoron]

The point about polarities is a very good one. Combining Opposites is a concept I first heard from Shirley Maclaine. I currently like the concept of Positive Response Ability...where one internally wrestles with point / counterpoint...and then formulates a positive response. I would love to win the City States over to my point of view...rather than fighting with them in trench warfare. I actually think we need the cooperation of the City States to save the world and the human race. I want to attract them...rather than repel them. I want to help them solve their problems in a way which moves them toward my point of view. I know this is a very naive dream...but hope springs eternal.

Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and Naomi Wolf are good sources of information...and good examples of people who logically and articulately present their conclusions. However, it is important to listen to the other side(s) as well. I don't aspire to be like any of these people. If I wanted to emulate a public figure...it would probably be JFK...as far as speeches and press conferences are concerned. On one occasion, I was reading a JFK speech out loud...and noticed a pinpoint of white light passing inches from my face...as if it was studying me briefly before vanishing. Ron Paul is very good at working within the system...seemingly without being corrupted by it.

[Dominic]

This whole "so-and-so is bad", and "blah-do-blah is evil" game is so "old school" (old paradigm).

Read James' interview and you will have a hard time staying interested in this.

And if you really want out of that maze, and are into asking yourself questions, ask yourself what it is in YOU that is triggered by Alex Jones, deal with it, and then send him a note of thanks for the opportunity to grow by shedding some baggage.

As a researcher I am surprised by the fact you have not checked out the connection between Israel and the whole western world. They control it all and they are god chosen one's so they can do as they please. They destroy the earth decide who lives or dies control the minds of billions all under the cover of the camera program. If you are talking a evil game here it is and they are the hidden champs. Now, America and the world is in their sights. I think the true perpetrators need to be addressed. If you think I am wrong for identifying a hidden from view global tyrant then excuse me. I feel this force is the greatest threat the world faces. What triggers me about Alex is he never addresses this monster.

I understand about spiritual growth. I am well on my way. This is part of living in 3D Duality. I have read James material. I know that life here is just a game. Some think it is a winners takes all.

[Myplanet2]

As a researcher I am surprised by the fact you have not checked out the connection between Israel and the whole western world. They control it all and they are god chosen one's so they can do as they please. They destroy the earth decide who lives or dies control the minds of billions all under the cover of the camera program. If you are talking a evil game here it is and they are the hidden champs. Now, America and the world is in their sights. I think the true perpetrators need to be addressed. If you think I am wrong for identifying a hidden from view global tyrant then excuse me. I feel this force is the greatest threat the world faces. What triggers me about Alex is he never addresses this monster.

I understand about spiritual growth. I am well on my way. This is part of living in 3D Duality. I have read James material. I know that life here is just a game. Some think it is a winners takes all.

Ok, Dominic. Peace.

I have checked out The zionist and to a lesser extent Israeli angle on this game.

It's just that it doesn't matter to me anymore. I've realized that there is no centre to this onion. You can peel and peel, and never get through all the layers and that's by design. So it doesn't really matter who's been doing what, and for how long, and to whom.

What matters is that more people realize they've been tricked into playing a lose/lose game, and the only way to win is to not play. That is the ONLY way of defeating the PTB. Walk out of the game. You don't have better intelligence. You can't match them with force. They have all the money. They own the rule makers and rule enforcers. If you play with them, they will win.

The only reason this game is still on going, is us. Not them. We need them to mirror our own issues, and so they fulfill their roles until such time as we decide there is no more need for this lesson.

It might not be real to many, but We've had our turn at playing the PTB and the current PTB actors have had opportunity to play our victims.

It's simply not important what any of them are doing, and how any of us are hamming it up as their victims. What's important is that we make good use of these lessons to sort out our issues related to polarity so we can neutralize them and clean the slate in preparation for our graduation up in frequency.

[Lorien]

Originally Posted by Dominic: Alex Jones is telling the truth, HOWEVER, he is working for the Illuminati and is part of the conspiracy against us, by their use of the Fifth Column. Jones, Naomi Wolf, Michael Jones and Ron Paul are working for the Illuminati in very clever ways....and operation. These people at the top are very smart when it comes to tricking the people Its their business. Be careful with these truth prophets. They are creating what they want.

Seriously? Ron Paul? That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. There is absolutely NO PROOF OR BASIS for a statement like that. This man has an impeccable record back to his days as a doctor. He has always stood up for the freedoms of the people and the ideals of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. If he had won the Election we would well on our way to being a better nation, instead of on the verge of mass slavery and poverty.

[Blisstasista]

Alex Jones is doing what he loves.look at his passion ,its his purpose. The titles are worthless. What is a jew or a zionist but a state of mind. You need pressure to strike a match. :original:

Good Looking Out!:lightsabre:

[777 The Great Work]

Good Looking Out!:lightsabre:

Time to grab the bull by the horns.:naughty:

:welcomeani: Back

[John aka#404]

Hello all.

Myplanet2 -- thank you for your posts in this thread. Truly insightful and exactly what we all should be focusing on. You said some things I need to digest and meditate on. Thank you.

Lastly, I just wanted to throw in my two-bits in on this Alex thing... pray for him and Jeff Rense and all the others in the front lines. We can debate until we are blue in the face who they really work for... but we should take that energy into meditation and prayer for those leading / attempting to lead.

Oh... and pray for Br. Kapner as well.


-John aka#404

[Humble Janitor]

There's no arguing that Alex is passionate about what he does.

To me, he's just another loudmouth talking piece, much like Rush Limbaugh.

[Myplanet2]

There's something else that there's no arguing. Alex has really done a job of informing himself. If you can get past the obnoxious persona, the guy's got facts and they're right there available for his use when he needs them. That means long and hard looking and studying.

I find it worthwhile to set aside his personality and listen to what he's saying. I also set aside his tirades because I realize he's easily triggered.

Take what you can use and dump the rest. If you can't use any of it, dump it all.

But if he triggers you, then it can be beneficial to you to stop and look at what it is in you which has been triggered.

Some people snap awake with a little beep-beep alarm clock. Others need a dose of freezing water and blunt force trauma for good measure. That's Alex.

I have a friend put on the path to awakening because of Alex Jones. He ignored everything I tried to show him up to the point of Alex. Then all of a sudden I get questions about what else I can show him.

My friend is a bit of a loudmouth himself, so he took an instant interest in Jones. For me, on the other hand, it was always a bit like wading upstream through white water to listen to Alex, but I seldom if ever found fault with the quality of his information. Just his delivery.

There's no arguing that Alex is passionate about what he does.

To me, he's just another loudmouth talking piece, much like Rush Limbaugh.

[Myplanet2]

You're very welcome, John.

If it helps in the digestion process, I can give you the most recent sources of inspiration that I've found useful to me. The last few months have been a real barn burner for me. I've been enjoying some really resonant (for me) audio recordings of Channelings lately.

The ones which provide the highest frequency which I'm yet able to "contact" are those coming from the 9th dimensional Pleiadian collective which is channeled by Wendy Kennedy. I can't recommend these recordings highly enough. The sources are Wendy's website, http://www.higherfrequencies.net/channeledmessages.html And her 2 interviews with Rebecca Journigan http://www.journeyswithrebecca.com/archives_09.html The Feb 17 and Mar 3 shows are with Wendy Kennedy. And a recent (Mar 27) conversation with Jay Hill on blogtalkradio
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/aware/2009/03/28/2012-a-guide-to-spiritual-awareness

Not much Channeled work passes the discernment filter, but Wendy's work does for me. It has that "out of time" quality and the love and compassion is unmistakeable. It's become a real challenge to hang onto any hate, fear, judgement, polarized views, etc since absorbing these works, that I'm hardly the same person after a short period of time.

I can't recommend this work enough. It's taken me about a half dozen listenings each to really have it sink in and become digested, but it's so easy while listening, because the communication is direct being to being.

I also find it helpful to download and edit the recordings to omit all the advertising, as I find that lowering of the frequency a bit like a wet blanket after Listening to the channeling.



Hello all.

Myplanet2 -- thank you for your posts in this thread. Truly insightful and exactly what we all should be focusing on. You said some things I need to digest and meditate on. Thank you.

-John aka#404

[Dominic]

Statement from Jeff Rense

Regarding The Alex Jones Issue
Jeff Rense
3-31-9

Those who know me and understand the enormous effort involved in presenting news and inquiry, fully-realize I do not threaten people. It is anathema to me and all that I stand for. The issues involved in the current controversy are virtually insignificant to the pressing mandate of confronting and exposing the enemy attacking what's left of our Liberty, our Constitution and our very way of life. I have not gone to court for a restraining order against Mr. Jones, nor have I filed formal charges against anyone. A police report and case number are far different and are employed to simply make formal note of an event. The critical nature of the crisis confronting the patriot community and our Republic requires the full energies of all of us, and I therefore consider the current issue closed. As I always have, I wish the Jones family and all honorable Americans health, wellness and security, just as I do for my own family. Both Mr. Jones and myself have been the recipients of many death threats over the years and I have now received even more to add to that sorry total. In bringing this matter to a close, I have removed my private reply to a longtime listener from my MySpace page. Once again, I do NOT threaten people nor have I ever done so in my entire life. I trust Mr. Jones will join with me in moving ahead together to confront the darkness now enshrouding our planet. There is simply no time for anything else.

[Aerizhut]

Maybe, maybe not. What pisses me off is the fact that he is a paid CIA instigator. The proof is out there.:lightsabre:

[Myplanet2]

Maybe, maybe not. What pisses me off is the fact that he is a paid CIA instigator. The proof is out there.:lightsabre: :lmao:

[Baron]

I'm surprised it has taken so long for many to realise that "Alex Jones" is a con-man.All his so called knowledge insights information he has swiped off others efforts, and he has the information before him to twaddle off as if he has done the research and knows his stuff.He has lists with all the info on the topic he's on, just like the Obamination needs his Teleprompter!

One of the reasons he is so aggressive according to some rumours from some very good sources, is that he is now a married heterosexual and now regrets his past sexuality behaviour and his battle with alcohol. Especially with his religious background,though there is nothing pious and kind about him.

Psychologists have long known that most school bully's,violent and aggressive men are usually battling a dilemma over their sexuality, and cover it up with excessive macho bravado and violence, and bully other boys and men who are usually very normal and NOT aggressive.

85% of School bully's are "closet" perverts or bisexuals and homosexuals!
Interesting fact.

Alex Jones behaviour last year at the DNC when he chased Michele Malkin (No kudos for Malkin but for her Zionist propaganda,but even she is human and does not deserve to be terrorised) and lost the plot totally he went MAD! Which should have alerted most people, he is mad and also a phony disinformation con artist. Now his two latest attacks one on a guest and the latest on Jeff Rense just proves this Tiger cannot change its spots.

Unfortunately many Americans are so easily fooled! You only have to use the word "patriot" or "free speech" a few times and you have a following, of those who know something is wrong, but they just don't have the knowledge.Which is not their fault on the whole.Dumbing down and all that.So the likes of Alex Jones exist!!! Alex Jones talks of free speech yet censors his websites! That says it all he can sling it but cannot take it.

[Myplanet2]

I recommend finding and presenting some actual facts, as opposed to this armchair character assassination.

"...the fact that he is a paid CIA instigator." (What proof?)

"The proof is out there." (where? If you drop a turd in the room, at least say where it came from.)

"...Rumors from some very good sources..." (are you kidding? This is exactly how the PTB smear somebody)

Call his sexuality and religious affiliations into question, as though that has anything to do with anything.

If you can't produce any facts then you do an indignity to Alex and even more so to yourselves and this group by even starting in.

The vast majority here at Avalon are way beyond being able to be influenced by such lame attempts at discrediting.

What are YOU doing about the state of this planet. (besides telling those on the front lines what's wrong with their efforts and them personally)

Sheesh.

[orthodoxymoron]

Could the people who have rejected Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Naomi Wolf, etc. please direct me toward someone I can believe in? Take me to your leader. Seriously. Who is doing the best job of exposing evil and corruption in our world today? I'm fickle. I try to listen to whoever makes sense. I try to be open...yet critical. Thanks in advance.

[Myplanet2]

Could the people who have rejected Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Naomi Wolf, etc. please direct me toward someone I can believe in? Take me to your leader. Seriously. Who is doing the best job of exposing evil and corruption in our world today? I'm fickle. I try to listen to whoever makes sense. I try to be open...yet critical. Thanks in advance.

I think the whole point of this exercise is to realize that only we can guide ourselves.

You can look to others for clues, but you should never believe any of them. That bypasses your own involvement. Clues can only provide places to look. And once you see, use your own heart to guide you.

It doesn't work to give too much credence to multiple iterations of the same observations, because that can be intentiionally created as well. The PTB are always throwing the same tid bits out on numerous lines to make them seem to be coming from multiple sources, when really they come from the same sources.

It may sound trite, but your heart will tell you what to give weight to by permitting a resonance.

The biggest obstacle is the reliance on the Lovely chatter of the HMS, which parades out the "words" and "pictures" and tries to reduce everything to symbols and relationships and significances. That's all noise. And completely anachronistic at this point in our development.

A perfect example of how absurd this can get, is judging a person and therefore by association the value of their offerings by how they shake hands. I'm literally on the floor laughing when I see that. It's slapstick.

Listen to whatever you like and to whomever you like and simply notice if a resonance grows, or if the connection is just dead. If a resonance grows, then look. Look for yourself. What does your heart say? Is this fact something of meaning to me? or shall I set it aside.

But to set something aside because some nitwit said the source is questionable or shady in their opinion just closes doors, which may have opened for you for a good reason.

[Baron]

"...Rumors from some very good sources..." (are you kidding? This is exactly how the PTB smear somebody)

Call his sexuality and religious affiliations into question, as though that has anything to do with anything."
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I should have written a very, very, reliable source rather than Rumours! However the sources are genuine and I could not name them because Alex is a raving psychopath and their survival depends on being anon.Just like Bill and Kerry's whistle blowers cannot name sources.

A few of his ex school friends, no NOT friends! Are on the net ask and they my spill the beans for you , and fill you in.

But the evidence is clear and right there if you look hard enough.He has even said as much himself on a few of his drunken rants on air! His sexuality is no concern of mine or the whistle-blowers, but the profile fits perfectly for somebody who is now a religious and practising heterosexual. When he was once Bisexual at the very least.

His violent anger threats and aggression also fits the bill of being a closet bi or homosexual who is pretending to be straight, so over acts his he-man image. These are the same people that assault heterosexuals in jail.In denial butch big angry violent types who pick on straight normal men and assault them.

This how he has most likely been controlled by the Zionists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-DoxqvqjxM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_MV0RDBRZU

But I'm not the only one I was a listener for a while and got drawn in, but some things did not add up so I went digging. You should do the same and you will find he's not who or what he claims to be.

No need for anybody to do a character smear him! He does that all by himself.

[Myplanet2]

None of this is the point. The point is the message. Not the messenger. and even if the message is lost on you, it might be exactly what's needed for someone else. If he bugs you, stay away from him.

The pointing finger always traces back to something "unsavory" at the originating end.




"...Rumors from some very good sources..." (are you kidding? This is exactly how the PTB smear somebody)

Call his sexuality and religious affiliations into question, as though that has anything to do with anything."
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I should have written a very, very, reliable source rather than Rumours! However the sources are genuine and I could not name them because Alex is a raving psychopath and their survival depends on being anon.Just like Bill and Kerry's whistle blowers cannot name sources.

A few of his ex school friends, no NOT friends! Are on the net ask and they my spill the beans for you , and fill you in.

But the evidence is clear and right there if you look hard enough.He has even said as much himself on a few of his drunken rants on air! His sexuality is no concern of mine or the whistle-blowers, but the profile fits perfectly for somebody who is now a religious and practising heterosexual. When he was once Bisexual at the very least.

His violent anger threats and aggression also fits the bill of being a closet bi or homosexual who is pretending to be straight, so over acts his he-man image. These are the same people that assault heterosexuals in jail.In denial butch big angry violent types who pick on straight normal men and assault them.

This how he has most likely been controlled by the Zionists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-DoxqvqjxM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_MV0RDBRZU

But I'm not the only one I was a listener for a while and got drawn in, but some things did not add up so I went digging. You should do the same and you will find he's not who or what he claims to be.

No need for anybody to do a character smear him! He does that all by himself.

[Baron]

None of this is the point. The point is the message. Not the messenger. and even if the message is lost on you, it might be exactly what's needed for someone else. If he bugs you, stay away from him.

The pointing finger always traces back to something "unsavory" at the originating end.
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Sorry sporting blood but you have lost me here!


"None of this is the point.The point is the message."

Get out of here you are talking pedantic poppy ****! Alex Jones himself quotes anonymous sources, throws insults, threatens people and much much more and I share some information from a good source and you are telling me if he bugs me stay away! Well if I bug you why don't you stay away? It works both ways.My reply was valid to this original comment.

In fact I don't frequent Jones any more because I caught onto his BS. But after the threats he made and what he did threatening Jeff Rense, and then forcing GCN to take his show away, and having all youtube vids negative comments about Alex taken away including having the comment section reversed with mass posts, to hide negative comments because he has a hack inside youtube! Which he has bragged about very often. Is NOT free speech which is a contradiction to what he says he stands for!! Do YOU get that bit??

Everybody is talking about it,but go look for yourself at all the forums.Alex even took away all posts with Jeff Rense's name right back to august 2007 on his own sites deleting his fans posts!! He hates free speech the liar. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.You and he don't see that.

You support him that's your prerogative, but don't go telling me that I cannot do what he does with my free speech! At least I'm civil without BS anger threats of violence and pedantic's.


What I wrote was balanced correct and I shared something from a reliable source. If you don't believe it go find out for yourself, its not hard do a few googles and check out you tube or even the two vids I sent.

[777 The Great Work]

Alex Jones got a Beef with Jeff Rense. :lol3::lol3:
:roll1::roll1::roll1::roll1: its the nature of taurus the Bull,April 20,GTO fast and the Furious. :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Myplanet2]

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Sorry sporting blood but you have lost me here!


"None of this is the point.The point is the message."

Get out of here you are talking pedantic poppy ****! Alex Jones himself quotes anonymous sources, throws insults, threatens people and much much more and I share some information from a good source and you are telling me if he bugs me stay away! Well if I bug you why don't you stay away? It works both ways.My reply was valid to this original comment.

In fact I don't frequent Jones any more because I caught onto his BS. But after the threats he made and what he did threatening Jeff Rense, and then forcing GCN to take his show away, and having all youtube vids negative comments about Alex taken away including having the comment section reversed with mass posts, to hide negative comments because he has a hack inside youtube! Which he has bragged about very often. Is NOT free speech which is a contradiction to what he says he stands for!! Do YOU get that bit??

Everybody is talking about it,but go look for yourself at all the forums.Alex even took away all posts with Jeff Rense's name right back to august 2007 on his own sites deleting his fans posts!! He hates free speech the liar. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.You and he don't see that.

You support him that's your prerogative, but don't go telling me that I cannot do what he does with my free speech! At least I'm civil without BS anger threats of violence and pedantic's.


What I wrote was balanced correct and I shared something from a reliable source. If you don't believe it go find out for yourself, its not hard do a few googles and check out you tube or even the two vids I sent.

Since I'm not looking to smear Alex Jones, why would I go off in search of material to smear him with?

Since you were looking to smear him, you went off and "found" some source to provide that smearing.

My point, in less pedantic language, is that I don't have a problem with Alex Jones. And I'm sure Alex Jones doesn't have a problem with me. Does Alex Jones have a problem with you? has he attacked you? Does he visit forums and smear you? Lastly, you DO have a problem with Alex Jones.

So, non-pedantic question: Who's the one with the problem?

Non-pedantic answer: You.

My earlier, more pedantic posts on this subject, were addressing the concept that If you're having a problem... YOU'RE having a problem. Alex Jones ****** you off. That could never happen if you didn't have something within you being mirrored by Alex Jones and his behaviour.

And the above quoted post from you exemplifies (oops, sorry. shows) this to be true.

perhaps doing some personal work on yourself instead of nattering away at a courageous, fierce soul, behind his back, would be time well spent.

Or not. your choice how you choose to interact. But here's a little wisdom from Alex Jones, or somebody a lot like him. "Karma's a b**ch.

[Humble Janitor]

I'm surprised it has taken so long for many to realise that "Alex Jones" is a con-man.All his so called knowledge insights information he has swiped off others efforts, and he has the information before him to twaddle off as if he has done the research and knows his stuff.He has lists with all the info on the topic he's on, just like the Obamination needs his Teleprompter!

One of the reasons he is so aggressive according to some rumours from some very good sources, is that he is now a married heterosexual and now regrets his past sexuality behaviour and his battle with alcohol. Especially with his religious background,though there is nothing pious and kind about him.

Psychologists have long known that most school bully's,violent and aggressive men are usually battling a dilemma over their sexuality, and cover it up with excessive macho bravado and violence, and bully other boys and men who are usually very normal and NOT aggressive.

85% of School bully's are "closet" perverts or bisexuals and homosexuals!
Interesting fact.

From where?

I was a bully in school for very different reasons. I had to stand up for myself because I got bullied due to my disability.

Though I have come to realize over the years that many of the males that bullied me in school later came out as homosexuals.

Regardless, I don't think that attacking Alex's sexuality is fair and we should refrain from that. That is behavior of the old paradigm.


Alex Jones behaviour last year at the DNC when he chased Michele Malkin (No kudos for Malkin but for her Zionist propaganda,but even she is human and does not deserve to be terrorised) and lost the plot totally he went MAD! Which should have alerted most people, he is mad and also a phony disinformation con artist. Now his two latest attacks one on a guest and the latest on Jeff Rense just proves this Tiger cannot change its spots.

Malkin has said some pretty despicable things and I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't have the capabiilty for regret.

Still does not justify any form of violence towards her.


Unfortunately many Americans are so easily fooled! You only have to use the word "patriot" or "free speech" a few times and you have a following, of those who know something is wrong, but they just don't have the knowledge.Which is not their fault on the whole.Dumbing down and all that.So the likes of Alex Jones exist!!! Alex Jones talks of free speech yet censors his websites! That says it all he can sling it but cannot take it.

Alex Jones and Jeff Rense both reek of this. I do not trust or support either.

[Baron]

[QUOTE=Myplanet2;125493]Since I'm not looking to smear Alex Jones, why would I go off in search of material to smear him with?

Alex smears himself.But the reason you wont look at other information is because you are brain washed by his twisted message I presume.You are a taken in fan.

Since you were looking to smear him, you went off and "found" some source to provide that smearing.

No I did not go off looking for evidence to smear him! He does that all by himself.I took the testimony of two whistle blowers and presented it here, just like Bill and Kerry do for whistle blowers.

My point, in less pedantic language, is that I don't have a problem with Alex Jones. And I'm sure Alex Jones doesn't have a problem with me. Does Alex Jones have a problem with you? has he attacked you? Does he visit forums and smear you? Lastly, you DO have a problem with Alex Jones.

You are not less pedantic you are as pedantic as before.Off course you don't have a problem with Alex Jones, you are an apologist for him and possibly one of his stooges.

So, non-pedantic question: Who's the one with the problem?

Non-pedantic answer: You.


NO you are wrong YOU are the one with the problem, of what I reported here!


My earlier, more pedantic posts on this subject, were addressing the concept that If you're having a problem... YOU'RE having a problem. Alex Jones ****** you off. That could never happen if you didn't have something within you being mirrored by Alex Jones and his behaviour.

What?!!!! Your esoterica in your BS is ridicules. Write in plain English for crying out loud.I'm having a problem with Alex Jones? LOL. I have a problem with his lying agenda anger violence and threats he makes on people. Something within me is being mirrored by Alex Jones! Give me a break here what you on about some space time conundrum?!! So since I disagree with your defence of Alex Jones behaviour, I'm mirroring you and really believe your the epitome of truth and reason. Oh shut up! Get a life.


And the above quoted post from you exemplifies (oops, sorry. shows) this to be true.

Again what are you on? What to be true? That I have found out he's a disinformation Zionist agent and battling sex and alcohol problems to boot?!

perhaps doing some personal work on yourself instead of nattering away at a courageous, fierce soul, behind his back, would be time well spent.


With that question you are mirroring your guru Alex Jones. I don't need to do any personal work on myself I have a gorgeous wife for that! Nattering away at a courages fierce soul,behind his back? LOL. Well I was nattering to you if anything and not behind his back,this is not behind his back, he knows what I and others know about him and he is stum, and you can reiterate this anyway when you report back to him later.

Or not. your choice how you choose to interact. But here's a little wisdom from Alex Jones, or somebody a lot like him. "Karma's a b**ch

Well I think its Alex Jones who has to worry about his Karma and it being a bitch.

What are you doing here at Camelot and Avalon? These sites are for discourse and for sharing information.Based on a website for getting the truth out, no matter how dirty, for and by whistle blowers.You only want to read whistle blower testimony if it suits your chain of thought and does not dampen and expose your gurus as being anything but what you deem them.
Alex Jones is a bully and violent, threatening ,angry,liar disinformation Zionist stooge, who advocates freedom of speech but not about himself, so he "censors" all about himself! That does not stink of hypocrisy to you then?!

Oh and if you think Alex Jones is doing all this out of his own pocket for informing YOU and his followers with free to download films, then you are brain washed! His films are loss leaders and he sells tons of **** from his site, and via the radio to most who who couldn't rip a disk if they tried. Just look up his tax returns, and you tell me how much his income was the last three years? It will blow your mind he's a multi millionaire! All from Doing his charity work! LOL.

Alex "jone" Jones forum would be a better place for you to hang out, and you can get some personal work as you call it, done on yourself there, no question.Myplanet you are on a sulphur planet of your own don't bother me again with your stupid hypocrisy and esoteric mumbo jumbo.

[orthodoxymoron]

I'm going to take a vacation from this stuff. But before I go...I previously asked for advice regarding who I could believe in. When one tears down...one should be prepared to build upon a better foundation. I'm waiting to hear what this better foundation and structure might be.

Also...what do you think about the guests Alex has on his show? Even if Alex is a hot head with all manner of inconsistencies and issues...what about his general message and the messages of his guests? Are his videos factually incorrect? If so...where? Which videos do you prefer to watch?

I rarely listen to Jones...but when I do...the information presented is hard to refute...although the manner in which it is presented is sometimes hard to take.:mad3:

[Zeddo]

I wonder if anyone has bothered to ask Alex Jones where he stands? I'm sure he'd be happy to answer if you asked in a civil mannr.

Hmmm, that is sooooooo stupid, just like this whoe thread.

:eyes::hammer::blowup:

[Myplanet2]

Sorry if my suggestions were not useful. Bye.

[QUOTE=Myplanet2;125493]Since I'm not looking to smear Alex Jones, why would I go off in search of material to smear him with?

Alex smears himself.But the reason you wont look at other information is because you are brain washed by his twisted message I presume.You are a taken in fan.

Since you were looking to smear him, you went off and "found" some source to provide that smearing.

No I did not go off looking for evidence to smear him! He does that all by himself.I took the testimony of two whistle blowers and presented it here, just like Bill and Kerry do for whistle blowers.

My point, in less pedantic language, is that I don't have a problem with Alex Jones. And I'm sure Alex Jones doesn't have a problem with me. Does Alex Jones have a problem with you? has he attacked you? Does he visit forums and smear you? Lastly, you DO have a problem with Alex Jones.

You are not less pedantic you are as pedantic as before.Off course you don't have a problem with Alex Jones, you are an apologist for him and possibly one of his stooges.

So, non-pedantic question: Who's the one with the problem?

Non-pedantic answer: You.


NO you are wrong YOU are the one with the problem, of what I reported here!


My earlier, more pedantic posts on this subject, were addressing the concept that If you're having a problem... YOU'RE having a problem. Alex Jones ****** you off. That could never happen if you didn't have something within you being mirrored by Alex Jones and his behaviour.

What?!!!! Your esoterica in your BS is ridicules. Write in plain English for crying out loud.I'm having a problem with Alex Jones? LOL. I have a problem with his lying agenda anger violence and threats he makes on people. Something within me is being mirrored by Alex Jones! Give me a break here what you on about some space time conundrum?!! So since I disagree with your defence of Alex Jones behaviour, I'm mirroring you and really believe your the epitome of truth and reason. Oh shut up! Get a life.


And the above quoted post from you exemplifies (oops, sorry. shows) this to be true.

Again what are you on? What to be true? That I have found out he's a disinformation Zionist agent and battling sex and alcohol problems to boot?!

perhaps doing some personal work on yourself instead of nattering away at a courageous, fierce soul, behind his back, would be time well spent.


With that question you are mirroring your guru Alex Jones. I don't need to do any personal work on myself I have a gorgeous wife for that! Nattering away at a courages fierce soul,behind his back? LOL. Well I was nattering to you if anything and not behind his back,this is not behind his back, he knows what I and others know about him and he is stum, and you can reiterate this anyway when you report back to him later.

Or not. your choice how you choose to interact. But here's a little wisdom from Alex Jones, or somebody a lot like him. "Karma's a b**ch

Well I think its Alex Jones who has to worry about his Karma and it being a bitch.

What are you doing here at Camelot and Avalon? These sites are for discourse and for sharing information.Based on a website for getting the truth out, no matter how dirty, for and by whistle blowers.You only want to read whistle blower testimony if it suits your chain of thought and does not dampen and expose your gurus as being anything but what you deem them.
Alex Jones is a bully and violent, threatening ,angry,liar disinformation Zionist stooge, who advocates freedom of speech but not about himself, so he "censors" all about himself! That does not stink of hypocrisy to you then?!

Oh and if you think Alex Jones is doing all this out of his own pocket for informing YOU and his followers with free to download films, then you are brain washed! His films are loss leaders and he sells tons of **** from his site, and via the radio to most who who couldn't rip a disk if they tried. Just look up his tax returns, and you tell me how much his income was the last three years? It will blow your mind he's a multi millionaire! All from Doing his charity work! LOL.

Alex "jone" Jones forum would be a better place for you to hang out, and you can get some personal work as you call it, done on yourself there, no question.Myplanet you are on a sulphur planet of your own don't bother me again with your stupid hypocrisy and esoteric mumbo jumbo.

[Myplanet2]

I'm going to take a vacation from this stuff. But before I go...I previously asked for advice regarding who I could believe in. When one tears down...one should be prepared to build upon a better foundation. I'm waiting to hear what this better foundation and structure might be.

Also...what do you think about the guests Alex has on his show? Even if Alex is a hot head with all manner of inconsistencies and issues...what about his general message and the messages of his guests? Are his videos factually incorrect? If so...where? Which videos do you prefer to watch?

I rarely listen to Jones...but when I do...the information presented is hard to refute...although the manner in which it is presented is sometimes hard to take.:mad3:

You can't believe in anyone. Belief is not necessary, and substitutes for looking.

Even factual information, backed up with evidence, is presented with an intent. Until intent can be determined, information will be ambiguous, to say the least.

I thought Alex Jones' recent film on Obama, was his best so far. To my perception, it had much less intent to instill fear, and much more intent to inform. Some of his previous offerings seemed to be trying to scare people into acting. And I don't see the kind of action he appears to favor as having long term benefit or workability.

Alex Jones seems to want to expose the plans in place to put us under ever increasing control, and the actions taken and by whom, to carry those plans out.

If that's the kind of information you need right now, then Alex is a good source, although if you don't want to be prompted towards fear, you need to filter that intent out, and just look at the facts he presents, and then look for yourself to see if that is true.

Fear us up for many, but for most of us here, it's down, and way down. We don't need fear to wake us up.

But for a friend of mine, it was exactly what he needed, and he's been on the path of finding out about the secret manipulations since watching the Obama Deception.

Alex gets some good guests, but I can't really listen to him. He interrupts all the time, and shouts too much, and I've got a real thing about all the advertising.

I do enjoy his Infowars site for the headlines, because a small part of me still likes to keep up on the progress of the "planners" and I know Alex is watching them and reports on what he finds out.

Personally, I've learned to trust my intuition, and don't "buy" anyones package. There isn't a single person who's offerings I accept automatically. The key comes from learning to discern intent, IMO. If you can read intent, you know exactly how to weigh information being presented.

The people "stirred up" by Alex are simply afraid. And Alex would probably consider that a job well done, because he's afraid himself, and thinks it's the right reaction to what the PTB are up to.

That's not true. Fear is the exact wrong response, because it breeds inaction. It triggers flight in corporeal beings. The choice becomes fight or flight, but fight is usually only the last resort if flight isn't possible. If people are afraid, then they are less likely to rock the boat. The best option, IMO is to get out of the boat. No fear. No anger. Just a simple walking away.

Many groups are forming which have this viewpoint as a basis. Just walk away and get on with a life outside the matrix. Fear has no part of this activity. In fact it requires total fearlessness. Because it's taking back the power of determining your own state and future state. George Green called them Ground Crew, and Michael St Clair uses Radiant Zones.

All the PTB can do is try to keep us in the belief that without all the systems and controls they've put in place, we'd have nothing and no ability to survive. Total Crock...

That is only true when almost everyone buys it. If even one percent of the population comes to the conclusion that they aren't going along with that garbage anymore, and are just not going to play along in their little job and their little house, taking their kids to their little schools and turning on their little mind numbing TV's while swilling down a few beers, and get together to form some real little communities based on mutual aid and cooperation, the PTB are done.

Their only tool is their ability to continue to convince us we have no choice but to play along because they control everything. It's why they've wormed their way into the areas they have. Education, Banking, Government, Military, Agriculture, Media, business. The common denominator is increased and ever more centralized control. The entirety of their game for it's whole history, has been to gather more and more control into fewer and fewer hands, in all the above mentioned areas. By Corollary, that also gives us the solution. DeCentralize. Grow your own food, and encourage others to as well. Barter for your needs. Stop using banks. Stop watching TV. Stop paying taxes. Stop applying for all of their yokes. They have no authority to impose any of that. They have tricked us into "applying" for it all. We "SUBMIT" forms. We "APPLY" for licenses. We "CONTRACT" with them for our own enslavement. It's a scam. A con. We're duped. And all of the PTB actions are in the direction of reinforcing their almightiness, and our puniness. Their total control and our complete lack of any choice. None of it is true. In fact the exact opposite is true.

If enough people just wake up to the scam, then the jig is up. They'll just start walking away. some will walk away and into harms way, but the PTB have the reach only to make a few examples to put the fear back in place. When a critical mass of the population wakes up and simply says "Oh...this has been an illusion all this time", and simply adopts another way of life, the PTB are done. There will be a mass exodus and the PTB will be left hold the reigns with no horses attached. They have nothing, without all of us in our proper place, under their thumbs.

A few people who've been specifically looking at this angle are Aaron Russo, Rob Menard (thinkfree) and Stefan Molyneux (freedomainradio). I'd just advise before checking them out, to be sure to put your "intent" filters on. Look at the information while remaining cognizant of the their intent, because they do all have personal agendas or purposes for doing what they do, and that comes through their work.

[Dominic]

More evidence


Do The Jews Own Hollywood
And The Media?
By Texe Marrs
5-9-9


Do the Zionist Jews own Hollywood and the media? Are they using the media to mold and shape American opinion by constantly injecting Zionist propaganda and bias into news programs, movies, television shows, even children's cartoons and entertainment?

The answer is so blatantly "Yes!" that you wouldn't think these questions are even worth pursuing. But recently, the untoward comments of a patriot talk show host made me stop and rethink it. Are there people out there-even in the Patriot Movement-who really are that much in the dark, who deny Jewish influence in the media?

Recently, when a caller to a talk show on the Genesis Radio Network (GCN) suggested that the Jews control the media, the host went wild. He raged on and on, playing the race card. He branded the surprised caller and others like him who are weary of Zionist influence "Nazis" and "anti-Semites." Angrily, he denied Jewish involvement in any conspiracies and ridiculed those who had the audacity to suggest that Jews run Hollywood or the media. Then, in a real fit of spewed venom, the talk show host demanded that the caller and all others who believe like him should go out and hang themselves to promote population reduction.

As if that wasn't hateful enough, the pro-Zionist host then stated that all the "Nazis and Anti-Semites" who opposed Zionism and the Jews should plug in an electric toaster, hold it to their naked bodies, jump into a bathtub filled with water, and have a party." In other words, kill themselves.

Quite a rampage by the supposedly "patriot" talk show host. And all because the poor caller had dared to propose undue Jewish influence over the media.

Hearing the actual taped broadcast of this unbelievable tirade by a pro-Zionist advocate confirmed my resolve to inform good folks once again of the truly dictatorial grip that Zionist Jews have on the media. The best way to do this is not to rage and spew venom, but simply to present the facts, to document the truth of Jewish control of the media.


What Do Knowledgeable Jews Say?

How about going to top Jews in the media themselves and see what they say? Take Joel Stein, for example, columnist for the Los Angeles Times newspaper and regular contributor to Time magazine. In his column in the LA Times (Dec. 19, 2008), Stein says that Americans who think the Jews do not control Hollywood and the media are just plain "dumb."

"Jews totally run Hollywood." Stein proudly admits. He then goes on to provide a long, long list of Hollywood/media chieftains-all Jews!-to prove his point. On his list: Fox News President Peter Chernin; Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey; Walt Disney CEO Robert Igor; Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton; Warner Brothers Chairman Barry Meyer; CBS CEO Leslie Moonves; MGM Chairman Harry Sloan; and NBC/Universal Studios CEO Jeff Zucker.

That's just the top brass at the studios. Then there are the actors and entertainers-predominantly Jews, from Barbara Streisand and Gwyneth Paltrow to Tom Hanks and Ben Afleck. JewJewand Jew again. As Stein wryly remarks, even the head of the Actors' Union, the Screen Actors Guild, Alan Rosenberg, is a Jew.

"The Jews are so dominant," writes Stein, "I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies." "But lo and behold," Stein says, "even one of that six, AMC President Charles Collier, turned out to be a Jew!"

"As a proud Jew," says Joel Stein, "I want America to know of our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood."

ADL's Foxman Admits Jewish Control

Stein says he then called Abe Foxman, Chairman of the Jewish ADL, to ask him, why don't more Jews just come out and boast at this great accomplishment? Foxman responded by admitting that yes, it's true that most of the top execs "happen to be Jewish." In fact, Foxman told Stein, "all eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish."

Ben Stein (no relation to Joel), the well-known Jewish actor, economic commentator and writer, when asked "Do Jews run Hollywood?" stared blankly at the questioner, then retorted, "You bet they do-and what of it?" Shahar Ilan, writing in haaretz.com, the internet division of Israel's top daily newspaper, commented, "The Jews do control the American media. This is very clear, and claiming otherwise is an insult to common knowledge."

Neal Gabler, also a Jew and a noted media researcher, wrote an entire book outlining Jewish control of Hollywood. It was entitled, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood. But to really see how the Jews, in their own publications and press, view the reality of Jewish control of the media, all one has to do is take a look at a recent issue of the Jewish Daily Forward, which featured an article entitled, "Billionaire Boychiks Battle for Media Empire."

Billionaire Jews Battle For Media

This fascinating, look-see article discussed how the Jews had for decades owned the media and now were competing; that is, vying, to buy one of America's most powerful media companies, Tribune Company, which owns 23 television stations, a baseball team, and many major newspapers, including the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times.

"However, it turns out," gloated the Jewish mag, "we'll have a Jew in charge of the (LA) Times, which was once one of old Los Angeles' most famous WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) institutions. What a great day for old LA Jews"

The publication noted that among the Jewish billionaires ("boychiks") vying for the Tribune media empire is "Liberal, Jewish, media mogul David Geffen."

And who, pray tell, is the current owner of the Tribune Company? Why, that would be Jewish billionaire Sam Zell. Zell is a major donor to Israeli, Zionist and Jewish causes. His own rabbi proudly reports that Zell is "a committed Zionist, a generous supporter of Israel, and a member in good standing of the synagogue."

Asked who his own favorite newspaper columnists were, Zell quickly answered, "Charles Krauthammer, Thomas Friedman, and David Brooks." Surprise! The trio are all ardent Zionist whack-jobs who clamor over each other demanding the U.S. attack Iran, provide billions more in foreign aid to favored nation Israel, and so forth.

Local Newspapers Owned By Foreign Agents

So powerful is the Jewish control over the media that Nathanael Kapner, a rare Jew who converted to Christianity and now is adept at reporting these things, asserts, that no longer can we trust our local daily newspaper. "Zionist Jews have taken over the 'local newspaper' in America," Kapner writes. Indeed he explains that there basically is no local newspaper anymore, because, "Most local newspapers are owned by companies controlled by Zionists whose offices are hundreds of miles away."

Kapner provides manifold evidence of Zionists' dominating control of the media at all levels. The Newhouse Empire of the Jewish brothers Samuel, Donald, and Theodore Newhouse, Kapner says, "illustrates the insatiable appetite for opinion control:"

"Today, the Newhouse Empire owns 40 local newspapers across the U.S.A. These include the Newark Star Ledger, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Portland Oregonian, and the St. Louis Globe-Democrat."

Then, there are the vast array of magazines run by the Jewish Newhouse family-including the New Yorker, Vogue, Golf Digest, Glamour, Gentleman's Quarterly (GQ), and the massively circulated newspaper insert, Parade magazine.

Jewish Media Spew Out Pro-Zionist Propaganda

The fact that Zionists control virtually every media outlet in America is no doubt why the American citizenry hears only one version of events in the Middle East-the pro-Jew, pro-Israeli side. This led Dr. Kevin MacDonald, professor at California State University, to write:

"In the contemporary world, organized American Jewish lobbying groups and deeply committed Jews in the media are behind the pro-Israel U.S. foreign policy that is leading to war against virtually the entire Arab world."

This Zionist bias and propaganda spin by the Jewish-owned American media is not new. As far back as 1978, the noted Jewish political writer Alfred Lillienthal, in his revealing book, The Zionist Connection, stated:

"The most effective component of Jewish connection is probably that of media control. It is well known that American opinion molders have long been largely influenced by a handful of powerful newspapers, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the St. Louis-Post Dispatch (All Jewish Families)."

To further illustrate the breadth of Jewish media control, we note that Jewish magnate Arthur Sulzberger's media empire today includes not only the New York Times (which, in Stalin's day, systematically covered up the genocidal crimes of Jewish commissars in Communist U.S.S.R), but also the Boston Globe, the Lexington Dispatch (NC), the Gainesville Sun (FL), the Ocala Star Banner (FL), the Tuscaloosa News (AL), the Spartansburg Herald Journal (SC), and the Santa Barbara News Press (CA). Each of the newspapers Lillienthal mentioned back in 1978, in turn, owned and still owns dozens of others. So tainted is the news because of this that almost every newspaper in America endorsed President George Bush's radically pro-Israel policies in the Middle East, including Israel's savage butchery of Lebanon and Palestine.

There can be no doubt. It is easy for us to document the massive dominance over the media by evil Jewish shills who are continually hostile to pure American interests while, everyday, unabashedly spewing out reams of misleading Zionist propaganda. Time magazine, Newsweek, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX-and many, many more are all owned or run by Jews and operated solely to further the aims of the traitorous, anti-American, ever-growing Zionist World Empire.

All America Under the Hidden, Red Iron First of Zionism

Of course, the media, even as important as it is to our culture, is only a bit piece of the whole that is now regrettably under the big thumbs of the Jewish Zionist elite. Our educational establishment, Wall Street, the banks, the Federal Reserve, our Congress, the White House (just consider Rahm Emmanuel, the Zionist Israeli freak who is Obama's White House Chief of Staff), and our judiciary-each and every one is infiltrated by Zionist radicals who put Israel and their own "Chosen People" first, to the detriment of everything sacred to honest, God-fearing, hard-working Americans.

So, the next time you hear some ignorant rube on talk radio or elsewhere shoving the race card in your face and ranting and raving about "Nazis" and "anti-Semites" who "claim" the Jews control the media, why don't you just reach out and turn that radio dial to another place. And please, don't forget to also let the radio network and station manager know of your displeasure.

The fact is that the dishonest Zionist shills out there promoting Zionist lies, drivel, and nonsense truly deserve our contempt.

The Truth Is Precious

As for Texe Marrs and Power of Prophecy, we have long pledged ourselves to telling you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And part of that truth, simply put, is this: That yes, absolutely, Zionist Jews do own and control Hollywood and the media.

So, beware of their lies and deceit. The truth is precious. Let us work together to protect and nurture it.


(Texe Marrs, Author and Researcher may be contacted at www.powerofprophecy.com)

[Dominic]

Infowarriors????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3DkO1VX4g

[orthodoxymoron]

A different angle on Zionism and Alex Jones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfMwK0kCccI.

[Dominic]

Jones looked nervous when Jordan was talking about it.

Thanks for posting that.

I heard it before but, you get more in depth info each time you hear it.

I found a link to this man Adnan
Khashoggi and the 911 truth movement plus possible owner of GCN.

Look him up he is a dirty player. He has been involved in every conspiracy in the last 50 years.

http://conspiracycentral.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/adnan-khashoggi-gcn-the-protocols-alex-jones-and-the-911-truth-movement/

[Seashore]

Do The Jews Own Hollywood
And The Media?
By Texe Marrs
5-9-9



Please provide the link to the original article...

[Seashore]

Jones looked nervous when Jordan was talking about it.



He didn't look nervous to me.

[Dominic]

Here it is on Rense who has cut all ties with GCN.

http://www.rense.com/general85/ownh.htm

[Seashore]

Here it is on Rense who has cut all ties with GCN.

http://www.rense.com/general85/ownh.htm

Rense should have provided the link, but I see that he did not...

[Myplanet2]

In my opinion, one of the greatest gifts one can give themselves at this particular moment in time, is to refuse to be drawn down into games of acting out polarities. As soon as judgement enters in, personal growth becomes stifled.

I detect a huge manipulation going on right now, which has nothing to do with the subject of this thread, except peripherally, that has to do with the PTB trying to pull out all the stops at their disposal. Things like the stepped up chemtrailing, and, I suspect, stepped up electronic manipulation via Haarp, or gwen, or satellites, or whatever garbage they use, and the incredible increase of propaganda media pounding away at pretending they can just march forward with their agenda and there is nothing we can do about it.

At the same time, there is evidence that they are tightening the screws on their minions in the government and corporate upper levels to push forward their little control points as quickly as they can get away with it without attracting unwanted and uncontrollable attention from those who won't bend to their wills.

Builderburger is for lunch this weekend, I gather.

It's important for us to try to stay above the fray, and not be drawn into the various manipulations being pressed forward.

The specifics of what I see happening have to do with somehow dulling perception, while increasing, dramatically, the propensity towards conflict and disharmony. I'm seeing this in practically every interaction I witness. several marriages that have gone on evenly, are now suddenly ending. People leaving jobs despite the shaky outlook economically. Former friends falling out of friendship. unreturned emails/phone calls, where this would be considered hugely out of character, complaining about people and situations, severe traffic problems, where people just seem to be completely out of it, and very quick to anger, forum members and staff just up and leaving, very little reaching out with interesting threads and posts, people seeming just generally less interested, and the list could go on.

But the point is, that this is a change. It has changed recently. Have you noticed this? everyone I've mentioned it to, has noticed it.

I believe it's manufactured. I believe it's generated intentionally. I'm not sure how, although I suspect the chemtrails, and electronic follow-up. I wouldn't be surprised to learn of tampering with food, water supplies, and even medications. I see increased speed which borders on panic, in the attempts to push through the remaining legislation which the PTB believe will give them cart blanche control without fear of reprisal.

Is it Zionists behind this? I doubt it. It would depend on what you mean by "behind". All the way behind? part of the way behind? they are definitely in there, maybe 75 or 80 percent of the way to the top of the greedy/controlling food chain. But to be going on about the zionists this, or the zionists that, reduces your activity to the level of pawn in the chess game of pre 2012 planet earth.

You have to look at what specific polarities are being activated in you when you paint situations such as are being put forward in this thread, with your own personal attention. If it catches your attention at all, and tries to "stick it" on some polarized situation, then it's a good idea to stop and examine what mole just popped up for you to smack. Because if you examine it instead of playing whatever role in that particular polarity you've personally had activated, you will lessen it's ability to affect you, and you will be able to maintain a detached view, free of fear and anger, and other emotions and energies which take you "down".

whether Alex Jones is this or that, or said this or that, or supports this or that, or ignores this or that, is all really relatively irrelevant in the overall picture. What IS relevant, is whether his activities, or others discussions of his activities are permitted to draw you down into one of your polarities where you'll be "occupied" by the game you can see, while the real game which hides behind the curtain of deceit is having it's way with you and the many others who are being so viciously manipulated just now.

The big push is on. I can feel it in every cell. I can feel the manipulation and the near total desperation which is driving it. Don't be sucked in, because it makes it just so much harder to see the bigger picture.

[burgundia]

Thank you Myplanet2 for reminding us....:wub2:

[Seashore]

I detect a huge manipulation going on right now, which has nothing to do with the subject of this thread, except peripherally, that has to do with the PTB trying to pull out all the stops at their disposal. Things like...stepped up electronic manipulation...

Stewart Swerdlow writes about this today: (Here's the link) (http://expansions.com/News.cfm)

"May 9, 2009
Dangerous Weather

Yesterday a powerful storm rolled across the central and southern US killing several people. The storm was called a "derecho" which is an inland hurricane. It is rare but deadly.

The winds were over 100 mph with several inches of rain in a matter of minutes. It was like a gigantic tornado, destroying homes and businesses in its path.

There has been a massive ELF bombardment in the US which has made people feel sick, irritable and tired. This is also what formed this unusual cyclonic storm.

Perhaps the Illuminati are planning something for Mother Earth Day!"

[Ross H]

Some of the posts on this thread will be making tptb roll in fits of laughter...

The dis-connection paradigm continues...

[Zeddo]

In my opinion, one of the greatest gifts one can give themselves at this particular moment in time, is to refuse to be drawn down into games of acting out polarities. As soon as judgment enters in, personal growth becomes stifled.-------------------



best post in the whole thread and probably the most important.

Z

[mntruthseeker]

I'm SO glad Alex is being exposed.

I have listened to his shows and he always diverts any conversation that becomes too involved in the history of Zionism and the connection between the Illuminati and the state of Israel.
He also makes fun of people like David Icke who mention an Alien Agenda.
He is extremely egotistical and spreads allot of fear and separatism.
We want the truth, not people who manipulate it, disinform, and especially censor part of the story.

Alex has come a very long way. I dont listen to him as much as I used to but he has David Icke on his show quite often lately and speaks very highly on him now adays

I think Alex has grown up so much and has become more aware and awake on so many things.

He doesnt even yell as much anymore and tries to get people to calm down and get things done in a milder manner.

Not the same ole Alex Jones anymore and I applaud him for all that he has done to wake others up

WTG Alex Jones