It's about time!

[recallone]

This is exciting. Tax Day TEA Party.
http://www.teapartyscv.com/

There is a ground swell of people who are bewildered by what is happening in DC and Sacramento and are no longer willing to trust our elected officials with the task of keeping us free from socialism…maybe even fascism. We are living in a time that will go down in the history books. What is said about this chapter in history will be impacted by WE THE PEOPLE and WE must not be silent.

Anything like this happening elsewhere?

[Humble Janitor]

Once again, it uses socialism as a bogeyman.

Gotta love this country and its' ignorance. :wall:

[recallone]

Care to elaborate? I'm glad to see some people getting involved, realizing what direction our country is going in and deciding to do something about it- what are you talking about?

[alyscat]

Well, this DNS was registered on 3/21 to a company in Phoenix, AZ. Doesn't sound quite like the local California endeavor that the brochure would have you believe, does it?

Who is coordinating these things, and why? This is my question.

I agree with HJ. Every time I hear the use of the term socialism, I start to suspect that the Republicans are on their high horse again. It's been used as a boogeyman by the Republicans in the past. I heard it over and over from my brother. The other end of the spectrum seems to be fascism, which is what we're being gently nudged in the direction of, but you don't hear that one spoken of at all.

Some forms of socialism have actually worked a lot better than our corporate mess - Canada, as an example, has a much better medical system than ours. As does, believe it or not, Cuba.

"Fewer taxes" are not going to solve our problems.

alys

[THE eXchanger]

Yes, it sure is time ...
and, that's a gr8 logo
with an old flag on it

excellent post

the I.R.S. - the International Raping System

hopefully, their lawn, will NOT turn green on 4/15

[BROOK]

wow...that is a block from my work :mfr_omg: Only problem I wll be working...if you go...let us know what happens :thumb_yello:

[recallone]

Humble Janitor, alyscat - I sense contempt from both of you about this but I don't know why. Is it because of the labels used? Or is it because a California event was set up by someone in Arizona? I feel like I'm missing something here from your replies. ? ? ?

[alyscat]

contempt? Can't speak for HJ, but I can speak for me. I have absolutely no contempt for you as a person.

I have contempt for the political parties that try to manipulate us by being less than truthful about who they are and why are doing what they do. And who try to use language that is scare mongering (what is socialism, BTW, what does it look like on the ground? Nope, it's used as a boogeyman, just the word, to scare people back into line. To make them think it's the first step to communism <G>.) without defining what it means.

Hopes this helps to understand where I"m coming from.
alys

[Avid]

Humble Janitor, alyscat - I sense contempt from both of you about this but I don't know why. Is it because of the labels used? Or is it because a California event was set up by someone in Arizona? I feel like I'm missing something here from your replies. ? ? ?

A while ago the 'Tea Party' scenario was supposedly set up by undercover operatives to pinpoint 'patriots' and potential 'activists'. Stick a red label on your mailbox if you attend.... hello FEMA camps....
It's seemingly a provocation to identify dissenters - however - if everyone 'dissents' - who's to control the populace...?

[recallone]

Wow. I'm glad you told me. I didn't know. How did you find out about this?

[pyrangello]

This isn't about parties, It's about our money , it's about my money, your money, your familes money even after your dead. Did the founding fathers of this U.S. say anywhere after your dead you get taxed another 45% of what you were already taxed. Double Jepordy doesn't hold up in civil court, why does it in taxes. There are 15 Tea Parties set up here in the state of michigan on the 15th.

I have 1 question for those who doesn't think this will make a difference, at what % of your money needs to be taken, yes taken away that it will make a difference to you? I understand a reasonable tax for our roads, defense, social security ect. BUt not when I hear of 30 million for some little mouse farm in california and other BS pork barrel I'll give to you , then you empower me via yours oh excuse me mine, no yours money.

A red dot , how about painting my roof red , It's not about causing trouble, it's about telling the elected offiicials that yes they are elected and it's time they start acting like it. Be a proud american elected by the people with our best interest at heart. There have been over 2 1/2 million americans that have died for this countries republic.

I respect and honor their death as because of them we are living free today. The least I can do is help remind our elected officials of how we got here , stay the course, and preserve what we have, and the U.S. isn't a fixed slot machine.

[pyrangello]

I want to follow my last post up with my view of the importance of this country , the United States of America. I don't know the # of countries worldwide that recieve aid from us every year but I know that it is alot. And that much of those funds help other countries in so many ways. I also know that because of the success of this country many foundations have been created like the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation that are paying for vaccines in Africa from here in the states. Because of America this is happening.

When that tsunami hit a few years back on the donation list was the United States if I remember right some 40 million donated by our government. Many other countries donated much more money. BUt what didn't get reported was that Americans individual donations totaled 2 BILLION dollars. All of that money made here and donated to people we didn't even know. Why because thats how we are. Because of America this is happening.

This country may only have 200 years + of history but it does stand for freedom, opportunity, and liberty all in one place. Yes we have our problems here just like any other place on earth. But I always remember the one of the last speeches Pres. Bush gave on veterans day( Don't go bashing Bush now) He said " and God Bless our United States Armed Forces as they are the last best hope for freedom on this planet. " We have an all volunteer force. They are the best of the best. And because of America , it is possible to have this dedication by choice.

Whats going on in this country now is just human nature, it's like the children that are playing in the playground and once and a while recess needs to be called off for a reality check. Thats the upcoming tea party on the 15th. Recess is over and its time to get serious.

I am an American , I do love this country and for which it stands. My great Uncle who is still alive fought at pearl harbor when it was attacked. I've met 2 medal of honor reciepients for their valor and courage during there time in the armed forces. There are only 50 alive today that have been presented this award by our president. My girlfriends father was a green beret in vietnam. I have escorted gold star mothers in DC at Rolling Thunder only to here these wives and mothers speak of their loosing their husband or child in a conflict. A wife whose husband flew in vietnam for 8 years as a helicoptor pilot only to be shot down. Why because his country asked him to.

This country stands on many principles, all of which are being challanged now, Religon , A right to bear arms, and are financial problems. Will get thru it as we are persistant and just as giving as we are, we are also vigilant and value our way of life so many more can enjoy the future here and call this home when there is no other place to turn. I fly the flag everyday outside this office and it is always a proud feeling doing so.

This country is worth fighting for and tea party or the later I would hope all of you in the other countries root us on here in america that we do suceed for the good of this planet and a better life for all of us. Together we stand , Divided we fall. Falling is not an option .

[recallone]

Your patriotism is touching, pyrangello and something I used to be able to relate to.
I've always considered myself a patriot and I, too love my country. But this country isn't what it used to be and certainly not what MSM would have you believe it is. There hasn't been a flag in front of my house since I learned the truth about 9/11. I haven't been vaccinated, nor have I allowed my kids to be vaccinated for anything in years. The vaccinations that are provided are to address diseases that were specifically created to do what they're doing. Controlling the population, and creating new problems. You'd have a hard time convincing me that any vaccination is a good thing.

I don't mean to rain on your patriotic parade, but there's too much involved anymore to warrant blind patriotism. Our troops are volunteers, but from what demographic do most of them come from? Poor neighborhoods. Which makes the government even more deplorable in their actions. They've secured more money, control and power that's been paid for by the blood of American patriots. Those soldiers are not actually protecting any of us, but furthering the agenda of those maniacs in power.

I don't know what's going to come of this nation, but I don't have high hopes. I think they're intentionally crashing our system to create the need for a global system, both government and economic. More control.
Lies and deceit are employed to achieve this. I get excited when anybody begins to tear away the layers of programming that fool us into thinking this is a free society. The excuse of it being better than any other country just doesn't cut it anymore. Documentaries like Century of the Self and the latest The Obama Deception are huge in doing so, and hope they gain the kind of attention they deserve. Still, so many Americans (and people worldwide!) are fooled into thinking their government is something its' not.

To be honest, I really don't know what the best steps to take are - other than getting self-sufficient. I don't know how to get these monsters out of power. All I can do is tend to my own vibration and trust that it'll be enough to see my family through, and hopefully influence others to do the same. Whatever steps other people are taking to strip away the layers of programming and deceit and realize their power, I've got to applaud them and trust that we're going to collectively retake the wheel towards a brighter future.

Peace and light.
recallone

[THE eXchanger]

War is big business - and, i am sure, there are many of us,
on planet earth, that have been, directly-or indirectly
involved in wars - if NOT in this lifetime,
in past lifetimes - and, its a total collective consciousness mess !!!

It would be really interesting to audit the tax department

and, to audit, all the companies, that have made a profit from the war

what is the current cost of this war up to ???

why do oil companies make billions in profits quarterly,
and, yet, their customers, don't make that type of ratio in profits ???
(most of us, are lucky to earn 10-15% profit)

let's face it, we've let a small bunch of bullies, become dictators,
& we aren't free - we haven't been free - for a very long time

if you take that figure of the current cost of just the war
and divide by the number of people in the world
we'd all likely be very rich
and, we'd live in peace

you can't create war in the name of peace
and, NOT expect, that, doing so,
in the name of protecting your freedom
is right !!!

war, has karmic implications

income tax - was devised, as, a temporary type of tax

that has gotten way, out of hand !!!

why don't the people speak up, before its too late ???

maybe, each elected congress person,
should stay home; and; fix the communities, they live in
instead of wasting taxpayer money, to fly to dc
and, they should be accountable, for everything they do,
and, have to publically report every nickel, and, dime they spend

the whole thing is way out of control

get elected once, get a pension for life -- that's wrong

esp; when the usa, has over 80% of the people
without free health care -- that issue alone would put
a lot of people, into the work force,
esp; if the health care, included alternative styles
that little thing, would make a huge difference

in the usa; if you get sick - its like your go immediately bankrupt - that's wrong

at least in europe; and; canada - health care, is mostly free

we need to follow the money trail--
as, that, generally will lead you, to who is responsible
perhaps, all the billionaires, in the world
should be stripped of their wealth,
we certainly do know who they are,
we keep records on them

why is it, that we are such a competitive race ???

why is it, that we think we need everything better,
than everyone else ???

why is it, that we will work like dogs, to get stuff ???

is this really what it is, all about ???

i admire you recallone, for NOT getting those vacinations,
that is a huge issue, that is, making our children very sick

if we go back, in the history of america
many of the people,
who have come here, have run from wars in other countries;
or, fear of loss of life, at the hands of the churches,
mostly the catholic church,
esp; back in the 1700's, 1800's, etc.,
and, they came to america, both canada/and, usa
and, other places too; like the carib. islands,
mexico, and, even south america
and, some went to the austr. and nz
to escape, to try to be free men
(many were lead astray, by, the freemasons, etc.,-ironically
at the top, they are owned by the same people, they were running from)
we are forced / and, slammed into systems,
that make us accountable
for everything we do

bottom line is, we are raped to death, by taxes !!!
bottom line is, many of this time of the year, are scrambling
to organise our records
for move accounting !!!

someone is getting rich, and, it certainly isn't us !!!

there is also truth, that, the ills
play both sides of the coin
and, there is a high likeihood
that, these types of things
are put out there, to find out,
just who the people who are rebelling, actually are

do you think, we need to get back to our communities,
and, solve things, at that level ???

it sure is a frustrating world, to live in right now

anyway --you certainly are right !!! it's about time - we do something,
and, it is about time, we act !!!

[dagon]

I think im in. I need to read up on the thread. and see if there is one in northern calif..

thanks for posting.

[recallone]

contempt? Can't speak for HJ, but I can speak for me. I have absolutely no contempt for you as a person.

I have contempt for the political parties that try to manipulate us by being less than truthful about who they are and why are doing what they do. And who try to use language that is scare mongering (what is socialism, BTW, what does it look like on the ground? Nope, it's used as a boogeyman, just the word, to scare people back into line. To make them think it's the first step to communism <G>.) without defining what it means.

Hopes this helps to understand where I"m coming from.
alys

Just to clarify, alyscat - I didn't take your reply as contempt for ME, but for the subject. I wanted to know why. I knew it wasn't personal.
peace

[alyscat]

I'm glad, recallone, that you understood that it wasn't personal.

Most of the tea parties are samples of astroturfing. We've seen a lot of astroturfing done in the political arena in the last decade.


Astroturfing is "The name for mass corporate/political marketing disguised as grassroots efforts by individuals..."

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/09/lobbyists-planning-teaparties/


And if you think that because the article was written by ThnkProgress it might somehow just be "liberal blather" there are links to other, non-liberal articles that show their point.

I'm getting so tired of politics, when I think of how much more important things are coming around the corner that people are not preparing for because they're being distracted by this kind of stuff.

Mark my words, we'll have happy talk in the media for the next 5-6 months, and then it's going to hit the fan. Sol was right. What are YOU (a generic question) doing to prepare?
alys

[recallone]

I'm glad, recallone, that you understood that it wasn't personal....

...Mark my words, we'll have happy talk in the media for the next 5-6 months, and then it's going to hit the fan. Sol was right. What are YOU (a generic question) doing to prepare?
alys

I don't think we've got that much time, alys. I think this summer will begin the re-defining of life in America.

As for preparations...there's no such thing as being over-prepared. My greatest frustration at this point is that even amongst the ranks of those people who consider themselves in the know, very few are actually taking the necessary steps to getting themselves ready. Pooling resources and abilities are important, but so many people are still very much trapped in the me-mine-self mindset rather than a WE SURVIVE mindset.

Thanks for the heads up, by the way about the astroturfing. I've been trying to figure out how some of the MSM puppets are being used in this big chess game (in particular Glenn Beck). When I was presented with a flyer for a local tax party I didn't even stop to consider who or what actually initiated it (at this point, I don't know who's the more diabolical aggressor - our human leaders or the alien races who manipulate them!). Thanks for looking out.

recallone

[Czymra]

Astroturfing is "The name for mass corporate/political marketing disguised as grassroots efforts by individuals..."


Wow, thanks for lending me a word to the concept!

[alyscat]

I actually saw the term on George Ure's urban survival website. And it fit <G>.

Since we all know astroturf is not grass(roots). <G>

Busy day today. I was in Cabelas, looking in the gun department, and there is no 45 ammo available in the state. (was looking for my father).

Interesting area of the store. I knew so very little about what was going on. They were having a big gun sale (and ammo) and the place was jammed.
alys