View Full Version : Mexico City Flu Epidemic Shuts Down Schools.
Dantheman62
04-24-2009, 04:41 PM
Mexico City closed schools across the metropolis of 20 million Friday after at least 16 people died and more than 900 others fall ill from what health officials suspect is a new strain of swine flu. World health officials worried that it could mark the start of a flu pandemic.
The World Health Organization in Geneva, Switzerland said at least 57 have died in the outbreak, although it wasn't yet clear if this larger number of deaths was due to swine flu.
"We are very, very concerned," said Thomas Abraham, a spokesman for the agency. "We have what appears to be a novel virus and it has spread from human to human." If international spread is confirmed, that meets WHO's criteria for raising the pandemic alert level, he added.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/24/mexico-city-flu-epidemic-_n_191021.html
Dantheman62
04-24-2009, 04:43 PM
WHO concerned at new swine flu in U.S.,
GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Health Organization (WHO) voiced concern on Friday at a confirmed outbreak of swine flu in the United States and what it called more than 800 human "influenza-like" cases in Mexico, including about 60 deaths.
The United Nations agency said it had activated its Strategic Health Operations Center (SHOC) -- its command and control center for acute public health events -- but could not say whether it was considering issuing a travel advisory.
U.S. public health officials said on Thursday that seven people had been diagnosed with a new kind of swine flu in California and Texas, while Mexican authorities were due to announce test results later on Friday, WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl said in Geneva.
"We are in daily contact with U.S., Canadian and Mexican authorities," Hartl told Reuters.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that the virus was a never-before-seen mixture of viruses typical among pigs, birds and humans. All 7 American patients had recovered.
http://health.yahoo.com/news/reuters/us_flu.html
chitty
04-24-2009, 05:23 PM
Hey Dan, Canada is on alert as well. Last I heard about an hour ago was it was a human/swine/unknown virus cross. This was on cbc newsworld. cbc.ca I am now hearing 900 people infected and a few in Texas. 20 some dead and from what I hear, all males between 25 and 39??:trumpet::mfr_omg:
pyrangello
04-24-2009, 06:21 PM
They have been updating all day on the drudge report, mexico is now probing another 50 deaths. Give it a day or 2 . If this thing takes off god forbid your gonna want to hit the grocery stores in a short period of time. I wouldn't jump yet just stay educated here and on other sites.
Northern Boy
04-24-2009, 11:30 PM
Hey Dan, Canada is on alert as well. Last I heard about an hour ago was it was a human/swine/unknown virus cross. This was on cbc newsworld. cbc.ca I am now hearing 900 people infected and a few in Texas. 20 some dead and from what I hear, all males between 25 and 39??:trumpet::mfr_omg:
There are some reported cases in the North Bay Ontario region if you look at the age group and compare it to the Spanish flu it is very similar. What are the chances of these three strains combining and mutating to form a new strain ?
Lorien
04-25-2009, 12:35 AM
"Mexico flu deaths raise fears of global epidemic:
Unique virus connected to cases in Calif. and Texas; source still a mystery"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30386163
peaceandlove
04-25-2009, 01:09 AM
This posted on youtube 47 minutes ago. I guess the game is on!
Swine Flu - CDC says too late to contain U.S. outbreak - Protect yourself and others - Please Share!
CNN Reports
Video (5:14): YouTube - Swine Flu - CDC says too late to contain U.S. outbreak - Protect yourself and others - Please Share!
Wow, I didn't know videos would open in the posts. Is that new?
Iceman
04-25-2009, 02:53 AM
No human swine flu in Canada, says health minister
Canada's health minister says that a human swine influenza outbreak which may have killed up to 63 people in Mexico poses "no immediate threats to Canadians at this time."
here is the link http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/home/contentposting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V3&showbyline=True&date=true&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20090424%2fflus_090424
chitty
04-25-2009, 03:26 AM
Reminds me chillingly:sad: Chuck Heston said it in "PLANET OF THE APES" "DAMN THEM:tears: DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL"
DEPOPULATION ON THE WAY FOLKS.
WORRIED FOR US ALL:mfr_omg:
cbc national news, right now!!!!
DoctorWho
04-25-2009, 05:28 AM
Right now it's around the southern borders of California and Texas. It's the new killer bees!
Bill "the Doctor"
Jacqui D
04-25-2009, 10:55 AM
Nothing has been reported about any cases here in the UK yet, :mfr_omg: i hope what we have all been reading about for months now does not happen, i guess if you haven't stored up yet on those necessities now would be a good time.
Most potent in crowds they say, is it airbourne spread not sure about that one perhaps someone can let me know.
This was on for the UK, i'm sure i read this just a few weeks ago.
My thoughts go out to those poor people, we have had earth quakes of late now this their certainly stepping up the anti.
pyrangello
04-25-2009, 02:37 PM
I'm not a doctor, this is just my opinion. If you look at the history of the 1918 avian flu I believe it started with a group of soldiers getting vaccinations then being transported to spain on a boat, getting sick going over from the vaccination passing it back and forth, when they got to spain they already had a highly contagious form of a flu strain and then ended up getting another strain that combined with the vaccinated strain. That was the beginning and end of over 40 milllion people including my great grandfathers first wife and 2 children. Influenza of 1918.
Hypothetically speaking if this swine flu hangs around long enough til this fall , makes its way around the globe over to asia in a few months then combines with the H5N1 bird flu, would it be a good educated guess of the launch of another pandemic, a very bad one with a 40-50% fatality rate?
The bird flu in asia is at 60% fatal now, only a few hundred people have contracted it . Can I get some chiming in from the Avalon Ground Crew on this theory. Punch holes in it or correct me please.
Here's a good prepardness site 4 lab techs put this together years ago and it's worth checking periodically and a good guide to plan. www.planforflu.com/home
David
04-25-2009, 02:49 PM
Swine Influenza: General Information
http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/general_info.htm
Northern Boy
04-25-2009, 03:12 PM
I'm not a doctor, this is just my opinion. If you look at the history of the 1918 avian flu I believe it started with a group of soldiers getting vaccinations then being transported to spain on a boat, getting sick going over from the vaccination passing it back and forth, when they got to spain they already had a highly contagious form of a flu strain and then ended up getting another strain that combined with the vaccinated strain. That was the beginning and end of over 40 milllion people including my great grandfathers first wife and 2 children. Influenza of 1918.
Hypothetically speaking if this swine flu hangs around long enough til this fall , makes its way around the globe over to asia in a few months then combines with the H5N1 bird flu, would it be a good educated guess of the launch of another pandemic, a very bad one with a 40-50% fatality rate?
The bird flu in asia is at 60% fatal now, only a few hundred people have contracted it . Can I get some chiming in from the Avalon Ground Crew on this theory. Punch holes in it or correct me please.
Here's a good prepardness site 4 lab techs put this together years ago and it's worth checking periodically and a good guide to plan. www.planforflu.com/home
don`t forget that in 1918 the simulated mustard gas attacks by the troops sergeants while they were sleeping assisted in that flu mutating to its deadly form the fact that they were crammed into ships and later barracks kept them in close quarters with one another . We need to watch out for sudden activity on usually quiet Fema camps and forced innoculations which there should be none of as this flu is a combination of swine ,bird and human flu bugs so there will be no vaccines for this type of flu and if they tell you they have one ask to see the clinical trails for it.
WiNaDeYo
04-25-2009, 04:00 PM
Take a look at this, folks, and read through all the reports! Please read them all and keep updated!
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?glide=EP-20090424-21403-MEX&cat=dis&lang=eng
News breaker! It might be in NY, too!
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?glide=EP-20090421-21366-USA&cat=dis&lang=eng
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=21414&lang=eng
alyscat
04-25-2009, 04:52 PM
Well, forecasters had projected a serious outbreak of flu, and we know that it does tend to be worse in the winter than the spring, and that they make the flu meds based on the last form of it to go around in the spring.
This may be why I read somewhere that there were many more eggs being sent to the various pharmaceutical houses to make the meds (not getting into the more conspiracy aspects of it here) - I read that first, say a week ago, and now we're getting this. It may well be that the CDC and whoever follows the "flu reports" knew this was coming a week or 2 ago and started prepping now for the fall.
alys
oldpaganfreak
04-25-2009, 04:56 PM
Well, forecasters had projected a serious outbreak of flu, and we know that it does tend to be worse in the winter than the spring, and that they make the flu meds based on the last form of it to go around in the spring.
This may be why I read somewhere that there were many more eggs being sent to the various pharmaceutical houses to make the meds (not getting into the more conspiracy aspects of it here) - I read that first, say a week ago, and now we're getting this. It may well be that the CDC and whoever follows the "flu reports" knew this was coming a week or 2 ago and started prepping now for the fall.
alys
i, for one, will not be getting asny more flu shots. i've only had two and they did nothing. but, i'll not trust them again.
Paramartasaya
04-25-2009, 06:16 PM
Take a look on this threads and connect the dots:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13242
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13352
viking
04-25-2009, 08:11 PM
An excuse for Martial Law??... Just recieved this update from 'Earth Changes'.
Brace yourself. Be aware.
A swine flu pandemic - which means a global spread of the disease - may be under way right now.
The virus variant is a mixture of pig human and bird strains, and there is no known vaccine.
Mexico City, with a population of 20 million, has been virtually shut down because at least 20 people have died there so far.
More than 1000 are reported sick and over 2000 others have called special hot lines to say they suspect they have the swine flu.
Elsewhere in Mexico almost 50 other deaths are linked to the swine flu strain.
At least eight people in California and Texas have contracted the disease, but no deaths have yet been publicly reported in the United States.
..............
MK Notes: It's reasonable to assume that there are controls over what is publicly reported. There will be a difference between the numbers we're told, and the truth.
Do not expect anyone to tell us where this swine flu strain - a mixture of human, pig and bird viruses - was manufactured. We'll only be told that the viruses themselves mutated - which they can do with incredible speed. That's why flu shots are useless against new strains of flu.
However the important thing here is to consider one's personal situation and state of readiness in case this swine flu reaches your environment.
People in Mexico City who are still out and about, are wearing masks.
( flu masks available here)
The disease is no doubt incubating right now among people who have left Mexico to many destinations around the world.
Perhaps it would be very wise to avoid air travel as well, since planes are wonderful disease-spreading capsules.
Airlines do not sterilise any of those pillows and rugs that passengers get to use - and on a Jumbo jet you're breathing the same circulating air as 300 other people. That's much worse than being at the mall....which would also be a place to avoid.
Since there is no known antidote or vaccine to handle this strain, and if it does become a pandemic, then martial law is a possibility.
Other options would be to go as far as placing whole neighborhoods and possibly even entire cities in quarantine or under curfew.
If this does spread - as previous pandemics have done - then hospitals will soon be overwhelmed so you may have to care for yourself - or family members - at home.
Are you prepared for that?
It's not that this flu strain actually kills everybody who gets infected.
But it does kill some - and the numbers so far suggest that it kills at least 60 out of 1000.
That's six out of 100. Which is approximately one in 20.
Those numbers are based only on publicly available information and used simply to try and understand whether or not this swine flu is really something to worry about.
If they can close down a city of 20 million and convene a WHO meeting, and worry about it becoming a pandemic, then common sense says it is).
If you're sick, or quarantined and not allowed out...do you have what you need on hand to eat, drink and be not so merry?
Take this as information only - be aware that there may still be ample time for you to decide what precautions you need to take.
Regardless of how this swine flu thing and Earth Changes might play out, good health is important to all of us.
So it's a sad thing to get an email advising that yet another family member has succumbed to cancer...especially when a brother and sister and a dear friend are also undergoing chemotherapy.
Makes one wonder how many other people might have the same issues, either personally, or within their own family and circle of friends.
Which is why this issue includes some health-related information, including the above links to a new video and book on "the one minute cure..."
Some products that have been around too long for the pharmaceutical companies to get a headlock on do indeed have remarkable properties.
If this one works against viruses (which would include swine flu) and cancer, then it just might be an absolute boon - but that's my opinion, not advice.
viking
burgundia
04-25-2009, 09:37 PM
they have announced that the virus can't be stopped.
They are now saying it could have arrived in the UK and that Tamiflu and Relenza are effective. Link to article below:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1173263/Pandemic-warning-BA-crew-member-Mexico-flight-rushed-hospital-68-die-swine-flu-outbreak-Cases-spread-U-S.html
alyscat
04-25-2009, 09:59 PM
Yeah, now might be a good time to buy stock in Roche :mfr_lol:
alys
BROOK
04-25-2009, 10:08 PM
i, for one, will not be getting asny more flu shots. i've only had two and they did nothing. but, i'll not trust them again.
Me either :mfr_omg: I saw a co worker who got one and hours later fainted and got deathly ill for days :nono:
Me either :mfr_omg: I saw a co worker who got one and hours later fainted and got deathly ill for days :nono:
Me neither, would MMS be any good for this virus?
BROOK
04-25-2009, 10:19 PM
Don't know...but It probably would help...Kills pathogins..hope I spelled that correctly :lmfao:
Karen
04-25-2009, 10:21 PM
Mutating virus - right - in a bioweapons lab.
Karen
04-25-2009, 11:00 PM
Taking aspirin or something to lower the fever when you have the flu is a very bad idea.
The fever (as long as it's not really high) is there to contain and kill the virus.
quote from:
http://proliberty.com/observer/20051017.htm
Homeopathy also gained quite a reputation during the 1918 flu pandemic. Raymond Seidel, HMD (homeopathic medical doctor), decided to be a homeopathic doctor during the 1918 flu epidemic when he was a 10-year-old delivery boy for a local homeopath. He said, "I saw that the people who were taking aspirin were dying, about half those who were drinking a lot were dying, and those that received homeopathic remedies were living."
another quote:
In Julian Winston’s article, Influenza-1918: Homeopathy to the Rescue (The New England Journal of Homeopathy, Vol. 7, No. 1, 1998), he noted that most of the deaths were caused by a virulent pneumonia that was especially devastating to those who depressed their system with analgesics, especially aspirin. The following citations from his article prove this point:
Three hundred and fifty cases and lost one, a neglected pneumonia that came to me after she had taken one hundred grains of aspirin in twenty-four hours. ~Cora Smith King, MD, Washington, DC
I had a package handed to me containing 1,000 aspirin tablets, which was 994 too many. I think I gave about a half dozen. I could find no place for it. My remedies were few. I almost invariably gave Gelsemium and Bryonia. I hardly ever lost a case if I got there first, unless the patient had been sent to a drug store and bought aspirin, in which event I was likely to have a case of pneumonia on my hands. ~J. P. Huff, MD, Olive Branch, Kentucky
One physician in a Pittsburgh hospital asked a nurse if she knew anything better than what he was doing, because he was losing many cases. "Yes, Doctor, stop aspirin and go down to a homeopathic pharmacy, and get homeopathic remedies." The Doctor replied: "But that is homeopathy." "I know it, but the homeopathic doctors for whom I have nursed have not lost a single case." ~W. F. Edmundson, MD, Pittsburgh
There is one drug which directly or indirectly was the cause of the loss of more lives than was influenza itself. You all know that drug. It claims to be salicylic acid. Aspirin’s history has been printed. Today you don’t know what the sedative action of salicylic acid is. It did harm in two ways. It’s indirect action came through the fact that aspirin was taken until prostration resulted and the patient developed pneumonia. ~Frank L. Newton, MD, Somerville, Massachusetts
Aspirin and the other coal tar products are condemned as causing great numbers of unnecessary deaths. The omnipresent aspirin is the most pernicious drug of all. It beguiles by its quick action of relief of pain, a relief which is but meretricious. In several cases aspirin weakened the heart, depressed the vital forces, increased the mortality in mild cases and made convalescence slower. In all cases it masks the symptoms and renders immeasurably more difficult the selection of the curative remedy. Apparently aspirin bears no curative relation to any disease and it ought to be prohibited. ~Guy Beckly Stearns, MD, New York
By doing a bit of research into books and periodicals from the 1918 flu pandemic era, it is clear that allopathic "cures" were deadlier than the disease itself. Many homeopaths, autologists and other "drugless" doctors understood that the blood was the life force of the body and its purity was a barometer of health as well as an indicator of disease susceptibility. They also witnessed that the poisoning of the blood via yellow fever, typhoid and smallpox vaccinations was the prerequisite condition for contracting the "Spanish" flu. But even then, the flu itself was not a death sentence. The deaths occurred among those who stifled their body’s attempts to heal itself by taking allopathic potions such as aspirin and other inappropriate treatments.
David
04-25-2009, 11:23 PM
CNN 'The situation is fluid'
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2009/04/25/sot.ny.swine.flu.presser.cnn
recallone
04-26-2009, 12:05 AM
They are now saying it could have arrived in the UK and that Tamiflu and Relenza are effective. Link to article below:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1173263/Pandemic-warning-BA-crew-member-Mexico-flight-rushed-hospital-68-die-swine-flu-outbreak-Cases-spread-U-S.html
Please see these videos:
Caution on Neuropsychiatric Events with Tamiflu
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JGh8SJk3o4&feature=related)
YouTube - UPDATE IN MORE INFO: MARCH 09
The things they're offering to "protect you" from, or "vaccinate against" are the very things necessary to deliver the maximum damage. When I heard they were recommending Tamiflu, my wife and I just looked at each other. We already knew this was gasoline to the fire. Homeopathic remedies, Vitamin C, and colloidal silver are your best methods of protection and prevention, I think.
Karen
04-26-2009, 01:05 AM
I figured Dr. Deagle would jump on this one.
This was yesterday ...
Sorry for the all caps - just copying from
http://clayandiron.com/
04/24/09 - NUTRIMEDICAL REPORT SHOW -- FRIDAY, APRIL 24TH 2009 -- HOUR ONE HOT NEWS SPECIAL -- PANDEMIC FLU ?? H1N1 MEXICO CITY, EARLY SPREAD TO CALIFORNIA AND TEXAS -- FREEMAN, DR OTT, ALEXANDER S JONES -- MANUFACTURED H1N1 TO RECOMBINE IN WAVES WITH H5N1 IN THE WILD !!
Archive link:
http://gcnlive.com/Arc-Dir/Nutrimedical/
http://gcnlive.com/Archives2009/apr09/Nutrimedical/0424091.mp3
!! LISTEN AT 9 PM PST TONIGHT ON RENSERADIO.COM HOUR THREE INTERVIEW OF DR BILL ON H1N1 FLU OUTBREAK IN MEXICO, TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA !! NASCENT FLU PANDEMIC FIRST WAVE !!
Check out the current Dees Illustration (syringe, Fema truck and lots more)
http://rense.com/
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McMaster
04-26-2009, 03:03 AM
I think they are trying to mutate this original H1N1 now spreading and H5N1 which is supplied in Tamiflu and other vaccines supplied around the world, as European case proved.
alyscat
04-26-2009, 03:07 AM
Oh, goodness, you don't think it's a case of that man falling out of the airplane and landing on the flying pig who lands on the birds and they're all sick??? NOT
sure sounds manufactured to me.
alys
BROOK
04-26-2009, 03:20 AM
Karen,
Thanks for the advise about the Asprin...that could be the difference between life and death :thumb_yello:
Good information here guys....it's important to be informed :thumb_yello:
bushycat
04-26-2009, 03:46 AM
In addition to vitamin C and colloidal silver, zinc is good. Vit. C/zinc lozenges can be sucked and help in the throat. Watch dosage, especially for children. Olive leaf extract is good also.
Aloha, bushycat
Humble Janitor
04-26-2009, 04:54 AM
I'm not worried. These ****ers aren't crafty enough. I've been through enough nasty **** to know. I just got over a horrible virus.
They'll never succeed with their attempt at bio-genocide.
Mark my words.
Surial
04-26-2009, 03:14 PM
The media promotes FEAR. You will notice key words like, "the fear grows." This is a strategy tactic to escalate panic. This distracts you from other things going behind the scenes that the PTB do not want you to know about.
People get sick with the FLU everyday. Many reports of sickness are not reported. But now that the Swine Flu has hit the headlines more cases will be researched and will be made public.
However, a common cold or a flu strand is the most common sickness in the world. While you read these headlines, do not get sucked in to the fear game. It is the oldest strategy there is to distract you. And if a huge pig flu does spiral out of control, then so be it. Either way, I do not like how the media handles it.
In the mean time, Planet X is looming around the corner. I would choose the Flu instead of a 600 foot high tsunami any day.
oldpaganfreak
04-26-2009, 03:51 PM
I would choose the Flu instead of a 600 foot high tsunami any day.
one can move away from the coast in the case of a tsunami.
pretty hard to outrun a pandemic. i'd opt for the tsunami, personally.
(i live inland, on the other side of the rockies from the pacific)
waitinginthewings
04-26-2009, 05:38 PM
What the Mexicans are saying about how things really are in their country:
Page last updated at 10:30 GMT, Sunday, 26 April 2009 11:30 UK
Mexico flu: Your experiences
Mexico City residents leave a clinic wearing protective masks
Mexico City residents are being told to wear protective masks
Readers in Mexico have been emailing the BBC describing the sense of fear gripping the country as a result of a flu virus outbreak, which has so far claimed more than 80 lives.
The World Health Organization says the virus has the potential to become a pandemic.
Read a selection of BBC readers' comments below.:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm
burgundia
04-26-2009, 05:46 PM
the thing is that being overwhelmed with fear is not going to help. Au contraire.
But for now so much of that fear energy has been changed to food for some....
BROOK
04-26-2009, 05:50 PM
I have to admit...living in California...I'm a little worried :shocked:
Between the video of the woman telling about the trucks shipping Avain flu all over the US..and this...it's something to worry about.
Seems their plans for Martial law is getting ramped up? What a great excuse for it :wall:
Paramartasaya
04-26-2009, 06:05 PM
"Listen guys. This is the big one. As a micro/ molecular biologist for one of the largest biotech firms in the world, I feel pretty confident in sending a warning to anyone who will listen.
Avoid, avoid, avoid largely populated areas. (large cities, malls, clubs etc.)
Remember or ever heard of the Spanish flu that killed nearly half a million americans in 1918? It was the last large epidemic of the swine flu. Swine flu is far WORSE than bird flu as it can be passed person to person by the respiratory pathway. This thing is going to spread like WILDFIRE. The only hope we have, as a whole human race, is the fact that its been discovered in semi-remote areas, and not somewhere like NY or LA.
Three- four months ago everyone at my place of work received epidemic flu preparation pamphlets that basically detailed what to do when this does happen. (so they knew it was coming).
The outbreak itself is not the bad part here guys. H1N1 is only one of three major types of swine flu. Usually these three types fall into either Flu A or Flu C... but I have heard through the grapevine that this mutated strain will be falling into the Flu B category for the first time in the Swine Flu history. What does this mean for you and I, were all #ed. Thats exactly what it means.
According to the CDC, you need to start preparing, here is what they suggest:
_discourage large gatherings. Schools and businesses will close, sporting events could be canceled and transportation limited.
-Hospitals will be overloaded and doctors and nurses WILL BE SICK. Be prepared to be cared for in your own home.
-Stock a one week supply of food, water and medicines
---Drinking Water
---Non-perishables
---First Aid
---battery powered radio, generator etc
Each one of your states should already have a pandemic flu plan (no joke, they knew it was REALLY coming) and a pandemic flu site. If they do not, you can go to ohiopandemicflu.gov and check it out.
I am not joking here people. Millions of us are about to die. Millions. Will it be you? Someone you love? Its time to start taking the steps to ensure you have a future on this earth.
Your saying to yourself, its 7 cases in texas and mexico... I live in NY, its never going to spread this far that fast. WRONG. So very wrong. With today's modern transportation, coupled with incubation times of the swine flu. It already probably is in NY, and LA, and europe. BC those 7 people DEFINITELY DEFINITELY DEFINITELY made contact with roughly 100 people a day while they were incubating and unaware of symptoms for 3-7 days! Some of those people travel, and with the speed of modern transportation, spread it to another 300-400 people while still incubating.
Listen, people you know and love are most likely already infected. Its time to start thinking about yourself, and your immediate loved ones. I do not want to be a harbinger of death on these boards, but it really is time. This is the big one. Don't be caught with your dick in your hands. "
oldpaganfreak
04-26-2009, 06:16 PM
now that's scary sh*t!!!
waitinginthewings
04-26-2009, 06:48 PM
Your saying to yourself, its 7 cases in texas and mexico... I live in NY, its never going to spread this far that fast. WRONG. So very wrong. With today's modern transportation, coupled with incubation times of the swine flu. It already probably is in NY, and LA, and europe. BC those 7 people DEFINITELY DEFINITELY DEFINITELY made contact with roughly 100 people a day while they were incubating and unaware of symptoms for 3-7 days! Some of those people travel, and with the speed of modern transportation, spread it to another 300-400 people while still incubating.
Para: its already in NY and is spreading to other countries also....just read about some cases in Scotland.
oldpaganfreak
04-26-2009, 06:56 PM
Para: its already in NY and is spreading to other countries also....just read about some cases in Scotland.
noon cbc news reported 10 case in canada. 8 in b.c.
burgundia
04-26-2009, 06:58 PM
I guess they planted the virus in many different places....
Steve_G
04-26-2009, 06:58 PM
Just a few thoughts, and not in any way meant to diminish how serious this might be....
In 2001 the Disclosure Project was gaining a lot of political/media momentum. When the false-flag 9/11 event took place it was pushed aside and largely forgotten.
Now we've just had what amounts to an ultimatum delivered by the Press Conference of the Paradigm Research Group giving Obama roughly 30 days to begin the disclosure process. All of a sudden we have these news stories of an outbreak and possible pandemic of pig flu popping up out of nowhere. If it does happen I guess we can wave goodbye to disclosure again.
Quite a coincidence.
One final thing. All the hype was about bird flu, now suddenly it's swine flu. If we put the two together, don't we have flying pigs?
waitinginthewings
04-26-2009, 07:03 PM
Steve: "One final thing. All the hype was about bird flu, now suddenly it's swine flu. If we put the two together, don't we have flying pigs" Good one:naughty:
Christo888
04-26-2009, 07:09 PM
Just a few thoughts, and not in any way meant to diminish how serious this might be....
In 2001 the Disclosure Project was gaining a lot of political/media momentum. When the false-flag 9/11 event took place it was pushed aside and largely forgotten.
Now we've just had what amounts to an ultimatum delivered by the Press Conference of the Paradigm Research Group giving Obama roughly 30 days to begin the disclosure process. All of a sudden we have these news stories of an outbreak and possible pandemic of pig flu popping up out of nowhere. If it does happen I guess we can wave goodbye to disclosure again.
Quite a coincidence.
One final thing. All the hype was about bird flu, now suddenly it's swine flu. If we put the two together, don't we have flying pigs?
I guess when "pigs fly" would certainly seem like a well coded message in plain site!!!
Go back in time and see how many references to flying pigs were depicted in advertisements and/graphics and see what companys were portraying the graphics or sayings... progress reports perhaps!:wink2:
I also wonder if putting "lipstick on a pig" marked the final completion of combining the strains into one!!!
WiNaDeYo
04-26-2009, 07:16 PM
Thank-you Paramartasaya, for your insider's info...keep us informed.
I know that many of us here can give good advice on how to avoid, prevent and cure flu symptoms. The forum has many threads on those topics. Maybe we could dig those threads out of the dust...???
We all should take a look at the Avalon Library for helpful downloads on epidemics. I seem to remember that there are some goodies there.
Peace and Good Will!
Humble Janitor
04-26-2009, 07:37 PM
I'm not surprised that they're recommending the flu vaccine. Business is about to pick up.
WiNaDeYo
04-26-2009, 09:48 PM
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=332857&CategoryId=12395
Spain Reveals 3 Suspected Swine Flu Cases
MADRID -- The Health Ministry has detected three suspected cases of swine flu in Spain in people who have returned from Mexico in recent days, Health Minister Trinidad Jimenez said Sunday.
One of the three cases of people with flu symptoms was detected Saturday night and the other two on Sunday morning in the cities of Almansa, Bilbao and Valencia, where the three people remain hospitalized, although "none of them are in serious condition."
The three are being tested and it will not be possible for 48 hours to determine conclusively whether they are suffering from the A/H1N1 virus, Jimenez said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/26/flu-pandemic-mexico
Mexican swine flu deaths spark worldwide action
WHO says virus has killed 81 people in Mexico as US declares public health emergency and travellers' illnesses prompt concern in Europe and New Zealand
The minister made the announcement at a press conference after a working meeting at the ministry to analyze the swine flu outbreak in humans in Mexico and the United States.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6173927.ece
Americans told to wear masks as swine flu spreads round globe
Doctors in America are advising worried patients to buy painters’ masks as a precaution against the global outbreak of swine flu that appears to have spread from Mexico to the United States, New Zealand and possibly Europe.
Dantheman62
04-26-2009, 09:51 PM
WASHINGTON – The U.S. declared a public health emergency Sunday to deal with the emerging new swine flu, much like the government does to prepare for approaching hurricanes.
Officials reported 20 U.S. cases of swine flu in five states so far, with the latest in Ohio and New York. Unlike in Mexico where the same strain appears to be killing dozens of people, cases in the United State have been mild — and U.S. health authorities can't yet explain why.
"As we continue to look for cases, we are going to see a broader spectrum of disease," predicted Dr. Richard Besser, acting chief of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "We're going to see more severe disease in this country."
At a White House news conference, Besser and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano sought to assure Americans that health officials are taking all appropriate steps to minimize the impact of the outbreak.
Top among those is declaring the public health emergency. As part of that, Napolitano said roughly 12 million doses of the drug Tamiflu will be moved from a federal stockpile to places where states can quickly get their share if they decide they need it. Priority will be given to the five states with known cases so far: California, Texas, New York, Ohio and Kansas.
Napolitano called the emergency declaration standard operating procedure — one was declared recently for the inauguration and for flooding. She urged people to think of it as a "declaration of emergency preparedness."
"Really that's what we're doing right now. We're preparing in an environment where we really don't know ultimately what the size of seriousness of this outbreak is going to be."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_swine_flu_emergency
WiNaDeYo
04-26-2009, 09:57 PM
GOOGLE MAP OF SWINE FLU OUTBREAKS
H1N1 Swine Flu
H1N1 Swine flu in 2009
Pink markers are suspect
Purple markers are confirmed
Deaths lack a dot in marker
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&z=5);
Anchor
04-26-2009, 11:15 PM
Everybody go back and re-read Humble Janitors comment. (#35 in this thread) http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=132279&postcount=35
This is an example of a the good attitude IMHO.
This "flu" outbreak is a fear-mongers wet dream. I am not denying the reality of it, nor am I stupid enough to think that this may not be an game over scenario for many, but what is really important to realize is that fear and stress WILL compromise your immune system and make things worse.
Fear is as infectious as the flu.
Instead make a CHOICE.
Choose to radiate the healing power which is the love and the light.
A..
Humble Janitor
04-27-2009, 01:44 AM
I'm not sure how to prepare for something like this but I'm not discounting it either.
My attitude stays the same though
David
04-27-2009, 01:53 AM
Continue as you have been. That is all a person can do.
peaceandlove
04-27-2009, 04:04 AM
Me neither, would MMS be any good for this virus?
Yes, Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS) kills all pathogens, without destroying the friendly bacteria.
MMS can also purify water, 1 or 2 activated drops per gallon.
(Washing Fruits and Vegetables under Water Purification)
Miracle Mineral Solution Thread on Pathogens
PATHOGENS: What are they?
A wide range of germs, parasites, and other unwanted organisms can enter the human body where they attempt to grow, reproduce, and wreck havoc by triggering dozens of defensive responses from the immune system.
We feel a cold coming on because the gold germ was observed by the immune system. To retaliate against the invading pathogen, histamine is produced and body temperature is raised in hope that this unwanted virus or bacteria may give up and die from the extra heat.
If immunity has been weakened, the invading germ multiplies and enjoys a cozy host, drawing free nutrients and taking over without pity. We say we've got a cold, or pneumonia, or bronchitus, or sticky phlem, or runny noses.
"PATHOGEN" is a general term similar to "germ" referring to any agent causing disease.
Usually a living microorganism.
Capable of producing infection.
Poisons like Arsenic would be excluded.
MMS Mineral Drops when used as directed, are claimed to destroy virtually all the pathogens listed below except for the "Proteen Pathogens" where 8 to 10 years of observational-testing may be required.
VIRUSES: Multi-celled but can only reproduce inside a plant, animal or person.
Hepatitis, Herpes, Mono, Warts, Chicken Pox, Small Pox, Bird Flue H5N1, Norovirus, Yellow Fever, Ebola Hemmorhagic Fever, SARS, AIDS, HIV, Influenza, Cold Sores, Cold Germs, Measles, Tetanus, Typhoid
BACTERIA: Tiny one-celled creatures. Can live inside or outside the body.
Tuberculosis, Anthrax, Staph, E.Coli, Typhoid, Salmonella, Morgellons ?, Pneumonia, Urinary Tract Infection, Peritonitis, Strep Throat, Stomach Ulcers, Tularemia, Lyme Disease
FUNGI: Multi-celled but plant-like similar to tree fungus. Takes nutrition from a plant, tree or animal.
Ringworm, Ady Pneumonia, Candidiasis, Yeast Infection, Histoplasmosis, Cryptococcosis
PROTOZOA: One-celled creatures. Usually spread through water.
Malaria, Chagas Disease, Giardiasis, Cryptosporidiosis
PARASITES: Actual complex living organism. Can live in intestinal tract or blood stream.
Round Worm, Tape Worm, Triginosis, Morgellons ?
PROTEIN: Multi-celled but can only reproduce inside a plant, animal or person.
BSE Mad Cow Disease, vCJD Disease
Incomplete list gathered from various medical books.
Diabetes is not on the list because it's not caused by a pathogen.
That would be a case of glands that no longer produce adequate insulin - a mal-functioning body part that MMS may improve but cannot restore. MMS has provided unusual improvements in diabetic persons, possibly because irritation of the pancreas is eliminated, or because the liver is cleansed to perform its functions more normally.
FREE Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's book:
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download.
Low cost shipping rates, include worldwide.
Miracle Mineral Solution Thread on Water Purification, Fruit and Vegetable Wash.
To Purify Water (including tap water):
One drop of MMS in one gallon of water (with appropriate amount of activator) will remove fluoride, heavy metals, and pathogens from the water. The water will be odor free and drinkable within two or three minutes after mixing.
This drinking water has no health benefits except that heavy metals and bacteria were removed from the water. The gas sacrifices itself and reverts to become a few molecules of water. The gas disappears. JH
Further Notes: In an emergency if you don't have an activator available, you can add inactivated MMS at night and let it sit overnight. The water will activate the MMS slowly over several hours. Again, only 1 drop of MMS per gallon for drinking water is necessary.
For washing fruits and vegetables, use 50 drops of MMS per gallon of water and 250 drops (3 teaspoons) of 10% citric acid solution. Be sure to mix them in a separate, clean glass and wait 3 minutes before putting into the gallon of water. Place the vegetables in the sink, pour the gallon of activated MMS water over them and let sit for a few minutes. Rinse well. This should remove bacteria and help extend the life a little longer.
We emphasize the use of an activator, primarily 10% citric acid solution. If you don't activate the MMS as guided, you will not get the results you want.
Even if you were forced to take the vaccination, I would have the MMS on hand to detox the vaccination back out of the system.
I'm not sure if there was a micro-chip in the vaccination that it would purge that from the body.
You might consider starting the protocol to strengthen your immune system prior to any potential exposure to the viral strain.
This website has a reasonable price with low cost shipping, including worldwide.
$28 - $30 including shipping is a small price to pay to have the MMS and Citric Acid activator in your emergency supplies.
MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged with the utmost attention to safety and quality. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending to clients or customers.
Packaged in dark bottles, sealed and the better dropper tops that don't allow extra drops to come out and do not crystallize at the opening.
Jim Humble Approved: http://mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing
Surial
04-27-2009, 04:21 AM
According to the map above, it looks quite geometric in the outbreaks. Somewhat triangular. There was talk about a bird flu and now we have swine? Did the birds poop on the pigs? lol
This flu talk is fear.
Wormhole
04-27-2009, 04:52 AM
I find it interesting that we will never see a body, a name, or a face of any of these alleged victims. I also find it interesting that only the cases in Mexico are fatal and not anyone else from any other place has had more then a nasty cold.
Sorry, but this smacks of a social experiment. Let's see how far they will take it... without even a body to prove it. I personally think this is a crock and I will not feel otherwise until it can be proven. Right now all we have is a busy media and our world Governments testing out their control. Watch out!!!
How do you control an entire world without firing a gun? Fear. No flu shot for me thank you. Last time I had one I contracted pneumonia.
If this is a reality, well I will stand corrected when I see it. Right now all I see is spin.
Peace of Mind,
Wormhole
BROOK
04-27-2009, 07:56 AM
I find it interesting that we will never see a body, a name, or a face of any of these alleged victims. I also find it interesting that only the cases in Mexico are fatal and not anyone else from any other place has had more then a nasty cold.
Sorry, but this smacks of a social experiment. Let's see how far they will take it... without even a body to prove it. I personally think this is a crock and I will not feel otherwise until it can be proven. Right now all we have is a busy media and our world Governments testing out their control. Watch out!!!
How do you control an entire world without firing a gun? Fear. No flu shot for me thank you. Last time I had one I contracted pneumonia.
If this is a reality, well I will stand corrected when I see it. Right now all I see is spin.
Peace of Mind,
Wormhole
Good point....they are feeding on the fear :thumb_yello: But it's the fear that they will play on :mfr_omg: I see them using the fear to
bring out the virus they've created in the flu shots..that will kill us if we let them...I for one don't plan on letting them have their chance! Not if I can help it
burgundia
04-27-2009, 08:04 AM
envision yourself in a protective violet light, shaped like an egg, with outer mirror surface which would reflect all the "bad" stuff. Like advised by S.Swerdlow. or you can use gold light, which, according to him, is the best for the physical plane.
You can also do it for your loved ones.
Paramartasaya
04-27-2009, 08:56 AM
Two separate people from mexico emailing the BBC have said the fatality rate is around 200 , not 20 or 60 or whatever else is being stated
"I work as a resident doctor in one of the biggest hospitals in Mexico City and sadly, the situation is far from "under control". As a doctor, I realise that the media does not report the truth. Authorities distributed vaccines among all the medical personnel with no results, because two of my partners who worked in this hospital (interns) were killed by this new virus in less than six days even though they were vaccinated as all of us were. The official number of deaths is 20, nevertheless, the true number of victims are more than 200. I understand that we must avoid to panic, but telling the truth it might be better now to prevent and avoid more deaths. "
We know the vaccines will never work!!!!!!!
Why the governments doesn't close the airports?
Read more comments from people in Mexico
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm
Jacqui D
04-27-2009, 12:04 PM
Two in Uk apparently in Scotland, well i said previously that there had been nothing reported in the Uk yet, but news over the weekend has now admitted these two people.
I remember back last November it was Sol i think who gave evidence that he had seen papers of such relating to emergency powers been given to hospitals in case of a pandemic situation.
They have been training for such a scenario for a while now, is this the real one or are we being tested to see how we react.
With these cases becoming more around the globe i'm beginning to wonder if it is for real.
As was said before no sign of bodies that's slightly curious we will have to see how this pans out, but as before folks stock up be prepared for curfew situations.
I think we are all well equiped for this scenario now!
viking
04-27-2009, 12:10 PM
IS THERE A CURE FOR THIS??? picked this up from the Fourwinds site ...
Good Morning Ann & Patrick,
Will silver colloidal kill the new swine flu virus?
MF
(Response)
FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer
TO: MF
DATE: April 26, 2009
SUBJECT: Reply
Dear MF::
Thank you for asking a most important question at this time in our history. Will colloidal silver kill the new swine flu virus? The answer is "yes!"
Silver in very tiny particle form in distilled water, produced by electrolysis, is one of the oldest and most effective natural anti-biotics on our planet. Two others are colloids of gold and of platinum. Colloidal silver will kill other harmful viruses and bacteria in addition to the present Swine Flu.
I suggest that you read my article we have had posted on Fourwinds for many years entitled, "People of the Lie: Colloidal Silver". (Now re-posted on our Homepage. http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/bellringers_corner/people_of_the_lie/news.php?q=38514158b7c2bc9db8681fdf05a18d18.
We can protect ourselves against disease, and we can petition Creator God and the Forces of Light to neutralize all harmful effects of disease, and especially the present Swine Flu virus, and prevent any pandemic or epidemic of such on our planet. It is all a matter of choice and action.
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
viking
Swanny
04-27-2009, 12:25 PM
Time to start making some colloidal silver then. :thumb_yello:
Anyone got simple directions on how to make it??
viking
04-27-2009, 12:30 PM
Time to start making some colloidal silver then. :thumb_yello:
Anyone got simple directions on how to??
Try here for starters.....
You can make your own colloidal silver with a CS generator far more cheaply than purchasing the CS from a health store at $10 per ounce. CS generators for home use are made by various companies listed on the internet. I purchased the CS generator that I use from http://www.robeysilver.com. I recommend the home generator deluxe model at a cost of $249.95(Sale $200.00). because it has an automatic shut-off control and a parts per million (ppm) control dial.
The automatic shut-off control allows one to use a larger glass container such as a quart or two quart jar to make larger amounts of colloidal silver. The machine will shut off when the solution reaches the ppm set on the ppm control dial, usually in about one hour. One word of caution is that colloidal solutions using electrolysis must be made with only distilled water. Any other water contains minerals which will render the passing of an electric current through it ineffective for making a colloidal solution.
The human body utilizes colloidal silver at the rate of three to five ppm. Higher concentrations of silver are not harmful in any way but they do not kill internal microbes more effectively. For a topical application of CS a silver concentration of 60 ppm or higher is needed. AT this level CS is effective as an after-shave, deodorant, mouth wash, for gargling and for burns, cuts, insect bites and other skin irritations.
On a side note the early pioneers of the U.S. "Old West" would put a silver dollar into a bucket of fresh milk and keep it from spoiling without refrigeration for two to three days. They also used true silverware and silver dishes which aided their health. Also, for many centuries the Royal Families of the world have been called "Blue Bloods" because of the high silver content in their blood. They stored their food in silver dishes, ate from silver plates and cups, and used true silverware. They had no modern medicine and medical doctors but remained healthy. The "commoners" could not afford silver utensils and were usually sick.
For many years my family and I have used colloidal silver with great success. We recommend one-fourth to one-half cup of colloidal silver a day as a maintenance program, if you are able to make your own CS. CS can be put into your drinking water and used throughout the day or taken at meal times to keep your body constantly supplied. Over time light will reduce the positive charge on the silver ion, causing it to precipitate from suspension. The silver will then adhere to the walls of the container and render it unusable. This problem is corrected by storing CS in amber colored glass bottles. This gives it an indefinite shelf life.
Colloidal gold (CG) is nearly unavailable in U.S. health stores today, as are CG generators on the internet. The price of gold makes buying CG very expensive. The U.S. Government has effectively prohibited the manufacturing of CG generators, but one source is found at http://www.biophysica.com. Colloidal titanium and colloidal titanium generators are nearly impossible to find in the marketplace.
The big lie is that all healing can only happen through the medicines, drugs, medical techniques and expertise of the medical community. Medical doctors are honored as the God's of Healing and are paid accordingly. Behind the scenes the pharmaceutical companies control all. They fund the medical research grants at the universities to control the results, and they bribe the medical doctors to utilize their drugs and techniques by allowing the doctors to become stockholders in their pharmaceutical companies. This is all done at the expense of those who suffer from illness, and many, who are ill, have become so from the medications and techniques of the medical community.
Colloidal silver is kept secret by the pharmaceutical industry for two very important reasons. The first reason, of course, is that the effectiveness and availability of CS would severely cut into the profits the drug companies make today on all the various antibiotics, flue, and cold remedies. The second reason is that CS can not be patented. The Food and Drug Administration has classified CS as a pre 1938 drug, which makes it exempt from current patent laws. If a product cannot be patented and a monopoly held on it in the marketplace, it cannot demand a high price. Therefore, CS is worthless to the pharmaceutical profiteers. In fact they are fearful that colloidal silver may return to public use and have worked hard to keep it hidden.
Is it any wonder that colloidal silver which can stop viruses such as West Nile, AIDS, Ebola, Bubonic plague, and SARS, is kept hidden from public use? Something so inexpensive, so easy to make, and so accessible to the public as colloidal silver would cause so much good health as to wipe out whole sections of the pharmaceuticals in thousands of hospitals and drug stores. Such is the trillion dollar drug lie. Can you imagine a world without harmful molds and bacteria? Can you imagine a world without the common cold, without AIDS, without the "flu", without venereal disease, without SARS? That is the world of colloidal silver. We certainly are people of the Lie!
viking
waitinginthewings
04-27-2009, 04:37 PM
Hi Viking: I was just looking at the link for CS generators, & was wondering how does one know when the electrodes are used up or damaged, no good any more? I did not see this question in their FAQ?
viking
04-27-2009, 04:55 PM
Hi Viking: I was just looking at the link for CS generators, & was wondering how does one know when the electrodes are used up or damaged, no good any more? I did not see this question in their FAQ?
Try this ...The cheaper option...
http://www.colloidalsilver.cc/index2.htm
viking
judykott
04-27-2009, 04:59 PM
When you try to order from there you get the HTTP 404
Connecting with Sauce
04-27-2009, 05:02 PM
I have one of these... A Sota Silver pulser... Part of the Bob Beck protocol (I have the other 3 items too of the protocol). Ozone and mag pulser... Said to cure anything like MMS.
http://www.sotainstruments.com/products_silver_pulser.asp
I also have MMS and a far-infrared sauna blanket and a masticating juicer... and vitamin C without artifical sweetner...
All immune boosters...
Fear feeds the energy grid of the planet which allows them to harvist the crop... Light and happiness are key...
JoyAnna
04-27-2009, 05:26 PM
I am looking at another generator for $135 as described at:
http://www.truefoodsmarket.com/product_info.php/products_id/2077
This item is available through Azure Standard for $78. I am already a member of this natural/organic source which serves the west coast, so this looks like a great bargain.
http://www.azurestandard.com/
Does anyone know about or use this generator?
JoyAnna
burgundia
04-27-2009, 05:52 PM
Time to start making some colloidal silver then. :thumb_yello:
Anyone got simple directions on how to make it??
swerdlow says that colloidal silver is absolutely not to be taken internally....I do not know why...
peaceandlove
04-27-2009, 07:12 PM
BEN'S BLOG 4/27/2009 :lightsabre:
The release of a US bio-weapon in Mexico was a fatal mistake for the illuminati
The criminally insane owners of the Federal Reserve Board, faced with inevitable bankruptcy, are once again trying to save themselves by creating mayhem. However, by releasing a bio-weapon in Mexico they have most surely lost the support of almost everybody in the alphabet soup agencies and the pentagon.
Their plan to use the pandemic as an excuse for martial law will blow up in their faces. There can be no doubt this was the last straw. It is time to take them down. All patriotic Americans must rise and save their country from the grips of these madmen. The world is watching you America and praying for your success in regaining your freedom.
Source: http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2009/04/index.html
Wormhole
04-27-2009, 07:15 PM
We need to put this into logical perspective. 4000 people die from the flu in Canada alone each year. Think about it. This is not a crisis, it is a media spin for another reason. There are NO BODIES, NAMES, or FACES. We are being manipulated emotionally and next we will be manipulated physically. This is a diversion. Either they want to test out the way the sheeple react to the laws that they are able to enforce under this "National Health Crisis" or there is a much more diabolical plan underneath this subterfuge and they are getting away with something big while our heads are turned. Look around. What is going on right NOW that they do not want us to notice?
Peace of Mind,
Wormhole
Karen
04-27-2009, 07:37 PM
We need to put this into logical perspective. 4000 people die from the flu in Canada alone each year. Think about it. This is not a crisis, it is a media spin for another reason. There are NO BODIES, NAMES, or FACES.
Peace of Mind,
Wormhole
Most of the "reported flu deaths" are not even flu. The vast majority are from pneumonia. "They" just combine the two to hype getting your mercury-laced flu vaccine to further corrupt your immune system and give you early-onset Alzheimer's.
777 The Great Work
04-27-2009, 07:59 PM
I find it interesting that we will never see a body, a name, or a face of any of these alleged victims. I also find it interesting that only the cases in Mexico are fatal and not anyone else from any other place has had more then a nasty cold.
Sorry, but this smacks of a social experiment. Let's see how far they will take it... without even a body to prove it. I personally think this is a crock and I will not feel otherwise until it can be proven. Right now all we have is a busy media and our world Governments testing out their control. Watch out!!!
How do you control an entire world without firing a gun? Fear. No flu shot for me thank you. Last time I had one I contracted pneumonia.
If this is a reality, well I will stand corrected when I see it. Right now all I see is spin.
Peace of Mind,
Wormhole
Here's the Spin, some of us are being influenced :lol3:by this news of an influenza.:lol3:
Swine Flu- now watch this
I N fluence - now drop the I
=N fluence N= 14 = two weeks Notice.
Notice=T ON ICE or watered down version of the message for two weeks.
Humble Janitor
04-27-2009, 09:31 PM
Try this ...The cheaper option...
http://www.colloidalsilver.cc/index2.htm
viking
I'm definitely going to buy one of these kits very soon.
However, as mentioned in a post below, Swerdlow advises against using colloidal silver internally. This means that it cannot be swallowed?
Karen
04-27-2009, 09:50 PM
I'm definitely going to buy one of these kits very soon.
However, as mentioned in a post below, Swerdlow advises against using colloidal silver internally. This means that it cannot be swallowed?
That's right, not swallowed. Some people swear by taking 1/4 to 1/2 cup a day. Others say there is a danger to that -
Swanny
04-27-2009, 10:37 PM
I've been swallowing it and I'm fine :insane:
Dantheman62
04-27-2009, 10:41 PM
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Waterman
04-27-2009, 11:38 PM
Not many years ago an indian nation ask me to investigate an alternative to drugs for biological agents. I spent three months investigating the options. The most important thing to remember is that there isn't a "silver bullet".
It is important to remember that 99% of the people making recommendation have never tested the remedy they are recommending on a biological agent like anthrax, small pox, etc...
Yes, silver kills bio agents but do you know why? Do you know it does not build anyones immune system. It is a contact agent. Let me explain.
If you filled a 50 gallon stock tank with anthrax infested water and and you put col. silver in that water the anthrax will die only "after" it comes in direct contact with the silver particulates introduced into the water. And that is the same way it functions in the body, it must circulate in the blood stream and come in contact with the bio agent to kill it.
So it is like Russian roulette whether or not it kills the pathogenic microbe before the person infected dies.
But what about building the immune system? Yes, I've heard the tons of reports about "feeling better" after taking col silver and various other remedies, and that is great. But immunity is enhanced by making sure at minimum two things happen.
1) That the body produces sufficient numbers of anti-bodies to fight a pathogen.
2) That the anti-bodies produced will be able to recognize the pathogen so that it will be attacked and eliminated/destroyed.
So taking remedies that stimulate the production of the anti-bodies is important. This can be accomplished in various ways, but it is important to know which ones can be done over a long period of time. For example echinacea is often the botanical of choice for colds etc... but is should not be used over a long period of time. So a better botanical to enhance immunity (up T-cell count) would be astragalus. Astragalus plays a vital role in botanical remedies for the immune system, and has been used historically to treat infections of the mucous membranes of the body, especially the urinary and respiratory tracts.
Things get tricky is when it comes to the body recognizing a pathogen. And genetically modified pathogens are often modified to accomplish just, that when making a biological weapons.
You have probably heard about "cell wall deficient" pathogens. This is when the microbe's cell wall is reduced or completely removed so that the anti-bodies we produce to fight the pathogen (virus, bacteria, fungus, etc...) can't find or recognize the "bad" guys, Our bodies were designed to fight biological pathogens by recognizing the coat/jacket/cell wall of the pathogen., and if it is missing even an all points bulletin isn't going to help our body detect the bad guys that are running around inside our body, because they are undetectable.
That is the kind of EVIL cleverness that biological weapon designers think up when making these disgusting biological weapons. However, there is an answer, and I will post it in my next post..... but now I'm going to have some hot tea and dinner...
David
04-27-2009, 11:40 PM
Ever had a Pappa Smurf moment?
Just a thought!
http://www.foxnews.com/images/331391/2_61_320_vid_blueman_nobug.jpg
Man Turn Blue From Colloidal Silver
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317564,00.html
Karen
04-27-2009, 11:47 PM
Ever had a Pappa Smurf moment?
Just a thought!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317564,00.html
Colloidal silver users claim this is a big hoaxed up thing to scare you away from colloidal silver.
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