We The People Have a Dream

[Zeddo]

Please refer to pages 2 and 3 of the thread titled Shhhhhhh.

[Zeddo]

I just posted this in another thread

[BROOK]

How does..."The Architects of Peace" sound for the movement?

[Zeddo]

N...........

[BROOK]

It's not really important what we want to call ourselves....just so long as the intent is... to be the change...Peace .....love of mankind
http://www.worldpeacesummit.net/nav/home_06.jpg

[Truthseeker360]

Namaste Brook

It's not really important what we want to call ourselves....just so long as the intent is... to be the change...Peace .....love of mankind
http://www.worldpeacesummit.net/nav/home_06.jpg

[Zeddo]

O...........

[Zeddo]

Z0009

Part 1

[Zeddo]

Part 2

[Zeddo]

Part 3

[Zeddo]

Part 4

[Zeddo]

Part 5

[Zeddo]

Part 6 ...END

[Zeddo]

A quick quote from V:

The people should not be afraid of their government, the government should be afraid of their people.

For those who have broadband.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lkKyaj1GF4

Z

[Lorien]

Damn Zeddo, you wrote a mini novel! I'll have to read it when I get home from work later tonight.

[BROOK]

Great effort ...great start :thumb_yello: I'm going to respond later tonight too...some parts need discussion...I can already see..but it is a start...the best I've seen so far....Great Job :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

Give Peace a Chance

:wub2:

http://www.iknit.org.uk/uploaded_images/Peace-sign-2006-budapest-716185.jpg

[brutus35]

Thank you "Zeddo", Thank you.
Somebody was indeed listening..
My God, I have waited long for this and was wondering WHEN..WHEN.

I am very ready very willing and capable..It is time.
Thanks again..Thank God you are awake..:trumpet::trumpet:

[BROOK]

http://smstemplates.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/28490006maydaysmall.jpg

[BROOK]

Peace rule the day, where reason rules the mind
http://res.dada.at/img/friedensnetzwerk/FlowerpowerGun555x444.jpg

[BROOK]

For the love of God...stop the wars....watch the whole thing...:thumb_yello:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp1fLW-DS8Q&NR=1

For the love of God.....Be the Change!

[BROOK]

I'd Love to Change the World....
This was my mantra then....
and is my mantra now....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUokMbJC3P8

Except leaving it up to YOU is not the answer.....


BE THE CHANGE :wub2:

[BROOK]

Wonderful job..great start :thumb_yello:
The one part that threw me was the Criminality and antisocial behavior part....smack a little bit of what we are dealing with now.... not in a bad way..just the ability to assert power. could turn into another higher power over the other guy sort of scenario. And only due to the fact that they would be overseers. who would watch them? As a collective society there could be a power struggle ...and we could end up in the same place as before...we have to figure out how to avoid that at all costs this time around...but how....hmmm
Don't get me wrong...your ideas are good ...I just see the opportunity for some ego to get involved...and that is what we need to avoid.
Your thoughts? :wub2:

[Zeddo]

Wonderful job..great start :thumb_yello:
The one part that threw me was the Criminality and antisocial behavior part....smack a little bit of what we are dealing with now.... not in a bad way..just the ability to assert power. could turn into another higher power over the other guy sort of scenario. And only due to the fact that they would be overseers. who would watch them? As a collective society there could be a power struggle ...and we could end up in the same place as before...we have to figure out how to avoid that at all costs this time around...but how....hmmm
Don't get me wrong...your ideas are good ...I just see the opportunity for some ego to get involved...and that is what we need to avoid.
Your thoughts? :wub2:



Thank you All for the encouragement, you have no idea the trepidation I felt at posting this.

Thanks Brook for the above. That is what I was getting at about the "negative parts which can be looked at and pondered". This is after all for Peace and Self Realisation. I welcome all input, this is after all a combined effort.

Love to All of you wonderful people

Z

[Zeddo]

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[BROOK]

Thank you All for the encouragement, you have no idea the trepidation I felt at posting this.

Thanks Brook for the above. That is what I was getting at about the "negative parts which can be looked at and pondered". This is after all for Peace and Self Realisation. I welcome all input, this is after all a combined effort.

Love to All of you wonderful people

Z

You know..the original laws were set up to serve us...it's the distortion of power that has corrupted it....I say...clean house...keep the original laws as created by the people...and have a check and balance system to see that the laws are not abused...by the power hungry fat cats...and they start serving THE PEOPLE :mad3:
Some of the laws have been manipulated to serve the power hungry...that needs to change...I like the part about getting rid of the 12 jurors and instilling a more fair and balanced system...when true peace is established... and the hungry are fed...housing met...crime will be almost non existent ....if the government is set to "serve and protect" the people....we will willingly work to keep such an existence intact :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

I just saw a post by Jack....I want you to get MAD!!!

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13589

I wonder why no one has bothered to comment on this idea of standing up NOW and demanding Peace...I am mad as hell..I don't want to take it any more...and to be the change...we need to start doing something...if not what Zeddo has proposed ...something...this is at least a full out effort to BE THE CHANGE you want to see...nothing is going to change if WE don't do anything...if we just sit here and complain that the PTB are setting us up...well is that not our own fault for taking it?

http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2008/6/16/mad_as_hell.jpg

[BROOK]

http://www.iraatrocities.fsnet.co.uk/images/Time_for_Peace.jpg

[BROOK]

http://www.positivevoid.co.uk/we%20demand%20world%20peace.JPG

[rhythm]

JUST to let you know what

you are doing here is

to be congratulated

and much appreciated ...

do keep it up

much respect

rhythmmm ...

[BROOK]

JUST to let you know what

you are doing here is

to be congratulated

and much appreciated ...

do keep it up

much respect

rhythmmm ...

I would love to keep it going...but it seems that no one here is interested...it's much easier to sit in front of the computer and check out how much the ptb are screwing with us ...instead of creating the change we need to achieve what we need...and desire.
I've always been of the mind that if you really want something of value...you have to work for it...it takes planning...debating...solutions....shine the light on the darkness...and it turns to light :thumb_yello:

[futureyes]

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those that do evil, but because of those that look on and do nothing"
Albert Einstein

Save Mother Earth
Turn on the LIGHT

:wub2:

[Zeddo]

JUST to let you know what

you are doing here is

to be congratulated

and much appreciated ...

do keep it up

much respect

rhythmmm ...

Thank you for that Rythm, and thanks for reading the thread. I know it can be daunting at best to read something that is so long. If I was an artist I would do it in comic format as the impact seems to be greater that way!!!
Love and Light to you

Z

[Zeddo]

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[Zeddo]

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[Samarkis]

Blessings!!

Zeddo!!! Great Job!!

What I do suggest is a little more organized & constructive way...

I feel that instead of doing the week off(many feel they cannot do that,for various reasons) Get a more streamlined pamphlet or pdf ready and have it ready for sending out to the global meditations all over!!!

I do feel that much more can be done in doing POSITIVE examples/projects
that would be inclusive of ptb....Food banks,music,environmental clean up projects,volunteer fairs(instead of job fairs),etc...It is less judgemental and more proactive!!!

I do love many points that you have made...just remember,many baby steps lead to big changes!!! Much easier to effect a change in the right direction!!!

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/blessings-2.jpg

[Zeddo]

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[Zeddo]

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[BROOK]

Sharing another message for Peace.
Everything I've been saying is in this song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buswvJrO-f8

http://www.shopatmoxie.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/changemug300.gif

[BROOK]

I don't watch television channels anymore...I watch movies..and that's about it. I'm at work right now..and I went to get a cup of coffee...there is a television in the lounge..I'm a firm believer in messages..I got one from the television..the History Channel to be exact.....
As I was pouring my coffee the commercial said something like this...."Tonight at 8:00 the History Channel will be airing the series
The Art of War....."
I sat there for a minute and thought to myself...how can the liken WAR to an art let alone an ART FORM?
Then I sort of got mad..that the public is bombarded with theses kind of mesages all the time.
Why can't we start a movement of Peace and make it become AN ART FORM ...The Art of Peace :thumb_yello: :wub2:

[BROOK]

We need to start bombarding the public with messages of peace....that is the first thing we need to do....get a mesage out ...
for example...get everyone you know to strt making LOTS of videos with PEACE as the theme...there are many out there now..but I mean even more....saturate the public with the message...and in the messages...show them the power they have to create it :thumb_yello:
Old songs...new songs...moving video of how wonderful it could be...lets make it an ART FORM ....
Part one of a series of MANY things to consider to creat that which we desire....BE THE CHANGE
Get the message out to everyone you know and have them do the same..do not relent...make it your MANTRA....and let them know...it's the only solution to real freedom :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

Another thing I am personally going to do..I'm going to contact every Peace Movement I can find on the internet..I'm going to write to them and express a golbal movement of all peace movements getting together and doing a mass movement....wish me luck..it will be a big job..but I want to be the change ....what are you going to do? :wub2:

[BROOK]

As I find thing along the way I will share them

http://www.createlove.org/

[BROOK]

Blessings!!

Zeddo!!! Great Job!!

What I do suggest is a little more organized & constructive way...

I feel that instead of doing the week off(many feel they cannot do that,for various reasons) Get a more streamlined pamphlet or pdf ready and have it ready for sending out to the global meditations all over!!!

I do feel that much more can be done in doing POSITIVE examples/projects
that would be inclusive of ptb....Food banks,music,environmental clean up projects,volunteer fairs(instead of job fairs),etc...It is less judgemental and more proactive!!!

I do love many points that you have made...just remember,many baby steps lead to big changes!!! Much easier to effect a change in the right direction!!!

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/blessings-2.jpg

I was thinking the same thing....not everyone would be able to stop the working...but in the same sense...just going out and saying peace brother...while the machine still works..is not going to be very effective..the machine that needs all of us to produce their wars..and work for them..well we somehow have to have a power over them...stopping their machine is one of the best ways to show they have no power over us...just a thought..still much work to do..but on the right track :thumb_yello:

[Zeddo]

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[BROOK]

Zeddo....I'll take some of that coffee...first I think we need to work on some things we all need to do...starting an effort of this magnitude will be lot's of work...and there are many out there who have no clue what to do....we need to start a list of things that will kick start this into action....
Getting the message out there is first and foremost :thumb_yello:
then getting organized is next....in the next two weeks we plan on having contact with some of the major organization for Peace...I liked the idea of adding to a global meditation group...any ideas on that will be helpful

I feel your frustration Zeddo...but don't give up on Avalon...they are just getting started...I know of many out there who would do their part..if they only know what their part was...
I reccomend looking inside yourself...finding your power..and then unleashing the force that is yours....whatever that might be :thumb_yello:

[Zeddo]

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[BROOK]

See ..you should have left it there...Samarkis is very involved with the Nexus...but this week coming up is a BIG day for them...the main event so to speak...good luck wiht that BTW Nexus group :thumb_yello:

There are several there who would be more then willing to get involved..I'm sure..just pre occupied at the moment.
In the time being... lets focus on getting the word out...to everyone you can..it's coming...and not going to stop if I can help it. :thumb_yello:

[Unified Serenity]

The definition of insanity is to continue doing the same thing and expect different results!

There needs to be a slap and a wake up from the drill sergeant sometimes. I think the issue can be among those of us who are aware and awake, that what gives one the right to be a drill sergeant, and egos get involved.

Here is my take and I guess it may sound unloving, but since the ptb have tried so hard to rid Africa of those useless eaters they hate who have dark skin, lets invite our black brothers and sisters to join us elsewhere, and take every head of state, every ruler, every person who has openly worked for the NWO and put them in Africa. Lets build a very high wall sealing them in, monitor them, drop ship food and supplies to them, but not give them any means to communicate outside of the "zone", not give them means to build weapons, and if say in a hundred years some want to rejoin mankind, then they can go through a re-integration phase and we can know them. They won't realize we have monitored them, listened to them etc all along, but if some want out as is very possible, they can come out.

As for our own leadership, no one will fill that post past 6 years. That's it. No one is so special that they must be our guru or elder. Wisdom is needed locally, and after 6 years on the council they can return home, and be a blessing in their community. The biggest problem we have is these people who truly believe they have a divine right to rule us. People who go to Washington D.C. and stay there for 30 years, building little kingdoms, making deals, and living under different rules and laws than they make for us plebians.

Things would have to be done in stages. Energy is the first issue. Energy to continue to transport food and medicine. Then community farms to sustain regions. Some are better for growing wheat and grains while others for different things. It's a big project, but doable.

You can say lay down arms, but a club makes just as good a weapon if everyone is without arms. There will be those of aggressive nature who would see a vacuum of power and seek to make their own fiefdom. I for one would love to see the first council be all women for the first generation. Men have ruled by force and power for thousands of years, and while women can be evil and ruthless, I happen to believe that there is an abundant source of wise women who would sacrifice a season to help correct the problems. I am NOT saying men are evil and bad. I am saying as a pendulum swings, the patriarchal system has had control for so long that there needs to be a season that the divine feminine is in control to help balance the worlds focus and energy. Please believe me when I write this, that I am NOT a feminist with an agenda to emasculate our wonderful men. We need our men, our sons, brothers, fathers who offer their love, strength, and focus as well.

Maybe they need a break from the old to get back in touch with and balance themselves. Starhawk wrote a novel years ago I think called the "Fifth sacred element" which is about a great societal shift. Basically the Christian right takes over America and there is a pocket of those who want this new society we are speaking of centered in San Fransisco area who live this out. It's not perfect, but it is interesting.

Animal farm is the book that seems most true though of what happens to those seeking this utopian society. All are equal, though some are more equal than others. Is mankind spiritually evolved enough to not have a problem around the world of pockets that become as "Animal Farm". Or who can forget "Mad Max"?

I don't mean to throw cold water on the ideals. I am a realist, and I do not believe all mankind is ready to walk equally, nor do they want to. If there would be those who seek dominance and are ready to fight, how does a peacefully focused society fight them? If there is a military, that is antithesis to peace. The military are there to kill and break things. Who wants to volunteer? Who leads them? How do they not take control and through superior weapons not put us back possibly in a worse situation?

I think the only reason the PTB have been stymied is that American's are so beholding to clinging to their guns and spirituality. Without the guns there is not constitution. If there were no guns in the common man's hands, then they would have run roughshod over us a Longggggg time ago.

Just some meat to chew on for a while. Well, sorgum, barley, and fiber if you don't like the use of the word "meat".

Unified Serenity

[BROOK]

Ahhh..but remember the 100th monkey :winksmiley02: I truly believe the ones that are pushing the buttons would be powerless without us....

[Unified Serenity]

Yes, the 100th monkey is a nice concept. I have understood energetics, and if you can get 100 people to meditate in a city of say 200k you can change the dynamics of the energy of the city.

I simply believe that there is a difference between a monkeys higher self and mine or my willpower or anyone else who has free choice. What of those who are sick, disturbed, unstable yet appear to be fine? We may choose to treat them, but what if they have a "god" complex and draw others with them? What if they are in a position of leadership?

Is there evil in the world? I believe there is. It is easy to talk peace, it is entirely another thing to get it, keep it, and who is willing to fight for it if needs be? Are we talking a completely non-violent change? The ptb won't allow that, and unless there would be some miracle or the 100th monkey be true, when would we know we have reached that 100th monkey and not simply deluding ourselves and find that the world is not ready? I would rather petition these war mongers to let us all gather, choose a place to live, shut ourselves away there, and have our own utopia without help from them.

Just adding a little salt to my stew,


Unified Serenity

[BROOK]

That's simple....we don't allow them to have that kind of power over us any more....for the sick...get them some loving help.
We will have to protect ourselves from ever letting the PTB from ever having that kind of power ever again...

[Unified Serenity]

That's simple....we don't allow them to have that kind of power over us any more....for the sick...get them some loving help.
We will have to protect ourselves from ever letting the PTB from ever having that kind of power ever again...

That's fine, but my question was not answered. How do you stop them? What is the control mechanism, and who controls it? It is my contention that power corrupts, and the temptation is too great for most to handle. The ptb I think would rather nuke the world, mass slaughter 90% of the world rather than lose control, and if you think they cannot sense some 100th monkey scenario, I think you would be wrong.

They have very dark energetics, dark magick, and know how to read the signs and people very well. I have practiced mysticism and high magick for years. There is not much that cannot be discovered if you know the right questions to ask. No, I never conjured demons or anything. High magick for me is Divine Contemplation on the highest astral planes.

Unified Serenity

[BROOK]

They can only stop us if we allow them to...if peace is what we desire...remember...there are more of us then there are of them..
I believe that crippling their power is the necessary action...remember..they need us to run their business as usual.
Do I believe that we have it within in us to do this..yes...but not by giving up before we start...having the attitude that peace cannot be acheived...is not the answer. That by shining a light on the darkness will make it go away...absolutly can happen.
Sitting thinking about it..not being the change you wish to see...non action is what you will acheive....
I for one plan on being the change I wish to see. :thumb_yello: Failure will not be in my vocabulary....solutions at every obstical will be formulated..and the cause carried on...the end results will be worth the effort.

[BROOK]

The answer is ...Stop their war machine..feed the hungry...bring humanity to humanity

Having the vision

[BROOK]

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those that do evil, but because of those that look on and do nothing"
Albert Einstein

Save Mother Earth
Turn on the LIGHT

:wub2:



This is a powerful statement :thumb_yello:

[Unified Serenity]

Do I believe that we have it within in us to do this..yes...but not by giving up before we start...having the attitude that peace cannot be acheived...is not the answer.[QUOTE]

I do hope you do not believe that is how I feel Brook. Tone can be hard to deduce in this medium, and your tone seems judgmental regarding what I have written. If that is not the case, then fine, but it does feel that way based on the words you chose to use.

[QUOTE]
[COLOR=#00ffff]That by shining a light on the darkness will make it go away...absolutly can happen.[Sitting thinking about it..not being the change you wish to see...non action is what you will acheive....

Again, what makes you think I am not doing my own energetics and taking action locally as well other places? I am simply looking at all possible sides and walking along as if "I have all the answers". Maybe it's because of my years of energetics and battles in astral that I see these issues as a cause for discussion and looking at them. Yes, group focused positive loving energy is very powerful. Are you going to be in every group? Worldwide change is a very big idea and movement. So, I think we are on a very good ground in stirring our brothers and sisters to this unified spirit of oneness, and we are gathering. I don't have a clue as to what our numbers are worldwide though.

I for one plan on being the change I wish to see. :thumb_yello: Failure will not be in my vocabulary....solutions at every obstical will be formulated..and the cause carried on...the end results will be worth the effort.

I agree with being the change ourselves, and my post is not a throwing of a gauntlet at your face. It is with deepest resolve and desire to see these changes occur that I am here, as well as I believe others are here as well. I just raise the questions since this whole thread is about an entire different world order, and wonder "what if..." since that is what the original poster seemed to be complaining about regarding lack of input. I assumed maybe wrongly that they did not just want add a boys, but deeper discussions into the dynamics of running this wonderful new utopia.

Unified Serenity

[Zeddo]

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[BROOK]

And I am glad that you are here..:thumb_yello: At no time did I mean that to be a judgement of you personally...not by any stretch of it...I am seriously trying to get the ones here to participate...Remember when 911 happened? remember how when it first happened, how the whole world stopped...and emotion was so thick in the air you could cut it with a knife?
Well that is the kind of emotion we need to rise...only one of peace...not to be used by the PTB to creat a war on terror...but to create a world of peace. It's that same kind of power that we as humanity have in us to overcome the control we have allowed ourselves to be under.
With that said..there is much work to be done....LOTS of organization, and getting the word out...I'm trying to spark the fire ...the one that has been smouldering inside of us for quite some time.

[Zeddo]

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[BROOK]

Not sure if this was covered in what I just wrote.

There is no quick answer to this (or simple answer for that matter).

Once again, it is about education and the bringing down of man made religion. I know you will say that doesn't answer my question, perhaps this will.

There needs to be a governance BY the PEOPL for THE PEOPLE WITH THE PEOPLE. Everyone has to be involved and yes, allow a bunch of women to be the Head Council who pass the final Aye or Naye. Then at least we know we won't get the macho war options.

There are ways of doing this. It was being done in America untill they allowed the whole thing to get away from them. There need to be checks and balances (more, I am afraid) put in place to stop secret societies, men in black etc etc etc.

Checks and balances indeed :thumb_yello:

[Malynda]

First off let me apologize for being lazy and apathetic. I have been caught up being selfish as I have been overly unselfish for far too long. I will make an effort to read and contribute to this wonderufl thread this weekend. Please do not scrap it. Sometimes we all just need a few things to fall into place before we can be open. The few things I have scanned are beautiful and well thought out. I applaud you for being so brave, Zeddo.

[Zeddo]

First off let me apologize for being lazy and apathetic. I have been caught up being selfish as I have been overly unselfish for far too long. I will make an effort to read and contribute to this wonderufl thread this weekend. Please do not scrap it. Sometimes we all just need a few things to fall into place before we can be open. The few things I have scanned are beautiful and well thought out. I applaud you for being so brave, Zeddo.

How could I possibly argue against someone who has their priorities right !!!

Thanks for the encouragement Malynda
:original:

[Malynda]

How could I possibly argue against someone who has their priorities right !!!

Thanks for the encouragement Malynda
:original:

Thanks for the energy with which you post. Your posts renew and strengthen my belief that, "yes we can." hahaha I had to say it because we can change this. To me it all seems so simple but it has been presented as confusing to deter us from actually changing anything. Swear, get a few of us here in government and we'd have a beautiful nation in no time at all. :thumb_yello:

[Zeddo]

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[Christo888]

http://smstemplates.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/28490006maydaysmall.jpg

Brook... May I ask where this poster came from?

[BROOK]

I just googled it...along with a few more here...I'm sure if you google Peace....it will turn up and you can see where it came from....I just liked the pic :lol3:

I just searched it..it's from Westminster...may 1st 2004 a peace rally of some sort.

[BROOK]

Wondering why you ask Christo888...is there something wrong about it?

[BROOK]

Maybe this is a better view of the way it should be...
After all...the children are our future :thumb_yello:
http://www.cartercenter.org/resources/images/peace/mainpic_peace.jpg


http://www.childrenslibrary.org/library/reviews/Chelsea-03-17-05-How%20to%20make%20peace.jpg

[judykott]

Symbols are specifically linked with magic and the creators of the comic book stated that they had read some of Crowley’s writings, which seems to have inspired their writing. According to “BNNHKDSH”, “in the order of the Golden Dawn and even that of the A.'.A.'. , there are various rituals where one performs various signs. One of the signs is that of V, with ones arms raised to the heavens. This signifies Apophis, Typhon or Set, all being the same Deity. This Deity is representative of Destruction or, the corrosive aspect of the universe, i.e. change. Word has it that Aleister Crowley suggested to Winston Churchill that he ought to use this sign as 'V for Victory'. Meanwhile, occultists were rumoured to giggle, understanding that it stood for destruction and praise/reference to Set."
When Aleister Crowley received the Book of the Law, Liber AL vel Legis, in 1904 from the Egyptian Gods, he began dating everything from that point onwards as EV, "era vulgaris". EV further signified that we are living in the new aeon.” In the movie, of course, this new era is personified by "Evey". BNNHKDSH concludes: "Finally, we find V quoting Faust when he states ‘Vi Veri Viversum Vivus Vici’, a motto used by Aleister Crowley, when he became a Magister Templi, 8=3 of the A.'.A.'." In total, three interesting references that tie Crowley’s system of Thelema to V for Vendetta.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/vforvendetta.html

[BROOK]

Okay.....this thread is not about symbols.....:nono:
It is about BEING THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE.....plain and simple
It is about changing the world...bringing Peace to mankind...
Humanity loving humanity....Using our Power over the ones that have made us slaves...or I should say that we allowed ourselves to become slaves.
The power of tyranny.....must end...Peace must be achieved for us to evolve...
You can view the symbols and ponder..but it is not going to achieve the Peace we need....Action is going to bring the Peace....Spreading the word of Peace....love of humanity...feeding the hungry...stopping the violence...stopping the war machine....you don't need a symbol to do that...you need a love of humanity....and the willingness to work to achieve that Peace :wub2: Action not just thought :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

The children in that picture are not thinking about Mr Crowley...they want a world of Peace....nothing more...and nothing more was intended by it...I don't follow symbols...I follow my heart :thumb_yello:

I hope Judykott..that you are not suggesting that I'm a follower of Mr Crowley....because you could not be any further off base....maybe you have been hypnotized by all the symbols and cannot see things for what they really are?

[JoyAnna]

Bravo, Brook!!!!

[BROOK]

I have to ask what the purpose of distracting the theme of this thread is...very suspect...in my mind.
With all your knowledge of symbols and Mr Crowley and for that matter Cristo888 what is the purpose of bringing up the banner?
Is this a way to distract the members of this forum to get into action for an idea that is way past it's time.

I don't believe in pondering that which I can achieve with action....
I have never gotten a thing by sitting and pondering..without action.
And I'm sure that most of the members on this forum will agree..anything they have achieved has been by doing...not just thinking.
So....I'd like to ask all again.....do you want to be the change you want in this world?

then

BE THE CHANGE

[judykott]

Wondering why you ask Christo888...is there something wrong about it?

It seems as if you misinterpreted United Serenity and now you are misunderstanding mine as well.

It seems as if there is not a lot that can be posted that you feel is a personal affront, but some things are just information or just a question. A picture that has people portraying symbols is about them portraying symbols, after all that is what it is called a peace symbol. I was just providing a piece of information about it's origins. I do not see how you would perceive this to be a personal affront or accusation as a follower of Aleister Crowley. To go about being the change and peace does start from within from the heart.

For there to be the change and have peace must also come from an understanding of how we have been manipulated. So how about it from your heart and my heart give peace a chance here on this thread, a good start indeed.:mfr_lol:

[BROOK]

non the less...it's a distraction...back to the theme of the thread....which has nothing to do with me...but everything to do with the direction of mankind....

Zeddo did suggest a 2 week period of non action..in other words...crippling the "machine" remember there are more of us then there are of them...so spreading the word that soon there will be a movement to stop the machine...and create the peace...needs to get out there....
As soon as I get in contact with the organizations I've been contacting...I will formulate that idea with them..and I'm sure it will be much more complex..but get the idea out there...that is the first action you can do...be the change...and start spreading the message of LOVE

[BROOK]

Also want to add...walk the walk.....start lending a hand to your fellow man...when you see someone who needs a hand ...lend it :thumb_yello:

If you see hunger and have food...give it....it will come back to you I sware it will....I've lived it...and when I give...I seem to somehow get it back..that is just how it works...call it the law of one...the law of attraction...whatever it is...it works :thumb_yello:

[Malynda]

Bravo to Zeddo for drafting this document and sharing it in this thread. My issue is that I'm getting stuck in the "leader" conundrum. "We the People" who I infer to mean Americans or perhaps the world at large. Now, if "We the People" take over in this way, I cannot see a way to be without a central body of leaders. This is perhaps something lacking in me that I cannot wrap my brain around the whole planet being a body of leaders. I can see each of us being responsible for and to each other but in a situtation where we are completely overhauling the status quo, I see too much chaos without there being a grand scale of organization beforehand which to me says leaders. So I'm stuck on that.

Getting around this obstacle is not impossible so let me try so I can get to better thoughts. *hums Jeopardy tune while pondering*

Some things I thought of while reading a Zeddo post last night... I do not recall if it was in this thread or another but Zeddo mentioned having all the information in the Vatican archive available for all. I completely concur. The way it is now is the way it always has been. Burn the books, keep the Bibles from the common people, say the Mass in Latin. It's the same with science, as Zeddo mentioned. I have found through practical experience or accident that much of what I learned in school about science is just plain wrong. The release of all knowledge accumulated should most definitely be a high priority - after housing, feeding, clothing, making healthy. When this shift occurs, I got dibs on being part of the Knowledge Team. lol I honestly have been hoarding and sharing knowledge for most of my life because I have been feeling something coming.

Police and Military:
Although these people are just ordinary people like all of us, they have been much more conditioned into taking orders from certain people in a certain way. They have minds of their own but breaking patterns is hard. They have our best interests in heart but how would we get them to help us all and not the few as they have been ordered?

Wow, thanks for bringing all my issues and programming to light. lol I sure do have some hang-ups. Anyway, those are some things that stuck with me and what I think or have questions about.

Now, let's get this ball rolling. I agree with creating a pdf doc or something of the sort that can be easily shared with others. The way things go around on the internet, we could get the word out quick. I think it was BROOK who suggested we start a list and organize from there. Let's get that going. Feel free to assign me a task or if it's easier, I'll choose. I know we are just starting here but I'm ready to dive in. Action combined with thought, pondering and active projection of positivity go a long way.

[BROOK]

Bravo to Zeddo for drafting this document and sharing it in this thread. My issue is that I'm getting stuck in the "leader" conundrum. "We the People" who I infer to mean Americans or perhaps the world at large. Now, if "We the People" take over in this way, I cannot see a way to be without a central body of leaders. This is perhaps something lacking in me that I cannot wrap my brain around the whole planet being a body of leaders. I can see each of us being responsible for and to each other but in a situtation where we are completely overhauling the status quo, I see too much chaos without there being a grand scale of organization beforehand which to me says leaders. So I'm stuck on that.

Getting around this obstacle is not impossible so let me try so I can get to better thoughts. *hums Jeopardy tune while pondering*

Some things I thought of while reading a Zeddo post last night... I do not recall if it was in this thread or another but Zeddo mentioned having all the information in the Vatican archive available for all. I completely concur. The way it is now is the way it always has been. Burn the books, keep the Bibles from the common people, say the Mass in Latin. It's the same with science, as Zeddo mentioned. I have found through practical experience or accident that much of what I learned in school about science is just plain wrong. The release of all knowledge accumulated should most definitely be a high priority - after housing, feeding, clothing, making healthy. When this shift occurs, I got dibs on being part of the Knowledge Team. lol I honestly have been hoarding and sharing knowledge for most of my life because I have been feeling something coming.

Police and Military:
Although these people are just ordinary people like all of us, they have been much more conditioned into taking orders from certain people in a certain way. They have minds of their own but breaking patterns is hard. They have our best interests in heart but how would we get them to help us all and not the few as they have been ordered?

Wow, thanks for bringing all my issues and programming to light. lol I sure do have some hang-ups. Anyway, those are some things that stuck with me and what I think or have questions about.

Now, let's get this ball rolling. I agree with creating a pdf doc or something of the sort that can be easily shared with others. The way things go around on the internet, we could get the word out quick. I think it was BROOK who suggested we start a list and organize from there. Let's get that going. Feel free to assign me a task or if it's easier, I'll choose. I know we are just starting here but I'm ready to dive in. Action combined with thought, pondering and active projection of positivity go a long way.

Many good points :thumb_yello: Zeddo and I are working behind the scenes to create page of information...where we can gather to create...and formulate...
Thanks for the offer to help...you are the first to offer to BE THE CHANGE....and do keep giving feedback...we are all one...and as one we can unite :thumb_yello:

[Malynda]

Thanks, BROOK, for your comments and your help on this. Let me know if oyu need any help on the page or anything else. I have a whole slew of skills in many areas just itching to be used. I have been colecting my thoughts on voice recorder. As soon as I get through the recordings and filter the gibberish, I'll be back to share. Thanks again for the help and encouragement.

[Malletzky]

I must say, this is really a very interresting thread...a lot of wisdom here, and the whole obviously mixed with a lot of impatience...a kind of anxiously awaiting for the CHANGE TO COME...

About the CHANGE...You require for the humanity and the humans to BE THE CHANGE...well...let me say it this way

I ALREADY AM THE CHANGE

I am the change you require...but this is not what you're looking for my dear...My change is other than yours and this is how it is supposed to be. I don't require that you should change YOUR CHANGE...as I won't change MY CHANGE...

...once again, this is prety well as it is...the more different changes, the more different possibilities for the other to see and choose to CHANGE...

If you know me as I am, you would know that I really AM THE CHANGE...the one who knew me once, the're not sure if I'm the one they knew...I made them think...about MY CHANGE...I show them the way it could be...and I let them choose...but I don't require they must be the same CHANGE as I am...

...so let the other decide what change THEY will be...cause as I already said...

I ALREADY AM THE CHANGE, which is called

:wub2::wub2::wub2:

What is your CHANGE ???

with :wub2:
malletzky

[Zeddo]

...

[BROOK]

Being the change simply means being active in a Peace movement...
Spreading the word for the change that needs to happen..
Many here walk the walk..but don't know what to do to achieve the change that needs to take place for Peace to become a true reality.
What's my change...I'm becoming active in the quest for that which I desire most for humanity...not just on a daily basis...one on one with those I come in contact with..but reaching the world with a message...we are not going to take it anymore...we are going to stand against the PTB...and stop letting them us us to achieve their ends...:thumb_yello:

That being said..there are many here with great ideas....some have posted here already...and much needs to be done...a work in progress...ther are many others here who have the ideas but have not been reached yet...so at the risk of sounding like a broken record...be the change :lol3:

[Zeddo]

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[Malletzky]

Being the change simply means being active in a Peace movement...


...and this is NOT the way I intend to change the world...simply, as I first must change myself and pave the way for the others to come...for the others which task is to educate and spread the change...

...but I highly respect your way to spread the change and I'm sure you're on the right track...so keep on with your change...you should know, it is well apreciated...

with :wub2:
malletzky

[Malletzky]

I took the keys from his ignition and threw them away and said, "I am willing to show my ignorance and now you are stuffed because you need me to be one with you in order to get anywhere".

Love to All

Zedd

WRONG: it will take some time maybe, but there will come other after you who'll be able to get that car anywhere...you just missed a chance, to get there (anywhere) with a new, supperior car...

:wub2::wub2:
malletzky

[BROOK]

...and this is NOT the way I intend to change the world...simply, as I first must change myself and pave the way for the others to come...for the others which task is to educate and spread the change...

...but I highly respect your way to spread the change and I'm sure you're on the right track...so keep on with your change...you should know, it is well apreciated...

with :wub2:
malletzky

Thank you...and I appreciate your honesty....this is not for everyone...but the word is out for those who care to participate...:thumb_yello:

[Malynda]

Thanks for writing that Malynda, I just cleared my recorder this morning and was pondering "should I start recording my thoughts, especially when I am driving too and from work?" I take this as a yes to me.

:original:

Sorry I am not getting into any "heavy responses" right now, I am getting ready to go to work, but will take a peek through the day and work on what issues are raising their head here this evening.

Please remember one thing, we are all the solution, and semantics never helped anyone.

Love to All of you


Zedd

Hiya Zeddo,

I'm glad we could share a synchronicity. :original: Take your time responding. And amen to the semantics comment. lol Have a great one!

[BROOK]

Thanks, BROOK, for your comments and your help on this. Let me know if oyu need any help on the page or anything else. I have a whole slew of skills in many areas just itching to be used. I have been colecting my thoughts on voice recorder. As soon as I get through the recordings and filter the gibberish, I'll be back to share. Thanks again for the help and encouragement.

We will for sure pm you shortly....just getting started...there will be plenty for you to do...glad you have the skills...wishing I had more :lol3:

[Malynda]

We all have our skills and for what we currently lack, there are others, books and the internet. ;)

[Zeddo]

...

[rhythm]

Can i realy recomend that if you havent

already watched ....:trumpet:.....

Project Camelot

Bil and Kerry interviewing
David ICKE ,

with much info on

how to be the change .

you do watch it ...

i found it most

inlightening ,


its a long but worthwile interview ....

[BROOK]

Can i realy recomend that if you havent

already watched ....:trumpet:.....

Project Camelot

Bil and Kerry interviewing
David ICKE ,

with much info on

how to be the change .

you do watch it ...

i found it most

inlightening ,


its a long but worthwile interview ....

Good suggestion :thumb_yello: Problem ...reaction...solution....gotta be on our toes :wub2:

[futureyes]

be the change you want to see ...

i feel moving forward really is about BEing the change ... it stems from our core ... our hearts ... this is where the pure intention of the new way is derived from ... each of us ... individually ... then moving together ... as one because we will have the same purpose ...

individually ... we are not the same ... good thing ... this world would be somewhat mundane if we were all clones of each other ...

individually i feel we are changing within ... metamorphosis feels to be spreading to many now ... we're leaving behind the contained quarters we once existed within ... expanding our selves and moving into authenticity ... like butterflies yes ... but not a two week life span ... rather ... living infinitely ...

as we move from the ways of old ... confinement of fear ... to the new ... we begin to feel and come to know what our purpose may be ... we will experience greater fulfillment in how we live ... conviction of living our truth ... and passion with what we create ...

we are individuals ... our personal interests in life will become much more defined within us ... externally we will bring our passions for life to this world in our unique ways ... what brilliancy this will bring in the future to the mosaic of life ...

is there a right or wrong way to locate our truth ... i don't believe there is ... there are umpteen unique paths ... not all paths are for everyone ... but the path that resonates within our hearts ... this we know to be the appropriate path for us ... all appropriate paths lead to oneness of being ...

be the change you want to see ...

is there a right or wrong way to change this world for the betterment of all ... i don't believe so ... we cannot make another change ... we can allow for their change ... their metamorphosis ... we can bring others to awareness that they CAN expand ... that their life CAN be different ... that this world CAN be the change we want to see ...

we cannot "make" others change ... we can though bring awareness of what is and what can be ...

and whilst bringing awareness sparks the change within others ... this then is appropriate for their own journeys ... all paths lead to oneness ...

however we bring awareness to this world at this time ... i believe has significance ... we have a beneficial window of opportunity in this time place ... it is now ... bringing awareness to others can only lead to raising the vibration of love in this world ... when the higher frequencies pick up momentum ... guess what occurs ... lower frequencies begin to dissolve ... it is just how it is ...

we cannot make another do anything ... the new way of peace must be created by way of free will ... free will allows knowing of truth to the core ... once known ... it remains ... there is no going back ... only onwards ...

we can bring awareness and hold the space for ALL ... to locate their own truth ... live it ... hence create the change they too want to see in this world ... our world ...

all lanterns are uniquely ... intricately and beautifully designed ... there is no right or wrong patterns ... all lanterns have the potential of shining their light ...

allow another to shine brilliantly ... respect them for their original design ... bring awareness to them to know they ARE lanterns ...

once they know who they are ... allow them to illuminate their own light from within ... as you do yours ...

all lanterns illuminate this world ... brilliantly ...

i believe the significance at this point ... lies within awareness ... the window to the new is wide open ... allowing others to know there is a window ... allows them to see through it ... with clarity ... their truth ... and what really is ...

:wub2:

[BROOK]

Futureyes...you always have the most beautiful way of expressing yourself....

What you say is so absolute....grounding.....insightful :thumb_yello:

:harp: Music to my ears :wub2:
Bless you Sweet lady :wub2:

[rhythm]

Futureyes...you always have the most beautiful way of expressing yourself....

What you say is so absolute....grounding.....insightful :thumb_yello:

:harp: Music to my ears :wub2:
Bless you Sweet lady :wub2:




I will as ALLWAYS SECOND THAT ......
what a bleesing to know you all ...

[rhythm]

As each of us raise in conciousness

collectively ...

shifts and changes

folow ... naturaly ..

if you have started

continue on

and rest in calm assurance ....but not complacent,,

listen to your intuition...

it will tell you what to do... and where to be ..


the all that is

knows what

is and what will be ..

i no longer doubt

it will out ....

the clues are all around you ..

playing itself out ....

LOOK LEARN AND LISTEN ..
we are the change ...:wink2:

[Zeddo]

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[Zeddo]

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[mudra]

http://blog.shivart.com/images/samuraisoleil.jpg

Protectors of the world
And guardians of the Ways
Of gods and buddhas,
The techniques of Peace
Enable us to meet every challenge.

The Art of Peace is medicine for a sick world. There is evil and disorder in the world because people
have forgotten that all things emanate from one source. Return to that source and leave behind all
self-centered thoughts, petty desires, and anger. Those who are possessed by nothing possess everything.

Now and again, it is necessary to seclude yourself among deep mountains and hidden valleys to restore
your link to the source of life. Breathe in and let yourself soar to the ends of the universe;
breathe out and bring the cosmos back inside. Next, breathe up all fecundity and vibrancy of the earth.
Finally, blend the breath of heaven and the breath of earth with your own, becoming the Breath of Life itself.

Day after day
Train your heart out,
Refining your technique:
Use the one to strike the Many!
That is the discipline of the Warrior.

The true meaning of the term samurai is one who serves and adheres to the power of love.


"The Art of Peace" a collection of quotes by Morihei Ueshiba


Always follow your heart.
Love is our essence

Kindness
mudra

[Malynda]

That was inspiring. Thank you, mudra.

[Zeddo]

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[BROOK]

Ditto :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

found a good source of information.... check it out

http://permanentpeace.org/source/tradition.html
The Vedic Tradition
The use of groups of peace-creating experts is time-tested, stemming from the Vedic tradition—the most ancient source of knowledge about consciousness and meditation.
The Vedic (VAY-dik) tradition of knowledge, based on the extensive Vedic literature, is the oldest tradition of knowledge in the world. Though it has been long preserved in India, this traditional wisdom has been almost lost in recent centuries—due in part to repeated foreign invasions. The Vedic tradition includes detailed information on a wide range of topics—from astronomy to music, architecture to health care, administration to economy. But it is all based on the knowledge of consciousness—including technologies of consciousness, and evolution to the highest state of consciousness (enlightenment).
In recent years, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (http://permanentpeace.org/source/founder.html) has brought this ancient wisdom to light. He has gathered the varied elements of the Vedic tradition into a comprehensive and objectively
verified science of consciousness. In this Vedic science, consciousness is considered far more than a by-product of brain activity. Instead, the individual mind is described as an apparently localized fluctuation of an underlying, unbounded field of consciousness (http://permanentpeace.org/technology/tc.html). As a wave, when it settles down, gains the status of the unbounded ocean, so the individual human mind, when it settles down to its state of least excitation (Transcendental Consciousness (http://permanentpeace.org/technology/tc.html), the fourth state of consciousness (http://permanentpeace.org/technology/verified.html)), gains the status of the unified field—the infinite intelligence at the basis of the universe.
The predicted results include (1) individual evolution to higher states of consciousness and (2) the creation of world peace. Hundreds of scientific studies have validated these Vedic predictions.
Note: People sometimes assume that the Vedic wisdom is merely a cultural tradition, relevant only in India. However, Newton’s laws of motion are not English or Christian, nor Einstein’s theory of relativity German or Jewish. The laws of nature are true for all people in all cultures at all times. Now that central tenets of the Vedic wisdom have been verified scientifically—the unified field (http://permanentpeace.org/theory/peace.html#1), Transcendental Consciousness (http://permanentpeace.org/theory/peace.html#2), individual evolution (http://permanentpeace.org/theory/peace.html#3), and the power of peace-creating experts (http://permanentpeace.org/theory/peace.html#4)—objective evidence indicates that Vedic knowledge is universally valid and useful for people from every culture, tradition and walk of life.
The rediscovery of Greek thought in the Renaissance five hundred years ago spurred the growth of modern society. On the basis of scientific research already published, the rediscovery of the Vedic knowledge of consciousness—including powerful technologies of consciousness for individual growth and world peace—promises a transformation of human civilization far more profound.

http://permanentpeace.org/images/inside_r_gradient.jpg

[Malynda]

That is wonderful information, Brook. Thanks for posting it here. The Permanent Peace site is fantastic. :thumb_yello:

[Zeddo]

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