Peggy Kane Interview Vol 1 - Reptilian Agenda [Archive] - Old Project Avalon Forum (ARCHIVE)

Steve_G

02-24-2009, 04:55 PM

I've seen both of them, though a couple of parts from Vol 2 are missing from youtube. But I completely agree with orthodoxymoron about the lack of interest- I also think that people just don't want to hear about it. Collier said it over 10 years ago and it's just as true now. Peggy Kane threatens a lot of belief systems and gets slated for it, just as Alex Collier, David Icke etc have been.

I first saw them a couple of weeks ago so I posted the links in a couple of the very few reppie threads- zero interest. The subject of reptilians has been largely missed by the PC interviews- it's mentioned in passing by some of the witnesses but nothing more.

Personally when I saw them, especially Vol 1, it was like finding a huge piece of the jigsaw. What she said connected numerous events in my life, both minor and major, and visiting her website filled in more blanks.

I'm not saying she's right about everything of course, but I do feel it's a subject that has to be properly investigated if people are going to figure out what's really going on. I think there's a lot more truth than error in what she says.

Antonia

02-24-2009, 05:11 PM

I tried to watch... both have been removed from youtube... darn!

orthodoxymoron

02-24-2009, 05:14 PM

Antonia, try these links:

UFO HYPOTHESIS VOLUME ONE(Part 1 of 24): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLnHsPhihs.

UFO HYPOTHESIS VOLUME TWO(Part 1 of 24): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNDwiifO-eU&feature=related.

I have become very suspcious of large sections of my religious upbringing...yet I am equally suspicious of new age transformation and eastern mysticism. I was at a Whole Life Expo many years ago...and I was speaking with a lady who commented that the human mind was very susceptible to self-delusion. I can't get that comment out of my mind. We can angrily reject one load of bs...as we cheerfully accept a brand-new load of bs. Perhaps we need to learn how to think openly, yet critically. This may involve a huge amount of emotional and spiritual trauma...especially if malevolent entities(of whatever nature) don't want us to really figure out what they are really up to. They may have the ability to divert our thoughts...or wear us out when we begin to threaten their secret activities. I can't help but think that there are many people in the alphabet agencies who really see things very clearly...but don't dare say a word...because the public wouldn't believe them anyway...and the few who did would go nuts. Besides, the PTB would eliminate them in a nasty accident, perhaps. So...they live lives of quiet desperation. This is probably true for many of the elites, as well. Oh, what a tangled deal this is...

Steve_G

02-24-2009, 05:33 PM

Here's Vol 1 on Google Video, only 2 parts but bigger downloads.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=692524212659068187&ei=jS6kSePPOoyiiQLYudXQAQ&q=peggy+kane

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2280703618056368717&ei=jS6kSePPOoyiiQLYudXQAQ&q=peggy+kane

Steve_G

02-24-2009, 06:01 PM

I have become very suspcious of large sections of my religious upbringing...yet I am equally suspicious of new age transformation and eastern mysticism. I was at a Whole Life Expo many years ago...and I was speaking with a lady who commented that the human mind was very susceptible to self-delusion. I can't get that comment out of my mind. We can angrily reject one load of bs...as we cheerfully accept a brand-new load of bs. Perhaps we need to learn how to think openly, yet critically. This may involve a huge amount of emotional and spiritual trauma...especially if malevolent entities(of whatever nature) don't want us to really figure out what they are really up to. They may have the ability to divert our thoughts...or wear us out when we begin to threaten their secret activities. I can't help but think that there are many people in the alphabet agencies who really, really see things very clearly...but don't dare say a word...because the public wouldn't believe them...and the few who did would go nuts. Besides, the PTB would eliminate them in a nasty accident, perhaps. So...they live quiet lives of desperation. This is probably true for many of the elites, as well.

I know that at least one member of this forum has seen a reptilian first-hand in this world but doesn't want to talk about it publicly because it shocked them to the core of their being. I can relate to that- all the research in the world doesn't mean a damned thing until you find yourself in the same room as one of them. There isn't much room for comfortable doubt or scepticism afterwards.

I believe "the veil" or whatever you want to call it is getting thinner, and these kinds of encounters are going to happen more and more frequently. It's also important to remember that they are NOT gods, they are NOT unbeatable and, perhaps most importantly, that we DO have allies.

Antaletriangle

02-24-2009, 06:18 PM

Yeah,Pegster's understandings tend to fit in with the article that was posted by Param.The IS-BE alien talking to Matilda concerning the electromagnetic grid that holds our souls in perpetual incarnations on earth.

orthodoxymoron

02-24-2009, 07:53 PM

Antaletriangle: Thank-you for this thread. Could you edit the links in your first post to include links which presently work. Someone shut down the original links. Creepy. There are some links which work in a couple of the posts above. Thanx...and keep up the good work!:original:

Blisstasista

02-24-2009, 09:18 PM

I further sense that if I really did know all of the details...I would literally go insane. Researchers beware! I am shocked to see the virtually non-existant interest in this type of thread. :mfr_omg:
:mfr_omg:I saw all of them. I could not stop watching them. I feel exactly like you do. God, what parts are true, and what parts are disinformation? It was so crazy, but something inside of me believes her. :mfr_omg:

Steve_G

02-25-2009, 01:36 PM

His isn't the only name on the site people would recognise.

orthodoxymoron

02-25-2009, 06:41 PM

I tend to agree with a lot of Peggy Kane's conceptual conclusions...but I keep thinking that the beings on the 'other side' are playing games with her. She views the malevolents as being in charge...with the benevolents having limited access to Earth. If this is true(as I think it is)...then information from the 'other side' must be considered very suspect. Peggy admits to being burned in the past. I admire her honesty...yet I think she may still be believing the wrong voices. They may mix truth with error. They don't call it deception for nothing. The terrifying after death stories are hard for me to swallow. When we die...we may be fighting the same bad guys we were fighting while in physical form...and some terrorizing may occur...if we fall for it. But I doubt that our astral bodies are murdered and eaten. I don't expect heaven or hell when I die...and I don't expect to be astrally murdered on Mars...and put in a Martian Meat Locker.
I'm expecting to review my pathetic life:wall::lmao:...and then get recycled for more fun!:wall: But who knows...I may be in for a big surprise!:mfr_omg::lightsabre:

Blisstasista

02-25-2009, 09:07 PM

I'm expecting to revue my pathetic life:wall::lmao:...and then get recycled for more fun!:wall: But who knows...I may be in for a big surprise!:mfr_omg::lightsabre:

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

solitaryman

02-26-2009, 01:13 AM

In my ignorance,Ihave challenge god and the devil with a plan to kill them both.

Steve_G

03-07-2009, 10:54 AM

Has anyone here actually tried the reverse speech techniques that she talks about? I've been having a go at it over the last week or so with some rather interesting results.

burgundia

03-07-2009, 02:51 PM

Has anyone here actually tried the reverse speech techniques that she talks about? I've been having a go at it over the last week or so with some rather interesting results.

Will you share those results with us here? i am very interested....

orthodoxymoron

03-07-2009, 04:03 PM

If anyone has not watched David Icke interview Credo Mutwa...please do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf0o4TkoObo&playnext_from=PL&feature=PlayList&p=50E8F07A5386234E&index=1&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL. As always...I don't know which parts are true and which parts are folklore. If mostly true...the interview adds many pieces to the Reptillian puzzle. I'm sort of hoping that most of it is NOT true! Here are a couple of short videos on Reptillians which are quite creepy: 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTcF-7opGLU. 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq1SgXIKI3U. The truth is down there!

Steve_G

03-07-2009, 04:16 PM

Czymra

03-07-2009, 05:23 PM

I'll share what I can. I'm about to go out for a bit but I'll post what I'm able to when I get back- I warn you now though that I only have a little I'm able to share due to the golden rule of Avalon.

First thing to do is have a look at this:

http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/instructions-for-listening-to-reverse-speaking-and-evp/

The pdf is free, though she welcomes donations. Of main interest is the section on metaphors starting on page 12.

Sorry but what's the golden rule of Avalon?
As for the reptilians, I'd love it if there was more substance to it. David Icke is the one guy I tend to believe from beginning to the end. The reptilian deal however, I never really grasped. It just seems too far out.

Jacqui D

03-07-2009, 08:00 PM

Just watched video of this intriguing interview. I have found this information is exactly how i have felt about things for a long time now.
Nothing shocks me regarding the astral world i have had a feeling about this as i have said before, the lower astral is still being manipulated as we are in this false reality.
Interesting about the bodies being shipped to mars, i have often wondered if i was on mars at some stage i have distant memories of such a place, it has been said on this site that body parts are being moved from underground bases and even hospitals which have hidden underground tunnels for this very reason.
The killing children however upsetting it is in the lower astral probably does happen, children are being raped, killed in this reality on earth so no difference there then.
This will shock many who think that once they die they will escape this hell on Earth but i have known for a long while that the astral world is just as bad because they are fooled into thinking they are somewhere safe given false memories or even wiping then.
The reptilians are in control of this earth and the astral also we are there main supply of food.
This lady knows her stuff i have to agree with everything she says.

Now i know why my late mother and father and relatives have never given me false hope when i have had readings in the past.
I do not go to psychics anymore when i found that the famous Colin Fry was the son of a well known ufo investigator and could not understand why he would not give his mother information from his so called guardian the MAGI.

I was given messages years ago of on coming events i thought i was being giving messages of hope but i realised i was being duped just as Peggy revealed from Francis.
I do not believe in any chanelling anymore i am also sceptical with the mass meditation which is taking place here on this very site.
I hope that when eventually i leave this body on death that i am not trapped by the net as Peggy puts it, if that is so then we have no chance of escape which is very depressing indeed.
Although this interview is a very bleak one i feel she is right.

Oh by the way i have had an encounter with the reptilians, i did suffer at there hands they are evil and now i fear i may have an implant inserted in my head for manipulation and enslaving me.
They also branded me on my arm the mark is still there today.

Steve_G

03-07-2009, 11:17 PM

Hi guys. Bit of a long post, but the back-story is very relevent so please bear with me.

Jacqui D, funny you should mention about the channelling- that's what prompted me to really look into this. I'm currently writing a book, the core material of which came to me in a rather unusual way. I had a 'chance' meeting with a medium who gave me an impromptu reading at a friend's house. I'd never met him before but he was pretty spot-on with the things he said to me about recent events in my life.

He also said that a medicine chief was bringing me a ruby (symbol of clarity), and that confirmation would come through Timothy in the physical over the next few days.

I thought he was off base on that one. One of my oldest and closest friends is a Timothy, but he's about as spiritual as a brick- never had any interest, and as he was the only Tim I knew I had serious doubts.

A week passed and nothing, so I shrugged and put it down to a miss. They guy had been pretty good generally so I wasn't bothered by it, and he'd said some stuff it would have been impossible for him to know. I felt it had been a beneficial encounter and left it at that.

10 days after the reading Tim phoned me, and asked if I'd ever heard of Red Cloud. I just started laughing and told him "no, but I've been waiting for this call." He went on to tell me that the friend he's living with is the great granddaughter of Estelle Roberts, widely regarded as one of the best channelling mediums of last century. Her guide, Red Cloud, was a native American Indian. While Tim and his friend were clearing out her mother's garage they found boxes of transcripts of channelled spiritual teachings that had come from him., and Tim said straight away that he thought I should take a look at them.

There are hundreds of them. Red Cloud stated that he was a member of the Great White Brotherhood, a group of ascended masters that had chosen to stay and help humanity evolve. The transcripts seem benevolent enough on first reading and I thought they would make a good book. I'd always been leery of channellers on the basis that you could never know who or what was being channelled, but having done some research on Estelle and how she operated throughout her life I had no doubt that she was an honest, selfless and hard-working woman. I still have no doubts about that.

Anyhoo, I got a book deal sorted out and I've been doing the grunt work of copying them onto the computer. But there has always been a nagging doubt that something wasn't right. As I've been copying the transcripts there have been things said that just do not sit right with me because they conflict with my own experiences.

When I saw the Peggy Kane interview a lot of things clicked into place. Like I said earlier in this thread it was like finding a huge piece of the jigsaw, and lots of personal experiences slotted effortlessly into place. They made sense for the first time and the whole that was put together REALLY resonates strongly. Experiences since have confirmed that picture for me even further.

I found some audio recordings from a guy who is supposedly channelling Estelle herself. Again, Estelle says things in these channelled sessions that conflict with what I know. So I got hold of the software necessary to do the reversals. It was the first time I'd tried it, and I was blown away with what I got. These were as clear as a bell.

In the first 80 seconds of the recording Estelle (talking through the channel) is talking about America just after the Europeans got there.

Forward: And how the native peoples and your early settlers sat together and feasted.

Reverse: So deep within, he is Orion initiate.

Later, when she is talking about how Eisenhower was meeting with the ETs:

Reverse: See, so lame. Dunno if she's referring to Eisenhower or the story itself.

And this one sent shivers down my spine. She's talking about how she was in London during WWII during an air raid. Red Cloud told her to speak to people she saw searching through a bombed-out porch and give a message of hope.

Forward: ...looking through the rubble, for perhaps their loved ones.

Reverse: My lips smiled.

Tim also found a load of old reel-to-reel audio tapes of channelling sessions with Red Cloud from the 1950's. I'm currently trying to find a cheap way of getting the material digitized so I can RS it- when "MY lips smiled" came up it raised a question that I need answering before my book is going any further.

Until you hear it yourself it's hard to believe just how clear these reversals can be. You're just listening to gibberish, then all of a sudden it's like someone has cut-and-pasted forward speech right in the middle of the noise. It really is incredible when you hear this stuff because you know absolutely 100% that nobody has messed with the audio in any way; the only person who has touched it is you.

RS is really easy to do. I'm using a professional program, but there's a free download available from Peggy's site that does the same. All you do is play the audio backwards. On the software I've got there are numerous bells and whistles but I haven't used any of them.

Try it for yourselves on any audio you care to. I've found that what I'm picking up is directly relevant to the material I'm listening to. It does seem to work just like Peggy says it does.

All thoughts and comments welcome.

Jacqui D

03-07-2009, 11:54 PM

Steve G, i'm going to have a listen to those.
There has been so much bad publicity with chanelling i feel some can get pulled along with the flow so to speak.
Blossom Goodchild is one of those that comes to mind, i have lost faith a little with these so called chanellers.
Look how that little fiasco turned out, people were so sure something was about to happen only to be left in a confused state of mind.

I'm just not sure anymore how can we be sure that any info that comes through is not manipulated by spirits or even reptiles.
I also have my doubts with ascended masters.
In 1984, my sister who was a follower of Sanmat at the time, i must add here that she has now left this money making sham of a cult, travelled to India to be blessed by her master.
To cut a very long story short what she saw opened her eyes to a lot of conspiracy that goes within these circles.

When the master appeared to float in front of her she thought jet lag or the like must be playing tricks on her she looked away for a second to turn back and see a large golden dragon on stage where the master stood.
She was in awe of it until she began to realise this wasn't an ascended master.

This was long before she was aware of the reptilian race.
Now she realises that the group of people she had become involved in were something much more sinister, this was a meeting of mass energy extraction she managed to last the few days out there without letting her feeling been known but when she came home she decided Sanmat was not for her.
The golden dragon opened her eyes and she wanted out!

After hearing Peggy Kanes interview about how Francis was joking with her and feeding her false information for his own gratification i thought yes they can do that.
This got me thinking you can never really be sure can you what or who is coming through and what there agenda is.

Steve_G

03-08-2009, 12:29 AM

Very true Jacqui. I've only ever seen one channeller, a really nice lady at a circle I went to occasionally. She was channelling some guy who spoke with an Italian accent. It was genuine channelling- I was pretty new to spiritual stuff at the time and the energies made me light headed to begin with, and the guide seemed very wise and profound at the time. A few weeks later I got a written transcript of it, and realised that he hadn't said anything any one of us couldn't have come up with.

The Goodchild episode is a great example of that. I haven't reversed anyone channelling ETs but it's definitely on my list.

I've always shied away from groups, especially heirarchical ones.

I have to say that I don't believe things are as bleak as Peggy makes out on that video. The reppies are not gods, despite what they would like us to believe. I know for a fact they can be beaten in the astral, and I'd bet dollars to donuts the same is true here- otherwise why would they hide? We are not as helpless as she seems to think we are- we are NOT dependent on outside help, though it's certainly welcome as long as their intentions are pure. Things are changing rapidly and we're here to see it first hand. I know it's a terrible cliche but it's true when they say it's darkest before the dawn.

The net isn't as impenetrable as she makes out. It never has been. That's why the reppies expend so much time and energy trying to keep humanity as scared, isolated and hopeless as they can. It's like the door on a microwave oven- it only keeps in certain frequencies that correspond to the size of the mesh, in this case the wavelengths of fear, guilt, hate etc. I think Bob Dean said that what "they" fear the most is us realising who and what we truly are, and he's spot on. Once you get past that barrier it's a whole different story.

Jacqui D

03-08-2009, 12:46 AM

I trully hope your right Steve G!
The days when having a reading seems but a distant memory now, i think so many have forwarded in leaps and bounds and that side of it seems the tiny step to what we have now learnt about ET's etc and stargates and the list goes on.

We all hold that glimmer of greatness within us, a strong sense that we have something that can cast these manipulators out so to speak, lets hope we have the strength and the power to do so.

The last ever reading i had was a strange one the guy who gave me that particular one just looked at me and smiled and said why are you here?
To which i answered i have many questions that i need to ask.
He said You do not need to ask those questions you have the answers inside you there is nothing i can tell you, you know don't you?
To this answer i was a little taken back and gave him a questionable look too which he smiled again and said i think your days of readings are over my dear.
Oh is that so? i asked.
He simply said Yes!
I came away feeling let down that there was some big mystery he wasn't telling me but of course i did understand this last reading was going to be my last i finally got it!

burgundia

03-08-2009, 09:16 AM

I've always shied away from groups, especially heirarchical ones.

I have to say that I don't believe things are as bleak as Peggy makes out on that video. The reppies are not gods, despite what they would like us to believe. I know for a fact they can be beaten in the astral, and I'd bet dollars to donuts the same is true here- otherwise why would they hide? We are not as helpless as she seems to think we are- we are NOT dependent on outside help, though it's certainly welcome as long as their intentions are pure. Things are changing rapidly and we're here to see it first hand. I know it's a terrible cliche but it's true when they say it's darkest before the dawn.

The net isn't as impenetrable as she makes out. It never has been. That's why the reppies expend so much time and energy trying to keep humanity as scared, isolated and hopeless as they can. It's like the door on a microwave oven- it only keeps in certain frequencies that correspond to the size of the mesh, in this case the wavelengths of fear, guilt, hate etc. I think Bob Dean said that what "they" fear the most is us realising who and what we truly are, and he's spot on. Once you get past that barrier it's a whole different story.

I share your views that we are not completely helpless. It always happens so in my dreams that whenever there is some kind of danger, i always face it, I never run away, i do not have fear and i am always victorious. In my last very vivid dream ( though it was several months ago) with the power of my mind and will I made a negative entity virtually dissapear into the thin air.
I Think that our potential is the truth that has been hidden from us. Once we realise that, the fear is gone.

PK47

03-08-2009, 03:40 PM

There are more stuffs regarding reptilians and government/military involvement:

James Bartley - UFOs, MILABS, & Reptilians:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqsF9JDBb9w&feature=PlayList&p=EF306538A82D9CCB&index=0&playnext=1

Phil Schneider:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5210571274594765911

Stewart Swerdlow - Blue Blood, True Blood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2pEvbDv3gQ&feature=PlayList&p=0C6FF6F4AC8D2F34&index=0&playnext=1

Karla Turner - UFO & MIlitary Abductions - 1994 Lecture:
Part1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2275012936172755889
Part2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6946558402223909519
Part3: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4938198104732286007
Part4: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1356075163646876025

Dr. Karla Turner - The UFO Masquerade - April 8, 1995:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6009375605030549190

The Reptilian Agenda with Credo Mutwa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5qtpMjnVRg&feature=PlayList&p=EB820990098943E6&index=0&playnext=1

Alex Collier First Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nnYfxDIXyo&feature=PlayList&p=59502A98A360614C&index=0&playnext=1

Stephen Denman reveals real history of Earth and Illuminati:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSh30EMsaUA&feature=PlayList&p=0F2470BEF82AED7A&index=0&playnext=1

Revelations of a Mother Goddess - Arizona Wilder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD9Tg8nJb7A&feature=PlayList&p=EC839876575F3FAB&index=0&playnext=1

Peggy Kane Interview Vol. 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLnHsPhihs&feature=PlayList&p=E590AEAFA200A5D7&index=0&playnext=1

Arizona Wilder on Goverment Mind Controlled Slaves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aptkO-OySPc&feature=PlayList&p=0A77023E6226B119&index=0&playnext=1

Stewart Swerdlow - History of Mind Control:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1243402004150073691

Alex Collier Moon Mars Lecture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4cJXuv5DAc&feature=PlayList&p=C0902C7033817D57&index=0&playnext=1

George Kavassilas - Galactic Confederation of Light message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kPs8tYvSG4&feature=PlayList&p=70C7907DDFFF04AE&index=0&playnext=1

etc..

orthodoxymoron

03-09-2009, 04:08 AM

Thank-you for the links PK47. Here are a couple more: 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1rntaHj5fY. 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-WTXZvcDE&feature=related.
I agree with you Steve_G. Evil is a royal pain...whether it is alien, human, or spiritual...but it can...and will be beaten. I like Peggy, and agree with a lot of what she says...but I think the rascals on the other side lie a lot. They are like the man behind the curtain...more bluff and show than actual substance. They have been fooling us for thousands of years...but that is coming to an end...soon.

Steve_G

03-09-2009, 11:33 AM

Thanks for the links guys- some I've seen and some I haven't. Downloading James Bartley at the moment, looks really good so far.

Czymra

03-09-2009, 11:51 AM

Thank-you for the links PK47. Here are a couple more: 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1rntaHj5fY. 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-WTXZvcDE&feature=related. I agree with you Steve_G. Evil is a royal pain...whether it is alien, human, or spiritual...but it can...and will be beaten. I like Peggy, and agree with a lot of what she says...but I think the rascals on the other side lie a lot. They are like the man behind the curtain...more bluff and show than actual substance. They have been fooling us for thousands of years...but that is coming to an end...soon.

That's a joke is it? Is it really David Icke who produced that?
However, if you want more videos of that sort, just look for 'the residents'.

Steve_G

03-09-2009, 12:00 PM

I think it's a joke, and I somehow doubt Icke was involved. Quite catchy though :original:

Karen

03-10-2009, 10:40 AM

OMG! Have I died and gone to heaven?

No?

So few people can actually get their head around this reppy topic. I've been looking into it for at least 15 years. I currently live with my biological family in a small Oregon town and the main topic of late has been the Jr. High sports games. I wanna make some real choice comments about how competitive sports is great training to turn the little ones into loosh generators and cannon fodder drones. :zip:

Another good source for related information is Don Croft.

http://www.whale.to/b/theosophical.html
http://www.whale.to/b/indigo.html
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/disinfoweapon23oct05.shtml

I simply can't swallow any channeled material anymore. I spent many years reading and believing sweet lies prepared for us by TPTB. I'm tending to believe now what Don Croft and Don Bradley have revealed about the "New Age Stable" people listed below (plus many more not listed there). There is also the Tavistock Institute of social engineering that John Coleman has written about. Sick, sick, sick people rule the world and lead the sheeple around to their willing destruction.

Quote from:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=14331
Talking about DB or Don Bradley

"Six or seven years before we met he had come to understand that the Great White Brotherhood is a satanic organization and that, essentially, everything and everyone he believed passionately in was false. An Illuminati oracle has to be kept from this truth so that his master can send him out into the ethers like a kite to retrieve information that the spiritually degraded master can't access. The Great White Brotherhood uses this retrieved information and it's subsidiaries, including the CIA and British MI6, to create disinformation and thus infiltrate and then corrupt the legitimately progressive movements and otherwise-discerning, inquisitive individuals in the world.

"He began opposing them instead of supporting them and for years his former masters gave him a lot of slack, even allowing him to go on the lecture circuits with conspiracy authors and militia leaders and tell the public what he knew.

"Torkum Sassarian had died right before DB woke up, by the way. He showed me a photo of a gathering of New Age gurus, with Sassarian in their midst, taken in 1987 on the grounds of the Masonic Temple in Sedona, Arizona. During that conference they were designing the mind control agenda that would be called, 'the Harmonic Convergence.' Present were DB, Sassarian, Gregg Braden, Drunvalo Melchizedek, Jean Houston, Shirley MacLaine, James Twyman and a dozen other people whose names I didn't recognize,... "

orthodoxymoron

03-10-2009, 03:45 PM

Thank-you for the links Karen. Perhaps learning how to think openly yet critically should be taught...before moving on to origins and aliens. We are so emotional and easily swayed...this way...or that way. The PTB and crooks of all stripes know this...and see us coming a mile away. :sneaky2::original:

Jacqui D

03-10-2009, 04:16 PM

Thanks for those links Karen i'm gonna take a look real soon, with all this information not enough hours in the day phew!
I sooo agree who do you believe anymore!

So many pulling the veil over the eyes so to speak, but i stand my ground by saying HUH! well what i feel is right that Peggy has some good info in that video, she is the first i have heard that discredits life after death being all harmonious and a heavenly state.

I was interested in the cell memory she stated about and how it was within all our organs.
This is so true i even wrote book on this and had it published be it in fictional form because of the content i felt being a unknown author it would be hard to get this info out.
But our bodies and organs do hold cell memory, just look at the facts when patients have received new organs many take on the traits of those donors, some have said that the organ has taken over their life completely.
This proves to me that the memory cells are very strong if it can override the new bodies functions.

Karen

03-10-2009, 10:52 PM

Right on Jacqui D - long time ago I read about the belief some have, that there is a soul catcher on the back side of the moon. After you die, do you really want to go into the light and be recycled back into another loosh fest for the reptilians? Maybe if you turn away from the light you can go out and anywhere you can think of- and even become a star system if you wish to.

Loosh - first I heard of it was on Peggy's site and I had to go look it up on the web. Robert Monroe had some information about it and how this whole planet is set up for maximum suffering and loosh fest for those that feed off of it.

Steve_G

03-10-2009, 10:57 PM

I don't know what this means yet, but given who it came from I trust it 1000%.

When you cross, only exit through the East gate, NOT the West.

I assume it will make sense at the time. If not, it's only little- won't cost more than a couple of synapses to store. :original:

Karen

03-10-2009, 11:00 PM

Here's an edit to the link above that didn't work:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=14331.

When you copy an avalon link with an ... in the middle, you have to go back to the original source and copy from there. I have presented this Don Croft and DB info on this forum and others several times - without much response.

Thanks to all - it nice to find a little group with some interest in this topic ...

orthodoxymoron

03-10-2009, 11:24 PM

Go east young man...unless you wanna be loosh for the snakes!

Steve_G

03-11-2009, 01:12 AM

Dunno what loosh is but it doesn't sound pleasant. East it shall be! But I might head west just a little bit first with a weapon and a ton of scores to settle. :lightsabre: :wink2:

Blisstasista

03-11-2009, 02:31 AM

Hey You Guys,

I really appreciate this thread. I have seen just about all this links posted here, and then i remembered someone else you guys should check out:

His name is Red Elk and he is a Medicine Man who live in my home state of Washington. He has been a guest on Coast to Coast am, and has talked about the lizzard people among other beings who live underground. If you google him or look on www.youtube.com you will find some of his videos. Also, somebody on PA mentioned Kyle Griffith so I googled him, and came across a book he wrote titled "War in Heaven". The web site has notes and commentary on Griffith's book. It's Pretty interesting material, and it correlates with some of the stuff Peggy Kline talks about. :thumb_yello: Creepy and depressing though. I have to believe what some of you have said about us humans being pretty special and having something of value. I think we are stronger than others would have us believe.
:original:

Czymra

03-11-2009, 04:00 AM

I'm happy to see that there are now three threads on Avalon that try to cut through the BS.
This time we might just about make it. ;)

Can I have a little more details about this?
Present were DB, Sassarian, Gregg Braden, Drunvalo Melchizedek, Jean Houston, Shirley MacLaine, James Twyman and a dozen other people whose names I didn't recognize,... "

Especially, are they controlled puppets or what's the theory?

Karen

03-11-2009, 08:51 AM

I'm happy to see that there are now three threads on Avalon that try to cut through the BS.
This time we might just about make it. ;)
Can I have a little more details about this? {list of names}
Especially, are they controlled puppets or what's the theory?

Hi Czymra,

What are the other threads?

As far as more details - if you read the links I posted you can get more of the gist of it. I have read them all several times, over the years since I found them, but it's been a while since a complete read.

But yes, in general I believe they have been tricked into thinking they are someone special, like DB (Don Bradley) was. William Cooper came to believe after a number of years that he had been set up with tons of disinformation to distribute. Drunvalo, well if I remember correctly he had a gov or military job - so he could be chipped and mind controlled. Some may know they are being used, some are blackmailed, and some are clueless - and there is a lot of mind control.

I don't see Don Croft doing any naming of individuals anymore. I've seen him make some oblique references such that I don't know who he is talking about. Then on the God Like Productions forum, there is thread trashing Don Croft as evil. Of course if you are telling the truth, the attempts to discredit - the lies about you - are everywhere.

I'd really like to see John Coleman's books, about Tavistock and the 300. Here are some article links. (some may be duplicates)

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwotavistockbestkeptsecret.shtml

Here's an intro and 16 article links:
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/tavistockarticlesindex04jun04.shtml

http://www.scratchinpost.net/barefootbob/tavistok.html
-- TAVISTOCK -- THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN AMERICA

More articles
http://www.whale.to/b/tavistock.html

Exposes on the "Drugs, Sex, and Rock n Roll" plot get's up the hackles of many of the old hippies at the mere suggestion they were being led around like they had a ring in their nose. They thought they were the freedom movement.
http://www.whale.to/b/lennon.html
Why Bush & the CIA Had John Lennon Killed -- The Beatles, the Montauk Project, the Tavistock Institute and Mass Social Control © 1999 John Quinn/NewsHawk® inc.

Czymra

03-11-2009, 03:32 PM

Wow, Karen you plaster me with links.
I don't have the time to read all this!

The other threads are my Syphoning (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11303) one, Henner's 'The Truth is out there - or is it?' (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10302) one and of course this one.

Of course you might think that "Hacking the genetic Mind" is an effort along similar lines.
Be that as it may, there are too little of these 'doubt everything' threads out there. I have long since had the feeling that I'm buying into yet another crackdown. The question now is, beyond establishing a new world religion or so, what are the memes that are meant to be implanted in us by these efforts and then deduce the 'truth' from their opposite (or something along those lines).

Jacqui D

03-11-2009, 04:06 PM

I have never heard of the east and west gates Steve!
I only know that you must go forward and continue do not be swayed by anything which catches your eye left or right these are to entice you!

You will here a chord (Sound) everyone has their own chord so you will know it when it is heard, it resonates with your soul YOU WILL KNOW when the time is right.
Do not step off to the right or left continue on your journey it may be darkness for a long time but continue on, do not fear the darkness i believe no one is left behind but you must be wary do not follow the white light down that long dark tunnel!

But that's my own speculation none will really know until that time comes.

Czymra

03-11-2009, 06:19 PM

I was reading Peggy's website this morning and found this on the blog:

I'm trying to set it up so she can post here. Would be great to have her take....interpretations are nothing like the "real" thing!

Peggy Kane's website evpreversespeaking.com

Way to go. Are you waiting for contributions or is it already happening?

Jacqui D

03-11-2009, 08:27 PM

Yes this would be good if we can get Peggy on here, she has certainly started a whole different line of discussion.
Hope she gets on!:thumb_yello:

Steve_G

04-05-2009, 10:52 PM

Good news on that score Jacqui- Peggy's account is up and running so hopefully we'll be hearing from her real soon. :original:

BROOK

04-05-2009, 10:56 PM

That should be really interesting...I remember when I was listening to her stuff..I downloaded the program to listen to white noise ...I failed miserably though :sad:

Steve_G

04-05-2009, 11:04 PM

I've had some interesting results reversing normal audio but haven't done any EVP yet because I keep forgetting to buy a simple lead for my PC. I'll have to write it on my arm with black marker pen next time I go to town.

EpiphaMe

04-08-2009, 01:05 AM

"It always happens so in my dreams that whenever there is some kind of danger, i always face it, I never run away, i do not have fear and i am always victorious."
Burgundia's words...

they voice my self... dunno why my dreams are so victorious as I'm one of those that are scattered all over the place, thinking too much, etc...seemingly even harsh to others, that sort of thing... but I've been pleased to remember my dreams of victory.

Jacqui D wrote: I have never heard of the east and west gates Steve!
I only know that you must go forward and continue do not be swayed by anything which catches your eye left or right these are to entice you!

See what distractions we must deal with?

Heartfelts

orthodoxymoron

04-08-2009, 03:02 AM

Unified Serenity

05-20-2009, 12:32 PM

Hello all,

Peggy has some very interesting stuff up lately that she attributes to "The One". I am eagerly watching the signs, and feeling a level of peace that I haven't in some time.

Have a look:

Peggy's blog (http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/blog/)

Snippet:

"I’ve been working to get information for the past 3 days. This is what I have heard in the cadence of the notes. If anyone wishes, I invite you to reverse and ask if this information is valid.

This first paragraph is from the One:

“This is coming. I will not let them send you back into any time loops. Eve and I are working together to send out the calming energy. We are also getting rid of the remaining programs. They split up and hide but we are seeking them out, one by one for their destruction. The few that remain will certainly focus their energy on the people here, so don’t be surprised if within a few days, people around you seem even more stressed. It won’t last. If you understand how important you are to all of this, it will make sense that you are a prime target. Know that and then know that it is ending. They are desperate for you to lose faith. Know that without a doubt, we are at the brink now”.

End of quote.

I let my recorder run while flying back from my trip in the airplane. I got a lot of white noise and so listened to it this morning. It changes. It is not stable. The programs will speak in this carrier wave of sound. Here is a small section.

This is what it sounds like:

airplane-snippet

This is what I heard the programs saying in that airplane noise:

“While we talk the clouds are assembling

They are assembling now and it sounds like thunder.

I’m going to take hold of Eve and we’ll find their portal (NO WAY)

The One’s going to take Her, and I’m going to take hold of Her.

I’m going to stop the rains and I’m going to see them knocked out.

Now the worst is coming and our world is coming to a close.

There are no more portals.

My brain is hunting for portals, but I can’t find any

There’s one in the bedroom but it’s been closed.

There was one in the closet but it’s not working.

I have to find one so we can go.

I know there was one in the bathroom, but we were surprised to find it wasn’t operational.

I know that there is so much going on.

But they’re getting impatient and we’re trying hard to bounce them back.

But it’s not working, and we’re trying to aggravate sleepers.

But we’re surrounded and they are sending out calmness.

We’re so miserable.

We’re dying because the new world is coming closer”.

End of quote."

I'm enjoying reading what she has shared regarding the goings on in astral, The One and Eve, the net, the coming new day etc..

Enjoy the read,

Unified Serenity

PK47

05-20-2009, 02:29 PM

I don't absolutely know that reptilians exist...but they are at the top of my list of conspiracy theories! If they exist within the earth in physical form...do they astrally project to manifest in spiritual form...or do they cloak their physical bodies? Or...are there demonic entities which have nothing to do with the reptilians within the earth...who appear as reptilians and greys? Are both the human and reptilian races tormented by the same demonic entities? I don't know. Or...is the reptilian and grey phenomenon completely spiritual...and not physical in any way, shape, or form? Or have reptilians and greys been created in the deep underground military base genetics labs to provide demonic entities with physical bodies? The whole alien and ufo phenomenon seems to have both physical and spiritual components. It also seems to have both man-made and other-worldly components. I sometimes think that all of the secret government, new world order, terrorism, wars, assasinations, conspiracies, etc...are all tied into whatever the above phenomenon really is. Bill Cooper tried to figure out the 'alien presence'...but was frustrated. He saw isolated cockroaches...but he could never find the wall where the rest of the critters were! The various cover-ups and idiotic governmental actions may indicate that something very, very disturbing is going on. I would like to know the truth. On the other hand...the real truth may be too difficult for the public(of which I am one) to deal with. I don't really expect the government to blurt everything out. If I were in the government...I'd probably be trying to cover everything up too! If I were told the whole truth privately...I might totally shut-up because I might conclude that the public could never be told...and live a life of quiet desperation...as I suspect that many insiders do. However...the public should seek truth and disclosure in just about everything. When things are hidden...corruption and evil tends to multiply...and spiral out of control. Has the behind the scenes situation spiraled out of control...or have things been out of control for decades, centuries...or thousands of years?

To my understating and experience I can assure you that reptilians do exist in physical as well as in astral plane. I have personally encountered some nasty ones in astral plane. At the beginning it always ended up in nightmare but now I can easily handle using protection. If you tend to think naughty things in astral plane then you will easily encounter them :naughty: but be aware this can have psychological as well as some physical effects. Physical reptilians here on earth are mostly Lemurian Dracos. Shapeshifting which David Icke talks abt are different thing and that pertains to illuminati who are basically half humans half reptile. In general, if you understand that the physical reality is hologram and projection of mind than it's not that hard to understand shapeshifting process. If someone's body is composed of 50/50% split between human and reptilian DNA then the soul personality of that body manifests either human or reptilian appearance according to it's mind pattern. If this body is used by reptilian soul personality then it appears as reptile and to change in human form it needs to ingest human blood, hormones, organs to boost human energy as to appear in human form. The shapeshift is instantaneous process meaning atomic restructure of the whole body and organs. Change in mind pattern -> utilize reptilian DNA -> manifest physically as reptile and vice-versa.

Carol

05-21-2009, 03:33 AM

What a great thread with many great links. Thank you everyone. :thumb_yello:

After listening to George Green for these past months I find he just doesn't sit right with me. Something is off and based on some of what he shared about himself how he lives his life is off.

14 Chakras

05-21-2009, 09:07 PM

The reppies are not gods, despite what they would like us to believe. We are not as helpless as she seems to think we are- we are NOT dependent on outside help, I know it's a terrible cliche but it's true when they say it's darkest before the dawn.

Great stuff Steve. Totally agree. The solution to our problems is not going to come from some other alien race to save us from some bad one, that's a continuation of the same illusion that got us into this mess in the first place.

We are not powerless. We are individualization's of the creative consciousness behind all life, and the bad beings only have power over us when we are in the illusion that we are anything less than that.

All the 'chanellings' out there that talk about some great benevolent aliens coming down here to save us and we just have to join their gang, as far as I'm concerned, it's the same old stuff that makes us feel powerless. They want us to focus on a solution outside of ourselves, and they'll come down and be our new leaders... we already have a problem with aliens running our world, I'm not sure I want another alien race that needs spaceships to get around to save us from ourselves... I think it's time we did that for ourselves.

The solutions to this problem will not come from outside of ourselves, they will come when we take back our power and take dominion over OUR planet.

This is not the galactic federation's planet or the plaiadeans planet, this is our planet and it's up to us to take dominion over it.. :) I believe we will do that when we realize who we really are and access the God power within us.