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Machinamentum
05-19-2009, 09:42 PM
This is exactly how I thought it's going to go down, the flu will come in waves stronger and stronger but all controlled releases. They don't want another 9-11 blunder when it comes to 90% world populoation reduction.


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2009/05/2009549325610445.html


A second wave of the H1N1 virus "would be the biggest of all outbreaks the world has faced in the 21st century," the head of the World Health Organisation (WHO) has warned.

Margaret Chan said in a newspaper interview on Monday the virus could re-emerge in the months ahead "with a vengeance".

"I'm not predicting the pandemic will blow up, but if I miss it and we don't prepare, I fail. I'd rather over-prepare than not prepare," she told the Financial Times.

Portugal on Monday confirmed its first case of the new H1N1 strain, after a woman who had recently travelled back from Mexico tested positive for the virus.

"She was not seriously ill and it is several days now since she displayed any more symptoms," Ana Jorge, the Portuguese health minister, said.

"Her relatives and a group of people who travelled with her [to Mexico] have been tested and none of them have been infected."

Spain's health ministry said on Monday that the number of confirmed cases in the country has risen to 54, from 44 a day earlier, but only 11 victims are in hospital.

Twenty-five people have died from the flu, which has affected 985 people in 20 countries, according to the WHO.

One death was in the United States and the rest in Mexico.

Meanwhile, US health authorities said more than half the nation's states had reported cases of the flu with 226 confirmed infections in 30 states.

Mexico optimism

Chan's warning came a day after Felipe Calderon, the Mexican president, said his country was "in a position to overcome" the epidemic.

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"We have been able to hold or at least reduce the rate of propagation of the virus to contain the epidemic," he said.

Mexican officials are expected to decide on Monday whether to extend a five-day nationwide shutdown of public venues or allow schools and businesses to reopen later this week.

Hospitality sector representatives have said the measure was costing Mexico's economy $100m a day and threatening 450,000 jobs.

Mexican diplomats have also complained to China after dozens of their citizens were placed in quarantine despite showing no signs of having the symptoms of flu.

'No discrimination'

China's move came after a Mexican woman who arrived on a flight from Mexico was found to be suffering from the virus.Ma Zhaoxu, a spokesman for the Chinese foreign ministry, said the isolation was correct procedure and was not an act of discrimination against Mexicans.

Mexican officials said they were preparing to send a specially chartered aircraft to China to pick up any Mexicans who wish to return.

The spread of the H1N1 virus is being closely watched in South America, where a number of countries have confirmed cases and the flu season is about to begin.

The WHO's global alert currently stands at phase five - signalling that a pandemic is imminent - while phase six would mean a pandemic, or global spread, was taking place.

Before raisng the alert to level 6, the highest level, the WHO would need to see the virus spreading within communities in Europe or Asia.

The row has strained what has been a warming relationship between the two countries, with Mexico China's second-largest trade partner in Latin America behind Brazil, and its biggest export market there, according to Chinese statistics.

China was criticised for initially denying the 2003 outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome or Sars, a virus which killed almost 800 people around the world, although with the majority of cases in Hong Kong and China.

micjer
05-19-2009, 10:11 PM
How many people die each day in the US from car accidents ?




Answer
115 each day 1 every 13 minutes


Answer
40,000 people die each year in car accidents, which is the leading cause for deaths of people in the United States under the age of 35


Why isn't the WHO making it illegal to drive cars....lot more lives would be saved than a man-made virus that will reap billions $'s for big pharma.

Seashore
05-19-2009, 10:24 PM
Yeah Earthfiles.com (http://www.earthfiles.com/) has a report and podcast about A/H1N1 being a "herald wave"...

Update Podcast - May 7, 2009 - Is A/H1N1 Outbreak A “Herald Wave”
Preceding More Serious Fall 2009 Pandemic?

“I do not think we are off the hook in the United States.
I don’t think we should be complacent to think we’re not going to have it as bad as Mexico because I think if conditions were different and we were now in the Fall of 2009 and it was getting colder, we might
see much more disease here.” - Paul Glezen, M. D., Molecular Virologist

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/S/SwineFluAH1N1Electronmicro.jpg

A/H1N1 flu virus is seen in an image taken using
an electron microscope, at National Microbiology Laboratory, Public Health Agency of Canada.

pyrangello
05-19-2009, 11:03 PM
From the wall street journal last week

" The spanish flu pandemic begins with a wave of mild illness in the spring of 1918, followed by a far deadlier wave in the fall that is most lethal to young, healthy adults. The pandemic kills more than 500,000 in the U.S. and 20-50 million people worldwide making it one of the deadliest epidemics in human history. "


I personally consider this swine flu as the flare gun coming off the boat in the water, were still afloat but it's time for some help and we have only so much time to get ready.

NeoEmc2
05-19-2009, 11:21 PM
It's a shame that some of you fall victim to this fear mongering. Just to give you a clue, here are the statistics for causes of death in 2006. in the U.S. Sorry I can't give you a more recent update but hopefully you'll get the gist of it. This is all I could find for now.

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* Number of deaths: 2,426,264
* Death rate: 810.4 deaths per 100,000 population
* Life expectancy: 77. 7years
* Infant Mortality rate: 6.69 deaths per 1,000 live births

Number of deaths for leading causes of death:

* Heart disease: 631,636
* Cancer: 559,888
* Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 137,119
* Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 124,583
* Accidents (unintentional injuries): 121,599
* Diabetes: 72,449
* Alzheimer's disease: 72,432
* Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,326
* Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 45,344
* Septicemia: 34,234

Source: Deaths: Final Data for 2006, Tables B, D, 7, 30 (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr57/nvsr57_14.pdf)
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With that said, why would you even focus on this swine flu business when there are bigger things to worry about. The rate at which people die from a regular flu is higher than the death rate of the swine flu.

Focus on yourself. Become a beacon of positive energy instead of focusing on the negative.

Machinamentum
05-19-2009, 11:46 PM
No fear mongering, but this was created with a militaristic intent to kill. This isn't some cold or normal flu. So think about it.

Right now we seem to be in a act-response phase. They need to put the information into the computers to make proper calculations. If your going to engineer the most massive pot to kill they need the info. Any engineer will tell you, garbage in garbage out. The need numbers, stats and public reaction to judge and determine the next wave. If something came by and just killed billions at once, how well do you think they could control that? Also, with as much heat on the elite they can't afford to **** up again. But look, we are already catching on to this so the plans might change.

Soulmate7
05-20-2009, 01:21 AM
It's a shame that some of you fall victim to this fear mongering. Just to give you a clue, here are the statistics for causes of death in 2006. in the U.S. Sorry I can't give you a more recent update but hopefully you'll get the gist of it. This is all I could find for now.


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With that said, why would you even focus on this swine flu business when there are bigger things to worry about. The rate at which people die from a regular flu is higher than the death rate of the swine flu.

Focus on yourself. Become a beacon of positive energy instead of focusing on the negative.

How can this be fear mongering when there are suddenly 10,000 cases while the media attention is away and it is predictable that it will mutate in a more deadly form?

What are you trying to prove by posting 2006 statistics???

Young and healthy/strong people die from the Swine Flu, unlike the regular flu + this thing was created in a lab to deal with depopulation.

I agree with the part about positive energy, but don't become a victim of the aspartame-culture.

Please?

Swanny
05-20-2009, 08:44 AM
First wave was just a test I reckon :thumbdown:

micjer
05-20-2009, 11:53 AM
First wave was just a test I reckon :thumbdown:


As I was referring to earlier the first wave was really a non media event so they must be setting us up for the big one. Everyone needs to take care and do not sign up for the vaccines.

Anchor
05-20-2009, 11:57 AM
As I was referring to earlier the first wave was really a non media event so they must be setting us up for the big one. Everyone needs to take care and do not sign up for the vaccines.

If you are forced into it, ask for the vaccine to be blessed and purified for the highest and best good of all.

"I hereby ask for blessing and purification of all vaccines now in the world for the highest and best good of all."

Sorry if this was the wrong topic for that but needs must. :naughty:

This whole farce of an illuminati caused "pandemic" will fizzle.

A..

pyrangello
05-20-2009, 01:06 PM
Hey Neo, sure I'm aware there's lots of other killers out there and right now this is a minor bug. Hardly anyone is passing away from it. But here in the states this isn't flu season right now and this is a strain that is brand new. Just like my buddy who is a surgeon says " every 100 years something comes around and we are overdue". Just less than 100 years ago when the 1918 strain hit, my great grandfathers first wife and 2 children died of that, my 94 year old granny told me that 2 weeks ago and that was why the headstone was so big, all 3 were buried in the same plot.

Then my one buddy in New York said he remembers his grandmother telling him that in the winter of 1918 the ground was frozen so they couldn't bury people so families would put their passed away loved ones from the flu wrapped in a blanket at the curb for a truck to come by and pick them up . That was less than a hundred years ago. Historically speaking we are following the same pattern now as 1918. I'm not freaking out about it but it would be the right thing to do is stock up for at least a 3 month stint if you had to stay home.

Nobody knows for sure how this will all play out and if this puppy is manmade with the intent of reducing the population or natural , it's just a smart thing to do to prep as much as you can. As far as vaccines go, never got one and the only clinical testing will be done if this virus does take off will be on us it takes 6 months to create a vaccine and thats only if the strain holds its pattern. I really don't care to be a lab rat.

NeoEmc2
05-20-2009, 05:20 PM
I should have been more specific.

I don't mean that you guys posting the stuff are the fear mongers, but the people responsible for the swine flu. No one here knows who they are, all you can do is guess like everyone else.

All I'm saying is, stop worrying about the swine flu.

And to the guy who said "why are you posting stuff from 2006" I think I specifically mentioned that I posted what I found by just making a quick search. Sorry I can't give you more recent numbers, but it was just an example for me to make a point. I guess you didn't get it.

Peace

Avid
05-20-2009, 05:33 PM
We've just been very ill....
No docs
Kept ourselves to ourselves
Colloidal silver - fantastic - (you can even take it through a nebuliser).
I'm almost better but tired, and OH is still coughing a bit, but is recovering now. My lungs feel shot now - but will recover with natural remedies. My antibodies are a-buzzing thank goodness.
No vaccines
No antibiotics
No contact with family or friends (apart from through a window)
Hopefully prepared for any further 'nasties'.
Tamiflu? Please don't get it - side effects are horrid (apparently) and it's not resistant to H5N1 anyway (check out Recombinomics (recombinomics.com)).
Thanks for reading this :original::original:

Soulmate7
05-20-2009, 07:20 PM
And to the guy who said "why are you posting stuff from 2006" I think I specifically mentioned that I posted what I found by just making a quick search. Sorry I can't give you more recent numbers, but it was just an example for me to make a point. I guess you didn't get it.

There was no Swine Flu outbreak in 2006...

The economy is in a bad shape, but do not worry. The economy was healthy in 2006. [/sarcasm]

I guess I still don't get it and probably never will.

NeoEmc2
05-21-2009, 04:47 PM
There was no Swine Flu outbreak in 2006...

The economy is in a bad shape, but do not worry. The economy was healthy in 2006. [/sarcasm]

I guess I still don't get it and probably never will.

:mfr_lol: Nope, doesn't look like you did.

god bless you friend.

Waterman
05-21-2009, 09:24 PM
According to the World Health Organization 11.000 people have caught the H1N1 Flu, of whom 65 died. That is an .8% mortality rate. In other words less than one percent die from the virus.

Notwithstanding, of the 11,000 that have acquired the virus, many have just begun their illness. So the less that one percent mortality rate is more than likely low. However, that does not appear to be more morbid than ordinary flu, but we would not want to dismiss this flu even if that is the case. And if you will notice influenza was in the list!

One note about this event is that the largest pocket of infection outside North America is in Japan with 249 people infected, and it appears to be spreading rapidly. Large clusters of H1N1 infections have also been confirmed in Britain and Spain. Should other areas outside of North America experience this type of infection rate, you should expect WHO to raise the level to Phase 6 from the existing level Phase 5. However, that has been quite a tussle trying to balance severity and infection rate with politics.

As we watch this issue all thought must be ever sober about the possibility of it morphing into a more deadly virus and resurfacing this fall.

Note: If your following this you might be interested in my blog.

http://simplyyourhealth.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/straits-times.gif (http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/World/Story/STIStory_380077.html)