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viking
05-28-2009, 07:12 PM
:nono: Pray for NO NO ......
May 27,2009
Washington, DC (TRN) -- North Korea yesterday withdrew from the Armistice that halted the Korean War. Today, official Washington is abuzz with not so secret "Top Secret" plans for the United States to make a limited nuclear first strike to wipe out the North Korean threat in one fell swoop.
Russia has been alerted to "make plans" for radiation fallout in its eastern border area.
In consultations with China, the U.S. Ambassador to Beijing was said to be stunned when he was told by the Chinese government "Kim Jung Il is out of control and dangerous. He has become a serious liability for China. Do what must be done, but please do it in a manner that minimizes risk to China."
China was then briefed about US plans and asked to prepare its southern population areas for radiation fallout. It is expected that prevailing weather patterns will disperse fallout over the sea, causing it to thin out dramatically before moving over land.
Worst development since World War 2
Our source in the State Department explained today why this situation got so bad, so fast. "The Korean War legally never ended." he said. "There is no peace treaty, there is only an Armistice, a formal cease-fire. When North Korea officially withdrew from the Armistice yesterday, it automatically brought us back into a hot war. "he continued.
Speaking on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media, the high ranking state department source told Turner Radio Network (TRN):
"Of all the scenarios involving North Korea, withdrawing from the Armistice was the one thing we thought they never would do. Since the War, everyone has known that withdrawing from the Armistice means the cease-fire is over. Today, that cease fire is over; we are back at war with North Korea and this time, the outcome will not be negotiated. Withdrawing from the Armistice was the last mistake North Korea will ever make. Their leadership must surrender now or they are nothing more than dead men walking. It's over for them" he finished.
Pentagon: Nuclear first strike "Likely"
Early in the evening on Tuesday, President Barack Obama gave permission for the US Military to airlift "Patriot Missile Air Defense" systems to South Korea and additional units to bolster 16 systems already in Japan. Those systems were airborne hours later and arrived in South Korea and Japan today.
The model of Patriot Missile systems sent is "PAC-3" and they were accompanied by M-901 control stations and AN/MPQ-53 phased array radar.
Sources with acute knowledge of the plans for North Korea have confirmed to TRN that a US nuclear first strike is going to be launched.
The first strike will be carried out through submarine-launched, BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles, model TLAM/A whose explosive payload can be "dialed" to be anywhere from 100 kilotons to one point five megatons nuclear yield per missile.
There will be no warning. North Korea will not be able to track the incoming cruise missiles via radar. The only way they will know the attack is taking place is when they see a blinding white flash as the temperature rises to ten thousand degrees and the wind gusts to 650 miles per hour.
North Korean troops along the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) will be hit first to prevent them from invading south Korea. Multiple cruise missiles using Time of Arrival (TOA) control will detonate simultaneously along the DMZ, wiping out over one million North Korean troops in seconds.
Minutes later, after the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) confirms that the North Korean leadership has been told by their own command structure that their troops at the DMZ have all been killed, Kim Jung Il will be contacted and asked if he is willing to surrender. It is expected he will not.
At that point, a B-2 Stealth Bomber will be sent in to deliver the final blow. Pyongyang will be hit with a surface detonation of a massive nuclear bomb, wiping out the entire city and the entire government of North Korea.
As soon as that surface detonation takes place, several hundred additional cruise missiles carrying conventional payloads and launched from land, air and sea sites, will hit every North Korean military facility in the entire country, instantly crippling their entire command and control system. Carrier based Aircraft will then fly in to clean up whatever resistance remains.
It is expected the war will be over within one or two days. Korea will be reunited. It's Capitol will be Seoul and its government will be democratically elected.
One strike, two purposes
This difficult decision to make a nuclear first strike was arrived at because the threat of North Korea invading South Korea once hostilities resume was too great a danger to world stability. The world does not need or want another large, lengthy war.
The decision to use a nuclear first strike serves another purpose as well: sending a clear message to countries like Pakistan, India and Iran about what they can expect if they continue traveling down the nuclear road.
The thinking in Washington, Beijing and Moscow is that the world needs to send this message and there will not be a better reason or better time to send it than now.
Additional details on tonight "Hal Turner Show" airing from 9:00 - 11:00 PM eastern U.S. time (GMT -0400) tonight, Wednesday 27 May 2009 .,
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http://TurnerRadioNetwork.blogspot.com
Info about Patriot Missile Air Defense Systems
Info about BGM-109 Model TLAM/A Cruise Missile
18 Second Video of BGM-109 TLAM (Conventional warhead) striking target
REUTERS: "Russia fears Korean conflict can go nuclear"
turnerradionetwork.blogspot.com/2009/05/north-korea-to-be-attacked-us-nuclear.html
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/war/bushs_north_korea_war/news.php?q=1243532445
viking
Carrie1971
05-28-2009, 07:20 PM
I can only do one thing.
Control my own thinking.
I am upset over the way things look if I listen to the "world WARS" or if I pay any mind to the "rumors"..
Whats going on?
Still your own mind and try hard to stay in the now all the while being ready for the "Maybe".
I live in the PNW and I do not like the idea at all that this very well could take place. The upper air flow is not something that makes many parts of the U.S. and Canada at danger of air drift after one of those "toys" are set off.
Do any of you know of any infromation on the "fall out" drift which is a done deal from the "testing" that has been done over the past week?
Children learn to play nice and do not play with matches.
burgundia
05-28-2009, 07:28 PM
And as always, innocent civilians and nature will suffer most....
Steve_A
05-28-2009, 07:28 PM
Hi Viking,
This situation has been planned since well before 2002.
Check out this link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1387333/US-plans-for-first-strike-nuclear-attacks-against-seven-countries.html
Once again, there has only been one country on this Earth to use offensively a weapon of real mass destruction. It could well be that this same country is going to try and do it again.
Gird your loins, we could be in for a rough ride.
Best regards,
Steve
:nono: Pray for NO NO ......
May 27,2009
Washington, DC (TRN) -- North Korea yesterday withdrew from the Armistice that halted the Korean War. Today, official Washington is abuzz with not so secret "Top Secret" plans for the United States to make a limited nuclear first strike to wipe out the North Korean threat in one fell swoop....
Swanny
05-28-2009, 07:44 PM
Some times America really pisses me off :thumbdown:
But I don't believe they will nuke N K
Lorien
05-28-2009, 08:02 PM
Some times America really pisses me off :thumbdown:
But I don't believe they will nuke N K
Hey, it's not America that is doing this. We as a country are not war mongering maniacs. That's the a**holes in charge. Though I do agree with you, they **** me off. More often than not unfortunately.
burgundia
05-28-2009, 08:10 PM
Hey, it's not America that is doing this. We as a country are not war mongering maniacs. That's the a**holes in charge. Though I do agree with you, they **** me off. More often than not unfortunately.
So why for so many years haven't you done anything to them? they dropped the first bomb in 1945....
sleepingnomore
05-28-2009, 08:47 PM
I'm hoping our benevolent sky friends prevent the firing of nuclear weapons from any country. I'm continuing to think positive on this as the alternative is too horrible to think about.
oldpaganfreak
05-28-2009, 08:53 PM
the ptb have been dying to use a nuke again for the last 60 years. i predicted to friends last year that 2009 would see a nuke used somewhere in the world. i actually expected it would be a 'terrorist' strike on an american city. iran was my second thought. but, north korea seems like a most likely target now, without a lot of fear of reprissal from anyone.
Karen
05-28-2009, 09:00 PM
So why for so many years haven't you done anything to them? they dropped the first bomb in 1945....
We have been subjected to tremendous levels of mind control through agencies such as the Tavistock Institute in Britain. We have been trained to think all is well, leave everything to the government and they will take care of you. All systems have been totally corrupted with mind control. The school systems are purposely set up to dumb us down - the religious systems to suppress us - the political systems to make us think we have a choice - the people in America have never been free. We are wage slaves trained work all day, come home exhausted, and to sit on the couch watching sports and other "entertainment", eating pretzels and drinking beer. And other variations of that theme.
Many people, where the mind control did not take hold, have been working hard to change things, but precious few. Things like murder and "suicide" and harm to one's family and friends discourage anyone from stepping out to do the right thing.
We have been conned for all our lives on earth, not just in America.
Northern Boy
05-28-2009, 09:02 PM
This is not required in any way shape or form North Korea has done nothing except test they have not fired on any one.
If we are to use possession of this type of weapon as an excuse to go blowing up counties the Good Ol USA should have been nuked ages ago.
They have the right to possess these as much as any other country and till all countries ban possession of these type of weapons then you must wait for the first idiot to use one before going off half cocked and bombing them into the stone age . Same goes for Iran
Any country attacking N. Korea should have its leaders arrested and tried on Crimes Against Humanity if they use nuclear weapons or bomb any nuclear facilities .
Northern Boy
05-28-2009, 09:04 PM
I'm hoping our benevolent sky friends prevent the firing of nuclear weapons from any country. I'm continuing to think positive on this as the alternative is too horrible to think about.
This will be the chance for them to do this or have then Channelers been wrong ?
Anchor
05-28-2009, 10:38 PM
Where are the facts? All we seem to have here is hearsay and anonymous sources - and the predictable fear reaction.
A..
Carol
05-28-2009, 10:48 PM
Good grief. Did you notice all of the details laid out in the US plan of attack if necessary. One would think knowing the details would stop NK cold.
Indeed... focusing on a more peaceful alternative timeline is a good idea. However, due to the economy, Cathrine Austin Fitts did say she expected a war to help pull the US out as that is what worked in the past.
Steve_A
05-28-2009, 10:51 PM
Hi Anchor,
The only sources we have are journalistic reporting, as nobody (I don't think) here in the forum works close to the White House (unless there's a Starbucks on the corner).
Try these sources:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090528/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear
http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-koreas-prepare-for-peninsula-war.html
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090528/korea_threats_090528/20090528?hub=World
There should be lots more tomorrow.
Best regards,
Steve
Where are the facts? All we seem to have here is hearsay and anonymous sources - and the predictable fear reaction.
A..
NeoEmc2
05-28-2009, 11:01 PM
Everybody relax. No one is nuking anyone and there won't be a WWIII. You guys that buy into all these things seriously should worry more about your mental stability and well being instead of getting all excited about these types of "rumors" like someone else has already suggested.
No offense to anyone.
Seashore
05-28-2009, 11:07 PM
... A war to help pull the us out as that is what worked in the past.
Sick!!!
Swanny
05-28-2009, 11:11 PM
Why does the American government always poke it's nose into what's going on around the world? NK is no threat to it so why does it care, why not let those countries that are threatened deal with it? If it wants to do some thing useful for the world then take out Israel.
Sorry for having no faith in little green men stepping in to save the world :naughty:
I think we are alone on this planet with only those ar5eholes in power to save us :thumbdown:
micjer
05-28-2009, 11:58 PM
The pentagon is dreaming if they think their plan is as simple as they have outlined.
Don't you suppose that the people in south Korea might be affected also by an attack. Its like saying we are going to nuke the state of Indiana and Ohio won't be affected or hit the country of Wales and Scotland and England won't be affected.
Things are never as simple as planned when it comes to war (terrorism). Does the US really think that there would be no counterattack by extemist groups to show their hatred towards them. Explo de a dirty bo mb over the US and put out the grid and we'll soon see what a great idea it was to attack NK.
Jackassess!!!!!
Dantheman62
05-29-2009, 01:10 AM
Where are the facts? All we seem to have here is hearsay and anonymous sources - and the predictable fear reaction.
A..
Thank you Anchor!!!! This is a bunch of BS and is not planned.
By LARA JAKES, Associated Press Writer Lara Jakes, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 19 mins ago
ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY JET – While worrisome, North Korea's nuclear and missile tests have not reached a crisis level that would warrant additional U.S. troops in the region, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said.
Gates, flying to Singapore to meet with Asian defense ministers, said he has not seen any moves by North Korea's military that would prompt the United States to add to the roughly 28,000 troops already in South Korea. He said any military actions would need to be decided upon, and carried out, by broad international agreement.
"I don't think that anybody in the (Obama) administration thinks there is a crisis," Gates told reporters aboard his military jet early Friday morning, still Thursday night in Washington.
"What we do have, though, are two new developments that are very provocative, that are aggressive, accompanied by very aggressive rhetoric," he said. "And I think it brings home the reality of the challenge that North Korea poses to the region and to the international community."
Gates appeared to try to tamp down some of the tough rhetoric that has flown between Washington and Pyongyang this week, since North Korea said it successfully detonated a nuclear device in its northeast on Monday and followed with a series of short-range missile launches.
Gates also cited a silver lining of the situation: an opportunity to build stronger ties with the Chinese government.
"Just based on what the Chinese government has said publicly, they've clearly pretty unhappy about the nuclear test in particular, and they weren't very happy about the missile test either," Gates said. "And my impression is they were surprised by the nuclear test. And so, as I say, I think there may be some opportunities here."
He added: "I don't want to put the burden solely on China, because the reality is that while China has more influence than anybody else on North Korea, I believe that that influence has its limits. But it is important for the Chinese to be a part of any effort to try to deal with these issues with North Korea."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090528/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/as_gates_nkorea
Humble Janitor
05-29-2009, 01:10 AM
So, now they've gotten as bold as to lay out such "plans" for the masses to see?
These fools are fooling no one.
As for China, didn't they say at one point that they could turn NK into dust with the push of a button?
It's important to not get bogged down with this negative energy.
Ross H
05-29-2009, 04:55 AM
It very hard to believe anything...but, this is a group of ppls using USA as a front, selling slavery as freedom, who kill 3000 on US soil (911) and seemed to have gotten away with it...who funded the Nazi fachist regime in order to put the eventual EU in place as precurser to total control of the world, who instigated pearl harbour then nuked Japan killing 1mill+ and counting, are capable of anything...negative yes, but also brutal reality...
orthodoxymoron
05-29-2009, 05:04 AM
I long for a united...yet free...world at peace. Why do we have to spend so much time, money, and energy...planning to kill each other? This world is so stupid and sick...I can't believe it. This must be the Devil's Island Prison Planet Insane Asylum of the Universe. The smoking gun was two mushroom clouds...over civilian targets. Why are we so sanctimonious regarding WMD? Who really controls the City States? I doubt that the Pope, the President, and Lord Rothschild are running things. I suspect that they are merely front men and errand boys. The true power may reside in a deep underground base on the dark side of the moon. Hello Lucifer.
Humble Janitor
05-29-2009, 05:43 AM
on that note; it's ****ing ridiculous to even be thinking about nuclear war in the first place. is this really meant to desensitize? because honestly....IT"S NUCLEAR WAR for god's sake. would the US really be the only country to drop bombs not once, not twice, but 3 times!?!
and who the hell even believes our "satellite photos" anyway? does the world not remember all the false data that was created for the iraq invasion? trucks that were carrying thousands of gallons of anthrax, beautiful photographs of mobile labs. it was all BS. some intern with photoshop made them, and they championed them around as justification.
bah...insanity at the whim of mad people. i'm going to go plant a garden and think about my spirit just being higher than this.
That's the way to go. We certainly won't get fooled again by this dog-and-pony game put on by the lowlifes.
avyaktam
05-29-2009, 06:07 AM
I still keep my mind open for a wild hypothesis.
Behind the scenes a hidden war with scalar weapens (like haarp) is taken place. Many 'suspicious' quakes start exactly at 10 km depth. This 10km could be signature, code to say "this is manmade" or something like that.
So I am still waiting for confirmation that this explosion was radioactive.
The case may be that NK has been attacked.
viking
05-29-2009, 08:49 AM
Just found this on Benjamin Fulford blog...
イルミナティの次の企み:パキスタンと北朝鮮で二つの戦争を始めること
追い詰められた欧米の闇政権が次の二つの手を見せた:北朝鮮を崩壊させる。
同時にパキスタンを分断し、新しいパイプライン国家を作る。
要するに彼らは「金をよこさないと大量虐殺をやるぞ!」と脅しているようなものだ。もしかすると欧米の貴族 (ビルダーバーグ会議、マルタ騎士団など)数百人を殺すために、一人当たり1億ドルの賞金を出すべきかも しれない。数100万人の罪のない民間人の命は、数100人の白人の貴族より価値がある。
Is war with Pakistan and North Korea the illuminati solution for the “financial crisis?”
The illuminati crime cartel has revealed their next desperate move to keep in power: two new wars. The plan is to completely devastate North Korea
and split off half of Pakistan in order to create a new pipeline state.
In other words they are threatening mayhem and mass murder if they do not get their gold. It may be time to put a $100 million price tag on each member of the Knights of Malta, the Knights of the Garter, The Knights Templar, the Bilderbergers etc. The lives of a few hundred self-appointed “elite” are not worth as much as the lives of millions of innocent people.
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2009/05/index.html
end of quote
On a lighter note we all need to think along a positive note to hopefully suppress the evil that PTB are trying to create. They are panicking big time and will try anything to take your mind off the current global problems.
We can all dampen the flames of evil with our collective energy, perhaps to pay particular attention with the next Nexus Event on saturday.
The power is with us. REMEMBER!
We will win.
:original:
viking
Anchor
05-29-2009, 09:33 AM
We will win!
Already have! Most people just don't know it yet.
However, let's not allow ourselves attempt a snatching of defeat from the jaws of victory.
A..
burgundia
05-29-2009, 01:40 PM
We have been subjected to tremendous levels of mind control through agencies such as the Tavistock Institute in Britain. We have been trained to think all is well, leave everything to the government and they will take care of you. All systems have been totally corrupted with mind control. The school systems are purposely set up to dumb us down - the religious systems to suppress us - the political systems to make us think we have a choice - the people in America have never been free. We are wage slaves trained work all day, come home exhausted, and to sit on the couch watching sports and other "entertainment", eating pretzels and drinking beer. And other variations of that theme.
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This is how I perceived USA... Being from "outside" we often can see thingsI that those who are "inside" can't see...It applies to any country and any nationality...
However I am glad that the people in USA see that too because the change can come from inside only...
I was always wondering how it was possible for people to live in USA thinking they are free, when I knew they weren't...But then your propaganda machine has always worked perfectly. You have been living in a bigger illusion than the rest of the world.
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
05-29-2009, 01:54 PM
fourwinds and that other site are known disinfo sites are they not.. the OP may be unaware of that fact.. i think fullford has valid points sometimes tho.. i cant see anything but a stand off here.. unless of course thyey want full bore nuclear war... :sleep_1:
orthodoxymoron
05-29-2009, 05:06 PM
This is how I perceived USA... Being from "outside" we often can see thingsI that those who are "inside" can't see...It applies to any country and any nationality...
However I am glad that the people in USA see that too because the change can come from inside only...
I was always wondering how it was possible for people to live in USA thinking they are free, when I knew they weren't...But then your propaganda machine has always worked perfectly. You have been living in a bigger illusion than the rest of the world.
If Americans are the most deluded people on Earth...which country is the model of getting it right? Who are the most free people on Earth? When America is completely neutralized...who will lead what is left of the free world?
Dantheman62
05-29-2009, 05:28 PM
I don't know burgundia and Karen, I kind of disagree, and agree. I loved growing up here in America! It's a beautiful country full of beautiful people.
I've always done whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted, and wherever I wanted. No government or police or military ever stopped me from doing anything I wanted. Or made me do anything I didn't want.
If you truly love your job and enjoy going to work everyday and can do whatever,whenever, then that's freedom to me! You always have to work, whether it's to make money or build something or just gardening at home. Work is sort of a state of mind.
I agree with Karen that we've been brainwashed since day one in our schools and churches.
But guess what, I quit school when I was in high school, and I stopped going to church when I was about 8 years old, knowing that there was something seriously wrong with both!!!
America has done a lot of stupid things, but we've also helped a lot of people in a lot of countries around the world. Just think of all the food, aid, medicine, and technology we've shared with countries.
I couldn't imagine living anywhere else, and really never wanted to.
Steve_A
05-29-2009, 06:58 PM
Hi orthodoxymoron,
I don't know why, but I kind of like the idea of Denmark as a good place to be. I only ever went once, to Esbjerg (I think that's how you spell it) when I was a lot younger and was priviledged to play a game of darts with an Eskimo - and I won!
Failing that, try Sealand, a very small country that fits on a postage stamp just off the British coast. There could be room for maneuver there if the local people like you. If not you will need to 'walk the plank'!
Best regards,
Steve
If Americans are the most deluded people on Earth...which country is the model of getting it right? Who are the most free people on Earth? When America is completely neutralized...who will lead what is left of the free world?
viking
05-29-2009, 07:51 PM
Well I pray that this is all cocka-hoop!!!
Check this..http://turnerradionetwork.blogspot.com/2009/05/b-2-stealth-bombers-being-deployed.html
***** FLASH TRAFFIC **** URGENT ****
The United States has begun deploying B-2 Stealth Bombers from the mainland USA to Andersen Air Force Base in Guam. This would put the nuclear-armed bombers well within striking distance of North Korea.
The photo below was taken today at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, home to the B-2 fleet as two B-2's taxi to the main runway for takeoff.
end of quote
again I mention this...We can all dampen the flames of evil with our collective energy, perhaps to pay particular attention with the next Nexus Event on saturday.
viking
burgundia
05-29-2009, 07:58 PM
America has done a lot of stupid things, but we've also helped a lot of people in a lot of countries around the world. Just think of all the food, aid, medicine, and technology we've shared with countries.
I couldn't imagine living anywhere else, and really never wanted to.
I am afraid that all that sharing wasn't very altruistic in nature. there were always interests behind. Besides The USA dictates other countries what they can or cannot do, like for example who can sell weapons to what country ( of course THE US can sell whomever they want to). It's like first destroy Iraq, then help rebuild it making profit, establish businesses there, take over whatever you can. use depleted uranium bullets and then send medicine ( I am being a bit sarcastic here, I know). When it comes to technology, scientists from all over the world have worked on various inventions. Just check how many foreigners among them. And if part of the technology comes from ETs then it belongs to everybody.
You have always been told that you live in the best place on earth ( and for many people it could be true), but in schools ,in social studies for example, they teach only about the US ( no surprise that so many Americans do not know which countries USA borders on..). When The Olympic games are broadcast you only know what medal or which place American sportsmen come in....even if an American is 5th or 6th this is what they tell you, not even who won. When you watch TV there, you think that THE WORLD is THE USA only...
When it comes to stupid things..what do you have in mind? because when you think about the wars and conflicts started by USA, then we may say that Hitler and Stalin did stupid things too....
burgundia
05-29-2009, 08:03 PM
If Americans are the most deluded people on Earth...which country is the model of getting it right? Who are the most free people on Earth? When America is completely neutralized...who will lead what is left of the free world?
Perhaps there is no perfect model, perhaps it still must be made.....I know what America is like, good and bad sides, but To me it is not a model to follow. I don't think there is one country which could serve as a model...
Dantheman62
05-29-2009, 08:39 PM
I am afraid that all that sharing wasn't very altruistic in nature. there were always interests behind. Besides The USA dictates other countries what they can or cannot do, like for example who can sell weapons to what country ( of course THE US can sell whomever they want to). It's like first destroy Iraq, then help rebuild it making profit, establish businesses there, take over whatever you can. use depleted uranium bullets and then send medicine ( I am being a bit sarcastic here, I know). When it comes to technology, scientists from all over the world have worked on various inventions. Just check how many foreigners among them. And if part of the technology comes from ETs then it belongs to everybody.
You have always been told that you live in the best place on earth ( and for many people it could be true), but in schools ,in social studies for example, they teach only about the US ( no surprise that so many Americans do not know which countries USA borders on..). When The Olympic games are broadcast you only know what medal or which place American sportsmen come in....even if an American is 5th or 6th this is what they tell you, not even who won. When you watch TV there, you think that THE WORLD is THE USA only...
When it comes to stupid things..what do you have in mind? because when you think about the wars and conflicts started by USA, then we may say that Hitler and Stalin did stupid things too....
I do agree with a lot of that, we should stop playing the game of telling people what to do! Bush was very good at telling people what to do around the world. Being a bully country will definitely get us nowhere.
I disagree with some of what you say about our schools though. I grew up in Minnesota, which at the time was 4th in the nation as far as quality of education. I never paid attention and still learned a lot.
We did study about other countries and geography was one of my favorite subjects.
As far as Olympic games, don't most people try and watch their own countrymen, and hope they do well?
I think you're generalizing us too much, I think we're a lot more worldly than you give us credit for.
Oh dear - after the initial 'panic' reading Vikings post, hmmm, why am I worried?
Am I meant to be worried?
I read all points of view, and really - if the stupid PTB want to 'take out' NK, it is highly unlikely Russia and China (and anyone nearby) would say OK!
Too much to lose.
To be honest, I cannot imagine in this technological age that an 'EMP' wouldn't take down any threats via the scalar technology most large powers have now.
It's all posturing as usual by the controlled MSM.
If anything happens, it's deliberate and planned by the PTB (as in - oops - 'they' fired first). Utter nonsense to think that NK has anything like the technology that is now in the hands of the global PTB (no advanced nation exempt).
I'm so sick of their 'fake wars', PTB - rot in your hell, and no doubt you'll enjoy it without us. BTW you go - we stay!:lightsabre:
burgundia
05-30-2009, 07:24 AM
I do agree with a lot of that, we should stop playing the game of telling people what to do! Bush was very good at telling people what to do around the world. Being a bully country will definitely get us nowhere.
I disagree with some of what you say about our schools though. I grew up in Minnesota, which at the time was 4th in the nation as far as quality of education. I never paid attention and still learned a lot.
We did study about other countries and geography was one of my favorite subjects.
As far as Olympic games, don't most people try and watch their own countrymen, and hope they do well?
I think you're generalizing us too much, I think we're a lot more worldly than you give us credit for.
When you studied geography maybe it was different. I bet a lot has changed since then.I worked in new York school system for a few years.....But that dumbing down is going on not only in USA, in other countries too, Poland included. It's just hard to say where it is worst.
As far as watching their countrymen...of course this is what is important. I just rmember watching Olympics in 1996(in USA) not knowing anything about any winners from other countries. In Poland we always know about how well our sportsmen do, but we also know who the best guys are and we show events even without anybody from Poland participating.
I do not want to sound too critical and I do not write about people here, it's more about the system. And if I were to generalize I think that in general Americans are nice folks.:original:
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