List of Predictions

[Waterman]

I have been asked to re-post information that John Moore shared on his radio broadcast earlier this week.

In the brief below, John Moore shares his concerns, but I would encourage anyone interested to listen to each of his broadcasts this week. He is now on daily at www.themicroeffect.com (http://www.themicroeffect.com/), which is where Jeff Rense is now. And the shows are archived.

John has been and still is a private homicide detective of 37 years around the St. Louis area, and ex-special forces.

Briefing of JR Moore- (summarizing)
I (John Moore) just received some information from a military source (John stated he has known this very reliable source for a long time) and we are facing a really serious disastrous event with high probability. Should it occur it will put the country in a free for all and of course a high potential for martial law etc, will exist.

He went on to give a list of eleven cities that have been targeted for an attack starting sometime after June 1. And the type of attack he was talking about was a nuke.

Now this type of info leads to a lot of thought provoking responses. However, we might want to consider that just because something "doesn't" happen is not proof there wasn't some type of 007 struggle at the last minute to save the world. Or more realistically, a last minute missed detail derailed the bad guy's plan while in motion. And have we ever heard the federal government get on the news and say whew we almost lost Dallas today to a nuke? Not likely nor will we, especially if some of them are complicit (like they were in the WTC).

John's comments continued by stating what we could be facing this fall. Read them without fear as just a list of things to consider. His reason for stating these is because of the reliability of his sources. And if ever you wanted a source vetted, you would want him vetting it.

1) The final economic/dollar collapse - Sept/Oct
2) Food shortages - Sept/Oct
3) A pandemic - Aug
4) And quite possibly a nuclear attack on a city - sometime after June 1.
Also he mentioned that WWIII might already be going and we just don't know it yet...

More thoughts on the list.


Economy- Several months ago we were given a date of October 7 by Cliff High, and his research indicated that the event would disturb us for quite some time. Then we had the market crash and bailout right on schedule, and the economy continues to be troubled. Now, through his latest research he has predicted the following.
The derivatives bubble will start the event-ball rolling in Aug. of 2009. That hyperinflation will begin in the background October 16 and that for 10 days the word “consternation” is seen in the research, and linked to the event. Then on November 5 hyperinflation will become visible to the public. Continuing, from November 5-8 the dollar will lose its luster and no one will want it and that will last till March 2010.
Then post December 2009 early 2010, the federal government will economically collapse, which has already started to be seen by the releasing of many federal contractors.
That one sixth of the Dutch are seriously preparing for the imminent collapse of the dollar along with the a higher percentage of the Russians preparing.



So John's economic info is lining up with Cliff High who was dead on with last October's economic event. It would not be hard to see why there would be a food shortage if there was a collapse of the dollar.


Pandemic: Too much to say on this topic to list here, so just go to my blog which is linked at the bottom.

My final thoughts.
How much more do we have to be told that the nation is tanking. It's going to be great to see the dark side fail, which it will.... eventually, but we have a really bumpy road to travel before we get there.

Yes we the people, not government are going to have to make plans to take back the responsibilities we have so long neglected. And if any one or all of these events were to occur, hopefully we can all find ourselves in a location where people know how to take care of themselves. Even if we are alone and not in a community, at least be in a state were you can expect the people to tell the federal government leave us alone we'll take care of ourselves.

My advice? Continue to store food, Examine your state, and plan on moving if it is going to cooperate with big brother. And remember it is about all of us, me, you, our neighbors. Be ready to help put the community into action with real answers YOU have thought of ahead of time.


So, what would you recommend your community to do? Even if only one of these events happen, there is going to be a lot of needy people that have not even mentally prepared.



How should we get ready to meet these needs?

[Dantheman62]

Is it this John Moore? http://www.thelibertyman.com/

No offense, but for now I'll pass on his information, thanks. I don't know if he's credible or not, but he doesn't sit right with me. And actually being a cop even lessens his chances of convincing me of anything. But I'm a hard sell for some things.

[Humble Janitor]

What does this have to do with preparations? It's just more speculation.

And the more we buy into this stuff, the more it's going to happen. Let's not.

[Anchor]

So, what would you recommend your community to do? Even if only one of these events happen, there is going to be a lot of needy people that have not even mentally prepared.

I think it likely that humankind has not progressed enough to completely take away the possibility of some calamity or upheaval, however the exact nature of it is immaterial and listing the scenarios and detailing the kinds of damage actually can influence the way things pan out because it can de-focus one from a visualized positive outcome.

The positive outcome is assured, but getting there as you say is going to be traumatic.

Preparation is vital for all the reasons/possibilities you state, but paying attention to the doom and gloom more than necessary for effective planning should definitely be guarded against.

A..

[MastaYoda]

1) The final economic/dollar collapse - Sept/Oct
2) Food shortages - Sept/Oct
3) A pandemic - Aug
4) And quite possibly a nuclear attack on a city - sometime after June 1.
Also he mentioned that WWIII might already be going and we just don't know it yet...


I started to work on the same thing, but more of graphical Time line with events. So people can scroll the time line with future and passed events.

But I don't have much info, also it needs to be hosted where everyone can see it. Not just people on this blog!. I think its a great idea so people have more of a visual view.

[lemon_sky88]

I second that Yoda. I get the positive vibe thing every one talks about. dont focus on the negative. but if a trucks coming and i can get out of the way.. Im gona get out of the way. I dont mind speculating and recieveing inside info on these sorts of matters it helps to round the picture. yin-yang. we gont like yang too much but hes there hes nessisary and brings harmony. dont outcast him imbrace him.

[Waterman]

This is an update and clarification of my post.


Some of you do not know John Moore so let me clarify. John is not a cop he is a “private” detective and his specialty is homicide. He has also been hired for protective services by notable entertainers, and is a consultant in survival. John has two websites www.thelibertyman.com (http://www.thelibertyman.com/) and http://www.ruralsurvival.info (http://www.ruralsurvival.info/) .


In the meantime I've been trying to validate the list John gave from several different sources, hoping that it gives us some indication how likely it is that we have to act upon it, and when. The economic indicators are clear and easily covered, and sources are fairly abundant. Below is a video covering that area fairly well with George Humphrey, Gerald Celente, and Webster Tarpley.
YouTube - The Obama Deception Extras:Interviews with, George Humphrey, Gerald Celente, Webster Tarpley


Covering this topic in print is Bob Chapman's International Forecaster newsletter, a regularly published economic newsletter.
http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/As_The_Dollar_Falls_Inflation_Rises


And probably most important if valid is following up on the info about an imminent attack. For more on that topic I found Jack McLamb with the following information (link below). In this interview Jack covers plans to launch another 911 attack upon the people in America, soon.
http://www.freedomradio.us/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4964&Itemid=156


For those that are new, Jack (http://www.jackmclamb.org/) is the highest decorated Phoenix police officer, now retired. He publishes Aid and Abet newsletter. To educate police and military against the new world order.


If an attack upon America is imminent I will give due diligence to find a third source to validate the information soon as possible.

[Dantheman62]

Thanks for the updates Waterman, that was my mistake about calling him a cop, oops.
I just watched the video and am checking out the links.

[Waterman]

Right at this minute I'm on the phone with a contact. He is talking to me at the same time he is talking to the other person. The other person is connected (ehem) to the CIA. And here is the scoop ... You are getting it right as I'm being told.

The man former CIA (40 years) said there is a 15 megaton bomb missing in the states. And that he has just walked away from everything he couldn't bring with him and is on a boat and is leaving the country. I was told he didn't even take his car, and left his keys.

So take it for what it is worth but I will get more soon as I can...

In the meantime I would rather be called all those names I know will come for being a ill informed messenger than to not inform everyone what I heard. At least you know I'm trying to get answers.

[alyscat]

This would be an interesting situation - potentially a false flag event here - or a strike somewhere else, making it look like it came from here - possibly totally without our government's knowledge - just the knowledge of someone higher up in the security clearance chain than our president...

[Christo888]

Right at this minute I'm on the phone with a contact. He is talking to me at the same time he is talking to the other person. The other person is connected (ehem) to the CIA. And here is the scoop ... You are getting it right as I'm being told.

The man former CIA (40 years) said there is a 15 megaton bomb missing in the states. And that he has just walked away from everything he couldn't bring with him and is on a boat and is leaving the country. I was told he didn't even take his car, and left his keys.

So take it for what it is worth but I will get more soon as I can...

In the meantime I would rather be called all those names I know will come for being a ill informed messenger than to not inform everyone what I heard. At least you know I'm trying to get answers.

OK... then I am asking for help and assistance to find, disarm, and render this device neutral.

Running away by someone in the 'know' is at odds with the duty of position!!!:thumbdown:

[Dantheman62]

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[Swanny]

I'm just going to enjoy the summer :cool:
Who knows it maybe our last :naughty:

[alyscat]

Anything else new after this was posted, Waterman?

So, hmmm, what could happen with a 15 megatron bomb? (I'm not being facetious, here) Hiroshima was a 12.5 kiloton bomb, so this would be more than 1000 x stronger? (which country in its right mind would create one of these? - oh, wait, us, of course <sheesh>) So, is this a nuclear winter kind of thing? An "On the Beach" kind of thing? If it were dropped in NYC or DC (with prevailing winds w to e) what happens in Seattle?

Just curious, if someone knows the answer...

alys



Right at this minute I'm on the phone with a contact. He is talking to me at the same time he is talking to the other person. The other person is connected (ehem) to the CIA. And here is the scoop ... You are getting it right as I'm being told.

The man former CIA (40 years) said there is a 15 megaton bomb missing in the states. And that he has just walked away from everything he couldn't bring with him and is on a boat and is leaving the country. I was told he didn't even take his car, and left his keys.
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[skyrimirre]

Thanks for posting this. Keep us informed.:lightsabre:

[Dantheman62]

quote:

And probably most important if valid is following up on the info about an imminent attack. For more on that topic I found Jack McLamb with the following information (link below). In this interview Jack covers plans to launch another 911 attack upon the people in America, soon.
http://www.freedomradio.us/Joomla/in...964&Itemid=156


This guy Jack Mclamb needs to go out and get some fresh air from what I heard in that link!
I shut it off halfway through because it's ridiculous.

[Luminari]

Cliff High, and his research indicated that... hyperinflation will begin in the background October 16 and that for 10 days the word “consternation” is seen in the research, and linked to the event.



con⋅ster⋅na⋅tion
  /ˌkɒnstərˈneɪʃən/ Show Spelled [kon-ster-ney-shuhn]
–noun
a sudden, alarming amazement or dread that results in utter confusion; dismay.

—Synonyms
bewilderment, alarm, terror, fear, panic, fright, horror.


So like a financial armageddon.. the bankers and the Fed will pull another rabbit out of the hat to keep the snowball rolling I'm sure.

As for the rogue nuke situation, Bill Deagle and other fear-mongers have been talking about this scenario for ages haven't they.

I dont think the Pleiadian and other guardians would allow it to go that far (detonation).. they have demonstrated how easily (piece of cake) they can disable our nukes many times (disclosure project witness testamonials) nevermind the 007 types. We shall see.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

im assuming a small nuke from the koreans will poss be deteonated, PPARENTLY THEIR 2ND TEST was half a mega ton.. obv the tv cameras will be there like 9/11 and broadcast over and over again for effect. thats the only situation a nuke can go off in i thin k..

i think financial collpase and fake virus outbreaks are enough to meet the needs of culling the sheep.:smoke:

ps; a north korean nuke detonated in south korea not on usa soil. once the economy collapses they are hoping the peple of america will turn on each other and do tho job for them.

[shred]

I think it likely that humankind has not progressed enough to completely take away the possibility of some calamity or upheaval, however the exact nature of it is immaterial and listing the scenarios and detailing the kinds of damage actually can influence the way things pan out because it can de-focus one from a visualized positive outcome.

The positive outcome is assured, but getting there as you say is going to be traumatic.

Preparation is vital for all the reasons/possibilities you state, but paying attention to the doom and gloom more than necessary for effective planning should definitely be guarded against.

A..

Yup ! That reminds me of the movie "The day the earth stood still" Where the alien is talking with a scientist discussing "that humans must be cleansed from the earth because of their self destructive nature" And the scientist's reply is "It is at the very edge or presibus that human learns & changes" ( sorry for the spelling)

shred

[Carol]

This is informative too.


Gerald Celente Predicts Economic Armageddon by 2012
YouTube - Gerald Celente Predicts Economic Armageddon by 2012


There is some information which leaves me very confused. Why bother cleansing the earth if there is going to be major earth changes? Won't the earth changes do the same thing? Or perhaps there is another reason for these scenarios - perhaps the reason behind the screen is to create fear - an emotion that the negative ETs feast off of. Or perhaps the reason is to release souls from their bodies so they can be trapped, captured by these same negative ETs and taken to another dimension or universe. These ideas are a bit out there yet they are what popped to mind as a consideration.

[Northern Boy]

There is some information which leaves me very confused. Why bother cleansing the earth if there is going to be major earth changes? Won't the earth changes do the same thing? Or perhaps there is another reason for these scenarios - perhaps the reason behind the screen is to create fear - an emotion that the negative ETs feast off of. Or perhaps the reason is to release souls from their bodies so they can be trapped, captured by these same negative ETs and taken to another dimension or universe. These ideas are a bit out there yet they are what popped to mind as a consideration.

There is no reason to fear it the collapse is going to happen and we can`t change that, it is necessary , What we have to watch out for is any solution they try to pass off as a way of trying to fix and continue the system. We need to end it .
Earth changes are going to occur and 2 places you don`t want to be are the east or the west coast and possibly any where near Yellowstone . There are going to be casualties with earth changes , the idea is to try and minimize , people are going to make there own choices as to where it will be safe . You have to decide what`s best for you and where you and those with you are going to feel safe . In the States its be said the four corners area is supposed to be safe I`m sure there are others I live in Canada so i expect any where above the great lakes should be good and out west , Stay away form the east coast

[alyscat]

I'm thinking that the goal will be to cart off as much money as possible before the earth changes - and then the PTB will be in what they consider a "safe place."

[Debi5]

YouTube - Web bot Cliff High on Rense 05/29/09 part 1


Wasn't sure where to put this!?

[Waterman]

I have been doing some digging and managed to get some more answers so, make sure to see my thread "List of Predictions - Update".

[Christo888]

This is informative too.


Gerald Celente Predicts Economic Armageddon by 2012
YouTube - Gerald Celente Predicts Economic Armageddon by 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2qDW34Fr64&NR=1)


There is some information which leaves me very confused. Why bother cleansing the earth if there is going to be major earth changes? Won't the earth changes do the same thing? Or perhaps there is another reason for these scenarios - perhaps the reason behind the screen is to create fear - an emotion that the negative ETs feast off of. Or perhaps the reason is to release souls from their bodies so they can be trapped, captured by these same negative ETs and taken to another dimension or universe. These ideas are a bit out there yet they are what popped to mind as a consideration.

Carol... not out there at all... actually, spot on! The winding up of as much of humanity into a bait ball as possible in order to force the highest amount of fear possible so that the power of love cannot shield and convert, in an attempt to capture God at some point in time!


Plus... 'Ruthenium' and quite possibly other new by-products can be produced from spent Nuclear fuel or fallout/waste. A desired element in the rare metals for its micro photo-luminescence and potential future technologies.

[TraineeHuman]

I'd like to comment about "releasing souls from their bodies" so that they can be "trapped". I happen to have some direct and real memories from before I was born and of the "between lives" or "afterlife" realm, so I'd like to try and clear up some confusions (and some of the paranoia some people feel). At the risk of sounding pompous or something, I guess I see this as almost a kind of "whistleblower testimony". People jump to all sorts of false conclusions in this area because of their total lack of remembered first-hand experience of this.

Firstly, this is kind of a digression, but it sets part of the scene, and does clarify things about what a "soul" actually is. Many Avalon posters seem to adopt the view that what we are is a body plus some kind of a "ghost in the machine". Well, there's a small book written about forty or fifty years ago called The Concept of Mind by Gilbert Ryle, who was Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge. Philosophers generally consider that book to be one of the classic works of twentieth century philosophy. In that book Ryle examines what the implications would be if a human being was indeed a "ghost in the machine" plus the body. Ryle dismisses the idea that the "ghost" could actually be the universe/God, on the grounds that that's "pantheism". But Ryle does argue and absolutely prove with stunning clarity that the "ghost" can't possibly be anything else. So: your "soul" is really the same as, or extremely at one with, the entire universe. As the Zen master Joshu put it, if you imagine the universe to be a diamond with billions of faces, each person is that diamond seen from a unique angle and perspective -- but they're not just the surface of the diamond, they're the whole diamond, from one unique angle. I hope this is enough to clarify that your "soul" is something that can't in any way be trapped. At least, your soul can only be trapped to the extent that it knowingly and deliberately initiates the trapping -- and creates appropriate protection beforehand.

Secondly, I'd like to talk about the personality. We know for a fact from biology that our all thoughts and feelings take expression as electric currents (and sometimes electro-chemical reactions) in our body. But from physics, we also know that whenever you have electric currents they create or add to a magnetic field that tries to keep re-creating more of the same currents (which is why habits are so easy to indulge).That gigantically complex electromagnetic field is precisely what we call "the personality". (The negative side of that field is precisely what many meditation traditions call "the ego".) And in my experience, any really good clairvoyant knows for a fact that when a person dies their personality splits off from them much as the body does. Not only that, but that it is a living thing with a little consciousness and lots of life-energy, and lives on in "the astral" for at least centuries. But it's not you -- it's kind of just your refuse. I do agree that reptilians and others may choose to do terrible things to such personalities (hence Peggy Kane etc). Also, the personalities of the deceased can get "trapped". But they're not you. The only difficulty there is that most people stay rather emotionally attached to their last personality after they die. Which is also the only cause of suffering for the dead, though that suffering can be considerable. (Being burned in "hell" fires refers to the personality, which eventually does disintegrate and kind of burn up. Also, 20% or 30% of people experience a kind of "hellish" initial shock when they die, but that's purely because they've been very dishonest with themselves about what they really feel -- about what's coming from their "soul", if you like.)

Thirdly, I happen to know that up until a few thousand years ago I used to be a guardian angel for individuals from this planet. (Millions of years before the humanish species there used to be an intelligent species engineered from horses, whose descendants left on the Earth are whales and dolphins. Dinosaurs were also a slightly intelligent species. And that's only to mention a few the different intelligent species of Earth.) Guardian angels are very real, but they come from a "higher frequency" than most ETs. They are the one and only custodians of human "souls" much as the greys/reptilians are currently the custodians of human politics and history (and more benevolently so than many people imagine). And any alien that wants to "trap" a soul (which is probably a meaningless or impossible concept anyway) will have to deal with the guardian angels (who are not to be confused with "guides"; many "guides" can be harmful -- including any that were your own personality in a previous life).

[Triaxis]

I have a friend that got conned into the "buy physical gold / store food" thing. Must have been maybe 18 months back.

Well the food is just sitting there, and he isn't eating it, because he cannot stomach any more tinned food.

And his physical gold turned out to be absolutely useless. He went on to ebay the other day to maybe try to sell some - 55 pages of gold bars for sale! Some starting at 99c free shipping LOL.

So it is pointless trying to sell that too - there are too many people out there trying to offload the stuff in exchange for US dollars.

If people want to buy into these prediction ect, then that's their free will. But I will say that there are many that bought into it in the recent past, and frankly, not only got financially burnt, but became estranged from family and friends who "wouldn't wake up" and reduced their general happiness levels, by stressing about things that never eventuated...

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

I have a friend that got conned into the "buy physical gold / store food" thing. Must have been maybe 18 months back.

Well the food is just sitting there, and he isn't eating it, because he cannot stomach any more tinned food.

And his physical gold turned out to be absolutely useless. He went on to ebay the other day to maybe try to sell some - 55 pages of gold bars for sale! Some starting at 99c free shipping LOL.

So it is pointless trying to sell that too - there are too many people out there trying to offload the stuff in exchange for US dollars.

If people want to buy into these prediction ect, then that's their free will. But I will say that there are many that bought into it in the recent past, and frankly, not only got financially burnt, but became estranged from family and friends who "wouldn't wake up" and reduced their general happiness levels, by stressing about things that never eventuated...

can you explain where your info is coming from that the usa dollar isnt going to collapse in tyhe next year.. you statement is complete nonsense:roll1:

[Lorien]

And his physical gold turned out to be absolutely useless. He went on to ebay the other day to maybe try to sell some - 55 pages of gold bars for sale! Some starting at 99c free shipping LOL.

So it is pointless trying to sell that too - there are too many people out there trying to offload the stuff in exchange for US dollars.



Interesting, because last time I checked Gold has gone up over $200 an ounce in the last 6 months and $300 and ounce in the last 2 years bringing it to a current price of ~$977/oz. So unless your friend owns bars of gold that are 1/900th of an ounce, your just flat out wrong or making stuff up.

[Triaxis]

can you explain where your info is coming from that the usa dollar isnt going to collapse in tyhe next year.. you statement is complete nonsense:roll1:

Well. laugh if you want to, but the proof lies in the fact that there is too much physical gold out there, and not enough cash

The best info would be to check into ebay.com and check out gold bars, silver bars, gold coins, silver coins (minted and unminted) and also jewelery (pure gold and silver chains ect)

It will take you a long time to go through that lot. Seems there is a lot of people out there trying to dump the stuff for cash. Go to other auction sites, or even the plethora of pawn shops around the place, it is the same thing. You cannot exchange physical gold for goods and services - everyone needs cash to do that.

There are many people out there predicting this and that. Personally, I believe that it is in no-one's interest for the dollar to collapse, so it won't happen. A methodical unwinding perhaps, but not a collapse.

Interesting, because last time I checked Gold has gone up over $200 an ounce in the last 6 months and $300 and ounce in the last 2 years bringing it to a current price of ~$977/oz. So unless your friend owns bars of gold that are 1/900th of an ounce, your just flat out wrong or making stuff up.

The paper value has gone up, but so too has most other things. The more USD that flood the market, the higher all prices go. It's not just gold.

In any case. My friend has physical minted gold coins and bars. If anyone can tell me where he can trade an ounce of it for US$1000, that would be great. As it stands, he is struggling to get half that. If he has paper gold, he might have been OK, but physical gold is hard to offload, impossible if you want market price..

Personally, I would like to buy a heap of that cheap gold, but like most people, I need cash right now as well.

[Waterman]

Nothing like putting it all on the line.

www.truthradio.com (http://www.truthradio.com) tonight 9pm central and talking more in depth about the post "Preditions List" posted on Project Camelot/Avalon forum.

[Christo888]

Well. laugh if you want to, but the proof lies in the fact that there is too much physical gold out there, and not enough cash

The best info would be to check into ebay.com and check out gold bars, silver bars, gold coins, silver coins (minted and unminted) and also jewelery (pure gold and silver chains ect)

It will take you a long time to go through that lot. Seems there is a lot of people out there trying to dump the stuff for cash. Go to other auction sites, or even the plethora of pawn shops around the place, it is the same thing. You cannot exchange physical gold for goods and services - everyone needs cash to do that.

There are many people out there predicting this and that. Personally, I believe that it is in no-one's interest for the dollar to collapse, so it won't happen. A methodical unwinding perhaps, but not a collapse.



The paper value has gone up, but so too has most other things. The more USD that flood the market, the higher all prices go. It's not just gold.

In any case. My friend has physical minted gold coins and bars. If anyone can tell me where he can trade an ounce of it for US$1000, that would be great. As it stands, he is struggling to get half that. If he has paper gold, he might have been OK, but physical gold is hard to offload, impossible if you want market price..

Personally, I would like to buy a heap of that cheap gold, but like most people, I need cash right now as well.

I just went to ebay and there are several 1 ounce coins or bars selling for $1000.00 or more so, what are you talking about?

Also, many local coin stores will buy large quantities of gold because they are having a hard time getting the real stuff, the .9999.

There is a difference between just 'gold' coins and real gold .9999! A gold coin doesn't necessarily mean pure gold at .9999.

[Triaxis]

I just went to ebay and there are several 1 ounce coins or bars selling for $1000.00 or more so, what are you talking about?

Maybe on sale, but it is doubtful whether it is selling. Gold slid today anyway, so no chance of getting close to $1000 now.

Gold is overpriced. That's why so many people are trying to hock it off. A good indicator is India.

http://www.commodityonline.com/news/India-exports-30-tons-gold-coins-scrap-gold-to-Dubai-18378-3-1.html

It's up to each person to decide, but I personally would not touch gold now. If I had bought a heap back in 2001 fo $300oz however, I would be encouraging as many people as possible to buy, buy, buy

[Waterman]

Thursday and Friday, on the Clay Douglas show via TruthRadio.com the method that the NWO is probably using to plan their next terrorist attack on Americans was presented.

Also, here is news from this weekend about the nuke warning (in the list).

Seattle warned of "imminent" nuke attack
Source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=97219&sectionid=3510203


A US congressman has raised doubts over the country's capability to intercept long-range trans-Pacific strategic missiles once fired from 'rogue regimes'.

Missouri Congressman Todd Akin has warned about a looming nuclear threat on the US's West coast as adversarial regimes such as North Korea expand their nuclear and rocket launching capacities.

The 62-year-old Republican Congress member recently wrote his personal assessment of current nuclear issues threatening US security in which he demands a fortified scheme to tackle potential problems.

"Now more than ever we need to continue a robust investment in missile defense. Cutting or canceling missile defense programs in the face of growing threats from North Korea and other rogue regimes will weaken the national security of our country and increase the threats from these governments that menace the safety and security of our allies and our own shores," wrote Akin.

He also went on to blast the truncated version of US President Barack Obama's military budget for 2009 when faced with asymmetric warfare.

"The Missile Defense Agency budget proposed this year by the Obama Administration strips $1.4 billion and calls for canceling or cutting major programs such as the Airborne Laser, Multiple Kill Vehicle, and the installation of additional Ground-Based Interceptor missiles in Alaska," he said.

However, he downplayed North Korea's current ballistic missiles know-how, cautioning the US president to take preemptive measures. "If we thought that North Korea was about to launch a long-range missile with a nuclear warhead, the president should and could destroy the missile on the launch pad. The North's missiles are liquid-fueled, still relatively basic and take several days to transport to the launch pad, assemble and fuel. They are large, stationary, relatively easy targets for U.S. forces."

"This "pre-boost phase" intercept" has always been my favorite form of missile defense. A commander would be a fool to wait until after an enemy had launched a missile to see of one of the anti-missile systems we deploy could intercept it. Tests indicated that the Aegis system deployed on Navy ships could not hit a Taepodong missile in its boost-phase, rising from North Korea. Nor could the Ground-Based Missile Defense System deployed in Alaska hit the missile in its mid-course phase if the North deployed even the simplest of counter-measures such as decoys, chaff or jammers."

He warned US authorities about further North Korea nuclear tests that could give that county the capacity to produce nuclear warheads.

North Korea says it tested its second nuclear device last month in the face of growing US threats to its sovereignty.

ARQN/JG/DT

[Waterman]

Alexey Fud, a well-known Russian clairvoyant, has made a breakthrough forecast for 2009. According to him, next year one of the American cities will be hit with a nuclear bomb. Alexey knew this long before and waited for the chance to tell about it. He decided to reveal the information he was given and share it with APINEWS.Ru.

YouTube - In 2009 USA will be hit with a nuclear bomb

[Connecting with Sauce]

Maybe on sale, but it is doubtful whether it is selling. Gold slid today anyway, so no chance of getting close to $1000 now.

Gold is overpriced. That's why so many people are trying to hock it off. A good indicator is India.

http://www.commodityonline.com/news/India-exports-30-tons-gold-coins-scrap-gold-to-Dubai-18378-3-1.html

It's up to each person to decide, but I personally would not touch gold now. If I had bought a heap back in 2001 fo $300oz however, I would be encouraging as many people as possible to buy, buy, buy

Bunkum is the technical term...

I tried to post a link... but it won't work... but do the below:

Go to ebay type in "gold bullion" in advanced search items, click the completed items icon.. then green items are the ones that have sold... You can do it where every you are globally!

Pretty much all the ones here are selling... only a couple of red (unsold items)...

What is your agenda for pushing this 'gold isn't selling' line?

From your link...
"Analysts like Robinson and Shah point out that the trade partnership between India and Dubai is increasingly being written in gold."

If anything this suggests they are moving away from fiat currency and counters your argument...

http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=6745

This could also indicate that 'dollars' abroad may be converting to gold and getting it shipped to them?

[Triaxis]

Pretty much all the ones here are selling... only a couple of red (unsold items)...

Well, this does indicate that a lot of the average punters out there are buying gold. But we must bear in mind that a lot of average punters bought bull market stock and property a few years back too .........

What is your agenda for pushing this 'gold isn't selling' line?

I am not advocating alternatives, thus there can be no other agenda. Save an alternate point of view, perhaps worth considering.

If anything this suggests they are moving away from fiat currency and counters your argument...

You will also see that there are very strict rules in India regarding gold sales. Bullion can not be sold - only value added gold (jewelery ect) and apparently scrap as well.

So we have Indian bullion dealers who's imports of gold have slumped 83%. And they are offloading what they can. We have ebay dealers selling gold like hotcakes.

If gold was destined to go up, up, up... you would assume these dealers would hold on to their gold like dear life wouldn't you? If gold was going up, up, up, you would assume they would be buying rather than selling?

If the dealers are not buying, but rather selling, well I personally would consider this fact very carefully before buying into gold

[Waterman]

This list of predictions however first determined has more potential than when first posted to be correct.

Since first posting I have had both John Moore, and Jack McLamb re-confirm their statement that an attack is still in the works per their sources. Now, since the list was given we have a congressman from Missouri saying the same, and another state senator also stating, we have a problem. And in a completely different venue we have a Russian clairvoyant saying the same thing, along with many saying that they feel uneasy, and sense a "disturbance in the force".

In the economic scene we financial/economic, commodity, currency, and research experts like, Bob Chapman, Gerald Celente, Jeff Bennett, Pat Kiley, and Cliff High re-confirming that the dollar is going to fail.

As I write, what we are seeing is the positioning and acquiring of dollars which are being converted to hard assets so that those in "the know" have liquidated, acquired, and moved out of dollars before the bottom is reached. We right now have businesses within the states refusing to accept dollars because they buy their products from Europe and their suppliers will not take the dollar. So into gold, land, and foreign markets is where the money, we gave the bankers, is going.... even the Mexican illegals are running back home to greener fields now.

We never went to war in the mideast for oil, we have a lot of tapped and untapped, cheap oil capped in the states. We went there to keep the deal Kissinger made with the Saudi's during Nixon days, in exchange for keeping the dollar, oil pegged. But those days are about over. Both times Iraq went off the dollar, neo-cons attacked them and were it Obama's days, the donkey's would have attacked via orders of the bankers.

So even though the gig is about up, the American public swallowed the bailout debt story, hook line and sinker. Now, the "hooligans of the heist" are spending as fast as they can to acquire hard assets and when they are done, look out. (and by the way I have seen gold bars and they are available....for a price I can't afford whew!)

Food, shortages still stand as previously reported. So the list is getting more venerable whether we like it or not.

As far as a pandemic, it is definitely time to dance since WHO can't figure out what to call a pandemic. Nevertheless we will know soon, but it isn't looking good.

This all means decisions will need to be made soon. My advice is, , , , . . . . .

Choose wisely!

[Peter]

Why is the dipstick Russian saying "terrorists" and not the Government are going to set off nukes.
This isn't news anyway they've been saying for a couple of years now one of the big 4 cities will be nuked. Its just more freemason jesuit scaremongering.
What are you going do with a bag full of gold and no food in your larder, eat the gold?.
And when they come knocking on your door saying hey we know you bought a bunch of gold hand it over the Government needs it, just like Dwight did to the American people after the last depression, you won't have any food or gold to eat.
Stock up now on dried food and essentials like solar panels, matches, candles or anything else that people will want to barter with not bloody gold.
Look out flying pig flu coming your way, run run shall I help you carry that bag of gold, sure looks pretty heavy and poor old you with nothing to eat. How about I trade you a slice of bread for.. lets say an ounce of that there gold your struggling with.
Or do as someone else mentioned on another thread buy shares in the gold mining companies, a lot easier than dragging lumps of gold around.

Still
Glad to be here, Peter

[Triaxis]

We right now have businesses within the states refusing to accept dollars because they buy their products from Europe and their suppliers will not take the dollar.

Are you sure of this information? US dollars are easily converted to other currency and vice versa. I cannot find any supporting evidence that backs this statement up.
Some specific names of companies would be helpful.

I'm a sole trader, that is not American, yet I deal exclusively in US dollars, and see no reason not to. The US dollar is fluid, but no more than most other countries. If the US Dollar takes a dump, the only effect it has on me is I pay more dollars when buying goods, and charge that higher amount when selling those goods..

(and by the way I have seen gold bars and they are available....for a price I can't afford whew!)

The correction phase is underway for gold. It is now down to $933 as I type, and has a way to go yet. If you want gold, I would suggest waiting a bit - it's unlikely to go up again in the near future IMO

[Northern Boy]

Why is the dipstick Russian saying "terrorists" and not the Government are going to set off nukes.
This isn't news anyway they've been saying for a couple of years now one of the big 4 cities will be nuked. Its just more freemason jesuit scaremongering.


Well Gaza could have happened for a reason have you ever thought that in order to start some kind of conflict they may need proof. Any unexploded ordinance big enough to hold a small nuclear bomb .What was the reason? They need some type of shell for the bomb that proves it was an Arab weapon this they then can parade around to show the ignorant mass`s "hey it was Iran" or what ever other arab nation they chose to use . Then congress grease`s there dirty little hands and Obama waves his magical wand and presto were off to war .

I have read that they (TPTB) have wanted to do this for some time and earlier reports I read even went so far as to name Phoenix as the city they choose but because of some internal disputes they abandoned it .

I`ll put nothing past them the only life that matters to them is their own we are simply here for their amusement so it seems . If they really loved the earth as much as they portray they do and want to eliminate or cull the population let them be amongst first to go

[Greetings]

Just came across this...

So what's next?

[mu2143]

The reason is that some of the predictions did not come true is, because the time line has changed. I have been waching the dollar for months now, what was noticeable is that on 11/12/2009 the dollar when't up in strength. You can see this is another 9/11 ritual being preformed. From that date the dollar when't up!!

As there where talk on the internet a view months ago that there will be a great deception comming to the earth.
It looks like there is going be some kind of crysis and my gut fealing is that it has to do with the flu where they are going to blame it on. So the dollar won't collapse in one go, but in steps. So they can introduce the new money system in steps.

[housemouse2]

well, here is my gut feeling prediction:

the next false flag attack will be in june of 2010. It will be a weapon detonated above the eastern side of the states. This "attack" will take out the electrical grid for the eastern half of the country and maybe a bit more.

The attack will be an EMP attack. It will not only take out the electrical grid but also render cars useless, drop planes and take out the internet.

The affects of this attack will render the eastern half of the USA with no power for 6 months to a year. when power starts to come back only government building will have it. Citizens will not have power for many years.

A single nuclear warhead, launched from a fishing boat of the coast will be blamed. However, I think the warhead has already been launched and is in a satellite circling the earth as we speak. It will be detonated at a certain elevation in a certain spot.

This attack will be blamed on Iran, russia and China. The USA understands it cannot go to war without a massive attack.

The reason for the war is for Russian and Chinese oil reserves. All wars are for resources. The government would rather go to war than admit we are bankrupt and cannot pay back our creditors. Not without lost of oil anyways.

The attack will leave 1/2 to 3/4 of the USA in the dark. It will take out the computers, distribution and affect every one of us. This will also take out norther Canada cities on the east. Bahamas, Florida keys and Bermuda.

The military has been hardened for such an attack but civilian infrastructure is vulnerable.

People are going to die of:

exposure
starvation
lack of medicine
lack of sanitation

We will also not have fresh water. You need to stock up on food, water medications, fuel...camping supplies. There will not be any law enforcement but there will be a draft...to go overseas and fight.

the rural areas will be on their own while cities will receive aid. you will still need to prepare and defend yourself.

martial law may be declared but will not be enforced. The police will be too busy with their own families.

[Scarab]

The reason is that some of the predictions did not come true is, because the time line has changed.

:mfr_lol:

[chelmostef]

It will be a weapon detonated above the eastern side of the states.

Or move to the west if possible.:original:

I live in the uk, so im ok. But I do live fairly low down so if one of the other predictions holds out then im f*cked. Doh!

Im holding out for the time line change. :smoke:

Stef

[Swanny]

Ah the good old time line change plays it's hand again :naughty:

[DawnJah]

Cool icon< waterman

[DawnJah]

I BELIEVE THE TIMELINS CHANGES ALL THE TIME>>>>THAT IS WHY IT IS UP TO US TO GET ON SIMILAR< OR HARMONIES FREQUENCIES>>>>>>>WE ALL ARE VARIATIONS OF THE SAME SONG>>>>>>>>>>IT IS A FREQUENCY GAME>>>THROUGH FOOD CHEMICALS THAT ALTER DENDRITES(OUR NEVOUS SYsTEM, MAybe this is related to the Etheric BODY?????

That is how we tap in.....THRUGH VIBRATION.......GET ALL IN BALANCE, THE MIND, AND ALLL THAT YOU KNOW....and put a conscious balance to represent the AGE OF AQUARIUS, THE BALANCE OF FEM AND MAS....and ALL OTHER POLARITIES THAT SHOW UP IN OUR ENVIRONMENT....

[joe2288]

I BELIEVE THE TIMELINS CHANGES ALL THE TIME>>>>THAT IS WHY IT IS UP TO US TO GET ON SIMILAR< OR HARMONIES FREQUENCIES>>>>>>>WE ALL ARE VARIATIONS OF THE SAME SONG>>>>>>>>>>IT IS A FREQUENCY GAME

According to Quantum physics there are infinite number of timelines ocurring

simultaneously, In the infinite flux of reality. Your thoughts and actions guide

you through different timelines, thus in a way you create your own reality.

This is why predicting the future is so difficult because the future not set in

stone and constantly shift's in and out of different timelines, dependent on

the person experiencing his/her own reality.

[Starlah]

However, I think the warhead has already been launched and is in a satellite circling the earth as we speak. It will be detonated at a certain elevation in a certain spot.

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Housemouse this scenario you speak of is familiar from a book I've recently read called "One Second After" by William Forstchen...I'm glad you've introduced an innovative change to the stageplay as noted above......
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The human species must survive! Never relinquish to the controllers
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