OBIWAN Creative help.

[MastaYoda]

Hello everyone,

Kerry needs our help with new site plan in becoming a Jedi Light Warrior. You can find full description from our earlier post HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14208&page=2).
We need your help with creative Ideas and content for the new site as well as reaching more people. I'm currently a designer and willing to mockup layouts and Ideas of what ever you guys bring to the table.

Lets work together and make Project Camelot stronger. They need our help, and so does our world.

[Jonathon]

I am working on some thoughts...

Wanted to say that I really like the idea in general. The "jedi knight" part is pretty corny but I'll play :tongue2:

[TheChosen]

The idea is a very good one. Hacker sites have had these kinds of systems for a long time now. Translating this into these circles can be very interesting. Maybe some of you here remember cyberarmy and Zebulun. I played it quite a lot back then.

The main goal of this kind of system is multifold

1) It effectively screens people with high amounts of knowledge and skill and places them into ranks. It is great to be able to talk to people on the same level as yours.

2) Everyone working its way up the ladder learns a lot from the process. It usually takes a lot of research to solve each challenge.

The system usually involves about 10 challenges and 10 ranks. As you solve each of them your rank grows as well as the difficulty of each challenge.

The design should not be public however, as later on it spoils the challenge as many people will find what has been discussed in the archives. The design should be done by a group of 10-15 people at most at a hidden forum.

I have been thinking on this subject for the last few months, that there should be some kind of a curriculum design and a roadmap on how to navigate all the knowledge on the internet so one can effectively grow from a 3D human to an awakened state of consciousness.

Jedi knight? Why not.. although I disagree with the jedi ways and philosophy. In order for one to truly master 'the force' one must study all its aspects, not only the light side.

[Machinamentum]

Ranking is good.

But who is going to say they are enlightened enough to oversee the whole curriculum? It will need to be group appointed by the the higher ranking members. But who's to say the "high ranking" is all that. We all came here because of the interviews or forum, there may need to be a poll or prof of ability. Maybe we here at Avalon can determine the high ranking?

Now isn't it that we are some-what trying to escape the pyramid hierarchy of dominance? Figuring out or transcending the management paradigms of old is what is needed for this and needed for all. Nothing easy.

There are other online sites that claim enlightenment through study of their direction, but your only going to really find enlightenment within yourself.

So then what we are looking at is some Buddhist meditation classes, some conspiracy courses and some modern shamanism practice. Eeah. We could make a boot camp?

Now didn't George Green say somewhere that he could teach the ability to call ET's? Now that would be something to learn. I think that having interaction with those whom we look up to in the Camelot videos would be encouraging.

I'm a warrior of light and know we need more help. So I'm stoked about the idea, I just don't want to be disappointed with the outcome. This is a complex thing and we need people like Tsarion and Menard to be an active participating influence. I fear that if we don't get these prodigy tutors support, things may fail due to the feeling of abandonment and neglect from those whom we feel might be on the brink of true knowledge.
Really, for the idea that is trying to be formed we need ground breaking influence. Not to say that that isn't a possibility, but the people who risk exposure and the possibility of being "taken out" to make a video for the "reason" of trying to get the info out but won't participate in the reaction of their doing is questionable.

I just spent a few day's away from Avalon, I will ponder ideas as they may come. I want this to work and I'm down to help in anyway.

[lemon_sky88]

OBIWAN Lives! Way to go Yoda! With the right energy we can do anything. Im very excited to see where this has gone so far. I dont know about the hirearchy ideas that have been discussed here (thru testing and what not) people with lesser knowledge need our help to get to our level is the idea. Testing is BOARING! I think kerry was talking about makeing two sections for young people and one for adults. And having an interactive moduel of sorts to go thru to keep you interested throughout the presentation which hopefully will have the effect on the avverage sceptical joe, that the camelot interviews had on us. This is all about awakening people not putting them into classes and hirearchys. I cannot wait to see some pilots and what have you. Im ready to distribute yesterday! O- and yoda let me know if u come up with a layout for those cards id like to get them printed. even if they just reference project camelot it would be something for now. Thanks to every one. This seed is planted lets come together and collectivlly grow this wil the right energys! :thumb_yello:

[Seashore]

Hacker sites have had these kinds of systems for a long time now.

What is a hacker site?

[lemon_sky88]

I believe hes refering to sites that hackers go to and network. They have forums and so forth to further there knowledge and get together to hack things and share tools.

[Seashore]

I believe hes refering to sites that hackers go to and network. They have forums and so forth to further there knowledge and get together to hack things and share tools.

Please elaborate. What hackers? Motivation?

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

ok I posted in the wrong thread I think, so here it is again...just so everyone knows...

I am a designer/flash developer. I am willing to offer some help as well...I design user interfaces and and I also design and program flash games and interactive pieces.

I also have a lot of experience with viral web marketing, ie: really interesting/fun pieces that people send to their friends, maybe we can work something in like that too; if they are done right, they can spread like wildfire.:)

[lemon_sky88]

I dont know a whole lot as i am not a hacker. But I do know a little about what there into. Alot of them love to pirate programs. Getting them for free ass a download and "cracking" or generating a key or serial number that follows the same sequence as a real # allowing them to register and use the product as tho it is a bought in store full version. Theres anouther group that I dont know as much about hat specialize in retrieving passwords and access to sights password protected. They also can acess the are in which you edit and review back round info (IP Adresses ect.) on a website. They also gain acess thru remote pc or can take over a pc and explore. (you can actually see them moving the mouse on the screen when there doing this) they explore govt files and corprate files and things. There goals are either to recieve free stuff, expose the unexposed, or some think if you own a computer you should know everything about it right away and if you dont, they believe its ok to mess up ur comp with viruses n such. ( its just a game to them) I dont support all hacking but going in deep cover is sometimes the only way to retreve info from someone who holds the info prisioner.

[TheChosen]

seashore: Pretty much what lemon_sky88 said, only it goes much deeper than that. I don't necessarily agree with hacking other people's private property (meaning taking control over their PCs without them knowing or taking control over their web pages), but I liked a lot the mindset of the hacker community (No limits, No boundaries, Knowledge is everything and everyone can learn if given the chance). They usually have communities and sometimes the cause is quite noble. Cyberarmy was such back in 2000 where through the challenges you rose up the ranks and gained influence over where the community was going. They used to make petitions and fight against the government trying to expand their monitoring of the internet.. I think they are still at it.

A hacker is someone who thinks outside of the box and tries to beat 'the system', whatever the system is. It was not coincidental that Neo and Trinity in 'The Matrix' were hackers before they were freed.

Anyway, not to get lost off topic here. The reason I mentioned them is because there are many similarities. What they try to accomplish in cyberspace we try to accomplish in the expanded reality. We all try to break 'the system' imposed upon us. I've seen the concept of challenges work and produce real results which is why I believe it can be translated here. Don't forget however that it is mainly a game, so we shouldn't take it too seriously with all the ranks and hierarchies.

[Lorien]

First off, I too am a graphic/web designer and musician so any help needed is available.

The idea of this project is to do what the purpose of the Ground Crew has always done, and that is to join together and come up with ways to help raise the awareness and consciousness of those who are not aware of the reality of the world around them (see my post in this thread (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13964)). I am currently working on a tv concept that would be utilized to bring some of these truths to the masses, just need to finish the proposal and find a production company to take it. But back to this thread.....

This is meant to be for everyone, of all ages, and not a secretive service for those in the know. However I think it may be a good idea to have some kind of program where people in certain regions can get "trained" to be "educators" so that we can do talks in our local communities, stand on corners, or set up booths at events and conferences to spread the word. This can be supplemented by print materials, DVD's etc. I have pitched this idea before but didn't get much of a response.

I think the new site needs to be divided into different sections. A newbie can go to the Apprentice section lets say and start with the basics. Things such as watching "The World According to Monsanto" and other fact based interviews and such to open there eyes so they see that not everyone is out for their best interests. Once that happens, they can advance to higher levels and learn more. The idea is to not scare people away with crazy stories of shape shifting lizards and plans of mass genocide. People who are not open to such things or do not have an open mind will just be turned away, never to return again.

I think think a good idea might be to work together as a group of artists, musicians, writers, and spiritualists to put together a movie so profound and awakening that you have to be a fool not to take it to heart and change the way you look at the world. There are many videos out there that attempt this, but few come close to that goal. We have many members here who are very eloquent with words and are able to put things in simple and understandable ways, which is what we need more than anything.

Anyway, gotta run to work. That is my input for now. Talk amongst yourselves!

[lemon_sky88]

Lorien, This is right on track. We need to keep this creativity flowing! This could be that single instance that changed everything! Is there any existing pamflits and what nots that i could reference to have printed? we have a huge community festivle coming up in downtown columbus that i will be attending all 3 days and I would like something to hand out and talk to people about. Thanks a bunch and keep this energy flowing. This thread is "the one" hehe :lightsabre:

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

1) It effectively screens people with high amounts of knowledge and skill and places them into ranks. It is great to be able to talk to people on the same level as yours.

2) Everyone working its way up the ladder learns a lot from the process. It usually takes a lot of research to solve each challenge.

The system usually involves about 10 challenges and 10 ranks. As you solve each of them your rank grows as well as the difficulty of each challenge.



I think this is a brilliant idea for an online experience...HOWEVER....I personally don't think the ladder/ranking/heirarchy system is the right fit for what is trying to be accomplished here..

here's why...

“You cannot solve a problem from the same consciousness that created it. You must learn to see the world anew.”---Albert Einstein

Many of you are aware of the concept that fighting the PTB according to their rules only gives them strength, as much as joining them. It is the Law Of Attraction. You give the 'opponent' energy either way, simply because you are playing WITHIN THEIR guidelines. In other words, we must step off THEIR chessboard and creat a NEW chessboard. Ghandhi was extremely effective by encompassing this concept.

I believe that the idea of RANK or HIERARCHY in any system plays into this perfectly. One who employs a HIERARCHY for any purpose reinforces the HIERARCHY energy. If what we are truly trying to accomplish is planetary equality (equality of knowledge, equality of liberty, equality of value of life) then I believe it is ESSENTIAL to reflect or BECOME THAT change which we desire to attain.

I also believe that we are headed in this direction whether we like it or not, and my philosophy is to stay ahead of the curve, riding the wave of group consciousness.

All that being said, may I suggest something a tad more co-creative/collaborative:

I love Chosen's idea of challenges, but perhaps we could wrap it in more of an exploratory context, much like how ALL OF US here have gotten to this very moment in time on our own myriad paths.

The design should not be public however, as later on it spoils the challenge as many people will find what has been discussed in the archives. The design should be done by a group of 10-15 people at most at a hidden forum.

Please consider what I have said, as I know personally I dont feel comfortable being involved if I feel as if WE have suddenly nominated ourselves as the purveyors of truth, requiring people to see things OUR WAY in order to advance. It hints loosely of organized religion or mystery cschool, and personally, I KNOW that no-ONE has ALL the correct answers, but for themselves.

(sorry for being so abstract, but I trully think this MUST be pondered if our aim is truly to inform and enlighten)

Peace and Respect,
CV

[lemon_sky88]

The goal is not to elect ourselves head of anything. I think the common goal here is to spread a concept. Simply get people to explore, plant a seed so to speak. Breaking them out of the TV Box. I can absolutely understand the concern and agree with you fully. This is why we need every ones opinion to make shur this happens correctly :original:

[Czymra]

Agreed. I don't agree with the formulation as Kerry/Bill put it at all but the system can be great.
I feel what you mean TheChosen but I also am strictly against such hierarchy. I am more concerned about this being another labyrinth of information that I'm sure I won't need.

The question is: What value can really be given across a website?

[lemon_sky88]

Its all influence. We are hopefull by nature. My instincts are to be good to fellow man and share anything that may be usefull. The website can act as a seed. Its not ment to be the ultimate answer. Ur average Joe working his 8 hr. job has a family, cooking cleaning kids work work work... No time for thinking about anything other than when do I get a break. Hes a good guy, very open minded interested in alieans a bit *never researched it. stars are cool. Those sykick kids on tv r cool type of guy. His little time at the end of the night may not include a labtop and google. (even tho he has one accessable) I give this pamflit that references this website that talks about this interesting stuff that touches on my feelings/ energy. (911 truth movement, anti gravity and free energy... some real concrete stuff that would save them money or something) So he checks it out and then bam truth hits. he caint stop and hes one of us. youtubin project camelot stayin up till 3 am, discovering energy fields never felt b4 opening up a whole new world. Its not about the one web site ITS THE ENERGY> Lets inject this site with positive energy to keep this ball rolling. We must be the change we wish to see!! Its important

your fellow JEDI :lightsabre:

[MastaYoda]

Sorry guys, I have been busy all day today with the family! However I'm just going to through the idea I have been working on also I will need your opinion.

After the Jedi site, here is what I got:
1. The first page will have more like a selection of "Jr"(junior) or "Sr"(Senior).
2 I'm thinking more of a room where you see a group of Jedi’s in a circle (just like in the movie where they are interviewing / questioning Obiwan.
As you put your mouse over "Jr" you will see a shadow like figure of a kid in the middle of the circle, if you put your mouse over "Sr" you will see a shadow like figure of an Adult.
3. Once you make your selection. You will be directed to a page with a map, basicly a guide that has all the steps for each category of interest, in witch you want to master. More like a tree with branches to specific categories.
4. Each category will include a Video and Content. In the most simplest form. More like 101 guides.
Well that’s the idea that came to Friday night. And I have been working around in making it simple! But will love to gets everyone’s opinion on this.

I will try to have some layouts for everyone to see by Monday Night or so.
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In addition, I'm thinking in buying the following domain name "Awareness wakeup". I want to use this site as a 101 site to wake up people and more of a 1 stop site to download Flyers, Posters, Bumper stickers, full DVD to share with the rest of the world. As well as Links to all sites like Project Camelot and all other. But again, the purpose of the site is for does people that have no clue of what is going on and to walked them with basic steps. Just like I posted in the earlier thread.
Like to get everyone opinion on this or if they have a better name?

[sleepingnomore]

You need to start out with an original piece of music and lyrics that will draw people in to read the information. Music is a nice way of disarming people regardless of what they believe.

[Seashore]

I've seen the concept of challenges work and produce real results which is why I believe it can be translated here.

People being challenged to grow rather than defeat a challenger(s)?

However I think it may be a good idea to have some kind of program where people in certain regions can get "trained" to be "educators" so that we can do talks in our local communities, stand on corners, or set up booths at events and conferences to spread the word.

I love the idea of face-to-face communication.


I think the new site needs to be divided into different sections. A newbie can go to the Apprentice section lets say and start with the basics. Things such as watching "The World According to Monsanto" and other fact based interviews and such to open there eyes so they see that not everyone is out for their best interests. Once that happens, they can advance to higher levels and learn more.

:thumb_yello:

I love Chosen's idea of challenges, but perhaps we could wrap it in more of an exploratory context, much like how ALL OF US here have gotten to this very moment in time on our own myriad paths.


:thumb_yello:

I give this pamflit that references this website that talks about this interesting stuff that touches on my feelings/ energy.

:thumb_yello:

[Seashore]

... we have a huge community festivle coming up in downtown columbus that i will be attending all 3 days and I would like something to hand out and talk to people about...

lemon_sky88,

When is the event?

[Jonathon]

I think the best thing to do right now is to begin categorizing all of the information into a workable stream or flow chart. Starting with master topics and then branching out into the many subtopics. The master topics can begin with two points: 1) YOU and 2) External World & Control Grid or everything outside of you. (Imagine the Yin & Yang - the control you exert and the control that is exerted upon you in context of the global mind). So in a sense, you have the section that provides the problems (External), then the section that provides the solutions (YOU: Internal). I imagine a massive, linkable flow "tree" that allows for visual understanding of how all of these things are interrelated... probably harder than it sounds, but a visual picture is very important for keeping things in their contexts and providing needed structure to bodies of knowledge than can be overwhelming as we all know. I imagine a "sun" where the right half mirrors the left half... the "rays" are the trees of information, the left side "problems" are mirrored by the right side "solutions". This way we achieve visual balance both in terms of structure and organization, but also in terms of the psychological/emotional... the ability to see that with every problem there is a series of solutions.

EG: A. YOU: Spirituality, Meditation (deserves it's own category), Preparation, Roles & Role Fulfillment, Health, etc. Naturally all of these are related to how well we know ourselves, the things we do or can do (solutions), the things we believe, and the areas we have immediate control over. Each of these will have a multitude of their own subtopics.

B. Outside of YOU: at least 2 parts: I. Break down the many parts of the control grid: 1) Monetary system/economics, 2) Agriculture and food 3) medicine, 4) energy, 5) news and media, 6) culture (TV, Music, personal technology) 7) government, 8) religion and organized spiritual influences; II. those items not specifically related to the direct control grid: 1) UFOs, ETs and related technology, 2) Historical record (the REAL history of past events including and number of conspiracies, wars etc). Plenty can be added here.

Each topic and subtopic will have a "tree" of linked media - news, youtube, books, articles etc. Each piece will have it's own page with a description, a rating of value voted in by members (say * out of 10 stars) and a comment section below where members have made particular points about the value of the media piece (or otherwise). Each of these media sections will have a list of members who have offered themselves as helpers/instructors for the particular subject or media. The names of these members can be clicked on which will bring up a chat bar to send messages or questions to about the subject in question.

** Think in terms of how Amazon works for e-commerce, except this will be more interactive - allowing for direct or indirect contact of members who have offered themselves for assistance on a particular subject. It's like a group school.

Any of these should be able to be edited on the fly by admins - to add media, remove media, clarify points etc.

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Additions:

1) Each member should be able to contribute information via posts, media links etc. Those additions can go into a private clearing house of sorts where a minimum number of votes and high enough rating must be achieved in order for it to be published into the tree by an admin. (Perhaps a submit link on every topic or subtopic page).This will keep the contributions coming in while allowing for a system to eliminate superfluous, fearful, misplaced or otherwise non-useful additions to appear in the public copy. We need consensus and clarity. These subjects can get very messy with opinion, off-subject tangents, emotion, argument and other manifestations of ego - we don't need any of that in a resource/information/teaching model of information delivery.

2) Effectively what we are doing here is taking the Avalon forum and putting it into a more useful structure while taking out some of the other personal negatives that get intermingled; then adding a help and teaching section that can be accessed by request of the user. In the end, we will have a ONE STOP SHOP in place for all of this material on the web.God what I would have given for that back when I started... what a mess it is out there. Never know what to trust or where to find the good stuff. This is how we can help! We have all been there!

3) If we are lucky, we will be able to put "master admins/helpers" (plural) over specific topics of their choosing based on their experience, knowledge and proficiency with that/those subject(s). These people will be in charge of maintaining the structure and clearing-house as well as be first in line on the "help" list for that subject. This is where the "Jedi Teaching" really comes into play. If you want to add a curriculum and mastery line, the "masters" would we in charge of creating it with whatever resources they deemed necessary, then to be voted on by the membership as a whole to be edited or published. "Mastery" or whatever you want to call it, would open the window for that person to join the master admins for that section. This is not a privilege as much as it is a responsibility. Privilege is old paradigm. This entire process should be fully transparent top to bottom and as flexible as possible. Hierarchy has no place here. There are just levels of abilities... or more specifically, greater levels of service able to perform/give.

4) There will also be a user rating system for the admins/helpers to allow for a secondary check and balance and allow for the membership on the whole to assist in resolving problems, areas of weakness, disputes etc before they get out of hand. Open communication is key and some form of rating system may allows for that communication to occur objectively.

[MastaYoda]

Jonathon,

I like some of the ideas you have included, especially people's comments and or does that are currently following that category / branch. How ever, I don not like the idea of charging anyone once they are in a higher lever and wish to learn a "master" technique. If we really want to wake up people with such knowledge we need to share it.

All I'm really doing is collaborating everyone's ideas and put them on the layout as best fit. Once I have the layout, it will be sent to Kerry and posted so everyone can see it. She will decide the overall process of things. But if this is something that well 'ALL' decide / agree, then more then likely Kerry will agree as well.

[MastaYoda]

The goal is not to elect ourselves head of anything. I think the common goal here is to spread a concept. Simply get people to explore, plant a seed so to speak. Breaking them out of the TV Box. I can absolutely understand the concern and agree with you fully. This is why we need every ones opinion to make shur this happens correctly :original:

I completely agree, and I think this is what Kerry is looking for. Its more a program / class to help people learn and explore more them self's in ways of spiritual means. It has nothing to do with being a 'Master Jedi' nor rankings, or being better then anyone else.
The term for becoming a 'Jedi' master, is the process of knowing everything their is to know about you, life, and how we are connected as one. Almost like Neo in 'The Matrix' the movie. Once he understood he was able to do anything and take out the agents, because now he knew how the system worked!

[Jonathon]

Jonathon,

I like some of the ideas you have included, especially people's comments and or does that are currently following that category / branch. How ever, I don not like the idea of charging anyone once they are in a higher lever and wish to learn a "master" technique. If we really want to wake up people with such knowledge we need to share it.

All I'm really doing is collaborating everyone's ideas and put them on the layout as best fit. Once I have the layout, it will be sent to Kerry and posted so everyone can see it. She will decide the overall process of things. But if this is something that well 'ALL' decide / agree, then more then likely Kerry will agree as well.

Not sure where you got the idea that I was intending to charge anyone for learning master techniques (unless I am misunderstanding you). I completely against that. I'm for full disclosure and transparency; full exchange free of charge.

I would just say that we should keep in mind that there should be some kind of process in which qualified groups can eliminate/sideline extraneous material and instead focus on the most important (this is where the clearing-house and rankings come in). Most people do not have 1000s of hours to commit to every little thing out there... nor the patience. Newcomers in particular will need some way to qualify what they are seeing as well as keep a lid on the overall structure/context and we can use our experience to help them do just that. I'm going from the point of view of what would have been most helpful to me when I started this journey.

Anyway, hope the perspective is helpful. I'm not attached to any of it, so take what is useful and throw the rest away I say =)

[lemon_sky88]

Seashore: The event is called comm fest. Its 3 days of music, vendors Loads and Loads of people. its a ball. I found out its the last weekend in june so i have a little more time than i thought. The whole community from all walks come out to play and it is just a ball. they have poetry/newage tent a main stage a theater tent. a punk tent. jazz tent. theres just so much to list but heres the website if you would like to take a look. http://www.comfest.com/index.php

[Seashore]

...I found out its the last weekend in june so i have a little more time than i thought...heres the website if you would like to take a look. http://www.comfest.com/index.php

I LOVE the words "Community Festival." I think you have a great idea.

Okay so you have about a month to get this card/brochure/pamphlet together...

[lemon_sky88]

yup, it shouldnt be too hard. I have a friend in printing, I just need a nice layout to grab peoples attention. My goal is to just reference project camelot. Are you ready for the truth, or maybe heres the blue pill/ red pill. Take it if you wish. Just somethin that gets these ppl to want to go fishing so to speak. The comm fest is a cool idea because it gets people to open there minds a bit. Youve got all the hippie/ free spirits come out. There chillin in groups all over drinkin (which is supplied by the festivle) We even openly smoke (marijuana) and because so much of it is around and in the spirit of the festivle. The patroling cops wont even mess with ya. Its music on multiple stages from around 9am to 11pm for all 3 dys (fri, sat, sun) You get you Yippies (used to be hippies but bought in) come and take off there wigs. The real straight cuts even chill out a bit and open there minds to accept th counter culture so to speak. I dont have the figures but the park is packed id say anywhere from 30,000 + at any given hour. Just wanted to give an idea of the tone of the festivle in downtown columbus.. I think that this is a great time to spark peoples intrust in something they would not usially consider so im preaty excited about the oprotunity to promote this life changing group that ive found to be such an awsome influence on my life. I think everyone should have the chance to consider the information that bill and kerry work so hard to get out there =)

[lemon_sky88]

I wanted to add the energy thats being pourd into this thread is insipring! We must keep this flowing and i wanted to incourage any ideas or concerns. Please keep them coming so we dont lose momentum. YODA! You the man!!! keep up this awsome work i am so anxiouslly awaiting a chance to peak at ur progress. sounds like we have a great foundation so far and the concept seems to be right on as to what i had in minf

your fellow JEDI :lightsabre:

[Seashore]

...or maybe heres the blue pill/ red pill...

Elaborate on this a little bit. I'm not sure what it means...

[Myplanet2]

I think it's good for us to try to create some new forward motion that will provide opportunity to reach out and teach and learn.

I don't however believe that we should pattern our efforts on the failed hierarchical "top down" paradigm.

The main points have already been raised in this thread, about who decides on the definition of top, or even on how to scale the levels one would pass through on the way up, or what anyone needs to learn in order to rise in the ranks.

There are inherent assumptions I don't take as necessarily given in this scenario. For example, the assumption that anyone knows what another needs to learn, to progress on their own personal journey towards enlightenment. Or even what anyone elses' eventual destination really is?

I think we need to remember that we are creative beings of a very high order right now. We don't need anything whatsoever, in order to envision and create the world we want.

The PTB are always trying to steer us into various hierarchical (top/up is better) games. It's built into everything, from schooling, government, work/business, health/medical, policing, military, you name it. It's almost natural to fall into that trap by now. And of course, the PTB are already at the top of every one of those types of games, and therefore will steer them towards their own ends.

But I don't think that system of doing business has much time left right now. I believe it's impossible, where we are headed in the very near future.

So why not just get to work creating the future we want to see? Nothing more complicated than that. We simply envision the world we want, and promote that model as broadly as we can.

I haven't checked any out myself yet, but I hear that there are some very popular online virtual reality games, where the participants create the characters and the game itself as they go. That type of playing field sounds conducive to creating without reference to existing systems/paradigms.

We'd simply start by listing what we'd like to see our world look like. What we'd like to see people doing. The flavour of life. The pursuit of what interests and excites us, rather than the pursuit of not enough "bucks" to be able to live the way we'd like to live. An alternative to the pursuit of more power and control over others, or the gathering of more useless "stuff".

We all know what we don't like. Our noses are rubbed in it every day. It's time to focus on what we DO like, and to really start to put our descriptions of what it will be like, out there for all to consider.

I've been waiting for something like this to really go viral. I think the timing is pretty good, or coming very soon, for an idea like this to catch on.

The more tired people become of the same old game, the more open they are to a new one. The PTB are betting all their marbles on being the default creators of the new game (which will be exactly like the old game, but with even tighter control and more pronounced polarity than ever). I'm betting that they'll be standing there with a puzzled look on their faces saying "hey guys.... it was supposed to be our game you fell into..."

And we'll be standing there saying "are you guys still here? why don't you make yourselves useful by cleaning up some of your pollution, or growing some potatoes, or handing over some of that suppressed technology that we could use in our new game of "all of us"?

[Seashore]

I LOVE the words "Community Festival." I think you have a great idea.

Okay so you have about a month to get this card/brochure/pamphlet together...

lemon_sky88,

I think it might be a good idea to have a separate thread for your festival/handout project...

[lemon_sky88]

Its a side something i supose me and yoda have been working on. The original thread i started that got this goig was Ground Crew Mobilize. But i wildirect further messages to yoda no problem. I was just mentioning this portion on the thread because Yoda frequents the thread and it is semi related to this project. The site yoda is developing came from the original idea of promoting something to sleepers to awake them. How to promote would be on topic i believe. This was my idea kinda like the cards that they hand out to promote a concert or event. I can understand the want to focus on the site first at this time. Red Pill Blue Pill is a reference to the movie "The Matrix" Neo when being awakend was offerd a red pill to go back to sleep and forget about the truth. The blue pill would take him forward. He took the blue of course. Thanks =)

[lemon_sky88]

The festivle i mentioned is already an orginized event... I have no part in the orginizing. I just partake lol. Just to make this note

[lemon_sky88]

MyPlanet2: I can understand all of your concerns in reguard to a Hiarchy or system to this idea. I agree we must operate outside of their system which they've set up in order to evolvoe =).. Which means not including a system. Hiarchy is not the goal. Arranging the order in which information is givin is the goal. If you know nothing and come to the site we wish to start from the ground up. If you come to the site and have already researched a know a bit well start you else where. Its just an information flow design and not a hiarchy. this that i describe will probably not be the end result i just wanted to give an idea of how to think of this with out thinkin who ever graduates or what ever is on top. Because that not out intentions and is not the case and we see a few people confused in this thread about the intent. I hope this helps to clear this up a little bit for ya. Can i subjest to include what you invension when you hear us speak of this so we can incorperate your ideas?

[MastaYoda]

Red Pill Blue Pill

:mfr_omg:I love this Idea! I'll work around that concept on one side. And on the other side I'm thinking on putting the planet Earth or even the solar star system. Putting the words "Not sure how deep the rabbit hole goes?"

[MastaYoda]

I think it's good for us to try to create some new forward motion that will provide opportunity to reach out and teach and learn.

I don't however believe that we should pattern our efforts on the failed hierarchical "top down" paradigm.


I agree. Being the fact that their is so much to learn, it is real hard to put everything together. The way I'm designing the layout, is based on 5 sections, from beginner to advanced. Each section, will have its branch of categorize to learn from. This is where we all need to work together categorize each section. What would be Ideal for the beginner.....and so on all the way to the advanced level (section 5).

So technically its going to look like hiarchical diagram, but will not work exacly like one. The user will have the option to select / learn any given category with in that section and probably provide a recommended / best practice in which order to learn.

Well I hope I'm making my self clear. I think once I have some visuals, people will get the Idea, and we can probably tweak it as we go.

[lemon_sky88]

Bada Bing, the references to movies and such seem corney at first. But then you have to relize we are trying to reeach sleepers. I think using material there familiar with may help to make a connection or spark interest. :original: Glad I can help and again im lovin this energy. My instinct tells me this is a steping stone or is itself monumentous. Thanks for you attention Yoda and thanks for the input from every one else. Keep this coming we need input input input to make shur we get this done right and change the world! well at least be instramental in the changes to come if thats a beter way of putting it :lmao:

[MastaYoda]

I have good news!

I have finished the layout design for the Jedi page. You can view the PDF file here (http://www.erickstudios.com/projectcamelot/Project_Camelot_Jedi_layout.pdf). Also, I have emailed this out to Kerry and hope to get some feedback.

I did my best to incorporate some of the elements we all talked about in the most simplest form. If anyone has any questions please let me know. Hope you like what you see. :original:

[lemon_sky88]

Yoda, this looks awsome! I like the way youve set up for users to review video and chat at the same time so as thoughts pop up you can shoot them to the "teachers". I like thisconcept of teacher. Do you go thru the tutorial to achieve teacher or dose an admin of sorts declair who the teachers are? I wounder if way shower is beter way of putting this to avoid our critics accusations of a hiarchy system. Having those with most knowledge pointed out will help the community in my opinion. I caint wait to test this once the page becomes interactive. Has content been discussed as far as what you show to the beginers vs. the advanced? You are deffinatlly an asset to this community and I for one am enjoying your work! You rock YODA! :roll1:

[Malletzky]

The idea of putting as much as possible of knowledge on one single site is great. Videos, Books, stories, dreams, experiences...all is wellcomed.

Nevertheless, I would also like to express my concerns that you should really try to avoid presenting this material in any hierarchical order.

Who decides what's the apropriate level of any person? Please don't make that mistake to assume. What's a beginner? Who's advanced? How advanced? Who knows what's the best for me? Or for you? Who decides which material is apropriate for a certain level?

For example: there's an absolute beginner, a "sleeper", or a highly tallented lightworker out there who's abilities are enormous, but unrevealed. He sees the presented material and "decides" that he should go directly to the top level. He reads the first pages of any book, or sees the first minutes of any video and then, suddenly, it makes "BANG" in his/her head...he/she gets a "completelly" download, he/she understand it all, all hidden thruts, all that is, all is revealed!!

Now, imagine that he didn't followed his/her own inner guidance, but he accepted some others opinion where to start. That would be an enormous waste of time in order to climbe the hierarchical levels and "learn" step by step...

IMO, Each individual should try to tune in to his/her own inner guidance in order to move forward. Only if guided from your own heart you'll find the apropriate material for you in any moment of your awakening path.

Please don't get me worng, I don't want to offend anyone, I'm just presenting my subjective input, my own point of view how the things should be organised.

with:wub2:
malletzky

[MastaYoda]

Who decides what's the apropriate level of any person? Please don't make that mistake to assume. What's a beginner? Who's advanced? How advanced? Who knows what's the best for me? Or for you? Who decides which material is apropriate for a certain level?

with:wub2:
malletzky

I totally agree. This is where I kind of got stock :wall:, in trying to decide the appropriate level idea. But after reading your post my creative thinking mind just went "BAAM" and the Idea came to my head.

So, instead of creating a level based method why not just create a circle "Circle of Enlightenment”. The circle will consists of points around it, such as a level but will not contain the hierarchies such as Levels, 1,2,3… and so on. It will work more like Groups. Each dot will represent a group. Each group will have its categories. Woooow, I’m totally loving this idea.

With this "Circle of Enlighten” the user can decide where he or she would like to learn from based on their experience. With no one group being first then the other.

[MastaYoda]

I like thisconcept of teacher. Do you go thru the tutorial to achieve teacher or dose an admin of sorts declair who the teachers are?

I'm thinking the teacher is based on two factors.
1) The user does this for a living and has plenty of experience or degree.
2) The users has gain enough knowledge in such a way that he helps others and obtains / becomes a teacher.

Has content been discussed as far as what you show to the beginers vs. the advanced? You are deffinatlly an asset to this community and I for one am enjoying your work! You rock YODA! :roll1:

I think with the new idea of "Circle of Enlightenment”. this would not be necessary. But we do need to decide what material goes with what groups. Or better yet, we need to group related material. :original:

[tone3jaguar]

Encouraging inexperienced people to do battle with the forces of darkness is a bad idea. Unless you can bring in a team of teachers from the light side of the ancient mystery schools the plan should be abandoned.

[MastaYoda]

Encouraging inexperienced people to do battle with the forces of darkness is a bad idea. Unless you can bring in a team of teachers from the light side of the ancient mystery schools the plan should be abandoned.

I think you got the wrong impression on this, not sure how but it is clear that this is to teach and learn about the higher self. It has nothing to do with fitting evil or forces of darkness.

[Malletzky]

So, instead of creating a level based method why not just create a circle "Circle of Enlightenment”. The circle will consists of points around it, such as a level but will not contain the hierarchies such as Levels, 1,2,3… and so on. It will work more like Groups. Each dot will represent a group. Each group will have its categories. Woooow, I’m totally loving this idea.

With this "Circle of Enlighten” the user can decide where he or she would like to learn from based on their experience. With no one group being first then the other.

I just got an idea: how about creating a pyramide-like 3D shape, where each dots are connected to each other. So the participants could choose where to start, where to go, without any restrictions of desired movements and without getting the feeling of being stocked somewhere on any hierarchical levels?

Just an idea :wink2:

with :wub2:
malletzky

[Myplanet2]

I think the thing to keep in mind on this project is that there are profound changes taking place right now, which are essentially rewriting how reality unfolds.

The two things we've been very used to, which are now getting a big shake up, are that we've been immersed in a reality which is based on duality or polarity, and it's been unfolding on a linear timeline, in a physically solid universe.

I'm sure we've all heard the terms "multi dimensional" and "non-linear" by now. What do these things mean? How do they relate to our "current" reality?

It's a real challenge still, to function multi dimensionally, while our linear 3-D world is still so solid and "there". But every day sees the weakening of our linear game, and a strengthening of our multi dimensional existence.

This will sound like complete nonsense if you are not yet experiencing it, and if you are, you know exactly what I'm talking about. When you start to see how this shift is taking place, and what the differences are, you can start to draw lines to otherwise inexplicable phenomena.

When waking up to our multi dimensional nature, it doesn't happen on any sort of linear time table, or in steps, or levels.

Every persons process will be different. Our higher selves are totally multi dimensional in character. So it's "now" can be any "when", past, present or future. I recently woke up one morning with a new "past". If you live in a linear stream, this is not possible. Past is past, and that's it. Well, no, it isn't. I've also got a short span of reversed time I carry around now. It's like a little multi dimensional bubble I'm in, approximately...now. I'm doing my best to describe some of these things, but words born in linear reality, don't adequately suffice in our new world.

How all of this plays into the project under discussion, is this awakening is not happening along any linear lines. It's happening as a shift from linear into multi dimensional existence. There are no levels. There is no 'next'. There is a smorgasbord of everything all at once, and our higher selves drop the little tidbits we next need directly into our paths in the form of all those amazing synchronicities we are all experiencing.

One thing I've noticed, is that in any areas where multi dimensionality is opening up, linear thinking, which is the speciality of our mundane minds, begin to feel very restrictive and even distasteful.

You may for example, think that organizing is necessary and desirable. Organizing is a linear reality inhabitant. The need to lay out steps of ever increasing depth or complexity falls into this same box.

I believe that those well on their way into this migration from 3rd to 4th and beyond will be, and actually are, no longer drawn to opportunities to play in the linear, where there is any choice in the matter.

This is actually our ace in the hole where the PTB are concerned. They are trying to herd us along these various paths, and we keep wandering off wherever we choose. Their control is breaking down for this very reason, and will continue to do so on an exponential curve. Every linear day shows control slipping away from their grasp, because the awakening multitudes are just choosing to do other more interesting things.

So, I'm not trying to rain on anybodies parade here, or to blunt anyones enthusiasm, but I don't want to see anyone set themselves up for a loss, either.

I don't see many people participating in this game. I could be wrong, and don't mind being wrong, but I think a structure of any sort for this ascension into higher realms, is just not possible. The chances of anyone setting up a structure which just happened to right for any other person, are astromonical.

We've got guidance which we can tap for cues and clues we need in order to be when and where our next Aha moment is available.

It's why this whole ground crew idea never got off the ground. It's attempting to organize within a linear framework, when that is exactly what we are graduating from.

Just look at all the completely impossible "accidental" discoveries you just happened to be in the right place at the right time in order to make.

That's how this is going down, and on a non-linear level, we all know that, and simply won't involve ourselves in organized, structured environments because they won't work as intended.

Several of us members here on Avalon, volunteered to create a library which contains everything we could find that we thought might be useful to have on hand if TSHTF, and the internet were to go down. It was a very "ground crew" oriented endeavour. We worked for months on it, and when we opened it to the membership, only a handful seemed to really find it to be of immediate use and necessity. By now, lots of members have downloaded lots of stuff from the library, so it wasn't a wasted effort, but I've certainly learned the lesson about trying to organize something like this thinking it's what will be needed and wanted by a group of beings making the shift from linear to non-linear reality.

Multi dimensional reality doesn't conform to linear logic of one thing following another, etc. It's a creative reality, of manifestation of thought, of energetically vibrating something into being. There is no past and future. Only now, with an unlimited number of variations of that now. And we simply shift around as need be.

What I think will be useful, is for Avalon to carry on as it's developed. A meeting place, where those waking up can drop a link to something they found useful, and then leave it for others to find, or not. A lot of us were drawn here, and it's one of the best places for people like us, who are on the leading edge of the changes, to compare notes and share discoveries, and give and receive support. Members come and stay as long as it's useful to do so, and then move on. Avalon reaches out of linear reality and into multi dimensional reality, and many people can find much here which will be useful to them.

But I don't think the process can be organized beyond what it already is. Many have opened projects and tried to gain support for them. It's almost proven to be impossible. Several ended up discouraged or even disgusted that so few would want to participate in their games.

Creative people don't need others to create games for them to play. They create their lives in a marvelous now, which happens to bend miraculously to their wants and desires. We create our own learning experiences and opportunities. We're all peeling ourselves off of linear time and space by whatever process suits us best.

I know this got pretty long, but I wanted to explain my observations on how organizing these types of group activities, may be nearly a thing of the "past".

And I hope this makes some sense. It does to me, but round words don't describe square concepts too well.

[tone3jaguar]

I think you got the wrong impression on this, not sure how but it is clear that this is to teach and learn about the higher self. It has nothing to do with fitting evil or forces of darkness.


I just went back. I had read it a few days ago and it talked about how the site idea was to build a team of spiritual warriors to defend the planet against the invasion of the dark forces. It has now been changed completely. The new idea is much more realistic.

[MastaYoda]

I'm sure we've all heard the terms "multi dimensional" and "non-linear" by now. What do these things mean? How do they relate to our "current" reality?

It's a real challenge still, to function multi dimensionally, while our linear 3-D world is still so solid and "there". But every day sees the weakening of our linear game, and a strengthening of our multi dimensional existence.

This will sound like complete nonsense if you are not yet experiencing it, and if you are, you know exactly what I'm talking about. When you start to see how this shift is taking place, and what the differences are, you can start to draw lines to otherwise inexplicable phenomena.


We have to remember that all people are different and some need a "push" or guide to see the light!. Wile other like your self completely understand and don't need any of this. This is more of a tool, whether is linear or non-linear, its a tool for people that are living on a linear way. The best way I can explain this is, We can not help people break-out of this linear way by just telling them how it is. We need to use tools they already understand in such a way that will help them break free.



So, I'm not trying to rain on anybodies parade here, or to blunt anyones enthusiasm, but I don't want to see anyone set themselves up for a loss, either.

You are not raining on anybodies parade or anything. The fact is the Kerry asked for some help from the Avalon members and so that is what we are providing.
As far as setting someone up for a loss, I'm not sure "What loss?" are you talking about. The fact that we are trying to think of more creative ways to help more people out is a loss? We need not to be afraid and work as one. as "fear is to hate, and hate is to hanger and hanger is to betray one self".

If you fear this is a waste of time, we ask of you to not participate. I'm doing what my hart is telling me, and that is to help everyone as much as possible to know the truth at all levels possible. Just like everyone else is helping out in providing info to related subjects of currents events that are happening around the world.

[lemon_sky88]

Exallent form yoda. I just wanted to add too this as well. I think people think that we think we have a magic idea thats gona magically wake people up. This is not our idea. I like how you refer to this as a tool. For example I hoped online and started watching film at vbs.tv and got interested in wordly issues rather than just local issues. For example they goto N. Korea and show u how crazy those guys are. Blah blah blah and so forth. This led me to see what was on you tube reguarding N. Korea I watched a few and then started to explore the snippits that you tube provides as related topics and saw the truth movement for 9.11 which then produced a project camelot clip i watched and then i was hooked. Ive watched most of the interviews and i have an open enough mind to accept the information and take it for what it means to me. This idea came up because we wanted a great easy reference when wanting to tell friends family and any other average sleeping joe about this wonderful experience. Its just an information archive set up in a very clever manor by our bud yoda. Not a hiarchy system or a warrior in training site. well i guess were all warriors in training batel just is not as our human linear minds conceve it to be eh? We need some positive vibes in here keep this coming we need both cudos and oposition to get this right thanks every one for all input! And keep rockin YODA!:trumpet:

[Myplanet2]

We have to remember that all people are different and some need a "push" or guide to see the light!. Wile other like your self completely understand and don't need any of this. This is more of a tool, whether is linear or non-linear, its a tool for people that are living on a linear way. The best way I can explain this is, We can not help people break-out of this linear way by just telling them how it is. We need to use tools they already understand in such a way that will help them break free.




You are not raining on anybodies parade or anything. The fact is the Kerry asked for some help from the Avalon members and so that is what we are providing.
As far as setting someone up for a loss, I'm not sure "What loss?" are you talking about. The fact that we are trying to think of more creative ways to help more people out is a loss? We need not to be afraid and work as one. as "fear is to hate, and hate is to hanger and hanger is to betray one self".

If you fear this is a waste of time, we ask of you to not participate. I'm doing what my hart is telling me, and that is to help everyone as much as possible to know the truth at all levels possible. Just like everyone else is helping out in providing info to related subjects of currents events that are happening around the world.

I understand what you are doing, and I support your efforts.

My point is really that we are all creative beings at heart, and as we rediscover that ability, we are creating our own opportunities to learn what we need to know, from the aspect of our higher selves, which is just as much us as the ones sitting here doing the typing, except that our higher selves are not positioned in time and space and so can place prompts anywhere/when that is useful to us, once we accept it's time (in our linear time existence) to move on to our more expansive playing field. So by the very nature of what's taking place right now, no one can do more than suggest that it's somehow possible to grow some new multi dimensional wings and that simply asking for opportunities to learn more, will start the ball rolling, at which time the higher self rolls up it's sleeves and plays personal teacher, dropping the exactly perfect lessons in our path in the form of all those wonderful synchronicities we all experience.

So I don't feel what you are doing is a waste of time, because if even one person has their higher self direct them to your tool, as being the exact right thing for them to encounter right now, then it will all have been worth while.

The loss I was referring to is potentially yours. The loss of going to all this effort, and then having very few participate. That can be discouraging, if you were hoping for a big response. I would simply like to point out that this is a predictable outcome on this venture, considering my "linear" rationale in my previous posts in this thread. Just keep in mind that you may get very few people playing your game, but that you should not be discouraged by this. You can't help others to wake up. Just look at any threads with "how do you help friends and family to wake up..." in the subject line, or that type of thing. This problem has been gone round and round on since Avalon opened in Sept 08. It just is what it is. A personal journey which necessarily will be exercised by oneself, by taking note of, or not, the prompts placed for us by our higher aspects, so we might wake up comfortably, instead of having to have cold water dumped on us at the last second of our collective snooze.

I wish you good luck on this. I hope I'm way off base here, and this is a raging success that wakes up millions. But just don't be disappointed if it doesn't work out that way. Waking people up is a bit like training a cat. Wait until it does something you like, and then applaud like crazy and provide lavish gifts to show appreciation. We're more like cats in our acceptance of help, than we are like dogs. And to stretch the cat/dog metaphor a bit further, our linear cat existence, is beginning to expand into more of a community oriented collectively minded Dog type multi dimensional "pack" existence. (no offence to Cat/dog lovers. neither is better - they are just different.)

[MastaYoda]

I wish you good luck on this. I hope I'm way off base here, and this is a raging success that wakes up millions. But just don't be disappointed if it doesn't work out that way. Waking people up is a bit like training a cat. Wait until it does something you like, and then applaud like crazy and provide lavish gifts to show appreciation.


Thank you, but I don't see this as a success or a loss or even as a game. I see it as just as another tool for others to use. If they chose or don't chose to use the tool is not a problem. It is up to you (the user) to decide, we can only lead the way. :)
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We need some positive vibes in here keep this coming we need both cudos and oposition to get this right thanks every one for all input! And keep rockin YODA!

I will try to have an updated Layout tonight.
I'll probably have the 5x7 postcard as well.
Also, I'll be registering the new site today. :thumb_yello:

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

I think the thing to keep in mind on this project is that there are profound changes taking place right now, which are essentially rewriting how reality unfolds......

...Just look at all the completely impossible "accidental" discoveries you just happened to be in the right place at the right time in order to make.....

...Multi dimensional reality doesn't conform to linear logic of one thing following another, etc. It's a creative reality, of manifestation of thought, of energetically vibrating something into being. There is no past and future. Only now, with an unlimited number of variations of that now. And we simply shift around as need be...

...And I hope this makes some sense. It does to me, but round words don't describe square concepts too well.

This ENTIRE post was absolutely amazing!! I am 100% in resonance with this, except for 1 thing.....

Creative people don't need others to create games for them to play

You're right, we don't NEED others' games, but there's quite a lot of us that still enjoy them IMMENSELY!!:banana:


I don't think think the intent here is to discourage the project from blasting forward, but merely to ENcourage a new paradigm of thought. Boiling this down into a new method of information delivery can be difficult, since we are all conditioned to think within this old paradigm. But seriously, if anyone can figure this out, it's Avaloners. So I too, throw my vote into the ring that we continue to brainstorm a NEW paradigm.

If the majority of contributors here wish to continue with the concept of "levels" or pyramidal structures, I support that as well, as anything can potentially be a learning experience. But I agree with MyPlanet that this is exactly what we are drifting away from, like it or not.

Perhaps there could be a random element introduced, so instead of learning information in a predesignated order, it could literally be developed in such a way so that random acts of the universe could determine what the next piece of information was. Imagine having a user inputing a random number or word, and then using the concept of ICHING or Tarot, they would be offered a new piece of information.

And all the information would have to be presented in such a way that the user would understand that it is simply information, and NOT the only single legitimate point of view.

I read in one of the Handbook for the New Paradigm books that understanding a view or perspective on a subject is like imagining a circle around a dot.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/Circle_With_Dot.JPG
One person's belief or perspective exists at one point in the radius of that circle. To truly understand the subject, one must know as many perspectives on the given subject (dot in the middle) so as to literally see it from all perspectives (360 degrees around the point). Perhaps offering multiple explanations on a subject and allowing the user to decide for themselves which one resonates closest within themselves is a valid approach.


I'm not convinced this is the solution either, just trying to help brainstorm here.

So, Yoda, what is the domain name you are purchasing for this concept?

[lemon_sky88]

Im really not shur how we would go about that, but i am loving the idea of leaving it up to "the universe" or a random generation of where to go next. or what to explore next. Its kind of like the information finds you. This sounds like something that could be developed and maybe should be, i would encourage it. I really like the concept that kerry, (who kind of gave us the starting point) and the rest of us who are imputting on this have come up with as well. It is correct that there is a "structure" set around the way the content of the site would be relesed to a new user. The structure is a simple guide being build to lift them off the ground so to speak. This is ment to spark curiosity and influence change. Just simply to get them thinking in a diffrent direction other than the norm. Us referencing this site to someone who checks it out could be that someone aha moment persay. And then where there life takes them is their journey. I think the thing that keeps coming up is that maybe its thought were trying to build a "one stop shop" to total wakeup/ enlightenment... Not the case, we want to help others simply see this hidden path that weve found by making an easy access point.

Caint wait to see it Yoda. Im amazed at how quickly you are throughin this togeter kudos!.:thumb_yello:

[iainl140285]

http://www.cuttingedge.org/Circle_With_Dot.JPG
One person's belief or perspective exists at one point in the radius of that circle. To truly understand the subject, one must know as many perspectives on the given subject (dot in the middle) so as to literally see it from all perspectives (360 degrees around the point). Perhaps offering multiple explanations on a subject and allowing the user to decide for themselves which one resonates closest within themselves is a valid approach.



Fantastic CV:thumb_yello:
We need 360 degrees of vision/perception to make an informed decision. As difficult as it is, we must allow our minds to encompase the whole. Things become much clearer then :original:

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

...I think the thing that keeps coming up is that maybe its thought were trying to build a "one stop shop" to total wakeup/ enlightenment... Not the case, we want to help others simply see this hidden path that weve found by making an easy access point.

well, several have chimed in on this, and I won't pretend to speak for them, but I can guess that their concerns are the same as mine...

I dont think ANYONE has thought that this would be the "one stop shop" to total wakeup/ enlightenment, but the fundamental difference here is the theory that the way we engage users would be in accordance with the emerging consciousness. Even if it's just to pry the lid open a tiny bit and allow them to see infomation, but also in a NEW CONTEXT. I think its important to realize that there are PLENTY of websites that deliver this information, and more are emerging every day. Maybe instead of creating more of the same, we jump ahead a little bit and ENVISION something new and innovative...deliver information BUT in a way that doesnt reinforce the very systems we are (hopefully) trying to dissolve. This requires a new approach.

I agree, this is NOT necessarily an easy task. But it could well be exponentially valuable, especially in the "multidimensional" context that MyPlanet2 mentioned.

Look , we were all invited to participate. It appears that the concept is moving forward with a certain momentum regardless of input and I don't think anyone here really wants to resist that momentum. I just think some of us were hoping to infuse some of our ideas along the way. Any forward motion is beautiful. Whatever will be will be. No matter WHAT it is, this will no doubt be another valuable expression of what we all here want to become. So much respect to you all.

Good Luck, and let me know if you need any Interactive Flash Development done.

CV

ps: Thanks Ian! I just noticed the same symbol got posted in the X-Men thread. The Universe is whispering.:hypo:

[MastaYoda]

Good Luck, and let me know if you need any Interactive Flash Development done.

CV

ps: Thanks Ian! I just noticed the same symbol got posted in the X-Men thread. The Universe is whispering.:hypo:

Yes, Do you know AS3? and Xml? I'm thinking of the 'Circle' would be interactive and all of the dots/points if any would need a name. So I'm thinking of using and XML sheet to keep flash file updated.
..any one?

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

Yes, Do you know AS3? and Xml?

yes and yes. but honestly, if you are looking for someone to just quickly build something for you without comment, Im probably not your guy. I don't feel like I fully understand the concept yet.

[MastaYoda]

yes and yes. but honestly, if you are looking for someone to just quickly build something for you without comment, Im probably not your guy. I don't feel like I fully understand the concept yet.

No problem. I will have a new layout / image for everyone to see. Probably gets a better picture across. Also, I know flash and AS2 and some xml integration. But I'm more of a Designer then a developer. I'll be more then glad to put the Flash file together for you and all you have to do is the coding to make it work. :)

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

But I'm more of a Designer then a developer. I'll be more then glad to put the Flash file together for you and all you have to do is the coding to make it work. :)

Me too. This is why I think I might not be the best fit for what you seem to be looking for. I'm not the delegatory type. I'm much more interested in co-creation. So Why dont you just go with XML and AS2, you'll have a much more ubiquitous platform, no upgrades, etc.? AS3 takes away all the artistic nuances and reduces everything to code. Its not my favorite language. Takes all the fun out of Flash.

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

how about this... you make a wireframe. For those who don't know what a wireframe is, is basically a mockup of the site with JUST the content and no graphics. This allows everyone to see the information flow and the idea without getting too caught up in the graphics initially. Then once that is mutually agreed upon, then move to the next stage, the visual look and feel, allowing input from anyone who wants to be involved. Then once everyone is in agreement and equally excited about the concept, you will have created enough excitement and mutual personal investment through the process that everyone involved will volunteer their time to see it through.:original:

[Carmen]

I haven't read everything posted here, but I get the gist of what you people are creating, and I like the idea.

A few comments on the issue of heirachy. I think that there are definite 'levels' to spiritual growth and that that to me is a truth. I also like the idea of yoda's of a circle because the levels can be thought of in terms of 'expansion' 'extention' into the next level.

For many years I have tested myself in a spiritual way and have experienced expanding or going into another level. Everything changes, and the new level is different and extends into and includes the other levels (not necessarily 'lower')

I have a few key books that I read and re-read. When I move (or expand) in consciousness I understand at a new level and there is info I'd never noticed before!

Another good example I use to explain moving to a new level is of 'climbing the hill, climbing out of the valley, and looking down on the activities below. Watching the street fighting! But not being part of it. Observing. Images convey so much more than words and are multi-dimensional.

I love all the ideas here, and I myself would enjoy a sort of 'testing' of spirit to see where I was at. As someone else has stated, ones 'inner self' reveals where we are at, but it would be fun to try this sort of thing on the forum

When a person is at a certain level they cannot 'see' the next level at all. They cannot even form the questions that relate to a higher level. Those beings at more expanded levels can 'see' all of the lower levels and none of the ones that they are yet to expand into. Spiritual growth is ongoing and ones "inner Self" knows when the person is ready to move. Nobody gets to go to where they have not passed the 'tests' to go. Forget equality, we only get what we deserve. We have equal "potential" to be or do anything, and advanced beings have always tried to help us in our evolution on this planet.

Keep up the good work guys. I am very interested in what you are proposing.

Love and Light

Carmen

[lemon_sky88]

Cymatic Veilbegone: I Hope ther was no offence taken as to my post. I am just trying to make shur that I come across in a clear manor and am not meaning to come across as blunt.

This project has a momentum which I for one do not want to see lost. I am very optomistic and have great prospect for ideas in general, the more the marier. Anything to express us and be free. Take a fresh breath and enjoy the day.weve gotten a few "this may not be such a good idea" vibes. I just have yet to make sence of why this is not a good idea. So i want to inject my positive input. It seems that theres a few comment reguarding hiarchy and structure and I am simply trying to clear up the fact that yes there is some what of a structure to it but we are dealing with people who have been force fed structure all their lives. we are looking for something marketable and interesting to connect to normal folk. not just avalonians. The goal is to have the average joe, to busy with a job to look at the internet in such a mentally expanding way and introduce them to this topic or information. Please work with us and in-ject ur ideas, we welcome them. If you dont get the concept so well, please work with us to understand and mold with your touch as well. we are receptive Yoda is da man. We are in this together and this is a steping stone. and there are many in a single path and many paths along the way. Im just asking for open minds and positive attitudes to keep this revolution a rollin. Keep injesting what ever, we want to hear it all. energy is energy and let this bolder roll! :tongue2: Have a ball and keep this up Im lovein u all by the way and couldnt be more proud to be apart of this community.

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

Cymatic Veilbegone: I Hope ther was no offence taken as to my post. I am just trying to make shur that I come across in a clear manor and am not meaning to come across as blunt.

This project has a momentum which I for one do not want to see lost. I am very optomistic and have great prospect for ideas in general, the more the marier. Anything to express us and be free. Take a fresh breath and enjoy the day.weve gotten a few "this may not be such a good idea" vibes. I just have yet to make sence of why this is not a good idea. So i want to inject my positive input. It seems that theres a few comment reguarding hiarchy and structure and I am simply trying to clear up the fact that yes there is some what of a structure to it but we are dealing with people who have been force fed structure all their lives. we are looking for something marketable and interesting to connect to normal folk. not just avalonians. The goal is to have the average joe, to busy with a job to look at the internet in such a mentally expanding way and introduce them to this topic or information. Please work with us and in-ject ur ideas, we welcome them. If you dont get the concept so well, please work with us to understand and mold with your touch as well. we are receptive Yoda is da man. We are in this together and this is a steping stone. and there are many in a single path and many paths along the way. Im just asking for open minds and positive attitudes to keep this revolution a rollin. Keep injesting what ever, we want to hear it all. energy is energy and let this bolder roll! :tongue2: Have a ball and keep this up Im lovein u all by the way and couldnt be more proud to be apart of this community.

Absolutely no offense taken. Sounds great! I am excited to see what you come up with, and will be happy to offer more input/help when you have this more sussed out.:original:

Respect, CV

[MastaYoda]

SAMPLE 5 x 7 POSTCARD / FLYER

http://www.erickstudios.com/projectcamelot/5x7_Project_Camelot_sd1.jpg


So here is one side of the flyer. I think is the message is pretty clear. don't you agree?

Note: I plan to support a few websites with this Idea. Like Project Avalon, The Zeitgeist Movement, The Show Podcast, Veritas Show.. and a few others.

[MastaYoda]

Other Side:


http://www.erickstudios.com/projectcamelot/5x7_Project_Camelot_sd2.jpg

Not sure if this is as clear of a message then the first one. Any Ideas?

[lemon_sky88]

I think this is perfect. Very simple and just braises the curiosity. Just enough to say what the hell is this all about. I also like the idea of doing this for multiple movements. Im totally into the 9/11 truth movement. I love the zeitguiest thing. What ever get people to think is what im lookin for. I really like what youve come up with. Great stuff YODA!

[MastaYoda]

If ask what image comes to mind with the word “Massive” that has impacted your life? What do you get?

[Myplanet2]

Other Side:


http://www.erickstudios.com/projectcamelot/5x7_Project_Camelot_sd2.jpg

Not sure if this is as clear of a message then the first one. Any Ideas?

I'm not sure what that means. Are you asking how deep down the rabbit hole they want to go?

[Malletzky]

If ask what image comes to mind with the word “Massive” that has impacted your life? What do you get?

the sudden massive feeling I got few years ago that we're eternal beings...with the image of white pulsing light, just as my avatar

massive certainity, that nothing is impossible, if we just open our minds..with the image of happy humans just flying around and do nothing but learn, learn learn...learn notning more but the divine lessons.

[MastaYoda]

I'm not sure what that means. Are you asking how deep down the rabbit hole they want to go?

Just as I thought. I'm not sure everyone has seen the movie "The Matrix" so this is hard to under stand.

I think we need to rephrase the question. Something like:

1. "How well do you think you know the truth? Show me | Keep dreaming"
2. "What pill heals you? Prayers | Medicine"
3. "Which side are you on? Toxic | Poison"
4. "What side are you on? AM | PM" (I dig this one!)
5. "New Virus....." awake | sleep"

Well, any more Ideas? or can I get Vote?
:original:

[MastaYoda]

I got it:

http://www.erickstudios.com/projectcamelot/5x7_Project_Camelot_sd2a.jpg

So..?

[MastaYoda]

Sample LINK:

http://www.massiveawareness.com/jeditest/
(Note: This is only a DEMO, if you wish to start over, just refresh the page)

1. No Levels, Just categories.(represented by stars)
2. Categories will have Sub-categories that are related. One sample category can include PSI, ESP,..or so. List of sub cat's are shown when you mouse over a cat(star)
3. Ones you select sub-cat(PSI), you will be taken to all the material related to that sub-category.

So, visually their is no level structure. But technically its a 3 step process. :original:

[lemon_sky88]

Very cool, the site layout is just down right crative... im lovin it. The way the info is presented is a little plain tho. It needs to say open me some how and it just dosent do it for me by saying psi... what is psi..Ill have you a subjestion in the mornin when im feeling a bit more creative. I just want to make shur to keep attention. This is blowin me away tho as far as layout. Nice work Yoda. :lightsabre:

[Carmen]

Please keep the font large enough for us older ones, Ta

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

I got it:

http://www.erickstudios.com/projectcamelot/5x7_Project_Camelot_sd2a.jpg

So..?

what's an Aganda? Why would I have to be on one? And what does 21 have to do with an Aganda? Do I really have "my own" Aganda? If so, how did I get it?

I'm confused.

[manticore]

SAMPLE 5 x 7 POSTCARD / FLYER

http://www.erickstudios.com/projectcamelot/5x7_Project_Camelot_sd1.jpg


So here is one side of the flyer. I think is the message is pretty clear. don't you agree?

Note: I plan to support a few websites with this Idea. Like Project Avalon, The Zeitgeist Movement, The Show Podcast, Veritas Show.. and a few others.
Dear MastaYoda,

Thank you for including Veritas in your thoughts. It is much appreciated. I also support all these movements, including Avalon.

All my best,

Mel

[MastaYoda]

what's an Aganda? Why would I have to be on one? And what does 21 have to do with an Aganda? Do I really have "my own" Aganda? If so, how did I get it?

I'm confused.

Wooow, sorry. Not sure how I missed that one. Its "Agenda" and not Aganda. I'm sorry. I will get the fix. I'm sure you know about Agenda 21. And sorry for the miss spelling.

[MastaYoda]

Dear MastaYoda,

Thank you for including Veritas in your thoughts. It is much appreciated. I also support all these movements, including Avalon.

All my best,

Mel

Yes, I love the show. I make sure to listen to it every Friday evening. Also, I'm working real hard in implementing the new website that will have all this files for download so everyone can link to them.

:original:

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

Wooow, sorry. Not sure how I missed that one. Its "Agenda" and not Aganda. I'm sorry. I will get the fix. I'm sure you know about Agenda 21. And sorry for the miss spelling.

No, I'M sorry. I have not heard of Agenda 21 , what is it? Is it like Codex Alimentarius?

[MastaYoda]

No, I'M sorry. I have not heard of Agenda 21 , what is it? Is it like Codex Alimentarius?


Agenda 21 is an book / manuel in which US government works by. It list some of the things they wish to do us! Like De-population..and other such things. Here is a link to a forum "Agenda 21" (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13876)

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

Ok I've heard of this before, but didnt remember that it was called Agenda 21. Thanks Yoda, sorry for asking so many questions...all I can say is...

holy crapola.:shocked:

[MastaYoda]

Hello everyone,

In spite of all the motivation, Its finally here!

Massive Awareness.com where you will be able to download Wallpapers and flayers.

The New Forum post is here: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14591&highlight=Calling+Massive+Awareness

Thanks