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Brinty
06-07-2009, 09:58 PM
These clips of actual nuclear bomb tests in the Pacific Ocean and desert areas of Australia and USA, give a graphic view of the devastation that is almost instantaneous.

How can we prepare to survive the energy of something as enormous as these images portray?

Pray to God it can be avoided - if we sincerely believe it can be avoided, let's all put our hearts and minds to the task and help save the human race.

Only we can do this - the ETs can't physically interfere, they can only advise.

We should heed what we are being told.

Survival is in our hands and only in our hands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmWBY283o5s

Dantheman62
06-08-2009, 12:28 AM
Yeah it's really sick to think that we have used these things. It's like looking just west of area 51 in Nevada. Hundreds of pot holes from bomb testing, almost gives me that weird kind of sick feeling just looking at it!

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.110913,-116.04646&z=12&t=h&hl=en

orthodoxymoron
06-08-2009, 12:52 AM
I have been haunted by the threat of nuclear war my whole life. I remember watching 'On the Beach' as a child. I remember reading the book 'When War Comes' in grade school. I remember speaking with Carol Rosin about nuclear war at a Whole Life Expo. I think about it almost every day. Somehow...this nightmare needs to end. The only way one can really be happy...is to live in a dreamworld.

What do you think about the view that there is evidence of ancient nuclear warfare? You know...vitrification and craters. What about the surface of the moon? Is it really a cratered battle spaceship? Some say that a very real Star Wars has been going on for a very long time.

What do you think about the theory that the U.S. received critical nuclear materials...and even possibly completed nuclear bombs...from the NAZIs? Some say that the bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were pre-placed. Who knows?

The country which sanctimoniously cracks down on weapons of mass destruction worldwide...has a vast nuclear arsenal which could probably end all non DUMB(pun intended) life on this planet. The smoking gun is TWO mushroom clouds.

I've recently begun thinking that malevolent ETs gave us nuclear weapons so we would build a vast arsenal for THEM...and exterminate ourselves...giving them OUR Earth...to be used as a staging area for universal conquest. Just speculation, mind you.

My proposed solution...is that throughout the universe...Constructive Competition, Positive Response Ability, and Constitutional Responsible Freedom...be the universal modus operandi. I'm sensing unimaginable atrocities, huge enslavements and exterminations, etc, etc...going back billions, and perhaps trillions, of years. The gods may have been angry further back than anyone can remember. The universal race-wars may make our black/white problems seem insignificant. I'm sensing a very screwed-up universe. Once more...this is just speculation.

Brinty
06-08-2009, 01:13 AM
I'm aware that you can't believe everything that scientists tell us.To give them the benefit of the doubt, in their eyes, if they can't see it, hold it, and measure it, it doesn't exist. Many of them look into microscopes so wouldn't see a UFO if it landed in their parking lot and zapped their cars. The rest of them look through telescopes that are focused on deep space so they wouldn't see that UFO either.

Okay, for centuries of meteorites bombarding earth, scientists cast scorn on anybody who claimed that stones fell from the sky. It was only in the early 1800s when scientists attending a seminar in France, were treated to a spectacular display of meteorites, that they acknowledged that they did exist.

Scientists tell us that the moon has been in its current position for millions of years with one face always directed towards earth with a slight wobble. It's interesting that some of the biggest craters on the moon are on the side facing us.

I would sooner believe Zecharia Sitchin, than accept everything that scientists tell me.

dolphin
06-08-2009, 03:08 AM
on Coast to Coast AM - May 12 2009 - World War III with Joel Skousen Part 8/8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZp2hq_uZJ8&feature=related

joel skousen believes there will be nuclear war on usa soil very soon by russia.
he believes the financial crisis is just a precursor and the war on us soil will be the excuse to "start over again" so as not to pay the national debt.

Lorien
06-08-2009, 03:39 AM
The problem I have with Nuclear War is the fact that anyone EVER thinks that this is a necessary and warranted action. This kind of destruction is NEVER an answer to anything. And I'm sorry, but just because someone else has them, does not give other people the right to have them and possibly use them. Personally I think it would be better to just take it, and get wiped out, than to use that same evil power on another country in "defense" and kill thousands or millions of innocent people.

orthodoxymoron
06-08-2009, 03:50 AM
Britny, I don't know how much of Sitchin to believe...but I think that he is on the right track. Lloyd Pye thinks so. But I don't know how much of Pye to believe. Scientists have been kept so busy and compartmentalized that they haven't been able to see the forrest for the trees. Same thing for the religious people. Is this all by design? I think that the internet...and people researching on their own...is changing EVERYTHING. This may be a rocky transition...so hang on!

You are so right, Lorien...it's a no-win situation. Mutually Assured Destruction is MAD. I just wish that there was a way to simultaneously disable all nuclear weapons...permanently. I'm all for countries competing with each other constructively in business, sports, the arts, etc...but once you start hurting and killing people...everything breaks down really fast. We are playing with some very, very hot fire.

Lorien
06-08-2009, 03:54 AM
I'm often reminded of the excellent 80's movie "War Games" with Matthew Broderick where he has to teach the computer that controls the Nuclear Weapons that Thermo-Nuclear War is a no win situation, and therefore pointless to even enter into the scenario.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo

Brinty
06-08-2009, 04:16 AM
One thing would be for sure after a nuclear war - if one does occur, those who survived and started rebuilding, would have no part of any idea of using nuclear weapons again.

While the possession of nuclear weapons may deter the enemy from using them in a first strike, it only takes a fanatic with a grudge to light the fuse that could send us all into the next dimension.

The ETs have demonstrated that they can deactivate nuclear missiles. I feel that if the safety of planet earth was under threat, they would not hesitate to do the same again on a big scale. They value the continued existence of the earth but not necessarily of humans.

orthodoxymoron
06-08-2009, 05:22 AM
I don't think that the computer factored in ETs. The only winners in a nuclear war are the malevolent ETs. The elites who go into the DUMBs will be food.
Here's a very sad movie('On the Beach' - 20 parts): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv_OJBBaF48&feature=PlayList&p=01DCD7FC356AF96F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19
All world leaders should watch this movie every damn day.