A gypsy's curse

[Swanny]

Can a gypsy really put a curse on someone?
And if so can it be removed??
Here's my story, when I was about 19 on a sunny day at the coast with my girlfriend at the time we came across a gypsy woman selling pegs or something, I didn't want to buy any and must have been a bit cheeky (wouldn't have been nasty as I'm not like that) to her as she cursed me saying "You'll never marry."
Well that was 20 odd years ago and I never have married, could it be because of her curse??

:sneaky2:

I would actually like to get married one day :snog:

[Anchor]

Yes and no.

A "gypsy-curse" is simply a stylised form of focussed intent with the aim of manifesting harm in the form of some unwanted outcome.

Since it is clearly a free-will infringement to do such things (unless you for some reason agreed!) then it is a dangerous thing to attempt. A positively polarised (service to others oriented) person would never do this. The Gypsy is responsible and ultimately karmically accountable for thier actions.

If you believe in the power of a curse, then you yourself are unwittingly adding to its power since you are focussing on the outcome of the curse.

The fact that you even ask the question means that you have some doubts and therefore have in someway been subconciously been affected by this - which means the curse has had some effect.

Swanny, this is a learning opportunity.

I think you know what needs to be done :)

All shadows are dispelled by light.

A..

[rhythm]

think about it this way

you dont need to get married do you

just live with a lady

who needs to get married enyway ...

all thie is stuff n nonsence

dear swanstar

superstisious clap trap

realy . be the love and trust only in that

what is it it that you doubt ?

what you belive tho... you can make a reality :thumbdown:

that is the only power of a curse

in itself it has NO power only what you give it hmmmmmmmm....:wub2:

[tone3jaguar]

A curse is simply a ritual form of focussed intent with the aim of manifesting harm in the form of some unwanted outcome.


No, that is a spell. A curse is when higher dimensional entities are assigned to you to screw up your timeline for the rest of your life and all of your life times to come.

Swanny, I have dealt with a curse before and the one thing I can tell you about them is that they rely completely on their covert nature. An actual highly trained individual from some form of the negative mystery schools weather it is gypsy or not, is not going to tell you what they are doing. If they have to tell you then they are playing psychological games with you and are full of it. Curses are advanced level stuff and only the people with the secret ancient knowledge from long ago can do them.

Black magic practitioners do break the rules from time to time. However, in doing so they are risking huge backlash karma on themselves.

[sleepingnomore]

Someone once told me the best way to not be bothered by demons was not to believe in them. I think it's the same principle with curses, you can actually manifest them with your fear.

[14 Chakras]

My understanding is, that almost anyone can send bad energy your way, including a curse or whatnot. It comes down to your own vibration and illusions as to whether the negative energy / entity will stick or not. The higher you come consciously, and the more illusions you surrender, the less effective any negative energy sent your way is going to be at tripping you up.

That being said, I have found personally that the strongest protection against negative energy is forming a relationship with Archangel Michael and calling to him to cut you lose from any and all dark forces and energy that is interfering with you and protect you from any that could. There's nothing more powerful you can do than forming a relationship with this cosmic being who is the protector of humanity (within their own free will).

If you are serious about breaking away from any negative energy that is bothering you, I personally suggest doing this rosary to Archangel Michael a few times (as in a few times over a period of time, like a week, or a month etc.):

http://www.mothermarysgarden.com/J_ADVROS/ZADVROSPDF/9Michael10.pdf

I found it worked very well for me and the purpose of it is not only to help you and protect your energy field, but also to help the world and allow Archangel Michael to work closer in the world and clear up the baddies who are working against the evolution of mankind.

:lightsabre:

[tone3jaguar]

Someone once told me the best way to not be bothered by demons was not to believe in them. I think it's the same principle with curses, you can actually manifest them with your fear.


Who ever told you that never met a demon, and never had a curse put on them. I did not believe in curses when I was young. That did not stop someone from putting one on me that I did not even know was there until 15 years later in a huge ah ha moment. Curses are rare, they are direct interfearance from the higher dimensions. This is why they hardly ever try them. If they do something like this to an innocent like I was, then they risk getting their asses handed to them down the road by the target if they ever break free from it. Trust me, I was allowed to do way more damage to their metaphysical infrastructure than most individuals that have done battle with the kinds of people who would wield such a thing as a curse. I crippled them.

All of that being said, I chose to have the curse put on me before I was incarnated for the steep learning curve that it would provide or else it would not have happened.

[Anchor]

tone3jaguar: I conceed your definition is correct.

I was however referring to the common perception of a "gypsy-curse", normally depicted as some old hag, mouthing malintent. Which, I agree is not really the same thing as a full-on curse. Eitherway, I have ammended my post with a more correct usage.

Thanks

curse noun (plural curs·es)

Definition:
1. swearword: a swearword, obscenity, or blasphemous oath
2. evil prayer: a malevolent appeal to a supernatural being for harm to come to somebody or something, or the harm that is thought to result from this
3. source of harm: a cause of unhappiness or harm the curse of poverty
4. menstruation: menstruation or a menstrual period ( dated slang )
5. christianity history religious ban: an ecclesiastical pronouncement of censure or excommunication

interjection curs·es
Definition:
used as oath: used to express irritation or annoyance

verb (past and past participle cursed, present participle curs·ing, 3rd person present singular curs·es)
Definition:
1. transitive and intransitive verb swear: to utter swearwords or obscenities at somebody
2. transitive verb wish evil on somebody: to appeal malevolently to a supernatural being for harm to come to somebody or something

[Unified Serenity]

She is probably of the community that believes in the "Evil Eye". For them, it is to look upon someone with evil intent. They wear talisman's to ward off the "evil eye".

You do strip power from something by not believing in it, but you wont make an entity cease to exist just because you don't believe in it. I agree that you have given this "curse" power just by the question you asked. If you really want to have a positive relationship and marriage I suggest you envision yourself surrounded by light, take a salt bath, let go of any ill intents you have ever done, offer peace to all, and let go of all entanglements upon you, your spirit, mind and body and see them going down the drain after you rise from the water and pull the plug in the tub.

Just a lil exercise that often works wonders if done in faith and simple meditation.

[TraineeHuman]

Even if that gypsy was powerful, it sounds like her response was very overblown, considering that you were just maybe doing something like making a little noise that upset her concentration for a moment, or whatever it was you did that annoyed her. (Maybe the gypsy was just jealous of your looks or something, Swanny?) So I would question how powerful such a curse could be. That would strongly tend to suggest that her curse doesn't have much to do with your current lack of a life partner. Because the curse was an exaggerated thing to do, most of it would have bounced right back onto the gypsy and not you. If I hand you a bomb with a burning fuse and you casually say: "Not really, thanks" and hand it back, then I'm left holding that bomb, without the time to find anybody else to hand it to. I mean, I take it the gypsy didn't have a sample of your hair or anything like that for her to spend time trying to make her curse stick.

In my experience everybody subconsciously puts curses on others at some stage. Far more often than people generally realise. Whenever somebody learns to be telepathic (i.e., unlearns not being so), they're initially amazed by how much subsconscious negativity and junk they discover most people's minds keep spewing out. Again, that's another reason not to be as concerned as it seems you currently are.

Finally, I know that the effects of even the most powerful black magician's curses can be overcome by healing yourself of their effects every day.

[Swanny]

Thx I will do all that has been said here. From now on that silly old gypo no longer has power over my life :original:

[rhythm]

Thx I will do all that has been said here. From now on that silly old gypo no longer has power over my life :original:



good on yer swan i new you were a real STAR......:thumb_yello:

[lawlessline]

A curse or a Sort in french is a gemotric energy that changes your interaction with the part of your personality or energy exchange that you have with the rest of the world. Then when you apply the normal actions to that part of your life, the reverse happens or a distortion to the reality of the energy that is presented to the reciever. This geomettric form can be apply to many parts of your life, Money personal relationships. Work, health etc. The person doing the curse may not totally understand what they are doing or even know the have done it.

If the source is from a trained source then negociation is the only way to lift such a thing, due to the fact that the curse only works, as said before, with the participation of the person. This then give srise to the question that what you are recieving can come partly from your own doing.
The use of the karmic will is where the curse is place.

To take off the thing you will need to know what form it takes and and then which is the best way of dealing with it. The majority of curses I have dealt with comes through the second form that I just described. Then you will find something like a book of accounts. It is a case of closing the account and each taking their part of the book so the filter or geometric shape is removed and you return to a natural state of interaction.

Give me a shout if you want to do something on the skype with it tom.lawless is the user name.

Hows life in Wiltshire. from the new forest just down the road. but now in France. Say hello to the old place for me.:original:

[tone3jaguar]

A curse or a Sort in french is a gemotric energy that changes your interaction with the part of your personality or energy exchange that you have with the rest of the world. Then when you apply the normal actions to that part of your life, the reverse happens or a distortion to the reality of the energy that is presented to the reciever. This geomettric form can be apply to many parts of your life, Money personal relationships. Work, health etc. The person doing the curse may not totally understand what they are doing or even know the have done it.

If the source is from a trained source then negociation is the only way to lift such a thing, due to the fact that the curse only works, as said before, with the participation of the person. This then give srise to the question that what you are recieving can come partly from your own doing.
The use of the karmic will is where the curse is place.

To take off the thing you will need to know what form it takes and and then which is the best way of dealing with it. The majority of curses I have dealt with comes through the second form that I just described. Then you will find something like a book of accounts. It is a case of closing the account and each taking their part of the book so the filter or geometric shape is removed and you return to a natural state of interaction.

Give me a shout if you want to do something on the skype with it tom.lawless is the user name.

Hows life in Wiltshire. from the new forest just down the road. but now in France. Say hello to the old place for me.:original:



Interesting perspective, resonates with the truth. I may have very well had some inverting geometry attached to my Merkeba during my curse. Exactly what you described was taking place. The law of attraction worked oppisite on me the entire time. In addition to the geometry was also a manipulation the part of the DNA that is responsible for the programming of your fate. And layered on top of this where heavily veiled lower 6th density off world entities that had some sort of control structure attached to me.

I also agree that the curse is part of an individuals Karma if they have a curse. If you are behind in your lifetimes in learning spiritual lessons like I was then the curse serves the purpose of teaching you spiritual lessons from the open end of a fire hose.

I still do not think that Swanny has any spell or curse on him from the "Gypsy". I think the Gypsy was a great big faker putting on a show so others would buy her garbage. What better way to motivate buyers than to scare the **** out of them.

[tone3jaguar]

Lawlessline!!!!

Holy **** you just help me find the last layer of the curse cake that I had on me for all of those years. I had reversed all the other aspects of it, but I did not know to ask about the geometry. I just checked with the pendulum and the inverting geometry was still there!!!!!!!!!!!

I just had it removed by my guides. They all ways wait around for me to figure stuff out before they do anything about it. I guess that is how I learn.

This should be very interesting to see how my intention begins to function now. I knew something still was not quite right. Thanks!!!!!!!!

[Unified Serenity]

A curse or a Sort in french is a gemotric energy that changes your interaction with the part of your personality or energy exchange that you have with the rest of the world. Then when you apply the normal actions to that part of your life, the reverse happens or a distortion to the reality of the energy that is presented to the reciever. This geomettric form can be apply to many parts of your life, Money personal relationships. Work, health etc. The person doing the curse may not totally understand what they are doing or even know the have done it.

If the source is from a trained source then negociation is the only way to lift such a thing, due to the fact that the curse only works, as said before, with the participation of the person. This then give srise to the question that what you are recieving can come partly from your own doing.
The use of the karmic will is where the curse is place.

To take off the thing you will need to know what form it takes and and then which is the best way of dealing with it. The majority of curses I have dealt with comes through the second form that I just described. Then you will find something like a book of accounts. It is a case of closing the account and each taking their part of the book so the filter or geometric shape is removed and you return to a natural state of interaction.

Give me a shout if you want to do something on the skype with it tom.lawless is the user name.

Hows life in Wiltshire. from the new forest just down the road. but now in France. Say hello to the old place for me.:original:

Ok, if someone has a curse on them from second method you mentioned, what is the way to remove that? What if the person with the curse hold no ill will towards the person who did have great ill will towards them and possibly still does?

How does one tell what geometric shape has interfered with them and their dna or energy? I have been fighting something for nearly 5 years and I have no energy tags on me, but I could sense something was off in a deep level. I have grown greatly in understanding universal love and non-judgmental living over these past five years. I've been talking to my higher self asking for my DNA to correct itself and turn on any parts dormat that need to be "on". I'm not hindered in astral work in any degree, but as I said, I have struggled in another area that just seemed so stagnant and without reason for being so.

I'd like your take on how to keep these curses from flying one's way because someone gets a burr under their "butt" and hates you.

I do practice advanced shielding btw, and this person involved had a very strong tie to me, so I'm doubtful my shielding worked with them, but others do not cause me concern. Just looking for further info on how you see this work.

Thanks

[14 Chakras]

Unified, at least worth considering getting help from Archangel Michael who is more than capable of cutting you free from whatever negativity is in your energy field, as long as you are willing to surrender it.

:lightsabre:

[sleepingnomore]

Surrender is the key!:winksmiley02:

[Unified Serenity]

Unified, at least worth considering getting help from Archangel Michael who is more than capable of cutting you free from whatever negativity is in your energy field, as long as you are willing to surrender it.

:lightsabre:

I mean no disrespect Chakras, but I am not the most trusting of any religious systems these days. I have studied the bible in it's original languages for years, was a "sold out" christian at one time, but through keeping an open heart and mind have come to some realizations at how the church was corrupted and that there is a good likelihood that all "religions" are just part of the matrix designed to keep us plugged in and not evolve or move on to be who we are truly supposed to be. I will think, meditate upon, and consider what you have said, but I am not that thrilled with the whole "Angel" thing at this time. I do believe in enlightened beings and those who help us, I'm just not sure about the hierarchy of Angels anymore.

[THE eXchanger]

ask/ask/ask
for a complete undo
in between time; and; in between space
and, anywhere, you do NOT know where to ask for it

anything that is NOT in 100% alignment
with your missons, purposes, and, tasks

it all must go !!!

will it to be, so, it will be

so, be it, and, it is so
(repeat 3 times)

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

SEE IT, FEEL IT, SENSE IT

AND, know IT IS so !!!

[Unified Serenity]

ask/ask/ask
for a complete undo
in between time; and; in between space
and, anywhere, you do NOT know where to ask for it

anything that is NOT in 100% alignment
with your missons, purposes, and, tasks

it all must go !!!

will it to be, so, it will be

so, be it, and, it is so
(repeat 3 times)

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

SEE IT, FEEL IT, SENSE IT

AND, know IT IS so !!!

I like this energetic working as it is clean, simply worded and easy to focus upon. Thanks... I will do it, and I appreciate Tone for what's already been done. Mine will be a complimentary confirmation work.

[14 Chakras]

I am not the most trusting of any religious systems these days. I have studied the bible in it's original languages for years, was a "sold out" christian at one time, but through keeping an open heart and mind have come to some realizations at how the church was corrupted and that there is a good likelihood that all "religions" are just part of the matrix designed to keep us plugged in and not evolve or move on to be who we are truly supposed to be.

I totally understand and completely agree that religions themselves are very corrupt and offer only glimpses of truth. Could it be because religions are run by people who are under very heavy illusions themselves and infinitely more concerned about their own status and power or the organization itself than they are about seeking the truth and empowering others to find the truth that will set them free? For example, what would happen if the religious leader found out their religion was wrong in many or most of it's beliefs? Would that not shatter their ego identity and put them out of a job? Not to mention the ones that are well aware they are deceiving the people.

Generally speaking, I think the religious elite throughout history, including today, are the ones who "have taken away the key of knowledge: entered not in themselves and stopped others from entering" (yes it's a new testament quote Luke 11:52).

In other words, the religious elite have hidden the true esoteric knowledge from the people, and literally destroyed (or stored away in a Vatican vault), the inner teachings from all spiritual teachers, and the inner teachings of Jesus that would empower the people to "do the works that Jesus did, only greater works than these" and to know the truth that will set them free.

That means freedom from the grid and freedom from the elite and their religions and that's not something they want to happen anytime soon!

I have personally learned to differentiate between religious phony baloney and inner teachings of spiritual teachers, including Jesus, that are designed to empower the people and set them free from the illusion that they are just human beings and birth in them the reality they are individualization's of the infinite.

I have learned that Christ is a consciousness not some guy, and that Jesus, who was a man like you are, simply became enlightened and embodied that consciousness to show us who we really are and what we're capable of, not because he is more special than us, but because he is our brother...

I've also found that he is a part of a much larger team of enlightened beings, including Archangel Michael, that are here to help us raise our own planet back up into a place where truth, abundance and justice prevail and we have truly taken dominion over our own lives and planet rather than us continuing to give up all of our power to something outside of us.

Note that very few, if any religions will teach you to call to make calls to Archangel Michael. Maybe if people in those religions did bond with Archangel Michael, they'd start to see through the lies in their own institutions, and that simply wouldn't be good for business would it?

I'm curious to hear anyone's feedback on this link to the rosary, which is not religious, but for me does contain universal truths, and does work! More just curious than anything, that being said, it is important to evaluate with an open mind to make it worthwhile:

http://www.mothermarysgarden.com/J_ADVROS/ZADVROSPDF/9Michael10.pdf

[Unified Serenity]

Hey Chakras,

Interesting views, I think man is going to have to get our act together and not look to be "saved" too, but there are enlightened ones to help us on our way. Regarding your question, "I'm curious to hear anyone's feedback on this link to the rosary, which is not religious, but for me does contain universal truths, and does work!" the rosary is a tool. It is a way for someone to shut off the babbler in their head that often will not shut up and thus makes meditation difficult. To me it is akin to the charismatic movements fake talking in tongues, a completely non-biblical experience they (ok some have ) used and twisted scripture to convince themselves they are talking in some "angelic" language. What the rosary and tongues do is allow the person to tap into the spiritual mind by going into a deep Beta or even Delta state and commune in the spirit with something. Please don't read that last as judgmental on my part as I'm actually being non-judgmental by not saying what they are connecting with if anything at all.

If, and I doubt anyone on avalon will go at me on this, anyone wants to discuss the whole tongues thing we can do so on another thread, as I don't want to hi-jack this one on curses.

[14 Chakras]

"I think man is going to have to get our act together and not look to be "saved" too, but there are enlightened ones to help us on our way"

Yes, I agree completely. Perhaps there is an enlightened team of spiritual beings who are working behind the scenes to help humanity move past their 'stuff'. Perhaps this team is well aware that humanity cannot make it through their evolution without working on their own stuff, so they're not promising to do the work for us, rather help us work through our own stuff by our own free will. That's what my personal connection to Archangel Michael is about, he helps me get over my stuff, and keeps me protected in this mucky world.

When I asked the question about the rosary link, I'm hoping for some feedback on what you think of the content of that particular spoken word rosary rather than the purpose of reading a rosary. There are many interesting concepts in this rosary and
i find it has a lot of light. There's nothing about speaking in tongues as far as I know, and I too am no fan of psychobable...

As for the purpose, one of the purposes of it, is that the world is run by free will of us humans. When we invoke a high spiritual being from a place of great truth, we are allowing the infinite to do what it needs to do to help humanity raise itself up without having to go through the many potential birth pains of the new age. It can be a beautiful start to the golden age, if we here are willing to do our part.

Back to the focus of the thread, as for lifting of curses, protection against negative energy, I have found nothing remotely close to as powerful as establishing a relationship with AA Michael, but that's just my experience :).

[lawlessline]

Inified Serenity,

Sorry for the time delay but really busy at the mo.
I have tried to answer your questions as I see it, but as everyone knows there are many ways to skin a cat. This is part of a skining process, that I am familiar with.
L&L
ll

Ok, if someone has a curse on them from second method you mentioned, what is the way to remove that? What if the person with the curse hold no ill will towards the person who did have great ill will towards them and possibly still does?

On the second case. There is a situation of negociation that must be done. These tend to arise from points of view. Example. You could say the simbol Ying and Yang is white, I say its black, we disagree and the friction creates a discord in the waves of your energy. One person put the curse on the other, at this point of frictyion. The energy point on you will then be distrorted from what you are putting out, giving the result of the curse. To release this from the person, there must be a negciated relaese from both sides. The refusing party will pick up the tab. How to do this negociation can be done via force through saints etc. Or both parties understand that there is truth from both sides and that fighting is futile. This then realeases both sides with a good outcome for both. So even if yo have no ill will the distortionion in you energy wave during the discord will be fixed.

How does one tell what geometric shape has interfered with them and their dna or energy?

To find that you should look at your DNA and also your energy. To understand what it is you need to be able to experience it. That is done not only through sight, but sound and touch. It is only using all three in unison can you get the full picture.

I'd like your take on how to keep these curses from flying one's way because someone gets a burr under their "butt" and hates you.

The curse works on emotions, or the glue. The direction is divined by the issue involved, with the results desired.. The emotion without the direction is just that emotion. Yiou can shrug it off in everycase. Persitent bad vibes at it were can develope a curse of the first type. This can be simply put into the recyle star of the 9th chakra which is where we can recycle our feelings and incomplete geometry.

Thanks

[lawlessline]

[QUOTE=tone3jaguar;144629]Lawlessline!!!!

/QUOTE]


Man great to be a part of a moment for you.
keep it going.

[asteram]

Dear Swanny-

Will you marry me? California's out, but Massachusetts is still OK, I think. It's never too late!

[tone3jaguar]

Originally posted by 13 Chakras
I have found nothing remotely close to as powerful as establishing a relationship with AA Michael, but that's just my experience .

He is a good higher entity to work with. Lucky for me I already had him as a guide before I ever incarnated this time around. Back when I first started doing battle with the negatives, they sent a Demon after me in my sleep. It flipped me over back up while I was sleeping and ripped all of my energy pathways out of my body and left huge gaping holes where all of my energy flooded out of. Michael steped in a prevented me from dying from this by feeding me as much or more life force than was leaking out of me. I recommend people ask for his help as well.

That being said, there are billions of ascended beings in this Multiverse that can work together to multiply the level of positive healing and helping power that Michael Exibits.

[Swanny]

Dear Swanny-

Will you marry me? California's out, but Massachusetts is still OK, I think. It's never too late!

Sorry you're not my type :naughty:

Great thread very interesting :thumb_yello:

[Unified Serenity]

Originally posted by 13 Chakras


He is a good higher entity to work with. Lucky for me I already had him as a guide before I ever incarnated this time around. Back when I first started doing battle with the negatives, they sent a Demon after me in my sleep. It flipped me over back up while I was sleeping and ripped all of my energy pathways out of my body and left huge gaping holes where all of my energy flooded out of. Michael steped in a prevented me from dying from this by feeding me as much or more life force than was leaking out of me. I recommend people ask for his help as well.

That being said, there are billions of ascended beings in this Multiverse that can work together to multiply the level of positive healing and helping power that Michael Exibits.

You know I started doing active battle when I was about 14. I got attacked in astral by a rep and had the physical marks when I awoke. I didn't get physically attacked while awake until I was 21 and studying spiritual warfare fulltime. I called out to "Jesus" and the demon was removed. I was attacked again about a month later, but this time I simply ordered him to leave, and basically laughed him away and sent universal energy against him and he fled and has never returned. I recently had to deal with "Amon" because of something a child of mine was going through. It has strengthened my child's spiritual beliefs and worked out for the best.

I appreciate all the sharing in this thread. I do think many of us who are awake are dealing with a lot more negative assaults than many may realize. There has been unnecessary disagreements in my family that we have had to work through, and I do believe it is a spiritual battle. No, I don't blame everything on demons or negative entities, but when I really do sense their handiwork I deal with it.

Love to all here,

Serenity

[tone3jaguar]

I recently had to deal with "Amon" because of something a child of mine was going through. It has strengthened my child's spiritual beliefs and worked out for the best.

I don't know if it is the same being, but Amun is part of the team I built for automatic protection around me.

[mudra]

I sometimes think of life as a book we wrote from full consciousness before stepping into the play and assume the roles we have chosen in order to learn things or rather how to learn them .
The people we meet, the situations we are finding ourselves in, the interests we have are all part of a plot we layed down.The plot has some main guide lines from which we make choices . And we play the same piece a number of times until we grasp and master everything we need to know . This would account for the feeling of " déjà vu " that we sometimes experience. In that sense everything that happens to us is welcome . There is no need to fear anything or to defend oneself against but only remember we wrote the story in the first place so rather go with it and follow the flow and be wise enough to go round the traps we ourselves have layed down ;)

Kindness
mudra

[mudra]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/hearts_keep/coolfantasyimages/prudence2.jpg

“Only those who truly love and who are truly strong can sustain their lives as a dream. You dwell in your own enchantment. Life throws stones at you, but your love and your dream change those stones into the flowers of discovery. Even if you lose, or are defeated by things, your triumph will always be exemplary. And if no one knows it, then there are places that do. People like you enrich the dreams of the worlds, and it is dreams that create history. People like you are unknowing transformers of things, protected by your own fairy-tale, by love.”
~ Ben Okri (1959)


Kindness
mudra

[rhythm]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/hearts_keep/coolfantasyimages/prudence2.jpg

“Only those who truly love and who are truly strong can sustain their lives as a dream. You dwell in your own enchantment. Life throws stones at you, but your love and your dream change those stones into the flowers of discovery. Even if you lose, or are defeated by things, your triumph will always be exemplary. And if no one knows it, then there are places that do. People like you enrich the dreams of the worlds, and it is dreams that create history. People like you are unknowing transformers of things, protected by your own fairy-tale, by love.”
~ Ben Okri (1959)


Kindness
mudra

Mudra WONDERFULL WONDERFULL

SO TRUE DEAR !!!!!!:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

[Unified Serenity]

Amon is a demon of wrath. I doubt you employed his aid. Just a hunch is all. :naughty:

[Jacqui D]

Hi Swanny, well i will tell you something my grandfather was Romany, my grand mother married in to the gypsy family, however although i do not doubt that they can do this, my grandmother had an ability to scare the hell out of someone if they crossed her, but that would have to be something really bad, the gypsies would not curse you for such a mundane thing.
The only curse that attacks families 6 generations are those who choose the fraternity of masons.
Once one joins that curses ones family 6 generations back 6 forwards The gypsies are really a friendly lot and i don't believe they would do something maliciously, but cross my path!!!!!! no only kidding lol!
That's pure evil doing something like that cursing you and saying that!
I hope you didn't take it to heart, you just haven't found the right girl yet!
But as was said before why worry about getting married it's only a piece of paper, just enjoy life don't get tied down to no one, live your life without the worry of a possible divorce a few years down the line.

I hope you find someone Swanny, good luck!

[Moxie]

I appreciate the sharing of the ArchAngel Michael "rosary", although I don't like the word rosary and am not affiliated w/any organized religion either. And my view of the Ultimate Creator is not personfied as shape & form. And it never occurred to me to call on another 'being' such as Michael, but I gave it a go yesterday and this morning awakened w/such a grateful heart that I wept for several minutes, filled w/gratitude.

I don't know what forces are attached to me, but it must be one or more humdingers as I've had some pretty serious experiences and have entertained the idea that I have a "negative attachment" and I could use some protection.

I really appreciate the thumbs up about AA Michael from you too Tone3... and I'll check out Amun. Maybe we, well, someone other than me (lol) should start a thread that others can share what protection techniques they use. I'd really be interested.

[Jacqui D]

A good protection Moxie is the golden light, not white light but the golden light.
If you place yourself in a golden sphere all will be well.
If you want to know more pm me and i will explain how to do it.
What i will say is Amun ; ie Amen also used at the end of prayers is Amen Ra the sun god.
Basically when you pray and say the words Amen you are opening yourself up to Amen Ra giving him permission (allowing him) to enter.
This is not the creator but the sun god Ra.
Really we do not have to pray as such we have to re connect with the Creator no words will help but knowing, feeling your intuition, we are all connected to the creators love, via soul when you resonate on those terms you will awaken more and will receive the creators love and protection.

[tone3jaguar]

Amon is a demon of wrath. I doubt you employed his aid. Just a hunch is all. :naughty:



Yeah, two distinctly different frequencies in their names. Amun is referred to as the hidden one in Egyptian mythology. He dowses up a positively polarized entity. Hidden because he specializes in Veils.

[tone3jaguar]

A good protection Moxie is the golden light, not white light but the golden light.
If you place yourself in a golden sphere all will be well.

That does work well. I like to meditate on filling my entire house with liquid golden white light that floods in from the floor and fills the house up. Then it flows out of the house and creates a dome of liquid golden white light. The bad guys cant penetrate it. It is like us trying to take a space walk without a suit.

What i will say is Amun ; ie Amen also used at the end of prayers is Amen Ra the sun god.

Not the same deity here are the descriptions off the two from my book "The Encyclopedia of Gods"

Amun

Origin: Egypt. Supreme Creator God

Amun is a sun god, lord of (the sky and king off the Egyptian world. He is perceived as a primeval deity present in chaos at the creation of the cosmos and is therefore also one of the eight deities of the Ogdoad coupled with the goddess Amaunet and representing hidden power.

There are 6 gods from Japanese Shinto that start out with the Words Amen. There are none others listed.

Ra is not the same beings as Amun

Ra (Re)

Origin: Egypt. Creator God and Sun God

One of several manifestations of the sun god and creator god of Egypt. Closely linked with the underworld god Osiris, the notion took shape that the combined deity was Ra by day as the sun and became Osiris, lord of the western Horizon at the onset of night.

So they are similar in the idea that they are both beings that where worshiped by cultures that worshiped the sun. However, they are essentially different beings at different stages of cosmic evolution.

FROM WIKIPEDIA ABOUT AMEN

The word Amen (pronounced /ˌɑːˈmɛn/ or /ˌeɪˈmɛn/; Hebrew: אָמֵן, Modern Amen Tiberian ’Amen ; Arabic: آمين‎, ’Āmīn ; "So be it; truly" is a declaration of affirmation[1][2] found in the Hebrew Bible and New Testament. Its use in Judaism dates back to its earliest texts.[3] It has been generally adopted in Christian worship as a concluding word for prayers and hymns.[2] In Islam, it is the standard ending to Dua (supplication). Common English translations of the word amen include: "Verily", "Truly", "So be it", and "Let it be." It can also be used colloquially to express strong agreement,[2] as in, for instance, amen to that.[4]

[TraineeHuman]

Regarding the golden light: I'd really like you to tell us all how you invoke it, Jacqui. I know that I can invoke it just by thinking "golden light" or "divine light". I'm not convinced that the-person-in-the-street can access it as easily.

I've been a psychic healer since childhood, and I noticed that the golden light only seemed to become available in 1959, from which times it appeared whenever I did healing. Prior to that, the healing light that appeared used to be a pure bright white colour, but it could also take the form of being silver and violet. (Angelic and other beings doing healing often appeared in a blue or violet light also.) I don't know how many people have heard of Sri Aurobindo, a nineteenth century Indian guru (also, Indians say, more responsible than Ghandi for liberating India) generally considered to have been a reincarnation of Leonardo da Vinci and (by people like me) the most evolved being on the planet in centuries. When Aurobindo was about to die in 1956, he promised that on his death he would work from the other side, in collaboration with his successor on this side, to raise the level of all of humanity's consciousness. His successor claimed she could see the golden light everywhere around in 1956, which to her indicated that the project had been successfully completed. But I didn't notice it till 1959 -- though I was extremely young at the time. However, I'm not the only person who noticed some kind of major change to the planet's or humanity's energies in 1959. This also sounds slightly like "ascension to a higher density". I can't so far make any other sense of all the material regarding that.

[avyaktam]

HI TraineeHuman,

Sri Aurobindo is my main course. Your dates are a bit off. SA left his body in 1950, but stated that he would not leave the earth atmosphere till the full transformation would be accomplished and would come back as the first supramental being. The minimum time for this to occur was estimated as three hundred year. I consider him to be the spearpoint, the hand of God, for this grand work of world transformation. Gold is the color of the supramental world. What you are referring to is the birth of the supramental world on the 29th of February 1956. We are living in 2 worlds now at the same time, one is fully new and one is dying. A unique, unprecedented situation...

29 February 1956

During the Common Meditation on Wednesday

This evening the Divine Presence, concrete and material, was
there present amongst you. I had a form of living gold, bigger
than the universe, and I was facing a huge and massive golden
door which separated the world from the Divine.
As I looked at the door, I knew and willed, in a single movement
of consciousness, that “the time has come”, and lifting
with both hands a mighty golden hammer I struck one blow,
one single blow on the door and the door was shattered to
pieces.
Then the supramental Light and Force and Consciousness
rushed down upon earth in an uninterrupted flow.

[14 Chakras]

I appreciate the sharing of the ArchAngel Michael "rosary", although I don't like the word rosary and am not affiliated w/any organized religion either. And my view of the Ultimate Creator is not personfied as shape & form. And it never occurred to me to call on another 'being' such as Michael, but I gave it a go yesterday and this morning awakened w/such a grateful heart that I wept for several minutes, filled w/gratitude.

I don't know what forces are attached to me, but it must be one or more humdingers as I've had some pretty serious experiences and have entertained the idea that I have a "negative attachment" and I could use some protection.



We live in a very toxic environment on this planet. Unfortunately, this planet is not yet heaven on earth and their is a huge amount of negative energy, entities, light suckers moving around this world unseen by our 5 senses.

We have an energy field that can be broken into, shattered, disapated, etc. and there is more than enough 'hungry ghost' out there that want a piece of our light and are waiting for any opportunity to sneak in to us, think for us, drag us down and steal our energy.

That's what spiritual protection is all about, keeping us protected in this very toxic environment we find ourselves in.

For example, we don't see germs, but we wash our hands. We don't see entities but we should protect our energy fields if we don't want to get sick consciously the same way we wash our hands to not get sick physically.

That's a wonderful experience Moxie, thank you for sharing. I find experiences like that are sign post along the spiritual path to show us we're moving in the right direction. It's easy for our ego to write them off, but that's where we lose out. We must keep climbing and moving forward and know that we will get the signs at the right times along the way...

[Triaxis]

Well it all boils down to belief doesn't it?

Desire (or fear) backed by belief equals reality?

Like Reiki for example. Is it the power symbols that create the desired effect, or the belief that the power symbols create the desired effect?

You can call to the angels, practice Rieki or Kathara, , or breath this way or use this shade of light in that way, or simply pray at the end of the bed.

Providing they are backed by belief, they are all equally as powerful are they not?

[Jacqui D]

The golden light is the true connection to the Creator, the energy which connects us all, when we call on the golden light we connect to the Creators energy so it becomes powerful.
Everyone can do this no person is higher than another only consciousness is higher.
Once you have mastered this connection you have become higher consciousness the art to becoming higher consciousness is the realisation you do not have to think this is using the mind, the mind is controlled by beings which enslave this world, dis connect from the mind use your heart, intuition and love the only way of connecting back to the Creator.
This is the most powerful energy of all.

[tone3jaguar]

Well it all boils down to belief doesn't it?

Desire (or fear) backed by belief equals reality?

Like Reiki for example. Is it the power symbols that create the desired effect, or the belief that the power symbols create the desired effect?

You can call to the angels, practice Rieki or Kathara, , or breath this way or use this shade of light in that way, or simply pray at the end of the bed.

Providing they are backed by belief, they are all equally as powerful are they not?


From the point of view of the shaman, the short answer is no. Lets put it this way, if you died and where watching from the other side, would the belief of people still alive have any bearing on your ability to help and guide the people that are still alive?

The shapes you speak of actually do not rely on belief of any kind. Everything is made out of consciousness that takes shape because of specific vibrations that are applied to it. You could hide shapes like this in artwork, not tell any of the people who are viewing it that it is there, and it would still have a profound effect on them.

Even if you bought the artwork and the artist is dead it still would have the same effect. This is the magic of sacred geometry. It is also how the power structure gets us to focus on their advertising. These sacred shapes are imbeded in most mass advertising, and 99.999 percent of the people observing it have no clue how much it is effecting their consciousness.

[Luminari]

Swanny,

I would do a 'retroactive enchantment' to re-write the wrong that was done to you and alter your history.

Go back in your mind to just moments before you encountered the gypsy.

Visualise a powerful sheath of violet light around your body with a mirrored external surface (the mirror will send the gypsy's energy back onto herself).

Play the scene forward with your new violet/mirror forcefield around you.

See the torsion fields of the gypsy's intent moving toward you and being repelled by your 'invincible spirit barrier' back towards her.

Feel ecstatic that you have removed the bad energy. Know that this has been accomplished. Forgive the gypsy for her deed so you don't hang on to any negative energy.

This will work as time is non-linear. Strong visualisation is the key, see the event clearly... feel the sun, wind.... hear the noises around you.

Peace.

[Anchor]

Forgive the gypsy for her deed so you don't hang on to any negative energy.

Luminari, an excellent technique you propose there. My quote highlights the one aspect I would personally prioritize above all other things.

A..

[rhythm]

Sorry you're not my type :naughty:

Great thread very interesting :thumb_yello:


See your turning em down now :lol3:

let em come to you swanstar

get in the cue ....:thumb_yello:

[Unified Serenity]

Swanny,

I would do a 'retroactive enchantment' to re-write the wrong that was done to you and alter your history.

Go back in your mind to just moments before you encountered the gypsy.



Very interesting working to propose. Do you think something like this will actually alter the past and effect current situations. For example, if someone curses your marriage and it caused a divorce say 10 years ago, and you successfully undo that damage, but since then you have remarried, would you now be in the same marriage as 10 years ago (note I know ppl could divorce anyway but just play with me here) so what happens to your marriage to the new person and maybe even children born?


My take would be on if you are currently in love and happily married and maybe a parent from the new union, that you would be split in desire and thus could not effectively visualize with true desire to undo the past as inwardly you don't want to lose the current happiness and children. Just a paradox to discuss.

[Swanny]

Swanny,

I would do a 'retroactive enchantment' to re-write the wrong that was done to you and alter your history.

Go back in your mind to just moments before you encountered the gypsy.

Visualise a powerful sheath of violet light around your body with a mirrored external surface (the mirror will send the gypsy's energy back onto herself).

Play the scene forward with your new violet/mirror forcefield around you.

See the torsion fields of the gypsy's intent moving toward you and being repelled by your 'invincible spirit barrier' back towards her.

Feel ecstatic that you have removed the bad energy. Know that this has been accomplished. Forgive the gypsy for her deed so you don't hang on to any negative energy.

This will work as time is non-linear. Strong visualisation is the key, see the event clearly... feel the sun, wind.... hear the noises around you.

Peace.

Thx I did that :original:

[Luminari]

Very interesting working to propose. Do you think something like this will actually alter the past and effect current situations. For example, if someone curses your marriage and it caused a divorce say 10 years ago, and you successfully undo that damage, but since then you have remarried, would you now be in the same marriage as 10 years ago (note I know ppl could divorce anyway but just play with me here) so what happens to your marriage to the new person and maybe even children born?


My take would be on if you are currently in love and happily married and maybe a parent from the new union, that you would be split in desire and thus could not effectively visualize with true desire to undo the past as inwardly you don't want to lose the current happiness and children. Just a paradox to discuss.

This is a good technique for fairly simple things like lifting the curse.

I'm not sure what the limits of this are. An interesting paradox you propose.

With an increase in our personal spiritual power and in the strength of our morphogenetic fields and also DNA Bio-regenesis to unlock sleeping aspects of our 'Junk DNA' as we enter the 'Fifth World' of the Maya.. more radical variants of this and other magickal techniques might become applicable.

The key is and will be strong belief and intent which makes the impossible possible. :original:

[Luminari]

Thx I did that :original:

Cool man, watch out ladies! The swannmeister is lookin' for love. :wub2: :wink2: