ALL is Spiritual

[NOWIAM]

:welcomeani:

It's been said that ALL is Spiritual...

That matter is just slowed down Spirit...

What do you all think about this?

:gathering:

[OceanWinds]

I agree dude :thumb_yello::biggrin2::roll1::biggrin2: :thumb_yello:

[SynchrOMicity]

\[Interesting, who said that? All is spirit, if you were inclinded to think all is from ONE source, and in your conceptual feild, spirit was the name you used for source,then all is SPIRIT. Personally that is how I see it ALL IS ONE, source exspanding into all-that-is. Now if source exspands into many drops of spirit then there are many spirits but only one source. IE: Ocean is vast but we can take out one drop, same quality, only one drop. Put it back and you have vast ocean. Second question: matter is just slowed down spirit? So can spirit slow down and also a higher vibration of same spirit also mingle within it, interesting thought. All life from same source, infinite exspresion all vibrating at differant speeds (levels) of Consciousness,and that is the driving force of creation, consciousness. Light and electrom is the avenue, so yes I would say never matter, no mind, no mind never matter, spirit slowed down. Vibrating slower in consciousness. So we all be ONE creating all this, are we having fun yet?

I woud like to share a poem spirit wrote through me in 1986

I perceive in you
a spark of good
not seen in many
though it should
a flame it will be
if you humble yourself
and see
the world is spinning round
for you and for me
with LOVE all around
yours to be found
and to learn to be
for all to see
oh please!

Thanks for sharing tOM

[conjuredUp]

I gotta tend to agree.
Everything is divine.

Even if we label it negatively, SOMETHING still made it, right?
So yeah... all spiritual.

LOVELOVELOVE
C

[AMA-GI]

As the bee collects nectar and fragrance, so let the sage dwell on earth

[NOWIAM]

BTW: If ALL is spiritual...then why is there a seperate thread on this forum called "spirituality"?

:shocked: :mfr_lol:

[mudra]

Hello Friends,

I just wanted to share with you these series of Ian Lungold on the Mayan calendar. He speaks on the evolution of consciousness and this interesting times we are living right now.

Here is the link to part 1 of an 18 parts series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8SWUJvvTGA

Enjoy

Peace

inès

[OceanWinds]

The direction of attention/intent is more balanced on within and without in this forum, where as other forums attention are directed more towards without.

[conjuredUp]

BTW: If ALL is spiritual...then why is there a seperate thread on this forum called "spirituality"?

:shocked: :mfr_lol:

Yeah... I don't get that one myself. :-)

LOVELOVELOVE

[mudra]

Without really is within.

Work on yourself and your world will become better. That's for sure (Ashtar Sheran)
peace

inès

[OceanWinds]

Without really is within.

inès

its a reflection... but in essence you are correct. But my point is more about the point of focus.

[mudra]

I see your point :)
Keeping within and without into balance is a good thing. One can easily become hypnotised by the outside world and its load of problems and then forget one's true nature which is spiritual.

inès

[whitecrow]

It's been said that ALL is Spiritual...

That matter is just slowed down Spirit...

What do you all think about this?

You're equating "spirit" with "energy." Energy is what makes molecules vibrate, and the frequency of vibration determines whether we can see them, among other things. I think we could spend a lot of time talking about what we mean by spirit - and even then we might not wind up on the same page.

I think that the most accurate way to envision reality in all its infinitude (obviously impossible to visualize fully but can be experienced directly in part) is to think of it as an infinite, multidimensional matrix of vibrating energy. Both space and time are meaningless outside a pretty narrow set of paradigms, and all that we can detect with our senses and our technology lies within an infinitesimally tiny section of bandwidth on the divine spectrum. Somewhere outside of, or on the fringes of what we are able to detect lies the world of spirit. And since we can't detect it in any reliable, repeatable, measurable way, we can't prove it even exists. Of course, those who are able to enter this realm know perfectly well that it exists.

The ultimate source of the entire matrix is what's traditionally been called God in Western culture - it's just a name, and there are plenty of others. "God" doesn't care what you call "him." "He" knows how bound we are by conventional patterns. Matter, energy, yes it's all spirit, but that too is just a name. It implies intelligence and volition and carries an aura or sacredness, but I don't know how to define what it is in words that everyone (or anyone!) would agree with.

[OceanWinds]

lol.... dont complicate things dude, all we are trying to say is that since everything is created by the Creator, everything is of the Creators essence... so everything is spirit. Even "nothing" or "empty space" is spirit.

When things get complicated, the awe feeling goes away.

[NOWIAM]

I tend to see Spirit as more than energy...at least it's the Source of energy/matter and may even be the medium or substance (for lack of better words) by which created existence manifest...

BTW: Many years ago I read in The Urantia Book that although many people feel that "space" is nothing it is actually something. The Urantia authors speak of areas known as potential space, (or the future realms of manifested existence which is not yet occupying anything, even "space"), as the closes to what would be considered nothing.

Here are some artist interpretations of the Urantia cosmology starting from the Absolute Center (Isle of Paradise) outwards. The last picture shows the "Master Universe" outside of which nothing has yet been created.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/nowiam/URANTIA-PARADISEbig-1.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/nowiam/URANTIA-HAVONAbig.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/nowiam/URANTIA-GRANDbig-1.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/nowiam/URANTIA-MASTERbig.jpg

[THE eXchanger]

you are energy, and, energy is you

you are also rings of evolvement,
trying to eXpress itself,
all at once

for example,
a 9th dimensional being
would be expressing,
The Original spark + 9 completed aspects of self
(like 3 sacred triangles)

brightest blessings of energy, light and love

i am susan
white lotus star
The eXchanger

[Ashatav]

Yeah friend, all is spirituall, BUT

You have to esperience hat you have to experience.

Before your life you decide what you will do in this life. So Experience with passion your life, it didn't comes back!!!


hohohoho

Second, some idea I found the other day ...


"The road to heaven si made in Bicicle... To admire the view..."


PD: Good Urantia drowings Nowiam!

[OceanWinds]

nice artwork... thankyou NOWIAM

[Ashatav]

Look what I found, The Reallity is an Ilusioon (with subtitles in Spanish :biggrin2: ), the las part (and really positive part) of esoteric agenda: watch it, it's short and really aceptable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn-OUSw_ZBU&feature=related

and the second part

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yM2LEyAYoI

the only thing I differ it's the part it says the positive thiking might changue the world, I really think the thinking it's good but not all. haha.

Cheers!

[Kundaflower]

Dear beloveds...

If everything is spiritual then this is not a separete forum...

Lots hugs:huglove:

[Kundaflower]

Dear lovers..

lots hugs means sweaty passionate hugs :jawdrop:

Now i really have to stop....

peace and love...

[OceanWinds]

Dear beloveds...

If everything is spiritual then this is not a separete forum...

Lots hugs:huglove:


good point... :thumb_yello:

[mudra]

I agree dude :thumb_yello::biggrin2::roll1::biggrin2: :thumb_yello:
it's been said that everything is spiritual and that the outside world is an illusion. I totally agree with this.I think though, that spirit needs games and challenges in order to remind itself to itself.I guess being all knowingness gets boring at times and this is where the games of lower vibrations start .Partially aware and partially unconscious, due to entrapment into solid matter, the game is then, to follow the thread to one's true nature , which is divine and infinite.And this in itself is fun and interesting.

love

mudra

[Kundaflower]

Hello lovers...

Do you think that all knowingness means that you know ALL or you know what you wanna know when and where you wanna know ?

Is being in illusion good, bad or what ? :mfr_omg:

Is there anything we have to do ? :tongue2:

:wub2:

[JohnWdoe]

All is All not Spirituality.

[Kundaflower]

Hi beloved..

Does all is spiritual say anything else than there is no duality in quality ?

:shocked:

love..

[SynchrOMicity]

mudra, that is DEEP- SPIRIT gets board and falls to remind itself of self!
Really makes you appreciate being! Lets lose ourselves go completely astray and then find ourselves again! Moody Blues (circa 1986). And correct no guarantees in 3 Ds. Follow the thread indeed. BACK!


Kundaflower, Love back at ya! A state of all knowing is pure bliss and is indescri-bable. A state of knowing what and when needed or you want to know, is spirit, spirit judges all things rightly. So if you walk in the spirit you know! Mind of Christ is one way to look at it.

Is being in illusion, good bad or what? Depends if you are an observer or attached, but sure is interesting!

Is there anything we have to do? Not really - Will and keep breathing and observe! And if U get hungry maybe eat a banana!

YOU ASKED,my humble opinion or was that onion!

PEACE OM PEACE

[NOWIAM]

If everything is spiritual then this is not a separate forum...

Yes, this is exactly the point!

However, it's the "illusion" that there is separation (via a person’s limited perception) which should be considered when discussing this topic. :original:


All is All not Spirituality.

This is also a good point and probably a more complete (hence accurate) way of wording it.

So yes it could be stated that ALL is MORE than Spiritual.

Spirit was just the wording I chose for the most fundamental and all-inclusive consideration for existence (and beyond) while retaining a divine attribute and connection to us the sentient, etc, observors. Whereas sometimes when you say the word "ALL" people don't get a sense of a personal, divine or mystical attribute, but more of a sterile materialistic slant.

If this makes any sense? :hypo:

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/nowiam/Almost_There_by_kelc.jpg

[OceanWinds]

i got ya NOWIAM... much of what you said is implied... and if we want to get into semantics all is not all... all simply is, and even giving it "all" name takes away from it