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maya12-21-2012
09-11-2008, 11:07 PM
Will You Be Aboard the Boat for 5D+ Earth?
by Gregg Prescott, M.S.

Over 3,000 years ago the Mayans knew that something special would happen by December 21, 2012. It might. It might not. Ultimately, what may happen will be up to YOU. This is a "once-in-a-1000-liftimes" opportunity for those who are ready for the next stage of spirituality. Those who live in fear will most likely come back and do it over and over and over again until they get it right.

The 2012 spirituality boat is filling with passengers at a slow but steady pace. The biggest problem revolves around having too many people who are overly concerened with trivial issues that are out of their control.

For example:
"What if we have a pole reversal?"
"What if there's a nuclear war?"
"Where's a safe place to live?"
"There's gonna be a food shortage!"
"The price of gas is killing me!"
"How can I protect myself?"

Thoughts WILL become REALITY.

It's already happening for those who buy into The Secret. The Secret provides the ground to be used as the "testing waters" for those who truly believe that thoughts will equal manifestations. The Secret worked for me and many others who believe that there's something much greater than what we can physically comprehend. You can't measue this force with empirical data, it just exists. Amazingly, it's available to everyone, but few know how to truly use this The Secret to their advantage.

It may be quite possible that parallel universes will be established for the believers and non-believers.

In this scenario, the believers will go to (or remain on) a 5D Earth where we can all live in peace and harmony. The non-believers will remain in this dimension, along with Satan, the Illuminati, NWO, G Dubya and anyone else who either buys into the hated, power, control, greed and fear factors. Could this be Hell? Unlike the US Government, 5D Earth's inhabitants will truly care for it's people's best interests with love and respect for one another. No more power. No more greed. No more hatred. No more need for money. No more need, period!

These fear factors will not be accepted or tolerated on 5D Earth. Those who exhibit this type of personality will not make the leap. Why? Because their thoughts would be destructive to this type of environment. Call it what you want, but it's ultimately spiritual segregation.

The good news is that it's not too late to change!!! Everybody has the opportunity to make the right choices to make this leap, right NOW. (Although I'm not so sure about the Illuminati, but their time is limited and they know it.)

To those who choose to live in fear, good luck. The next boat leaves in 5,128 years. Hopefully, you'll learn your lesson by then.

There's always remains the possibility that nothing happens in 2012. If that's the case, what have you lost? Nothing, including sleep over worrying about things that are out of your control. What have you gained? Spirituality and you've helped to make this world a better place RIGHT NOW. It's a win-win situation!!!

As for 5D Earth, who's in?

source: http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/index.php?topic=328.0

Swanny
09-11-2008, 11:24 PM
I read somewhere else on this forum thats the date has been changed to the 28th Oct 2011
But book me a seat I'll come :surfing:

CK1
09-11-2008, 11:32 PM
When you say "5D" do you mean 5th Dimension or 5th Density?

maya12-21-2012
09-12-2008, 12:49 AM
When you say "5D" do you mean 5th Dimension or 5th Density?

Great question, and the answer is both!!!

Density is based on vibrational levels which would differentiate between those who live in fear versus those who live in love. A fear minded individual would wreak havok when thoughts become manifestations at this density. Most likely, "Hell" would become their thoughts and lived within their own minds through fear and paranoia.

Dimensional consciousness would also need to rise in proportion to density in order to create its own relevance in accordance to dimensional time and space.

My understanding of the ascension process is that it involves rising to a higher density. For example, according to the Law of One, we're supposed to "graduate" to a 4th level density.

I personally believe we'll graduate to this level before 2012 and to the 5th density level by 12/21/2012. The reason I believe this is because thoughts are already becoming manifestations with little effort. Take the Law of Attraction as an example. Many people, including myself, have successfully used the LoA to make incredible manifestations occur in a relatively short period of time.

At the 5th density level, thoughts will become manifestations. At the 5th dimensional level, we'll be in the consciousness of love and creativity.

Whatever happens, it'll all be good!

maya12-21-2012
09-14-2008, 03:02 AM
I read somewhere else on this forum thats the date has been changed to the 28th Oct 2011
But book me a seat I'll come :surfing:

Calleman, Lungold and Jose Arguelles believe in the October 28, 2011 end date. Most other 2012 luminaries believe it'll be 2012.

As a side note, there have been several crop circles that indicate a 2012 end date as well.

If it comes in 2011, then that's cool, too!!!

Chris Parson
09-14-2008, 03:22 AM
i really don't like all this referencing the secret and the law of attraction out of context of the other laws.

smells like spam. it is also promotion of service to self.

shepherd
09-14-2008, 03:25 AM
Great post Maya :thumb_yello:

JohnWdoe
09-14-2008, 03:58 AM
I believe things like this cannot be typed or even comprehended at this moment to quote you,

""who believe that there's something much greater than what we can physically comprehend. You can't measue this force with empirical data, it just exists""

You are exactly right but what i see is you are saying that this place is of density of love/light. Now i have no problem with the concept but its exactly that a concept.

When we start to mix words like "Illuiminati" "Satan" and denounce every type of greed (because sometimes its honestly good to have your best interest at heart, Ayn Rand calls its "logistical ownership" some start to exclude themselfs from money because its so dirty. The information we all know and are aparnt to shows us every thing greedy and wrong with this world, when even people who are non greedy still seem to bite its tail just to survive and understand what is yours to keep, this is why we express ourselfs and create art for people to see - we know our spirit and soul is our most personal ownership it is ours forever so what do we do? we express ourselfs to express yourself :original:

I don't think we should denounce greed so selfish like (what an odd paradox i came across) because we believe in pure harmony. The honest to god truth about pure harmony is that it 'is' possible here on Earth right now, money has its place but that is an aspect.

Cause&effect goes quite deep within the personality and ultimately it is how we are raised, we need to look at this and see this for is something that happend to "just exist" but now is reality because of humanity.

I always said if we could explore space together we could all become harmonious (in spirit or ship) but now i realize the only way we can do it is to speak our minds and hearts about the world to always make the people understand we want the best for them and and to be a productive civil harmonious system, what a great thing to become! We must watch for the people without contempt for another because our Earth is the only one and she needs us to understand that. Every man/woman knows what to do without it even it being said - because its reality and we earned it. It forms great personality and gives us the simple freedom to enjoy the entire menu of possible charcters, to me that is the beauty of life and 3d existence! We can experince so much from another persons life it makes us feel alive and love for everyone.

I see many people talking about this but the things we should consider is what we can do here and now to make this harmony a reality, that is what humans can only do - evolve. I am aware of all the excess energy helping this but in the end its our choice -we should never give our choice away even if its something of "greed".

We need to know what is ours and i think we both understand this. My personal advice would be to replace greed lucifer and illuminati with heartless destroyers, alot of people have left the concepts of ownership and material fun because it simply failed because people made BAD CHOICES.

:) Peace my friend!

Norval
09-14-2008, 05:54 AM
, , , but I all ready live on a boat. :lmao:

, , , sorry, just couldn't help myself. :original:

maya12-21-2012
09-14-2008, 11:21 AM
i really don't like all this referencing the secret and the law of attraction out of context of the other laws.

smells like spam. it is also promotion of service to self.

You may have missed the point of The Secret, my friend. The Secret, or Law of Attraction, is proof that we're quickly approaching the 4th density level by having thoughts become manifestations with relative ease and minimal effort.

If I were the author of The Secret or had something to gain monetarily by mentioning it, then sure, it'd be spam.

No one is perfect and we still live in a world of duality where "service to self" will exist. Of course, one can define their own interpretation of "service to self" and how it fits within their divine mission. If "service to self" invloves using the Law of Attraction to benefit humanity, then is this such a horrible premise?

maya12-21-2012
09-14-2008, 11:22 AM
Great post Maya :thumb_yello:

Thanks shepherd!

maya12-21-2012
09-14-2008, 11:36 AM
I don't think we should denounce greed so selfish like (what an odd paradox i came across) because we believe in pure harmony. The honest to god truth about pure harmony is that it 'is' possible here on Earth right now, money has its place but that is an aspect.

My personal advice would be to replace greed lucifer and illuminati with heartless destroyers, alot of people have left the concepts of ownership and material fun because it simply failed because people made BAD CHOICES.

:) Peace my friend!

Great thought provoking post, JohnwDoe! "heartless destroyers" sums them up perfectly!

I've learned to embrace the "heartless destroyers" of society while not necessarily agreeing with their beliefs or motives. Anything they do will ultimately awaken more people through their personal search for the truth.

Many people believe that we have two basic emotions, love and fear. Arguably, fear can be used in a positive manner through the seeking of truth, such as the 9/11 truth fighters and people who question chemtrails, religion, fluoride saturation, Monsanto GMO's, etc.

For many, this is the beginning of their spiritual awakening as they discover the real truths that are being covered up. Eventually, they'll realize that their efforts are helping to awaken others to begin their own spiritual journey.

They'll also realize that the dark side is NEEDED right now to help us awaken even more people. That's when fear is eliminated from the picture. That's what makes it so exciting to be alive right now, in this moment!!!

arcora
09-14-2008, 01:45 PM
"heartless destroyers" sums them up perfectly!

I don't mean to be the fly in the ointment, but here goes.

Perhaps the few that are causing trouble for the many are simply excercising their own free will. They have been at it for much longer than us - and are far more adept.

While we may not agree with their means, motives or intentions - perhaps we should be aware that they are doing what they believe is best.

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think anyone wakes up in the morning, looks in the mirror and says "I think I shall be evil today".

Operator
09-14-2008, 01:59 PM
Hi,

What scares me is that this concept will tear families apart ...
If everybody creates own time lines, paths and outcomes will divert tremendously ...

cheers

Ceara
09-14-2008, 02:18 PM
All it takes is a choice between fear and love.

It's that simple.

Fear is Service-to-Self.

Love is Service-to-Others.

Operator
09-14-2008, 02:59 PM
Hi Ceara,

It certainly sounds simple ... and I think you're right ...

However this one way thinking ... How about two way thinking ?

Look at this (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=11158&postcount=25)post of Bill Ryan. All posts in that thread
are about difference of perception.

I find myself in a position where I try to solve an issue with LOVE. Protecting my wife and kids from a potentially bad decision while like
Bill refers to she's probably scared of the uncertainty and even refuses to have a look into info that might proof she's wrong.

My advice to her was to let it rest and see how things evolve. Well this doesn't work. First of all because she' in a hurry,
tied up so much in the rat-race.

But secondly there is this strange circular phenomena : denial

Some people are so scared that things might be true that they do everything to avoid getting evidence that points out
that it is true. Then they get even more scared because they realize that they ARE less informed than others.

In other words it looks like some people are so addicted to the rat-race that they simply don't want to give it up.
Even when a brighter future may be theirs ...

A tough situation if loved ones are involved.

Cheers

P.S. maybe the question of this thread in order to service others should be: how many did you get aboard the 5D+ Earth Boat ?

Gnosis5
09-18-2008, 08:18 AM
It is so hard to rescue a drowning person when they are fighting you, but we do our best to the point of death.

Theresa
09-18-2008, 01:57 PM
here, here!!!

Now THIS is what I'm TALKIN' ABOUT!!!

:lol3:

uboslav
09-18-2008, 07:22 PM
What scares me is that this concept will tear families apart ...
If everybody creates own time lines, paths and outcomes will divert tremendously ...

I have been curious as to what will happen as far as families and different levels of consciousness. Is it like one day my girlfriends parents will not exist on our frequency because they are unwilling to change their belief system?

I have wondered this for sometime. Alex collier in his 2008 speech just says: its ok because we are spirited beings.

I'm just trying to gain knowledge and focus on positivity and not worry about it. I would just like to know.

Rebel4Life
09-18-2008, 08:01 PM
I remember A post done on the October 2011 thing.Here is the post I read about it which was awhile back http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread375834/pg1 enjoy. ^^


Rebel4Life

Chaordic Simplexity
09-18-2008, 08:15 PM
Yea but for most, the secret is about self indulgence. How much stuff can I get by using the secret. lol. IT never ends.

Besides, the secret is distorted. The higher self can block anything if it chooses to evolve. So, it wont necessarily work if youve got other things to learn. Very important.

And to the guy whos afraid of losing family. lol. What family.....theres only one family. The clique/family that you are afraid to lose is the mentality that got us in the mess in the first place. Our special gang of family and friends who are more important than the rest of us. I dont have a family and i t5hink its funny that many will lose what they have.

Its all a part of growth and you will lose ALL your attachments....at least for some time. Chances are most have different consciousness than the people they love. So, they will all be going to many different realms, no matter if ascension happens or whatever. Eventually we will go our own ways.

Who cares...there are endless lovely souls to spend time with. :trumpet:

Lastly, I wish people who used this 4D and 5D stuff actually explained it. None of hem do, which means they probably dont know what they are talking about. Would be nice to know someone who could lay it all out in clear terms. An advanced astral projector perhaps.

This is 3D or 4D? If its 3D why do we skip 4D and go to 5D. the density, dimension confusion is also annoying. My assessment is that the pine cone is 5 dimensional and maybe more. But there really would be no real divisions when it comes to densities.

have a nice day

Jacqui D
09-18-2008, 08:29 PM
I wonder how many of you here on this site has or have had problems with their families believing all this anyway.
I have tried to enlighten my children etc, i am lucky that my sister believes totally with all this stuff, my husband has half truths but neither really believes or doesn't want to.
We will all have to make a discision, and it is coming quickly now, i have been ready for a long time.
i feel this dis interest of my believes have been a way of dis associating myself with my children and husband, if the problems had not arose with my kids i think i may have not chosen to leave if i get the chance.
I know my children are not me and they have their own learning curve, my time has come now i know that i am ready and i shall not fear anything that happens.
If it all turns out to be a big scam then that is all it will be, but i know within myself i have learnt something very special for my own spiriutal growth, by the many messages not disimilar to my own i think there will be quite a few on this boat, hey see you all when it happens i will be happy to see you:wub2:

Sarahmay
09-18-2008, 09:45 PM
Will You Be Aboard the Boat for 5D+ Earth?
by Gregg Prescott, M.S.


Yes, I fully intend on being on that boat! As for the LOA, that is just the way things work, whether you buy in or not.

2infinityandbeyond
09-18-2008, 10:39 PM
What an awesome post Maya!

When i read this i got shivers up my spine.. as if something inside of me was telling me to listen!

Is this why everything is so crazy now.. is these last few years truly a test to see if we are worthy? Its far out i know but.. what if?

Arkan
09-20-2008, 07:24 AM
The Mayan Calendar has been the most useful guide in my life in the area of ascension. Since using the 13 month Tun calendar, I have found that my view of time has shifted dramatically. I feel that I am more in tune with nature because of its basis on the lunar cycle. The solar calendar is based on a more Newtonian, materialistic view of the world which locks you into the 3rd dimension. I remember when I began to first read about the calendar back in June and the title of an article was "Welcome to the 4th Dimension." I just stared at my computer screen for a few moments because I wasn't expecting anything quite like that. :original:

In one of Ian Lungold's lectures he said, "A calendar is the center of a civilization's consciousness." I think he's right about that. Most people don't even think about the fact that holidays, appointments, schedules all depend on the calendar in use and the trust that everyone else will follow that same pattern as well.

What 2012 means to me is that creation will present all of us an opportunity to move up and out of this paradigm. I don't think that it will be a scenario where everything will be solved for us. We all have a lot of work to do and I get the sense that we won't be able to rest until we get it 100% correct. No pressure though. I've come to understand that all I need to do is to maintain integrity and stay informed.


Love and Light to you all
Arkan


http://mayanmajix.com/

Truthman
09-20-2008, 09:23 AM
Great question, and the answer is both!!!
Many people, including myself, have successfully used the LoA to make incredible manifestations occur in a relatively short period of time.

That is awesome!

Could you share with us some of those manifestations?

maya12-21-2012
09-21-2008, 11:31 PM
That is awesome!

Could you share with us some of those manifestations?

My daughter's mom introduced me to the trailer to The Secret at the beginning of last year's NFL Football season. At the time, I was one of the world's biggest sports fanatics. I ordered the DVD and received it a few days later.

I bought into the LoA 100%. It just sounded right to me and gave me answers that religion never gave me. I asked the Universe for ideas on what direction to take and that was the point when I knew I tapped into something much larger than anything we can physically or tangibly imagine.

The Universe guided me into one direction. At the time, I was working as a Child & Family therapist for a company who was all about the money and not about their clients. I loved my job, but I didn't care for working for people like this.

Here is the progression I've gone through so far:

1. The Universe guided to to buying 4 letter dotcom sites. At the time, I knew nothing about creating websites or HTML coding. I originally bought some 4 letter dotcom sites to turn them into profit, but first I had to learn HTML to actually build the site I wanted to sell. This was an important step.

2. The Universe guided me into writing childrens books. I wrote two books for my daughter when she was little and came up with a creative way to sell them as e-books on a website I created. I wrote and illustrated the books and was about to send the first book to a publisher when the Universe gave me the next idea...

3. The Universe guided me to writing a book on common parenting issues. As a child & family therapist, I noticed a plethora of common parenting issues as evidenced by my clients. I wanted to share these woth other parents in a book, so I wrote a book and was ready to submit this book for publishing when the Universe changed my direction. I took my limited knowledge in HTML and built a website to support the book. It was at this point when I started my own business.

4. The Universe guided me to turning the book into a Human Services program to reach the largest amount of people who can use this information the most. At the end of July 2008, I received an International and US patent pending on this idea and have just started to implement the program in the U.S.

5. During this time period, I was guided to discovering the Mayan Calendar. I quickly became fascinated by it. After researching the calendar and seeing a kajillion sites that predicted doomsday in 2012, I decided to create a website that shows a positive view of 2012, http://www.maya12-21-2012.com


6. The Universe guided me to watching some incredible 2012 videos, which culminated into 2012 The Online Movie. I'm currently remaking this movie with the incredible support of the people who will be feautured in the movie such as David Wilcock, Alex Ansary, Richard C, Hoagland, Dannion Brinkley, Gregg Braden, etc. These people are real, down-to-earth soles who truly want the best for all of us. Just as with the first movie, this will also be a free online movie that really gives the true meaning of 2012. I hope to have this completed within the next couple months.

Allan, from Bridging Heaven & Earth, called me last week and was (and is) incredibly supportive of the new movie and stated I could use any of his clips from the interviews he's had with people like, Jose Arguelles, Sonia Chjoquette, etc... I mentioned that eventually, I'd like to start a truth TV station to which he guided me to a contact who is also interested in this idea. Who knows where the Universe will guide me on this idea, but I can't wait to find out!

There are many more things that the Universe has guided me to, but I think you get the idea with the above examples...lol

Also, the LoA works in other areas of life, such as spirituality. There have been many unexplainable events that have happened to me, such as capturing an orb with a face in it on film while at the Boynton Canyon vortex in Sedona, AZ. All you have to do is to ask the Universe to show you everything it has to offer and it will... on it's timeline and when you're really ready to experience it.

The real secret behind the LoA is believing your end goals have already happened. All it took, for me, was the seed that the Universe planted in me when I asked it for ideas.

Also, at any point in time, if something happens that you didn't expect, it happened for a reason. Never look at an "obstacle" as an impediment. The Universe has it's own timeline and everything it does is in your best interest whether you think so or not.

By the way, after watching The Secret, that was the last week that I ever watched a full game of any sport, including the Super Bowl.

Have you used the LoA and if so, how has it helped you?

Jaan
09-16-2009, 04:16 PM
Wow! Thanks maya!
I haven't seen / read The Secret, but I am using some CD's to learn how to meditate. It covers briefly these topics and the last month or so, I've seen amazing changes in things I've addressed. But now I'm sold!

Thank you for sharing this with us.

246
09-16-2009, 06:54 PM
Everyone is harping about how the Human race as a whole is moving into 4-Dimensional reality out of 3-D and we're as a whole undergoing a spiritual awakening. Well, God, we are already way past 3-D. If we were just 3-D we would be a rock. I think the fourth dimension is time, the fifth intellect, the sixth imagination and dreams, the seventh spiritual and wisdom, and who knows after that? We evolved way beyond 3-D a billion years ago. But we do seem to be going through a Spiritual and knowledge based new awakening. I think we can thank computers and the internet for that, but not so much television...

TempestGarden
09-17-2009, 06:19 AM
I just started my awakening process at the beginning of this year and I have been reading books and watching videos like crazy since then. I have read a good bit about the LoA and I have tried to apply it to my life but I don't think I have been very successful thus far. I wonder if this means that I am still living in fear too much?

I would love to go to the 5th Density/Dimension! The only problem is, everything I read and see about this seems to have a slightly different "take" on it and quite honestly, I have no idea who to believe. I am not entirely sure that I even grasp the concept. Perhaps someone that understands it better can help me with this?

I was under the impression (perhaps in error) that when in this state, we don't really have physical bodies, so to speak; that our bodies are made of light. If this is true, does that mean that we don't really live in a physical density/dimension then, when in the 5th?

It seems like I have read a hundred different takes on what is gonna happen in 2012 and what it means to "ascend" and the further knowledge I get, the more confused I get it seems. Perhaps this is part of "my path" or my pre-birth contract, that I would have to piece all of this stuff together over a long period of time or something. Who knows?

Is anyone familiar with George Kavassilas?

I just finished watching a presentation on YouTube that he did back in March and it was very interesting. Honestly, some of it did resonate with me. He has a very interesting take on what will transpire in 2012. Like others, he believes that his information is more accurate than what many others have said, mostly referring to those that get their info from channeled information. At least that was my take on it anyways. He claims that a lot of channeled information out there is from people that are being used by "service to self" ETs in an attempt to deceive the person doing the channeling about what lies ahead. He seems convinced that first contact will be all about deception and whatever race it happens to be trying to sell us on the whole "paradise on earth" idea just to ultimately get us to sort of "idolize" them and be their willing servants. That's what I got out of it anyways.

If you are familiar with his material, any thoughts on what he says?

Myplanet2
09-17-2009, 01:28 PM
Tempestgarden. Have you taken a look at the "simple explanations of 3D, 4D, 5D" thread in the Camelot forum?

https://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16441

burgundia
09-17-2009, 02:08 PM
density/dimension then, when in the 5th?

If you are familiar with his material, any thoughts on what he says?

Careful with his material. He once admitted that he was probabaly mind-controlled or something of that nature....

TempestGarden
09-17-2009, 06:49 PM
Tempestgarden. Have you taken a look at the "simple explanations of 3D, 4D, 5D" thread in the Camelot forum?

https://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16441

I was not aware of this thread. Thanks so much for the link. I am reading through it now and it is very helpful. :original:

Noela
09-17-2009, 07:02 PM
TempestGarden - I watched the George Kavassilas videos -and was
totally enthused - initially. Since I've not been so sure.

But G.K. says, as you mention, that there is a great deal of disinformation
about - and this means we must question his information as well!

In the longrun, I feel the simpler we can be the better! Confusion is
never from a good source. Asking and trusting brings results, as
Maya as shown.

There is a sense here on Avalon, (at least in this thread) that we may
have different aspects of "truth" but we are all seeking the same thing,
and that,s what makes it so wonderful - a sense of family and that
we are going through something together.

I think when the shift comes, we will be totally amazed to meet some
of our fellow travellers - people who never heard of the things we
discuss, or perhaps heard but didn't believe them, but they are there because
their life and way of being is of a vibration that concurs with harmony.
It is not beliefs that will make the difference, but an inner way of being.

:original::original::original:

mudra
09-17-2009, 07:04 PM
TempestGarden ,

The soul shift is from mind to heart.
See , feel, breathe through your heart and you'll step into a brand new dimension .
It's not out there somewhere . It's within you right now .
The mind brings dichotomies and hence linear time.
Love is timelessness, oneness and unity .
Love is who you really are.

Love always
mudra

TempestGarden
09-17-2009, 10:07 PM
TempestGarden - I watched the George Kavassilas videos -and was
totally enthused - initially. Since I've not been so sure.

But G.K. says, as you mention, that there is a great deal of disinformation
about - and this means we must question his information as well!

In the longrun, I feel the simpler we can be the better! Confusion is
never from a good source. Asking and trusting brings results, as
Maya as shown.

There is a sense here on Avalon, (at least in this thread) that we may
have different aspects of "truth" but we are all seeking the same thing,
and that,s what makes it so wonderful - a sense of family and that
we are going through something together.

I think when the shift comes, we will be totally amazed to meet some
of our fellow travellers - people who never heard of the things we
discuss, or perhaps heard but didn't believe them, but they are there because
their life and way of being is of a vibration that concurs with harmony.
It is not beliefs that will make the difference, but an inner way of being.

:original::original::original:

Thanks for the reply and sentiment.

I don't really know anyone that I have contact with in my daily life (aside from online) who is interested in all of these topics, so it can be a challenge sometimes not knowing who to turn to for reassurance or a helping hand as it were.

I have never been good at making and keeping friends (even though I try hard!) and I really wish I had someone in my life (not online) that could assist me a little when I go through these frequent periods of confusion. I just joined the forums here, so I am confident that you and others will be able to assist me in ways that I possibly haven't experienced before, but I just think it would be awesome if I could ultimately make a connection with a person(s) face to face instead of it always being online.

Again, I don't want to diminish in any way the help provided by people like yourself online, I am merely saying that I long for that human contact in this area as in other areas of my life that I always feel has been missing for whatever reason that I can't fathom.

TempestGarden
09-17-2009, 10:10 PM
TempestGarden ,

The soul shift is from mind to heart.
See , feel, breathe through your heart and you'll step into a brand new dimension .
It's not out there somewhere . It's within you right now .
The mind brings dichotomies and hence linear time.
Love is timelessness, oneness and unity .
Love is who you really are.

Love always
mudra

Thank you for your wisdom. It is greatly appreciated! :original:

Is there something that you can tell me or perhaps a direction you can point me to that would show me techniques that I can implement that would allow me to live/breathe more through my heart? I want to make more of a transition from the intellect/ego into the heart as my primary way of living and I am not exactly sure how to achieve this.

Humble Janitor
09-17-2009, 11:47 PM
Whatever boat I'm on, it's certainly been sailing quite smoothly lately.

You need a balance when it comes to service, whether it be to yourself or to others. Always maintain a balance. I've neglected myself a bit too much lately but always room for balance.

14 Chakras
09-18-2009, 03:01 AM
TempestGarden ,

The soul shift is from mind to heart.
See , feel, breathe through your heart and you'll step into a brand new dimension .
It's not out there somewhere . It's within you right now .
The mind brings dichotomies and hence linear time.
Love is timelessness, oneness and unity .
Love is who you really are.

Love always
mudra

Ahh so nice, and Noella, HJ, TEmpest, Myplanet, 246, JAAN, BUrgy too.

We are all God's children and I AM looking forward to entering into a Golden Age with all of you.

Disagreements on details abound, but so many layers to truth... the heart of it is unconditional love... let us enter the heart chakra.

mudra
09-18-2009, 01:35 PM
Is there something that you can tell me or perhaps a direction you can point me to that would show me techniques that I can implement that would allow me to live/breathe more through my heart?

Love is all around you ..from the dew drop to the bright night stars
Take a moment to pay attention to it everyday and make that moment
wider and wider
When a reverse flow comes to you see the positive side of it
Cultivate silence within ..it will allow you to have a fresh new look on the world.
Meditate from Love and compassion and you 'll understand the times.
When things get complicated and puzzling know you are in your mind
Let go ..a litle and then a lot ..
You 'll find peace within ..
It 's simple for Love is who we are. We are all ONE.

It's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one."

- Bill Hicks


Love always
mudra

Jaan
09-22-2009, 05:18 PM
TempestGarden ,

The soul shift is from mind to heart.
See , feel, breathe through your heart and you'll step into a brand new dimension .
It's not out there somewhere . It's within you right now .
The mind brings dichotomies and hence linear time.
Love is timelessness, oneness and unity .
Love is who you really are.

Love always
mudra

thanks mudra! you made my day...!

mudra
09-23-2009, 09:07 AM
thanks mudra! you made my day...!

Great Jan I am pleased to hear :)
You make me feel like posting my words on some of
my other threads .
Who knows .. they might make their day to others too ;)

Love always
mudra

Jaan
09-23-2009, 04:11 PM
Great Jan I am pleased to hear :)
You make me feel like posting my words on some of
my other threads .
Who knows .. they might make their day to others too ;)

Love always
mudra

YES! It is impossible to follow every thread and there are some information that get lost in it all.

BigHug
Jaan

MyShadow
09-27-2009, 12:51 AM
With all respect to the OP and those that resonate with this dialogue. There are no truths, rights or wrongs here. This is a discussion about the conceptual overlay we create in our individual beliefs about the nature of our reality. Nothing more.

I'm here to offer - do you truly in your heart believe these concepts? Or are they merely a prescription of concepts (absorbed by you and prescribed from you to others) that you can point to in cataloging, codifying and justifying your experiencing this life of illusionaly chaos?

What and who would you be if none of these things were true?

I'm here with a kind and gentle "nudge" to say - we choose to be in and out of delusion - sometimes within a lifetime - sometimes across lifetimes. When we are ready we ultimately choose to to awaken to our true nature.

I know as many of you read these words, you will feel triggered in anger, resentment and righteousness to defend or justify your beliefs. My intention here is to plant a seed thay may help you to perhaps begin to lift out of the fog of confusion and delusion and remember who you really are.

This is NOT a challenge to your beliefs. It's a reminder to examine your mind, question things, seek clarity, learn more about yourself - when you are caught in the dogma of the day, when you are in ego, and when you are in the purest presence of you. Turn the page of narrow thinking and persue that bigger mind that you are truly looking for.


Blessings,

Swanny
09-27-2009, 09:53 AM
When does the boat sail and how do I get a ticket??
I'm ready to leave ASAP :boat: