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Dantheman62
06-18-2009, 04:44 AM
Pictures from the Japanese Moon Probe Kaguya...........

http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/080414-kaguya-earthrise-02.jpg
This image is a still from a high-definition April 5, 2007 video of the Earth rising above the moon as seen by Japan's Kaguya lunar orbiter. The probe was about 236,121 miles (380,000 km) away from Earth at the time. Credit: JAXA/NHK.

http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/071113-earth-setting-02.jpg
Earth-set sequence: The images shot by the HDTV onboard Kaguya on Nov. 7, 2007 show the Earth setting to the horizon near the Moon's south pole. It took about 70 seconds from the left image to the right image (complete setting). Credit: JAXA/NHK

And a video of it!.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWLw4idDxg&feature=related

Wormhole
06-18-2009, 04:59 AM
Does anyone know why these shots always show a perfectly black space behind? Is there any scientific reason why we would not see the stars? Is there any validity to the idea that they've been airbrushed, or is this just how a normal space horizon looks; always pitch black.

Beautiful images, Dan.

Curious,
Wormhole

BROOK
06-18-2009, 05:22 AM
Does anyone know why these shots always show a perfectly black space behind? Is there any scientific reason why we would not see the stars? Is there any validity to the idea that they've been airbrushed, or is this just how a normal space horizon looks; always pitch black.

Beautiful images, Dan.

Curious,
Wormhole

very good observation....wondering the same here...hmmmm :shocked:

Dantheman62
06-18-2009, 05:43 AM
It's no big deal really, I think it's just focus and/or shutter speed, or camera type.
If they wanted to show stars they would focus on stars, but since they're focusing on earth we see the earth and not the stars.
I'm definitly no expert, I'm still using my little Kodak digital camera, LOL, Woohoo!
OK, really there are no stars, we're inside of a big black box! Doh!

Wormhole
06-18-2009, 05:55 AM
but since they're focusing on earth we see the earth and not the stars.

Well, I've seen plenty of pictures from this planet which include stars as well as other things. It still beats me. I'll let you know if I come up with anything. Still, amazing photos. I'm surprised NASA didn't give you a better camera, Dan. :naughty:

Peace of Mind,
Worm

Zeddo
06-18-2009, 06:31 AM
Of the many clips, documents etc I have looked at and read this one I find really good. I have long been under the assumption that the moon landing was real and it was made out to be fake so that info was able to be suppressed.
I had the opportunity of having a face to face chat with Neil Armstrong in 1987 but unfortunately was no where near the level of wakefulness I am now and as a result, missed an incredible opportunity. What left me stunned was the one thing he did impart and that was,
Q: "Once out of the earths gravitational pull and into space proper, there was no need to communicate verbally as they were doing so telepathically. Nasa ground control had to keep asking them to verbalise what they were doing so that they knew what was happening". End Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCwCanHFFCc

At 1:10 they speak about the "no stars on the horizon anomaly".

sleepingnomore
06-18-2009, 12:45 PM
Loving these images! Thanks for posting.

Luminari
06-18-2009, 03:03 PM
Pictures from the Japanese Moon Probe Kaguya...........

http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/080414-kaguya-earthrise-02.jpg
This image is a still from a high-definition April 5, 2007 video of the Earth rising above the moon as seen by Japan's Kaguya lunar orbiter. The probe was about 236,121 miles (380,000 km) away from Earth at the time. Credit: JAXA/NHK.

http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/071113-earth-setting-02.jpg
Earth-set sequence: The images shot by the HDTV onboard Kaguya on Nov. 7, 2007 show the Earth setting to the horizon near the Moon's south pole. It took about 70 seconds from the left image to the right image (complete setting). Credit: JAXA/NHK

And a video of it!.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWLw4idDxg&feature=related

Wow thanks :shocked:

Those Japanese lenses certainly give the moon a different 'feel'.

Very crisp but soft, I like it alot.

Luminari
06-18-2009, 03:36 PM
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/20080411_kaguya_01l.jpg

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/20071107_kaguya_02l.jpg

GaiaLove
06-18-2009, 06:07 PM
Just beautiful, thanks for posting them Dan. :original:

Heres why there are no stars btw;

The stars are there and the astronauts can see them if they look away from the sun. The reason that the stars do not show up on the film is that the stars are so dim that the camera cannot gather enough of their light in a short exposure. Our eyes are a lot more sensitive to light than photographic film. A good example of this is when we take a picture with a camera that is back lighted. The photographer can plainly see the features and colors of the object(usually a relative), but when the picture is developed, only the shadow outline can be seen of the person without any features.

Any picture that you may see of stars are from time-lapse photos. To take a time-lapse photo of the stars, the shutter must be left open on the camera in order for the lens to focus enough light on the film for the image to show up. Longer times allow more photons to enter the camera and record the image. The image is built over time from the total number of photons striking the film. The dimmer the object, the longer the film must be exposed because there are fewer photons per unit of time reaching the camera than for a brighter object. The brightness of an object is directly related to the number of photons that reach a recording device such as your eye or a camera. For example, to get a decent photo of the full moon, the shutter should be open for about a second or two. To record the image of a star, the shutter must be open from several minutes to several hours in order for enough photons to hit the film and make an image. Some of the spectacular photos that are made by the large telescopes, which col As for the pictures of the astronauts, the sunlight reflecting off of them is so bright that the shutter speed of the camera has to be a fraction of a second. If the exposure was longer, the film would absorb to many photons from the astronauts and they would become 'washed out' and appear as a featureless form of white, the opposite of the underexposed 'shadow'.

Source: Matthew Allen, B.S., Physics/Calculus Teacher Saint Scholastica Academy

lindabaker
06-18-2009, 10:36 PM
thanks for posting the photo of earthrise. kinda looks like the Japanese flag...makes a good desktop background.

Wormhole
06-19-2009, 04:12 AM
Thanks Gaia,
I thought there must be a reasonable explanation!

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole