Everything Moon

[BROOK]

There are so many ideas about the importance of the moon....
Some think it's actually a large UFO...orbiting the earth. Some think it's inhabited by aliens ....

What are your thoughts about the moon? Why does it have such an effect on our lives...how does it effect our personal lives.

Some people worship it...in songs
YouTube- Moonlight Sonata

Some gaze at it in wonder....

http://somanylists.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/moon_1203061.jpg
some have great fun with it....:lmfao:



Of all the wonderment of the gazing, singing, and laughter...what do you think the major impact of the moon has on us?...Why have we not gone back there to investigate or colonize it?

Why do we howl at the moon ?
http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/howl-at-the-moon-evelyn-patrick.jpg

Let's hear some stories about the moon in all aspects....

http://www.nightskyinfo.com/sky_highlights/hunters_moon/full_moon_small.jpg

[Wormhole]

How to play, "Guess that Moon"

Take a sheet, and cut a hole in it about the size of a basketball.

While two others hold the sheet up, take turns guessing who the person is behind the hole by the shape of their moon.

Requires more then three players.
:roll1:


Best moon story: I will never forget watching kit foxes play on the hay mounds in the full moonlight. I watched them for hours one late summer evening. Everything was silver and covered with dew. It felt electric.

Moon Brew: Drink one glass of water left overnight in the moonlight for extra energy.

Cheers!
Wormhole

[BROOK]

Alright now! Dan go get the bed sheet...I'll get the scissors :mfr_lol:

Wormhole that is one funny game :lmfao::naughty:

[Dantheman62]

bwahahaha, NOT!


The full Moon name for this month is Full Strawberry Moon. The Algonquin tribes knew this Moon as a time to gather ripening strawberries. It is also known as the Rose Moon and the Hot Moon.

[Orion11]

i love it Brook, great idea!

i dont remeber who said this originally,
but it is perfect.... lol

i am a moon child, born under Cancer... Moon children withdraw themselves by instinct whenever they can't answer their own question. ...

i believe the term "MoonChild" traces back to native American roots,
but i may be wrong. lol

Ive got lots of stuff that has to do with Selene/Luna/Moon.

I also go out and study it almost every night it is out. lol

Here she is from my backyard...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3383/3514240677_89ed654b30.jpg


Ive got some new ones to that ive gotta upload, that i think are good, ill share em soon if you want.

Thanks Brook, Thanks wormhole, :wub2:

[BROOK]

On a full Moon...who comes to life?

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/t0/t797.jpg

So, what actually is werewolf or lycanthropy? Is it a fact based on concrete evidences? Is it a myth, fabrication of feeble minds? Is it an exaggeration of some other things? Well, all these questions have been puzzling mankind for last 5 centuries. Though many ingenious hypotheses have been suggested as possible explanations, definite conclusion can't be drawn. Some experts have tried to observe it as purely supernatural phenomena while others have relied on scientific observations. Contradictions and debates still persist and will continue till any single theory solves the jigsaw which seems unlikely considering complexity and diversity of the topic.
Nonetheless, the werewolf phenomenon has not perished yet; recent werewolf sightings are still reported.
The word werewolf is most likely to derive from two old-Saxon words, wer (meaning man) and wolf. Frequently used Greek terms Lycanthropy refers to the transformation process while Lycanthrope, which is in fact synonymous to werewolf, is the afflicted person. The popular definition of werewolf or lycanthrope is a man who transforms himself or being transformed into a wolf under the influence of full moon.
This web site has followed on scientific ideas while explaining possible sources and causes of werewolf legend. Popular and supernatural beliefs has been also mentioned for instant comparison. The site starts with the origin of the legend citing the oldest recorded werewolf encounter (http://members.tripod.com/alam25/first.htm). Then, portraits and transformation process (http://members.tripod.com/alam25/portrait.htm) have been sketched with a brief depiction of an alleged ritual (http://members.tripod.com/alam25/ritual.htm) as per historical documents and literatures. Some recorded French werewolf trials (http://members.tripod.com/alam25/cases.htm) have been referred for understanding the trend of general sentiment towards the phenomena during the middle ages. Most important part of the website is the possible explanations of werewolf phenomenon (http://members.tripod.com/alam25/exp.htm) where scientific explanation of lycanthropy has been discussed in details. Another uniqueness of the site is that some important items and concepts (http://members.tripod.com/alam25/inf.htm) related to werewolf has been illustrated. For further research on this topic please visit the web links or read the recommended books on the reference (http://members.tripod.com/alam25/ref.htm) page.
The site has been developed keeping you in mind. Easy navigational links are always with you wherever you go. Larger font with enough space is for your easy on-screen reading. Moreover, important points are highlighted for quick scanning of the materials. You will also find printer friendly version of each pages.
Some information on this web page has been quoted from the Time-Life Book titled Transformation. You will find details of the book on Reference (http://members.tripod.com/alam25/ref.htm) page.
This site is only the starting point of a long journey. If you like to join in, you are most welcome. Your contributions will definitely enrich this site; all worthy contributions will be updated on readers comments page. Feel free to drop any suggestion, observations or contribution through the feedback form (http://joteel.com/werewolf/form/myfeedback.htm). And don't forget to put up your comments on message board (http://joteel.com/werewolf/message/guestbook.html) for open discussion.

[Dantheman62]

During the Middle Ages, many believed that the Moon caused madness, a superstition still reflected in our word lunacy.

[Wormhole]

I find the whole idea of the moon having been "placed" in it's particular orbit to be fascinating. The concept that this environmentally conducive relationship between earth and moon was not an accident seems compelling. I am also fascinated by the idea that the moon was a "made" object. There is something archaic in me that this resonates with, though I have not a stitch of reasoning to say why on any other level then conceptual fantasy.

The Leer interviews have a bit on this subject. I can only hope that there is more evidence to view one day.

The moon however has always been a deeply powerful object of the feminine, today and since the first stone figures were unearthed in caves. The story of the sacred feminine and the moon is truly beautiful...

Peace of Mind,
Worm

[Orion11]

here is one from June 14~ During Daylight~
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3403/3637284479_225ba7d3c1_o.jpg

[Orion11]

double post, sorry.

[BROOK]

Why have we not been back?...and are there actually ruins there?

YouTube - Ruins and Alien base found on dark side of the moon pt01

[Wormhole]

Beautiful. Pictures, I mean.

Interesting Video, Brook. There is soo much that is questionable.
Orion, Have you ever seen anything interesting in those pictures of yours?

Peace of Mind,
Worm

[BROOK]

Ditto...great pics Orion :thumb_yello:

[Orion11]

yes there are ruins there,
ancient,
and modern.

[Orion11]

thanks! :wub2:

[Wormhole]

Nice cat.
What is your analysis of the ruins you've seen?

[BROOK]

Just dated today....

U.S. Shoots for the Moon, This Time to Stay



By Jeffrey Kluger (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29) Thursday, Jun. 18, 2009

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2009/0906/lunar_lander_0617.jpg
The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter or LRO (top) and the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite or LCROSS (lower) are scheduled to be launched together aboard an Atlas 5 rocket on a mission to the moon.

Say this for the U.S. space program: we may have spent the last 40 years mostly ignoring the moon, but when we go back (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1858878,00.html), we go back with a bang. Later today — if weather conditions and hardware permit — NASA will launch its much-anticipated and deeply imaginative Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO), the first American spacecraft of any kind to make a lunar trip since 1999. Not only will LRO help us study the moon in greater detail than ever before, it should also give us our first look at the six Apollo landing sites since we abandoned the historic campgrounds two generations ago.

In the last few years, the moon has once again become the hot place to go. Three countries with little spacefaring history — Japan, China and India — have all sent probes moonward since 2007, and China in particular has made it clear it plans to return, first with more robot ships, then with astronauts. (See a photo survey of the world's most competitive space programs.) (http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1737868,00.html)
In 2004, the U.S. restarted its own lunar program, when former President George W. Bush announced a new commitment to have astronauts back on the moon by 2020 and on Mars in the years after. There was surely some political motivation in Bush's election-year proposal, but it was followed up by hard-headed planning and real NASA action. With the shuttles scheduled to be mothballed by 2010, the space agency has committed itself to building and flying a lunar-capable manned ship by 2015, and though the Obama Administration is currently reconsidering the entire lunar program, so far it's still on track. The goal is to station astronauts on the moon for months, not days, to conduct lunar studies and as training for later attempts to live on Mars. As NASA knew in the 1950s, however, before you can send humans to the moon, you need to send robotic scouts. And that's where the LRO gets involved. (Video: First broadcast from the moon.) (http://www.time.com/time/video/?bcpid=1485842900&bctid=5716074001)
The 13-ft.-long, two-ton spacecraft is not designed for a landing, but rather will settle into a low lunar orbit just 30 miles (48 km) above the surface, or about half the altitude at which the Apollos flew. The ship will be fairly stuffed with scientific instruments, one of the most important — if least sexy sounding — of which will be its laser altimeter. The altimeter will bounce laser beams off the lunar surface and, by measuring the speed at which they reflect back up, calculate the moon's topography to within inches. That's critical since long-term lunar stays require finding not only hospitable places to land, but hospitable places to establish a home.
We're going to measure the topography with the level of detail civil engineers need when they're building a building," says Jim Garvin, one of the lead developers of the LRO and the chief scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, which will run the mission. Just as important for choosing where to homestead is knowing the local weather — or at least the local temperature. Nobody pretends that the moon will be a thermally comfortable place to live, but few people realize just how punishing its climate extremes are — a torch-like 250 degrees F (120 C) during the day and a paralyzing -382 F (-230 C) at night. What's more, says Garvin, "The moon goes through this dance every 28 days." Those kinds of cycling extremes can be murder on hardware, and until we know more about the hot-cold rhythm we can't build properly to withstand it.
Easily the most exciting piece of hardware aboard the ship, however — for lay lunarphiles at least — will be the camera. Even the best reconnaissance photography before the Apollo visits missed things, which is why Apollo 11's landing almost came to grief when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin found themselves piloting their lander over an unexpected boulder field just seconds before touchdown. That's less likely to happen this time, thanks to a camera that can visualize objects as small as a few feet across. What's more, since the LRO will be in a polar orbit instead of an equatorial one — or, vertical rather than horizontal — the moon's 28-day rotation will eventually carry virtually every spot on the surface beneath the camera's lens. "The moon will essentially walk around underneath the orbiter," says Garvin. "With the detail we get in the photographs, every picture will be like a mini-landing." That includes photos of the Apollo sites, all half dozen of which should have their portraits snapped. If NASA gets lucky, Garvin believes the first such images could be in hand by the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11, on July 20.
For all of LRO's versatility, one thing it can't do with much precision is look for water. That's a problem, since astronauts living on the surface will need plenty of the stuff, and bringing it all with them is out of the question. (A single pint of water weighs about a pound, and every pound you fly to the moon costs about $50,000.) LRO, however, will not be traveling alone. Launched on the same booster will be another entire spacecraft known as the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS).
Shortly after the paired ships enter space, LCROSS will separate from LRO and embark on its own trajectory toward the moon. LCROSS will lag behind, spending four months in a sweeping orbit that will carry it around both the Earth and the moon; throughout its flight, it will remain attached to its upper stage rocket, separating from it only during its final approach to the moon. The rocket stage will then speed ahead, aiming for a deliberate crash in one of several craters in the south lunar pole in which the LRO's sensors will have detected signs of water ice. The collision will send a debris plume as high as 6.2 miles (10 km) into space and the LCROSS itself, trailing four minutes behind, will fly through it. As it does, its instruments will analyze the chemistry of the plume, looking particularly for water ice, hydrocarbons and other organics that will break down as they are exposed to their first flashes of sunlight in billions of years. Shortly after that, LCROSS too will complete its suicide plunge, smashing into the ground just miles from the first impact site.
It will take about a year before the surviving LRO completes its more leisurely mission, and then another decade at least before humans are once again treading the lunar soil. LRO and LCROSS should play a big part in bringing that eventual return a little closer — and making it a lot safer.

[BROOK]

Next Full Moon dates 2009
Year Month Day Time Day of week
2009 Jan 11 03:28 Sun
2009 Feb 9 14:51 Mon
2009 Mar 11 02:40 Wed
2009 Apr 9 14:58 Thu
2009 May 9 04:03 Sat
2009 Jun 7 18:13 Sun
2009 Jul 7 09:23 Tue
2009 Aug 6 00:57 Thu
2009 Sept 4 16:05 Fri
2009 Oct 4 06:11 Sun
2009 Nov 2 19:15 Mon
2009 Dec 2 07:33 Wed
2009 Dec 31 19:15 Thu

[BROOK]

Dancing in the Moonlight....

YouTube - Thin lizzy - Dancing in the moonlight

[BROOK]

YouTube - the REAL reason why they haven't been back to the Moon




This is a really good small version of a good dvd I have...well put together

[judykott]

I just posted a lot of moon pictures and information on the 777 thread Xmen for those of you who do not make it there except once in a blue moon, here is the link
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=145876&posted=1#post145876
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1032/bluemoonb.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6184/bluemoon800.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/)

There are pictures and information on sundogs , halos , circumzenithal arcs and other phenomenon as well.

[Luminari]

This is a fascinating lecture with heaps of Moon anomalies.
Have you guys seen this one?

Extraterrestrial Archaeology by David Hatcher Childress

http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/A946D07E11A44B8CBF24EC31A99BFC7E/david-hatcher-childress-extr.aspx

http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/3755DB3C47924180A1609EC330798326/david-hatcher-childress-extr.aspx

http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/6BE7CE714389484690DFD4BF2D54966E/david-hatcher-childress-extr.aspx

http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/E3E75C6DE32D45D08B60CEFD43B81AAC/david-hatcher-childress-extr.aspx

or download the whole thing here (http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/41717469/childress?tab=summary).

[BROOK]

Good video Luminari :thumb_yello:

Very interesting and informative :wub2:

[BROOK]

http://calgary.rasc.ca/photos/banquet2009_McNish_Composite2.jpg

[BROOK]

This takes me back.....Moonchild by King Crimson

YouTube - Moonchild by King Crimson

Call her moonchild
Dancing in the shallows of a river
Lovely moonchild
Dreaming in the shadow
Of the willow.

Talking to the trees of the
Cobweb strange
Sleeping on the steps of a fountain
Waving silver wands to the
Night-birds song
Waiting for the sun on the mountain.

Shes a moonchild
Gathering the flowers in a garden.
Lovely moonchild
Drifting on the echoes of the hours.

Sailing on the wind
In a milk white gown
Dropping circle stones on a sun dial
Playing hide and seek
With the ghosts of dawn
Waiting for a smile from a sun child.

[Luminari]

YouTube - Iron maiden - Moonchild - Maiden england

[Luminari]

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/darkside.jpg
I'm trying a bottle of this next week, will let you know how it is. :original:

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/pinkfloyd-album-dark_side_of_the_mo.jpg

[BROOK]

Here's a complete copy of..

From the earth to the moon

By Jules Verne

http://books.google.com/books?id=I0MjIBsJ0_4C&dq=moon&printsec=frontcover&source=bll&ots=WQiWS1EjgS&sig=tmfxFkXSdaNYzOkdOJeR2IDo4Yg&hl=en&ei=ZW06SteDKIKHtgflxqngDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=20


Enjoy it :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

Looking up everything moon...I decided to check out the Moonies..here is some stuff I was quite unaware of...not sure how credible the source is..but it is some pretty interesting information

http://graphics.ctyme.com/gif/star.gif The Moonies http://graphics.ctyme.com/gif/star.gif

Everything you wanted to know about
Sun Myung Moon and the Unification Church
http://graphics.ctyme.com/gif/rwb_line.gif
Moonie Influence - Cult Control of the World


http://graphics.ctyme.com/jpeg/moonies.jpg (http://www.unification.net/) A lot of what I posted here are things I just read for the first time, and quite frankly, it's scary. Moon has a big ego and likes to brag. After all, the man claims to be God. However, when you spend a billion dollars to influence the press, you're going to influence the press. And clearly the Moonies have influenced the press.
What I find disturbing is the amount of influence this cult leader has over our daily lives, especially if what he cliams is true. Moon takes credit for SDI or Star Wars and he takes credit for getting George Bush (http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/bush.htm) elected president. That's a hell of a lot of foreign influence over America, especially when you consider what a loser Bush turned out to be and what a waste SDI was. It was Reagan and Bush with bad ideas like SDI that quadrupled the national debt and now 1/4 of every tax dollar we pay is to service interest on this debt. If Moon is going to take the credit then he should take the blame as well.
Moonie Myths


I'm sure you've all heard this conservative myth. "We won the cold war because we invested in Star Wars and it broke the Soviet economy trying to keep up, and they collapsed." That idea is a Moonie idea and it's a rewrite of history. The credit for the reforms in the Soviet Union go to Gorbachev who realized through his own vision that they were better off with personal freedom. Reagans hard line and "Evil Empire" statements made Gorbachev's work much harder and Reagan's work, backed by the Moonies through the Washington Times could have triggered World War III. They think they're doing the world a favor, but they're not.
They live under Rocks

The Moonies do their dirty work in secret. That have over 1000 front organizations (http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/front.htm) that they use to get money and buy influence in the media, christian organizations, and in the Republican Party. I think the best way to overcome them is to drag them out into the light and expose them for what they are. If these people are so Godly, then why do they hide behind fake organizations to defraud people? This isn't religous freedom.


I call on web masters everywhere to expose the truth about the Moonies. If you know about Moonie front organizations then post it. If you know about preachers like Jerry Falwell who's taking Moonie money then we need to let those followers know that their Christain organizations are Moonie influenced. If you know about right wing think tanks that support political candidates that are being funded by the Moonies, then lets expose them. I wonder if the Republican Party (http://www.perkel.com/politics/clinton/repub.htm) knows how much money the Moonies are spending to influence their elections, especially the primaries. It looks to me like the Moonies have hijacked the Republican Party.
The Moonies are not your friend


The Moonies are a dangerous mind control cult with millions of followers and billions of dollars. Reverend Moon is a religous nut who is trying to take over the world. Moon openly admits that he thinks he is God and he expects to be worshipped! As you read my Washington Times exerpts (http://www.perkel.com/politics/media/times.htm) from Moon's web site, you will see how deeply rooted the Moonies are in the press, the Christian evangelical movement, and the Republican Party. If you're a member of the Press, a Christian, or a Republican, this should scare the Hell out of you. Moon's biggest flaw is his ego. Most of his power comes from brainwashing and is done in secret. The best way to fight someone like Moon is to drag his butt out into the light for everyone to see. I believe in freedom of religion. If you want to be a Moonie you have a right to do so. But I also believe in free speech and a fully informed public so that people know what they're buying into. I'm I'm using my right to free speech here. Even though a person has a right to be a Moonie doesn't make it a legitimate religion. And just because you have the right to be an idiot doesn't legitimize your idiocy. A pig is still a pig even when it's set free. It's just like smoking cigarettes. Just because it's legal and you have the right to smoke, it doesn't mean you aren't going to get sick from it.


My Moonie and Related Links




The Right Wing Media Conspiracy (http://www.perkel.com/politics/media) - How the Moonies and right wing groups control the media
Moonies and the Washington Times (http://www.perkel.com/politics/media/times.htm) - The mouthpiece of Sun Myung Moon
Moonies hate Clinton (http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/clinton.htm) - Bill Clinton vs. Sun Myung Moon
Is George Bush a Moonie? (http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/bush.htm) - Bush takes $100,000 to endorse the Moonies
Inside Look at the Moonies (http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/1earth4.htm) - Great article I snagged
Moonie Front Organizations (http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/front.htm) - 1000 organization that are Moonie fronts
Consortium News (http://www.consortiumnews.com/) - Very good articles about Moonies and other right wingers
Church of Reality (http://www.churchofreality.org/) - Alternative Religion for people interested in Reality
Other Moonie and Cult Links



Understanding Cult Mind Control (http://www.shassan.com/index.htm) - Cult Awareness
Rick Ross (http://www.rickross.com/) - Great authority on cults and deprogramming.
The Moonies (http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/1earth4.html) - By Harry V. Martin and David Caul
A Weekend with the Moonies (http://www.solidrock.net/publications/moonies.html) - By Brian Anderson
KRON TV (http://www.kron.com/nc4/use/stories/moonies1.html) - The Moonies
Letter to George Bush (http://www.trancenet.org/moonism/josh1.shtml) - from Joshua Brenner, a former Moonie
Women's Federation for World Peace (http://www.rickross.com/reference/Unif3.html) - Another Moonie Front
:mfr_omg: Rather sorry I added this one...this is a creepy cult...I also noticed that most of the links I added have since been removed or destroyed ....so either this is very relevant, or utter nonsense..you decide...let's get back to the actual MOON...yikes

[BROOK]

NASA To Fire a Rocket Into the Moon: Follow it on Twitter and Facebook (http://mashable.com/2009/06/18/nasa-moon-twitter-facebook/)

June 18th, 2009 | by Stan Schroeder (http://mashable.com/author/stan-schroeder/)



Here is the mission countdown direct from NASA

http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/



http://ec.mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/lcross.jpgNASA has always done cool things, but its latest mission is really a sci-fi geek’s dream come true, as it includes flying a rocket into the moon, triggering a huge explosion.
The purpose of the mission is to discover whether there’s frozen water in the craters near the moon’s south pole. If water is indeed found, it could have very important implications for further human missions on the moon, as a potential source for oxygen (you know why we need that) and hydrogen (for rocket fuel).

You can read about the mission in detail here (http://blogs.nasa.gov/cm/blog/moon_missions.blog/posts/post_1245073749119.html), here (http://www.siliconvalley.com/ci_12590357?nclick_check=1), and here (http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/), but here’s a very short version: LCROSS (Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite) will send the Centaur rocket which helped

http://mashable.com/2009/06/18/nasa-moon-twitter-facebook/


What do you think they're really up to? Water on the MOON??? Looks like their ready to launch in about 3 hours 14 minutes from this post.

[Orion11]

they just crashed Kaguya into the moon about a week ago.

now this one coming up.

Im gonna try my hardest to get a view of at least something out of the ordinary! lol

[BROOK]

Orion...you should check out the dates and keep an eye on the timeing of it ...some pics would be great :thumb_yello:

[Anchor]

Crashing a rocket onto the moon for an experiment.

Thats annoying.

I hope it goes the way of the LHC experiment.

A..

[Dantheman62]

China's First Moon Probe Crashes to Lunar Surface

By By Tariq Malik
Senior Editor
posted: 02 March 2009
01:38 pm ET

China’s first moon probe Chang’e 1 intentionally crashed into the lunar surface on Sunday after more than year of science observations, according to state media reports.

The Chang’e 1 orbiter fired its engines to leave lunar orbit Sunday afternoon and ultimately slammed into the moon’s southern region at 4:13 p.m. Beijing Time (0813 GMT), China’s state-run Xinhua News Agency reported.

Launched in October 2007, the 5,180-pound (2,350-kg) satellite Chang’e 1 spacecraft orbited the moon for 16 months. During its flight, the spacecraft used eight onboard instruments to map the lunar surface, study its composition and depth, as well as analyze the space environment around the moon.

Chinese space officials said they planned to launch a follow-up mission — Chang’e 2 — by 2011. Chang’e 1’s intentional crash was slated to be a dry run for a potential moon landing, they said Sunday.

Chang’e 1 was a named after a Chinese goddess who, in a popular fairy tale, lives on the moon. The mission cost a reported 1.4 billion yuan (about $180 million), according to past Chinese media reports.

Officials with the China National Space Agency have said Chang’e 1 was the first wave in a three-phase plan to explore the moon with orbiters, landers and rovers.

http://www.space.com/aol/090302-china-change1-crash.html





Indian Lunar Probe Crashes On Moon Surface

By Jesus Diaz, 9:00 AM on Mon Nov 17 2008, 10,847 views


The Moon Impact Probe (MIP), one of the 11 payloads of Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft, successfully hit the lunar surface today at 20:31 hrs (8:31 pm) IST. This is the first Indian built object to reach the surface of the moon. The point of MIP’s impact was near the Moon’s South Polar Region. It may be recalled that the modern Indian space programme was initiated in 1962 when Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru was the Prime Minister of India.
Weighing 34 kg at the time of its launch onboard Chandrayaan-1, the box shaped MIP carried three instruments – a video imaging system, a radar altimeter and a mass spectrometer. The video imaging system was intended to take the pictures of the moon’s surface as MIP approached it. The radar altimeter was included to measure the rate of descent of the probe to the lunar surface. Such instruments are necessary for future lunar soft landing missions. And, the mass spectrometer was for studying the extremely thin lunar atmosphere.

MIP’s 25 minute journey to the lunar surface began with its separation from Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft at 20:06 hrs (8:06 pm) IST. This was followed by a series of automatic operations that began with the firing of its spin up rockets after achieving a safe distance of separation from Chandrayaan-1. Later, the probe slowed down with the firing of its retro rocket and started its rapid descent towards the moon’s surface. Information from the its instruments was radioed to Chandrayaan-1 by MIP. The spacecraft recorded this in its onboard memory for later readout. Finally, the probe had a hard landing on the lunar surface that terminated its functioning.

The Moon Impact Probe hit the moon last November 14 at 20:31 IST near the Moon's South Polar Region.

http://gizmodo.com/5090428/indian-lunar-probe-crashes-on-moon-surface





Japan's first lunar probe ends mission

By SHINO YUASA, AP
posted: 7 DAYS 4 HOURS AGO


TOKYO -Japan's first lunar probe made a controlled crash landing on the moon Thursday, successfully completing a 19-month mission to study the Earth's nearest neighbor, Japan's space agency said.
The remotely controlled satellite, named after the folklore princess Kaguya, had been orbiting the moon to map its surface and study its mineral distribution and gravity levels. It was dropped onto the surface of the moon at 3:25 am. (1825 GMT), the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency, or JAXA, said in a statement.
"The mission was a success. Thanks to Kaguya, we will have a very detailed map of the lunar surface," said JAXA spokesman Shinichi Sobue. The Japanese space agency will analyze data sent by Kaguya and plans to publish the results online in November.
The 55 billion yen ($560 million) lunar mission launched in September 2007 is the largest in scope and ambition since the U.S. Apollo program of the 1960s and 70s, Sobue said.
"With data from Kaguya, we hope to shed light on the evolution of the moon," Sobue said.
During the Kaguya project, Japan launched two other orbiters to relay data. One landed on the moon in February, while the other has been measuring gravity around the moon and is still in orbit. Japan launched a moon probe in 1990, but that was a flyby mission.

http://news.aol.com/article/japans-first-lunar-probe-ends-mission/522877?cid=7





Swedish probe crashes on moon

Published: 3 Sep 06 12:27 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/4769/20060903/


The Swedish-developed space probe SMART-1 crashed on the moon at 7.42am on Sunday - exactly as planned.

Astronomers around the world had urged to try to observe the spectacular conclusion to the probe, which was developed by the Swedish Space Corporation in Solna at the request of the European Space Agency.

The probe has been orbiting the moon since November 2004.

At 7.42 on Sunday morning Swedish time the probe collided with the moon's surface, the news agency AFP confirmed. The impact was calculated to have created a crater between three and ten metres in diameter.

Several of the world's biggest telescopes were trained on the moon on Sunday morning in the hope of observing the impact, either as a weak flash of light or a very big dust cloud.

The Swedish research satellite Odin was also expected to be in a position to capture the collision with its radio receivers.

The probe approached the moon at a very shallow angle and at a speed of around 2 kilometres per second. It was initially planned to take place on August 17th, but it was postponed until Sunday so that it would be visible from Earth.

The probe's objective was primarily to test solar energy technology for powering such devices, and the mission was said to have been a success. The probe also carried out a number of scietific studies with the help of newly-developed miniature instruments.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4769

[Dantheman62]

Previous human flights to the Moon. The only country to have landed astronauts on the Moon is the United States, with its Apollo series of manned missions from 1969-1972. There were nine Apollo capsule flights to the Moon between 1968 and 1972. Of those, six were landing flights.

Flew out and around the Moon, but did not land on the Moon:
Apollo 8 lunar orbiter, December 21, 1968, astronauts Borman, Lovell, Anders
Apollo 10 lunar orbiter, May 18, 1969, astronauts Stafford, Young, Cernan
Apollo 13 aborted lunar landing mission, April 11, 1970, astronauts Lovell, Haise, Swigert

Flew to the Moon and landed:
Apollo 11 lunar landing mission, July 16, 1969, astronauts Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins
Apollo 12 lunar landing mission, November 14, 1969, astronauts Conrad, Bean, Gordon
Apollo 14 lunar landing mission, January 31, 1971, astronauts Shepard, Mitchell, Roosa
Apollo 15 lunar landing mission, July 26, 1971, astronauts Scott, Irwin, Worden
Apollo 16 lunar landing mission, April 16, 1972, astronauts Young, Duke, Mattingly
Apollo 17 lunar landing mission, December 7, 1972, astronauts Cernan, Schmitt, Evans

Each Apollo flight to the Moon carried three persons. On each landing flight, two persons flew down to the lunar surface in a small Lunar Excursion Module (LEM), while one astronaut stayed in the Apollo capsule orbiting above the Moon.

[BROOK]

Crashing a rocket onto the moon for an experiment.

Thats annoying.

I hope it goes the way of the LHC experiment.

A..

Well...if it's true that the moon is actually a giant UFO..then my guess it won't even make it there :thumb_yello:

[Dantheman62]

nevermind, couldn't post a picture, LOL

[Orion11]

i will for sure Brook! :)

yea, what is with all of the crashing things into the moon recently? lol

anyone remember some of the old tests done , where the moon would "ring" like a bell when struck, and that suggests the Moon is actually hollow?

what if it really is hollow? lol

they just keep crashing enormous things into it at enormous speeds,

maybe they should be more careful. lol

I used to have dreams about stuf like this,
and in the dreams a huge part of the moon actually broke off
and things got crazy. lol

i hope they dont break the Moon... i would cry.

then we'd all die. lol

:wub2:

[Orion11]

http://www.impactlab.com/2009/06/18/nasa-plans-to-fire-a-rocket-into-the-moon/

[BROOK]

i will for sure Brook! :)

yea, what is with all of the crashing things into the moon recently? lol

anyone remember some of the old tests done , where the moon would "ring" like a bell when struck, and that suggests the Moon is actually hollow?

what if it really is hollow? lol

they just keep crashing enormous things into it at enormous speeds,

maybe they should be more careful. lol

I used to have dreams about stuf like this,
and in the dreams a huge part of the moon actually broke off
and things got crazy. lol

i hope they dont break the Moon... i would cry.

then we'd all die. lol

:wub2:

what if it really is a big UFO :shocked:

I would cry too :tears:

[BROOK]

http://www.impactlab.com/2009/06/18/nasa-plans-to-fire-a-rocket-into-the-moon/

You know, that has got to be one REALLY BIG bomb to create a
6 mile high explosion ! :mfr_omg:

[Orion11]

mmhmm

crazy i say!

[BROOK]

bwahahaha, NOT!


The full Moon name for this month is Full Strawberry Moon. The Algonquin tribes knew this Moon as a time to gather ripening strawberries. It is also known as the Rose Moon and the Hot Moon.

Hay Dan...I found your strawberry moon ! :lol3:
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What...you don't wanna play?? :lmfao:

[Dantheman62]

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[Dantheman62]

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[BROOK]

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:mfr_lol: :lmao: :naughty:

[BROOK]

Halliburton on the moon

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Swan moon
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[Luminari]

what if it really is a big UFO :shocked:

I would cry too :tears:

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Amazon.com: Who Built the Moon?: Christopher Knight, Alan Butler: Books

[Luminari]

After hundreds of years of detailed observation and study, our closest companion in the vast universe, Earth’s moon, remains an enigma. Six moon landings and hundreds of experiments have resulted in more questions being asked than answered. Among them:

1. Moon’s Age: The moon is far older than previously expected. Maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old; moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they were resting was at least another billion years older.

2. Rock’s Origin: The chemical composition of the dust upon which the rocks sat differed remarkably from the rocks themselves, contrary to accepted theories that the dust resulted from weathering and breakup of the rocks themselves. The rocks had to have come from somewhere else.

3. Heavier Elements on Surface: Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. According to Wilson, "The abundance of refractory elements like titanium in the surface areas is so pronounced that several geologists proposed the refractory compounds were brought to the moon’s surface in great quantity in some unknown way. They don’t know how, but that it was done cannot be questioned." (Emphasis added).

4. Water Vapor: On March 7, 1971, lunar instruments placed by the astronauts recorded a vapor cloud of water passing across the surface of the moon. The cloud lasted 14 hours and covered an area of about 100 square miles.

5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a "close call" with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart.

6. No Volcanoes: Some of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.

7. Moon Mascons: Mascons, which are large, dense, circular masses lying twenty to forty miles beneath the centers of the moon’s maria, "are broad, disk-shaped objects that could be possibly some kind of artificial construction. For huge circular disks are not likely to be beneath each huge maria, centered like bull’s-eyes in the middle of each, by coincidence or accident." (Emphasis added).

8. Seismic Activity: Hundreds of "moonquakes" are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. In November, 1958, Soviet astronomer Nikolay A. Kozyrev of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory photographed a gaseous eruption of the moon near the crater Alphonsus. He also detected a reddish glow that lasted for about an hour. In 1963, astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region. These observations have proved to be precisely identical and periodical, repeating themselves as the moon moves closer to the Earth. These are probably not natural phenomena.

9. Hollow Moon: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere." Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity." MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote, "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field . . . indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow." In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

10. Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.

11. Unusual Metals: The moon’s crust is much harder than presumed. Remember the extreme difficulty the astronauts encountered when they tried to drill into the maria? Surprise! The maria is composed primarily illeminite, a mineral containing large amounts of titanium, the same metal used to fabricate the hulls of deep-diving submarines and the skin of the SR-71 "Blackbird". Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not found in nature on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks, as were rustproof iron particles.

12. Moon’s Origin: Before the astronauts’ moon rocks conclusively disproved the theory, the moon was believed to have originated when a chunk of Earth broke off eons ago (who knows from where?). Another theory was that the moon was created from leftover "space dust" remaining after the Earth was created. Analysis of the composition of moon rocks disproved this theory also. Another popular theory is that the moon was somehow "captured" by the Earth’s gravitational attraction. But no evidence exists to support this theory. Isaac Asimov, stated, "It’s too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the moon then having taken up nearly circular orbit around our Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible."

13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.

14. Moon Diameter: How does one explain the "coincidence" that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Again, Isaac Asimov responds, "There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion."

15. Spaceship Moon: As outrageous as the Moon-Is-a-Spaceship Theory is, all of the above items are resolved if one assumes that the moon is a gigantic extraterrestrial craft, brought here eons ago by intelligent beings. This is the only theory that is supported by all of the data, and there are no data that contradict this theory.

Greek authors Aristotle and Plutarch, and Roman authors Apolllonius Rhodius and Ovid all wrote of a group of people called the Proselenes who lived in the central mountainous area of Greece called Arcadia The Proselenes claimed title to this area because their forebears were there "before there was a moon in the heavens." This claim is substantiated by symbols on the wall of the Courtyard of Kalasasaya, near the city of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia, which record that the moon came into orbit around the Earth between 11,500 and 13,000 years ago, long before recorded history.

Ages of Flashes: Aristarchus, Plato, Eratosthenes, Biela, Rabbi Levi, and Posidonius all reported anomalous lights on the moon. NASA, one year before the first lunar landing, reported 570+ lights and flashes were observed on the moon from 1540 to 1967.

Operation Moon Blink: NASA’s Operation Moon Blink detected 28 lunar events in a relatively short period of time.

Lunar Bridge: On July 29, 1953, John J. O’Neill observed a 12-mile-long bridge straddling the crater Mare Crisium. In August, British astronomer Dr. H.P. Wilkens verified its presence, "It looks artificial. It’s almost incredible that such a thing could have been formed in the first instance, or if it was formed, could have lasted during the ages in which the moon has been in existence.

The Shard: The Shard, an obelisk-shaped object that towers 1½ miles from the Ukert area of the moon’s surface, was discovered by Orbiter 3 in 1968. Dr. Bruce Cornet, who studied the amazing photographs, stated, "No known natural process can explain such a structure."

The Tower: One of the most curious features ever photographed on the Lunar surface (Lunar Orbiter photograph III-84M) is an amazing spire that rises more than 5 miles from the Sinus Medii region of the lunar surface.

The Obelisks: Lunar Orbiter II took several photographs in November 1966 that showed several obelisks, one of which was more than 150 feet tall. ". . . the spires were arranged in precisely the same was as the apices of the three great pyramids."

[BROOK]

Moon secrets revealed John Lear and Richard Hoagland


Part 1
YouTube - Moon Secrets Revealed : John Lear & Richard Hoagland Pt.1

Part 2

YouTube - Moon Secrets Revealed : John Lear & Richard Hoagland Pt.2

[BROOK]

Mining the Moon

BY William Stone // June 2009
This is part of IEEE Spectrum's Special Report: Why Mars? Why Now? (http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/mars)
Planetary geologists speculate that the moon’s polar craters may hold billions of tons of hydrogen, perhaps even in the form of water ice. Intriguing evidence returned by the Lunar Prospector and the Clementine probes in the 1990s seemed to support this idea. The latest raft of lunar missions, including Chandrayaan-1 and the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, may confirm it. In situ prospecting could then determine the quantity, quality, and accessibility of the hydrogen.
Discovering rich concentrations of hydrogen on the moon would open up a universe of possibilities—literally. Rocket fuels and consumables that now cost an average of US $10 000 per kilogram to loft could instead be produced on the moon much more cheaply. For the first time, access to space would be truly economical. At last, people would be able to begin new ventures, including space tourism, space-debris cleanup, satellite refueling, and interplanetary voyages.

Lunar prospecting will cost a lot of money—perhaps $20 billion over a decade. Rovers would have to descend into the polar craters to sample the deposits and test for ice, and then move on to other spots to form an overall map, much as wildcatters do every day in oil fields. At the moment, no country seems eager to foot the bill. But where governments fail to act on a vitally important opportunity, the private sector can and should step in.
Two years ago, I and a group of like-minded businessmen, expeditionary explorers, and space-systems managers and engineers formed the Shackleton Energy Co. in Del Valle, Texas, to conduct lunar prospecting. Should we find significant reserves of ice, we would then establish a network of refueling service stations in low Earth orbit and on the moon to process and provide fuel and consumables. Like modern highway service stations, these celestial stations would be able to refuel space vehicles of all kinds and would be positioned at key transportation nodes; an obvious spot would be near the International Space Station.
Such stations would radically change the way nearly every space system is designed. No longer would you have to carry your fuel and water into orbit with you. Entirely new classes of space vehicles would become possible, ones that operate only at and beyond low Earth orbit, such as vehicles for orbital transfer and satellite repair. Today launch systems must be designed to withstand the punishing effects of high-speed atmospheric drag, pressure, vibration, and heating that occur on the way to space. Protecting the rocket and its payload adds enormously to launch costs. But a vehicle that is designed from the start to operate only in space—say, between low Earth orbit and the moon—is not bound by the same design rules.
We would also be able to clear up the ever-growing space debris problem. There’d be plenty of fuel for maneuvering satellites and other spacecraft to avoid debris, and you could also deploy cleanup vehicles to remove obsolete materials from orbit. Within a decade or two, we would soon see the dawn of a new age of space exploration, space tourism, and space business ventures.


So where exactly is the raw material, and how will we retrieve it? The most likely place to look is within the regolith—the loose surface material—at the bottom of lunar craters, such as Shackleton Crater at the moon’s south pole. The cold interior of this crater may act as a trap that captures volatiles like water and hydrogen, which scientists believe may have been shed by comets and asteroids that collided with the moon. In the 1990s, the Lunar Prospector spacecraft sensed unexpectedly high amounts of hydrogen in the polar regions, which may indicate the presence of water ice. NASA has considered Shackleton Crater as the site for the first lunar outpost under its Constellation program, which envisions returning astronauts to the moon by 2020.
Assuming the ice exists and can be extracted, our plan calls for establishing a fuel-processing operation on the lunar surface. The first step would be to melt the ice and purify the water. Next, we’d electrolyze the water into gaseous hydrogen and oxygen, and then condense the gases into liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen and also process them into hydrogen peroxide, all of which could be used as rocket fuels. Should other volatiles like ammonia or methane be discovered, they, too, would be processed into fuel, fertilizer, and other useful products.
Getting the fuels and other consumables from the moon into low Earth orbit will be relatively cheap. Because of the peculiarities of celestial mechanics, such a haul requires just 1/14th to 1/20th of the fuel it takes to bring material up from Earth.
Prospecting within the crater won’t be easy, of course. It’s extremely cold (a steady −173 °C) and perpetually dark—like an Antarctic winter but worse, because it’s constant. Also, the moon’s low gravitational field makes excavating that much trickier than it is back on Earth. Our plan therefore calls for developing a new generation of highly reliable, human-tended robotic machinery that would be built to withstand even that harsh environment. We think it can be done. We won’t know unless we try.


hree elements are essential for the commercial success of our operation. First, to save about $1 billion during the initial staging of the lunar mining base, the first human team will take only enough fuel to land and establish the base—not enough for a return trip to Earth. This may sound radical, but the human crew who will undertake this mission will do so knowing that their success and survival depend on in situ fuel generation for the return. Should they fail, theirs will be a one-way trip; the risk is theirs to take. For government-sponsored space agencies, such a concept is unthinkable; they cannot tolerate the political risk of failure. Yet it is the only viable business choice. Centuries of explorers made the same hard choice in pushing the limits on land, sea, and air. It’s time to carry it forward into space. This is not reckless bravado but calculated risk management to satisfy mission needs and affordability.
Second, we need a relatively inexpensive means of returning to low Earth orbit. To do that involves the dissipation of nearly 3 kilometers per second of excess velocity. Decelerating with rocket propellant alone would be prohibitively expensive—we’d be ”eating the seed corn.” So we plan to do it with actively controlled aerobraking. The water-laden spacecraft will repeatedly dip into and skip out of the upper atmosphere, losing some velocity with each dip, until it ultimately ends up in the orbit of the fueling station. This same maneuver was previously used only for much smaller planetary robotic missions, such as Magellan and the Mars Global Surveyor, but the physics and engineering are well understood. We intend to take the concept to an industrial scale, which would have obvious applications for other space missions.
Third, we plan to rely on inflatable structures. Constructed of multilayer fabrics shielded with Kevlar or other strong materials and banded by steel exoskeletons, these structures could provide most of our habitation, storage, and transportation requirements. They would be both lighter and less expensive than traditional spacecraft. A number of companies have done extensive R&D on such inflatable space structures, including Boeing and Bigelow Aerospace, which has even lofted two test modules to low Earth orbit.


Reliance on such technologies will decrease the cost of our operation, but it still will not be cheap. We estimate that establishing a lunar mining outpost and low-Earth-orbit fueling network will cost about $20 billion and take about a decade to put in place. That may sound like a lot, but in terms of complexity it’s comparable to a North Sea oil production complex. And it’s just a third of what the state-owned oil company Saudi Aramco said it will spend on oil and gas projects over the next five years.
We live in interesting times. Right now, the technology, opportunity, and need to undertake such a mission are converging. Global tensions over resources, energy, and the environmental balance will only intensify in the coming years. New technologies may solve some of these problems, but ultimately we must look further afield for answers.
The Shackleton project offers a solution. We seek the boldest and most imaginative managers, policy makers, investors, engineers, and explorers to partner with us and to ignite the Earth-moon economy. It is time for the private sector to take the lead in creating new markets and expanding humanity’s presence in space. Governments cannot and will not do it by themselves anytime soon. Our company is prepared to open up space to those who have the vision, stamina, and wherewithal to make it a reality. Join us!
For more articles, go to Special Report: Why Mars? Why Now? (http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/mars)
About the Author

William Stone is an aerospace engineer and explorer. He serves as the chairman of Shackleton Energy Co., based in Del Valle, Texas.


http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/space-flight/mining-the-moon

[BROOK]

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The Moon

XVIII – Here we see dogs barking at the Moon, one is light and one is dark, the crab comes from the water to join them. Two towers in the background, the creek running through the land into the mountains. Quite a lovely and calming scene, this describes what the Moon brings us. The quiet calm, the Moon and the water both reminds us of the tides and the fact that we are all of us very dependent on the ebb and flow of life, as well as the polarities such as negative and positive. The Moon is a reminder of these things and how they are necessary in life.

The Moon is also a reflection of the Sun; it is the reflective or the female side. Often the Sun is thought of as masculine and the Moon then represents the feminine. The Moon is said to be associated with dreams and the night. It also indicates a sensitivity that can be very psychic or intuitive, particularly when it comes to emotions. With this energy there is a mediumistic or psychic ability. We all have this in us, but there are times when each of us will be more sensitive then others.

In the right side up position, the Moon can indicate that the person being read can count on their gut, that their own intuitive ability could be very clear at this time. This is when you can assure or be assured that you already know on a visceral level what is going on or what it is that you need to do.

Upside down, you would have the opposite situation. Here the person being read is going through some kind of storm or turmoil and as a result they have no intuitive ability, they cannot trust what they are feeling inside, if they even feel anything of any clarity at all. These are usually those times when we feel that there is no clarity to what is happening to us. We feel like a ship that has done a drift and how things will work out is beyond our understanding.

This is a great card for meditation to deepen your clarity or understanding. It can be a great meditation to work on your dream life, (the ones you have while sleeping.) This can be a good card for understanding not only the cycles of life, but also how the unconscious level or the intuitive level of ourselves can have a greater strength in our evolution as humankind. To understand the power and the greatness of what can sometimes be called the darker realms of our existence. How being reflective and sensitive can greatly enhance our lives and help us to remain even more conscious an awake in our daily lives.

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[Luminari]

Lunacy! Moon Madness I say watson, what brings on this sudden Lunar Obsession of Lunaphilic Luminosity?

I vaguely remember a dream (or was it) from last night involving a beautiful starship in the sky and lights moving and blinking on the moon. Wish I had full recall. :wink2:

[BROOK]

Lunacy! Moon Madness I say watson, what brings on this sudden Lunar Obsession of Lunaphilic Luminosity?

I vaguely remember a dream (or was it) from last night involving a beautiful starship in the sky and lights moving and blinking on the moon. Wish I had full recall. :wink2:

It's the first step out into the universe :thumb_yello: Lunatic Fringe

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[orthodoxymoron]

Has anyone provided a reasonable explanation as to why the moon does not spin...and always presents the same side to Earth? The moon is completely different than Earth...which suggests that it's not from around here. The moon is approximately the same visual size as the sun...allowing total solar eclipses to occur. Then there is that creepy full moon effect...which is hard to deny...and which may have a creepy explanation. Plus...it is very, very strange that we were in such a hurry to go to the moon...and then stopped going after just a few missions(if we really went!). And what about all of the craters? Have we seen any new craters in the centuries of observation? Could the craters be the result of millions of years of countless wars?

It wouldn't surprise me if most of the planets and moons in this solar system contained subsurface bases...inhabited by a variety of races...human and non-human. Maybe they are just waiting for us to blow ourselves up...so they can move in. Maybe they are placing bets. What do you think our odds of survival are?

[BROOK]

Has anyone provided a reasonable explanation as to why the moon does not spin...and always presents the same side to Earth? The moon is completely different than Earth...which suggests that it's not from around here. The moon is approximately the same visual size as the sun...allowing total solar eclipses to occur. Then there is that creepy full moon effect...which is hard to deny...and which may have a creepy explanation. Plus...it is very, very strange that we were in such a hurry to go to the moon...and then stopped going after just a few missions(if we really went!). And what about all of the craters? Have we seen any new craters in the centuries of observation? Could the craters be the result of millions of years of countless wars?

It wouldn't surprise me if most of the planets and moons in this solar system contained subsurface bases...inhabited by a variety of races...human and non-human. Maybe they are just waiting for us to blow ourselves up...so they can move in. Maybe they are placing bets. What do you think our odds of survival are?

They must think we're Lunatics :lmfao:

[Luminari]

the moon is a gigantic extraterrestrial craft, brought here eons ago by intelligent beings. This is the only theory that is supported by all of the data, and there are no data that contradict this theory..

..symbols on the wall of the Courtyard of Kalasasaya, near the city of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia, which record that the moon came into orbit around the Earth between 11,500 and 13,000 years ago.


:wink2:

[Orion11]

..symbols on the wall of the Courtyard of Kalasasaya, near the city of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia, which record that the moon came into orbit around the Earth between 11,500 and 13,000 years ago.

that is interesting for sure!! thanks!

got some stuff to look up.. lol :wub2:

[Dantheman62]

Yes Orthodoxymoron, the moon rotates!..................

Be a little careful . . . the Moon does rotate. If you stood on the Moon, the stars would rise and set, just like they do on Earth, except that a lunar day is a month long, the same as the Moon's orbital period. The Moon rotates at just the right speed so that it always keeps one face pointed toward the Earth, which seems like a pretty big coincidence, doesn't it?

Your question is very interesting because the answer is that, no, the Moon is not unique. Almost all moons in the Solar System keep one face pointed toward their planet. (The only exception we know of is Hyperion, a moon of Saturn.) This tells us it's probably not a coincidence, that there is probably a reason for this to happen, a physical process that happens to most moons to slow their rotation.

That process is called tidal friction. You probably know that the Moon's gravity affects the Earth's oceans. Well, the Earth's gravity also affects the Moon. It distorts the Moon's shape slightly, squashing it out so that it is elongated along a line that points toward the Earth. We say that the Earth raises "tidal bulges" on the Moon.


The Earth's gravity pulls on the closest tidal bulge, trying to keep it aligned with Earth. As the Moon turns, feeling the Earth's gravity, this creates friction within the Moon, slowing the Moon's rotation down until its rotation matches its orbital period exactly, a state we call tidal synchronization. In this state, the Moon's tidal bulge is always aligned with Earth, which means that the Moon always keeps one face toward Earth.

Other planets raise tides on their moons, too, so almost all the moons in the Solar System are tidally synchronized. There's even one planet that is sychronized to its moon! Charon, Pluto's moon, is so large and so close to Pluto that the planet and moon are both locked into the same rotational rate. The Moon slows the Earth's rotation, too, but at a very slow rate, increasing the length of the day by a couple of milliseconds each century.

You might be wondering what's up with Hyperion. Gravitational interaction with other moons of Saturn cause Hyperion to tumble chaotically, so Saturn doesn't even get a chance at tidal synchronization before Hyperion's rotational state is changed by another moon. There may be other small moons that behave in this manner, as well, but it is difficult to measure the rotational periods of small moons around distant planets, so we don't know of any yet.



I think all the craters are there because it has no atmosphere to protect it, like we do.
Most everything that hits us gets burned up in the atmosphere before it hits.

[Orion11]

whole mess of stuff... :mfr_omg: :mfr_lol:

STRANGE MOON FACTS

link (http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=6496)

The moon is the Rosetta stone of the planets." —Robert Jastrow, First Chairman, NASA Lunar Exploration Committee

After hundreds of years of detailed observation and study, our closest companion in the vast universe, Earth’s moon, remains an enigma. Six moon landings and hundreds of experiments have resulted in more questions being asked than answered. Among them:

1. Moon’s Age: The moon is far older than previously expected. Maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old; moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they were resting was at least another billion years older.

2. Rock’s Origin: The chemical composition of the dust upon which the rocks sat differed remarkably from the rocks themselves, contrary to accepted theories that the dust resulted from weathering and breakup of the rocks themselves. The rocks had to have come from somewhere else.

3. Heavier Elements on Surface: Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. According to Wilson, "The abundance of refractory elements like titanium in the surface areas is so pronounced that several geologists proposed the refractory compounds were brought to the moon’s surface in great quantity in some unknown way. They don’t know how, but that it was done cannot be questioned." (Emphasis added).

4. Water Vapor: On March 7, 1971, lunar instruments placed by the astronauts recorded a vapor cloud of water passing across the surface of the moon. The cloud lasted 14 hours and covered an area of about 100 square miles.

5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a "close call" with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart.

6. No Volcanoes: Some of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.

7. Moon Mascons: Mascons, which are large, dense, circular masses lying twenty to forty miles beneath the centers of the moon’s maria, "are broad, disk-shaped objects that could be possibly some kind of artificial construction. For huge circular disks are not likely to be beneath each huge maria, centered like bull’s-eyes in the middle of each, by coincidence or accident." (Emphasis added).

8. Seismic Activity: Hundreds of "moonquakes" are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. In November, 1958, Soviet astronomer Nikolay A. Kozyrev of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory photographed a gaseous eruption of the moon near the crater Alphonsus. He also detected a reddish glow that lasted for about an hour. In 1963, astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region. These observations have proved to be precisely identical and periodical, repeating themselves as the moon moves closer to the Earth. These are probably not natural phenomena.

9. Hollow Moon: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere." Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity." MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote, "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field . . . indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow." In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

10. Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.

11. Unusual Metals: The moon’s crust is much harder than presumed. Remember the extreme difficulty the astronauts encountered when they tried to drill into the maria? Surprise! The maria is composed primarily illeminite, a mineral containing large amounts of titanium, the same metal used to fabricate the hulls of deep-diving submarines and the skin of the SR-71 "Blackbird". Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not found in nature on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks, as were rustproof iron particles.

12. Moon’s Origin: Before the astronauts’ moon rocks conclusively disproved the theory, the moon was believed to have originated when a chunk of Earth broke off eons ago (who knows from where?). Another theory was that the moon was created from leftover "space dust" remaining after the Earth was created. Analysis of the composition of moon rocks disproved this theory also. Another popular theory is that the moon was somehow "captured" by the Earth’s gravitational attraction. But no evidence exists to support this theory. Isaac Asimov, stated, "It’s too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the moon then having taken up nearly circular orbit around our Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible."

13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.

14. Moon Diameter: How does one explain the "coincidence" that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Again, Isaac Asimov responds, "There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion."

15. Spaceship Moon: As outrageous as the Moon-Is-a-Spaceship Theory is, all of the above items are resolved if one assumes that the moon is a gigantic extraterrestrial craft, brought here eons ago by intelligent beings. This is the only theory that is supported by all of the data, and there are no data that contradict this theory.

Greek authors Aristotle and Plutarch, and Roman authors Apolllonius Rhodius and Ovid all wrote of a group of people called the Proselenes who lived in the central mountainous area of Greece called Arcadia The Proselenes claimed title to this area because their forebears were there "before there was a moon in the heavens." This claim is substantiated by symbols on the wall of the Courtyard of Kalasasaya, near the city of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia, which record that the moon came into orbit around the Earth between 11,500 and 13, 000 years ago, long before recorded history.

1. Ages of Flashes: Aristarchus, Plato, Eratosthenes, Biela, Rabbi Levi, and Posidonius all reported anomalous lights on the moon. NASA, one year before the first lunar landing, reported 570+ lights and flashes were observed on the moon from 1540 to 1967.

2. Operation Moon Blink: NASA’s Operation Moon Blink detected 28 lunar events in a relatively short period of time.

3. Lunar Bridge: On July 29, 1953, John J. O’Neill observed a 12-mile-long bridge straddling the crater Mare Crisium. In August, British astronomer Dr. H.P. Wilkens verified its presence, "It looks artificial. It’s almost incredible that such a thing could have been formed in the first instance, or if it was formed, could have lasted during the ages in which the moon has been in existence.

4. The Shard: The Shard, an obelisk-shaped object that towers 1½ miles from the Ukert area of the moon’s surface, was discovered by Orbiter

3 in 1968. Dr. Bruce Cornet, who studied the amazing photographs, stated, "No known natural process can explain such a structure."

5. The Tower: One of the most curious features ever photographed on the Lunar surface (Lunar Orbiter photograph III-84M) is an amazing spire that rises more than 5 miles from the Sinus Medii region of the lunar surface.

6. The Obelisks: Lunar Orbiter II took several photographs in November 1966 that showed several obelisks, one of which was more than 150 feet tall. ". . . the spires were arranged in precisely the same was as the apices of the three great pyramids."

Don Ecker, Long Saga of Lunar Anomalies, UFO magazine, Vol. 10, Nol 2 (March/April 1995), p. 23.
Six Mysterious Statuesque Shadows Photographed on the Moon by Orbiter, The Washington Post, Nov. 22, 1966, p. 1.



SPACECONSPIRACY: Moon, where are you from?

By Yingzhong Lu, selected from The Crown, 499, September 1995

When did the moon first accompany our earth?
Perhaps it has been
looking at the earth long before human beings appeared on earth. People say
that there is a Freezing-Cold Palace on the moon where an ancient beauty
named Chang-E lives, along with a white rabbit and a man called Wu Gang,
whose daily work is to chop cassia trees. Nonetheless, the American
astronauts from the Apollo 11 mission to the moon on July 19, 1969 did not
see the Freezing-Cold Palace, nor Lady Chang-E and her rabbit, nor Wu Gang
and his cassia trees. Many of us charmed by the legend were somewhat
disappointed by the scientific findings.

Twenty-six years have passed since the first moon landing, yet human
beings are no wiser than before about the moon. On the contrary, scientists
are now perplexed by the data gathered by the instruments left on the moon.

When we look at the moon at night, we a have familiar yet strange feeling.
We can't help but ask, "Dear moon, could you tell us about your true self?"
At present, there are three theories to explain how the moon
originated. The first one is that the dust and gaseous clouds from the
universe formed the moon, just like our earth, 4.6 billion years ago. The
second theory is that the moon was thrown off from the earth and the Pacific
Ocean is the place from which it came. The third theory believes that the
moon was an independent planet that was captured by the earth's
gravitational force when passing by, and it has been revolving around the
earth ever since.

Most scientists initially believed in the first theory, although some
favoured the second one. Yet, analysis of the moon soil samples brought
back by astronauts indicates that the composition of the moon is different
from that of the earth. The earth has more iron and less silicon deposited
in it, while the moon is just the opposite. In addition, the earth has very
few titanium ores, whereas the moon has many. These findings show that the
moon was not separated from the earth. By the same token, the first
hypothesis is also shaky. If the moon and earth were formed through the
same process, at around the same time, then why are they so different in
their composition? Scientists have abandoned the first theory, which leaves
only the last theory. If the moon entered the solar system from outer
space, it should have flown towards the Sun instead of being held by the
earth, because of the sun's much stronger gravitational pull.
None of the three hypotheses proposed by orthodox scientists answers
all of the questions or holds up to scrutiny. The origin of the moon still
remains a mystery. There is plenty of room for people to propose new
theories on the origin of the moon. No matter how ridiculous the theories
may seem, they should not be lightly labeled nonscientific.

The Peculiar Phenomena Between the Sun, Earth, and Moon

Let's take a look at and think about some of the unbelievably peculiar
astronomical phenomena that occur between the sun, earth and moon.
The average distance between the earth and the moon is 380,000 km, and
between the sun and the earth is about 150,000,000 km. The latter is about
395 times further than the former. The diameter of the sun is about
1,380,000 km, while that of the moon is 3,400 km; the ratio of the two is
again 395 times greater. Both ratios are 395. Could it be a coincidence?
What does it mean?
Please think about it. The sun is 395 times larger than the moon, yet
it is 395 times farther away from the earth than the moon. The two appear
the same size when seen from earth because of the distance differences.

Is this a natural or artificial phenomenon? Where in the universe can one find
three celestial bodies with this kind of coincidence?

The two planets shine on the earth in turns, one during the day and
the other at night. There is not another example of such phenomena in our
solar system. The prestigious scientist, Isaac Asimov, once said that,
according to all the data available, the moon in principle should not exist
in that position. He also said, "The moon is big enough to result in a
solar eclipse, yet small enough to generate corona. Our astronomy just
can't explain the coincidence among the coincidences."

Is it really a coincidence? Not really, according to some scientists.
William R. Sheldon, a scientist, said, "In order to orbit around the earth,
a spaceship has to maintain a velocity of 10,800 miles per hour at a height
of 100 miles. Similarly, in order for the moon to keep itself in its orbit
to balance the earth's gravitational force, it also needs accurate velocity,
self-weight, and altitude." The question is: if the current set of
conditions is impossible to achieve by nature, why are they this way?

It's Too Big to be a Satellite

There are several planets in the solar system that have naturally
occurring satellites. However, the moon is unnaturally large for a
satellite. It is too large in comparison to its parent planet. Let us take
a look at the following data. The earth's diameter is 12,756 km; the moon's
is 3,467 km, which is about 27% that of the earth's. Mars' diameter is
6,787 km. Mars has two satellites. The larger one has a diameter of 23 km,
about 0.34% that of Mars. Jupiter's diameter is 142,800 km. It has 13
satellites. The largest one has a diameter of 5,000 km, which is 3.5% of
Jupiter's. Saturn's diameter is 120,000 km. It has 23 satellites. The
largest one has a diameter of 4,500 km, which is about 3.75% of Saturn's
diameter. None of the satellites has a diameter exceeding 5% of the parent
planet's diameter, but the moon's is 27% of the earth's diameter. Isn't the
moon unnaturally large by comparison? The data indeed indicates that the
moon is extraordinary.

The Meteorite Craters Are All Too Shallow

Scientists tell us that the craters on the surface of the moon were
caused by the impact of meteors or comets. There are also meteorite craters
on earth. According to scientific calculations, if a meteorite of several
miles in diameter hits the earth or the moon at a speed of 30,000 miles per
second, which is equivalent to one million tons of dynamite, the depth of
the crater it creates should be four to five times that of its diameter.
The meteorite craters on earth prove this to be correct. Yet the craters on
the moon are strangely shallow. For example, Gagrin Crater, the deepest
one, is only four miles deep, although its diameter is 186 miles. With a
diameter of 186 miles, the depth of the crater should be at least 700 miles,
instead of 4 miles, which is just 12% of the diameter. This is another
scientific impossibility.
Why is it so? Astronomers are unable to come up with a perfect
explanation and they don't seem to want to either. They know that a perfect
explanation would overturn established theories. The only explanation is
that the moon's crust is composed of a very hard substance four miles
beneath the surface. The meteorites have failed to penetrate this hard
layer. Then, what is the very hard substance?

Metals Whose Existence is Impossible

It is not strange that the moon craters have a great deal of lava.
What is strange is that the lava contains rich metal elements such as
titanium, chromium, yttrium, etc., which are rarely found on earth. Those
metals are all very hard and resistant to both high temperatures and
corrosion. Scientists estimate that it requires 2000-3000( C to melt these
metals. But the moon has been a dead and cold planet without volcanic
activity for three billion years. How did the moon generate so many kinds
of metals that require such high temperatures to melt? Moreover, analysis
of the 380 kg of moon soil samples brought back by astronauts shows that
there is pure iron and pure titanium. Such pure metal deposits just aren't
found under natural conditions.
What do the unexplainable facts tell us? They have undoubtedly
demonstrated that these metal elements were not formed under natural
conditions, but were extracted. Then the questions is by whom and when?

The Side that Can't Be Seen from the Earth

It is always the same side of the moon that faces the earth. Man did
not see the opposite side until the spaceship landed there and photographed
it. Astronomers had always thought that the backside should be similar to
the front with many meteorite craters and lava seas. But the photographs
showed a much different scene. The backside of the moon is very bumpy.
Most are small craters and mountain ranges with very few lava seas.
Scientists are unable to explain the differences. In theory, the
probability of being hit by meteorites should be the same for both sides of
the moon if it was a naturally formed planet. Why is there a difference?
Why is it always the same side of the moon that faces the earth? The
explanation from the scientists is that the moon rotates around its own axis
with a velocity of 16.56 km per hour, and it also revolves around the earth
at exactly the same speed. Thus the same side always faces the earth.
This phenomenon does not exist for any other planet and its satellites
in our solar system-only for our earth and moon. Is it another coincidence
along with the other coincidences? Is there an explanation other than
coincidence?

Strange Phenomena in the Past Hundreds of Years

For the last 300 hundred years, astronomers have observed many
unexplainable phenomena about the moon. Casini discovered a cluster of
clouds over the moon in 1671. In April 1786, William Herser, the father of
modern astronomy, observed the signs of volcanic eruptions on the moon,
although scientists believe that there has not been any volcanic activity on
the moon for 3 billion years. Then, what was observed that looked like
volcanic eruptions?
In 1843, German astronomer John Schicoto, who made hundreds of maps of
the moon, found that the Leany Crater, with an original diameter of several
kilometers, was becoming smaller. Today, the Leany Crater is only a tiny
spot with white sediment surrounding it. Scientists do not know why. On
April 24, 1882, scientists discovered that there were unidentified objects
moving on the surface in the Aristocrat's Zone. On October 19, 1945, the
Darwin Wall on the surface of the moon was observed to have three shiny
points on it.
On the evening of July 6, 1954, the head of the Minnesota Observatory
and his assistants saw a dark line inside the Picallomy Crater, which
shortly disappeared. On September 8, 1955, lightning appeared twice along
the edge of the Ross Crater. Again on February 9, 1956, Dr. Toyota, Meiji
University, Japan, saw several dark objects that seemed to have formed the
shape of letters DYAX and JWA.
On February 4, 1966, a Russian unmanned space-vehicle, Moon Goddess 9,
landed on the Rain Sea and photographed two rows of pyramid-like structures
that were equidistant from each other. Dr. Van Sunder stated, "They could
strongly reflect the sunlight, pretty much like the marks on runways."
Calculated from the length of the shadows, the structures are about as high
as a fifteen-story building. Dr. Van Sunder said, "There were no highlands
nearby from which the rocks would have rolled over to the current positions
to form the geometrical shapes."
Additionally, Moon Goddess 9 also photographed a mysterious cave on
the edge of the Stormy Sea. Moon research expert Dr. Wilkins believes that
these circular caves go directly to the center of the moon. Wilkins himself
once discovered a gigantic cave at Casiny Crater A. On November 20, 1966,
American Orbit 2 Exploration Spaceship photographed several pyramid-like
structures from 46 km above the Tranquility Sea. Scientists estimated that
the pyramids are 15 to 25 metres high and that they are also geometrically
positioned. The structures are lighter in colour than the rocks and soil
around them and they are obviously not natural objects.
On September 11, 1967, the Montelow Team of astronomers discovered a
"black cloud with purple borders" over the Tranquility Sea. The strange
phenomena were not observed by laypeople, but by astronomers and spaceship
probes. This means that the moon does have many mysteries unknown to human
beings.

UFO over the Moon

On November 24, 1968, Apollo 8, while investigating future landing
spots, encountered a colossal floating object that occupied several square
miles. When Apollo 8 came back to the same spot from its orbital lap around
the moon, the object was no longer there. What was it? No one knows.
Apollo 10, while at 50,000 feet above the moon, was approached by an
unidentified flying object. This encounter was documented on film. On July
19, 1969, Apollo 11 carried three astronauts to the moon who later became
the first men on the moon. En route to the moon, the astronauts saw an
unusual object in front of them. Viewing at a distance of about 6,000
miles, they initially thought that it must be the rocket propeller from the
Apollo 4. Looking through binoculars, they found that the object was
L-shaped. "It looked like an opened briefcase," said Armstrong. Looking
further through a sextant, they found the object looked like a cylinder.
Another astronaut, Aldrin, said, "We also saw several smaller objects
passing by, causing turbulence to our ship, then we saw this brighter object
flying by." On July 21, when Aldrin entered the Landing Capsule for final
check-up, he suddenly saw two floating objects. One of them was bigger and
brighter, flying at high speed in parallel to the spaceship's front, which
shortly disappeared. It reemerged a few seconds later. At that moment the
two objects shot out two light beams that joined together. Then they
suddenly separated from each other, ascended rapidly and disappeared.
When the astronauts were about to land on the moon, they heard the
voice from Control Center, "Control Center calling Apollo 11, what are they
out there?" Apollo 11 answered, "These babes are humongous, Sir . . . a lot
of them . . .Oh, my God, you won't believe it. Let me tell you there are
other spaceships there . . . by the edge of the circular craters, and they
are well positioned . . . and they are watching us from the moon . . .."
Russian scientist Dr. Arched said, "According to our intercepted signals,
the encounter with floating objects as the Apollo 11 landed was immediately
reported." On November 20, 1969, astronauts Conrad and Brian of Apollo 12
observed floating objects when they landed on the moon. Astronauts landing
on the moon from Apollo 15 in August 1971, Apollo 16 in April 1972, and
Apollo 17 in December 1972 also encountered the floating objects.
Gary, a scientist, once said, "Almost all the astronauts have seen
some unidentified flying objects." Edwards, the sixth astronaut to land on
the moon, said, "The only question is where they came from." John Younger,
the ninth astronaut on the moon, said, "If you don't believe it, it is like
you don't believe in a sure thing." In 1979, former NASA Director of
Communication Molly Chertlin stated that "encountering the floating objects"
is very common. She went on, "All the spaceships have been followed by some
floating objects either at a distance or very closely. Whenever it happens,
the astronauts would contact our mission center."
Years later, Armstrong revealed, "It is incredible . . . We were all
warned that there are for sure cities or spaceships on the moon . . . I can
only say that their spaceships are much superior and they are huge . . .."
Thousands of the lunar mystical phenomena, such as the mysterious lightning,
white and black clouds, structures, floating objects and so on, are all
facts observed by astronomers and scientists. They are yet to be explained
as to what they are.

The Moon is a Hollow Spaceship

In 1970, Russian scientists Alexander Scherbakov and Mihkai Vasin
proposed a shocking Spaceship Moon hypothesis to explain the origin of the
moon. They believe that the moon is in fact not a natural satellite of the
earth, but a spaceship created by intelligent beings that modified and
reshaped a planet. There are a lot documents regarding their civilization
stored inside the moon, which was intentionally placed above the earth. All
of the discoveries of the moon are in fact the outstanding work of the
intelligent beings that live inside of it. Of course, the scientific
community is scornful of the theory, because they have not captured any ET
yet. Nonetheless, it is undeniable that the moon has been shown to be
hollow by data gathered so far.
What perplexes scientists the most is the data gathered from the
instruments left on the moon which measure the quake activities of the
moon's crust. The data indicates that the quake waves spread from the
epicenter along the surface of the moon only, but not into the center of the
moon. This shows that the moon is hollow and it is nothing but a crust. If
it was a solid planet, the quake waves should also propagate toward the
center. How could they only go along the surface?

Reconstruct New Theories About the Moon

Let's construct a new theory about the moon. It is hollow and has two
layers of crust. The outer crust consists of rocks and mineral ores.
Meteorites can only hit through this crust. The known craters are no deeper
than four miles. Thus, this outer crust is at most five miles thick. The
inner crust is a hard, artificial alloy shell of unknown thickness-probably
several miles. Its metal elements include iron, titanium, chromium, and
others that resist high temperatures, high pressure and corrosion. It is an
alloy unknown on earth.
The moonquake data indicates that moonquake waves propagate along the
moon's surface but not towards its center. This means that the moon only
has two layers of crust. Thus the moon must be artificial, rather than
naturally formed. Intelligent beings must have conducted accurate
calculations to transport the moon from their star system to the solar
system and to position it where it is in order to provide light to the earth
at night. In conclusion, none of the three traditional theories of the
origin of the moon is correct.
The beings that constructed the moon allow only one side of the moon
to face the earth because there are many observation devices on the earth.
They themselves live inside the moon closer to the back. Because the
surface temperature of the moon varies from 127( C at noon to -183( C at
night, the inhabitants live inside the moon.
The moon-making beings have invented flying saucers and they often fly
out to do research, maintain their surface devices, or to watch the
earthlings' activities. They are thus sometimes seen by astronauts from
earth or observed by telescopes on earth. We don't yet know what kind of
aliens they are or how long they have been there. Perhaps before long,
earthlings will find out the truth about the moon.
We have constructed this theory to explain the origin and structure of
the moon by using the lunar phenomena that cannot be explained by
traditional science. This theory perfectly solves each and every mystery
surrounding the moon. Who would argue that our approach is non-scientific?

[Dantheman62]

Nice! But I'll read it tomorrow, LOL, It's almost 3:30 am

[Humble Janitor]

Mining the Moon

BY William Stone // June 2009
This is part of IEEE Spectrum's Special Report: Why Mars? Why Now? (http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/mars)
Planetary geologists speculate that the moon’s polar craters may hold billions of tons of hydrogen, perhaps even in the form of water ice. Intriguing evidence returned by the Lunar Prospector and the Clementine probes in the 1990s seemed to support this idea. The latest raft of lunar missions, including Chandrayaan-1 and the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, may confirm it. In situ prospecting could then determine the quantity, quality, and accessibility of the hydrogen.
Discovering rich concentrations of hydrogen on the moon would open up a universe of possibilities—literally. Rocket fuels and consumables that now cost an average of US $10 000 per kilogram to loft could instead be produced on the moon much more cheaply. For the first time, access to space would be truly economical. At last, people would be able to begin new ventures, including space tourism, space-debris cleanup, satellite refueling, and interplanetary voyages.

Lunar prospecting will cost a lot of money—perhaps $20 billion over a decade. Rovers would have to descend into the polar craters to sample the deposits and test for ice, and then move on to other spots to form an overall map, much as wildcatters do every day in oil fields. At the moment, no country seems eager to foot the bill. But where governments fail to act on a vitally important opportunity, the private sector can and should step in.
Two years ago, I and a group of like-minded businessmen, expeditionary explorers, and space-systems managers and engineers formed the Shackleton Energy Co. in Del Valle, Texas, to conduct lunar prospecting. Should we find significant reserves of ice, we would then establish a network of refueling service stations in low Earth orbit and on the moon to process and provide fuel and consumables. Like modern highway service stations, these celestial stations would be able to refuel space vehicles of all kinds and would be positioned at key transportation nodes; an obvious spot would be near the International Space Station.
Such stations would radically change the way nearly every space system is designed. No longer would you have to carry your fuel and water into orbit with you. Entirely new classes of space vehicles would become possible, ones that operate only at and beyond low Earth orbit, such as vehicles for orbital transfer and satellite repair. Today launch systems must be designed to withstand the punishing effects of high-speed atmospheric drag, pressure, vibration, and heating that occur on the way to space. Protecting the rocket and its payload adds enormously to launch costs. But a vehicle that is designed from the start to operate only in space—say, between low Earth orbit and the moon—is not bound by the same design rules.
We would also be able to clear up the ever-growing space debris problem. There’d be plenty of fuel for maneuvering satellites and other spacecraft to avoid debris, and you could also deploy cleanup vehicles to remove obsolete materials from orbit. Within a decade or two, we would soon see the dawn of a new age of space exploration, space tourism, and space business ventures.


So where exactly is the raw material, and how will we retrieve it? The most likely place to look is within the regolith—the loose surface material—at the bottom of lunar craters, such as Shackleton Crater at the moon’s south pole. The cold interior of this crater may act as a trap that captures volatiles like water and hydrogen, which scientists believe may have been shed by comets and asteroids that collided with the moon. In the 1990s, the Lunar Prospector spacecraft sensed unexpectedly high amounts of hydrogen in the polar regions, which may indicate the presence of water ice. NASA has considered Shackleton Crater as the site for the first lunar outpost under its Constellation program, which envisions returning astronauts to the moon by 2020.
Assuming the ice exists and can be extracted, our plan calls for establishing a fuel-processing operation on the lunar surface. The first step would be to melt the ice and purify the water. Next, we’d electrolyze the water into gaseous hydrogen and oxygen, and then condense the gases into liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen and also process them into hydrogen peroxide, all of which could be used as rocket fuels. Should other volatiles like ammonia or methane be discovered, they, too, would be processed into fuel, fertilizer, and other useful products.
Getting the fuels and other consumables from the moon into low Earth orbit will be relatively cheap. Because of the peculiarities of celestial mechanics, such a haul requires just 1/14th to 1/20th of the fuel it takes to bring material up from Earth.
Prospecting within the crater won’t be easy, of course. It’s extremely cold (a steady −173 °C) and perpetually dark—like an Antarctic winter but worse, because it’s constant. Also, the moon’s low gravitational field makes excavating that much trickier than it is back on Earth. Our plan therefore calls for developing a new generation of highly reliable, human-tended robotic machinery that would be built to withstand even that harsh environment. We think it can be done. We won’t know unless we try.


hree elements are essential for the commercial success of our operation. First, to save about $1 billion during the initial staging of the lunar mining base, the first human team will take only enough fuel to land and establish the base—not enough for a return trip to Earth. This may sound radical, but the human crew who will undertake this mission will do so knowing that their success and survival depend on in situ fuel generation for the return. Should they fail, theirs will be a one-way trip; the risk is theirs to take. For government-sponsored space agencies, such a concept is unthinkable; they cannot tolerate the political risk of failure. Yet it is the only viable business choice. Centuries of explorers made the same hard choice in pushing the limits on land, sea, and air. It’s time to carry it forward into space. This is not reckless bravado but calculated risk management to satisfy mission needs and affordability.
Second, we need a relatively inexpensive means of returning to low Earth orbit. To do that involves the dissipation of nearly 3 kilometers per second of excess velocity. Decelerating with rocket propellant alone would be prohibitively expensive—we’d be ”eating the seed corn.” So we plan to do it with actively controlled aerobraking. The water-laden spacecraft will repeatedly dip into and skip out of the upper atmosphere, losing some velocity with each dip, until it ultimately ends up in the orbit of the fueling station. This same maneuver was previously used only for much smaller planetary robotic missions, such as Magellan and the Mars Global Surveyor, but the physics and engineering are well understood. We intend to take the concept to an industrial scale, which would have obvious applications for other space missions.
Third, we plan to rely on inflatable structures. Constructed of multilayer fabrics shielded with Kevlar or other strong materials and banded by steel exoskeletons, these structures could provide most of our habitation, storage, and transportation requirements. They would be both lighter and less expensive than traditional spacecraft. A number of companies have done extensive R&D on such inflatable space structures, including Boeing and Bigelow Aerospace, which has even lofted two test modules to low Earth orbit.


Reliance on such technologies will decrease the cost of our operation, but it still will not be cheap. We estimate that establishing a lunar mining outpost and low-Earth-orbit fueling network will cost about $20 billion and take about a decade to put in place. That may sound like a lot, but in terms of complexity it’s comparable to a North Sea oil production complex. And it’s just a third of what the state-owned oil company Saudi Aramco said it will spend on oil and gas projects over the next five years.
We live in interesting times. Right now, the technology, opportunity, and need to undertake such a mission are converging. Global tensions over resources, energy, and the environmental balance will only intensify in the coming years. New technologies may solve some of these problems, but ultimately we must look further afield for answers.
The Shackleton project offers a solution. We seek the boldest and most imaginative managers, policy makers, investors, engineers, and explorers to partner with us and to ignite the Earth-moon economy. It is time for the private sector to take the lead in creating new markets and expanding humanity’s presence in space. Governments cannot and will not do it by themselves anytime soon. Our company is prepared to open up space to those who have the vision, stamina, and wherewithal to make it a reality. Join us!
For more articles, go to Special Report: Why Mars? Why Now? (http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/mars)
About the Author

William Stone is an aerospace engineer and explorer. He serves as the chairman of Shackleton Energy Co., based in Del Valle, Texas.


http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/space-flight/mining-the-moon

Oh come on! A decade?

That's TPTB's way of saying "Fuhgettaboutit! Not happening!"

[Illumination]

.



Crashing a rocket onto the moon for an experiment.

Thats annoying.

I hope it goes the way of the LHC experiment.

A..

[BROOK]

Moon Flowers :wub2:

http://image62.webshots.com/462/2/19/13/2861219130038486837fTeVis_ph.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/3237361655_a45a7ef76e.jpg

[lemon_sky88]

Further developments on the bombing of the moon

http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m6d19-NASA-moon-bombing-violates-space-law--may-cause-conflict-with-lunar-extraterrestrial-civilizations

Why are we bombing the moon. Not for water i know that much. We have instaments to take care of this. What in gods name are we trying to do on the moon. what human activity on the moon are we preparing for? sounds very fishy and i dont like us messing with celestial objects for the hell of it. :mad3:

[Dantheman62]

Further developments on the bombing of the moon

http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m6d19-NASA-moon-bombing-violates-space-law--may-cause-conflict-with-lunar-extraterrestrial-civilizations

Why are we bombing the moon. Not for water i know that much. We have instaments to take care of this. What in gods name are we trying to do on the moon. what human activity on the moon are we preparing for? sounds very fishy and i dont like us messing with celestial objects for the hell of it. :mad3:
It does sound fishy, but the moon will be just fine. Most craters on the moon exceed 25 miles across and the largest one being over 1500 miles across. Imagine how big and fast that meteor was traveling to create that crater! A meteor can easily travel at 30,000 miles per hour and it had to be huge to create that size of crater, so our little 5000 pound probe traveling at 5,600 miles per hour will seem like a mosquito bite to the moon!

But with all the other countries having already mapped it out and crashed probes into it for soil composition experiments, why do we all of a sudden feel the need to do it? Very fishy!

[Orion11]

They must think we're Lunatics :lmfao:


ahhh, my middle name is Lunaticus! :mfr_lol:

[BROOK]

ahhh, my middle name is Lunaticus! :mfr_lol:


NO way! that is too funny :lmfao:

[Orion11]

hahahaha, :mfr_lol:

you silly girl, :naughty:
no not really....
i was jus joshin ya. lol

i am a lunatic though. lol :p

i love those Moon flowers!! :wub2:

i cant remember the kind im thinkin of, maybe its those...

but they only smell at night when the moon is lit.. or somethin. lol
a type of jasmine maybe? dang.. i forget... beautiful tho.

those ones you posted look like morning glorys almost.

[BROOK]

hahahaha, :mfr_lol:

you silly girl, :naughty:
no not really....
i was jus joshin ya. lol

i am a lunatic though. lol :p

i love those Moon flowers!! :wub2:

i cant remember the kind im thinkin of, maybe its those...

but they only smell at night when the moon is lit.. or somethin. lol
a type of jasmine maybe? dang.. i forget... beautiful tho.

those ones you posted look like morning glorys almost.

Okay...just for that you get mooned :lmfao:

http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/expression/expression_138.gif

those flowers do look like morning glory's ...but the site said
Moon Flowers....maybe that another name for them

[Orion11]

hahahaha!!, woohoo!! :D lol

ohh yeah, i looked up the moon flowers,
they open at night instead of in the day time so that certain moths can pollinate them! cool!

and just fer that.....
im gunna Moon you back! :p
http://images.stanzapub.com/readers/2009/01/11/moon-butt_1.jpg
:wub2: lol

[Orion11]

i dont wanna get 'yelled at' for posting this,
even though its just a drawing/painting... some silly goose might find it offensive, who knows. lol
.. so ill link it instead of posting the image (its fine, really) http://www.goyettefamily.com/media/moon_landing.jpg
:mfr_lol:

:roll1:

[Orion11]

and ive never heard of "moon butt", but apparently it's a real character on nickelodeon,
http://www.comicartcollective.com/artImages/CD14B5AF-2BA0-444F-A980B18B97D06D95.jpg :mfr lol:

[BROOK]

i dont wanna get 'yelled at' for posting this,
even though its just a drawing/painting... some silly goose might find it offensive, who knows. lol
.. so ill link it instead of posting the image (its fine, really) http://www.goyettefamily.com/media/moon_landing.jpg
:mfr_lol:

:roll1:

That's GREAT :mfr_lol:

[Orion11]

lol :p

Last Kaguya HDTV Images Before Impact

http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Kaguya-image-before-impact.jpg

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has released the final still images taken by the onboard High Definition Television (HDTV) from Kaguya, just before it completed its mission by impacting the moon on June 11, 2009. An entire series of images were taken with an interval of about one minute by the HDTV (Teltephoto) while Kaguya maneuvered its way to impact in Gill Crater.

Here's a link to a Flash animation (http://wms.selene.jaxa.jp/selene_viewer/jpn/observation_mission/hdtv/077/hdtv_077_hdtv_last.html) showing the images in succession. Click the "up" arrow to proceed through the images.

The last image taken is basically just black as it approached the darkened bottom of the crater. This is the second to the last image taken:

http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Kaguya-2nd-to-last.jpg

Visible is the surface of the Moon getting closer as Kaguya approached impact.

Kaguya launched on September 14, 2007 and spent nearly two years studying the moon before the planned impact. An Australian telescope observed the controlled crash of Japan's Kaguya lunar probe into the moon Wednesday, an important warm-up act before a NASA's LCROSS impactor attempts a similar feat in October. Here's the series of images from Australia:

http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Kaguya-impact-580x158.jpg
The image above shows a sequence of four frames around the impact time, with a bright impact flash visible in the second frame, and faintly seen in the third and fourth. Credit: Anglo-Australian Telescope by Jeremy Bailey (University of New South Wales) and Steve Lee (Anglo-Australian Observatory)

Browse through more images taken by the Kaguya HDTV Archives (http://wms.selene.jaxa.jp/selene_viewer/jpn/observation_mission/hdtv/hdtv_077.html), the JAXA digital archives (http://jda.jaxa.jp/jda/p1_e.php) , and the JAXA channel on YouTube. (http://www.youtube.com/jaxachannel)

[Dantheman62]

That's an interesting article in post #60 Orion! I finally read it. LOL, Next I'll read BROOKS mining one!

[Orion11]

haha

heres our close friend, the near side...
http://web.archive.org/web/20080210135055/http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2004/066/1-066-clem-near-side.jpg

and our distant friend, the far side...
http://web.archive.org/web/20080210135055/http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2004/066/2-066-clem-far-side.jpg

[Orion11]

p.s...

Im sure many of you are aware of the mars anomoly research site ,

well he had some problems and his site went down,
and ALL of his civilization evidence is gone! see here.. http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-directories/3-civilization/civilization-directory.htm

there was allot!!

and if you guys have seen it... its not surprising it went missing!

BUT, act quick, and the archive with just about all the stuff is there. ;)
see here> http://web.archive.org/web/20080201100811/http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-directories/3-civilization/civilization-directory.htm

:wub2:

[Orion11]

another far side~
http://web.archive.org/web/20080210135055/http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2004/066/3-066-apollo-far-side.jpg

http://web.archive.org/web/20080210135055/http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2004/066/4-066-oblique-maria.jpg

[Dantheman62]

Cool, I don't know if I've ever seen a picture of the far side! I'll check your mars link out now! Thanks!

[orthodoxymoron]

Thank-you for all of the fantastic information on this thread. It is very interesting...yet it makes me feel very small and very sad...to not be invited to the high tech party that is going on up there on the moon. We get lied to...misused and abused...from the womb to the tomb. Why does everything have to be such a big G**D*** secret? The internet is changing this...but I get the feeling that the real powers that be and real insiders are not very happy about it. I feel no love emanating from on high.
I continue to believe that ending the secrecy regarding what is really going on in the universe...and decentralizing power...is the road to utopia.
I know I'm naive...but I like my little dreamworld.

[Humble Janitor]

p.s...

Im sure many of you are aware of the mars anomoly research site ,

well he had some problems and his site went down,
and ALL of his civilization evidence is gone! see here.. http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-directories/3-civilization/civilization-directory.htm

there was allot!!

and if you guys have seen it... its not surprising it went missing!

BUT, act quick, and the archive with just about all the stuff is there. ;)
see here> http://web.archive.org/web/20080201100811/http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-directories/3-civilization/civilization-directory.htm

:wub2:

Gonna save the html from the archive when I get home. I have experience with manipulating html code and can preserve websites.

[Humble Janitor]

Thank-you for all of the fantastic information on this thread. It is very interesting...yet it makes me feel very small and very sad...to not be invited to the high tech party that is going on up there on the moon. We get lied to...misused and abused...from the womb to the tomb. Why does everything have to be such a big G**D*** secret? The internet is changing this...but I get the feeling that the real powers that be and real insiders are not very happy about it. I feel no love emanating from on high.
I continue to believe that ending the secrecy regarding what is really going on in the universe...and decentralizing power...is the road to utopia.
I know I'm naive...but I like my little dreamworld.

Do not feel sad or small. We will know this stuff soon. Our cosmic brothers and sisters will have no more of TPTB and their attempts to keep us in the dark.

[Orion11]

good deal humble, thanks! :)

orthodoxy~ no worries bro....
we do not know many of these things yet...
but like humble said.. we will know this stuff soon.

Dont be sad bro,
thats only giving these ignorant powers what they want.

I know I say it often here...

But just know that it, ( all of it) , is happening exactly as it should.. and cannot happen any other way... everything will turn out exactly as it should, and there is no one who can stop or change it.

even if we are oblivious to the reasoning behind some of the things,
if we do finally realize that everything is as it should be,
and nothing that it should not be..

comfort and safety will be found in that realization. . if it is indeed ' realized,
and not just simply read or heard.

keep smiling broseph.
all is well,
regardless of what the illusion tells us. :wub2:

[BROOK]

I told you there's life on the moon! :mad3:

http://www.displaystatues.com/images/lgfibalien1328.jpg

Now tell NASA to back off

[Humble Janitor]

Oh they will.

NASA didn't get the hint the first time.

[orthodoxymoron]

Now that dirty old man in the moon looks just a little too happy...

[Nebula]

Unless i somehow missed it, just thought it was quite strange nobody is talking about the upcoming lunar eclipse! where are all the moon experts? :)

[Nebula]

http://www.colinandrews.net/sitebuilder/images/2009-0630-England-MilkHillP-692x284.jpg

This crop circle depicts the importance of the upcoming lunar eclipse and all the energies and vibrations it brings for all humanity. I can see ppl talking about solar flares but that is dis-info.

[Orion11]

wow!, thats a sweet one!!
wikked sweet!!

the eclipse is tonight!!
http://www.nightskyobserver.com/lunar-eclipse-july-2009.php

great pic, thanks!

and i agree... Lunar energies are ....hhhmmmmm... cant think of a word.....
but they are my favorite! lol

but lately ive been learning how the sun puts out information with its light..(
as do the moonbeams).
but as ive been excperiencng with Sol lately.....
it is very interesting stuff!!!

i dont know whjat to make of the info "He"gives yet..
but its there, and there for all.....

meditations directly under the big hard sun can produce some pretty cool results.. and quickly. lol

i was taught to look at the sun for just a fraction of a second.. ( or as long as the individual can stand to keep their eyes open comfortably).. which for most.. is only a fraction of a second. lol

then directly after letting the light enter into your eyes,
close your eyes and begin your meditation.

if your into this kind of thing.. give it a try.

:wub2:

[Nebula]

Its about time someone posted on this thread :) Thanks Orion11! I do fully agree with you, we get most our our energy from the sun, why not information too!

[Anchor]

Thanks Orion11,

The meditation was pretty cool - normally I see reds, blues and golden white light - but this time it was just bright red. After I finished I realised that my eyes had in fact completely melted - now what ?

:lmao:

A..

[Nebula]

Orion11, i found the following link from within the first one you provided. Very interesting info, since its a lunar eclipse and all. check it out:

http://creativenumerology.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/7-7-2009/
corrected link!

[Orion11]

Thanks Orion11,

The meditation was pretty cool - normally I see reds, blues and golden white light - but this time it was just bright red. After I finished I realised that my eyes had in fact completely melted - now what ?

:lmao:

A..

:mfr_lol: :lol3:

well then....

once the eyeballs melt,
we have to rely purely on the third eye...
which will never melt. :lol3:


ohh, my email notifier jus popped up while reading that link from nebula, and i got 14 messages. lol
:wub2:

[Orion11]

Orion11, i found the following link from within the first one you provided. Very interesting info, since its a lunar eclipse and all. check it out:

http://creativenumerology.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/7-7-2009/
corrected link!

ohhh,
very cool link!!! :D
thanks nebula! :wub2:

7 is 'my' number. :smoke: lol

my bday is in 7 days from today also. lol

714 , and 1111 are the numbers that are constantly in my life whenever i need to pay attention to somethng. .. and they are in my face constantly... have been for years and years.... and im just starting to really comprehend what they are about and how significant they are. lol

thanks you, i love you peeps. :wub2:

[Nebula]

ain't it special how all this events are happening now. And also all the symbology and syncronisities with the numbers :)

[2feathers]

Has anyone mentioned the documentary 'Moon Rising'? (I might have missed it as I read quickly!) I know you can watch it in nine parts, I think, on YouTube. I find the imagery fantastic and inspiring.

Here's a link to the film on Disclose TV
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/25860/MOON_RISING___Jose_Escamilla__Pt_1_3_/

and the link to the movie's website: http://moonrising-themovie.com/home.html

Enjoy!

[Dantheman62]

There's a thread on that movie "moon rising" here.........................

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15103

[Orion11]

yes Nebula,
special it is.

very exciting
to be here
now.

as my friend Tom, (aka jazzed2bhere) says....
People are ready. The 100th monkey is prepared.

i have to agree. :)

Here are some more words of his if your interested....
http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=blogs&action=display&thread=1893&page=5

Dan, the link you sent me to that moon rising video is soooo niiice man. thank you
Im putting it on my hd. :wub2:
thanks for the links all, :D
Blessings abounds.

[Nebula]

has anyone here took pics of the moon in the last 24hrs?

[BROOK]

has anyone here took pics of the moon in the last 24hrs?

My guess is Orion has...and will share them soon... he has some great pics on the first page of this thread :thumb_yello:

[Nebula]

Most def. Brooks! looking fwd to seeing some new pics. thx.

[BROOK]

While we wait for Orion...here is a video that is relevant...:naughty:

YouTube - alien moon base

[BROOK]

:thumb_yello:

YouTube - Alien Moon (Part 1 of 2)

YouTube - Alien Moon (Part 2 of 2)

[Nebula]

nice videos Brook! thanks.

[BROOK]

nice videos Brook! thanks.

I just fixed the video.s.I put part one in where it belongs....doh :lmfao:

[Orion11]

awwww, now i am saddened....... :(

you family are waiting for some freshy pics of Luna... an i have none to share. :(
lol

For July~ this sure is some funky weather!!

seriously... for hours last night,
I would go out and check the sky, and Look for our Lady...
and She was nowhere to be found...
I finally got a teensy glimpse of Her @ around 1am,
but it was just a faded circle of light in the sky,
blanketed by massive cloud cover.
no detail to be seen. :(

I kept checking until about 4:30 am,
but the clouds had their own agenda. lol
just wasnt happening.

i did wonder though..... often through the night...

If any of you had gotten, or were getting a good view?
Were any of you Fam. blessed by the Light of Luna last night? lol

thanks for the kind words, I love yas. :wub2:

[Nebula]

awwww, now i am saddened....... :(

you family are waiting for some freshy pics of Luna... an i have none to share. :(
lol

For July~ this sure is some funky weather!!

seriously... for hours last night,
I would go out and check the sky, and Look for our Lady...
and She was nowhere to be found...
I finally got a teensy glimpse of Her @ around 1am,
but it was just a faded circle of light in the sky,
blanketed by massive cloud cover.
no detail to be seen. :(

I kept checking until about 4:30 am,
but the clouds had their own agenda. lol
just wasnt happening.

i did wonder though..... often through the night...

If any of you had gotten, or were getting a good view?
Were any of you Fam. blessed by the Light of Luna last night? lol

thanks for the kind words, I love yas. :wub2:

no worries orion11, we got plenty moons to go! :)

[Orion11]

:) :wub2:

[sleepingnomore]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/PurpleMist2/indianmoon.jpg