VOYAGERS - Secrets Of Amenti

[Luminari]

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Amazon.com: Voyagers II: Secrets of Amenti: Ashayana Deane: Books

The most authoritative text available on the purposes, processes and mechanics of human evolution, preparation for the monumental events that will occur between 2000-2017, humanity’s true origins and evolutionary destiny and the hidden purposes for the New Age Movement. Detailed information on Keylontic Morphogenetic Science, time mechanics, interdimensional planetary evolution, the science of Dimensional Ascension, integration of multi-dimensional identity, DNA mechanics and accelerated biological and spiritual evolution. Introduces a comprehensive model of 15-dimensional universal physics and the corresponding 15 Primary Chakra System and 12-strand DNA Silicate Matrix gene code. Discover the secrets of humanity’s evolutionary destiny that have been hidden within our ancient, traditional and New Age sacred mystical and religious teachings.

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Has anybody here read the Voyagers books 1 & 2? If so you may have some idea of what I am going through at the moment... :shocked:
Now I have spent years reading the most far out amazing alien and esoteric literature I could find but nothing could prepare me for this book Voyagers 2 Secrets Of Amenti.
This book will knock your socks off and that is a massive understatement.
If you have ever been interested in Project Camelot topics this is a mandatory read.. I hope Kerry reads this too, will answer many many questions re: stargates, 2012, Ascension, DNA changes, Extraterrestrial involvment with earth, parallel timelines, dimensions. Plus a million other things beyond your wildest dreams.
Now you may be saying to yourself "Luminari, you just described a bunch of run-of-the-mill new age topics that I have been studying for years, how is this book any better than a ton of other star literature and channeled, and also alternative science books I have read."

Well folks believe me when I say this book is so advanced and so far beyond anything else. It is beyond the capacity of any of Earths genius's to formulate this synthesis, the 'author' is actually just transcribing something that was directly transmitted to her from 'Guardians' (NOT channeled).

Voyagers 1: The Sleeping Abductees, was excellent but not dealing with as many topics and is primarily focused on Abduction/Zeta/interior government agenda issues.

Voyagers 2: The Secrets Of Amenti, is an essential read (Nexus 2012 thread people take note; Astralwalker this holds many missing keys to your research).
I would like to discuss some of the material on this thread a little at a time. Im not sure where to start however as the scope and detail is so vast. This book is nearly 600 pages long and I would struggle even trying to convey the meaning of a single page in laymans terms.
When you get the book, perservere through the complexity of the first 30-40 pages and I promise it will open up and get more 'enjoyable' and deeply fascinating.

In love and Exploration till the ascension wave of 2017,

Universally Yours,
L

[Sarahmay]

Thanks. I am planning to read it this summer.

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[Phtha]

Thanks for the heads up, I'm going to grab this for sure as it sounds like its right up my alley..
I have a few questions.
What exactly is the difference between channeling and a direct transmission? Are we talking another device, like a radio of some sort that was used?

When you mention the Guardians, are you referring to the Council of Saturn? Or I guess I should say is that what the book describes them as?

Have you read the The Law of One Sessions by Ra, An Humble Messenger? The ones from the early 1980's, not the wilcock session.
They can also be described in a similar way you have described this book.
I have read up to session 45ish so far. I'm wondering if the information between the Voyagers books and the Ra Sessions would be best described as congruent or conflicting?
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[orthodoxymoron]

Who are the primary critics of Ashayana Deane and Voyagers? I'm so guillible that I really need to listen to all sides to get a clearer picture of whether to believe something or not. I like what I have heard from Ashayana...but I still haven't ordered the books. The material is so comprehensive, detailed, and mind-blowing. I suspect a history of the universe which is very bizzare and complex...whether the Voyager material holds up or not. Our religions and philosophies have hidden this from our view...seemingly until very recently. We need to get to the bottom of universal history and our history as quickly as possible...no matter how upsetting and disruptive the results of this may be. I think we are very innocent and vulnerable when we don't know who we really are and where we really came from. We have a need to know...and we have a need to be free. We need to become very knowledgeable and wise...and rule ourselves(but not others)...and never be slaves on our knees...worshipping and obeying any master, dictator, or god.

[Luminari]

What exactly is the difference between channeling and a direct transmission? Are we talking another device, like a radio of some sort that was used?
Are you familiar with Billy Meier how he has been trained from birth to recognise millions of symbols which are basically a telepathic universal symbol language? Stewart Swerdlow also talks about a similar thing with his Hyperspace Archetypal symbols. Well I believe it is something similar to that.. a transference of 'Keylontic' symbols directly into DNA which is then available as detailed specific thought information.
I am doing a poor job of describing this Phtha but is quite complex and I don't fully understand it myself.. the books have more comprehensive explaination.
The Author has also met 'beings' face-to-face and been educated by them since birth.

When you mention the Guardians, are you referring to the Council of Saturn? Or I guess I should say is that what the book describes them as?
Very big question, I could type several pages to describe the Guardian Alliance and IAFW (Interdimensional Association of Free Worlds) and more organisations. On an enormously larger scale than the council of saturn but I couldn't tell you their exact correlation/relationship with that group at this point.

Have you read the The Law of One Sessions by Ra, An Humble Messenger?
I sure have. I have all 5 books of the Law Of One material right here beside me. I am very familiar with it.
The Guardian Alliance are united under the 'Emerald Covenant' which is all about Freedom/Free Will, peace and living in accordance with the Law Of One. The RA confederacy also make an appearance in this literature although they are somehow related to the Meta-Galactic core of our time-matrix which is a little different than merely the Venus affiliation mentioned in the 'RA Material' books.

I'm wondering if the information between the Voyagers books and the Ra Sessions would be best described as congruent or conflicting?
*mostly* Congruent.


Thanks for the heads up, I'm going to grab this for sure as it sounds like its right up my alley..
I have a few questions.
What exactly is the difference between channeling and a direct transmission? Are we talking another device, like a radio of some sort that was used?

When you mention the Guardians, are you referring to the Council of Saturn? Or I guess I should say is that what the book describes them as?

Have you read the The Law of One Sessions by Ra, An Humble Messenger? The ones from the early 1980's, not the wilcock session.
They can also be described in a similar way you have described this book.
I have read up to session 45ish so far. I'm wondering if the information between the Voyagers books and the Ra Sessions would be best described as congruent or conflicting?
http://wiki.lawofone.info/index.php/Main_Page

[Luminari]

Who are the primary critics of Ashayana Deane and Voyagers? I'm so guillible that I really need to listen to all sides to get a clearer picture of whether to believe something or not. I like what I have heard from Ashayana...but I still haven't ordered the books. The material is so comprehensive, detailed, and mind-blowing. I suspect a history of the universe which is very bizzare and complex...whether the Voyager material holds up or not. Our religions and philosophies have hidden this from our view...seemingly until very recently. We need to get to the bottom of universal history and our history as quickly as possible...no matter how upsetting and disruptive the results of this may be. I think we are very innocent and vulnerable when we don't know who we really are and where we really came from. We have a need to know...and we have a need to be free. We need to become very knowledgeable and wise...and rule ourselves(but not others)...and never be slaves on our knees...worshipping and obeying any master, dictator, or god.

I will be up front and say that there is a running dispute between Ashayana Deane and Drunvalo Melchizedek over the aspects of Merkaba mechanics.
They both claim the other is doing it the wrong way.

I support both people for their personal contributions to enlightenment of humanity, I will let you use your personal discretion as to the more advanced physics of various concepts. I think they both have important insights to share and don't see that choosing only one system of thought is beneficial for me personally.

I see some fascinating correlations between the Keylontic science and some of Nassim Haramein's discoveries, I hope he is aware of the extent of it.

[orthodoxymoron]

Thank-you Luminari. The truth has a way of emerging in the midst of a debate...but it can cause whiplash and a lot of collateral damage. I will try to take a close look at both of these people and their work. One never really knows what the hidden agendas are. All of this makes life very interesting. I wouldn't have it any other way.

[sleepingnomore]

I have been wanting to get this first book since you first mentioned it. One of many on my list. Thank you again for reminding us.:original:

[Phtha]

Thanks Luminari your description about the transmission method was great. :thumb_yello:
For those that are interested, here is Steward Swerdlows videos about hyperspace and the archetypal language used. 24 parts in all.
YouTube - Stewart Swerdlow - Hyperspace 101 Pt1/24

I'm looking forward to my books arrival.

I know what you mean Orthordoxy, about being gullible when it comes to some of this information. I made a rule with myself that I won't believe anything 100% that I can't in some way experience on a personal level. The Ra stuff for instance, I like to think I'm about 90 - 95% in belief with the information, especially because it does tie in with a lot of old esoteric stuff, but I always leave room for the possibility that it might all be a big lie or cia experiment or what have you.

I listen to what others have to say about any information, but I generally won't let other peoples opinions sway my judgement, as I have noticed that in doing so it is much easier to get led down false paths then when I trust my own feelings when it comes to this sort of stuff. So I guess what I'm saying is I jump into any information with no fear and trust that my quest for truth will keep me from being derailed. :lol3:

This type of information certainly adds new levels of excitement and flavours to life, that's for sure!

[rhythm]

Thanks for the heads up

Lumminari this stuff lookee like

one i may have to investigate ....

[Luminari]

I jump into any information with no fear and trust that my quest for truth will keep me from being derailed. :lol3:

This type of information certainly adds new levels of excitement and flavours to life, that's for sure!

We are twin-flames in that regard. I agree totally.

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[orthodoxymoron]

I will be up front and say that there is a running dispute between Ashayana Deane and Drunvalo Melchizedek over the aspects of Merkaba mechanics.
They both claim the other is doing it the wrong way.



Merkaba vs Reverse Merkaba?:lol3:

[Gemeos]

Thanks Luminari for sharing what looks an extraordinary book.
I've just ordered it from amazon now!

I'll happily share my conclusions after I read it.

Love and Respect

Gemeos

[Sarahmay]

My copy is on the way!

[Carmen]

Luminari, the idea of thought transmission or direct info through symbols, sounds a bit like what Robert Munroe describes in his book 'Far Journeys'. The term 'rote', being given a 'rote', meant a "packet" of thought/mentation, total memory, knowledge, info, experience, history. Like downloading an e-book on the computer and comtemplating/studying it at your leisure. Interesting!

Cheers

Carmen

[Luminari]

Luminari, the idea of thought transmission or direct info through symbols, sounds a bit like what Robert Munroe describes in his book 'Far Journeys'. The term 'rote', being given a 'rote', meant a "packet" of thought/mentation, total memory, knowledge, info, experience, history. Like downloading an e-book on the computer and comtemplating/studying it at your leisure. Interesting!

Cheers

Carmen

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[Luminari]

Note:

In the diagram above "Levels of Identity"

HU denotes: HARMONIC UNIVERSE

[Luminari]

Woodborough Hill, Nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire. reported 10th August.

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Is this new formation showing the time vector merging currently happening between Earth and Parallel Earth? (see post #19 in this thread)

[Antonia]

Hi Luminari... I've been in to this stuff for a while now... there are 4 lectures on Google Video from Ashaya... they are realy somthing to listen to..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4316053577070064505

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8410551651586566192

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6312852949599163637&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3182759037509881698&hl=en

his is a very concise account the Voyagers serries
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/voyagers/esp_voyagers18b.htm


This is a dictionary to follow keyletonic science
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/voyagers/esp_voyagersindex.htm#inicio

[Luminari]

Hi Luminari... I've been in to this stuff for a while now... there are 4 lectures on Google Video from Ashaya... they are realy somthing to listen to..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4316053577070064505

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8410551651586566192

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6312852949599163637&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3182759037509881698&hl=en

his is a very concise account the Voyagers serries
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/voyagers/esp_voyagers18b.htm


This is a dictionary to follow keyletonic science
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/voyagers/esp_voyagersindex.htm#inicio


For total newcomers I recommend listening to number 3 in the 4 part series first! They are not flowing or sequential if you listen to them in a linear fashion so it really doesn't matter if you change up the order.

Number 3 would be best to start with in my view. :thumb_yello:

P.S. thanks Antonia xo

[Luminari]

Thanks eXchanger.. a big X for you :wink2:

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[orthodoxymoron]

Luminari: You are obviously a thoughtful researcher. Do you believe Ashayana...or are you still trying to make up your mind? I like a lot of the general concepts...but all of this seems to be too detailed and sanitized. She seems to be too sure and definite about all of this. There may be a reality which contains many of the concepts which Ashayana presents...but I am suffering from indigestion when I try to swallow the whole enchilada.

I know that you lean toward a positive view of ET's...but what if most of this ET stuff is really demonic in nature...at least regarding what we humans are being exposed to here on Earth?

More and more...I am seeing an ancient conflict between human and reptilian races...going back a long, long time. I'm also seeing endless reincarnation applying to both races. It seems like an us vs them situation...without an ultimate God of the Universe...to bail us out. The God of This World seems to be reptilian...and does not love us or want to help us. We seem to be cattle to these b******s. I see a light at the end of the tunnel...but for now...we seem to be pretty much f****d.

I just want them to leave us alone...and allow us to attempt to get our act together...without interference. But damned if I know. Perhaps we are too stupid to rule ourselves...and are better off as slaves in an Alien New World Order. I received a comment on You Tube...saying that 'you can't rule yourselves'. Would a human being make a comment like this? I don't think so. I think that a lot of non-humans converse with humans on the internet...perhaps even in this forum. Another comment stated 'we're in your back'. This is very creepy. I'm gonna have another drink...and go to sleep.

[Sarahmay]

Luminari: You are obviously a thoughtful researcher. Do you believe Ashayana...or are you still trying to make up your mind? I like a lot of the general concepts...but all of this seems to be too detailed and sanitized. She seems to be too sure and definite about all of this. There may be a reality which contains many of the concepts which Ashayana presents...but I am suffering from indigestion when I try to swallow the whole enchilada.

I know that you lean toward a positive view of ET's...but what if most of this ET stuff is really demonic in nature...at least regarding what we humans are being exposed to here on Earth?

More and more...I am seeing an ancient conflict between human and reptilian races...going back a long, long time. I'm also seeing endless reincarnation applying to both races. It seems like an us vs them situation...without an ultimate God of the Universe...to bail us out. The God of This World seems to be reptilian...and does not love us or want to help us. We seem to be cattle to these b******s. I see a light at the end of the tunnel...but for now...we seem to be pretty much f****d.

I just want them to leave us alone...and allow us to attempt to get our act together...without interference. But damned if I know. Perhaps we are too stupid to rule ourselves...and are better off as slaves in an Alien New World Order. I received a comment on You Tube...saying that 'you can't rule yourselves'. Would a human being make a comment like this? I don't think so. I think that a lot of non-humans converse with humans on the internet...perhaps even in this forum. Another comment stated 'we're in your back'. This is very creepy. I'm gonna have another drink...and go to sleep.


I don't know how much you know about Deane's work, but she is very down on the reptilian influence. And so called angels too...they are all nothing but higher dimensional aliens, and some of them do not have our best interests at heart, especially Archangel Michael and his crew. Angels, demons...they are all just other energy entities and we needs to remove the "holy" or "satanic" labels from them which gives them so much mysterious power. WE are the ones with power, and they don't want us to know.

But having written all that, I do not wholeheartedly believe or subscribe to her beliefs, I just find them interesting.

[waitinginthewings]

Orthodoxymoron:

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I just want them to leave us alone...and allow us to attempt to get our act together...without interference. But damned if I know. Perhaps we are too stupid to rule ourselves...and are better off as slaves in an Alien New World Order. I received a comment on You Tube...saying that 'you can't rule yourselves'. Would a human being make a comment like this? I don't think so. I think that a lot of non-humans converse with humans on the internet...perhaps even in this forum. Another comment stated 'we're in your back'. This is very creepy. I'm gonna have another drink...and go to sleep."

I hear your frustration, I feel the same way, the more I hear & read, the more confusing it gets. But that is really the plan, confuse the heck out of us, so we don't have a clue who our enemy is. I've been thinking of finding myself a cave for a while now, stocking it & hanging out there, until this is all over, or I die, whichever comes first. I am so tired of all the contradictions.:sleep_1:

[Luminari]

Luminari: You are obviously a thoughtful researcher. Do you believe Ashayana...or are you still trying to make up your mind? I like a lot of the general concepts...but all of this seems to be too detailed and sanitized. She seems to be too sure and definite about all of this. There may be a reality which contains many of the concepts which Ashayana presents...but I am suffering from indigestion when I try to swallow the whole enchilada.

I know that you lean toward a positive view of ET's...but what if most of this ET stuff is really demonic in nature...at least regarding what we humans are being exposed to here on Earth?

More and more...I am seeing an ancient conflict between human and reptilian races...going back a long, long time. I'm also seeing endless reincarnation applying to both races. It seems like an us vs them situation...without an ultimate God of the Universe...to bail us out. The God of This World seems to be reptilian...and does not love us or want to help us. We seem to be cattle to these b******s. I see a light at the end of the tunnel...but for now...we seem to be pretty much f****d.

I just want them to leave us alone...and allow us to attempt to get our act together...without interference. But damned if I know. Perhaps we are too stupid to rule ourselves...and are better off as slaves in an Alien New World Order. I received a comment on You Tube...saying that 'you can't rule yourselves'. Would a human being make a comment like this? I don't think so. I think that a lot of non-humans converse with humans on the internet...perhaps even in this forum. Another comment stated 'we're in your back'. This is very creepy. I'm gonna have another drink...and go to sleep.

Watch the videos Orthodoxymoron, very beneficial, you can let go of your human vs reptilian baggage if you choose to. There is nothing to be gained from being sceptical in my opinion but ignorance. Accept it all and then 'let go' of what doesn't ring true to your higher intuition.

In love and exploration,
L

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[Luminari]

Here are the other threads that have sprung up re: this vital re-emergence of universal knowledge (lets keep the discoveries and discussions going) I dreamt about this material last night.. all night. Leading edge brilliance.
Lets reclaim our Diamond Sun DNA and our multi-dimensional awareness:

Contactee Ashayana Deane (formerly Anna Hayes) - Angelic Realities (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16157&highlight=anna+hayes)

Rare- Contactee Anna Hayes - Angelic Realities Part1 (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16212&highlight=anna+hayes)

Hierophant Maharic Seal Meditation Spoken by A'sha-yana Deane [audio file] (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16325&highlight=anna+hayes)

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[TempestGarden]

I am seriously considering ordering Voyagers II and reading it. It seems like it might be overly "technical" in nature, but I am willing to give it a try. From my so far superficial exposure to her teachings, it seems like she doesn't really believe that love and hope will get us through ultimately and it almost seems like she is saying we are somewhat powerless and doomed.

I am not sure about her take on Archangel Michael. Perhaps someone can explain this to me a little bit better? Is this not a benevolent entity/angel afterall? I always thought he was supposed to be. I am more than a little confused about what he truly represents.

[Sarahmay]

I am seriously considering ordering Voyagers II and reading it. It seems like it might be overly "technical" in nature, but I am willing to give it a try. From my so far superficial exposure to her teachings, it seems like she doesn't really believe that love and hope will get us through ultimately and it almost seems like she is saying we are somewhat powerless and doomed.

I am not sure about her take on Archangel Michael. Perhaps someone can explain this to me a little bit better? Is this not a benevolent entity/angel afterall? I always thought he was supposed to be. I am more than a little confused about what he truly represents.


It is highly technical in parts, but there are some real gems of information in the book.

As for the Archangel Michael, this link has more information:

http://www.keylonticdictionary.org/Words/A/Archangel%20Michael.htm

[TempestGarden]

It is highly technical in parts, but there are some real gems of information in the book.

As for the Archangel Michael, this link has more information:

http://www.keylonticdictionary.org/Words/A/Archangel%20Michael.htm

Wow. Even just reading the link you sent to me kinda makes my head spin. There are at least a dozen terms that I don't understand just within that "definition" of Archangel Michael. Does the book go into detail about all these different topics or is the reader expected to reference the link (dictionary) that you sent me in order to understand what she is talking about in the book half the time? :mfr_lol:

[TempestGarden]

I have been reading through parts of the Keylontic Dictionary and I found this information to be quite interesting...

The elite "Masters of War" that have held by force positions of political, religious and economic power throughout our known history from Sumeria, Babylon, Egypt and Rome, up to the present-day covert "World Management Team," are the Illuminati hybrid "Sleeper Races."

The Illuminati hybrid Sleeper Races are the Earthly Representatives of competing Anunnaki, Necromiton and Drakonian/Reptilian Fallen Angelic legions, and they have been the motivating force behind all "human" politics since the 9,558 BC "fall" of Atlantis.

Illuminati hybrid Sleepers are but a minority within Earth populations, but they are those presently in positions of greatest power and influence behind the global political, religious and economic infrastructure.

Like Earth Human races, Illuminati Sleepers races have been subjected to literally thousands of years of false cultural and religious programming via implanted Anunnaki and Drakonian/Reptilian indoctrination.

I think that serves as a nice way of describing what is potentially really going on in this world. Also, in a way, it helps me to get a better grasp of exactly what the Illuminati and the shadow government really are.

[Luminari]

Does the book go into detail about all these different topics? :mfr_lol:

Yes! and then some. Enjoy it. :original:

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[Luminari]

Greetings Kathara enthusiasts & KS'ers! (Keylontic Science)

Here is the links to the Registrations page for both the Melbourne and Sunshine Coast Kathara Level-2/3 workshops:


MELBOURNE, VIC 30th October - 1st November:

http://www.katharateam.com/Nweb/Events/melbourne-oct2009.htm

SUNSHINE COAST, QLD 6th November - 8th November:

http://www.katharateam.com/Nweb/Events/queensland-novt2009.htm

YouTube - Anna Hayes - The Science and Spirituality of Creation DVD 1 -1

[TempestGarden]

I just got the first Voyagers book from Amazon in the mail today and I am already digging into it. Wish me luck! :mfr_lol:

[Luminari]

Good Luck!

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[TempestGarden]

Well, I read the "Introduction" which is really about 2 chapters in length. I have a question for those of you that have already read volume 1. The book is arranged rather strangely because next you have an "About the Author" chapter and a bunch of stuff about the Emerald Order that all still fall under the "Introduction". Then, the book finally starts at "Chapter 1" so to speak, quite a number of pages into the book already.

The question I have is this... these last two sections before Chapter 1 are chock full of a bunch of Keylontic terms and it looks like it will be a really challenging read. Is it necessary to read this first before starting on Chapter 1 in order to understand and enjoy the rest of the book, or could I skip these parts and go directly to "page 1" as it were?

[Luminari]

Well, I read the "Introduction" which is really about 2 chapters in length. I have a question for those of you that have already read volume 1. The book is arranged rather strangely because next you have an "About the Author" chapter and a bunch of stuff about the Emerald Order that all still fall under the "Introduction". Then, the book finally starts at "Chapter 1" so to speak, quite a number of pages into the book already.

The question I have is this... these last two sections before Chapter 1 are chock full of a bunch of Keylontic terms and it looks like it will be a really challenging read. Is it necessary to read this first before starting on Chapter 1 in order to understand and enjoy the rest of the book, or could I skip these parts and go directly to "page 1" as it were?

You might as well, get it out of the way (but that bit 'chock full of keylontic terms' is repeated in the second book so you can skip it then) as it is the 'heaviest' part of Voyagers 1 - the rest of the book is like a stroll in the park compared to Voyagers 2.

Happy reading. :original:

Though if you are alone at night, book 1 can be a tiny bit unnerving.. I recommend turning on all the lights and calling in your guides and surrounding yourself with white light.

[TempestGarden]

I actually ended up reading all of the "Introduction" as well as Chapter 1 before you responded to my post. It took me a little while to get through it since there were so many terms that I had never heard before, so it slowed my reading a bit. I'm not the fastest reader on the planet by a longshot anyways, though.

So far, I don't find the book disturbing at all, but perhaps in later chapters it will be. A few nights ago I was by myself, it was nighttime and I was reading the DULCE book by Branton online and I found that to be very disturbing. It is an eyewitness account from a whistleblower as to what is really going on at the Dulce, NM military base underground. After all the stuff about the Reptilians, let's just say I was a little spooked. Here is a link, for those that don't know what I am talking about...

http://toddjumper.com/dulce/

I have yet to finish the whole thing though. I skipped it for now when the first Voyagers book came in the mail. :mfr_lol:

I am still having trouble with the concept of Inter-Dimensional and Inter-Time beings. I am hoping that the book explains the concept a little better as I get further into it.

[Luminari]

Strange Keylontic inspired children's art?

YouTube- SuiteOne10min.WMV

[Luminari]

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The Blue Lotus D13 Monadic Passage

[Luminari]

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[Luminari]

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[eleni]

Thanks for the last link Luminari- I'm already on part 13- excellent!

I read her books each night before bed and last night I had a pretty intense dream about the mechanics of the dimensional locks- I saw them and there was an opening that let in some negative entities- the entity was in my house and I tried to hide from it. I then tried to scream and no sounds came out- I them woke up and saw shadows in my room.

This morning my daughter's friend who slept over last night told me she saw shadows in the night and they really scared her. I told her about my nightmare.

[Luminari]

Thanks for the last link Luminari- I'm already on part 13- excellent!

I read her books each night before bed and last night I had a pretty intense dream about the mechanics of the dimensional locks- I saw them and there was an opening that let in some negative entities- the entity was in my house and I tried to hide from it. I then tried to scream and no sounds came out- I them woke up and saw shadows in my room.

This morning my daughter's friend who slept over last night told me she saw shadows in the night and they really scared her. I told her about my nightmare.

Yes they are fabulous Eleni, glad you are enjoying it.. its KATHARA Level 1 that video series. :original:

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/ka1m_web.jpg

Thats no good about your shadow people, I might have to astral project over there and kick their shadow-butts.
Leave angelic Eleni alone!!

Love to you, hope tonight is better.

[Jonathon]

Thanks for the last link Luminari- I'm already on part 13- excellent!

I read her books each night before bed and last night I had a pretty intense dream about the mechanics of the dimensional locks- I saw them and there was an opening that let in some negative entities- the entity was in my house and I tried to hide from it. I then tried to scream and no sounds came out- I them woke up and saw shadows in my room.

This morning my daughter's friend who slept over last night told me she saw shadows in the night and they really scared her. I told her about my nightmare.

Yikes - careful there eleni. May want to have someone take a look at you (there are some here who may be able to help you). Wonder what they were up to... I have heard that it is possible to get astrally tethered. In my opinion this happens via a contract that you enter to unbeknown to yourself. This gives me some concerns over the information you were reading before you went to sleep. We all have to be pretty careful about who/what we invite into our homes and minds (remember the mythology of the vampire).

I'll throw in a quick prayer for you just in case.

Hope this doesn't cause a negative response... don't feed it.

[Luminari]

Thats fine Jonathon..

And to the people private messaging me:

Respectfully, I am not answering any more questions re: this material.
The information speaks for itself. Time to do the work... you can speculate all you like but you will never know unless you read the books and watch the videos. This is wonderful empowering material on a higher level than anything else out there, I've done what I can to bring it to your attention. Ball is now in your court. Best of luck + love.

Luminari

[eleni]

Yes, agree about the material- resonates with me more than any other material I've come across in 30 years of being into this.I actually *remember* the material- I knew it when I was little. I once made a drawing of the universes/15 D time matrix and it looked exactly like hers- I can't remember whether I drew it before or after my first NDE back in 97.

[krystal]

YouTube- Anna Hayes - Bio Spiritual Healing Regenesis Lvl1 Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQkIL0d_xOg)

Your Utube Videos are not working... you might want to remove them from here.... :thumbdown:

[krystal]

ok, some of them are working I think... but some are not.

[Luminari]

Oh that sucks! I see they have just removed the video today... I think we have been narked on by someone here who is affiliated with Azurite press.

It really is a very unintelligent move by them... having that video in as many places as possible would be the greatest free publicity they could ever have and generated alot of $$ once people decide to futher the studies the programs are all quite expensive.

This whole thread is invaluable free publicity for A'shayana.

Plus this knowledge is the birth right of every human on this planet.

Eleni we are lucky we watched the Bio-Regenesis series when we did.

[morguana]

looks like another trip to the liberary..........too much to read and not enough hours in the day! sounds like a very interesting book :thumb_yello:
bou x

[Luminari]

Krystal I'm sorry you missed it but all the info was in Voyagers 2 & Angelic Realities, buy the books.

A'shayana did a brilliant job of explaining it all in the video which was the best part but I don't remember her saying anything that wasn't somewhere in her books..

[Sarahmay]

I'm so glad I watched every one of those videos before they were yanked!

[TempestGarden]

And to the people private messaging me:

Respectfully, I am not answering any more questions re: this material.
The information speaks for itself. Time to do the work... you can speculate all you like but you will never know unless you read the books and watch the videos. This is wonderful empowering material on a higher level than anything else out there, I've done what I can to bring it to your attention. Ball is now in your court. Best of luck + love.

Luminari

Well it's nice to know that you completely ignored my message. Thanks. I guess I should be happy though since most people just ignore me and I never know why.

For the record... I AM doing the work and reading the second book now.

This "community" is really starting to annoy me and I am not sure how much longer I am gonna be around. It feels more like a collection of people that lord their knowledge over others in an attempt to form some sort of hierarchy of people that are higher on the food chain of knowledge or something. That's the only thing that I can figure as to why the people here don't come together more and practice what they supposedly preach.

I'll think it over, but as Luminari so "eloquently" put it.... if I just need to "do the work" and read stuff online or in books, then I guess I don't really need this community of mostly skeptics anyway.

[Luminari]

Well it's nice to know that you completely ignored my message. Thanks. I guess I should be happy though since most people just ignore me and I never know why.

For the record... I AM doing the work and reading the second book now.

This "community" is really starting to annoy me and I am not sure how much longer I am gonna be around. It feels more like a collection of people that lord their knowledge over others in an attempt to form some sort of hierarchy of people that are higher on the food chain of knowledge or something. That's the only thing that I can figure as to why the people here don't come together more and practice what they supposedly preach.

I'll think it over, but as Luminari so "eloquently" put it.... if I just need to "do the work" and read stuff online or in books, then I guess I don't really need this community of mostly skeptics anyway.

Thats a shame you took offense Tempest, I thought I was polite & succinct.

I am not here to be interrogated by you or anyone else, if you look at this thread I have already been bending over backwards to help and answer questions.

My personal opinions and conclusions (being a beginner myself to this material) are totally irrelevant and not of help to you.

You also sent this to me;

The picture she paints in her books for humanity is not pretty one. She doesn't seem to believe that we have much hope

I really don't understand how you reached that conclusion at all, seems a very cynical perception that I did not get from reading the books..

Now you want discredit this "community", take a deep breath.
I know what its like to be ignored you wouldn't believe how many threads I have that no one seems interested in.. there's so many lovely people here but we are all different people with different priorities and interests and being here is so much more rewarding than not.

So what are you going to do now huh?! send me a bunch of abuse because I am a sovereign being and I didn't respond to your line of questioning?
Or are you humble enough to see that I am your friend and everything is going to be just fine.

[TempestGarden]

I am not here to be interrogated by you or anyone else, if you look at this thread I have already been bending over backwards to help and answer questions.

I asked you ONE question and this is the first time I have ever contacted you, so I hardly think I would call that interrogation. Also based on your answer here, I guess we all owe you since you went so far out of your way to help us.

This is exactly the attitude that I am talking about.... If you truly want to help other people, then this shouldn't bother you at all.

I really don't understand how you reached that conclusion at all, seems a very cynical perception that I did not get from reading the books..

That's because when I asked you this question I had not received Voyagers 2 in the mail yet and based on her radio interviews that I have listened to thus far, that is what I took away from the material she presents thus far. See, if you would have been polite enough to answer me back, I would have explained this further.

I know what its like to be ignored you wouldn't believe how many threads I have that no one seems interested in, I've learnt to get over it..

So, because it has happened to you before, that makes it okay to do it to others?

So what are you going to do now huh! send me a bunch of abuse because I am a sovereign being and I didn't respond to your line of questioning.
Or are you humble enough to see that I am your friend and everything is going to be just fine.

Calling my post abuse is a really dramatic way of stretching the truth.

My friend? I don't know you any better than the guy I pass on the street that I have never met. It seems that if you were my friend, you wouldn't have ignored me... pretty simple actually. I wouldn't have done that to people that I call friends.

[Luminari]

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[Luminari]

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/eckasha_ani_lbl.gif (http://www.azuritepress.com/)

[Sarahmay]

Luminari, I have most definitely appreciated your posts and you were instrumental in getting me off my duff to buy Voyagers 2, which I was planning to but hadn't gotten to.

Life changing, paradigm busting, illuminating...honestly, I will never look at things the same way and indeed I believe that my soul's direction will change course because of it. So thanks for your contributions (since you are probably feeling unappreciated right now).

[GaiaLove]

Get this thread back on track please and keep the personal issues in private message,
that's what they're for.
I will leave the posts as they are but will not hesitate to take action if this persists.

Thank you :)

[mntruthseeker]

Oh that sucks! I see they have just removed the video today... I think we have been narked on by someone here who is affiliated with Azurite press.

It really is a very unintelligent move by them... having that video in as many places as possible would be the greatest free publicity they could ever have and generated alot of $$ once people decide to futher the studies the programs are all quite expensive.

This whole thread is invaluable free publicity for A'shayana.

Plus this knowledge is the birth right of every human on this planet.

Eleni we are lucky we watched the Bio-Regenesis series when we did.

It was indeed very sad............I read this thread and watched the videos and still didnt buy the books until I heard Alex Colliers last video where some Michael bragged them up.

It took me awhile to get throught the introduction but if my neck wasnt so sore I would still be reading. LOL not used to reading but her book has caught my attention like nothing else ever has.

I was a little nervous thinking I was getting into something that would go against by belief of Jesus but I didnt............

Also, several people warned me not to get involved with channelled information and FYI................This is not channelled information at all


Thanks so much for putting up this thread as I ordered both books and can't wait to get educated by someone that I feels knows.

[FIIISH]

Luminari,

Thanks for this thread. I just ordered Voyagers 1 & 2 based on the
comments here and an interesting synchronicity.

I am a big fan of Star Trek Voyager, and was recently given a
cell phone with the model name Voyager.

I think someone is trying to tell me something!

Either way, I think these books are right up my alley.

I look forward to reading them.

[BROOK]

You know..when you get close the truth...there is always something that will disrupt it...have you all noticed that yet?

When there is truth that needs to be told lately, it seems that something gets hold of us or some how just creeps in and tries to derail the truth, and side track what is really important. Just an observation....keep your eyes open and your heart pure...you will see the truth. :naughty:

Lets stick to what the objective is here...getting to the truth in a manner that suites everyone...that is what is important above all.

With respect to everyone..the subject matter is what this thread is about. Thank you Luminari for bring it out. Sometimes we need to do a little work on our own, and see what is important in the content.

So take a deep breath..and breathe

YouTube- The Beatles - Here comes the sun

[Luminari]

Thank you so much everyone for the positive comments.

Even Kerry Cassidy started referring to Anna Hayes/A'shayana Deane a few weeks after this thread went up and is still making references lately.. I'm not claiming I had anything to do with it as these books have been out for years.. but what we do here at Avalon can indeed have an ripple effect on mass awareness that leads to bigger things.

Hopefully Kerry and Bill (and David Wilcock?) can fly to Florida where A'shayana lives and do an interview on stargates, reclaiming your DNA, ascension mechanics, the stellar activation cycle 2012-2017 and many other related topics that will tie in with the Camelot research nicely but on an even more detailed and multidimensional level.

[mntruthseeker]

Im am halfway though her first book and I want to say that I have never felt so "in the loop" as to the information she is bringing to all of us.

She is beautiful inside and out. I sometimes finding myself going over her words as I do not want to miss any of her meanings. Thats how important her information is. Its like my mind is devouring it and its something my mind has been missing

Kerry deffinately should be promoting her work

I can't wait for my second book which is Secrets of Amenti to get here . You mentioned it was the better of the two and I cant even begin to imagine that.

She speaks to our hearts and has all of our best interest in hers.

[Luminari]

:mfr_lol: This guy is strange.

"White pubic hair" :lmao:

I haven't watched all these yet but looks intriguing.

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May your lotums light up all your crystal bodies, :lol3:

L

[krystal]

Wow, this stuff is really out there.... my brain is rolling around:wall:

[Luminari]

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[Majorion]

You know, I see these kinds of very extensive materials all the time, full with diagrams and symbols and precisely detailed explanations, and I just think to myself; How on Earth could anyone just make all this up?

Undoubtedly, there is much truth to all these works.

Peace,

[Jnana]

When I see material of such complexity it triggers warning bells. The important truths are simple and uplifting. I don't understand why I should bother reading a bunch of detailed stuff that is more confusing than enlightening. The presentations seem to be designed to confuse - a mad rush through a bunch of topics. Maybe I'm just not ready for this.

[Luminari]

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[Sarahmay]

The important truths are simple and uplifting.


Wow. I think it is easier for some beings if you don't ask a lot of questions and don't rock the boat.

That is not my way.

[morguana]

fab diagram lumi :thumb_yello:
bou x

[Luminari]

Welcome. For further explanations of the above refer to the Kathara manuals.

[Luminari]

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[Initiate]

I found this link interesting reading.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/voyagers/esp_voyagers18b.htm#Secrets of Amenti

because the Seal of Amenti Spit in two anyone who ascended through it would become fragmented. Is this where we became twin flames perhaps?

theres a lot more history etc. listed.

[Carrie1971]

I HATE.....
No not really I in fact love..

This place enough to point out the posting of the books is a copyright issue.

Kind of like this place so could maybe someone look into removing the copyright issues?

I would not be happy to see the place shut down over something so silly.

Ending note. The books are deep you will be moved. It is like reading Taylor Caldwell you know your seeing truth.

[morguana]

I HATE.....
No not really I in fact love..

This place enough to point out the posting of the books is a copyright issue.

Kind of like this place so could maybe someone look into removing the copyright issues?

I would not be happy to see the place shut down over something so silly.

Ending note. The books are deep you will be moved. It is like reading Taylor Caldwell you know your seeing truth.

carrie thank you for letting us know, we will try to find diagrams that can be posted or email author of the book to seek athorisation of use of material printed
many thanks
bou x

[Stardustaquarion]

There are many links with usefull free information about keylonic sciences by following this link, just press the titles highlighted in blue rather than the product codes

http://www.azuritepress.com/techniques/new_technique_outline.html

there is so much material and techniques...enjoy

Love

[Stardustaquarion]

There is also an outreach program whith many groups worldwide that operates at cost so really, really cheap

Follow this link and choose your country

http://www.krystalspiral.com/

Love

[Luminari]

Whilst I understand the eternal copyright issue. I was doing my best to give the material as much publicity as possible to increase awareness of these teachings therefore giving far more back to the organisation in the form of new interested participants ie: customers. The few diagrams were not even a drop in the ocean of this vast body of material and served as signpost indicators to the validity and complexity of what is on offer. There is also the matter that this information comes "through" dearest A'shayana but is being given back to humanity as a whole. I hope you see my philosophical standpoint on this matter and understand it is my love for humanity and appreciation to A'shayana and the MCEO, GA and IAFW, that compelled me to post diagrams and information on this subject that would get people attentions and encourage further research.

[Stardustaquarion]

Luminari, you are a bright light bringing joy into the world, no one judges you

Love

[Luminari]

Newcomers;

If you go through this playlist (http://www.youtube.com/user/Cryptocracy101#p/c/47A5A8672BB8522A/1/OBJs3lbCzi0); only some of the videos in the ANGELIC REALITIES 45 part series have been removed, others are still there.

Same story with the KATHARA Bio-Spiritual Healing Regenesis Lvl1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/Cryptocracy101#p/c/668F4AAAFC1262E5/9/oftvSwp29QI) series, starting with part 10, many of these work too.

Just wanted to let you know, until you can purchase the real thing or if you are just looking into this for the first time. :thumb_yello:

[Luminari]

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Also, this is great, good sense of humour. :lmao:

[Luminari]

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[Dominic]

I have read her books and all I can say is "wow". I would be reading along and felt like I knew the info I was reading and I never studied it in this life.

Great series and a excellent foundation for all understanding. I can hardly wait for her next book.


freedom is near

Hi everyone

[FIIISH]

Ok,

I am now reading Voyagers I The Sleeping Abductees,

It is saying the Galactic Federation and Archangel Michael
Matrix are defectors of the Guardian Alliance, and that
they have joined the United Resistance with Drakonian Fallen
Angelic legions in promotion of the Earth Pole Shift Agenda.

"It is very difficult to detect what agenda affiliation these groups may
now have. Caution is advised in contact or channeling information."

WTF!!!??? :mfr_omg: :shocked:

[Luminari]

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*bump*