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mel
07-28-2009, 04:48 PM
:wall: I awoke at 5.30am to the F*****S spraying, I come home from work to sit and relax in my garden and they are at it again!! counted 14 in half an hour! I want to cry to release the anger but i cant. I woke up to the facts of chemtrails a year ago, but for me now ENOUGH!!!:lightsabre::wall: friends say dont worry about it! I am not worried I am outraged! or the majority of people you inform they look at you if you have lost the plot! I know about sending intention and asking for the universe to help, and orgones which is all great but I can no longer let it rest! Jane Burgermiester has inspired me with her courage and would be grateful for like minded souls to get together a plan of action,with me to do something, to press charges, etc. Any ideas?
There is a guy on utube called Brighton chemtrails who has put together a petition for the uk which is great but I feel the protest needs to be stepped up.
OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER. MARTIN LUTHER KING.:original:

Seashore
07-28-2009, 05:05 PM
Please see the thread "A Legal Militia."

It's about taking action in America, but maybe you can get some ideas. Also, I imagine that other countries will be discussed on this thread as time marches on.

mel
07-28-2009, 05:11 PM
Hi Seashore, synchronicity with your post was great and I will be taking some time to get a plan of action together, inspiring, thanks:original:

Seashore
07-28-2009, 05:20 PM
Hi Seashore, synchronicity with your post was great and I will be taking some time to get a plan of action together, inspiring, thanks:original:

You're welcome.

Good Luck!! :thumb_yello:

Karen
07-28-2009, 05:23 PM
There was a recent post about insider revelations about chem trails - maybe it was video - anyone know what I'm talking about/have the link?

Northern Boy
07-28-2009, 05:28 PM
Please see the thread "A Legal Militia."

It's about taking action in America, but maybe you can get some ideas. Also, I imagine that other countries will be discussed on this thread as time marches on.

I don`t want to sound like a ball buster here so don`t take this the wrong way SeaShore in the event of a pandemic the WHO and UN take over all legal authority and even take over FEMA responsibility the constitution will be suspended your rights at that point do not exist as the constitution lays it out . So going to U.S. courts at this point are moot you need to look into the UN charter and search for your prescribed rights under them to find your required remedy

The court system and all government decisions will be taken over by the UN. America is the big threat as it has the most individuals having weapons that could be used for self defense that is why you are fighting 2 wars and your troops for the most part are over there. It is convenient that the UN has a troop base that they can use anywhere and elect to use them in America instead of in Iraq or Afghanistan . They will tell you they are for peace keeping missions and humanitarian aid not for offensive purposes .

If fired upon they will defend themselves but you have never given them the authority to police your nation in the past why submit to it now refuse to recognize there authority and do not be afraid to tell them this, its your land go where you want to. Your leaders never asked you if you would allow an occupying force in your country to police it with out your permission . So the Question you must ask your self is WHY would you allow it ?

Seashore
07-28-2009, 05:49 PM
...in the event of a pandemic the WHO and UN take over all legal authority...

You're making a good point.

I know that the WHO is behind bioterrorism and the push to vaccinate.

We don't have a pandemic yet. Although the WHO has declared level 6, right? So I guess we have a pandemic on paper...

We can't file a petition for injunction with the U.N., can we?

It seems at this point we can deal with the U.S. Court System.

But this is certainly something to think about.

I think I'll send Jurisdictionary an email about this...

mel
07-28-2009, 06:12 PM
http://www.disclose.tv/members/action/viewvideo/25643/Ex_Government_Employee_talks_about
This is the one, mel

Stargazer1965
07-28-2009, 06:36 PM
http://www.disclose.tv/members/action/viewvideo/25643/Ex_Government_Employee_talks_about
This is the one, mel

Dead link...:rip_1:

Humble Janitor
07-28-2009, 08:48 PM
I don't see what a milita has to do with chemtrails and I don't approve of taking the streets as it only encourages them to impose martial law and make things WORSE for all.

This is the worst kind of disinfo that one can pass along.

TtC
07-28-2009, 08:56 PM
You won't stop anything by resisting it or fighting against it.

It's like screwing for virginity or bombing for peace. It doesn't work, nor will it.

By resisting it, you make it worse.

Humble Janitor
07-28-2009, 09:01 PM
To sum it up in other words?

A legal milita?

HA HA HA HA! LOL LOL LOL! :lmao::lmao::lmfao::lol3::trumpet::roftl::smoke:

Seashore
07-28-2009, 09:03 PM
I don't see what a milita has to do with chemtrails and I don't approve of taking the streets as it only encourages them to impose martial law and make things WORSE for all.

This is the worst kind of disinfo that one can pass along.

What militia are you referring to?

Humble Janitor
07-28-2009, 09:04 PM
What militia are you referring to?

Forming a legal militia as per the thread you were linking to.

Seashore
07-28-2009, 09:06 PM
Forming a legal militia as per the thread you were linking to.

What is your understanding of what is being recommended in the thread?

pineal-pilot-in merkabah
07-28-2009, 09:08 PM
YouTube - Ex Government Employee talks about CHEMTRAILS part 1


i copied it immediatly and posted it to my you tube channel:smoke:

Humble Janitor
07-28-2009, 09:17 PM
What is your understanding of what is being recommended in the thread?

Don't play dumb with me.

The militia stuff has nothing to do with chemtrails and I share the original poster's anger at chemtrails.

Seashore
07-28-2009, 09:24 PM
Don't play dumb with me.

The militia stuff has nothing to do with chemtrails and I share the original poster's anger at chemtrails.

Excuse me?

What militia stuff are you talking about?

Seashore
07-29-2009, 10:12 AM
Excuse me?

What militia stuff are you talking about?

The word "militia" is a figure of speech in the thread "A Legal Militia."

It has nothing to do with taking to the streets.

People who are interested in being citizen-activists to do something about chemtrails and other issues can learn how to use the legal system.

For your convenience, here is the link to the thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15298

Seashore
07-29-2009, 10:22 PM
You're making a good point.

I know that the WHO is behind bioterrorism and the push to vaccinate.

We don't have a pandemic yet. Although the WHO has declared level 6, right? So I guess we have a pandemic on paper...

We can't file a petition for injunction with the U.N., can we?

It seems at this point we can deal with the U.S. Court System.

But this is certainly something to think about.

I think I'll send Jurisdictionary an email about this...

I have had an email exchange with Jurisdictionary.com (http://www.jurisdictionary.com/).

I asked about having to deal with the United Nations rather than the United States under the circumstance of filing a petition for injunction in the case of an imminent threat due to mandatory vaccinations. The answer was that the courts in our own states have the power to stop this.

no caste
07-30-2009, 04:54 AM
There was a recent post about insider revelations about chem trails - maybe it was video - anyone know what I'm talking about/have the link?

Thanks for making mention of this, Karen. I watched the video that pineal-pilot-in merkabah posted (I assume it's what you meant?), and the other 4 parts. Quite a weird story, isn't it? I already concluded that chemtrails were part of a US missile defense system, with whatever other biologicals thrown in, for whatever reason. Not quite, according to this fellow.

This guy's information makes the US seem extremely vulnerable to Russian scalar weapons, from bio, psycho, energetics, gravity waves. (I'm not that convinced the US isn't also capable of this psycho RF stuff too with other means.) The chemtrail BS is a scalar defense shield, he says. It's a new layer of info for me. Overall, though, I just am sick of the cycle of me-you, you-me, bigger, best, most. What a bunch of wasteful idiots, the whole lot!! I'd like to see a quick, methodical international de-escalation. There are UN conventions that prohibit weather weapons, as well as the aerosol kinds of operations.

So much for the stupid UN. :thumbdown:

Anyway, one day, it will be over. Earth will be free to restore her balance. {my wish}

Seashore
07-31-2009, 09:45 AM
:wall: I awoke at 5.30am to the F*****S spraying...but I feel the protest needs to be stepped up.
OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER. MARTIN LUTHER KING.:original:

Please see the thread "A Legal Militia."

It's about taking action in America, but maybe you can get some ideas. Also, I imagine that other countries will be discussed on this thread as time marches on.

You won't stop anything by resisting it or fighting against it.

It's like screwing for virginity or bombing for peace. It doesn't work, nor will it.

By resisting it, you make it worse.

To sum it up in other words?

A legal milita?

HA HA HA HA! LOL LOL LOL! :lmao::lmao::lmfao::lol3::trumpet::roftl::smoke:

Humble and TtC,

Your better idea?

Humble Janitor
07-31-2009, 05:06 PM
I suggest living life the best you possibly can and to not fear death.

Better than living in a world of fear. No offense, but that seems to be your agenda (fear).

Seashore
07-31-2009, 05:26 PM
Better than living in a world of fear. No offense, but that seems to be your agenda (fear).

That's your interpretation of my agenda.

GaiaLove
07-31-2009, 05:43 PM
I suggest living life the best you possibly can and to not fear death.


Amen oh Humble one. I couldnt agree more. The fear that is embedded in the minds of the general population is a constant to such a degree most people dont notice or are to used to it to care. People with that in their hearts cannot embrace the feelings that alot of us are feeling now. I have been feeling the quickening the past few years and my family could tell you I am not the man i was only 3 years ago. I am full of love and empathy and will go out of my way to avoid any exposure to negativity. we will soon be getting a influx of scared and lost people when that 2012 movie comes out. Bring the fear levels up and the harvest tips to the negative.
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Just take care of your souls my friends

Seashore
07-31-2009, 05:48 PM
Hi Seashore, synchronicity with your post was great and I will be taking some time to get a plan of action together, inspiring, thanks:original:

How's it going, mel?

orthodoxymoron
07-31-2009, 06:43 PM
That chem-trail interview was chilling. The fun never, ever ends. Will this ever be a sane planet? It's so overwhelming. There are so many people and organizations with so much money and power devoted to completely $crewing our beautiful world and it's people. But then if we try to do something about it...we find ourselves on lists...and are accused of being negative fearmongers. It's as though the good people are labeled as being threats...while the bad people do their work unhindered. Up is down. White is black. In is out. Good is evil. Evil is good. Etc. Or so it seems.

Seashore
08-21-2009, 01:52 PM
Please see the thread "A Legal Militia."…



I don't see what a milita has to do with chemtrails and I don't approve of taking the streets as it only encourages them to impose martial law and make things WORSE for all.

This is the worst kind of disinfo that one can pass along.



You won't stop anything by resisting it or fighting against it.

It's like screwing for virginity or bombing for peace. It doesn't work, nor will it.

By resisting it, you make it worse.

...The militia stuff has nothing to do with chemtrails and I share the original poster's anger at chemtrails.



Humble and TtC,

Your better idea?

I suggest living life the best you possibly can and to not fear death.

Better than living in a world of fear. No offense, but that seems to be your agenda (fear).Amen oh Humble one...

The thread "A Legal Militia" is about we the people doing something constructive about issues such as chemtrails. Again, in has nothing to do with taking to the streets and nothing to do with guns. What it does have to do with is learning how to go to court pro se to file petitions for injunctions to stop things such as chemtrails.

I disagree that resisting things is counterproductive. In my opinion, resisting things is taking action. It's doing something.

In my opinion,living life the best you can is not a suggestion for dealing with chemtrails. Nor is the recommendation to not live in fear or not to fear death.

cosmictexan
08-21-2009, 05:31 PM
I think we need to remember that we are all at a different point in our awakening. I know at first I was mad as h**l when I first found out about everything and wanted to take some kind of action. It took me a while to figure out that we need to make changes from the inside out. I now just read the comments and think about how I can make changes inside myself to come to a better outcome. But I do remember how mad I was at first. So let's just try to get people through the first phase of awakening and not condemn them for it. The fear will pass.

Seashore
08-21-2009, 06:05 PM
I think we need to remember that we are all at a different point in our awakening. I know at first I was mad as h**l when I first found out about everything and wanted to take some kind of action. It took me a while to figure out that we need to make changes from the inside out. I now just read the comments and think about how I can make changes inside myself to come to a better outcome. But I do remember how mad I was at first. So let's just try to get people through the first phase of awakening and not condemn them for it. The fear will pass.

In my opinion, this thread has nothing to do with an individual's personal awakening. It also has nothing to do with fear.

Starlah
08-22-2009, 12:27 AM
[QUOTE=mel;156709]:wall: I awoke at 5.30am to the F*****S spraying, I come home from work to sit and relax in my garden and they are at it again!! counted 14 in half an hour! I want to cry to release the anger but i cant. I woke up to the facts of chemtrails a year ago, but for me now ENOUGH!
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Mel this is probably one of the best sites to do with chemtrails I've ever come across with many articles and links...there is a petition site as well.

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies?z=3&c=4&n=1&m=-1&w=4&x=0&p=14
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History is the lie commonly agreed upon.....................Voltaire

lucrum
08-22-2009, 03:43 PM
I'd like to second Humble Janitor on just living your life to the fullest and rid yourself of fear.

In the end, we will only open pandoras box if we ever were to create an uprising. Deny if you must, but do it peacefully. I will not ever hit back if there was someone coming to my home trying to force me into things. I would simply say: No!

Seashore
08-22-2009, 03:47 PM
I'd like to second Humble Janitor on just living your life to the fullest and rid yourself of fear.

In the end, we will only open pandoras box if we ever were to create an uprising. Deny if you must, but do it peacefully. I will not ever hit back if there was someone coming to my home trying to force me into things. I would simply say: No!

:thumb_yello:

mudra
08-23-2009, 07:04 PM
You won't stop anything by resisting it or fighting against it.

It's like screwing for virginity or bombing for peace. It doesn't work, nor will it.

By resisting it, you make it worse.
I agree .
What you resist you get .

Loving kindness
mudra

mudra
08-23-2009, 07:08 PM
In my opinion, this thread has nothing to do with an individual's personal awakening. It also has nothing to do with fear.

I believe there is nothing in Life that is 'nt connected to our state of consciousness and thus " awakening " .
Life must be seen from the angle of the soul, not from the world.

Love always
mudra

Seashore
08-23-2009, 07:08 PM
I agree .
What you resist you get .

Loving kindness
mudra

What do you base this on?

___________________________________________

On this thread, this issue has come up in relation to filing a petition for injunction to stop chemtrails, or what have you, in a court of law.

If you do this, you get the chemtrails?

Seashore
08-23-2009, 07:53 PM
Please see the thread "A Legal Militia."

It's about taking action in America, but maybe you can get some ideas. Also, I imagine that other countries will be discussed on this thread as time marches on.

I would like to again encourage readers to check out the above link.

mudra
08-23-2009, 09:55 PM
What do you base this on?

___________________________________________

On this thread, this issue has come up in relation to filing a petition for injunction to stop chemtrails, or what have you, in a court of law.

If you do this, you get the chemtrails?
YouTube - What you resist persist - Carl Yung

Deepak Chopra explains this in his 7 Spiritual Laws to Success; “The law of least resistance”, to judge nothing and be grateful for everything. This is easier said than done, especially when things just aren’t going the way you had planned, hoped for or envisioned.

How do you judge nothing, and be grateful when you feel bad, things aren’t working the way you had planned or imagined? Firstly it is a conscious choice and then it becomes a learned skill and eventually a habit.

1. Choose, to create what you want in that moment.

When you understand that this situation you are currently experiencing is like a burnt out star whose light is still shining and the energy that attracted this to you was released some time in the past. You will have power to not feel helpless, or like a victim and be able to consciously choose how you will think and feel from this moment on.

2. Learn a new skill – What can I be grateful for in this moment?

Ask yourself the question and listen for the answer. Some people ask God, or the Universe or their own subconscious mind or higher self. Ask whatever you believe the universal consciousness to be, the magic is in the asking. Its a distraction technique for the mind and allows your intuition to give you the answer and it instantly changes your resonance, your energy, as the focus changes from reaction to creation and gratitude. What goes out must come back, so isn’t it better to send out a vibration of gratitude rather than anger, frustration or disappointment which are highly charged, emotional and powerful vibrations.

If you practice it and eventually master it as a skill, it will become a habit and second nature.

3. No such thing as problems, only opportunities.

Jim Edwards, Internet Marketing Guru, said the one question that has made him the most money is “What’s the opportunity?”

You may say, there’s no opportunity, this is a disaster! Everything is ruined!

Yet, all the motivational speakers say that this is the time that you can dig deep down inside and get in touch with your immense inner power. This is the power that is referred to when a Grandmother has the strength to lift a car of a child.

When you ask for the benefit, the blessing, the opportunity in this situation, it firstly changes your energy to that of curiosity rather than negativity and sets your powerful subconscious mind off in the direction of seeking out any potential benefit or opportunity.

The difference between a lucky and unlucky person is that “lucky people are “skilled at creating and noticing chance opportunities, make lucky decisions by listening to their intuition, create self fulfilling prophecies via positive expectations and adopt a resilient attitude that transforms bad luck into good.” Excerpt from All the Money in the World – Bernstein & Swan

When you choose to resist nothing, be grateful for everything and be curious as to where the opportunities lie, you will be amazed at how quickly a negative thought, feeling or situation changes.

Barbara Pellegrino

Love always
mudra

Seashore
08-23-2009, 10:35 PM
...On this thread, this issue has come up in relation to filing a petition for injunction to stop chemtrails, or what have you, in a court of law.

If you do this, you get the chemtrails?

mudra,

I don't see an answer to my question in your above reply...

mudra
08-24-2009, 08:02 AM
mudra,

I don't see an answer to my question in your above reply...

This plane is based on dichotomies . Opposing one side in favor of the other is perpeating that game. You are pushing against a certain amount of energy and it will find a new way to manifest for you to oppose again.
I repeat : Life must be seen from the angle of the soul, not from the world.
Soul/heart sees no polarities.

Love always
mudra

burgundia
08-24-2009, 08:11 AM
I agree .
What you resist you get .

Loving kindness
mudra

So I will resist love....:lol3::wink2:

Seashore
08-24-2009, 10:41 AM
This plane is based on dichotomies . Opposing one side in favor of the other is perpeating that game. You are pushing against a certain amount of energy and it will find a new way to manifest for you to oppose again.
I repeat : Life must be seen from the angle of the soul, not from the world.
Soul/heart sees no polarities.

Love always
mudra

I have a different interpretation.

To me, doing something such as learning the course materials described in the thread "A Legal Militia" and joining with others for the project of standing up in a court of law beautifully carries out the principles:

"1. Choose, to create what you want in that moment."

"2. Learn a new skill – What can I be grateful for in this moment?"

"3. No such thing as problems, only opportunities."

mudra
08-24-2009, 12:04 PM
I have a different interpretation.

To me, doing something such as learning the course materials described in the thread "A Legal Militia" and joining with others for the project of standing up in a court of law beautifully carries out the principles:

"1. Choose, to create what you want in that moment."

"2. Learn a new skill – What can I be grateful for in this moment?"

"3. No such thing as problems, only opportunities."
I can see your interpretation Seashore and it has value.
I believe that if you follow your heart it's leading you in the right direction.

Love always
mudra