Burisch pulls plug on PC

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It would appear that DB will not be associating with K and B any more, due to a tainted crystal gift, and some security concerns!!!
Curiouser and curiouser!:shocked:


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« Reply #860 Today at 11:41am »
EAGLES DISOBEY IS FRIEND TO MANY, BUT ALLIED TO NONE BUT THE PEOPLE!

On May 22, 2009, the Eagles were married. Rob Simone and Kerry Cassidy were invited to the SACRED CEREMONY. The Rite of Sacred Marriage was pronounced over them, and the Chapel had been BLESSED.

The vehicle traffic that day was rough. Rob Simone made it to the Chapel, although a few minutes after the ceremony and entered the BLESSED Chapel, and participated in photographs, with the Eagles.

Kerry, phoned about being late several times, then declared that she was opting to avoid the BLESSED Chapel, and only attend the Reception at Dan's Mom's and Dad's residence. The Eagles, and everyone, but Dan's Mom and Dad waited for some time, expecting that she would show. (His Mom and Dad departed to their residence to ready the Wedding Cake for presentation to the Newlyweds.)

Upon showing at Dan's Mom's and Dad's residence, she provided the Eagles, not with a wedding gift, but something she said was for PROJECT LOTUS: a large quartz crystal. The gift was accepted and later tested by chemical analysis. The crystal was first tested for clarity and refraction and found to fit within the standards necessary for PROJECT ISIS. The chemical analysis determined that person(s) unknown had subjected the crystal to Silver Nitrate. Such a chemical is used in unusual and unclean "rites." The crystal was then declared unclean and unfit for further use.

During their wedding reception, Kerry advised that she had made inroads to having a major movie made about the Life of Dan. Ron Garner, the Eagles Agent, advised that he would be willing to listen to what she had to say. (Previous, Kerry had indicated that she was willing to write a screen play about Dan's life. Dan and Marci stated that they would read anything written about Dan. No request or previous information had been given to Dan or Marci that Kerry was moving to option Hollywood's involvement. No permission had been given for her to do so.) Kerry likened the issue of a movie about Dan to a "horse race" - one she was intending on winning, and during a later shorter visit, even suggested that a bidding war could erupt over Dan's story. Unknown to her, both Marci and the Eagles Agent were aware that such things rarely happen in Hollywood. Through all of this, Dan has maintained that if such a thing (a movie) was possible, and if it furthered a prosocial agenda, for a positive future for humanity, he was fine with it. It's not like he would ever be paid a dime, as he maintains a vow of material poverty (which is real) and as Marci OWNS Dan's true life story of meeting a J-Rod and working for the Majestic. During the Reception, Kerry also mentioned, AGAIN, that she wanted to meet ME, Stan. That was interesting as Gordon N. was then recently insisting to meet ME, Stan, as he had made a fool of himself by calling Marci a name in public, then proffered Kerry's name (with a couple others) as a go between in an attempt to still do business with Eagles Disobey, Inc. His requests were denied, not that money could not be made, but for the mere reason that he made a jackass out of himself with a lady: Marci. The request to meet ME, Stan, was UNUSUAL as it was during Marci's and Dan's Reception. During her comments she also stated that Gordon N. "HAD A THING" for Marci. An inappropriate statement, to say the least, less than 1 hour after she was married?

Her request was denied, by the Director of Eagles Disobey, Inc., but more importantly the HUSBAND of Marci: Dan!

Her insistence was UNUSUAL.

There is a game going on here, by others, and it is a dark one.

She departed the Reception, and the family and Rob Simone had a great time, sharing stories and good chat, amongst friends.

Zurich.

Soon after Dan and Marci showed in Zurich, they privately told Bill Ryan of the problems with the crystal, after he declared he had NOTHING TO DO WITH ITS BEING GIVEN TO DAN AND MARCI.

He shared his private thoughts as to what might be "going on" with Kerry, with Dan and Marci.

Following the unusual outbursts from a few in the Zurich crowd, Kerry Cassidy provided the "I, Kerry Cassidy,.." announcement on the front of Project Camelot, in opposition to vaccinations and words that SHE HAD NOT EVEN HEARD DAN SAY. (Again, very unusual.) Bill later advised that at the time Kerry wrote her statement she had not even heard the interrupted stream from Zurich. He and one other person advised Dan and Marci that she had received a SINGLE letter from someone named Cliff H. of Half Past whatever, in an attempt to smear Dan. Apparently someone had p*ssed in his internet tea leaves? Dan and Marci were then advised that Cliff H. said he would only go on the PC Radio show IF he could debate Dan directly! (This was an obvious attempt to gain fame by being heard with Dan on the same radio show. His request was denied by Eagles Disobey, as Cliff H. has NOTHING with which to debate Dan. We are wondering who the hell he even is? Obviously, that's why he wants to make a name for himself.)

Soon after Kerry's pronouncement by reported singular email provocation, Bill produced an anti-vax statement as well. We thought Project Camelot was about collecting reports from people, not acting as personal political advocates? Times have sure changed, huh?

During the 1 day layover, due to a plane's mechanical problems, the Eagles found evidence that perhaps the anti-vax movement is not so wide spread through Zurich, as the few loud mouths would have the people (and the Eagles) believe. That information will be provided in an upcoming promised report, on the front page of Eagles Disobey, within a couple weeks.

Given the second outbreak of "hostilities" - in Barcelona - Marci and Steven requested to know what options would be in place, for Los Angeles, should people continue their "antics?"

"Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:05 PM
From: "EAGLES DISOBEY" <marcia_mcdowell>View contact detailsTo: "Kerry at Camelot" <kerry>Kerry,

After the meeting is concluded, Dan and I would like to talk with you about security concerns we have, regarding Awake and Aware, most specifically about the audience in terms of this vaccine issue. I don't want to put Dan back into a position like what happened in Zurich. It was unfair to him, and dangerous to us both, and should have been controlled by the host. So, we will need to sit down with you so I can hear what you have in place for safety, to avoid a repeat of the Zurich situation.

Marci"

"Concerns - Eagles Security
Monday, July 27, 2009 5:08 AM
From: "EAGLES DISOBEY" <marcia_mcdowell>View contact detailsTo: support@projectcamelot.orgBill and Kerry, this is Steven, the "Mongrel" from the old Eagles forum.

We are hearing reports that Barcelona has been a repeat of Zurich, with people yelling and screaming at presenters? Is this so? I am in charge of Dan's and Marci's security, keeping them safe from people who can't or won't control themselves, and so I need to know if this kind of thing is expected in L.A.?"

Those requests were sent days ago. Even following postings on Project Camelot, using repeats of a single word used in our suggestion to Kerry (previously piblished) - NO RESPONSE was forthcoming from either Bill or Kerry. Unusual. My belief: "OUT" the Eagles Security Team, photos of which have been privately shown to Bill Ryan. (See above, reference ME.)

Due to the lack of response, and hostility being perceived as Eagles Disobey is NOT BUYING the anti-vax stance, as anything other than acts to justify culling of the population with an origin of person(s) unknown (read ILLUMINATI), by manipulating the people through fear to allow their being unprotected through lack of vaccination, Eagles Disobey has severed its relationship with Project Camelot.

WE WILL NOT BUDGE FROM THE SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE STANCE! WE WILL NOT BE TOLD THAT WE SHOULD MAKE BLANKET STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT YOU SHOULD DO! WE WILL NOT ENGAGE WITH ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU TO SIT AT HOME, IGNORE YOUR LICENSED HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, AND POSSIBLY SUFFER SEVERE ILLNESS OR WORSE, JUST SO THEY CAN RECEIVE FLEETING FAME OR POLITICALLY POSITIVE RETURNS FROM A MARGINAL GROUP WITH NO REAL EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THEIR NONSENSE CLAIMS!

YOUR HEALTH COULD BE ON THE LINE, SO WE ARE STANDING UP FOR YOU!

SEEK YOUR LICENSED HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS AND MAKE WISE DECISIONS FROM AN INFORMED POSITION - NOT CONSPIRACY THEORIES WRITTEN BY CRACKPOTS!

(Believe me, Dan will have his say on this, in the upcoming report. If it stings a few people, too bad, as your children and you are too important to fall to what is possibly an Illume plot to have you cull yourselves by apathy and fear!)

Furthermore, just like our becoming vilified by a small group of "very strange" Planet X believers, simply due to our unwillingness to buy into B.S. (where is Planet X?), we now face the ethical and moral decision about the next bit of nonsense: the antivax movement PARANOIA AND FEAR MONGERING. Our position will be proved as right about that, as what it has been proven about Planet X's NO SHOW. Yes, there are questions about what are called "adjuvants" which Dan will detail, but the outrageous claims made in much of the material he has been provided is only matched by the hypocrisy and frankly unhinged ramblings of conspiracy theorists who are championing much of the internet nut-blog-o-sphere, devoid of any sense of history, truth behind statistics, and balanced presentation.

First it was Planet X: then when Eagles Disobey told you the truth, it was attacked because there are forces out there that want you afraid, that need you afraid to keep selling books...........

Now, it is the vaccine question, and the expected attacks because we are continuing to tell you the truth, because there are forces out there who continue to want you to be afraid!

Same monster, FEAR, different salesmen. We knew that something was "up" with the post on PC about our world being "at war." EARTH IS NOT AT WAR! BUT THERE ARE EVIL FORCES WHICH ARE AT WAR WITH US! Some countries are at war with each other, as some have always been, but we are going to make it through this transition, AND WE WILL NOT LET THIS FEAR MONGERING WIN!

WE WILL NOT TOLERATE IT FROM ANYONE, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT BEHOLDEN TO ANYONE, BUT YOU, THE PEOPLE!

Such conspiracy theorists are content to let you and your children sit at home, leave yourselves unprotected, and maybe become ill or worse, ONLY TO DECLARE THAT THIS IS PROOF OF THE ILLUMINATI'S SCHEMES!

It may be. But the source may be different than they say. How is that said? Hiding in plain sight? Pots calling kettles black?

As a result of what we feel are actions (Zurich, and very possibly Barcelona) to stage PUBLICITY STUNTS to resurrect a failing stew of folklore, which many people are just no longer buying, the President of Eagles Disobey, Inc. sent this letter to Ms. Cassidy and the person with whom she was attempting to broker a movie deal, so that she (Kerry) could arrange a (self stated) "business" relationship with that company, and (I believe) in the hopes that just maybe Dan and Marci could be bought off by the thought of fame. "No dice, KIDS!"

"CANCELLATION
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:26 PM
From: "EAGLES DISOBEY" <marcia_mcdowell>View contact details To: "xxxx xxxx" <xxxx>, "Kerry at Camelot" <kerry>

We are cancelling our association with Camelot. This means that we will not be attending or participating in the conference "Awake and Aware" in Los Angeles because it has become apparent that our security and safety concerns are being deliberately ignored. Our Eagles Security Team will not be compromised for a single event. They are in place, around us, in a clandestine fashion and we intend to maintain that condition, for years to come, should a violent incident be attempted against us during unforeseen occasions.

We will also not be attending any meetings or arrangements made by Kerry, or Camelot for the purposes of trying to secure a movie deal relating to the life and experiences of Dan Burisch. Please clear any meeting involving Dan and I from your calendars.

I have made the decision to declare that Zurich ("A New World - If You Can Take It") was our last public venue of that variety. The behaviors, antics and uncontrolled potentials for violence displayed against Dan and I are unacceptable.

We have personal suspicions that such behaviors are being orchestrated for publicity purposes. We do not tolerate the disregard for safety nor will we be moved from socially responsible positions and opinions, for the sake of anybody's desire for fame or fleeting glory.

Marcia McDowell, Ph.D.
President, Eagles Disobey, Inc.


--- On Thu, 7/23/09, Kerry at Camelot <kerry> wrote:


From: Kerry at Camelot <kerry>
Subject: Re: From xxxx and xxxx
To: "xxxx xxxx" <xxxx>
Cc: "EAGLES DISOBEY" <marcia_mcdowell>
Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 4:46 AM


Hi all,


August 11 at 3pm is fine for me.


Best wishes,


Kerry"

Ron Garner has been informed that he doesn't need to show for any August 11 meeting.

What has not been counted on, is that Dan and Marci care too much for all of you, for any of this garbage! Sure, if something like that ever comes along, and good can be done with it, Marci will consider it. But, there will never be an exchange by use of a carrot of fame, for your health.

That is EXACTLY what I am perceiving is occurring, and all the while PR "uproars" are being welcomed by some others. It's following some people, no?

Bottom line: use a podium to play games with people's health, and this is what you get!

What do we expect now:

Vilification, statements that we can't be trusted (we can't be trusted by those who play such games with public health) -vilifications even though a primary witness Art ("Henry Deacon") has confirmed Dan's testimony, cyber-tea leaves from someone who begs to get on a show with Dan, and faked outrage.

At least we have been honest with the people who want to know the truth. All future requests to be interviewed or contacted by Project Camelot will be denied.

Getting bought off is FOREVER. My friends are not willing to pay that price, for any reason.

G-d Bless them for it!

Stan Goldstein, Psy.D.
Eagles Disobey
« Last Edit: Today at 11:45am by EAGLES DISOBEY »

[Seashore]

Avid do you have the link to the original handy and can post it for us?

[Reader]

Way to much drama for me.

[iainl140285]

Way to much drama for me.

:mfr_lol::thumb_yello:
Well said. Always somebody spitting the dummy over nothing:tongue2:

[Seashore]

Way to much drama for me.

Can you summarize for me what's going on?

[Reader]

Read the original post above.
I can't bear to parse through it again.

[Seashore]

Read the original post above.
I can't bear to parse through it again.

Thanks anyway! :original:

I was hoping to avoid reading it. So much to read; so little time!!

[Jenny]

I made the decision to give up my Mod keys when Kerry ordered Carol to leave as mod.
I know why Kerry did that.

Although it says I am a moderator, the colour of my name changed from red to normal.The admin still has to change that.

The above is totally in line with Kerry's antics.

Bill is another story and not connected to this debacle that Kerry causes,ego driven as she is.

There is so much more but I am bound to confidentiality.

I say; Dan and Marcia made the right decision.

[Avid]

Avid do you have the link to the original handy and can post it for us?


http://eaglesdisobey.net/

and their version of the Golden Thread....:original:

[Seashore]

http://eaglesdisobey.net/

and their version of the Golden Thread....:original:

Please pardon my ignorance!!

How do I get to the forum that your opening post quotes?

[Northern Boy]

http://the-goldenthread.proboards.com/

[Seashore]

http://the-goldenthread.proboards.com/

Thank you so much. :original:

[Myplanet2]

I'm surprised Bob Dean hasn't filed for divorce from Kerry as well, after her coattail grab in Barcelona, barging up on stage with a seemingly stunned Henry Deacon (Art Neumann), and shamelessly promoting herself and Camelot, even though it had nothing to do with Bob's presentation.

It would be a shame if it was Kerry's ego instead of TPTB that eventually ended up destroying Camelot and Avalon.

[cosmictexan]

Way to much drama for me to! I'm staying out of this one. It seems as if there are too many people involved already.

[Jenny]

I'm surprised Bob Dean hasn't filed for divorce from Kerry as well, after her coattail grab in Barcelona, barging up on stage with a seemingly stunned Henry Deacon (Art Neumann), and shamelessly promoting herself and Camelot, even though it had nothing to do with Bob's presentation.

It would be a shame if it was Kerry's ego instead of TPTB that eventually ended up destroying Camelot and Avalon.

2nd that.

[Stargazer1965]

I'm surprised Bob Dean hasn't filed for divorce from Kerry as well, after her coattail grab in Barcelona, barging up on stage with a seemingly stunned Henry Deacon (Art Neumann), and shamelessly promoting herself and Camelot, even though it had nothing to do with Bob's presentation.

It would be a shame if it was Kerry's ego instead of TPTB that eventually ended up destroying Camelot and Avalon.

Dark whisperings in Kerry's ear....Oh well....When I heard what Kerry's background was I knew it would be a matter of time. Bill....if you read this stick to the mission....It's working and no one person is bigger than the dream....Jamey

[Northern Boy]

EAGLES DISOBEY ANNOUNCEMENT:

The President of Eagles Disobey, Inc. (Dr. Marcia Ann Burisch {McDowell}) is proud to announce that the Executive Board has formally accepted a private short term contract with a Pharm giant to use the Director of Eagles Disobey, Inc. (Dr. Dan BC Burisch) in a RIV Biological Media Countermeasures QC role, related to PAHPA 109-417/BARDA.

The goal: delivering safer products, faster, against novel strains.

End of announcement.


This might shine a little light on the posts by avid at the top

[Seashore]

This might shine a little light on the posts by avid at the top

Thanks, Northern Boy.

Can someone translate "...RIV Biological Media Countermeasures QC role, related to PAHPA 109-417/BARDA..." into English?

[Starlah]

This might shine a little light on the posts by avid at the top
_____________________________________________
What I understand from "All This Drama" is that the Burisch's possibly realize that even though the coming Pandemic is manmade not a natural event i.e. corrupt pharmaceutical companies, WHO, etc. they have to prepare for the "larger picture" ....the fallout by providing an alternative for safer, better products, vaccine material (without adjuvants and live attenuated viruses) for the protection of populations by aligning themselves with a pharmaceutical company that is willing to provide such a vaccine AMEN...that is as long as all the 'Good' microbiologists haven't met an untimely end...there is still Dan Burisch.
__________________________________________________ ______________
When the going gets tough, the tough get going...........................(Anon)

[orthodoxymoron]

Save the drama for your mamma! Just the facts ma'am. Sometimes...people are a pain. Friends are friends...until they become a pain in the @$$! I sound like a misfortune cookie.

[TRANCOSO]

Dan 'the Man' Burisch pulls plugs, but who pulls his string(s)? Behind every great man there's often a woman. Put 2 great man in one room & they have a laugh & a drink together, but the moment their wives enter, the room ain't big enough for the both of them.
By the way, is it a coincedence that the name Burisch is an almost anagram of 'rubbish'? http://projectavalon.net/forum/images/smilies/mfr_lol.gif
:mfr_lol:

[Wormhole]

I think we need to be VERY careful here and not to make assumptions. I think that Northernboy's intel is very interesting indeed. Remember also that a committee was promised from Eagles to look into the virus and to determine if it was carrying a "manufactured signature" and if it was stable or dangerous to use.

I assume that is no longer on their agenda. I find that interesting.

We all know that Kerry is passionate and sometimes reckless; but that is no reason to crucify her, just because you do not like her. Her imperfections could make her an easy target or even a scape goat for those who can not or will not search for real answers. I would assume that a contract with a Pharm company would be broken if if they began research into vaccines which could possibly discredit them.

Yes, Kerry jumped up on stage, yes she is difficult to handle... So what? I find the idea that the wedding gift of a crystal being tainted from some previous ritual is just plain weird...

It all sounds very personal and seems like a great deal of collected excuses. The bigger picture service to others person would have ignored Kerry's antics, smiled at the folly of a child, and continued to do the good work... Which is finding out the truth behind the vaccines!!!

As to being fearful and needing security... please, there is more action at a basketball game. I'm not at all concerned for Dan and Marci's security. People ask questions, deal with it. It's not supposed to be easy out there. Life is messy. But that is NOT a security issue.

OVERALL:
This sad situation seems to be more evidence that we are emotionally infantile. Do not expect people you look up to to be perfect, you will be disappointed. Instead, look for their humanity. I fail to see any exhibited here.

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

[Reader]

Well said Wormhole

[Humble Janitor]

Not interested in petty drama.

More interested in the big picture.

I see plenty of drama from being involved with local politics.

[cosmictexan]

Very well said Wormhole.

[waitinginthewings]

Well said Wormhole

I second that wormhole........well said. Thank you.

[JesterTerrestrial]

OVERALL:
This sad situation seems to be more evidence that we are emotionally infantile. Do not expect people you look up to to be perfect, you will be disappointed. Instead, look for their humanity. I fail to see any exhibited here.

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

Well said wormhole indeed. :thumb_yello:

He said She said I said You said.

Oh man...I've been to a few weddings before!

Events like this can take a life time to heal. I wish you all well enough to come to your heads and disclose the truth.

THE WORLD IS WATCHING!!!


.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Thank you Wormhole, you have assessed the entire situation accurately with your vision and succinctly with your wise words, I wholeheartedly agree!

As we all continue learning and evolving through this transition I hope we remember to have compassion for ourselves and others.

Love & Light to all
<Truth>

[day]

Thanks for starting this thread... and to everyone who made comments. Here on Avalon we've started many threads incurring kindness, caring, insight, learning, humility, healing etc etc.....love, strength, spirit ....

I know its been a great source of light in my life. I am really thankful to have this forum to discuss things like this...learn from everyone and appreciate peoples insights into situations.

About being a whistleblower, I dont think its an easy job, it may look appealing in some instances when discussing exotic maths and physics, yet, these days are full of tension, conflicting emotions with so much at stake.

For those who just read the forum without contributing to it - I hope that in some way they too will be as enriched as I have been.

Thanks everyone for being so level headed about this highly charged and unfortunate situaltion and for contributing info to INCREASE comprehension without trying to undermine and defame anyone...

[Stargazer1965]

I think we need to be VERY careful here and not to make assumptions. I think that Northernboy's intel is very interesting indeed. Remember also that a committee was promised from Eagles to look into the virus and to determine if it was carrying a "manufactured signature" and if it was stable or dangerous to use.

I assume that is no longer on their agenda. I find that interesting.

We all know that Kerry is passionate and sometimes reckless; but that is no reason to crucify her, just because you do not like her. Her imperfections could make her an easy target or even a scape goat for those who can not or will not search for real answers. I would assume that a contract with a Pharm company would be broken if if they began research into vaccines which could possibly discredit them.

Yes, Kerry jumped up on stage, yes she is difficult to handle... So what? I find the idea that the wedding gift of a crystal being tainted from some previous ritual is just plain weird...

It all sounds very personal and seems like a great deal of collected excuses. The bigger picture service to others person would have ignored Kerry's antics, smiled at the folly of a child, and continued to do the good work... Which is finding out the truth behind the vaccines!!!

As to being fearful and needing security... please, there is more action at a basketball game. I'm not at all concerned for Dan and Marci's security. People ask questions, deal with it. It's not supposed to be easy out there. Life is messy. But that is NOT a security issue.

OVERALL:
This sad situation seems to be more evidence that we are emotionally infantile. Do not expect people you look up to to be perfect, you will be disappointed. Instead, look for their humanity. I fail to see any exhibited here.

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

But "in the spotlight" you have a certain obligation not to go off half cocked ...You are in a sense a leader and if the troops (us) don't think you can lead without leading us off a cliff then is there really a cause?

Come on....face it....we look like a bunch of nuts anyways.....Do we need someone out in front affirming the fact.

We need a calm head ....a cool temper to stop all this the SKY IS Falling **** and talk some sense to the world.

Kerry's knee jerk hi jinx isn't how I want to represented......

[Myplanet2]

Not just that. There are a lot of valuable interviews in the Camelot catalog. If Camelot is made to look ridiculous, then what happens when someone is referred to some of the interviews? Will it be like when someone links to articles on Sorcha Faal's site? Will it be an automatic "that's a proven disinfo site?"

There is a certain presumption that someone who assumes a position of leadership, will lead responsibly.

[Humble Janitor]

Come on....face it....we look like a bunch of nuts anyways.....Do we need someone out in front affirming the fact.



I don't think we're nuts at all.

Sorcha Faal and Blossom Goodchild are the real (albeit misguided) nuts. ;)

[tone3jaguar]

Wow, I guess I was right when I assumed that Dan had been instructed to feed the disinformation about vaccines. All you have to do is go on youtube and type in swine flu, then arrange the results by newest date first and you get this.

Proof that vaccinations are very dangerous and the CDC is corrupt and does not care.

CLICK HERE (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9mh9f_swine-flu-1976-propaganda_webcam)

Watch this one second after the above link, almost sends chills up my spine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQS_a-nmPY

So let me get this strait. Dan Burisch is supposed to be some sort of scientific phenom on the cutting edge. He is a microbiologists who is fully versed in all aspects of microbiology. Moreover, he is a very resourceful person? And yet with all of his expertise, self proclaimed intelligence, and problem solving ability, he does not know how to do a You Tube search?

Kerry gave him a nice quartz crystal that has silver iodide on it, and his instant conclusion is that she is responsible for it being there? He is totally full of s--t. Any retard can figure out that crystals change hands many times before they arrive at their final destination. She probably bought it from the local crystal shop after the shop owner had bought it from another dealer or private owner.

Dan Burisch is a shill for the a holes that he used to work for and now we can finally all see it. Only portions of his story add up and the rest sounds fabricated. He is now being a dramatic cry baby and this does not reflect the kind of consciousness that an individual would have if they had actually been through all of the circumstances he claims to have been through. People who go through extreme circumstances that are on the fringes and outside of the fringes of reality no longer have any interest in focusing on dramatic soap opera like details as he has in this post on his forum.

Dan if you are reading this, tell your bosses Brad Johnson once again sais kiss my white ass.

[Wormhole]

Stargazer,

I hear you. Remember that Kerry is representing herself, not you. At least, I do not consider anyone else to be representing myself but myself... if you take my meaning.

Yes, all of these accusations are unfortunate behaviors and sad. If you feel strongly about how you feel, perhaps you should contact Camelot directly and voice your concerns.

At least I am grateful for this: That we are able to enjoy our time on Avalon and post our thoughts with respect to the work that Bill and Kerry have done on Camelot; which bears fruit. We also bring up our own concerns, information, and opinions here and do a pretty good job of it most of the time. Keep in mind, Bill and Kerry rarely use the forum if at all. This really is kinda our place, and it is what we make it.

When things like this happen, it is unfortunate that some may feel it is a direct reflection on those of us that use the forum. I honestly could care less, as just being here makes me a nutter, in a way :lol3:. But if you feel strongly about it, then again I suggest you make your concern known through contacting Camelot and making level headed and centered suggestions to resolve the issues you have.

Good Luck!

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole:thumb_yello:

Nice vids Tone Three!!! Though I think they may have more of a protest if they had used baby seals instead of human children as guinea pigs. sick.

[gscraig]

Hello All,

I obviously failed resisting to jump in on this latest audition for the Jerry Springer Show, but this is why we as a species stand still. This is why the planetary condition is the way that it is now. Can't get out of our own way regardless how high the stakes are.

Moving on, I wanted to simply remind everyone the core issue regarding the vaccine. What's in this vaccine, who's giving it to you, etc is absolutely important information, but please know the ultimate area of focus here.
Our focus regarding this issue is having "the right to choose" being vaccinated or not. This is about your freedoms to seek information and decide who does what and what is best for your health.

Your civil liberties is the headliner, not the opening act.

[Wormhole]

Well said.

[777 The Great Work]

:original:

[jem284]

Wormhole
I totally agree with you!!
I think they should realize that Kerry is not here in America right now to defend herself. It sounds like there is something else going on, but I can't put me finger on it. Anyway, for what it is worth, I was looking forward to Dan's findings, but now I have lost all respect for them all!! And I don't believe what they are saying about caring for us the people. There is a lot of ego sounding words in that letter and that is why I have lost all respect for them. And who is to say they know what the truth is. What makes them the experts at all the truth anyway. They only know what they have experienced. As we only know what we have experienced. That to me is the only truth. And isn't that what the whistle- blowers do-- is tell THEIR truth. You can believe it or not that is you God give right to do . I don't think it is fair for anyone who has not experienced something in their life, to come along and say that it is a lie, just because they themselves haven't experienced it. I myself have experienced many things that I cannot prove, but I know in my heart and memory that I had that experience and KNOW ONE will ever take that away. I don't care if they don't believe me. It doesn't matter to me. So I am very sadden to see that letter because I thought Dan and Marcie where better than that. Oh well I guess it really doesn't matter anyway.:rolleyes:

[tone3jaguar]

Wow, 777 has had that one sitting on the back shelf waiting for the right moment, good job I finally understand esoteric numerolgy.

[777 The Great Work]

:lightsabre:

[Northern Boy]

Nice post 777

[cosmictexan]

Well, I was about to say how grown up the Avalon Forum is compared to the rantings on the Golden Thread at Eagles Disobey buy I see we are just as bad. I thought the thread was going good until we had to start trash talking. Now we are starting to enter the Jerry Springer stage as gscraig mentioned earlier. Let's just get back to having intelligent conversations instead of wasting our time on ridiculous claims as the Eagles Disobey members are doing.

[Zeddo]

Hi All

I had no intention of posting to this thread, however after reading through it the following came sharp and clear, so I will share it:


Naked In The Rain
music—David Crosby
words and music by David Crosby and Graham Nash
...........................

The clown sat speechless, looking in his mirror
Unable to remember how to paint his face
Staring at the image, slowly getting clearer
Wondering if his fear or his heart would win the race

When it dawns on you
what it takes from you
living under clouds of pain
there’s a storm in you
you don’t know what to do
Just when you think you’re going insane
you lie naked in the rain again

Fluttering pages of faces
no two alike
choice is your soul’s moment
for its light to strike
..................................................

We need to keep focused and to be honest, I have no idea what this cat fight has to do with enlightenment and awakening. We need to distance ourselves from such.

Love Light and Peace

Z

[day]

Hello All,

I obviously failed resisting to jump in on this latest audition for the Jerry Springer Show, but this is why we as a species stand still. This is why the planetary condition is the way that it is now. Can't get out of our own way regardless how high the stakes are.

Moving on, I wanted to simply remind everyone the core issue regarding the vaccine. What's in this vaccine, who's giving it to you, etc is absolutely important information, but please know the ultimate area of focus here.
Our focus regarding this issue is having "the right to choose" being vaccinated or not. This is about your freedoms to seek information and decide who does what and what is best for your health.

Your civil liberties is the headliner, not the opening act.
well said gscraig

It seems to me that there is a bigger picture going on here, something that we can only look at the effects, like symptoms - without seeing the root cause. Early Jan, there was a split with Michael St Claire, now Dan Burisch- there was an emotional outburst at Zurich, again in Barcelona with Steven Greer -- these flare ups are in fact working in the opposite direction for which the conferences were created for. High tension, misunderstandings, the pc site problems, project avalon went down. While the last two were easily and speedily fixed, the other problems are not.

It seems to me if we are going to chose sides, we are only adding to the turmoil and intensifying the problems. Stirring up the pot in a sense, and to no ones advantage.

These skirmishes do:
1. take up time
2. take up valuable resources
3. create stress
4. cause distractions


It can be rewarding to solve the root of the problem, something beyond character deficits and could be pointing to an outside influence disturbing very timely and valuable efforts to do some real work towards life saving co operation and collaberation between EVERYONE

We could possible pool our efforts and intentions to ensure a solid base for without that, project camelot and project avalon would not be what they have come to be- valuable resources both for information and collaboration.

Perhaps this is only a taste of possilble problems and flare ups that are in effect coming from an external source and meant to undermine the credibility of the key players.

In reality where would Project Camelot be without their whistleblowers and Avalon members who believe in what this grassroots idea is meant to achieve.

lets not allow dissension to create a separation and look beyond what it only appers to be. Perhaps Kerry and Bill also need that kind of solidarity and reliability from us as we do and expect from them and those that come forward as whistleblowers --

[cosmictexan]

day,

You hit the nail on the head. It is definately an outside source causing the conflict but now we need to look and listen and figure out who is causing the conflict. As time goes on and we move farther into the photon belt things will get even more confusing so we need to stand strong now and use our heads to figure this one out. If anyone has doubts about PC or Kerry and Bill, I suggest getting all the facts first then make up your mind. Isn't that we what do here, investigate, analysis and then come to our own conclusion.
Go to the Golden thread and read what they say (invetigate) and think about what everyone is saying or NOT saying (analysis) and then make up your mind about what is really going on here. Are we getting closer to disclosure and someone is trying to throw a monkey wrench in the works? Think about it but don't spew hate and anger, please.

[Carol]

Good grief! The clash of the Titan Egos.

We will not be taking any flu shots. When I worked at the Public Health Department as a Public Health Educator, the one year I did take a flu shot I got sicker then I'd ever been from the flu. Came to learn latter that the virus going around is not the one the vaccine is made for because 9 times out of 10 it is mutating. It is just a lucky guess or hit if the shot actually works and the vaccine shot actually kills more people then getting the virus does.

With respect to stuff going on behind the scenes overseas.. emails sent to me by conference presenter participants are furious with Kerry's "arrogance" and have lost respect for Camelot via her. What she did was identified as hurting her witnesses and that was how it was viewed by both the presenters and the international community as well.

[Jnana]

I'd like to hear Kerry's side of this, but even more, I'd like to not have this incident burn resources that are needed to get the latest footage out to the world.

Misunderstandings happen. Mistakes happen. Let's rise above all that, eh? I feel no need to choose sides or lay blame. Have a little compassion for people (B&K) who are doing a hell of a job in difficult circumstances.

[Wormhole]

Day and Cosmic Texan,

Thank you!

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

ps. Carol, I also ONCE many years ago had a flu shot and became very ill. Never again!

[Starlah]

Day and Cosmic Texan,

Thank you!

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

ps. Carol, I also ONCE many years ago had a flu shot and became very ill. Never again!
__________________________________________________ ____

It comes to mind that "blindness and ignorance breeds contempt" not from you Wormhole or Carol...from people on this forum whom I will not name since they are not worthy of my attention...
I will say though that Problem, Reaction, Solution is an art practiced by the PTB and they are very good at it...I would hope that it does not distract us all from the issues that need focusing on at this time in our History.
From a microcosmic (personal lives) to a macrocosmic (universe) we are trying to adapt to the forces around us and it is not easy...it was not meant to be easy as this is why we are on Planet Earth.
Forgiveness, Peace, leads to the release of Love and that is all we can do individually.
Take note though of what has leaked to the mainstream media recently...Gandhi's non-violent approach will have to be considered by all who choose to resist otherwise the Lid will come down if there is any violence
i.e. Martial Law.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026732_military_pandemic_outbreak.html
__________________________________________________ ______________
Kick at the darkness til it bleeds daylight.......................Bruce Cockburn

[Ammit]

Come on you lot, have you never done anything spontaniusly and ended up looking a pratt afterwards..... I have.:wink2:

[Stargazer1965]

__________________________________________________ ____

It comes to mind that "blindness and ignorance breeds contempt" not from you Wormhole or Carol...from people on this forum whom I will not name since they are not worthy of my attention...
I will say though that Problem, Reaction, Solution is an art practiced by the PTB and they are very good at it...I would hope that it does not distract us all from the issues that need focusing on at this time in our History.
From a microcosmic (personal lives) to a macrocosmic (universe) we are trying to adapt to the forces around us and it is not easy...it was not meant to be easy as this is why we are on Planet Earth.
Forgiveness, Peace, leads to the release of Love and that is all we can do individually.
Take note though of what has leaked to the mainstream media recently...Gandhi's non-violent approach will have to be considered by all who choose to resist otherwise the Lid will come down if there is any violence
i.e. Martial Law.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026732_military_pandemic_outbreak.html
__________________________________________________ ______________
Kick at the darkness til it bleeds daylight.......................Bruce Cockburn

I just thought I'd step up and play the mind of "blindness and ignorance breeds contempt" not from you Wormhole or Carol...from people on this forum whom I will not name since they are not worthy of my attention.......I'm not defending Dan and I'm not condemning Kerry....WHAT I AM SAYING..like your momma told ya...Don't play a fool in public!!!" :tongue2:

[Wormhole]

Ammit,
Yes indeed I have:naughty:! I am sure to add a few more follies to my list before my time is done...

In the words of Tiny Tim, "God bless us all, everyone."

Peace of mind,
Wormhole

[Stargazer1965]

Ammit,
Yes indeed I have:naughty:! I am sure to add a few more follies to my list before my time is done...

In the words of Tiny Tim, "God bless us all, everyone."

Peace of mind,
Wormhole
I also but when I'm in charge...I choose my words and actions carefully because I know folks are counting on me....

You don't see Bill doing this.....A lot of time Kerry is way off base in the interviews and Bill brings it back around.

[Wormhole]

She's really gotten to you, hasn't she. You and a bunch of other people it seems. I don't personally know her so I really do not have an opinion to share on the subject.

I've seen a lot of people act like idiots, just turn on the TV. I can only say that I do not take it very seriously. Alex Jones has an ego too, but puts a lot out there to consider. I hear that Robert Downey is hard to work with, but I loved Iron Man.

I just have a hard time shooting the messenger, I try to spend more time viewing the message. With that in mind... I've got more to search on the forums...

Love and Light Everybody!
Wormhole

[Stargazer1965]

She's really gotten to you, hasn't she. You and a bunch of other people it seems. I don't personally know her so I really do not have an opinion to share on the subject.

I've seen a lot of people act like idiots, just turn on the TV. I can only say that I do not take it very seriously. Alex Jones has an ego too, but puts a lot out there to consider. I hear that Robert Downey is hard to work with, but I loved Iron Man.

I just have a hard time shooting the messenger, I try to spend more time viewing the message. With that in mind... I've got more to search on the forums...

Love and Light Everybody!:wink2:
Wormhole

Idiots on TV get paid to be idiots...Not to say they are out in front of a cause to bring truth to the world.

I don't like Hypocrisy in any form....straight up.

I watch movies to be entertained.....I watch disclosure forums for a bit of truth not Kerry trying to find her mark in the spotlight which is what it looked to me.

Doesn't everything we hate exist because someone threw the "I'm sure they mean well" blanket over the big bloody mess.
Peace and Love to you to

[Wormhole]

I respect your opinion, Stargazer.
Peace of mind,
Wormhole

[Brinty]

My father once told me, "Son, the only people who can hurt you are the ones you thought were friends, and the only people who can misguide you are the ones you thought were your leaders."

I have come to realize that in the long run, we are the cause of our own disappointments in life because we believe the first thing we are told instead of checking if there is another side to the story.

Okay, so this takes time and effort - you say you haven't got the time, or aren't prepared to put in the effort? Well, all I can say is, "Tough titty!" Life never was, or ever will be, easy - but if the time and effort is put in, you will learn the TRUTH!

If you put someone up on a pedestal, sure as eggs they will fall from it - just remember, they are human, and we all know that humans can achieve great things - as well as make great mistakes. People have personalities that we either love or hate, but don't let that cloud the issue.

The important thing that everybody (or almost everybody) on this forum is overlooking, is that 'we', are indestructible. By 'we', I mean our soul, or spirit or whatever label you want to put on your 'essence.' Our bodies are just a garment that we wear for a very short time. As with any garment, it wears out and needs to be replaced. And, let's face it, unless you live in cloud cuckoo-land, one day you are going to wake up and find yourself dead.

Now, having had my monthly rant, I'll go and have a sip from the cup of life that is made from Light, Love and Laughter.

Cheers
Brinty

[orthodoxymoron]

Britny: I agree 200%.:thumb_yello:

[Starlah]

[I]Save the drama for your mamma! Just the facts ma'am. Sometimes...people are a pain. Friends are friends...until they become a pain in the @$$! I sound like a misfortune cookie.

__________________________________________________ ____________


Stargazer1965
Project Avalon Member

I just thought I'd step up and play the mind of "blindness and ignorance breeds contempt" not from you Wormhole or Carol...from people on this forum whom I will not name since they are not worthy of my attention.......I'm not defending Dan and I'm not condemning Kerry....WHAT I AM SAYING..like your momma told ya...Don't play a fool in public!!!"
__________________________________________________ ____________

Problem, Reaction, & Solution...Disinformation Agents
Never throw Pearls of Wisdom Before Swine..........
__________________________________________________ ____________
:trumpet:Kick at the darkness til it bleeds daylight.........Bruce Cockburn

[Carol]

Ammit, unfortunately most here are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes and only get snippets of this and that to form a judgment regarding the event. Discernment is a gift and one worth cultivating with life in general.

There is a reason past administrators and mods have quit this forum. We have more positive things to focus on and that is where our attention is these days. That is until some of this other nonsense surfaces and we just shake our collective heads not surprised at what occurred.

Burish's behavior is hurting his credibility as is Kerry's and HD (Art). However, I'm more concerned about what Burish is doing because one would think he had a following who would listen to him regarding getting vaccination shots. I seriously doubt if he does. Yet, what concerns me goes deeper. From his public stance regarding flu vaccinations one wonders if he has been compromised by TPTB. Is this a ploy to create confusion and fear? Being a psychotherapist it is easy to see how fear is used to manipulate people to do things against their better judgment. Why this support of flu vaccination shots now?

There are numerous questions this presents. Does he know something that he is not saying regarding this? Or is this just an off the cuff stance which stems from his basic beliefs regarding vaccinations in general? Is he part of a bigger ploy to manipulate the populace to getting vaccinations or a warning to raise awareness? And why? Why would he even raise this particular issue at an international forum..? Was this his topic to discuss to begin with? Unfortunately, I'm left with far more questions regarding this situation then any answers.

[Seashore]

However, I'm more concerned about what Burish is doing because one would think he had a following who would listen to him regarding getting vaccination shots.

I'm concerned about this also.

_______________________________________________

What about Northern Boy's post:

Quote:
EAGLES DISOBEY ANNOUNCEMENT:

The President of Eagles Disobey, Inc. (Dr. Marcia Ann Burisch {McDowell}) is proud to announce that the Executive Board has formally accepted a private short term contract with a Pharm giant to use the Director of Eagles Disobey, Inc. (Dr. Dan BC Burisch) in a RIV Biological Media Countermeasures QC role, related to PAHPA 109-417/BARDA.

The goal: delivering safer products, faster, against novel strains.

End of announcement.

This might shine a little light on the posts by avid at the top

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

ive always been on the fence with dan burischs info. nothing ive seen or heard so far has made me want to get off that fence. kerry can be abit full on at times yes.. dans workshop at the zurich conference was just a pile of useless fluff. irellevant to proceedings. i thought closely allying to dan burisch in the beggining was like putting all your eggs in one basket.

i dont care for small melodramas, im not interested:nono:

dan b = talking irellevant piffle so wont be missed. im going more along the lines of cliff highs take on him.. smells like bull£$%$ to me..

ps: very nice person but i might aswell listen to the local bartender for more relevant info k thanx:sleep_1:



thank god we wont get he dan burish life story from hollywood it would probably be as authnetic as 'DUBYA'

[Seashore]

thank god we wont get he dan burish life story from hollywood it would probably be as authnetic as 'DUBYA'

:mfr_lol:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

watching the live feed now on ustream. im still waiting to get dragged off the fence on dan -b. his info may be ok but he still doesnt sit right with me. im liking the conference anyway

[TruthWillSetUFree]

My father once told me, "Son, the only people who can hurt you are the ones you thought were friends, and the only people who can misguide you are the ones you thought were your leaders."

I have come to realize that in the long run, we are the cause of our own disappointments in life because we believe the first thing we are told instead of checking if there is another side to the story.

Okay, so this takes time and effort - you say you haven't got the time, or aren't prepared to put in the effort? Well, all I can say is, "Tough titty!" Life never was, or ever will be, easy - but if the time and effort is put in, you will learn the TRUTH!

If you put someone up on a pedestal, sure as eggs they will fall from it - just remember, they are human, and we all know that humans can achieve great things - as well as make great mistakes. People have personalities that we either love or hate, but don't let that cloud the issue.

The important thing that everybody (or almost everybody) on this forum is overlooking, is that 'we', are indestructible. By 'we', I mean our soul, or spirit or whatever label you want to put on your 'essence.' Our bodies are just a garment that we wear for a very short time. As with any garment, it wears out and needs to be replaced. And, let's face it, unless you live in cloud cuckoo-land, one day you are going to wake up and find yourself dead.

Now, having had my monthly rant, I'll go and have a sip from the cup of life that is made from Light, Love and Laughter.

Cheers
Brinty

LOL... love it Brinty!... that is about the best summation of common sense I have ever heard....thank you for grounding us back to reality!

[Seashore]

After watching the incident involving Kerry Cassidy with Henry Deacon at the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit, I would like to say that I did not see rudeness or unprofessional behavior demonstrated by Kerry.

She appeared to have the best of intentions to me.

For people who have not yet viewed the video, here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ngvIP0Za9M

[cosmictexan]

seashore,

Watch the Amsterdam Conference. It is very interesting. Kerry talked about what she did in Barcelona and why she did it. They talk highly of Dan Burisch's work and even call him a white hat. I was happy to see that they are ignoring all the flap. Here is the link.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/project-camelot

[Seashore]

seashore,

Watch the Amsterdam Conference. It is very interesting. Kerry talked about what she did in Barcelona and why she did it. They talk highly of Dan Burisch's work and even call him a white hat. I was happy to see that they are ignoring all the flap. Here is the link.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/project-camelot

Thanks. I will watch it.

[Seashore]

Thanks. I will watch it.

Not sure how to use the website...

The conference is today, right?

[solitaryman]

When two hyper-sensitive egos meet they can desagree or agree to desagree,it's all very human.But to start a war of words even if it still human,it is unacceptable,and I will always blame the first one to shoot.I don't want a war of words to start.We should concentrate and prioritize our Survival untill 2012.

[THE eXchanger]

real "white hats"
and, real "green hats" eXisted back in the grand cycle
of avalon/and, camelot
that was then, this is NOW
i'd be looking for "rainbow hats" that "spin" :roll1:

[Thunderbird]

Ever go to a town and meet someone who is almost exactly like a person you know in your own town?

well a good friend of mine is almost the spitting image of Dan, and personality is the same.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for the individual because they stick to their guns so to speak. They are very sensitive and very intelligent. When they focus on a project they are almost singularly minded and have little time for pleasantries and other functions of societal intercourse. I believe Dan believes what he details in his discussions and interviews about J-rods. I believe he is working on some crazy ***** with Lotus because...well...he is.

Further he is a kind and caring soul, but will *** and muth***ka up and not mince words if he feels threatened or if he (rightly or wrongly) feels like there is some BS goin on.

If he is on a scion leash and scion really exists then it is wholly feasible that he is being steered into a perception that is divisive and not constructive. It is possible that his higher ups want to discredit Kerry and Bill for some unknown reason. It is possible that Kerry unknowingly was steered in such a way as to create division. and its completely possible that this was just a complete misunderstanding and will be cleared up with some good clear convo.

I respect Dan. And i respect Kerry and Bill.

I know them (Kerry and Bill) personally and find them to be patient and their demeanor's delightful.

im sure this will all be sorted out in due time.

In the meantime, pleanty of mysteries to be solved, ignorance to conquer, and truth to be discovered.

the minute we stop co-creatively mindfully choosing our world is the minute it is being chosen for us....

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Thunderbird

OH SPEAKING OF COCREATIVELY MINDFULLY CHOOSING OUR OWN REALITY!!!!

Check this vid out:
http://www.youtube.com/user/iseeaworld#play/all/uploads-all/1/eYh0rmVQt64

[Myplanet2]

Always loved your attitude, Thunderbird. Truly a spiritual warrior for the light side.

Keep up the good works.

[orthodoxymoron]

The following is just an opinion based upon a feeling. Dan strikes me as being a very intelligent researcher...but that he is not a genuine insider.

Kerry doesn't go with the flow...which is actually a good thing...but it seems to annoy a lot of people. She asks challenging questions in a pointed manner which seems to make everyone uncomfortable. I have no problem with Bill or Kerry...but the withdrawl and absence from Avalon remains a mystery to me. I'm sure there is a very good reason...which might be difficult to reveal.

This Burisch/PC thing seems so infantile and retentive.

[cosmictexan]

The latest and the greatest from Eagle Disobey web site. Now he is trashing Henry Deacon and his announcement about Mars. Also said the uproar in Barcelona was staged and he makes it sound like PC had womething to do with it. Read for yourself.

"ANNOUNCEMENT: AUG/09


The Co-Founders of Eagles Disobey remain profoundly saddened over the recent events with PC, requiring that they sever their research and history sharing cooperation with PC. It's not such a matter of choice, as it is a matter of credibility. If the recently provoked and believed staged conference uproars, in an attempt to whip up otherwise honest crowds into a publicity frenzy, and which could have resulted in the injury of speakers and attendees weren't enough; now as they say- "Houston, we have a problem!" Eagles Disobey has been informed that a declared supporter of Dr. Dan Burisch's true testimony, alias "Henry Deacon", has recently taken the stage with PC in Amsterdam, and declared that he has personally been ON Mars - not imaginary travel, orbiter/lander image analysis, Remote Viewing, Shamanic or Astral Travel - but physically been ON Mars! Goodness, grief! Serpo, anyone? For the record, Dr. Dan Burisch makes no such claims, Dan's claims are based in REALITY, and so he cannot verify one bit of such a tale about any alleged trip to Mars! This recent "event" underscores Eagles Disobey's suspicions that the recent biased, and socially irresponsible, anti-vaccine political activism by PC, a group which once declared its ONLY intent was to give a voice to whistleblowers, has now gone over the edge from a once respected archive to one of dubious credibility and highly questionable and suspect intent. Are they falling to some need for greater interest, or it it merely 'a self publicized house divided against itself, not standing?' Matters not, from our perspective, as Eagles Disobey works for YOU, those we call "We The People" and will not break that faith with you for any reason!

Once more, we are saddened by these events, but having no active part in such publicity stunts, we cannot be expected to account for them. Further, it is our experience that most who start down this perilous path, never recover their credibility. While we hope this is not the case for them, that remains our experience, given what we have watched with other websites. Either way, Eagles Disobey was required to make a stand for the TRUTH and the RIGHT, regarding the vaccine issue, and now, rejecting the supportive testimony by someone who has just destroyed his own credibility.

Eagles Disobey is removing said testimony from its website, and references to the place from whence it spung.

Our credibility is intact, and will remain so, with legal affidavits and smoking gun evidence declaring the truth of Dr. Dan's and Dr. Marcia's testimony, which is now at an unparalleled level in the history of this genre. (That's probably why most of it is willfully ignored by ufology - it would make too many people question too many things, and cut into the next staged conference stunt. It's probably why Dr. Dan was told to make a statement, then told what to say (which he rejected), and to not get into the science of it...............because they feel, under all the public rhetoric, that you can't handle it.

We feel differently.

Eagles Disobey will continue to present the truth to the world, with cutting edge investigations and presentations.

For those who want us to go away-

DEAL WITH IT. WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED!

EAGLES DISOBEY!"

[THE eXchanger]

i never understood,
why KC & BR believed his "personal" involvement in the story ?

perhaps, some of his research is good-
and, it is true, almost anyone can research

i've meet a lot of milary people in my life,
NONE of them,
act like he does
nor, do they look like him, nor, do they speak like him,
nor, do they carry their shoulders like he does
nor, do dress, like he does
(i could continue this list, but, i don't think, i need to bother)

anyone asked to speak at an event,
insults their hosts, and, their paying audience,
by showing up,
in the type of attire,
these two came sporting :mfr_lol:

anyone who has to announce their departure...
was NEVER truly present !!!

[Reader]

We have a name for people like Dan in NC...."Turkey"........

[THE eXchanger]

so, why isn't there a

Bill Ryan - Thread

and,

a

Kerry Cassidey - Thread ???

maybe they could talk to us !!!

[bodzoyfa]

so, why isn't there a

Bill Ryan - Thread

and,

a

Kerry Cassidey - Thread ???

maybe they could talk to us !!!

i agree, exchanger. i understand that bill and kerry are busy, but some type of comment/response is due us. not because they have to justify their actions when there are naysayers in the room, but because Dr. Dan was one of PC's first posted video interviewees, whom they obviously endorsed (and actually refer to in other interviews quite often), and now the rift and documented seperation of Eagles Disobey and PC. we need to hear from you guys. we are paying customers of this information and when something like this occurs, the onus is on bill and kerry to let us know where the misunderstanding took place.

and i gotta say, i'm not sure what your motivations were, kerry, but it seemed like quite a few shameless plugs for PC when you so boldly jumped onto Bob Dean's stage in Barcelona.

you two (bill and kerry) are the medium of dissemination of this very important information to us all. so i implore you both to re-remember that if your integrity is compromised, PC/PA will go the way of the do-do bird.

[TAXMASTER]

When I first read dan's story on earthfiles, I was drawn in and fascinated. The more contact that I have with him and his demeanor has made me take a step back. I am not saying he is a fake but I am leary of his story. A man's actions with other people, if observed quietly, tell his story better than his words. It just seems that Dan and his insiders make such a big production out of the littleist things. The video I saw where he received orders from majestic seemed contrived to me. The mentioning of dan buying food for the homeless or whatever is a nice gesture but why announce it on his website. Pictures of documents for being a corporation are not news. Anyone can get them

He could have easily just said that he no longer wants to be associated with camelot and sure, we would all have wanted to know what was going on, but he gave out too much information which seems to be normal for them. I can throw around hundred dollar words to impress people on my intellect too, but I prefer to talk and use words that everyone knows. The master christ talked to the lowest denominator and got his message across to everyone. A lot to do about nothing!

Namaste'

[THE eXchanger]

i don't want to hear their opinions on Dan B or Dan C

i would like to hear more about
who they are, and, why they do what they do

[Myplanet2]

I've lost any sense of perspective on how any of these people, Whistleblowers, and whistleblower chasers alike, can continue to take themselves and what they do seriously.

I can't even visit Dan B's little world without running away laughing. All the cloak and dagger. The speaking in codes. The surrounding themselves with body guards. The clandestine meetings. Sheesh. What are we...12?

I think the polite thing to do would be to thank all these whistleblowers and their chasers, for a job well done, when it actually meant something, like before we all pretty much knew the score a 100 times over, and that it's really ok for them to get a life, preferably in sight of now. pack away the fedora and trench coat, or tights and cape, in the case of Watcher, and take a few minutes to smell the 4th dimension which has been settling in beyond their notice.

Or not. It's all about choice now, after all.

[Brinty]

The trouble with getting into the spotlight, is that after a while it becomes an addiction and before you know what is happening, you start manufacturing the 'truth' - or over dramatizing trivial things to stay there.

I know - been there done that - I was 12 at the time and I still get embarrassed when I think of it.

[jem284]

The latest and the greatest from Eagle Disobey web site. Now he is trashing Henry Deacon and his announcement about Mars. Also said the uproar in Barcelona was staged and he makes it sound like PC had womething to do with it. Read for yourself.

"ANNOUNCEMENT: AUG/09


The Co-Founders of Eagles Disobey remain profoundly saddened over the recent events with PC, requiring that they sever their research and history sharing cooperation with PC. It's not such a matter of choice, as it is a matter of credibility. If the recently provoked and believed staged conference uproars, in an attempt to whip up otherwise honest crowds into a publicity frenzy, and which could have resulted in the injury of speakers and attendees weren't enough; now as they say- "Houston, we have a problem!" Eagles Disobey has been informed that a declared supporter of Dr. Dan Burisch's true testimony, alias "Henry Deacon", has recently taken the stage with PC in Amsterdam, and declared that he has personally been ON Mars - not imaginary travel, orbiter/lander image analysis, Remote Viewing, Shamanic or Astral Travel - but physically been ON Mars! Goodness, grief! Serpo, anyone? For the record, Dr. Dan Burisch makes no such claims, Dan's claims are based in REALITY, and so he cannot verify one bit of such a tale about any alleged trip to Mars! This recent "event" underscores Eagles Disobey's suspicions that the recent biased, and socially irresponsible, anti-vaccine political activism by PC, a group which once declared its ONLY intent was to give a voice to whistleblowers, has now gone over the edge from a once respected archive to one of dubious credibility and highly questionable and suspect intent. Are they falling to some need for greater interest, or it it merely 'a self publicized house divided against itself, not standing?' Matters not, from our perspective, as Eagles Disobey works for YOU, those we call "We The People" and will not break that faith with you for any reason!

Once more, we are saddened by these events, but having no active part in such publicity stunts, we cannot be expected to account for them. Further, it is our experience that most who start down this perilous path, never recover their credibility. While we hope this is not the case for them, that remains our experience, given what we have watched with other websites. Either way, Eagles Disobey was required to make a stand for the TRUTH and the RIGHT, regarding the vaccine issue, and now, rejecting the supportive testimony by someone who has just destroyed his own credibility.

Eagles Disobey is removing said testimony from its website, and references to the place from whence it spung.

Our credibility is intact, and will remain so, with legal affidavits and smoking gun evidence declaring the truth of Dr. Dan's and Dr. Marcia's testimony, which is now at an unparalleled level in the history of this genre. (That's probably why most of it is willfully ignored by ufology - it would make too many people question too many things, and cut into the next staged conference stunt. It's probably why Dr. Dan was told to make a statement, then told what to say (which he rejected), and to not get into the science of it...............because they feel, under all the public rhetoric, that you can't handle it.

We feel differently.

Eagles Disobey will continue to present the truth to the world, with cutting edge investigations and presentations.

For those who want us to go away-

DEAL WITH IT. WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED!




In response to this latest message from Eagles Disobey,
I don't think it is fair for them (Stan) to say that Henry Deacon is giving disinformation.
I would like them to prove that he is giving disinfo. As I have said before, everyone has their own experiences that they can't prove they have had, they can only tell their story.
Can Dan Berish prove that the J-rod down loaded information into his mind. No he can not. He can only tell of his experience. Can Dan Berish prove that the information that the J-rod down loaded to his mind was deciphered correctly by Dan. No he can not. He can only say what his theory is.
Can Dan Berish prove that we avoided a major catastrophe this past march. No he can not. I am not saying that I do not believe what he is saying, is true or not . I am just trying to explain that it is not fair for them at eagles disobey to judge and say that HD is giving disinfo. How do they know, just because they are apart of MJ-12 does not mean everyone is telling them everything that is going on or telling them the truth. Or that they know everything about the cover-up about UFOs, What makes them the expert of everything that is going on in this world??? I don't think that they should have put their personal argument and insults about Kerry and Bill on their forum in the first place. I thought that was rude and inconsiderate. They say that they are for the people, well I wouldn't want them to be representing me because of their actions on their forum. I think it is very unprofessional and that is why I have lost respect for them.
I am a very spiritual human being and I love listening to everyone's experiences. It is so fascinating to hear others tell their stories whether they are true or not that is their experience and they believe it.
If anyone has read the books that George Green Published, it did say that this life we are in at this moment is an illuision and we can create our own experiences.
I think what Bill and Kerry are doing is wonderful and fun and I hope they keep up the great work.
Forgive me for my miss spelled words I don't see spell check on here and I am not quite sure how to do this messaging stuff yet, but I am learning.
God Bless

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i find i tinteresting that dan b can say arthur neuman (hd) is a disinfo agent. to be prefectly honest the least credible interview on camelot is dan b's! im not siding with anyone but agree with the sentiments of some of the above posters. all this does is destroy credibility. camelot did seem to have incredible momentum last year as the economic crises impacted and usa attacked russia on georgia.

It really did seem like it was all folding onto place. camelot lost its momentum somewhat from about febraury until now. im looking forward to what cemlot does best, interview whislteblowers, paul la violette, pete peterson and stephen greer are who im looking to hear from and i always like to hear george greens take on what the insiders in finance think they are gonna do next.

hope this puts a line under the nonsense and the site and forum can now move on whilst we still have the capacity for free and unscencored internet.:smoke:


[quote]Dr. Dan Burisch makes no such claims, Dan's claims are based in REALITY, and so he cannot verify one bit of such a tale about any alleged trip to Mars! This recent "event" underscores Eagles Disobey's suspicions that the recent biased, and socially irresponsible, anti-vaccine political activism by PC,[quote]

was anyone asking him to verify henry deacons trip to mars?
has the illuminati startd the planned depopulation of earth with vaccines and flu as the tool? overwhelming evidence suggests this to be the case, dan b is a lone voice in the conspiracy world if he thinks these vaccines are gonna be helpful. he could be right? 99% dont think so.
going to mars througnh a stargate over shadows tales of yellow cubes and meeting greys, do we detect jealousy ??
will bill and kerry clear this damage up when they return, as it is denting the credibility of camelot?
when this site first started it seemed on more solid ground than it is now, maybe they are going through a bumpy phase? these new interveiws should get camelot back on an even keel !! :)

[Luminari]

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/camelotcancel3.jpg

This is on Eagles Obey website.. the slanging match is heating up.

If this is for real than it sounds like Project Camelot will be Project Kerry minus Bill quite soon. But you could have predicted that anyway.. Bill has shown enormous decorum and politeness for so long now, its mindblowing how everytime he starts saying something... kerry just talks over the top of him and interrupts almost everytime he tries to say anything. No concept of manners whatsoever from her side, its astounding how anybody could work with someone like that.

Thanks for the good times B + K.

[waitinginthewings]

Someone is out to destroy Project Camelot......this appears very clear now.

[cosmictexan]

So let's not let that happen:lightsabre:

[Spiralmind]

I hope not!!

Please, Bill and Kerry, if this is true, try to rise above it and keep your eyes on the prize, as they say, and remember why PC was created in the first place.
You both have a lot of support from all of us.


Spiral

:lightsabre:

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[TruthWillSetUFree]

I agree susan, it has all but blown over and they are still attacking Kerry using personal correspondence, to me that is the epitome of a poor taste and very childish besides.

Why do they continue to pursue this B&K bashing? Wouldn't you think they allowed their anger to subside and gone on to more productive things?

We are all human and do human things sometimes they don't come off very well and sometimes we are magnificent, the difference is theirs get caught on camera and live forever!

I say live and let live stop the bashing, none of us are perfect, but we are perfect human beings with all our foibles, quirks and misgivings.

Love to all

[Phtha]

I agree eXchanger, whether the email is true or not, it is absolutely despicable to post it on the internet like that.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DQNumca3YWw/SUZRblFc4ZI/AAAAAAAABHU/J9n4cC2mGsY/s320/daffy-duck.jpg
Dan proves once again that he is quite the loony toon.


email can be altered/changed and distorted !!!

and, MR. BURiSH /or MR. CRAIN, & his wife
should NOT be publishing personal information
of a private conversation, that went on between two people,
of a personal nature-whether it is true, or NOT true

shame on the two of them !!!

[Northern Boy]

I
I can't even visit Dan B's little world without running away laughing. All the cloak and dagger. The speaking in codes. The surrounding themselves with body guards. The clandestine meetings. Sheesh. What are we...12?

How true this is Fritz. If they wanted him dead it would have happened by now. He puts a lot more significance on himself then is he actually worth. He never really did anything for me and funny how he still spouts off on the need to get the vaccine when all these Doctors are now coming out and talking about the Guillain-Barré Syndrome links and he is going to sign on for this vaccine ???

[Starlah]

I agree eXchanger, whether the email is true or not, it is absolutely despicable to post it on the internet like that.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DQNumca3YWw/SUZRblFc4ZI/AAAAAAAABHU/J9n4cC2mGsY/s320/daffy-duck.jpg
Dan proves once again that he is quite the loony toon.
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Just curious Phtha...is that a new town in British Columbia named "Canabliss"

It might be a good idea if I move there!:smoke:
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History is the lie commonly agreed upon................................Voltaire

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[Christo888]

Hey... I just read about all this in "Soap Opera Digest" but the names were changed. Does anyone know how to get ad spots on this one... this should be a real nailbiter!!!:lmfao:

I bet the drive-in theaters on Mars are packing the house for this one... I wonder how big their movie screens are? And I bet they still use real butter on their popcorn!!!!:mad3:

[deb003]

I agree susan, it has all but blown over and they are still attacking Kerry using personal correspondence, to me that is the epitome of a poor taste and very childish besides.

Why do they continue to pursue this B&K bashing? Wouldn't you think they allowed their anger to subside and gone on to more productive things?

We are all human and do human things sometimes they don't come off very well and sometimes we are magnificent, the difference is theirs get caught on camera and live forever!

I say live and let live stop the bashing, none of us are perfect, but we are perfect human beings with all our foibles, quirks and misgivings.

Love to all


I agree. Kerry, Bill, Dan, they are not immune to human imperfection and character defects. And we all have them. How many of us can say that we sometimes, we haven't shown some form of attention seeking, over dramatic, egocentric, controlling ways, views, or actions.
I don't hold Kerry or Bill as being without their flaws, just as I have them; but I am not in the spotlight like them and held for public judgement all the time.

[spaceman44]

:mad3:I think PC is under attack, this should not be allowed to happen, we all know that some people, not to mention any names have had to "straighten their ties" so to speak, with all that PC has un-earthed over the years, but that is the purpose of this project, to find the truth, if some people find it difficult to handle, then "tough", it's a tough world we live in. Thank you Bill & Kerry for all you work and commitment to PC, don't let the b's grind you down and please carry on with the good work. oh, and by the way I also think that Dan is credible, but only my opinion.