I am calling out Dan Burisch [Archive] - Old Project Avalon Forum (ARCHIVE)

tone3jaguar

07-30-2009, 01:48 AM

Dan, I know you may or may not ever read this. However, I feel it nessesary to share with you the perception of your recent rantings on your forum. Your goal was to obviously smear Kerry and the way in which you have gone about doing this is not the work of a mature experienced genuine individual. Your reasons for breaking off from Project Camelot are beyond non-believability.

Do you actually think that anyone is going to buy into what you are trying to accomplish. You have over estimated your credibility and have mistakingly used this false perception as a weak foundation for the comments you have made in a public format against Kerry and Project Camelot. No one is going to buy into all of this bull s--t you are slinging about security at a conference, someone not showing up to a wedding, a quartz crystal gift being contaminated with silver nitrate, and all of the other cry baby stuff that you used to justify your actions.

The truth is that you have been taking instructions from the very people we are all resisting against this entire time. There has not been one move you have made that has not been totally manufactured by them. They say tell about the grays, so you tell about the grays and earn the trust of the listener.

Ah, now that you have the trust you try to abuse it and use it against your followers by telling them rediculousness about flu vaccines being safe. Even the newbs to the alternative media are aware of the dangers of flu vaccines. Not the conjecture, the actual documented dangers as seen in this very real and true video

YouTube - CBS Documentary on 1976 Swine Flu - Part 1

YouTube - CBS Documentary on 1976 Swine Flu - Part 2

Dan Burisch, I now wish you would just crawl back into the hole you came from before the first Project Camelot video ever happened, and would be perfectly happy to never hear any thing else about you ever again. You are a lier and are now playing the victim because your attempt at convincing people to gamble with an unessesary vaccination has back fired in your face. Wow, good instincts are priceless and you don't seem to have much in that department.

The people you represent are trying to follow through with their plans for population reduction and you are more than happy to help them with these matters. You already admitted in the conference tape that they sent you to the Project Camelot conference and told you what to talk about there. Are we supposed to some how believe that the disinformation you tried to preach about vaccinations is not part of that information package?

Good try, but the people you are trying to trick are more clever and intelligent than you estimated and very few if not any of us are going to buy into anything you ever have to say again. You just took your public credibility and threw it in the garbage. Good job!

JesterTerrestrial

07-30-2009, 02:10 AM

You just took your public credibility and threw it in the garbage. Good job!

Do you think the looking glass saw this post coming? :original:

Christo888

07-30-2009, 02:15 AM

Do you think the looking glass saw this post coming? :original:

JT you're on a roll! :roll1:

tone3jaguar

07-30-2009, 02:17 AM

Do you think the looking glass saw this post coming? :original:

Who knows, just like any good and highly trained disinformation agent he has mixed the truth in with the lies. We will never know which was which. They do this to trick the individuals watching who have clear intuitive discernment. The truth parts turn up the antenna of the viewer, then the disinfo parts get integrated into that vibe. Not very complicated. I actually think that the stuff he said about the grays and the looking glass may have been true. However, that information had absolutely no logistical value to any of us.

dolphin

07-30-2009, 05:57 AM

Do you think the looking glass saw this post coming? :original:

jester.... heheheh:mfr_lol: thanks for the chuckle!

burgundia

07-30-2009, 07:01 AM

Do you think the looking glass saw this post coming? :original:

maybe a crystal ball would have.....?:lmfao:

orthodoxymoron

07-30-2009, 07:24 AM

Do you think the looking glass saw this post coming? :original:

Perhaps the looking glass was contaminated with silver nitrate.:naughty:

Helvetic

07-30-2009, 07:59 AM

tone3jaguar

If you criticize someone do your research before! It was not Dans decision to cancel the work with PC!
Marcia McDowell is the President of Eagles Disobey and she gave the order to do so!

Anchor

07-30-2009, 09:34 AM

tone3jaguar

If you criticize someone do your research before! It was not Dans decision to cancel the work with PC!
Marcia McDowell is the President of Eagles Disobey and she gave the order to do so!

Do you think that Dan did not consent?

Whilst (possibly) factually correct I don't know if your input here really blunts the thrust of what is being said in the original post.

That said, there is nothing wrong with you posting this - it is important if possible to keep our facts as straight and as clear as possible as it is easy for people to jump and get upset if they see one mistake and use that to trash the whole thing - so keep posting.

A..

tone3jaguar

07-30-2009, 01:04 PM

tone3jaguar

If you criticize someone do your research before! It was not Dans decision to cancel the work with PC!
Marcia McDowell is the President of Eagles Disobey and she gave the order to do so!

They are married, you are telling me that Marcia just does what ever she wants even if Dan does not like it? I don't care who made the call over there at pigeons obey, he is backing up one of the most overt sinister plans in history and is claiming ignorance. Ignorance to the truth in plain site is not a valid excuse to recklessly advising people to take a vaccine that is more likely to kill them than the actual pathogen itself. Have you even seen the comments posted by the admin on their forum? It looks like the rantings of high school girl. How much research do I need to do? I read the comments, now I am telling everone how I feel about them. Guess what, research is done and complete. Who's decision it was is semantics and it does not matter.

Helvetic

07-30-2009, 03:17 PM

They are married, you are telling me that Marcia just does what ever she wants even if Dan does not like it? I don't care who made the call over there at pigeons obey, he is backing up one of the most overt sinister plans in history and is claiming ignorance. Ignorance to the truth in plain site is not a valid excuse to recklessly advising people to take a vaccine that is more likely to kill them than the actual pathogen itself. Have you even seen the comments posted by the admin on their forum? It looks like the rantings of high school girl. How much research do I need to do? I read the comments, now I am telling everone how I feel about them. Guess what, research is done and complete. Who's decision it was is semantics and it does not matter.

I will have my eyes on the vaccine subject but at the moment I see pure vaccine paranoia all over here.
Btw: I was at the Zurich Conference and was present when those guys opened their mouths against Dan. That was rude not acceptable.

cosmictexan

07-30-2009, 03:36 PM

Helvetic you should go to Dan's or should I say Marcia's web site and look at what Dan is actually writing about PC and Kerry. Go to the Golden Thread and read for yourself. It is out of his own mouth not Marcia's unless she signs his posts with Dan. The paranoid and crazy things they are saying. I still have not made up my mind about the whole thing yet but I have a better understanding of the other side. Doesn't it seem strange that Bill and Kerry haven't said anything about this so far? I don't think I would respond to such crazy ideas either. To me that says a lot that PC has not put out a statement yet. Go do some reading and I think you will have a better understanding of what is really going on here.

Steve_A

07-30-2009, 03:57 PM

Hi cosmictexan,

I beleive that Dan Burisch and his wife know exactly what he is publishing. Remember that when we talk about their website, we are talking about a business. Although I think it stupid, he is right to call his wife director or president of such business. To me, as everybody knows that it is his wife, it seems a little pompous, however it could be that they like to keep their business and private life seperate, even if they are both working off the same laptop!

I think Burisch didn't like the fact that Deacon 'spontaneously' went on stage to agree with him. It was an invasion of space and, in my opinion, very unprofessional (unless it was agreed to beforehand). I work in Events and that sort of thing - trying to share the spotlight uninvited - is frowned upon.

The repeat performance in Barcelona was an absolute shot in the foot. I used to live and work in Barcelona and the Catalan people are very conservative about that sort of thing. I knew a guy called Carlos de Bravo, a Spanish Canadian who was presenting people in an Event and just lingered onstage whilst these people performed. The audience booed him away. It may be how they do it in Canada, but not in Barcelona!

I thought the audience with Bob Dean were extremely polite, especially when plugs were starting to be made. I even heard a "Thank you Henry" from one of the organizers and he still didn't get off the stage. What are we to make of that?

I understand the need to 'sell your fish' as they say here in Brazil, but that sort of thing needs to be kept on the fringe. Make flyers, do informal presentations in bar lounges, present the guy to key figures, even ask speakers to refer to the guy during their presentation, like "And Deacon knows, by the way he has something very interesting to say in Amsterdam next week".

It's interesting reading Burishs' comments that he seems to be trying to seperate himself from several people. Does he think that these people would hold him back in his endeavours? There must be a reason behind this.

But untill he comes out and says what he thinks completely, it's hard to know why.

Best regards,

Steve

Helvetic you should go to Dan's or should I say Marcia's web site and look at what Dan is actually writing about PC and Kerry. Go to the Golden Thread and read for yourself. It is out of his own mouth not Marcia's unless she signs his posts with Dan. The paranoid and crazy things they are saying. I still have not made up my mind about the whole thing yet but I have a better understanding of the other side. Doesn't it seem strange that Bill and Kerry haven't said anything about this so far? I don't think I would respond to such crazy ideas either. To me that says a lot that PC has not put out a statement yet. Go do some reading and I think you will have a better understanding of what is really going on here.

Helvetic

07-30-2009, 04:51 PM

cosmictexan

07-30-2009, 04:58 PM

Steve A.,

I agree with you about the onstage antics that were pulled in Zurich (which Kerry was not present) here is what happened in David Wilcock's own words from his blog. Link included.
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=482&Itemid=70

and Barcelona (which she was) link included to watch the video for yourself.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/

I also work in an arena where we hold all different kinds of events every day and a surprise like that is not appreciated but does that give Dan the right to say this: sorry it is so long and lengthy but read the whole thing. Dan's response is at the bottom.

Re: NEWS THREAD 2
« Reply #866 Yesterday at 1:00pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yesterday at 12:51pm, nodstar wrote:
Yesterday at 11:49am, EAGLES DISOBEY wrote:

Nodstar*, do you know anything about a crystal, which may shed light on unnamed situations?

I have it on good authority that Dan and Marci are awake, In Las Vegas, and that Dan might do some posting himself tonight.

Stan

Hey Stan ..

YES I DO !!!

Here's an alarming and true story from Oz

Quote:A TALE OF TAINTED TALISMANS

This is a true story related to me by a close friend ..
Names of the people and the forum involved will be kept in discretion by me
out of courtesy to the one who told me this story.

This happened in another capital city here in Oz.
Many of you know that I have friends who are moderators and admins at other forums on the net.

Earlier this year during a fone call with a close friend I heard this very peculiar and alarming
story.

Certain moderators of a forum were invited to meeting in a luxurious house in another city
during this meeting there was a basic version of a ritual .. not known to the uninitiated,
on the surface it just appeared to be a get together in a nice house, a meeting of moderators
and dinner etc ..

During this superficial meeting all the invitees were gifted with a crystal talisman as a gift.

Note

The use of crystals in Majiks is an old tradition,both negative and positive
these days the methods of crystal activation is advancing, as we discover how to use them
more effectively,

Crystals can also be used as location trackers by those initiated into the higher schools
those schools are not always "higher" in terms of the light.

Now ..

Some people are more susceptible to ritual and suggestion than others, particularly those
who are prone to depressions and unsure of themselves.

One member of this group who was invited to this meeting, had with good heart devoted a lot of time
to helping and communicating on the forum.

Several weeks later this person contacted my good friend, explaining that a depressive state had returned
and related the wonderful meeting that had transpired .. and had received a beautiful crystal
and that he kept it in his hand all the time ..

My friend asked him a little more about this talisman and how he felt about it ..
He had become obsessed with it ..

She gently advised him to put it away for a few days ..he became quite unsettled at the suggestion,

A week or so passed and my friend was unable to contact this person and became worried ..
and then received an email saying this person couldn't continue on in this life and thanks for being such a good friend .

Alarmed, my friend foned me, after a quick conference we decided to alert the police and by the time they got into the premises our friend was almost unconscious, but alive.

When our friend returned home from the hospital we gently and simply explained that talismans can be used in a negative fashion
and that it should cast it into the ocean, where it could be cleansed and not harm another.

Since this happened I have heard that the illuminati use silver nitrate, like holy water to empower crystals for negative purpose.

Moral of the story ..

Be careful who you accept talismans from, make sure there is a love connection.
NOTHING else will do

love to you all

Nodstar*

Gee, what an unsettling "coincidence" - it just so happens that when Marcia and myself went on our honeymoon, aboard a cruise ship, we just happened to throw a crystal overboard into the Pacific Ocean for cleansing.

Noddy, great work watching over your friend. Yes, nothing else but love will do!

What a "coincidence?"

Love (which comes in many packages),
Dan

and another post later in the same thread explaining his Illuminati experiences:

Yesterday at 1:05pm, nodstar wrote:Hiya Dan ..

It is my FIRM belief that

LOVE IS THE GLUE OF THE UNIVERSE

Peace Out
and much love to you all

Nodstar*

Hey, Nod! Yes, it is! And...that story about the talisman...yes...I understand it to be a true one indeed. It alarmed me the first time I heard it, from a different source.

Interesting! When I was first made a member of the LAMS, with that subgroup connected to the Illumes, they used to have get-togethers just like that. On the surface, they always looked unpretentious, yet had a strange feeling about them...that was the undercurrent and usually resulted in just that: a gifting process. Of course, at 13 I had no clue, and was barely understanding at 16 when the big play from the Illume fourth council was made. My Roman Catholic upbringing was enough to tell me that the symbols I was seeing were "wrong" and when the gifting occurred, they always wanted me to demonstrate receipt in front of them. (In some cases it was a mere bottle of Immersion Oil, and in other cases, gifts of money, but always requested opened in front of them. Recently, Marcia and I were given many gifts, but only 1 came with the admonition that I should open it in the person's presence. I have had my wits about me since the early meetings, when I was a teen. I do not often miss a pattern, whether intended or not. I have grown, however, since then, to not show outward signs of pattern recognition, in case more information may come along as a consequence of such giftings.)

Dan

Just read for yourself what Dan thinks of Kerry and her gift to them. I'm sorry this post is so long but we need to get all the facts out in the open. So who is working for the Illuminati? You make up your own mind.

tone3jaguar

07-30-2009, 05:33 PM

I will have my eyes on the vaccine subject but at the moment I see pure vaccine paranoia all over here.
Btw: I was at the Zurich Conference and was present when those guys opened their mouths against Dan. That was rude not acceptable.

There is alot of fear at the moment about this possible forced vaccination business. However, I would not classify it as paranoia. My version of the word paranoia is when people are afraid of somthing or somethings for no valid reason, or a fabricated reason. The videos I posted in this thread fall into the category of justified concern to all of those who watch it, far from paranoia. I thought that all of this resurgence of swine flu talk was all made up and disinformation myself until I started seeing more and more non-alternative media reports comming in that where backing up what the alternative media had said was going to happen. This put me on red alert and prompted me to draw my conclusions which I can see no assumptions being made in. Then I started this thread. If those of us who are awake do not scream out loud collectively to the drones to look out because they are standing on the train tracks and the train is comming then who will?

tone3jaguar

07-30-2009, 05:36 PM

I think Burisch didn't like the fact that Deacon 'spontaneously' went on stage to agree with him. It was an invasion of space and, in my opinion, very unprofessional (unless it was agreed to beforehand). I work in Events and that sort of thing - trying to share the spotlight uninvited - is frowned upon.

I thought that he went up on stage with Brian O'leary?

cosmictexan

07-30-2009, 05:39 PM

It was with Brian O'Leary. See the link to David Wilcock's blog above in my long post.

tone3jaguar

07-30-2009, 06:21 PM

Oh wait Dan Burisch, I guess I was wrong to assume that they would do it the same way as back in 1976 when they tested the vaccine on the entire population. Instead this time they are going to use 12,000 Oklahoma School children as the test subjects. The innocent are going to be the first to get hit, good thing you are standing up for the scum bag owned pharmaceutical companies making the vaccines. Good Job

YouTube - Kids used to test flu vaccine?

tone3jaguar

07-30-2009, 06:57 PM

Wow its a good thing that Dr. Dan Burisch has decided to review the data and give us a definitive verdict on weather or not vaccines are used as a form of eugenics or not. It is not like anyone else ever has done that. Oh what, multiple people already have analysed the data and found out that they are dangerous. Good thing the Dan Burisch is on the case or else we would never know if vaccines had caused autism and other neurological disorders in children and adults. What a f--king joke, I hope all of the people responsible for this end up in -4d and live end up living through the equivalent of hell. Oh wait, I don't have to hope for that, it is exactly what is going to happen. Have fun in "underverse" scumbags!

YouTube - The Dangers of Vaccines - Part 1 (Swine Flu H1N1 HPV MMR Gardasil Autism Thimerosal)
YouTube - The Dangers of Vaccines - Part 2 (Swine Flu H1N1 HPV MMR Gardasil Autism Thimerosal)

tone3jaguar

07-30-2009, 07:24 PM

Here you go Dan Burisch, watch this and get a clue

YouTube - WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP

Steve_A

07-30-2009, 07:28 PM

Hi tone3jaguar,

Yes you are right it was whilst Brian O'Leary, but he mentions Burisch saying that Burisch is right.

Was Burisch thinking that Deacon was trying to steal his thunder, like he thought that Deacon thought he needed his aval to give credibility to his words?

Like I said, it really is difficult to understand what is passing through a persons' mind without them spelling it out.

Either way, whatever it was, it seemed to be a 'last straw' sort of thing.

Best regards,

Steve

I thought that he went up on stage with Brian O'leary?

DAYDREAMER

07-30-2009, 10:31 PM

If Dan Burisch is distancing himself from Project Camelot, then I am glad. He is no more than a phony disinformation agent. I have come to this conclusion after watching many videos of him and reading interviews and reports about him. He can go tell stories somewhere else.

Visvasa144

07-31-2009, 12:28 AM

:naughty:

giovonni

07-31-2009, 03:47 AM

Kerry vs Dan :wink2:

:mad3:All Right> Drop that Flu vacine syringe Dan:mf_plasmawhore:

oops!....... or I'll shoot :shocked:
http://www.condensate.net/images/lathair/gunfight.jpg

TRANCOSO

07-31-2009, 06:24 AM

As I said before, Burisch is a near anagram of 'Rubbish'. Coincedental, of course, but still, it was one of my first thoughts when I read the early interview transcript at Camelot.

What always struck me as odd, was how Burisch blew his whistle over very sensitive info (Looking Glass, J Rod etc.) in a manner as if he had no fear for possible consequence, from the organisations whose secrets he blew wide open.

Furthermore, Burisch even worked for those guys again, after he spilled the beans.

He also visited a private meeting in Vegas, where he held a speech in which he said some pretty nasty things to his mostly uniformed audience.

Here was a man who knew he had nothing to fear from anybody, because he had obviously powerful & influencial friends in all the right places.

Also his heroic action in which he managed to send the EBE back to his own time & planet, through a sort of Stargate device & the mild reprecussions he faced by his 'bosses'.

The longer I monitored Dan Burisch & Marcie, the less I got convinced of their genuine sincerity.

When I read about his opinions regarding flu vaccines, my trust in Dan & Marcie reduced to zero.

But all in all it's actually an unexpected & wonderful thing that, thanks to his growing ego, Burish started to overplay his hand.

Although I do think there might be quite a bit of useful information to be filtered out of what he revealed during his first appearences at Camelot.

So, Mr. Burisch, your time is up, you've had your '15 minutes of fame' & that's it.

In a small community as ours is, you only have a good name once.

dolphin

07-31-2009, 07:07 AM

please see peggy kane's take on dan and others. this is teaching all of us to make our own discernment of who to believe.

i agree w tone3jaguar.... the vaccinations are in place, legislative and otherwise to cull (eliminate) the major population of earth to better control and feed those sacrifices to the other entities here.

too much evidence to support the fact that these vaccinations are bioweapons!!!!

dan to me has always from the beginning seem to me either very naive, although may demonstrate accute scientific abilities and knowledge, but otherwise very suseptible to influence from the tptb and his wife.

tone3jaguar

07-31-2009, 04:14 PM

Uh Oh, the exchanger just emailed this link to me, it seems as though we have all been had by Burisch for quite some time. Others have apparently done their homework. I now feel sorry for David Wilcock because his relationship with Dan Burisch is now going probably cause him some issues.

CLICK HERE FOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORT ABOUT "DR." DAN BURISCH
(http://www.ufowatchdog.com/burischdirtbag.html)

Reader

07-31-2009, 05:23 PM

Nice work Jag, just about what I thought about this guy

Jrods my ****.........

burgundia

07-31-2009, 06:20 PM

judging dan burisch and his revelations I used my intuition only and from the very beginning a little voice in my head was telling me that there was something not right...i can't explain that, but sometimes you just look at the person and you know....
i have a similar, unexplained by logic, feeling about another guy....

Avid

07-31-2009, 06:46 PM

tone3jaguar

07-31-2009, 07:03 PM

Please folks - lighten up a bit - DB is a human being who has been used and abused by the PTB. Obviously!
In hindsight...
He is in a terrible predicament - to serve us or his 'masters'.
After reading all the 'negativities', and I am sorry for posting the "pulling the plug" stuff (which really needed to be aired) but did not want total negativity.
That poor chap is surrounded by controllers, and now it seems the big Pharma have their oar in again.
Please send love and positivity to this maligned person, and perhaps he will be able to free himself asap from the PTB....
Idealistically thinking
Avid:original:

Let me give a little different possible scenario and perspective on the situation. I understand where you are comming from and respect it. However let me throw another possible scenario out there. This is pure conjecture, and none of it is based on any personal knowledge on my part. However when I ask the question with my inner voice "what is this guys real story" the following popped in there spontainiously.

Lets say that disinformation department at what ever agency or non-agency is responsible for guarding the actual truth about super black projects has access to most if not all government databases. All government employees, including prison guards, take a multiple choice type of test that give the government a basic psychological profile on that individual. In case you have not read my previous posts link, it showed that during the time that Dan Burisch claims to have been working with the black ops he was actually a prison guard and a security guard at a casino in Vegas.

So said agency decides that they need to muddy the waters of the UFO movement even more than they already had. So they go into the database and do a search for individuals who both fit the psychological profile of someone who is good at being deceptive, and they are also in financial trouble. This would be quite easy to do by cross referencing a couple of databases. Low and behold they find two individuals that work at the same prison as employees and fit the profile that they are looking for. So they approach these individuals and offer them a job being disinformation agents. They keep their government benefits and don't have to go to work every day.

Am I getting warm?

Ravens and Doves

07-31-2009, 07:14 PM

When a person has his friends close and his enemies closer - and a few thousand neutrals in between - and your phone tapped and your parakeet chipped with AI (I imagine) - expcect some pretty wild, out-of-character behavior and statements.

My uncle worked at Gloom Lake (and elsewhere). He said he'd tell us kids what he did there only on his death bed. He died of a stroke that left his brian unable to let his mouth speak or his hand do much else but make strange signs (Dan also had a stroke).

We are in Rome and Dan is among those in the Puzzle Palace.

I don't know what he wrote, yet, but I know he's not being untruthful when it comes down to what he said in his initial interviews on Camelot. That's good enough for me.

If he and his wife are doing real harm to Kerry and this community and are not in the black-op cross hairs, that something different, but with cross hairs come little lazer beems and I, for one, almost caused some serious damage to an innocent person - and went a bit psycho - thinking something that wasn't true.

I need to go to Eagles and get back to yallz, but believe me, he's walking in a pair of shoes that are not on sale in the mall and I'll always like the man.

Paul

www.ravensanddoves.com

Spiralmind

07-31-2009, 07:15 PM

Let me give a little different possible scenario and perspective on the situation. I understand where you are comming from and respect it. However let me throw another possible scenario out there. This is pure conjecture, and none of it is based on any personal knowledge on my part. However when I ask the question with my inner voice "what is this guys real story" the following popped in there spontainiously.

Lets say that disinformation department at what ever agency or non-agency is responsible for guarding the actual truth about super black projects has access to most if not all government databases. All government employees, including prison guards, take a multiple choice type of test that give the government a basic psychological profile on that individual. In case you have not read my previous posts link, it showed that during the time that Dan Burisch claims to have been working with the black ops he was actually a prison guard and a security guard at a casino in Vegas.

So said agency decides that they need to muddy the waters of the UFO movement even more than they already had. So they go into the database and do a search for individuals who both fit the psychological profile of someone who is good at being deceptive, and they are also in financial trouble. This would be quite easy to do by cross referencing a couple of databases. Low and behold they find two individuals that work at the same prison as employees and fit the profile that they are looking for. So they approach these individuals and offer them a job being disinformation agents. They keep their government benefits and don't have to go to work every day.

Am I getting warm?

Wow, this theory is certainly very plausible, imo. I only recently became 'awake' and disinfo people like this just make it really tough for me and others like me to discover the truth for ourselves.

Buying into Dan Burisch's story like I did makes me feel really embarrassed now that this info is coming out.

:wall:

tone3jaguar

07-31-2009, 07:26 PM

TruthWillSetUFree

07-31-2009, 08:32 PM

Please folks - lighten up a bit - DB is a human being who has been used and abused by the PTB. Obviously!
In hindsight...
He is in a terrible predicament - to serve us or his 'masters'.
After reading all the 'negativities', and I am sorry for posting the "pulling the plug" stuff (which really needed to be aired) but did not want total negativity.
That poor chap is surrounded by controllers, and now it seems the big Pharma have their oar in again.
Please send love and positivity to this maligned person, and perhaps he will be able to free himself asap from the PTB....
Idealistically thinking
Avid:original:

Lying and misrepresenting oneself is NEVER NEVER acceptable

I do not feel sorry for people who are creating their own karma based in lies and deception. It was their choice to create their own "predicament" Besides how is he being abused by 'his masters' when he doesn't work for them like he claims to? I don't think he was even in Majestic!

Now it makes sense the way he acted on stage his defensiveness, his total lack of knowledge around the vaccine situation when there is so much available on the internet, the fact he brought up nothing but his own narrow view was weird

On top of this, accusing Kerry of wanting fame when they made up stories about themselves for fame and recognition. Always look at what an accuser is accusing someone of, chances are they are doing it themselves.
Kerry has never hid the fact she was looking to make movies and why wouldn't she want to make a movie on the people/topics she spends her life bringing to the world?

I thought it also curious in the middle of this confrontation that he brought up the fact that he and Marci feed the homeless people, like that is supposed to justify himself in some way. To me it was strange to bring that sort of information up during a heated argument.

I just don't understand if that issue of UFO magazine came out in 2004 why didn't anyone report that before? Doesn't Project Camelot have a vetting process?

Anyway it is the time for Truth to rise to the surface, from relationships, to governments and corporations to whistleblowers, and yes, thank God his charade of deception is over.

I too feel betrayed by both of them, not like I was a big fan but I did spend my valuable and even more so now, precious, time, my time, listening to him, time I will never get back as I do not trust even a single word he said as HIS OWN or something he heard or read from somewhere else or something he made up in his head from a sci fi novel he's read while being a parole officer in Las Vegas.

Believe me I defended this guy in the past, I gave this guy a lot of rope and he apparently hung himself with it.

In Truth....ALWAYS!

day

08-01-2009, 08:55 AM

You can find what he wrote about Kerry and Camelot over in the News and Reports section of Avalon in the thread with Dan Burisch in the title.

Thanks Jag for pointing out two things, when someone attacks unjustly, such as the attack on Bill and Kerry from Marcia and Dan, your antenna shot straight up and you brought it out in the open on the forum.

Second point is how you pointed out that this began because of what happened when Dan supported vaccinations. The whole scenario shifted, Dan and Marcia felt attacked, and then attacked Bill and Kerry - Their comments about the crystal seemed way off base, implying that Kerry had somehow tried to jeopardize the Lotus Project by giving a defective crystal, and how they were in need of apologies for the outburst from the audience... yes something is way off base.

We all want to be charitable and keep things cool, especially now with global vaccinations etc. but a perspective also needs to be kept. Its unfortunate that this happened in Zurich but when push comes to shove, another side emerges during stressful situations.

Psychic attacks could be responsible for some of it, but what about character? Do the actions of Dan and Marcia imply that felt they were doing Bill and Kerry a favor for coming to the conferences? Couldnt it also be the opposite as well?

its a great thread, and glad that you took a stand:original:

14 Chakras

08-01-2009, 06:54 PM

It is good to tell it like we see it I agree with this!

I personally believe it's very important for all seekers of truth to avoid group think at all times. Discernment comes from within.

I personally believe a big part of the problem with humanity at this stage is that it's natural for us to look for someone outside of us that has all the answers.

That's not gonna happen folks until we have fully enlightened Christ beings walking the planet (and they are going to help you to connect to the answers within you!), Burisch is obviously not one of those yet (I say yet, because I believe all people have the potential to overcome their egos and be reborn into the Christ Consciousness).

I want to post more on this thread, but am busy for the weekend.. so next week...

One of my thoughts in general for the search for truth is: Keep up the great debate, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater!

cosmictexan

08-05-2009, 05:38 PM

The latest update from Dr. Dan Burisch

BREAKING NEWS!
Researcher blames Dan for uproar at Barcelona conference - that DAN DIDN'T EVEN ATTEND!!!!!

Dr. Dan Burisch, noted Area-51 scientist who blew the whistle on Area-51 secrecy, the existence of an extraterrestrial housed in a secret lab beneath Groom Lake (S-4) and exposed the truth about the time-paradox and looking glass technology, "Refuses to Play Ball" in Zurich.

Called a "Hero" and cheered by the good people at the Volkshaus, Dan Burisch is later accused of "Not Appeasing" the mob . (Click Here to read
more )

http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/backpage_1.htm

What really happened in Zurich? And what happened after?
What prompted the conference organizer to later write Dan saying: "If you do not trust me for any reason, then all is lost."
What is lost? Their sacrifial lamb?
Well, I've got news for them, the Eagles are not going to be served up on the 'half-shell' for them, or for anybody else.

Imagine (given the clever maneuvering of the vaccine question into the panel discussion, and the publicity generating firestorm it created) .... imagine what the Eagles would have been walking into if they were still willing to go to the L.A. conference?

No.... The answer is Absolutely No. What do they think - that the Eagles went through all those years of education and managed to survive the hard crucible of experience with Majestic, without being able to recognize a bungled attempt to manipulate public opinion at their expense? Publicity at any price, is that it? The Eagles have sharp eyes - they get it - the conference organizers don't care if they endanger their guest-speakers, as long as they get a few more dollars at the gate? Right?

Wrong. (coming next.....)

I can't seem to find anything about Barcelona at all. I'm confused. He never states which researcher he is talking about but I think he is talking about David Wilcock (that is MY opinion) I have read David's blog about the trip to Zurich and a lot of the info in the above link goes along with the blog. Here is the link for David's blog and you be the judge. Zurich trip is about half way through the blog.

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=482&Itemid=70

franciejones

08-05-2009, 05:50 PM

Sheeple. not worth it

14 Chakras

08-05-2009, 06:47 PM

Ok So DB has a different opinion than you do on Vaccines. DB has an ego. DB calls himself 'eagle' of whatever. DB filed for bankruptcy at some point.

Therefore, everything he said is a complete and utter lie right? Well, I personally think there are more possibilities worth considering.

Ok, so the alternative story is this:

1) DB initial interview was mainly factual based on his actual experiences.

2) DB was chosen to work with Maji because he did indeed have some kind of connection to the Greys. Whether or not you want to believe it, hybrids are very real and there is weird stuff going on when they abduct people. Piecing together DB story, it does sound like at some point as a youngster he was abducted and something occurred that gave him a connection to the greys. I haven't read his interview in a long time, I don't remember the exact details here.

3) He, like many other scientist in our world, was involved in some of the many many many projects going on underground right now. It doesn't sound like DB was by any means a top dog, much more likely a very compartmentalized asset that was used from time to time for various projects.

4) One of their uses for DB was to communicate with this JRod fella because JRod felt more comfortable communicating with DB since whatever had happened in the abduction scenario as a youngster had brought forth some kind of connection here. This is not unreasonable, and it's similar to Matilda O'Donnell's story Matilda O'Donnell's Alien Interview for that story: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11323 It makes sense that the Greys want to communicate to someone they have some trust with rather than military personnel who obviously see no value in their life. They would look for someone with a good heart, and someone that there is a connection with. In this case, there was a connection because of whatever happened with DB as a youngster. This turned out to be a smart move for JRod as Dan did eventually help him out of there. The cosmic opportunity presented itself and in the movie of earth, which is much more exciting than joe public believes, got to play his exciting part for that time and help JRod home.

5) Note, that whatever happened with DB as a youngster is why Maji got him involved as an asset in the first place. They DID NOT get him involved because he is so sophisticated or such a genius or whatever.

6) As with all 'whistle blowers' DB has been given access to one very compartmentalized piece of the puzzle. He's never had any communication or knowledge of aliens other than Greys, had action underground limited to a couple of D.U.M.B.s, certainly not a large network. He doesn't understand spiritual truth moreso than most on this forum. He doesn't have all the answers, but he does have some incredibly interesting experiences that were worth sharing.

7) It is cosmic law that what is hidden must be revealed in some way shape or form. What is done in secret must be revealed to the people to a certain degree or the karmic load would be too great for those who do things in secret to bear. Generally this is done in such a way that very very few will actually catch on to the hint, but the case can be made the truth was revealed and the hint was there.

8) If you know it's time you had to share some of the information about certain compartmentalized activities, would you maybe consider using one of your assets who a) there's no hard proof that he worked with you b) is flawed in ego kind of ways, in fairness as most human beings are! therefore only highly discerning researchers have any hope of finding and believing his stuff. Most want to have some kind of perfect news reporter person who is hardly human serve them up truth on a plate. That's the entertainment industry for you, but it's not reality. DB, with all his human flaws, is reality.

9) DB goes out and tells you his experiences. Some people listen, DB is drawn into his own ego where it's all about his little group and his ideas and he's got the answers. Now this is obviously not true. DB has experiences worth sharing and may still get some info from time to time from the inside, but DB has many illusions, including illusions of grandeur, like the rest of us and those who blindly follow him as some kind of a guru are indeed headed for the ditch.

10) Because DB is imperfect, doesn't mean his original story, which makes PERFECT sense as a puzzle piece in the grand puzzle of truth as long as you're willing to break through your pre-conceived notions of what can and cannot exist.

11) Whistle blowers have egos. They also have experiences that are worth sharing. Their experiences doesn't make them superior to anyone else regardless of whether others mistakenly think it does or whether they themselves mistakenly think that they do.

12) On this very forum, occasionally people attack each other verbally and may not coming off looking great to others who don't appreciate that kind of communication. We are imperfect. Dan Burisch is imperfect. I don't judge all of someone's thoughts, experiences and beliefs by whether they are perfect and right about everything, that would be ridiculous.

13) It is a fact, that as soon as someone steps onto the main stage and are revealing sensitive information, they will face psychic opposition. There are competing elites and differing agendas, and they do indeed have their psychic attack dogs ready to pounce wherever their could be a leak in their matrix. It is also a fact that whistleblowers and all others can protect themselves by working with Archangel Michael, but how many of them know that or do that? (almost zero right?). Psychic opposition can easily drag someone down into ego traps that really destroy their outer appearance and much of their work. In DB's place, it's not unlikely that he is facing opposition and it is dragging him down into the weird world of eagle ego...

That is a bit more rambling like than usual for one of my post, but I am standing here and letting you know, that my discernment tells me that DB's initial interview, however imperfect that he is, should not be discounted so lightly by those who are truly seeking the truth.

There are actually many cosmic lessons in the Grey story that DB has let us in on and I'm looking forward to digging into those at some point...

DB has opened the door on a lot of stuff, one or two pieces in the puzzle, and when you add in many other whistleblower materials the big picture of what's really happening in our world starts to come into focus... truth is indeed much stranger than fiction, where do you think fiction comes from?

tone3jaguar

08-05-2009, 07:23 PM

If you look back at all of my posts in the past about Dan Burisch, before this thread, I was supportive of the stories he told. I was even still supportive of the stories he told and the line he was taking on Vaccines even after listening to the audio of the Amsterdam Conference where he voiced his opinion. At that point I had never made any attempt to research the dangers of Vaccines on my own. I had no frame or reference to weather he was right or if the audience was right.

Then I happened across the first set of videos that I posted in this thread. I began to realize that there was not really any valid opinion in favor of PTB sponsored vaccines. Seeing as how easily I came across that information and that it only took me about 5-10 min. of searching on Youtube to find it, I began to wonder how such a well versed scientist in the field of microbiology could not be aware that injecting people with toxic levels of Mercury would be harmful. Then after about another 5-10 min of using the You Tube search engine I found the other videos that I have posted in this thread.

Still at this point I had not formed any definate conclusions in my mind about Burisch because he had yet to come back to us with his conclusions about the dangers of vaccines. I thought that for sure after it had only taken me a grand total of about 25 min. to find all the documented data that one needs to know to determine if vaccines have dangerous compounds or not, that surely an intelligent "scientist" like Burisch would easily come to the same conclusions.

Burisch had said when he left the conference that he was going to do research to find out once and for all if the concerns of the masses where justified scientifically or not. He supposedly went and did extensive research and came back with the conclusion that vaccines had never been used to harm the recipients of them and that if Project Camelot would continue to insist that they were dangerous that he could no longer be involved with PC. He did research on a level far more extensive than the lengths I went to in order to discover the truth and his conclusion is that injecting your blood stream with among other things Mercury has never been proven to have any harmful effects?

At this point after I read his conclusions I knew I had been had, and that the only way he could be saying this is if he was being instructed to. I even stated earlier in this thread that

Post #4 by Tone3jaguar
Who knows, just like any good and highly trained disinformation agent he has mixed the truth in with the lies. We will never know which was which. They do this to trick the individuals watching who have clear intuitive discernment. The truth parts turn up the antenna of the viewer, then the disinfo parts get integrated into that vibe. Not very complicated. I actually think that the stuff he said about the grays and the looking glass may have been true. However, that information had absolutely no logistical value to any of us.

This thread is not about everything that Dan Burisch has ever said being true or not. It is about the in your face deception that he attempted to shove down my throat and all of yours believing that it would work because people had decided to start trusting him. It is not a matter of opinion as to weather the ingredient load in the vaccines is dangerous or not. It is scientifically proven to be dangerous and has been for a long time. Even the dumbest of scientists on their worst day could easily see this by reviewing the video and also written evidence in the numerous thesis style books that have been written on it.

Thank god my sister and brother in law already knew about the Mercury in the vaccines 3 years ago before my niece was born or else she might be mentally disabled instead of bright and intelligent. The only reason they knew when I was oblivious to it was because he ran a Chelation Therapy Clinic and had been well versed in all the possible sources of heavy metals for quite some time.

This thread was not an attack on anyone. It was retaliation for the war that the PTB started long ago when they began maming women and children for the sake of control and status. If Dan Burisch did not want to get caught up in the line of fire then he should have conducted himself in a more ethical manner. Tough s--t for Dan Burisch and anyone else that tries to feed me information that is designed to endanger my health. If he can't take the heat then he should get out of the fire, oh wait he already did. Boo, Hoo, Hoo:(

14 Chakras

08-05-2009, 07:31 PM

P.S. As a quick follow up, whether or not we believe anything DB has said is far less important than the way we choose to interact with each other and deal with truth in general. It's not about 'us vs. them' and deciding who and what is good and bad. It's about working on ourselves and using every opportunity, including our interactions with each other, to come from a more loving place rather than a dualistic one... it's about taking the middle road rather than getting into dualistic arguments, things are not black and white. Unconditional love is what will save the earth, being right or wrong in arguments won't get us very far..

Unconditional love to all of you, and DB.

tone3jaguar

08-05-2009, 07:38 PM

Deciding who and what is good and bad is what the truth movement is all about. Camelot is at the forefront of the truth movement and this is the Camelot General Discussion. Therefore, I am going to respectfully agree to disagree with you on that one:)

14 Chakras

08-05-2009, 07:42 PM

tone3jaguar

08-05-2009, 07:54 PM

The doctors have tunnel vision and do not have the advantage of ever having been shown a paradigm outside of the main stream. The fact is that before vaccines ever started back in the early 1900's no one had ever heard of autism because no one had it. Then in the early 80's they where giving babies 12 shots loaded with Mercury which resulted in 1 in every 2500 children having autism. Now they give babies 24 shots with mercury in them that amounts to 400x the safe level of mercury as mandated by the FDA. This I discovered after doing 25 min total of video research. There is not debate, it is black and white. If Dr. Burisch really is a scientist, you could say that he is so far out side of the box that the tunnel vision of main stream medicine would not even be something he is aware of which would make him uncovering the truth even easier than it would be for a main stream doctor.

He claims he worked for Majestic, where is the proof? They listed him as a prison guard and security guard at a casino as a cover? He declared bankruptcy because he could not pay back the student loans after his way through school was paid for by his keepers?

His daughter was secretly made part of a treaty deal with future mutant humans and he had to give up custody of her so that they would not be allowed to take her back to the future and use her as a genetic blueprint? I seem to remember that story from somewhere else. Oh thats right, Fox Maulders Black Ops dad was responsible for the disappearance of Foxes sister because of some sort of deal that he struck.

franciejones

08-05-2009, 08:33 PM

Not worth it...too much big brother and sleeping going on here

franciejones

08-05-2009, 08:36 PM

Not worth it

14 Chakras

08-05-2009, 11:35 PM

Deciding who is 'good' and who is 'bad' is something I don't agree is the path to enlightenment.

We see through a glass darkly here. There is truth found everywhere, but illusions also found everywhere. The path is one of mastering our discernment, we are working towards Christ discernment which is where we can see and hear what is real and what is unreal.

When we expect a person either has only truth or only lies, then we are assuming things are very black and white, and that's not reality.

I'm certainly not here saying everything DB says is true, and it's not even so much about DB, but it is about whether or not it's a good approach to judge people and their work and put them in categories of good or bad. I don't agree with this. Personally, my discernment has led me to continue to believe that some of the info that DB revealed is ground breaking and very interesting.

In fairness, there are disinfo agents, and there are mind controlled disinfo agents, I believe that is true. It is also a good idea to share our discernment on individuals. I'm sharing my discernment in this case. It obviously differs from some others, and that's a good thing, because if you only get one viewpoint, then you're missing a big part of the spectrum of possibilities.

I don't think vaccines are a good thing. I also don't think because someone is a microbiologist they can go back to some lab and prove that they are harmful. Vaccines are so effective for the PTB because it is thus far almost impossible to conclusively prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are harmful. Feel free to take whatever study you can find to your local doctor or microbiologist or scientist and I'm guessing, if they bother to investigate, you will be presented with 5 studies for everyone that you show them that show that vaccines are safe.

I'm not saying those studies aren't skewed, but I am saying it's very difficult and possibly impossible to conclusively prove, at this point, that vaccines are harmful beyond any shadow of a doubt, even for a microbiologist.

At some stages on the search we may need to be very black and white about things, but I believe we must keep climbing from there where we can hear truth even when it comes from very unexpected sources. If the messenger is an ant, heed him.

Peace!

Unified Serenity

08-06-2009, 12:37 AM

Well, the fact is that many many many respected scientist, in fact the VAST majority of the medical community and respected medical professionals in our world, believe vaccines are helpful and not harmful. Every single child that is born in North America is vaccinated soon after they are born.

Fact, you can avoid getting vaccinated or having your children vaccinated in all 50 states by declaring a religious objection to doing so. I did this at the health department for my children and received a nice blue form that I turned into any day cares and public schools. I never had a problem doing so. They lie to people by saying that you can't send your children to day cares or public schools if they are not vaccinated. SO, every child IS NOT vaccinated in North America.

Do you really think that doctors would go along with this if they believed vaccines are dangerous?

Yes I do as it was just proven that doctors get paid bonuses in the UK if they get 75% of children vaccinated and a bigger bonus if it is above 90%. Guess what? They have upped the vaccination rate! So, yes they will work harder to get the lil tykes vaccinated for money.

Another fact is that nurses and doctors get about 30 minutes to an hours instruction on the validity of vaccinations. That's their research time in medical school. Guess who gives the class? Usually a "scientist" from the pharm company. So, guess now if they are given an unbiased factual based lecture. Here is another bit of facts for you. Any research doctor who dares to do a double blind study or study of any kind into the dangers of vaccines loses their funding. Guess how many double blind studies have been done by American scientists here in America as to the danger of vaccines. As of my last count, none! Italy has actual medical scientists who have done the studies and have proven the dangers of the MMR, Rubella vaccines and their direct tie to Autism and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. The UK even quit vaccinated children under 2 yrs at one point based on the SIDS research, and their SIDS rate dropped dramatically. Vaccines in babies can cause encephalitis (swelling of the brain) and thereby kill the child.

I have studied the issue of vaccines in depth since 1991 and have more factual study time than the average doctor or nurse by hundreds of hours. Yet, because I am not a doctor or nurse they take a knee jerk reaction that I am a kook and don't know a thing. I have even lost doctors for my children due to refusing to let them brow beat me into vaccinating them. They love to treat you like you are an idiot and endangering your child for such decisions, but I have not backed down. Sadly, my ex got them vaccinated a couple of years ago, and now I have to take measures to get the poisons out of their systems, but I got them all over the age of 8 before this happened, and for that I think I avoided much brain damage.

Yes, many are damaged and killed by vaccines. The diseases that are targeted by vaccines were already on the decline in N. America before the vaccines were made. They still vaccinate for Polio despite Salk requesting the vaccine be discontinued in N. America as every case here was directly linked to the vaccine after the 1980's. The rise in autism, ADHD, mental slowness has increased dramatically from 40 years ago. Many parents know something happened to their child, but can't figure out what happened. Many need to mourn the loss of the child that would have been, and move on with the child they have. I do believe if we get these poisons out of our children we an greatly improve their mental acuity.

So DB shares the opinion of the VAST majority of respected medical professionals and scientist on the planet.

Yes, that is true, but they also once believed leeching was the cure for everything and that there was no such thing as microbes. Once the truth was discovered they grew and took precautions when treating patients. The truth is out there about what's in vaccines and the outcome on immune systems and intelligence of those receiving vaccines, so why do they keep it up? Maybe because there is a reason to dumb down our kids, turn them into order obeying, non-thinking slaves.

Again though, vaccines are part of a much larger picture, everyone already gets vaccinated period. Yet we're still here having this chat, so they're not exactly pure death. Certainly it's possible that H1N1 vaccines could be more harmful than usual, but there is so much awareness around this that I very much doubt that they could sneak too much negative stuff in there without people testing it and finding out exactly what's in there.. so I personally don't think, at this point that the H1N1 vaccine, will necessarilly be so much more harmful than the other many many vaccines that are already out there and being given to billions of people.

You are assuming anyone in America does test those vaccines. Again, you can get out of being vaccinated if you take the right steps. Going from a strong healthy person to someone who is bedridden, mentally disabled, crippled is very devastating and for many of those people they wish they had just died. Just ask those in the military who are guinea pigs and end up a shell of who they once were. I don't think the H1N1 vaccine will cause a mass die off. I think it will make those with the genetic marker to the H1N1 ready to be infected when it is unleashed on the population. It's there to give them one flag to activate the full swine flu once they encounter it. I do think there is a definite agenda to kill off blacks and Hispanics. The American population could be targeted due to the whole independence viewpoint and why bother fighting us in the streets if they can just make us sick and die from a flu that they can say, "We warned you, but you didn't listen and didn't take the vaccine".

All in all, this is planned, and they see the whole chess board while we get to see see pieces and areas, but not the whole layout. No need to fear, but knowledge allows me to feel peace, and know more to make choices and respond to situations and not simply react like a sheep about to be slaughtered (easy to herd and kill).

14 Chakras

08-06-2009, 01:20 AM

Unified Serenity, thanks for some of the info there, I'm not totally on the up and up about the laws around vaccines and such..

My personal feeling about the DB thing is that he is not part of this forum or community, vaccines has never been an issue for him, as Tone says, before Tone bothered to research them recently he thought they were fine.

I think DB was in the category of those who thought they were fine. He was blindsided by this question about vaccines at the conference, had really no ideas of the negative effects, and basically said he thought they were fine. Then he said he would do some research to confirm.

Now the fact is DB has an ego thing going on. He publicly states they are fine. So when he goes and does research, do you think he is going to seek out information that validates or dis-validates his public statement? It's exactly the same as when you take this info to a scientist or a doctor, they are going to look for info that makes vaccines appear safe to validate their own ego and opinion. It's EASY to find stuff that does validate vaccines and that's what DB finds and states.

Now in large part because he did that, everything he's said is getting written off, even though none of his work had anything to do with vaccines and he probably shouldn't have even been asked about them because he is not some kind of guru who knows stuff out of his line of experience. He doesn't.

I don't have answers for the student loan stuff but 15K loan for a PHD is like one or two semesters, not a whole education. Obviously he wasn't full time with Magi and if he says he was full time, that's a hole in his story that he'll need to explain.

Personally, I think DB probably spruced up his resume even to himself to appear better to himself and others. It doesn't mean Maji stuff never occured. That's my opinion.

One last thing about vaccines. Polio used to be a big problem before polio vaccines and there are other types of diseases from what I understand that have been stopped in their tracks from vaccines. I don't think vaccines are necessary or safe in our world, however, I do think they have served a legitimate purpose at times historically speaking.

The way it works however, is that diseases exist in the first place due to karmic misuse of energy by the people. They are wake up calls for people to change their way of being. When you fix things from a material perspective, the karma that created the disease, now needs to express itself in another way. That's the door the PTB have to put some mercury into these things and whatever else to get people with the backdoor. Whenever you solve something with a strictly material solution rather than solving the consciousness problem that is creating the karma that expresses itself as the problem in the first place, then you are always going to have a backside to the solution that is going to cause another problem in another way. That's cosmic law.

Basically, you can't solve a problem from the same level of consciousness that created the problem in the first place.

Anchor

08-06-2009, 01:25 AM

And furthermore...have any of you noticed HOW MANY of the original moderators are gone? Have you asked yourselves why at any point? I hope atleast one person here understands what it is I am saying. There are many more sites available to hear whistleblowers and researchers. This one has gotten very strange to say the least.

Such is the nature of change.

Each step, one in front of the other, sees us arive in a new world. It is a journey that can only happen in one direction.

In my opinion it is entirely wrong to even try to hold on to the things of the past.

Myself I stopped moderating a while back, it can be immensely taxing. I was going through some personal changes at the time and the forum was increasingly hard to moderate - (this was before the subscription started).

I came back when I was asked to help out with moderating in the AUS timezone and also to provide admin services. I got more than I bargained for, since we started getting all the database problems, and shortly after that the host decided to shut us down without notice!

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

A..

Unified Serenity

08-06-2009, 01:38 AM

14 Chakra, I respect what you have said, and yes it is true that it takes great objectivity to research areas that are not in agreement with one's given understanding, but when someone says they are going to do just that and comes back in this issue of vaccines as ok, then they are very much one to be careful of trusting.

I see this current H1N1 vaccine as very dangerous. If DB is a tool of tptb, then it makes sense for him to continue this charade of trust me. Then again, if we do not comply and tptb turn it into a violent situation to not take the vaccines that also plays into their hand. This really is a bad situation, and they have played a wonderful chess game and are boxing the people into a corner which is often the best move for check mate.

All in all, I am where I am supposed to be at this moment. My future decisions will come from a place of peace, and I will NOT take the vaccine or allow my children to be vaccinated. Should they or I be forced to, I will have counter measures ready to get them out of my system. And energetically speaking, all can be negated with the right frequency.

blessed be,

Unified Serenity

14 Chakras

08-06-2009, 01:46 AM

Yes well this whole DB saying "Trust me" is the problem.

DB has an ego, it's his ego that thinks you should follow him. DB has some interesting whistleblower experiences. He's not a guru. Those who chose to follow him do so to their own peril. My discernment tells me he's not a disinfo agent, he's not trying to harm anyone, he's just not working enough on overcoming his ego illusions. The universe will reflect back to him the consequences of this, which we can see here in this thread, and eventually he will see through his own stuff.

DB has a lot of work to do on himself as do all of us here. The key is not to expect someone outside of us to have the answers for life. If we do start to follow someone that is telling us the answers, one day we will see that they are a fragile human being with an ego like the rest of us, and at that point we can either take responsibility for our own mistake of choosing to put people on pedastles and follow them blindly, or we can mistakenly attack them and believe it's all 'their' fault and play the victim.

Any true teacher will force you to connect to the answers from within rather than getting you to follow them blindly. DB is not a true teacher, but he's not some kind of evil deceiver either. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater means, when we realize someone doesn't have all the answers they claim, it doesn't mean that they have no value. Keep what rings true, discard the rest, and keep up the good search.

DB is a lesson for everyone on more than one level.

Unified Serenity

08-06-2009, 02:08 AM

For the most part, I agree with you 14 Chakras.

Thanks for a decent discussion.

14 Chakras

08-06-2009, 02:24 AM

I personally learn a lot from these discussions. I think this community is full of learning experiences for us all. Time well spent, even when the going gets rough, sometimes that provides the best opportunities for growth.

tone3jaguar

08-07-2009, 01:12 AM

This stuff about ignoring who is good and bad being a path to salvation is made up bull s--t.

Karen

08-08-2009, 12:35 AM

One last thing about vaccines. Polio used to be a big problem before polio vaccines and there are other types of diseases from what I understand that have been stopped in their tracks from vaccines. I don't think vaccines are necessary or safe in our world, however, I do think they have served a legitimate purpose at times historically speaking.

This is a big lie we have been force fed.
Virus pandemics self limit and then extinguish.
Polio was in a huge decline before the vaccine.
And there's a lot more to that story ...

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/polio_chart.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34353898@N07/3799749112/

Karen

08-08-2009, 12:39 AM

We have been lied to about the savior effect of vaccines.

Pertussus (whooping cough)
http://www.vaccinetruth.org/pertussis.htm
Again notice the decline of 80% before the vaccine was introduced.

Measles
http://www.vaccinetruth.org/measles_chart.htm

Unified Serenity

08-08-2009, 12:48 AM

Karen, this is exactly why I have zero trust in the AMA and Pharm companies. Vaccines do not save us, but they do compromise our immune systems and nervous systems. Look at the skyrocketing diseases that have appeared in the past 45 years.

Look at the cost in lost human potential and the ability to think for ourselves. It's all about money and power, and anyone who plays along with them is carrying a heavy load for what they have done. Is DB evil? I don't think so, but I do think he is wrong on vaccines.

Tango

08-08-2009, 06:24 AM

I've got to start out by saying " I'm not posting to Judge "
But, something isn't right..........!!! I've sent DB's video's
to some other retired mil. officers in Tucson, AZ.
[tower operators, ATC, logistics] he doesn't use mil. jargon.

You tell me... Watch the movie " Annapolis." Try to
picture DB in the place of a character... As a Midshipman.
I've heard, he was a U.S. Navy Captain, Daniel Crane, he
would have had to attend Annapolis; for officers training.
We all do. He doesn't speak the way officers talk.

If you've ever heard Wendell Stevens, from Tucson, AZ
is a retired officer. I spoke with Bob Dean, in his home
way back when he had the Stargate website... He was
an enlistedmen, CSgt.M, Army (ret.), both of these men
delivery is the same. Clear; consistent as most used to
giving reports. I don't hear that kind of delivery from DB.
DB also doesn't use mil. jargon [lingo]... Strange Huh...

I remember something abt a "BJ Wolf" out of Vegas. But, it
sounded like B.S. to me...

We, were up thru Vegas twice a month at least until 02,
there was a deal with the LUXOR; $ 14.00 per nite, if we
showed our ID's and stayed armed while in the hotel. We
did Nellis and the ranch... So, we were stuck in Vegas area
for two nites and I wasn't stay'n at the B.O.Q. on Nellis.
I've always hated Vegas.

Understand this... mil. officers retirement is abt $ 1875.00 a
month Before the last COLA, and DB has security. Bullsfit !
And, why would he live in Vegas ? Why, wouldn't he move
over W. of the MTN. [where Art Bell lived...] or down
by the Hoover damn, I know several officers that live down
there...? Why Vegas ? Why an apartment...? Something
doesn't add up here... I've been in the game too long to
miss anything.

Now, he is going to a pharmaceutical manufacturer... Sorry,
everything is shipped into Vegas. No manufacturers there...
I would know... Most everything in Vegas comes from
Phoenix, AZ...

He doesn't talk military....... I've listened... Go back and
listen to Bob Dean... That's the way most officers deliver.
That's the way, I deliver a report... Just the facts, NO
DRAMA... DB, always uses some kind of drama. Not becoming;
a Naval Officer...

I do remember someone showing me a video of DB as
a TV " science guy." Way back... I don't remember who
showed me... Out of NY, I think...

Now, remember as I said, " I'm NOT judging here with this
post..." But, it is against the LAW to impersonate a mil.
officer. They are making arrests for such offenses; crimes.
Has anyone seen his mil. ID. Does he have a Brown passport
like we have...?

Someone, needs to ask Bob Dean what he thinks... When I
talked to Bob Dean in his home, that's the first thing I did
was showed him My mil. ID. Hopefully, he doesn't remember
me by my handle... But, he Would recon me if he saw me,
right off. Oh, and, I completely trust Robert Dean...

Trooly,

Tango

Do you think the looking glass saw this post coming? :original:

Hiram

08-08-2009, 05:35 PM

Christo888

08-08-2009, 07:29 PM

This stuff about ignoring who is good and bad being a path to salvation is made up bull s--t.

What exactly are you talking about?

Please explain your hit and run!

tone3jaguar

08-08-2009, 07:34 PM

What exactly are you talking about?

Please explain your hit and run!

See my New Age Disinformation thread
(http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15886//)

Christo888

08-08-2009, 08:01 PM

See my New Age Disinformation thread
(http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15886//)

Well hey that is a pretty good thread T3J!

I am a fragment of the Whole and my fragment contains all the properties of the Whole; both current and infinite potential in any path that could unfold based on my individual expression of all inclusive Divine Intelligence.

I do not follow anyone or anything... I create my own path and leave a trail behind!:thumb_yello:

Adventure-Curiosity-Observation-Exploration-Discovery.

A CO-ED. :roll1::mfr_lol:

THE eXchanger

08-09-2009, 12:57 AM

i think, the reason bill & kerrie,
don't reveal anything on DB aka DC

is because, in order to interview him,
that had to sign agreements
WHICH PREVENT them,
from "full" disclosure !!!

i think, he's likely a good researcher,
but, i definitely do NOT believe,
he was ever a part of MJ12,
personally, i predict, he's going to get arrested/and, charged
for impersonating, a member of the usa miltary,
that's what i think

Avid

08-09-2009, 12:23 PM

What a fiasco - all hell has broken out at Dans website http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/ and it's associated golden thread. Dissing BR and KC - getting far too personal, and also lashing out at other whistleblowers.
How unprofessional :thumbdown:

burgundia

08-09-2009, 12:53 PM

I guess some people are losing it.....

tone3jaguar

08-09-2009, 01:31 PM

I guess some people are losing it.....

Either that or someone over his head decided on a strategic change.

THE eXchanger

08-09-2009, 02:08 PM

Either that or someone over his head decided on a strategic change.

the "truth" is "out there"

trouble is: DB/DC - likely had people sign paperwork
prior to him granting interviews

allows him to talk and talk and, talk

and, them, NOT say a word

(there is a way to silence people) :lmao:

perhaps that is why KC/AND BR are quiet/or silent about things ?

if DB/DC lived in a world,
and/part of the world, where he couldn't go bankrupt,
they take that amount of money out of your hide,
one way/or other

i belive DB/DC is going to end up behind some bars
for impersonating miltary personnel.

Connecting with Sauce

08-09-2009, 02:25 PM

Yes I do as it was just proven that doctors get paid bonuses in the UK if they get 75% of children vaccinated and a bigger bonus if it is above 90%. Guess what? They have upped the vaccination rate! So, yes they will work harder to get the lil tykes vaccinated for money.

Yes it was my post here...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15690

I was a Zurich and my intuition was flashing in my head "BS" throughout the whole 2 hour DB discussion on Friday especially when she started talking about CO2 and global warming. And then to steer the whole discussion in the group talk about vacines I feel I wasted ~4 hours of my life. I cost me considerable time and money to get t Zurich from the UK and that part was a complete waste of my time.

I did however meet some wonderful people when I was there and recently at the Amsterdam 1 day conference but other than the meeting and discussing these things with like minds I didn't get a whole lot from the conference. The David Willcox lecture was great but even his comments about weather control and chemtrails didn't ring true either (for me)... SO I suppose with all of this you need to make sure your own truth meter is working...

Hiram

08-09-2009, 04:21 PM

DB insistence on control of information is unsettling. When teamed up together DB and MB behave in a strange way, so it does not surprise me that people BullS*#t detectors were going off.

My opinion is that he has had some genuine experience, but that fascinatingly enough, he and MB continue to manufacture their new interactions for notoriety.

I know this is a bold claim, and I used to really entertain all that he said. I just find it so unlikely that this person seems to be personally involved in almost any UFO related topic you can bring up...and all the Gordon Novel stuff....what is the point of that? What are you trying to prove?

It takes a lot for me to say things like this because I strongly believe in giving everyone a fair chance to tell their story.

I encourage everyone here to use their best discernment when listening to these witnesses.

Perhaps I am feeling him out incorrectly?

Unified Serenity

08-09-2009, 04:48 PM

Yes it was my post here...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15690

I cost me considerable time and money to get t Zurich from the UK and that part was a complete waste of my time.

I did however meet some wonderful people when I was there and recently at the Amsterdam 1 day conference but other than the meeting and discussing these things with like minds I didn't get a whole lot from the conference. The David Willcox lecture was great but even his comments about weather control and chemtrails didn't ring true either (for me)... SO I suppose with all of this you need to make sure your own truth meter is working...

I guess I am kind of glad I don't have the money to waste on a trip like that. I would love to go to LA to one of Kerry's events, but then again it costs some to travel from FL to LA. I would value the opportunity to meet others face to face and share information as I do believe that some people will share more that way than online where there is a permanent record so to speak. Yes, I agree in hearing people out, but keep one's radar operating at top speed as there are quite a few who like to dress things up beyond their real experiences.

I'd love to have a conference in the South East US for those of us willing to attend and give of our time, but not wishing to spend thousands to do so. Then again, that's sort of what ground crews are for, and it would be great to have one near me. So far not much luck on the requests I have made for local or regional contacts. Hmmm, maybe it's me, lol. C'est la vie!

tone3jaguar

08-27-2009, 02:53 PM

I could not resist, I know this is beating the dead horse with a slege hammer. I just visited the Eagles Disobey wanna-be web site and found that Dan Burish is backing up his rediculousness with a topping of ludicrous.

There is so much B.S. up there on his web site that I do not even know where to start. Oh I know I will start with how he has decided to bash his “friend” David Wilcock. I made the call back when Burisch came out with his researched conclusions that injecting Merucury, Ether, Aluminum and what ever else is in a vaccination that his trip to never never land was going to come back to haunt David Wilcock. To be clear I like David, and that is why this is so ludicrous. I think Dan is off of his meds.

From the Eagles Disobey Web Page

DW has an interesting way to view it......most people observed Dan diffuse the problem in Zurich hat had been set up as a staged event*- a problem primed and ready to go the moment that the vaccine question was brought up.* This is the same guy that tells people how to achieve ascention, and ladles out the pablum on stage, while privately calling women "ho's with crack babies.... (his quote from email "we still need to settle our account for the conference fee as well, and I really don’t want to send bank account info by electronic means other than a fax machine, as I wrote Rxxx... so let’s expedite that process as I’ve got to feed my eight crack babies from these eight different ho’s........."**
*This was right on the heels of the Barcelona conference ending and certainly sounds like he's been waiting a while waiting for pay. The Barcelona conference was NOT a Proj. "C" conference, but the Zurich conferencewas, and that has been established in their own advertisements, prior to an apparent attempt by them to 'cover up' such a relationship.*
He was paid, but not the Eagles. Oh, yea..... that's right, the Eagles feed the homeless. That took care of that.*
........ and then defines himself as a "chicken****".

Then there are the delusions about Bill Ryan

* But what really happened in Zurich?**
And what happened after the incident?

What prompted the conference organizer to later write Dan*saying: "If you do not trust me for any reason, then all is lost."*
What is lost? Their sacrificial lamb?** Well, we've got news for them, the Eagles are not going to be served up on the 'half-shell' for them, or for anybody else.*

Imagine (given the clever maneuvering of the vaccine question into the panel discussion, and the publicity generating firestorm it created) ....* imagine what the Eagles would have been walking into if they were*still*willing to go to the L.A. conference?**

No....*The answer is*Absolutely No.**What do they think - that*the Eagles went through all those*years of education and managed to survive the hard crucible of experience with*Majestic, without being able to recognize a*bungled*attempt to manipulate public opinion*at their expense?* Publicity at any price,*is that it?* The Eagles have sharp eyes - they get it - theconference organizers*don't care if they endanger their guest-speakers, as long as they get a few more dollars at the gate?**Right?

No, Wrong.***

Then there is the conspiracy he has invented about where Camelot gets its funding

WHO'S YOUR DADDY?* Everybody is asking the question:* Where does* Proj "C" get the money to jet all over the world.*Donations? (sure...... or is it something else?) To read the expose,

Then you click on the link and you get this

Exposee on Zurich Part 2

Who's Your Daddy????*

WE KNOW.*
http://www.projectcamelot.org/*
"9 August 2009 •**

"*"COINTELPRO"*is the FBI acronym for a series of covert action programs directed against domestic groups. In these programs, the Bureau went beyond the collection of intelligence to secret action defined to "disrupt" and "neutralize" target groups and individuals. The techniques were adopted wholesale from wartime counterintelligence." -- the 1975 Church Committee
*Stan:** We are as you are more than likely well aware now in the throes of quasi covert U.S. Government funding of our gravity/TIME Control program and with the lead of some ten experimental power/propulsion design concepts being developed concurrently around our patent pending circular universal ARV plan form also being used IMHO to propel Majic's black reputed "Solar Warden" deep space triangles. We are also now into a preliminary cut and bend on this consortium developed program based on reverse engineering of the ARV plan form. We strictly do not intimidate as you are already well aware.*

We could have long ago taken an offensive posture against identified but innocent MJ targets of opportunity but that would have made a future diplomatic rapprochement with Majic impossible once the serious and dangerous to all tit for tat back and forth commenced.*

Grin and bear it was the decided policy which RP will tell you was my personal policy decision as I was obviously the primary target of Majic's disruptive*COINTELPRO*and PsyOps focused activities.*

Much of my intercepted aggressive vocal and e-mail posturing was only intended to deter such unnecessary dumb aggressions...*
Gordon Nxxxxxxxxx"

UNSTABLE OR HIDING SOMETHING?*

IS IT MORE LIKELY SOME DEEP DARK COINTELPRO*ON OUR SIDE, OR THAT SOMEONE'S FINGERS HAVE BEEN CAUGHT IN THE COOKIE JAR?????????*

HERE IS WHAT WAS SENT TO EAGLES DISOBEY AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE:

He also now has a page where he “exposes” what really happened at Baxter Parmeceuticals where he justifies the avian flu contamination as human error.

"Okay...there has been some speculation about Baxter, and much of the truth about the real connection with Zurich is now posted in the Hideaway, by Stan. The great Zurich uprising about Baxter is nonexistent. It is true they made some errors, errors which I deplore, and the truth is...

Most of the truth of the matter can be found in WIKIPEDIA!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baxter_International
http://www.answers.com/topic/baxter-international-inc

First of all, I am neither an apologist for Baxter, nor do I condone all their actions. I never said I did, but a few were busy being loud. Baxter is a greedy company with a serious record of quality control problems, and some poor management decisions. Those issues of greed are not something with which I am willing to really deal, as in parsing money deals for the public, save that no decision should compromise the public's health. When I say the public's health, I wonder if people know what I mean? I mean, where ever possible individually, but certainly never over the population. With all products, some adverse reactions occur, but the medical science we now have is the best we have! They, and even we, are trying to make it better.

Tango

08-29-2009, 07:34 AM

This is for all of 'us' on the thread... we, could all say these words to DC...

L00KS like its goin into in this thread... So, I think its a fitting...

YouTube - Kenny Loggins "This Is It"

Just, imagine 'You' saying these words with ME standing right there next to you.

Trooly,

Tango

TRANCOSO

08-29-2009, 08:30 AM

You know what? Somebody (could be anybody) was so fed up with Dan Burisch's whistleblowing, that he (they?) dropped a whole lot of acid in Dan B.'s drink & ever since (Uncle) Dan, as we knew him, became a different Dan. A NOT Dan, so to speak.
Let us all pray
that one day
Dan becomes Dan
again.
And if not, God doesn't exist.
Deal?

Karen

08-29-2009, 11:06 AM

Let's sing it one more time - with a little harmonica at the end.

YouTube - Kenny Loggins This Is It Live 1993

tone3jaguar

08-29-2009, 01:00 PM

Tango

08-29-2009, 03:47 PM

Thanks, Karen... That was C00L....

Welll Now.... Let's put a little Stink on it...[this is for viewers on the Thread]

" She came from somewhere, back, long Ago "

" what he felt had to be created, He never 'made Up' things Right, What a F00L Believes"

" can You see, The WISE man has a Problem; Un reasonably; What seems-- to be "

" He's always scared of noth'n; noth'n at alll, He keeps tell'n it-- Somewhere back N' his Long Ago "

N' everyone needs a little dirty SAX at the end....

YouTube - Kenny Loggins What A Fool Believes Live 1992

Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald describe the friendship between KC & DC.

Just listen to the Words, then it becomes very clear... 'From the Redwoods.'

Sometimes, things just fit together, Just Right. Look @the words abv as it plays...

Verry trooly,

Tango

" Dancing in the Redwoods "

KathyT

08-30-2009, 12:02 AM

I have spent many years watching Dan Burisch, long before PC came to be. I take his info like a salad bar....take what I want and leave the rest.

What is undeniable about him and his site after all these years, is his curious.......NO DOWNRIGHT STRANGE....preoccupation with setting up controls about who gets to hear what...and repeatedly calling out the public on his forum to let them know that certain people will get to see certain information and to "ALL OTHERS...the information is ACCESS DENIED!"

I'm sorry, but this reeks of some very serious control issues. Its also...and this is just a fact...very self-righteous.

Why would an individual continually have to "DENY" people access? It is very strange. The word is all over his golden thread. I just think its somewhat strange and I would like to hear an accounting of this by DB and MB.

I think these are fair and reasonable concerns.

I suggest everyone do their research about Dan Burisch also known as Dr.Crain.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4190378

"His name today is Dan Burisch. Before that it was Dan Catselas, and when Eyewitness News first ran into him, it was Dan Crain. "Doctor" Dan Crain, he says. But is he a doctor, and has he really been face to face with an alien in an underground lab?"

A TV Producer's story:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message440667/pg1

From UFO WatchDog, 2004, long before Bill & Kerry met him. This one is a must read! The bankruptcy filing is interesting.
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/burischdirtbag.html