14 Chakras
07-30-2009, 06:47 AM
I personally have not been following what's going on with Dan Burisch at all after the interview piece, however, I do understand he came out with some of the following, what I consider to be super interesting, super valid, and super important info.
Please note, I'm not knocking the thread calling out Dan Burisch, I'm just taking this opportunity to share what I've learned thanks in part to the info that he's brought forth. So this thread is most definitely not about Dan Burisch, it's about the story of the Greys as I've come to understand it at this point based on a variety of sources including Burisch.
Now you may disagree with some or all of this, personally, my intuition leads me to believe it is quite accurate. In any case, it is very interesting.
I'll map out the story of the Greys as I see it based mainly on his testimony, as well as some of my own intuitive understandings and info from other sources I deem valid to spice it up.
If you have anything to add or comment about the Greys evolutions, or the story as laid out below PLEASE DO :) :thumb_yello:!
1) Some of the Greys are from the future, one of the crashes at Roswell was Greys from the future. The "P47s" is the nickname of those from the future that crashed at Roswell. 47 stands for 47000 years because these Greys are from 47000 years or so in the future or so from what I understand.
2) The P47s are negative Greys who are working to keep humanity on a negative timeline where things get really out of hand. They are doing this for a variety of reasons, but the most interesting one is the following:
3) The Greys from the future are actually people from today, who go into the DUMB's (Deep Underground Military Base's)! That means, some people living today, many of them being the elite types and their children, who have their spots booked in underground bunkers somewhere, are still alive 47000 years from now and they are now the Alien Greys.
4) The way the DUMB dwellers accomplish this is not totally understood, but basically they invent, or are given, some kind of technology that enables them to store their consciousness and move it into new bodies without undergoing death with the body.
5) So the P47s are in part back here now to make sure that the timeline continues as planned, (which is VERY crappy for the surface dwellers who don't make the consciousness shift and in the last timeline, it sounds like the majority didn't make it), to justify their own creation and beginnings.
6) Eventually, the DUMB dwellers, who may or may not be in Grey bodies at this point, get off planet, probably via stargate or something, and they end up in Zeta Riticula system.
7) Somewhere along the way, they bump into some cloning factory that makes these Grey style bodies and they're able to get their consciousness into them.
8) However, as part of this new body they adopt, they come to believe the cause of all problems is emotion, so they literally work their own chakras and soul matrix out of these new bodies that they jump into.
9) The greys become one of the most technologically advanced group of aliens in the third dimension, (Side note, not to mention there are very likely Greys in the 4th and 5th dimensions, but Dan Burish never talks about them, so for this post, we won't either). They are pure mental and they've worked out of their evolution their own souls.
10) The greys become totally collective minded, they lose their individuality. Although they used to be people, and maintain a minimum degree of individuality, they very much become a collective. Based on information that other's have brought forth, it definitely sounds like there are nefarious beings who are basically the director for the Greys. So the Greys have their own kind of technological / mental "God's" that basically control the collective it sounds like to me.
11) The P47s are a negative collective that comes back in time to do some work without being seen, but one or more of their ships crash lands at Roswell in the 1940's, likely due to the density and odd atmospheric pressures of planet earth.
12) NOW, this is where it gets trippy. The P47s were human beings in this time. So when they crash land, they are directly influencing their own evolution of themselves.
13) This direct interference creates a WHOLE NEW TIMELINE!!!
14) In the last timeline where the P47s come from, the surface of the earth gets totalled. World wars, natural disasters, diseases, and basically the dark forces wet dream occurs to those who aren't ready to make a jump to the higher consciousness. In the third dimension, only those who go in the DUMBs continue to evolve.
All life on earth in the third is eventually wiped out completely and these scientist and power elite types who go into the DUMBs eventually move to Zeta Riticula and evolve mentally, and devolve spiritually, there. Note however (info from other spiritual sources), a significant percentage, but less than half, of earth's inhabitants successfully made the consciousness jump into the new 5th and did not have to deal with these nasty surface issues... that still leaves over half of humanity that did however, and that's just not a good movie to be a part of!
This is what happened in the last time line.
15) HOWEVER, the P47s crash landing creates the time line we're in Now because they interfere with planet earth after, meaning they interfere with their own evolution after that landing. That means, "they" in the future will have different memories, experiences and potentials than they did in the P47 timeline, that means they literally create a whole new timeline at that point with NO foregone conclusions on how it will turn out.
The P47s start trading technologies with the government in return for the right to be here, abduct cattle and people etc.
And it's all signed into nice official documents that the international courts would recognize as legitimate.
In part, they are working on repairing their DNA, because it's started to fall apart, but only the beginning stages. They're still doing quite well 47000 years from now, and expecting with some human DNA manipulations they can get their bodies right back on track... but they're wrong, as we'll see on number 17 below.
16) Ok, so since the 1940's at least, we're on a whole new timeline than the one where the P47s get created. They still want things to go the way they went: the majority of people on planet earth meet a not so nice end in not so nice kind of way... ouch. HOWEVER, we're NOT on that time line. The game has been reset, and it's 'anybody's' game now.
17) NOW, we get introduced to the P52s.
It turns out that 47000 years from now, the Greys are still doing fairly well out there in Zeta Riticula, living large with no soul matrix and seeking to grow in domination of their part of the galaxy or whatnot. So the really nefarious ones are in charge over there and they send back a team of meanies to make sure they get created and things go 'their way'.
Fast forward 5000 years to 52000 years from now. Things are no longer looking up for the Greys! They are SICK. Very Sick. They are dying out. They have no soul matrix. They're DNA and bodies are literally falling apart. They can't repare them and they're sick.
Now this is a big problem for the Greys. They've literally worked out their own soul matrix from their evolution. That means they are going to die for real, just disapear when their casings completely stop functioning. What to do, what to do?
Why go back in time, to where it all goes down. It all goes down here in the next decade peoples. Of course they also come in advance, probably sometime in the 40s as well. But they have a very different mission than the P47s. They're not here to make sure things go terribly for the surface and they get created. NO, they are here to help people make the conciousness shift they are supposed to make to the new 5th Dimension so that they DON'T GET CREATED. They don't want people to go into the DUMBS. They don't want their human selves from 52000 years before, to go into the DUMBS. Because if they do, then they will likely eventually work their own soul matrix out of their evolution, and then one day... the infinite spiritual being they are meant to be, will simply cease to exist when their bodies break down 52000 years later...
My understanding is, the P52s are a slightly different batch of Greys, meaning they weren't buddy buddy with the P47s 47000 years from now. They are more the decent folk who ended up in the DUMBs and moved out on their own at some point. Once the bodies of all the Greys are seriously falling apart 52000 years from now, they gain more control over the technology and societies and gain access to time travel technology around then and mount this mission.
Make sense? Moving on..
18) Summary: P47s = Negative Greys, who are the negative humans who went into the DUMBs in the last timeline. They're here to try and steer things so the timeline repeats, which is bad for us here, because the surface of the earth gets pretty obliterated in the last timeline and less than 50% of humanity is able to make the jump in consciousness.
P52s = Decent Greys, here to try and help humanity make the shift into the 5th, which is what we need to do now in order to get back on the divine timeline. That way, the P52s keep their souls and keep their evolutions going rather than turning into souless greys who will disapear when their bodies completely breakdown in the near 'future'. Now "Decent" is probably stretching the terminology here. We're still dealing with an alien species that is a collective, does not have emotion or a soul, and probably does not respect humans very much at all... They are not here to harm us, but they may not be very impressed by us either, they are massively technological and so have a built in ego complex essentially. The point is, working with any Greys whatsoever is NOT a good idea for humans.
19) NOW, if we think we can wrap our head around that, there's more to add to the mix. There was MORE than one crash landing at Roswell, and there are indeed other Greys who crashed there that are NOT from the future. (See Matilda O'Donnell's Alien Interview for that story: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11323) Greys are designed by some cloning group or planet somewhere, and they are designing them now as well as in the future. These other Greys were, to my best guess, never from this planet. (Side note: Maybe the dumb scientist are able to reverse engineer some of these modern day grey bodies and that's how they jump into them at some point? Just a thought). I personally have no idea how involved this third (or more) group of Greys is, but personally, I have zero degrees trust for them. There's no question that a very significant percentage of the Greys have no problem abducing people, and doing all sorts of nasty stuff with them.
I will throw in my advice here, that if you EVER encounter a Grey alien, call to Archangel Michael loud and clear, over and over and HE WILL PROTECT YOU. Good advice, take it!
20) Remember, these Greys have technology that is well beyond our understanding. They most definitely can play with time to a certain degree and cause total amnesia for us. So even if you are confident you have never had any dealings with them, if you are an avid reader or researcher in this forum, chances are you could be very wrong. You simply won't remember the vast majority of the time. It can also happen when you're sleeping they can take you in your finer bodies.
Archangel Michael is by far the best protection against these things. If you're Christian and you feel uncomfortable calling to Archangel Michael (even though he's in the Christian Bible), when faced with an abduction or visitation scenario, call to Jesus Christ over and over, he will answer your call and he will protect, but don't be lax about it!
Ok, well, I mixed what I got out of Dan Burish's stuff with some of my own insights around that and that's what's up there in the 20 or so points above. Maybe you will get something out of it too, or already did when going through some of this man's and other materials! :)
P.S. Dan Burish also let us know about cool things like Viewing cubes and looking glasses which are also very very interesting. I believe for the real deal researchers, multiple dimensions becomes the first important thing, multiple timelines and realities the second. It's all interconnected and the control is done through multi dimension, time line and reality manipulation.
P.P.S. Where Dan Burisch has zero expertise is in other types of alien species and some of the other stuff that is going on. The rabbit hole by NO MEANS stops with the Greys. If any of the many other whistleblowers and intutiives about these type of issues are to be taken seriously, they are one species among many here on earth right now, and they aren't even the meanest (although it sounds to me like the P47s are RIGHT UP THERE in terms of meanness, but not necessarilly in terms of power and control).
So personally, I THANK DAN BURISCH for opening my eyes to this stuff, which I personally have found fascinating and an important piece of the puzzle in the search for truth.
All 'whistleblowers' and people sharing sensitive information as they understand it are by no means perfect. They are imperfect people, with human egos that often get out of control, they also face opposition from around them and even within them and things can spiral in the wrong direction for the way they interact with people and some stuff that they say and do. As I said, I personally don't follow Dan Burisch other than the initial interview and I'm not suggesting anyone else does or does not either.
Like someone said in another thread, it's not the outer personality and faux pas of the messenger that is the key, it is the message and the truth will resonate. This information above has most definitely resonated with me :).
Please note, I'm not knocking the thread calling out Dan Burisch, I'm just taking this opportunity to share what I've learned thanks in part to the info that he's brought forth. So this thread is most definitely not about Dan Burisch, it's about the story of the Greys as I've come to understand it at this point based on a variety of sources including Burisch.
Now you may disagree with some or all of this, personally, my intuition leads me to believe it is quite accurate. In any case, it is very interesting.
I'll map out the story of the Greys as I see it based mainly on his testimony, as well as some of my own intuitive understandings and info from other sources I deem valid to spice it up.
If you have anything to add or comment about the Greys evolutions, or the story as laid out below PLEASE DO :) :thumb_yello:!
1) Some of the Greys are from the future, one of the crashes at Roswell was Greys from the future. The "P47s" is the nickname of those from the future that crashed at Roswell. 47 stands for 47000 years because these Greys are from 47000 years or so in the future or so from what I understand.
2) The P47s are negative Greys who are working to keep humanity on a negative timeline where things get really out of hand. They are doing this for a variety of reasons, but the most interesting one is the following:
3) The Greys from the future are actually people from today, who go into the DUMB's (Deep Underground Military Base's)! That means, some people living today, many of them being the elite types and their children, who have their spots booked in underground bunkers somewhere, are still alive 47000 years from now and they are now the Alien Greys.
4) The way the DUMB dwellers accomplish this is not totally understood, but basically they invent, or are given, some kind of technology that enables them to store their consciousness and move it into new bodies without undergoing death with the body.
5) So the P47s are in part back here now to make sure that the timeline continues as planned, (which is VERY crappy for the surface dwellers who don't make the consciousness shift and in the last timeline, it sounds like the majority didn't make it), to justify their own creation and beginnings.
6) Eventually, the DUMB dwellers, who may or may not be in Grey bodies at this point, get off planet, probably via stargate or something, and they end up in Zeta Riticula system.
7) Somewhere along the way, they bump into some cloning factory that makes these Grey style bodies and they're able to get their consciousness into them.
8) However, as part of this new body they adopt, they come to believe the cause of all problems is emotion, so they literally work their own chakras and soul matrix out of these new bodies that they jump into.
9) The greys become one of the most technologically advanced group of aliens in the third dimension, (Side note, not to mention there are very likely Greys in the 4th and 5th dimensions, but Dan Burish never talks about them, so for this post, we won't either). They are pure mental and they've worked out of their evolution their own souls.
10) The greys become totally collective minded, they lose their individuality. Although they used to be people, and maintain a minimum degree of individuality, they very much become a collective. Based on information that other's have brought forth, it definitely sounds like there are nefarious beings who are basically the director for the Greys. So the Greys have their own kind of technological / mental "God's" that basically control the collective it sounds like to me.
11) The P47s are a negative collective that comes back in time to do some work without being seen, but one or more of their ships crash lands at Roswell in the 1940's, likely due to the density and odd atmospheric pressures of planet earth.
12) NOW, this is where it gets trippy. The P47s were human beings in this time. So when they crash land, they are directly influencing their own evolution of themselves.
13) This direct interference creates a WHOLE NEW TIMELINE!!!
14) In the last timeline where the P47s come from, the surface of the earth gets totalled. World wars, natural disasters, diseases, and basically the dark forces wet dream occurs to those who aren't ready to make a jump to the higher consciousness. In the third dimension, only those who go in the DUMBs continue to evolve.
All life on earth in the third is eventually wiped out completely and these scientist and power elite types who go into the DUMBs eventually move to Zeta Riticula and evolve mentally, and devolve spiritually, there. Note however (info from other spiritual sources), a significant percentage, but less than half, of earth's inhabitants successfully made the consciousness jump into the new 5th and did not have to deal with these nasty surface issues... that still leaves over half of humanity that did however, and that's just not a good movie to be a part of!
This is what happened in the last time line.
15) HOWEVER, the P47s crash landing creates the time line we're in Now because they interfere with planet earth after, meaning they interfere with their own evolution after that landing. That means, "they" in the future will have different memories, experiences and potentials than they did in the P47 timeline, that means they literally create a whole new timeline at that point with NO foregone conclusions on how it will turn out.
The P47s start trading technologies with the government in return for the right to be here, abduct cattle and people etc.
And it's all signed into nice official documents that the international courts would recognize as legitimate.
In part, they are working on repairing their DNA, because it's started to fall apart, but only the beginning stages. They're still doing quite well 47000 years from now, and expecting with some human DNA manipulations they can get their bodies right back on track... but they're wrong, as we'll see on number 17 below.
16) Ok, so since the 1940's at least, we're on a whole new timeline than the one where the P47s get created. They still want things to go the way they went: the majority of people on planet earth meet a not so nice end in not so nice kind of way... ouch. HOWEVER, we're NOT on that time line. The game has been reset, and it's 'anybody's' game now.
17) NOW, we get introduced to the P52s.
It turns out that 47000 years from now, the Greys are still doing fairly well out there in Zeta Riticula, living large with no soul matrix and seeking to grow in domination of their part of the galaxy or whatnot. So the really nefarious ones are in charge over there and they send back a team of meanies to make sure they get created and things go 'their way'.
Fast forward 5000 years to 52000 years from now. Things are no longer looking up for the Greys! They are SICK. Very Sick. They are dying out. They have no soul matrix. They're DNA and bodies are literally falling apart. They can't repare them and they're sick.
Now this is a big problem for the Greys. They've literally worked out their own soul matrix from their evolution. That means they are going to die for real, just disapear when their casings completely stop functioning. What to do, what to do?
Why go back in time, to where it all goes down. It all goes down here in the next decade peoples. Of course they also come in advance, probably sometime in the 40s as well. But they have a very different mission than the P47s. They're not here to make sure things go terribly for the surface and they get created. NO, they are here to help people make the conciousness shift they are supposed to make to the new 5th Dimension so that they DON'T GET CREATED. They don't want people to go into the DUMBS. They don't want their human selves from 52000 years before, to go into the DUMBS. Because if they do, then they will likely eventually work their own soul matrix out of their evolution, and then one day... the infinite spiritual being they are meant to be, will simply cease to exist when their bodies break down 52000 years later...
My understanding is, the P52s are a slightly different batch of Greys, meaning they weren't buddy buddy with the P47s 47000 years from now. They are more the decent folk who ended up in the DUMBs and moved out on their own at some point. Once the bodies of all the Greys are seriously falling apart 52000 years from now, they gain more control over the technology and societies and gain access to time travel technology around then and mount this mission.
Make sense? Moving on..
18) Summary: P47s = Negative Greys, who are the negative humans who went into the DUMBs in the last timeline. They're here to try and steer things so the timeline repeats, which is bad for us here, because the surface of the earth gets pretty obliterated in the last timeline and less than 50% of humanity is able to make the jump in consciousness.
P52s = Decent Greys, here to try and help humanity make the shift into the 5th, which is what we need to do now in order to get back on the divine timeline. That way, the P52s keep their souls and keep their evolutions going rather than turning into souless greys who will disapear when their bodies completely breakdown in the near 'future'. Now "Decent" is probably stretching the terminology here. We're still dealing with an alien species that is a collective, does not have emotion or a soul, and probably does not respect humans very much at all... They are not here to harm us, but they may not be very impressed by us either, they are massively technological and so have a built in ego complex essentially. The point is, working with any Greys whatsoever is NOT a good idea for humans.
19) NOW, if we think we can wrap our head around that, there's more to add to the mix. There was MORE than one crash landing at Roswell, and there are indeed other Greys who crashed there that are NOT from the future. (See Matilda O'Donnell's Alien Interview for that story: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11323) Greys are designed by some cloning group or planet somewhere, and they are designing them now as well as in the future. These other Greys were, to my best guess, never from this planet. (Side note: Maybe the dumb scientist are able to reverse engineer some of these modern day grey bodies and that's how they jump into them at some point? Just a thought). I personally have no idea how involved this third (or more) group of Greys is, but personally, I have zero degrees trust for them. There's no question that a very significant percentage of the Greys have no problem abducing people, and doing all sorts of nasty stuff with them.
I will throw in my advice here, that if you EVER encounter a Grey alien, call to Archangel Michael loud and clear, over and over and HE WILL PROTECT YOU. Good advice, take it!
20) Remember, these Greys have technology that is well beyond our understanding. They most definitely can play with time to a certain degree and cause total amnesia for us. So even if you are confident you have never had any dealings with them, if you are an avid reader or researcher in this forum, chances are you could be very wrong. You simply won't remember the vast majority of the time. It can also happen when you're sleeping they can take you in your finer bodies.
Archangel Michael is by far the best protection against these things. If you're Christian and you feel uncomfortable calling to Archangel Michael (even though he's in the Christian Bible), when faced with an abduction or visitation scenario, call to Jesus Christ over and over, he will answer your call and he will protect, but don't be lax about it!
Ok, well, I mixed what I got out of Dan Burish's stuff with some of my own insights around that and that's what's up there in the 20 or so points above. Maybe you will get something out of it too, or already did when going through some of this man's and other materials! :)
P.S. Dan Burish also let us know about cool things like Viewing cubes and looking glasses which are also very very interesting. I believe for the real deal researchers, multiple dimensions becomes the first important thing, multiple timelines and realities the second. It's all interconnected and the control is done through multi dimension, time line and reality manipulation.
P.P.S. Where Dan Burisch has zero expertise is in other types of alien species and some of the other stuff that is going on. The rabbit hole by NO MEANS stops with the Greys. If any of the many other whistleblowers and intutiives about these type of issues are to be taken seriously, they are one species among many here on earth right now, and they aren't even the meanest (although it sounds to me like the P47s are RIGHT UP THERE in terms of meanness, but not necessarilly in terms of power and control).
So personally, I THANK DAN BURISCH for opening my eyes to this stuff, which I personally have found fascinating and an important piece of the puzzle in the search for truth.
All 'whistleblowers' and people sharing sensitive information as they understand it are by no means perfect. They are imperfect people, with human egos that often get out of control, they also face opposition from around them and even within them and things can spiral in the wrong direction for the way they interact with people and some stuff that they say and do. As I said, I personally don't follow Dan Burisch other than the initial interview and I'm not suggesting anyone else does or does not either.
Like someone said in another thread, it's not the outer personality and faux pas of the messenger that is the key, it is the message and the truth will resonate. This information above has most definitely resonated with me :).