Found: Kenya Birth Certificate for Obama

[THE eXchanger]

Found: Kenya Birth Certificate for Obama tonight on Political Pistachio Radio Revolution

www.blogtalkradio.com/politicalpistachio/2009/08/03/Political-Pistachio-Radio-Revolution

[Humble Janitor]

It's amazing how people can allow such a distraction to consume their time and resources.

[Unified Serenity]

Blows out breath.... Holy COW!

The radio show is great. Worldnetdaily.com has a great article as does Prison planet. Drudge Report is not saying anything... I am going to be listening to the radio a LOT tomorrow.

This is possibly the big event they have been waiting for to push the people over the edge. Thus my internal response to try to negate the fear and anger energy.

Despite Obama being half white, the people scream racism for questioning his birth origin. This could be a race uprising, political uprising, and turn to violence. Deep breath and centering. May Americans keep our heads and follow the constitutional remedy take place.

I felt the energy shift today and have been bracing myself, and thereby have I played my own negative part in this? Time to go center and remain a still reed despite the storm.

I am praying for our leaders, we the people to keep cool heads and do the right thing. Ok, I'm excited, but watching.... thanks for the post.

[Unified Serenity]

Ok, my mind is working here. I know the NWO hate the black people. What better way to have a mass uprising than put one of theirs (though he is half white) in office, let them feel the joy and now have him humiliated and be by image a blight on them, thus the race war they want. Killing and fighting erupt and they love the energy of hate, anger, chaos.... "Order out of chaos" mantra they live by.

The unhappy military may have an uprising in the ranks for those desperate to get out of it and Iraq, the uprising brings in calls for the UN to bring in troops to restore peace, and martial law is declared thus suspending the constitution and watching the absolute destruction of our rights... gun grab is coming.

Ok, this is a hot topic and there are much energies swimming in astral.

[Karen]

It's amazing how people can allow such a distraction to consume their time and resources.

Humble Janitor,

Why do you object so much to people following their own heart and their own path? We are not all here on the same task. Is it such a great use of your time to so often object to another's postings? Why not put your positive attention instead on those things which you do support? What about what you resist persists? How about allowance?

We all are this amazing huge sparkling diamond. Each facet placed at it's own angle to make up the whole. Let each one shine and sparkle as their heart demands and you do the same ... please stop telling other people to not be themselves. Maybe they have a lesson to experience before moving to a new level. A l l o w.

[Unified Serenity]

As an American I have a very direct concern over this bomb shell of an issue. I think this has been planned, and what mine field are we walking in right now? Things will be very interesting once the people learn of this.

Key points if you don't listen to the radio show:

1. Is this a real document of Obama's Birth Certificate showing he was born in Kenya?

2. The second point people are raising is the fact that it's a 1964 document when he was born in 1961. On that point, Mrs. Obama was getting a divorce and it is very possible she needed to get a copy of the birth record for her divorce so she got it just before her divorce in 1964.

3. Why is it in English? Answer is Kenya was a British colony and did all documents in English. There is something about English is the legal language and Swahili is the official language. I don't quite get that but apparently it still works that way, not sure though.

4. Key point is that now the Supreme court will have to deal with this issue. Is Biden President despite the election being a fraud? Does the Speaker of the House become the President or the Secretary of State Clinton? So, will the major media pick this up and stir the flames? If this is a planned disaster then it will be in the major media. I do note that they don't put bombshells out on Fridays, but at the beginning of the week while we are not distracted with activities.

5. Congress and unilaterally ok all of Obama's decisions, so this won't undo anything if Congress is not attacked by the American people who might rise up in anger.

Ok, those were key points.

Read here for some good info: Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306640/posts)

[Humble Janitor]

Humble Janitor,

Why do you object so much to people following their own heart and their own path? We are not all here on the same task. Is it such a great use of your time to so often object to another's postings? Why not put your positive attention instead on those things which you do support? What about what you resist persists? How about allowance?

We all are this amazing huge sparkling diamond. Each facet placed at it's own angle to make up the whole. Let each one shine and sparkle as their heart demands and you do the same ... please stop telling other people to not be themselves. Maybe they have a lesson to experience before moving to a new level. A l l o w.

I should have been specific as I didn't mean to single out the person who posted the article. What I really meant to direct my frustration at is the people who have spent months and months blowing this birth certificate stuff out of proportion. It was planted by a right wing pundit and people have run with it. With all of the other problems humanity is facing at this moment, a birth certificate serves to distract people (in my opinion) from these greater issues.

I'll be honest here. The whole birth certificate debacle irritates me because I allow it to do so, thus falling back on older, non-productive behaviors.

It's cool either way. If it so happens to be true, then it will be an interesting turn of events. My intuition tells me that it's a fake.

[burgundia]

I've always felt that if anything, this would be the ace in the hole...

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

well does it matter who is runningthe show as it crumbles. the american people will not take head to obama or anyone else once the puppet masters drop the hammer. obama has as much power as wind up toy.

[Luminari]

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/kenyandocument.jpg

[Luminari]

Personally I don't mind if Obama was born in hawaii, kenya or uranus...

I think he is a 'white hat' in the vipers pit. A brave man, but time will tell what his legacy will be.

I'm on the fence here. Neutral like switzerland.
Is this all part of a long term plan to change the constitution so that Schwarzenegger can be president of the future?

"Vote For Me If You Want To Live"

[Seashore]

Personally I don't mind if Obama was born in hawaii, kenya or uranus...



What matters is the deception of his handlers.

[Seashore]

...My intuition tells me that it's a fake.

Although there is much evidence, I understand, that Obama was born in Kenya, after listening to the August 1, 2009 archive of Alex Jones interviewing Philip Berg, it sounds to me that this document probably is fake.

Here's a quote from an Infowars.com article (http://www.infowars.com/purported-kenyan-obama-birth-certificate-surfaces/) about the issue:

"Alex said the document may indeed be a forgery intended to further discredit the movement to establish Barack Obama’s place of birth."

[Unified Serenity]

The document has all the obvious clues that it is an old document that was not touched for a long time. It looks like it's just been in a file, maybe from her divorce case in 1964, I dunno. She applied for her divorce and as normal precedings before granting child support one has to prove who the father is and the judge would have demanded a bc for Obama proving who his father is. So between the date she filed for divorce and when it was granted the Kenyan document is prepared most logically from known records there of his birth, and sealed with the Kenyan seal. It is a hell of a lot more genuine of a document than the Hawaiian COLB.

The most probable reason for the date discrepancies is that she requested it for her divorce in 1964 to prove a foreign father who should pay child support, then when he doesn't she applies for a Hawaiian bc to get on welfare for non-payment of child support.

A document created in 1964 would not have a doctors signature. It's not a long form document. This Kenyan one is very much akin to the Hawiian COLB except it does say the hospital where he was born. Look at the page. Deep creases like a folded document left for years and due to humidity etc. the creases widen and are what one would expect.

Is it a verified document? I don't know yet as Mrs. Taitz apparently arrived in London today to compare the info with what the British may have from that time. It really is a misnomer to focus on whether BO was born in Hawaii. His father was not an American. Therefore he is not a natural born citizen. He could be a naturalized citizen or native born citizen, but not natural born. Those are legal distinctions, and to serve as President he has to be a Natural born citizen. It's about protecting America's national interests. It helps put extra security for us if there is a situation that the President would not have a natural conflict of interest by being tied to another country so directly.

Obama is not qualified to be our President. If the American people think its stupid to have that qualification for President then Amend the Constitution. But why would we want a President with an obvious conflict of interest? Granted they haven't represented "We the People" in decades, but the Constitution is important to me and a great many of the great unwashed citizens of America.

[mntruthseeker]

I have gotten to know some of the people that have been working on this for a very long time through Larry Sinclair. It is more than just the proof of his citizenship. It goes hand and hand with corruption, murder and much much more. I do not chat with these people any long but I have followed their writings. Millions of peoples lives have been lost because this didnt just start with Obama, it includes his associates. It may do some good for the people here that feel it is NOT without a purpose.



I do know that Andy Martin, Phillip Berg , Citizen Wells and many others have done the job they set out to do. The found it. They never put this task to sleep. They had too many "clues" to this being out there. Apparently a divorice filing brought it out.


My head is spinning with all the "what is going to happen now"?

[orthodoxymoron]

Unified Serenity: I completely agree with you. This thing (the citizenship issue in general) could create a perfect storm. Problem. Reaction. Solution.

Regarding negative comments...to me...this is part of the game. It can be annoying...but it is a challenge to deal with...and it forces us to think. Think of it as a mental discipline and character builder. I often disagree with HJ...but again...I am forced to rethink my comments...and find innovative ways to defend them. In some ways...I wish there was more passion, conflict, and gloves-off exchanges. This is when real truth and insight seems to emerge. I'm not sure where the proper balance point is. I'd make a lousy moderator. I'd just ask a controversial question...hold the coats...and look the other way! :nono::tongue2::lightsabre::lmao: Just kidding, of course!

[Northern Boy]

I was going to reply but then thought why bother

[Seashore]

Unified Serenity: I completely agree with you. This thing could create a perfect storm. Problem. Reaction. Solution.

Regarding negative comments...to me...this is part of the game. It can be annoying...but it is a challenge to deal with...and it forces us to think. Think of it as a mental discipline and character builder. I often disagree with HJ...but again...I am forced to rethink my comments...and find innovative ways to defend them. In some ways...I wish there was more passion, conflict, and gloves-off exchanges. This is when real truth and insight seems to emerge. I'm not sure where the proper balance point is. I'd make a lousy moderator. I'd just ask a controversial question...hold the coats...and look the other way! :nono::tongue2::lightsabre::lmao:

In my opinion, respectful debate is what produces a desirable outcome.

And people should most definitely practice what they preach.

[Myplanet2]

I started to wonder what was coming when I saw a couple of alt news reports that Hillary seemed to be going into campaign mode again. Does she know something?

They could be playing their big card now to try to take Obambam down, but I couldn't believe the sheep elected him amid all the ignoring of evidence he wasn't eligible due to origin, and recent news he's signed an executive order to the effect that it would be illegal to look into his past? What's up with that?

I don't personally believe an honest, decent person can be elected president of the U.S. these days. It's got to be one of the most tightly controlled processes in all of politics.

[mntruthseeker]

this explains what Lou Dobbs reported and his findings. Now, this is a man that I believe speaks for us, the people and is much appreciated.




http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12881:media-mischief-the-obama-eligibility-issue-and-the-dispositive-fact-&catid=71:world-news&Itemid=201


THE WORLD IS WATCHING

[THE eXchanger]

as Bill Ryan says :

"The best place to hide...
is right out in the open"

i wonder what the face eXperts in the world
would have to say about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcxhcMyn8rU
+ xxx

[mntruthseeker]

as Bill Ryan says :

"The best place to hide...
is right out in the open"

i wonder what the face eXperts in the world
would have to say about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcxhcMyn8rU


OMG I missed that one. I do know that back in June they arrested Hal Turner (as had been done in the past) Hal is an x FBI turned informant. They are accusing him of being a "american white nationalist" Said he was trying to exploit racial division. Can we say he tried to tell the truth


You know this ties into all that is happening in Chicago right now. Patrick Fitzgerald promised a more arrest and they had not even finished with all of these court hearings involving Rezlo and now Blagojevich and so many others. Read this for some of this

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/obama-indictment/

Susan,

The video was remarkable and I had a little trouble with only the noses.....but makeup goes a long ways doesnt it? They even have the exact same stature. OMG OMG who would ever thought.

Hal Turner needs our prayers very much people. I must go see if he is our on bail now.

[Machinamentum]

do NOT miss this video

"The best place to hide...
is right out in the open"
Bill Ryan

i wonder what the face eXperts in the world
would have to say about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcxhcMyn8rU

WOW!! I don't even think there is any plastic surgery involved in that? Maybe a little? WOW CRAZY!

[orthodoxymoron]

Osama Bin Laden is dead. Here's the proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot4jFZ_owhs&feature=fvw

Remember Leo Zagami's rant while in 'prison'? He spoke of being in cahoots with Osama Bin Laden. It sounded to me as though Lucifer was speaking through Leo. If this is true...and Osama is Obama...we're in very deep do-do. This is much more of a stretch than usual...but one never knows. This theory has a .0003871% chance of being true.

Any chance that Obama and Osama are related? This has a .00149% chance of being true.

[burgundia]

i can assure you that Obama is not Osama. I can see the difference....

[mntruthseeker]

I loved them all ................now check these two out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfn4vXY8uz0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reaByc8c_0s&feature=related


Do you think things are closing in a little more now?


Sorry about the second video.................Just realized they blocked out the sound tracks. UNBELIEVABLE

[no caste]

The jury's out on the authenticity of the Kenyan birth certificate IMO.

Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/03/kenyan-birth-certificate_n_249850.html

Oddly, the same people who are so skeptical of Obama's Hawaii birth certificate are willing to accept this new document despite many flaws, documented by the Washington Independent's Dave Weigel and Markos Moulitsas.

Here are just some of the flaws:

Kenya was a Dominion the date this certificate was allegedly issued and would not become a republic for 8 months.

Mombasa belonged to Zanzibar when Obama was born, not Kenya.

Obama's father's village would be nearer to Nairobi, not Mombasa.

The number 47O44-- 47 is Obama's age when he became president, followed by the letter O (not a zero) followed by 44--he is the 44th president....

Karl Rove responded to the circulation of the new paper on Twitter, saying "I believe this is likely a forgery."

[no caste]

Obama height - 6'2"
Osama height - 6'4" - 6'6"

The Antichrist titles on the vids = racist IMO.

[Humble Janitor]

I saw on ATS that this certificate has been proven to be a hoax.

[Humble Janitor]

As No Caste pointed out, the Obama = Osama stuff on youtube is some of the most racist, blockheaded stuff to ever make it out onto the internet.

The folks that created said videos love to bathe in negativity.

[Unified Serenity]

I don't think anything is proven at this point. Some good points are raised to concider it's validity, but I think it should be decided by evidence presented in a just court. That's the scary part really in expecting justice to be blind and go on facts and not be intimidated or have an agenda.

As previously said, he could have been born on camera in Hawaii and it would NOT make Obama a natural born citizen! No one whose father or mother is not an American can claim natural born citizen. So the fact is already proven that Obama is NOT eligible to be the President and no one of means to affect this legally is willing to do the right thing and demand his removal. Congress is derelict in their duty, the Military is derelict in their duty to protect and defend our great constitution, and we the people are derelict in our duty to unashamedly march en masse everywhere demanding his removal.

I'm guilty too. I can bitch and whine, but I'm not marching the streets. I am not complying, but I am not doing anything other than bitch.

[orthodoxymoron]

In my opinion, respectful debate is what produces a desirable outcome.

And people should most definitely practice what they preach.

Respectful debate can become heated...at times.

Which people are you referring to?

[mntruthseeker]

[QUOTE=Unified Serenity;158509]I don't think anything is proven at this point. Some good points are raised to concider it's validity, but I think it should be decided by evidence presented in a just court. That's the scary part really in expecting justice to be blind and go on facts and not be intimidated or have an agenda.

As previously said, he could have been born on camera in Hawaii and it would NOT make Obama a natural born citizen! No one whose father or mother is not an American can claim natural born citizen. So the fact is already proven that Obama is NOT eligible to be the President and no one of means to affect this legally is willing to do the right thing and demand his removal. Congress is derelict in their duty, the Military is derelict in their duty to protect and defend our great constitution, and we the people are derelict in our duty to unashamedly march en masse everywhere demanding his removal.

I agree with you 100 %. I didnt want to answer HJ because I felt it fell on the border of judging again.

You have such a valid point and maybe this is just to pick up more support on the issue. What difference does it really make, unless it removes all the laws he has passed and they lose time

[Steve_A]

Hi no caste,

The easiest way to find out if the birth certificate is genuine, is to go to the Coast Province registry office and check the ledger; Book 44B Page 5733.
All the details will be there.

Best regards,

Steve





The jury's out on the authenticity of the Kenyan birth certificate IMO.

Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/03/kenyan-birth-certificate_n_249850.html

Oddly, the same people who are so skeptical of Obama's Hawaii birth certificate are willing to accept this new document despite many flaws, documented by the Washington Independent's Dave Weigel and Markos Moulitsas.

Here are just some of the flaws:

Kenya was a Dominion the date this certificate was allegedly issued and would not become a republic for 8 months.

Mombasa belonged to Zanzibar when Obama was born, not Kenya.

Obama's father's village would be nearer to Nairobi, not Mombasa.

The number 47O44-- 47 is Obama's age when he became president, followed by the letter O (not a zero) followed by 44--he is the 44th president....

Karl Rove responded to the circulation of the new paper on Twitter, saying "I believe this is likely a forgery."

[viking]

Just another angle....update on Jane blog?!!

An alleged birth certificate showing that President Barack Obama was born in Kenya has been produced by a US lawyer, Orly Taitz, who is filing a motion for authetication of the certificate.

If President Obama is, indeed, in office illegally in as far as he does not meet the constitutional requirement for a president be US born, then all the laws, decrees and regulations issued by the Obama administration, including those relating to mass vaccinations against the “swine flu”, must also be, a priori and without exception, invalid and illegal.

Here is a report on the latest controversy surrounding Obama’s legitimacy:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

viking

[no caste]

Hi no caste,

The easiest way to find out if the birth certificate is genuine, is to go to the Coast Province registry office and check the ledger; Book 44B Page 5733.
All the details will be there.

Best regards,

Steve

No problem. I'll hop into my private jet and do that. Where is Coast Province?

[Steve_A]

Hi no caste,

Coast Province is the province / state / county in Kenya where Barak Obama is accused of being born.

ANY INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST who wants to prove that he is in fact Kenyan only has to do that. Go to the register office and get a new birth certificate. Simple. No brainer.

If Ortz, or whatever his name is, wants to prove without any shred of doubt that Obama is Kenyan, surely he would have done this by now.

I'm frankly suprised that there isn't a huge queue waiting to get Obama birth certificates as souvenirs.

Best regards,

Steve



No problem. I'll hop into my private jet and do that. Where is Coast Province?

[orthodoxymoron]

Someone should open an OBAMALAND in Kenya...and sell Obama Birth Cerificates. This sounds like a good business for Homer Simpson!:lol3:

[THE eXchanger]

who would become president, if obama goes out ?

the speaker of the house - the lady P (not sure of how to spell her last name - since, i am NOT american)

and, biden remains as vp ?

i've always thought the vp; welds more power, than the president

and, the last one of those, was a national diaster !!!

[mntruthseeker]

who would become president, if obama goes out ?

the speaker of the house - the lady P (not sure of how to spell her last name - since, i am NOT american)

and, biden remains as vp ?

i've always thought the vp; welds more power, than the president

and, the last one of those, was a national diaster !!!

Peloski would be the one seeing as Biden ran on a "false" ticket so to speak

This thought has ran through my mind and its a scary one.

Peloski is her name and she is in the same boat as Obama and the rest of them.........................I can't imagine Hillary actually thinking she now has a chance as we are getting emails. What a mess !

It makes me think of what my father always said to us girls

Be careful what you wish for...................:nono:

[Myplanet2]

Here's a nightmare for you. The election is declared invalid and has to be run all over again, and Bush gets his job back:jawdrop::nono:

[THE eXchanger]

- funny thing is, i said, awhile back,
when they were sorting out, who would run,
that hilary would some how end up wearing the pants !!! :lmao:
and, also that a vote right/or a vote left
was a vote, that landed in the same camp !!!

perhaps; the USA needs a 3rd party

a whole lot less congress members

and, perhaps, it would be a good idea, to go back to individual states

[THE eXchanger]

Here's a nightmare for you. The election is declared invalid and has to be run all over again, and Bush gets his job back:jawdrop::nono:

ironically; the michael entity, once said

there was a likeihood, he'd die in office

[Sarahmay]

On the 8/4 Jeff Rense show, he pointed out the connection between Orly Taitz, the spokeswoman of the birther movement, and Israel...which makes her motivations pretty obvious. And her husband is connected to Novartis, the pharmaceutical company who is suspected of engineering the H1N1 flu virus. Very interesting.

[mntruthseeker]

On the 8/4 Jeff Rense show, he pointed out the connection between Orly Taitz, the spokeswoman of the birther movement, and Israel...which makes her motivations pretty obvious. And her husband is connected to Novartis, the pharmaceutical company who is suspected of engineering the H1N1 flu virus. Very interesting.


That absolutely makes no sense at all. If anything she would be out there encouraging people to take the vaccine.

Wouldn't you agree that most of Obama's staff has connections to Israel? Rahm Emanuel especially

I tend to go along with David Icke's view and see this for what it is.....A fear tactic and a means to possibly insert the chips

[Antonia]

If Obama's mum was planning all along, to register her Kenian born son in Hawai so's to fraudulently obtain American citizenship, why would she regester him in kenya as well before hand? Birth registration is not mandetry or automatic Especially not back then . She was an itellegent woman and if this was her stratigy then she would not have drawn attension to his kennian birth???

Personally I agree with Lumanari... I couldn't care were he was born. Timbuck bloody two for all I care. He's doing a much better job of being US presedent then many many that heve gone before him..... Even if he's the best of a bad bunch, what would you rather ? McCain? Hillery?? Sara Palin?? That is if it's still the real Obama and not a clone...

[Phtha]

He's doing a much better job of being US presedent then many many that heve gone before him..... Even if he's the best of a bad bunch, what would you rather ? McCain? Hillery?? Sara Palin?? That is if it's still the real Obama and not a clone...

How is he doing a much better job?
And I personally couldn't care which one of the stooges you mentioned got in. They are all puppets. Obama being the most charismatic of the bunch is perhaps the most dangerous as he fools that many more people.

[Humble Janitor]

Here's a nightmare for you. The election is declared invalid and has to be run all over again, and Bush gets his job back:jawdrop::nono:

I'm sure there are people who would love to see this happen. Fortunately, it's not possible anyway.

Shouldn't Dr.Paul be strengthening his grassroots campaign to give it another go in 2012? He could actually win if he can get more people. I think it's unlikely that I'll be voting for Obama if 2012 actually comes around.

[Humble Janitor]

If Obama's mum was planning all along, to register her Kenian born son in Hawai so's to fraudulently obtain American citizenship, why would she regester him in kenya as well before hand? Birth registration is not mandetry or automatic Especially not back then . She was an itellegent woman and if this was her stratigy then she would not have drawn attension to his kennian birth???

Personally I agree with Lumanari... I couldn't care were he was born. Timbuck bloody two for all I care. He's doing a much better job of being US presedent then many many that heve gone before him..... Even if he's the best of a bad bunch, what would you rather ? McCain? Hillery?? Sara Palin?? That is if it's still the real Obama and not a clone...

McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. If he had won, I bet dollars to donuts that people would ignore this fact. Don't ask me why as it should be apparent. ;)

We are NOT a post-racial country. There is still racism.

Keep in mind, this does NOT refer to anyone on these forums. :)

[dolphin]

Humble Janitor,

Why do you object so much to people following their own heart and their own path? We are not all here on the same task. Is it such a great use of your time to so often object to another's postings? Why not put your positive attention instead on those things which you do support? What about what you resist persists? How about allowance?

We all are this amazing huge sparkling diamond. Each facet placed at it's own angle to make up the whole. Let each one shine and sparkle as their heart demands and you do the same ... please stop telling other people to not be themselves. Maybe they have a lesson to experience before moving to a new level. A l l o w.

thanks karen, my sentiments exactly. it's VERY PERTINENT INFO!!!! and i'm glad exchanger posted it and i LOVE spending my TIME on it.

[Steve_A]

Hi Everyone,

The left wing of US politics is worried about the latest 'birth certificate'.

On the majority of the leftist websites there are comments about making an online forged Kenyan birth certificate, citing the site http://www.kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com

This site was registered on 4th of August 2009. It's clear that this is an attempt to ridicule the fact that this new birth certificate showed up.

This in itself speaks volumes.

The name of the registrant of the site is not declared except that the site is held on the http://www.dreamhost.com server.

With all said and done, there is a publication available at the following address: http://www.africanchildforum.org/Documents/Universal%20Birth%20Registration_final.pdf which states that,

"Birth registration in Africa originated when colonial administrations, such as in East Africa, made it compulsory for non-Africans to register births. After independence, many countries, including Uganda, Kenya, Zambia and Zimbabwe, adapted these colonial instruments to implement national legislation with uniform application."

Would that shed a light on anything?

Best regards,

Steve

[Humble Janitor]

Isn't it a forgery?

Just wondering.

[Steve_A]

Hi Humble Janitor,

I don't think that if that particular example of 'the' birth certificate is fake or not is important any longer at this point in time.

What raised my eyebrows is that the leftist movement took it upon itself to actively try and ridicule the thing. Just that alone tells a huge story.

If the leftist movement knows that it's a forgery, all it had to do was.... well.... nothing. After all, the truth always comes out in the end.

So now the question needs to be not 'if' the thing is a fake, but "Why the leftist movement took time out to try and prove it was a fake by setting up a site where you can crudely fake a birth certificate, albeit based on a jpg image of the certificate that was presented?"

Seems odd.

Best regards,

Steve



Isn't it a forgery?

Just wondering.

[Humble Janitor]

First of all, the word "leftist" sounds newspeak to me and it was coined by the right-wing to discredit the left.

Second of all, as a sometimes leftist/sometimes libertarian, I know nothing of this movement. I bet it was born out of frustration towards the anti-Obama crowd.

Personally, both movements are a waste of time when there are far more important things to worry about.

The old Left vs Right game is just that: Old.

[Stargazer1965]

First of all, the word "leftist" sounds newspeak to me and it was coined by the right-wing to discredit the left.

Second of all, as a sometimes leftist/sometimes libertarian, I know nothing of this movement. I bet it was born out of frustration towards the anti-Obama crowd.

Personally, both movements are a waste of time when there are far more important things to worry about.

The old Left vs Right game is just that: Old.

HJ please don't take this wrong...you are viewing from 50 feet when 10,000 might get you a little bit more of the picture.....the canvas covers the entire nation

[Steve_A]

Hi Humble Janitor,

perhaps I was a little unfortunate about my 'leftist' label. However I got the lead from the site

http://www.democraticunderground.com

also from

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/08/lighter_side_all_kenyans_now.php?ref=fpblg

I should have said Obama supporter.

Best regards,

Steve








First of all, the word "leftist" sounds newspeak to me and it was coined by the right-wing to discredit the left.

Second of all, as a sometimes leftist/sometimes libertarian, I know nothing of this movement. I bet it was born out of frustration towards the anti-Obama crowd.

Personally, both movements are a waste of time when there are far more important things to worry about.

The old Left vs Right game is just that: Old.

[Unified Serenity]

Barack Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWd2INPhL4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wnd.com%2Findex.php%3Ffa%3DP AGE.view%26pageId%3D107678&feature=player_embedded)

WND has this story at http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107678

It looks different than Corsi's. It does appear he got something in an African town. It would be nice to see it up close.

[THE eXchanger]

Barack Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWd2INPhL4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wnd.com%2Findex.php%3Ffa%3DP AGE.view%26pageId%3D107678&feature=player_embedded)

WND has this story at http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107678

It looks different than Corsi's. It does appear he got something in an African town. It would be nice to see it up close.

yes, it would be, did this go to court yet ???

[peaceandlove]

See this information on Obama admitting he is not natural born I just posted here:

Post #83

Re: supreme court ruling on obama's elig. for presidency

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=210694#post210694