Knowing and freedom

[BROOK]

After reading the last couple of days, I decided to rejoin for a time to sort some things that have been bothering me.

When I left it was due to the fact that separation was of key importance and starting radiant zones was in the making...and being Advertised. Not a good idea....in my opinion.

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Setting goals for contingency plans is not a bad thing....however I had a huge problem with taking the energy you possess to a centralized spot to isolate from the world.


In the last couple of weeks there have been many here upset by the goals of the PTB....Whistleblowers , informers, people in the knowing....who are these people you are all fighting about?

They are nothing different then you or I..they are humans, seeking TRUTH and KNOWING.

We are all here searching for truth and knowing...but the most important thing you need to realize is you already have the truth.

It's embedded within every cell of our body....all you need to do is tap into it..what is preventing you from tapping into it....it this...

EGO

YouTube - the ego p1/3

The ego driven by fear, self imposed lies, and blind acceptance.

Why do you need anyone to tell you what you already KNOW?
It's in you..and very soon ..you will have the ability to freely tap into it....that is what TPTB are afraid of right now.
They would love to see you all run to radiant zones and separate your self to throw the energy of that knowing off from the grid.

I kept asking myself why I was so drawn to Southern California?..I have always know it's been said that it's going to fall into the ocean..so why am I drawn here?

I'm here to keep the energy stable..along with many others here, and many who are not even aware they're doing just that.

So hopefully it will not be the complete end, and just a major rebuild. And when that happens...as I've seen in my dreams...I will be there ...Am I running to a safe zone? No..I'm staying right here with my community.


I've seen bright minds leave here..who I have cherished every word of..I have seen threads calling out BS on paid for whistleblowers, who speak as if they already know...
Do they really know?
Do you all really know?
Do I really know?

My ego fights a battle with me every day...and so does yours..it's something you cannot run from. It's always there. As long as you are in this 3D existence...you will have to deal with it...getting it under control by KNOWING is the KEY!

Are you going to go off the words of other ego driven ones that tell their truth? Or are you going to search your own truth...it's up to you what you let your ego take control of.

You all want freedom......

Ahhhh FREEDOM!

Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud




In his book Nobody’s Victim, Christopher J. McCullough explains, "In order to live your freedom, you must first accept reality. ‘These are the choices, and given those choices, which do I choose?’ Whether the option you select is pleasant or painful does not alter the fact that, given reality, this is your preference.
"To live your freedom, it is helpful to stop and ask yourself, ‘Why am I doing this?’ and then notice whether, given the options, you are choosing what you really want, or whether you want to choose something else.... Sometimes the exercise of freedom involves naming your poison -- all choices may lead to outcomes that are in some way painful. But the real pain is that of feeling powerless -- denying your freedom."

"Freedom is man's capacity to take a hand in his own development. It is our capacity to mold ourselves."
-- Dr. Rollo May

Some of the greatest prophets have told you ..you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

another said, Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind

don't let the blind lead your truth...when you meditate..do only one thing..meditate on one thing alone.....KNOWING...it's within you

Bless you all
Brook

[tone3jaguar]

I agree, the actual meaning of ego is who you believe you are in this world. This guy has an ego, that guy has an ego? I think a while back people started confusing the words arrogance and ego and somehow ego got tagged as an appropriate adjective to describe arrogant people.

Am I arrogant? Depends on what side of the desk you are sitting on. If the observer of my style of communication does not agree with the message then the perception is that I am arrogant. However, if the observer agrees with the message then the perception is that I am valiant.

Do I spend any significant time worrying about which way the perceptions are going? No I do not. I learned a long time ago that focusing on how one is being judged by others is a complete waste of time and muddies the waters of intuition.

People should say what ever they feel they need to say. If it ruffles feathers than so be it. No one ever changed anything for the better by playing it safe and walking on egg shells all of the time.

[Anchor]

I decided to rejoin for a time to sort some things that have been bothering me.

I am glad you are back, and that was a cracking good post !!!

A..

[Unified Serenity]

It's nice to have you back. We each definitely have our own path. I'm not sure it is running to leave the rat race, as it could be choosing to walk a better more peaceful path and show our children a different way.

[giovonni]

Greeting's my Friend:lol3:
So wonderful too see you back and feel your presence!

Your words
"My ego fights a battle with me every day...and so does yours..it's something you cannot run from. It's always there. As long as you are in this 3D existence...you will have to deal with it...getting it under control by KNOWING is the KEY!

Are you going to go off the words of other ego driven ones that tell their truth? Or are you going to search your own truth...it's up to you what you let your ego take control of.

You all want freedom......

Ahhhh FREEDOM!"

This is very profound ~ and hopefully will reasonates with all here.

I very much agree with this :thumb_yello:
Much love always<>too you BROOK<>Gio

[BROOK]

If you can get past the intensity of Jake and his EGO in the part one video...there is very good information there.
Here is part two and three...very good enlightening information.

YouTube - the ego p2/3


YouTube - the ego p3/3

[burgundia]

I agree, the actual meaning of ego is who you believe you are in this world. This guy has an ego, that guy has an ego? I think a while back people started confusing the words arrogance and ego and somehow ego got tagged as an appropriate adjective to describe arrogant people.

Am I arrogant? Depends on what side of the desk you are sitting on. If the observer of my style of communication does not agree with the message then the perception is that I am arrogant. However, if the observer agrees with the message then the perception is that I am valiant.

Do I spend any significant time worrying about which way the perceptions are going? No I do not. I learned a long time ago that focusing on how one is being judged by others is a complete waste of time and muddies the waters of intuition.

People should say what ever they feel they need to say. If it ruffles feathers than so be it. No one ever changed anything for the better by playing it safe and walking on egg shells all of the time.

:thumb_yello:

[mudra]

Oops sorry double posting

[mudra]

Welcome back Brook. Your presence is appreciated here.


When I left it was due to the fact that separation was of key importance and starting radiant zones was in the making...and being Advertised. Not a good idea....in my opinion.


[/LEFT]
Setting goals for contingency plans is not a bad thing....however I had a huge problem with taking the energy you possess to a centralized spot to isolate from the world.

I see it this way it's not the world that creates us but we who are creating the world.
The one we are in right now is a sinking ship with lots of holes and leaks into it.
The values it holds don't guarantee peace and a decent place to live for the whole of humanity.
While some as you and me and many others on this planet are staying in the front patching the wounds by offering our light and our hearts others in the back yard are aiming at the construction of a fresh new boat. I think this is only fair and sound. This is consciousness at work and evolving from chrysalis to free butterfly.
Life is about changes and freedom is being where one feels he has to be to fullfill his role in the co-creation of the higher plan.
Feel the love and Know that this is unity at work and that we all stand in ONE world.



We are all here searching for truth and knowing...but the most important thing you need to realize is you already have the truth.


[COLOR=Cyan][I][B]"Freedom is man's capacity to take a hand in his own development. It is our capacity to mold ourselves."
-- Dr. Rollo May

Some of the greatest prophets have told you ..you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

[COLOR=Cyan][COLOR=Red]


Good points :thumb_yello:

Loving kindness
mudra

[Oliver]

BROOK: We are all here searching for truth and knowing...but the most important thing you need to realize is you already have the truth.
It's embedded within every cell of our body....all you need to do is tap into it..what is preventing you from tapping into it....it this...EGO


Stright in the center, Brook. Congratulation!
Ego is not only preventing us TO KNOW, but also TO LOVE unconditionally, TO GIVE without expecting anything for return, TO COMPASSION, TO ADMIT that somebody is greater than us, TO RESPECT, TO SERVE THE OTHERS, to…and finaly TO BE FREE.

That beast – The Ego! The source of all evil!

[rhythm]

When people see things as good

other things become bad :wink2:...

SO nice to see you here Brook :wub2:

[BROOK]

Welcome back Brook. Your presence is appreciated here.
Coming from you Mudra, after the incident on your thread that is comforting.

I see it this way it's not the world that creates us but we who are creating the world.
The one we are in right now is a sinking ship with lots of holes and leaks into it.
The values it holds don't guarantee peace and a decent place to live for the whole of humanity.
While some as you and me and many others on this planet are staying in the front patching the wounds by offering our light and our hearts others in the back yard are aiming at the construction of a fresh new boat. I think this is only fair and sound. This is consciousness at work and evolving from chrysalis to free butterfly.
Life is about changes and freedom is being where one feels he has to be to fullfill his role in the co-creation of the higher plan.
Feel the love and Know that this is unity at work and that we all stand in ONE world.
The world we live in now, is more than a sinking ship. I'm of the opinion the it's in the process of a great evolution. It's already happening, and you can see it clearly, even within our own societies over the last 200 years. Remember when women couldn't vote? That was a religious issue. Did you know that? Many died trying to keep women from voting, and felt it was their "moral duty" under God to keep men in charge. Whose rules do you think they were following?
When we achieved our first heart transplant, many were outraged about the spiritual implications of what was being done, believing that the spiritual soul of one person would be damaged due to receiving the heart of another. They opposed it, and felt the opposition was from God.

Nowadays, we smile in wonderment as we look at how our culture was back then. You have to ask, "What were we thinking?" Believe me, you'll do the same in another 25 years! What's happening today, belongs to today. It doesn't represent our internal divinity. It is still being evolved by means of those who ask to vibrate higher, and who then receive the wisdom. The wisdom is yours, and resides inside.
The ego keeps it from others who will some day wake up as well. And they will need our love the most....the ones we are in fear of need us the most.

This evolution will happen in every part of the world..not just some parts, and not for just some people.. And in the end as was promised to us when we came here, so many times before...it will be a paradise...we will experience love and unity..of the whole.... It is our destiny.

[BROOK]

I'll add..the problems we are facing right now are crated by EGO..the ego of the ones that feel the need for complete power.

The truth..there is more than enough food to go around to feed the hungry..and if we took all that money for Wars, and spent it on housing, we could shelter everyone.

You know that is the truth.

Several months ago I started a thread with Zeddo, about "Be the change you want to see"....our idea was to contact every peace organization in the world..and create a "strike"..to stop all war...because in truth..they need us to fight those wars.

THEY are of the very small minority..and they are somewhat afraid of the truth getting out...they are afraid of one thing in particular....LOVE
Because love will end it all. And their EGO'S will not be able to handle it.

It's all created by EGO..this scared fearful entity in us that creates all this chaos ...the day will come when we no longer need that ego to tell us what we already KNOW...it in our DNA...in every cell of our body.
So even if you don't meditate...sit quietly and repeat to yourself every day..."I know"...the more you do it the more will come..and soon you will know..... you won't need your EGO anymore.

Blessings
Brook

[runtofly]

I'll add..the problems we are facing right now are crated by EGO..the ego of the ones that feel the need for complete power.

Couldn't be any simpler. :thumb_yello:Thank you for your statements, and welcome back.

-Runtofly

[BROOK]

The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality.

Do not buy into what others are telling you -- even if those others are people in authority,
people who seem to have all the information and all the understanding and all the answers.

Embrace, instead, the desires of your heart, and make those your experience.

[BROOK]

Peace

is a term that most commonly refers to an absence of aggression, violence or hostility, but which also represents a larger concept wherein there are healthy or newly-healed interpersonal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpersonal_relationship) or international relationships (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_relations), safety in matters of social or economic welfare, the acknowledgment of equality and fairness in political relationships and, in world matters, peacetime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacetime); a state of being absent of any war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War) or conflict. Reflection on the nature of peace is also bound up with considerations of the causes for its absence or loss. Among these potential causes are: insecurity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercion), social injustice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_injustice), economic inequality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_inequality), political (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_radicalism) and religious radicalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_fundamentalism), and acute nationalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism).

This is the only thing to strive for...then we will achieve

Freedom

the absence of interference with the sovereignty of an individual by the use of coercion or aggression.

All it's going to take is removal of EGO from the powers that be....can it be done?....you tell me...because you KNOW

Know Freedom and Peace
http://msp261.photobucket.com/albums/ii73/MsOneLove/Peace/world.jpg

[mudra]

Coming from you Mudra, after the incident on your thread that is comforting.

The world we live in now, is more than a sinking ship. I'm of the opinion the it's in the process of a great evolution. It's already happening, and you can see it clearly, even within our own societies over the last 200 years. Remember when women couldn't vote? That was a religious issue. Did you know that? Many died trying to keep women from voting, and felt it was their "moral duty" under God to keep men in charge. Whose rules do you think they were following?
When we achieved our first heart transplant, many were outraged about the spiritual implications of what was being done, believing that the spiritual soul of one person would be damaged due to receiving the heart of another. They opposed it, and felt the opposition was from God.

Nowadays, we smile in wonderment as we look at how our culture was back then. You have to ask, "What were we thinking?" Believe me, you'll do the same in another 25 years! What's happening today, belongs to today. It doesn't represent our internal divinity. It is still being evolved by means of those who ask to vibrate higher, and who then receive the wisdom. The wisdom is yours, and resides inside.
The ego keeps it from others who will some day wake up as well. And they will need our love the most....the ones we are in fear of need us the most.

This evolution will happen in every part of the world..not just some parts, and not for just some people.. And in the end as was promised to us when we came here, so many times before...it will be a paradise...we will experience love and unity..of the whole.... It is our destiny.
I agree Brook ,

Whereever spirit is change can and is taking place. And spirit is everywhere.
The only place to be is in one's heart . Follow your heart's call and whereever it takes you'll be in the right place and the right time for you always.

Loving kindness
mudra

[BROOK]

I agree Brook ,

Whereever spirit is change can and is taking place. And spirit is everywhere.
The only place to be is in one's heart . Follow your heart's call and whereever it takes you'll be in the right place and the right time for you always.

Loving kindness
mudra

I agree...just don't let the heart be driven by the ego...it may want to scare the living daylights out of you by others who say they know the "Truth"...when in fact their truth is driven by their egos....what a web of deception the ego can weave....Just learn to
KNOW PEACE...and FREEDOM will follow
As I said..

The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality.

Do not buy into what others are telling you -- even if those others are people in authority,
people who seem to have all the information and all the understanding and all the answers.

Embrace, instead, the desires of your heart, and make those your experience.

Last edited by BROOK (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/posthistory.php?p=159364); Today at 11:20 AM.


http://www.solarnavigator.net/media/media_images/peace_dove_world_stained_glass.jpg

Knowing Peace.....from the Prophets

saying of Buddha

Hostility is never conquered by hostility in this world; hostility is conquered by love. That is the Eternal Law


Saying of Jesus Christ

He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything

[BROOK]

I agree, the actual meaning of ego is who you believe you are in this world. This guy has an ego, that guy has an ego? I think a while back people started confusing the words arrogance and ego and somehow ego got tagged as an appropriate adjective to describe arrogant people.

Am I arrogant? Depends on what side of the desk you are sitting on. If the observer of my style of communication does not agree with the message then the perception is that I am arrogant. However, if the observer agrees with the message then the perception is that I am valiant.

Do I spend any significant time worrying about which way the perceptions are going? No I do not. I learned a long time ago that focusing on how one is being judged by others is a complete waste of time and muddies the waters of intuition.

People should say what ever they feel they need to say. If it ruffles feathers than so be it. No one ever changed anything for the better by playing it safe and walking on egg shells all of the time.


With all due respect Tone...and I mean nothing harmful here..that is the ego talking.

Only the ego would be concerned with the idea of something being Valiant or Arrogant.

Only the ego would be concerned with perceptions.

Everyone should be able to voice their opinion. The concern lies in where it is coming from...is it being driven by the ego..or the true self.
Is it coming from a place of anger or fear? if it is, then my guess is it's coming from the ego.

By no means do I put myself above my own ego, as it has lashed out in anger before...I battle with it every day...the trouble lies in the Truth and Kowing within us...is that what we are conveying...or are we being driven by ego?

Here is an article on
Ego - The False Center

http://deoxy.org/egofalse.htm

It's very well written, and there are many others to check out. We could all use a good ego check..I admit I can

[BROOK]

Well..it's been nice to be back for this brief period...I have many things to do..one of them is going under the knife tomorrow..for a useless surgery..my doctors claim I need. However with all the healing energies sent my way by all of you..I really don't need this....and people at work are asking me where I'm getting all of this energy .

I just roll my eyes and say...from the Gods above...they are you...you are all Gods...part of the whole..and you sent me reeling with energy. To this day I'm still going strong.
When they put me out tomorrow....and I go under anaesthesia...I'm going to keep in my head one thing....."I know"
Don't know if it will work..but it's what I plan on doing

Bless you all again
Brook
http://www.meditationguidance.com/wp-content/themes/CustomTheme/images/meditating3.jpg

[rhythm]

Well..it's been nice to be back for this brief period...I have many things to do..one of them is going under the knife tomorrow..for a useless surgery..my doctors claim I need. However with all the healing energies sent my way by all of you..I really don't need this....and people at work are asking me where I'm getting all of this energy .

I just roll my eyes and say...from the Gods above...they are you...you are all Gods...part of the whole..and you sent me reeling with energy. To this day I'm still going strong.
When they put me out tomorrow....and I go under anaesthesia...I'm going to keep in my head one thing....."I know"
Don't know if it will work..but it's what I plan on doing

Bless you all again
Brook
http://www.meditationguidance.com/wp-content/themes/CustomTheme/images/meditating3.jpg


All be well with you dear Brook :wub2:
please let us have your news as and when you can
may as well have it removed ... it has no life left in it enyway right !!!
healing love to you ... rhythmmm ..:wub2:

[tone3jaguar]

What ever (referring to the view on ego, not your medical sugery)

[tone3jaguar]

We can not escape who we chose to be before we incarnated into this reality. We chose our "egos" before we where even born. This new age fluffy idea of giving up your personal identity because that is what has been deemed most acceptable by gurus is not something that I am willing to accept into my paradigm. If that is my big fat ego talking then so be it. It is really no different than someone pointing at another and saying "ego ego ego". The act of observing an individual having an "ego" is an act of the "ego". It is not escapable in this reality. As long as the individual is not being dishonest with them selves then they are on the right track. I will give up my version of who I am in this world the day I die and not a day sooner because it enables me to function and have focus.

[14 Chakras]

Brook, I like where you're going with this thread. I think you are getting to the heart of the issue. Keep up the great work! And know in your heart that tomorrow is going to go just fine for you! I do.

[14 Chakras]

Tone,

I think I get where you're coming from.

The ego is a tricky subject and a tricky devil you might say. It's difficult to talk about it, especially when pointing out someone else's ego, without it appearing we're coming from our own egos.

That being said, I personally see the strongest value in a community of those seeking higher truth, is to help each other overcome our own stuff. The main way we do that is by acting as mirrors for each other, we mirror back whatever illusions we have in our own energy fields, and then we have to deal with that.

Sometimes we do it by pointing out what appears to be coming from ego, personally I like that approach, but it's not easy to do it without our own egos getting in the way.. that's part of the adventure of overcoming the illusatory self so we can be reborn into our true divine identity that is a unique and beautiful individualization of the infinite consciousness.

I do indeed believe in life and light beyond duality and beyond the human ego and that is my personal path, to go all the way and demonstrate that life once I'm there and help others do the same.

As you said, your ego is who you think you are in this world. I believe our limited self view is the entire problem with this world in the first place. We believe we're something much less than we really are and by our own illusions of separation, we separate ourselves from the divine loving intelligence, and power, wisdom and love that is within us. The ego are the illusions separating us from who we really are, and we are much more than piddly human beings, or even advanced magis or something.

We each have a unique God flame and we're individualization's of God itSelf, here to express itSelf in the world of form. All the plots, plans and conspiracies of dark forces and alien technologies stand no chance against the body of God, which is us when we've surrendered the ego.

Jesus and Gautama demonstrated this path. Eckhart Tolle is teaching this path. And yes, I believe it is the Way to freedom that Jesus spoke of. The truth, is that we are more than the ego, and when we surrender our bowl of porridge (ego), we'll earn our crown, our divine birthright as Sons and daughters of the infinite. The dark forces will melt away when the light is shined upon them and a much better age will be made manifest, through us!

[mudra]

I agree...just don't let the heart be driven by the ego...it may want to scare the living daylights out of you by others who say they know the "Truth"...when in fact their truth is driven by their egos....what a web of deception the ego can weave....Just learn to
KNOW PEACE...and FREEDOM will follow
As I said..

[I]

Love does not want or fear anything.
Echkart Tolle

Loving kindness
mudra

[mudra]

Be well Brook

Peace in your heart and love always
mudra

[Wormhole]

Beautiful to hear you again Brook!

More quotes from E.Tolle:

"What is your relationship to the present moment?

What you resist persists.

Accept what "is" first, action from acceptance, not resistance.

How present you are defines your spirituality.

The ego overlooks the now.

People in the ego live as though the present moment is their enemy.

Ego constantly compares itself to others to find spirituality.

The ego is a false sense of self based in concepts people identify with.

Wanting keeps the ego alive more than having."


I keep these posted in my office to remind myself where I am and what is real. Thank you for this thread.

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

[dolphin]

We can not escape who we chose to be before we incarnated into this reality. We chose our "egos" before we where even born. This new age fluffy idea of giving up your personal identity because that is what has been deemed most acceptable by gurus is not something that I am willing to accept into my paradigm. If that is my big fat ego talking then so be it. It is really no different than someone pointing at another and saying "ego ego ego". The act of observing an individual having an "ego" is an act of the "ego". It is not escapable in this reality. As long as the individual is not being dishonest with them selves then they are on the right track. I will give up my version of who I am in this world the day I die and not a day sooner because it enables me to function and have focus.

tone3jaguar, i would have to agree... and by the way i like my ego. i don't want to be like everyone else. sitting on a mountaintop as a monk meditating all day, to me is not having much ego and doesn't sound like too much fun. i think we're here to explore our egos, the good, the bad, the ugly and inbetween. how else does the soul learn? we have oversouls and higher selves, and our egos.

everyone has their indivdual journey... as well as having everyone's own "truth"... truth is whatever perspective you perceive it to be. :original:some of this new age bit is overdone. don't you see, they want you to surrender you... your ego.

i'm an individual made of the whole (the creator)... and i am both me and creation itself.

[mudra]

i'm an individual made of the whole (the creator)... and i am both me and creation itself.
:thumb_yello: good point

loving kindness
mudra

[mudra]

The act of observing an individual having an "ego" is an act of the "ego". .. As long as the individual is not being dishonest with them selves then they are on the right track. I will give up my version of who I am in this world the day I die and not a day sooner because it enables me to function and have focus.

:thumb_yello: Good point too Tone.
I like your honesty about it .

Loving kindness
mudra

[rhythm]

she watches things as they come and go

the nature of things is to come and go

with or without her permission

so why not enjoy the show

its all so beautifull..

without something , what fun it is to be nothing ...
***********************
love the world as yourself
then you can care for all things ..
**************************

resistence to the what is

will be suffering .....:wall:

[mudra]

she watches things as they come and go

the nature of things is to come and go

with or without her permission

so why not enjoy the show

its all so beautifull..

without something , what fun it is to be nothing ...
***********************
love the world as yourself
then you can care for all things ..
**************************

resistence to the what is

will be suffering .....:wall:
You put it so beautifully dear ;)

loving kindness
mudra

[mudra]

I think there is nothing wrong in every one holding a truth of their own .
No matter where that truth comes from . I see it as an opportunity
to learn from it . It's all a matter of how you take it .
Knowing that one does'nt know is the humble way to take things .
This allows knowing to change and evolve.
Life is a game and nothing is so serious as to be defended or rejected with tooth and claws.
Within love you can find unity always and within challenge a dynamic to put understanding to.
Go with the flow .. embrace what comes with a smile .
And know that on this plane there will always be dichotomies .
This is what makes it interesting and fertile soil to grow and outgrow until one can encompass all that is.

Loving kindness
mudra

[BROOK]

just my 2cents (ego, tisk tisk)...i posted this on your other thread but would like to reiterate.

(btw, brook, you seem to preach alot, and that makes me a bit queasy. yes, i do believe meditation is a wonderful way to be. but posting a picture of you doing it, seems to me like your "ego" getting in the way).

tone3jaguar, i would have to agree... and by the way i like my ego. i don't want to be like everyone else. sitting on a mountaintop as a monk meditating all day, to me is not having much ego and doesn't sound like too much fun. i think we're here to explore our egos, the good, the bad, the ugly and inbetween. how else does the soul learn? we have oversouls and higher selves, and our egos.

everyone has their indivdual journey... as well as having everyone's own "truth"... truth is whatever perspective you perceive it to be. some of this new age bit is overdone. don't you see, they want you to surrender you... your ego.

i'm an individual made of the whole (the creator)... and i am both me and creation itself.


I do not advocate losing your ego..as we all need it for one very important thing right now in this 3D existence...that reason is:

Before we can love anybody or anything else..we must first love ourselves..for that we need ego.

I am however very concerned at the manipulation of the powers that be..because they have only one power over us.....OUR EGO...and that being said..as I said before...be careful not to be manipulated by your ego from the very thing that tries to control you....you are much more then your ego.

Dolphin...
Yes I do have an ego....but that picture is not of me..I only wish it was..I am a 55 year old woman...the picture was to represent the "heart center" in the sky above the young woman meditating...take another look at it...there is a heart in the sky...quite a lovely picture..but not me unfortunately.

I think 14Chakras said exactly what I was trying to convey in the other thread..I only hope she shares it here...and it's not been more then half an hour ago that I got out of surgery..so I must get some sleep now...I just want you to know I was not trying to in any way say lose your ego..just don't let it be manipulated, by so called whistleblowers, and the powers that be..they play on your ego every time....that is their only power over you.
Am I preaching? Sorry...it's a passion for me to convey my concerns

[14 Chakras]

To love yourself, you must simply know your Self.

Your true Self is made of unconditional love. It pours out of you, around you, you are that love, and the power and wisdom behind it.

Your human ego is what blocks the love from your true Self. It seeks love outside of itself, and therefore, will never find true unconditional love for itself, or for others. Because unconditional love can only come from within.

Unconditional love comes from beyond the human ego, it comes from the sun of your Being.

Expose the illusions of the human Ego and you are Love made manifest.

[BROOK]

To love yourself, you must simply know your Self.

Your true Self is made of unconditional love. It pours out of you, around you, you are that love, and the power and wisdom behind it.

Your human ego is what blocks the love from your true Self. It seeks love outside of itself, and therefore, will never find true unconditional love for itself, or for others. Because unconditional love can only come from within.

Unconditional love comes from beyond the human ego, it comes from the sun of your Being.

Expose the illusions of the human Ego and you are Love made manifest.

Wonderfully said!

[mudra]

To See

To see, to really see,
you must take off your head
and put it well aside, friends.

Open the eyes of your heart instead.
Open the ears of your soul
and ride on the river of light
that glows along: a constant caterpillar
leading you back home
to where you came from and have forgotten.


Your eyes see not into the nature of things.
They see the diver, but not the dive,
they see the winding smoke, but not the fire burning inside,
they see only the road before them, and not the moon sailing beside.
Rather you gouge them out than stay blind
to true vision which resides only in the chest,
beating, and pounding.
Why do you think the heart beats?
To call your attention, so wandering,
back to it.


Come home then, come home.
You can ride the big stream of heart.


Let the spirit rise out of you like steam,
like a snake uncoling, like a dreamer stepping into the dream.
The flowers are watered then with your tears,
the wounds are healed with your lips,
and pain is found out in everyones' hearts
and purged away to the lake, the sea, the ocean,
where it drowns in the cleansing waters.


Wash your ego from your self,
and step out of your skin
which is battle-worn and bruised from abuse.
Come swim in the golden waters of this pond,
naked, wearing only your spirit.


It's warm here like luminous oil massaging you.
There are morning doves and orchids at night
and in the day, there is rest and the stars.


The trees sing you lullabies
in harmony with the breeze
and the moon sometimes eclipses the sun.
You always have playmates--
ones who cry and laugh at once,
reveling in the irony, the paradox of the universe.
They work to stop suffering,
but their pain and their joy become one here
--pain a vine winding around the tree of joy,
and all explode together in green
where branches touch the sky.

We are one in the heart..we are two in the mind

Loving kindness
mudra

[BROOK]

Knowing


You have the ability to know everything there is to know.
That is what your brain was designed For, so that spirit
living on a physical plane in a physical body could
experience and understand whatever dimension of spirit
he desired, seen through three-dimensional forms.


Why is knowledge important? It is your grandest treasure,
for when all else has been taken from you, what has not been
taken from you and never can be is the knowledge that gives you
the ability to create again. When you have knowledge, you have
freedom; you have options. When you have knowledge, you can
build kingdoms unlimited. When you have knowledge, there is
nothing to fear, for then there is no thing, no element, no
principality, no understanding that can ever threaten or enslave
or intimidate you. When fear is given knowledge, it is called
enlightenment.

Knowledge allows your mind to reason and contemplate
beyond what you already know. It permits you to see further into
the knowingness of all things that are and to grow in your capacity
to receive even greater knowledge. Knowledge urges you to expand
yourself, to seek an ever-broadening identity, to become. In that,
it takes you from the boundaries of a limited life into a more
unlimited expanse. Through knowledge and the adventure into
learning, you become heightened in simplicity, and in that
simplicity will you find peace in being and the joy of life.

From The White Book
Ramtha

[BROOK]

Lovely poem Mudra!

[mudra]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/135823449_ebc609c3a4.jpg?v=0

Loving kindness
mudra

[Tango]

Mudra....

Girl, You are trooly "brillant." WoW...


Tango


[I]To See

To see, to really see,
you must take off your head
and put it well aside, friends.

Open the eyes of your heart instead.
Open the ears of your soul
...

[BROOK]

The Altered Ego

Now what is the altered ego? It is the understanding gained
from the human experience that is stored in the soul and
articulated through the reasoning portions of the brain. It is
the collective attitudes of man living merely as a surviving
creature, living in the shadow of social consciousness. And that
collective view will refuse to accept any thought frequency that
does not fit within its security, that does not help to insure the
survival of the entity. The altered ego is the refusal to allow all
thoughts to be received and entertained for a greater realization
within the embodiment.

Ramtha

[BROOK]

Freedom in Knowing

You have the ability to know everything there is to know.
That is what your brain was designed for, so that a spirit living on
a physical plane in a physical body could experience and
understand whatever dimension of spirit he desired, seen through
three-dimensional forms. Whatever thoughts you allow yourself
to know through your wonderful receiver will become an
experienced reality, seen first within your embodiment and then
through the conditions of your life. And whatever you desire,
you have the ability - through knowing - to manifest into your
life in the twinkling of an eye. That is how you create the kingdom
of heaven on Earth.

Ramtha
http://www.wayfaring.info/images/lake_toba_indonesia_aerial.jpg

[Northern Boy]

Good points made Brook. I`m not a big Tolle fan but I will say this there are times when a persons Ego can cause his head to swell and his eyes to shut and it does cause them to miss what is in plain site

[BROOK]

Thank you Northernboy...but this is not only about Tolle....it's everywhere I look.... Example:

Taoist Ethics

Selflessness

One thing basic to the Taoist belief is a redefinition of "self" or "ego." Taoists believe that the way we try to stand outside ourselves in the attempt of self-observation is the source of most, if not all, of our unhappiness and loneliness, simply because in order to observe as such, we must see our "self" as separate from other "selves." This creates many unnecessary and troublesome illusions, and is based on an untrue assumption: that organisms are mutually exclusive. For a good argument against this assumption, as well as some of the negative affects of the illusions it creates, it is recommended that you read The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are by Alan Watts.
The goal of Taoism isn't to obliterate the ego, simply because this isn't possible. In order to stop ourselves from seeing ourselves as separate, we must see ourselves as separate, which creates a never-ending paradox. The goal instead is to keep our attention on the greater whole, the process to which there is a pattern, which is known to always return the source. The Tao is infinite, eternal. Why is it eternal? It was never born; thus it can never die. Why is it infinite? It has no desires for itself; thus it is present for all beings. The Master stays behind; that is why she is ahead. She is detached from all things; that is why she is one with them. Because she has let go of herself, she is perfectly fulfilled.


(http://www.taoism.net/articles/mason/ethics.htm)
Source: http://www.taoism.net/articles/mason/ethics.htm

http://www.personaltao.com/tao/images%5CTaoist_Priest.jpg

[14 Chakras]

Mudra, beautiful poetry. Thank you for shining the sun of your Beingness, keep it bright so we can bask in the rays.

[14 Chakras]

Brook, thank you for sharing.

I like the idea of knowing, knowing the truth that will set us free...

for me true knowing, comes from Being... it's not a matter of mind knowledge, it's a matter of achieving unity with the higher consciousness that is inside, I and my father are one.

When we are Being, we're coming from that higher place, we're storing up the treasures in heaven because we're multiplying our light, our talents are being multiplied.

When we're Being, we're beyond thinking, we're in the Now, we're letting the consciousness within be the doer.

To Be, or not to Be, that is the question.

I agree it is impossible to 'obliterate' the ego... however, it is very possible to transmute it. That's what divine alchemy is all about. Turning the base metal of the human ego into the Gold of the I AM within. Being reborn into our higher identity as Jesus described. The Phoenix symbolizes this rebirth, and it will happen in us when we are ready...

The caterpillar will turn into the butterfly.

[14 Chakras]

Thanks to all who contribute on these threads. All contributions are valuable. I personally appreciate. Together we are seeking and finding and becoming More.
:thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

Thanks to all who contribute on these threads. All contributions are valuable. I personally appreciate. Together we are seeking and finding and becoming More.
:thumb_yello:
You can say that again :thumb_yello: This is pretty important information on the path to enlightenment. And thank you for your contributions:wub2:

[orthodoxymoron]

Brook: The first post was a great one!

One can live in the city...or close to the city...and still focus on nature. We need to bring more nature and love into the cities...and we can't do this if we are hiding in safe places. If things really go downhill...there may be no place to hide anyway. I have no plans to run away. I'll go down with the ship.

The Sigmund Freud quote was priceless:

"Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud

I keep repeating the 'Responsible Freedom' mantra...over and over again. Constitutional Responsible Freedom will break the back of the New World Order.

Pride and arrogance are bad things. Recognizing the divinity in all of us is a good thing. I try to see Christ in all persons.

Namaste

[rhythm]

Please can i just say that im not sure that its
a case of running to safe places (maby for some. and thats ok too)
for me MOST certainly not the case...
im already in the safest place my heart ...
and for me a community life woul be one of sharing love respecting the earth,
and friendship ... also to show that we can be out of the system ... if thats what you want ... but if thats not what you want fine ... but can we please put a line under ... making it a wrong .. its realy getting so boring
live and let live my dear friends ... would you rather be right or happy ..
our opinons are fine and we are as the old saying goes intiteld to them ..
but do we then need to insist that we are right and the other is wrong
dear friends we know by now how wars start ,,, right -wrong ....
love and blessings in service to the one rhythmmm ...:wub2:
let love .................................................. ......................................

[mudra]

live and let live my dear friends ....

:thumb_yello:

Love
mudra

[orthodoxymoron]

Please can i just say that im not sure that its
a case of running to safe places (maby for some. and thats ok too)
for me MOST certainly not the case...
im already in the safest place my heart ...
and for me a community life woul be one of sharing love respecting the earth,
and friendship ... also to show that we can be out of the system ... if thats what you want ... but if thats not what you want fine ... but can we please put a line under ... making it a wrong .. its realy getting so boring
live and let live my dear friends ... would you rather be right or happy ..
our opinons are fine and we are as the old saying goes intiteld to them ..
but do we then need to insist that we are right and the other is wrong
dear friends we know by now how wars start ,,, right -wrong ....
love and blessings in service to the one rhythmmm ...:wub2:
let love .................................................. ......................................

Does your comment not imply that my comment was wrong? I merely expressed my plans and feelings. Are you implying that you are right and I am wrong? If so...I'm ok with that. I am making no stipulations that we should refrain from considering various opinions and views as being right or wrong.

[BROOK]

It's all about KNOWING and FREEDOM...the title of the thread

So lets explore FREEDOM

Freedom and Responsibility

Freedom, from an existential perspective, cannot be separated from responsibility. With freedom comes responsibility. Yet, it is common for many people to seek freedom while trying to avoid responsibility. While, at times, it appears that people may be able to succeed at this, there remains a psychological consequence. This consequence is often not very noticeable, but may find expression through guilt, anxiety, depression, or even anger.

Existential freedom is not the same things as freedom in the political sense we often think of it in America. In fact, political freedom could be view to be a rather shallow, though not unimportant, type of freedom. A person can be existentially free despite not being politically free, and a person can avoid embracing their existential freedom despite being offered great political freedoms.


Ways of Avoiding Responsibility

There are several common examples of how people avoid responsibility in American culture. Conformity is one good example. Americans pride themselves on being autonomous individuals to the point of idealizing individualism. However, upon closer analysis, Americans find extremely creative ways of giving up their freedom. Americans conform through blind allegiance to various organizations and institutions including political parties and religious institutions. This is not to say that being dedicated to either of these are bad. In fact, often they can lead to very positive outcomes. The problem comes with blind allegiance where a person gives up their responsibility to critically think through the beliefs, perspectives, and values of the organization. When this happens, the individual's values are no longer authentic.

When a person gives their allegiance to an external belief structure, they may go in one of several directions. First, they often will become very rigid in their allegiance to the organization or structure to which they have committed. This type of conformity can be seen through various forms of fundamentalism -- religious, political, psychological systems, etc.

Second, they may present as being very committed to a belief systems or organization, but they feel very comfortable bending the rules where it does fit their desires. It becomes easy to bend the rules because they are not really committed to the underlying values system. However, when a person is deeply committed to authentic moral or value principles, they are less willing to act in ways which contradict these principles. The principles are authentic.

Another way avoid responsibility can occur through the belief that one is powerless. There can be many factors which are seen to render a person powerless. A person can perceive themselves as a victim of their environment, of various supernatural or spiritual forces, their unconscious, or a victim of their biology/genes. While an existential approach will recognize that all of these factors may influence a person, none of them render a person powerless or completely control them.

source:http://www.existential-therapy.com/Special_Topics/Freedom_and_Responsibility.htm

[rhythm]

my comment is aimed at no one xxxx

[BROOK]

As choice and Freedom come to mind so do these quotes:

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined. As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler.


I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestioned ability of a man to elevate his life by conscious endeavor.

Henry David Thoreau (http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Henry_David_Thoreau/)
http://theotherpages.org/random/qri-14a.jpg

[BROOK]

Freedom and Knowing and self-cultivation


Laozi, also known Lao-tzu, is considered the founder of Taoism.


The wisdom of life, cosmology, to ontology. People are supposed to learn the wisdom of life in general, Laozi theorizes, and he brings forward philosophical ideas on politics, sociology, and interpersonal relationships. Yet the focus is not on the creation of civilization, but rather on self-cultivation. Laozi's thoughts are basically social philosophy and theories based on Dao, but he is not interested in creating a new and ideal society, because that is not the way of the Dao.

http://fortunaty.net/com/sacred-texts/tao/yinyang.jpg

[BROOK]

Friedrich Nietzsche on Freedom and Responsibility

listen carefully ...he brings up Ego :naughty:

YouTube - Friedrich Nietzsche on Freedom and Responsibility (Audio)

At the end he equates Passion to existence....I equate Passion to emotion...and here is something I found:

What is the greatest way to manifest any desire? By speaking
it forth from the spirit of your being. The spirit of your being,
which is your soul, governs your body through its emotional
structure.

How will you describe the feeling of unlimited thoughts?
You cannot. The knowingness of an unlimited thought has no
word that you can associate with it because it is a new thought
being experienced, a new emotion, an immense feeling that moves
you in a profound yet quiet manner. Knowingness will come to
you as pure feeling: unannounced, unidentified, nameless emotion.

Most who seek enlightenment think that it will come in the
form of words. But if what you understand can be described by
words, you have felt it all before. If it can't, and you are simply
feeling, what you are feeling is genius; it is brilliance; it is indeed
unlimited thinking. All the things you have wanted to understand
do not have words; they have emotion and vision. And when the
knowingness comes, you will be speechless with feelings.

[BROOK]

Control and Freedom


Ajahn Brahm' talks about the control/freedom paradox. How much of our lives is *actually* controlled by us, how much by forces outside ourselves? How free are we? The relinquishment of our controlling impulse brings freedom, while the ego, with its judgement apparatus, leads to bondage and despair.

YouTube - Control and Freedom

This is long but well worth it!

[BROOK]

The art of limiting thought is associating words with it. A
master explains nothing; he only knows it. To explain it means he must limit himself.
When you get to the point that you simply
know - without having to justify or explain your
knowingness - then you are indeed the master of your kingdom.

Ramtha...the White Book

http://www.awakening-healing.com/images/Symbols/folwithbutterflies.jpg

[BROOK]

dear friends we know by now how wars start ,,, right -wrong ....
love and blessings in service to the one rhythmmm ...


Why do wars start:

This is grossly oversimplified, but it's basically not much different than robbery. That other country has something we want, let's take it away from them. The "something" can be land, resources, people (to convert to a different religion, for work, etc). The "something" can also be power, if the war-starting country perceives "the other guys" to be powerful, and decides to take them out before they get too powerful. Take a big dose of greed, add in a few dashes of fear, and season with a disregard for human life, and you get the recipe for war.


Know Peace and Freedom
http://www.solarnavigator.net/media/media_images/peace_dove_world_stained_glass.jpg

[mudra]

John Lennon is one of these beings that understood that Love is our freedom . The story of his life is sadly a touching one .
People of his generation fought to give Love a right to express itself. I believe they opened a breach in the solid wall of separeteness.

Today time for fighting is over ..I feel we have moved a step beyond and that what we have to do.. is remember that we are Love ..that Love is our essence. Love is the unifying factor that transcends dichotomies.

Despite the strangeness of events that we are finding ourselves into on this plane Love always finds a way to step into our lives .

And finally if you look closely into it ..the moments that really count .. that have any meaning and value are those when we can share it.

Maybe that the only single reason to live.. is to Love.

Love is real...Love is freedom in it's highest level for it sees no bounderies.
When you know Love you have come home.

YouTube - Love - John Lennon

[BROOK]

Love is real...Love is freedom in it's highest level for it sees no bounderies.
When you know Love you have come home.
So true Mudra

Many hearts have been broken by social consciousness and ego

Heal the heart...through Knowing

Know Love

YouTube - Let Me Heal Your Heart

[mudra]

[COLOR=DarkOrchid][I][B]Know Love

YouTube - Let Me Heal Your Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w22ofyYzG2g)

:thumb_yello:

Love from me
mudra

[BROOK]

Knowing = Love

The truth is, all things are already yours, love will be made manifest. When you know
they are, then they are made available to you. You must understand
that the principal giver of all that you need is you and your ability
to receive love. The way to receive your desires is simply
to know what you want and know you are worthy of getting it.

Knowingness is the truth; it is the giver of all, the giver of love; it is your future

Knowing opens the door to that realization.
It activates another part of your brain so the thought can become
a manifested reality. Then when the experience of your unlimited
thinking has indeed come to pass, that solidifies in the ego part
of your brain the realization that knowing does work,
which gives you the strength to go a step further into even more
unlimited thinking. Unlimited Love....Unlimited freedom

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Bleeding_hearts.jpg

[BROOK]

Knowing Love is not always easy

Knowing Love is not always easy, when confronted by manipulated social consciousness, and ego.
For some it is the hardest thing to find.

This is how a child grows. First he becomes aware of you, then by and by, he becomes aware of himself. This awareness is a reflected awareness. He is not aware of who he is. He is simply aware of the mother and what she thinks about him. If she smiles, if she appreciates the child, if she says, "You are beautiful," if she hugs and kisses him, the child feels good about himself. Now an ego is born. Through appreciation, love, care, he feels he is good, he feels he is valuable, he feels he has some significance. A center is born.


But this center is a reflected center. It is not his real being. He does not know who he is; he simply knows what others think about him. And this is the ego: the reflection, what others think. If nobody thinks that he is of any use, nobody appreciates him, nobody smiles, then too an ego is born: an ill ego; sad, rejected, like a wound; feeling inferior, worthless. This too is the ego. This too is a reflection.

Ego is a need; it is a social need, it is a social by-product. The society means all that is around you - not you, but all that is around you. All, minus you, is the society. And everybody reflects. You will go to school and the teacher will reflect who you are. You will be in friendship with other children and they will reflect who you are. By and by, everybody is adding to your ego, and everybody is trying to modify it in such a way that you don't become a problem to the society.

Excerpts from: http://deoxy.org/egofalse.htm

[Karen]

Knowing Love is not always easy

Knowing Love is not always easy, when confronted by manipulated social consciousness, and ego. For some it is the hardest thing to find.

This is how a child grows. First he becomes aware of you, then by and by, he becomes aware of himself.[COLOR=Cyan][I][B]

Wow Brook, that purple color is so much easier to read in minty than the aqua color - would you consider changing to use purple most of the time?

[BROOK]

Which brings us back to EGO..and Ultimate Reality

More and more people the world over have noticed changes occurring at all levels, ranging from increasingly extreme weather conditions and other geophysical phenomena, to a much more subtle, individual level of conscious awareness. Irrespective of the nature, range and magnitude of these changes, most would agree that they are indeed occurring, are unprecedented in recorded human history, and herald a much more profound event or series of events on the horizon.


Mudra has a great thread on the Secret Life of Plants

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14664

http://livingearth.co.za/images/hands_in_compost.jpg


We are all blessed to be living on Earth during a great transition with the potential to take humans, all organic and mineral life and Earth Herself to the next stage along the path evolution on the great path of return to our Divine Creator from whence we came in the beginning, a transition from one great era of evolution to a new greater era of evolution for humanity, all life on Earth and Earth Herself.
The earth is evolving, and we are evolving

http://defencedebates.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/children-playing.jpg


The social consciousness is changing as well...things always get worst before they get better.....don't let the truth of Ultimate Reality be blinded by the fears of the PTB...don't let their ego based greed get the better of your knowing...they are running very scared right now...they are rushing for the game of the millenium..to keep us from knowing the truth, and how simple it is that we create...we don"t need anything but the power of ultimate knowingness....
then will come truth, freedom and love


http://smgitsshowtime.com/images/286_Valentine_s_Heart_in_Red_Sky_02-11-08.jpg

Blessings to all
Brook

[THE eXchanger]

we don"t need anything but the power of ultimate knowingness....then will come truth, freedom and love


the highest eXpression of truth
is love, weaved with integrity --
those who choose to do that, are FREE !!!

[14 Chakras]

I think this thread started out great. It has veered off into the new age, all you need is love direction.

Love when it is not balanced with power and wisdom, is unenlightened human love that will not change the world. True love is unconditional and it pushes all of creation to become More. We're not to sit idly by and watch as the world becomes lovely. We're here to co-create that better world. We need to balance power and wisdom with love in order to do that.

Being = Love



Then when the experience of your unlimited
thinking has indeed come to pass, that solidifies in the ego part
of your brain the realization that knowing does work,
which gives you the strength to go a step further into even more
unlimited thinking.



Anything that is solidifying your ego, is not going to lead to unlimited anything... other than continued unlimited suffering...

It is not the egos of the power elite that are the problem of our world, as much as it is our own egos that are the problem with our own experiences.

The world outside is a reflection of the individual and collective inner state of our consciousness. As long as we believe we are the thinker, and we are solidifying our thinking, this shift the earth is going to go through will involve many birth pains indeed. We must awaken to our divine reality beyond thought, beyond the ego.

We can say love all we want, the new age movement has been doing just that for decades, and it has not born good fruit in terms of reshaping our world. Until we walk through the darkness we will never get to the light.

We must surrender our own ego illusions, surrender being the doer, surrender to the higher consciousness within. Not my will, but thine be done.

Because from an enlightened perspective, I'm well aware that the higher will is my own will. It is only my ego that thinks it needs to make decisions on it's own and attract what "I want". Only to find that when I have it, I need something else and in the mean time I'm creating all sorts of karma acting from my unenlightened perspective.

The ego is a black hole of desire because it tricks us into thinking something outside of us will fill the void inside. This seeking outside of us leads to endless cycles of birth and death and suffering. The truth is that we are not the ego. Until we are reborn into the higher consciousness that is always in the Now, as Jesus continually stressed, then we are the caterpillar, the walking dead repeating the same lifetimes and mistakes over and over...

The only possible way out of suffering, the only possible way to the kingdom of heaven, is through the surrender of the ego. The ego is the ultimate deception and deceiver. It is the devil inside. We don't overcome it by fighting it, we transmute it by observing it, and sending it love, whilst continually surrendering our own illusions and darkness. The transmutation turns our ego consciousness into the Gold of the divine Being we really are.

The ideal is to do this while we are in embodiment, this is what we came to earth to do, to express our divine individuality and raise it up. If we refuse, cycles pass us by along with cosmic opportunities. Often, we can ascend after the embodiment is over, but without the true victory of adding our own divine light to this planet in the material realm. Many are called, few choose. The true Way, the way to victory, is the way of overcoming the ego.

Knowing you are not the ego is the key, and when you know that and overcome the illusion that you are it, you will Be. You will be free.

[orthodoxymoron]

The posts on this thread are fantastic!

WAR = DESTRUCTIVE COMPETITION.

Greed, Fear, Annoyance, etc...reaches a stage where Constructive Competition morphs into Destructive Competition...and the killing commences.

The morphology of this transitional stage would be a most interesting study.

[BROOK]

My intention was to stay with Knowing and Freedom..then I got steered into the "LOVE" theme...I stopped and thought and this is what I came up with...

Through unlimited knowing or knowing all that is....through not words but feeling and emotion...you become all that is, part of the all that is.
In doing so you become unconditional love...so I ran with it..but I also pointed out that many cannot experience it due to social consciousness and EGO.....

Ego is the antichrist....it creates all darkness around....and once removed..walla...Light...knowing...all that is...unconditional love

But in agreeing..it is not where this thread was supposed to go :original:

[14 Chakras]

Great post, yes agreed :).

I just thought I'd sound a bit dramatic with my opening there...

[BROOK]

Henry David Thoreau
Lived in the wood secluded for two year and two months..
to reflect...wrote the book Walden or life in the woods.

He separated from society to reflect and wrote some of the greatest philosophy ...alone in the woods.

Away from social consciousness....The higher frequency thoughts can be more easily
experienced in the consciousness of the wilderness away from
the stagnated thinking of man, because there life is simple,
and in complete harmony with itself.
There, away from the judgment of man, you can hear your own knowingness.
Your brain is a receiver of electrical thought
frequencies, with different parts designed to receive, house, and
amplify the different frequencies of thought.
Your brain does not create thought,
It simply allows thought to enter into it from consciousness.

Each thought frequency that the altered ego allows to flow
into the brain is transferred into an electrical current and sent to
that portion of the brain that has been activated by the pituitary
to house that frequency. That portion of the brain then amplifies
the current and sends it to the pineal system.

What keeps you from knowing and becoming the totality
of God? Altered ego, because altered ego cuts God off by refusing
to accept all the thought frequencies that God is so it can live
safe and secure, out of harm's way. That is why the altered ego is
indeed what is termed the Antichrist, because it denies that you
are the son of God. It does not allow you to accept the thought
and to realize that you and the Father are one and the same, that
you are the divine and immortal principle that has the power to
create forever .
The Antichrist is the altered ego and its kingdom is social
consciousness. It is that which does not allow unlimited thought;
and its dogma is fear, judgment, and survival. The Christ is man
wholly expressing the power, the beauty, the love, and unlimited
life of the Father that lives within him. It is man realizing that he
is divine and becoming that realization, transcending dogma,
prophesy, and fear, for he knows that beyond social consciousness
lies the unlimited vigor called God.

some excerpts from Ramtha

[burgundia]

The more you know, the wiser you are....the more you can love....

[mudra]

On The Eventual Awakening Of One That Is Not Yet Awake

Every two or three weeks, i awake in the 
middle of the night—4:10 a.m.—looking out 
our weak view windows, thinking of everything 
i have yet to give you. and there’s so much
that i am uninterested in passing on. but of 
these i am clear: hope, finding the beautiful
in an ordinary rain puddle, the restorative
powers of song and guitar, believing in 
what you can create: as Miller said,
finding & following your own criterion of truth.
Knowing both seagulls and pigeons to be
playful and fun. Slowing down more
often than your familial genus may 
predetermine. getting away, getting off
the grid, getting high atop a mountain
others are too busy to climb. Be enamored
with your thoughts — with your own genius
in the family of history. and there is plenty
to mention that we should not mention 
but of these i am clear: commit. Promise to yourself only those 
 moments that actually 
matter for these are made of Love.


Loving kindness
mudra

[NorthernSanctuary]

Brook:..however I had a huge problem with taking the energy you possess to a centralized spot to isolate from the world.
...They are nothing different then you or I..they are humans, seeking TRUTH and KNOWING.

The issue of RZ communities is independent of seeking TRUTH and KNOWING. There are people that seek TRUTH and KNOWING within and outside the communities.

The effort to create RZs is motivated by the desire to realize a vision of a better society in the world. While the energy to do that is substantial, it is probably much less than the total expended in the present chaotic turmoil that you see in the existing society. Everything goes in cycles, and it is important to recognize the end of a cycle and the starting of another one. By this is meant that there comes a time when the proper response is to focus on creating something new "from scratch" as opposed to patching the old. It may be sad to recognize the existing society/civilization is coming to an end, but that is the truth. The challenge to create a new one in a better image is substantial, but it needs to be done, just as it was done more than 200 years ago in North America, when pioneers create new communities which eventually became the USA.

It is because of the substantial energy and challenge to build a new society that people of like mind must come together to take this effort that is the basis for the creation of RZs. These are the nucleus of what will hopefully be the new centers, or what you may call cities for lack of a better term, for the new world society, one based on TRUTH and KNOWING of the self as a spiritual being. A society integrating science and spirituality.

This in no way takes away anything from anyone that feels that their purpose is to remain in the existing cities to help out. Neither perspective excludes the value of the other. There is plenty of work to go around for all.

[NorthernSanctuary]

Brook:The wisdom of life, cosmology, to ontology. People are supposed to learn the wisdom of life in general, Laozi theorizes, and he brings forward philosophical ideas on politics, sociology, and interpersonal relationships. Yet the focus is not on the creation of civilization, but rather on self-cultivation. Laozi's thoughts are basically social philosophy and theories based on Dao, but he is not interested in creating a new and ideal society, because that is not the way of the Dao.

The focus is on self-cultivation because a society can only be as evolved as the individuals of that society; the society can only be a reflection of its parts, which is the individual. Laozi did not exclude the existence or the value of society, but clearly the important part is the development of the individual. If the individuals are evolved, the society automatically becomes ideal. If we are on a path to evolve back to the source, then clearly the value of learning to co-operate and work together as a group is very important, because when everyone is merged back to the source, the "breathing room" might just get a bit tighter compare to what we are use to. This is why the challenge, when we evolve to the next level, is to learn to work together.. and it is also the present challenge for like-minded individuals at our present level.

[orthodoxymoron]

On The Eventual Awakening Of One That Is Not Yet Awake

Every two or three weeks, i awake in the 
middle of the night—4:10 a.m.—looking out 
our weak view windows, thinking of everything 
i have yet to give you. and there’s so much
that i am uninterested in passing on. but of 
these i am clear: hope, finding the beautiful
in an ordinary rain puddle, the restorative
powers of song and guitar, believing in 
what you can create: as Miller said,
finding & following your own criterion of truth.
Knowing both seagulls and pigeons to be
playful and fun. Slowing down more
often than your familial genus may 
predetermine. getting away, getting off
the grid, getting high atop a mountain
others are too busy to climb. Be enamored
with your thoughts — with your own genius
in the family of history. and there is plenty
to mention that we should not mention 
but of these i am clear: commit. Promise to yourself only those 
 moments that actually 
matter for these are made of Love.


Loving kindness
mudra

I really liked what you wrote here. I'd like to see us get rid of 90% of the technology and industrialization...get back to nature...and s-l-o-w d-o-w-n. I like Earth and humanity...but I don't like what I see when I read the paper. We seem to be destroying ourselves in a very sophisticated manner. Living in a small house in a natural setting...with no car...and having a computer with fast internet...seems ideal to me. I haven't gotten rid of the car...but I'm getting very close.

[mudra]

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It is because of the substantial energy and challenge to build a new society that people of like mind must come together to take this effort that is the basis for the creation of RZs. These are the nucleus of what will hopefully be the new centers, or what you may call cities for lack of a better term, for the new world society, one based on TRUTH and KNOWING of the self as a spiritual being. A society integrating science and spirituality.

This in no way takes away anything from anyone that feels that their purpose is to remain in the existing cities to help out. Neither perspective excludes the value of the other. There is plenty of work to go around for all.

I agree with you that although it's of each individual 's responsability to raise himself up as a conscious being working as a team of like minded people focusing on the same purpose will create a greater impact than to work by own's own. If we consider it a desirable thing for the society to change and progress than we must be open enough to accept these changes that take place within her and be a motor of these changes. It's is not a matter of throwing away the society at large but rather to reflect on it , draw conclusions from experience and give it a new stirr .We have arrived at that marvellous point in time where a conscious choice can be made to live anew would we want to . The current society has evolved to a point of introducing so much pressure in our individual lives that we tend to forget who we really are and what we are here for . What is so special about these current times is that despite the burden we carry on our shoulders awakening is taking place . Imagine there was a city where people would eat organic food everyday, where children would be raised with a good sense of spiriituality and wisdom , where you could work less and have more time to share with your relatives and friends, where there was no criminality and people from the youngest to the oldest could live harmoniously with each other in respect of mother earth and all living things .. where would you go ? These " cities " can be build and then one can become two and so on until the entire earth is a decent place to live in. In the same way as one radiant individual is of benefit to his immediate surroundings, one radiant community will be of benefit to a much wider spectrum.
I may not come back here after this incarnation but I would love to leave behind me the premises of a better world for those who follow me to live into .

Loving kindness
mudra

[14 Chakras]

Mudra quote: "Imagine there was a city where people would eat organic food everyday, where children would be raised with a good sense of spiriituality and wisdom , where you could work less and have more time to share with your relatives and friends, where there was no criminality and people from the youngest to the oldest could live harmoniously with each other in respect of mother earth and all living things .. where would you go ?"

This is a wonderful vision Mudra. It is worthwhile contemplating how one might achieve it.

Are there any cities in the world that meet this vision? I cannot think of any. Have others set out to create utopia on earth before? I would guess in our history, many have done so. Why hasn't it worked?

Perhaps the problem is that here, in this lower level of consciousness we are trapped in, the human ego, it is not possible to create a utopia like the one you've described. You can't solve a problem from the same level of consciousness that created the problem in the first place. The collective consciousness on planet earth right now is focused on the separate self. It's all about comparisons to others, and it results in conflict. The fruit of the ego consciousness is conflict and suffering.

Will this change if we say, no ego in this city, just love? I don't think so. How would the laws in this land be enforced? If we say only organic food and no crime, how would we enforce that? If someone brings in non-organic food what do you do? Do you ban them? If someone steals from another what do you do? Do you throw them out of their house? What about their families?

We must change the inner to change the outer.

Throughout our recorded history, empires have come and gone, political philosophies, economic philosophies, academic philosophies, many with the ultimate goal to create the perfect state to erase the human suffering and create the utopia on earth. They have all failed.

It doesn't matter how many rules we make, or contracts we create or idealistic pledges we made, there will never be a utopian society manifest here until we deal with the cause and core of the problem in the first place.

I suggest the cause and core is first and foremost, our own ego illusions. And second, the fact that we have wolves in sheeps clothing in this world who will come in and destroy, or do their best to destroy, any idealistic group or society that is born.

There are all sorts of energies playing out at finer vibrations that result in the suffering that happens here. Even at Avalon / Camelot, a lot of conflict erupts, even with the interviewers and their witnesses. Until we learn how to protect ourselves from negative energies and influences, including the influence of our own egos, I do not believe a utopic society is possible. First change the inner, then the outer will reflect the change...

What do you think?

[BROOK]

This thread is about the title....Knowing and Freedom

With that being said...it is about "self-cultivation"..about tapping into unlimited knowing , about Freedom and responsibility...about letting go of the ego driven machine.

It is not about radiant zones..as radiant zones will create their own social consciousness, and structure....I bless your radiant zones..may they be built on Knowing and Freedom...may they not be built for the sole purpose of running from the fear of the PTB...may they not be built based on a whistleblower telling you you must run because the SHTF.

If you are building them thinking they will be the only future of mankind....that is because someone has made you think that....that will not be the case.

The evolution of mankind is going to happen all over the word...for ALL mankind..not just those chosen ones in radiant zones.

This thread is about KNOWING, and FREEDOM....and with freedom comes responsibility.

Freedom and responsibility :

When a person gives their allegiance to an external belief structure, they may go in one of several directions. First, they often will become very rigid in their allegiance to the organization or structure to which they have committed. This type of conformity can be seen through various forms of fundamentalism -- religious, political, psychological systems, etc.

Second, they may present as being very committed to a belief systems or organization, but they feel very comfortable bending the rules where it does fit their desires. It becomes easy to bend the rules because they are not really committed to the underlying values system. However, when a person is deeply committed to authentic moral or value principles, they are less willing to act in ways which contradict these principles. The principles are authentic.

Another way avoid responsibility can occur through the belief that one is powerless. There can be many factors which are seen to render a person powerless. A person can perceive themselves as a victim of their environment, of various supernatural or spiritual forces, their unconscious, or a victim of their biology/genes. While an existential approach will recognize that all of these factors may influence a person, none of them render a person powerless or completely control them.

That being said...I bring up Henry David Thoreau...who moved away from the social structure, and consciousness to find the genius to write:

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined. As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler.

I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestioned ability of a man to elevate his life by conscious endeavor.

Moving away from large clusters of social structure in large populated cities with the high frequency of ego based conscious...is not a bad thing at all...as proven by people like Thoreau...you are better able to tap into the knowing of all that is..and create genius..the power that resides in everyone...removed from EGO driven fear

It is about tapping into the unlimited knowing of the "I AM"...all that is. Because with that KNOWING, you will have the radiance all over the world..not just in chosen spots.

This evolution is for all mankind..and anybody that has made you believe that you must separate for that purpose is lying.

Will you be better able to experience that in a radiant zone?...probably...if the social consciousness of that radiant zone allows it.

And therein lies the delima....who is to say that the builders of the radiant zones and it's members are not creating the illusion of utopia. When Utopia can be had all over the world when the evolution is born.

Whose to say you are not building them on a premise that isolation is the only answer.;when you remove yourself from the zone to find a quite different and Radiant world?

And that the social structures of the radiant zones are built on the sole premise of KNOWING and FREEDOM?

I truly bless your radiant zones..may they be built on Knowing and Freedom....and not social structure devised on anything less.

The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality.
Embrace, instead, the desires of your heart, and make those your experience.

[BROOK]

Raising Social Consciousness

Let's take this beautiful animal
http://bilia.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/elephant-21.jpg
http://www.younggalleryphoto.com/photography/brandt/images/019_Elephant-Mother-&-Baby-.jpg

For much longer then should have ever been allowed..this creature was hunted for nothing other then it's ivory tusks..the bodies of the animals left to be ravaged by nearby predators ...not for food, not for anything other then the greed of the ivory trader.

Social consciousness was raised by the worldwide community to bring to light to the moralistic injustice of such a thing....lowering the population of such an animal.

Raising that social consciousness was not driven by greed, or ego...it was the right thing to do. It was driven by KNOWING...and in bringing to light such injustice...raised the social consciousness of the atrocity.

This is the avenue that needs to be driven..Raising Social Consciousness.

Removing the ego from the equation was what made it right.
And with that Freedom for the animal..comes the responsibility to monitor the situation...as it still goes on today..however much less..but it does exist.

So the moral of the story:

Raising Social consciousness by KNOWING it is wrong...by removing the EGO...brings FREEDOM..and RESPONSIBILITY
See how it goes hand in hand?

[mudra]

Although through the human history many communities, societies and empires have come to fall we are witness at the same time that new communities, societies and empires have been built.
Life is immortal and can't do anything else than go on.

14chakras " We must change the inner to change the outer this is true".

This is true as is true as well that the changes taking place in the outer world are a reflection of the changes taking place within each individual as his journeys on this plane and grows in consciousness.

The radiant zones have'nt started with Camelot or Avalon . They are part of the changes already taking place in the society at large .

According to GENt ( global ecovillage network) 93 ecovillages have already been set up in Europe .
And many more worldwide.

The Global Ecovillage Network is a global confederation of people and communities that meet and share their ideas, exchange technologies, develop cultural and educational exchanges, directories and newsletters, and are dedicated to restoring the land and living "sustainable plus" lives by putting more back into the environment than we take out.

Network members include large networks like Sarvodaya (11,000 sustainable villages in Sri Lanka); EcoYoff and Colufifa (350 villages in Senegal); the Ladakh project on the Tibetian plateau; ecotowns like Auroville in South India, the Federation of Damanhur in Italy and Nimbin in Australia; small rural ecovillages like Gaia Asociación in Argentina and Huehuecoyotl, Mexico; urban rejuvenation projects like Los Angeles EcoVillage and Christiania in Copenhagen; permaculture design sites such as Crystal Waters, Australia, Cochabamba, Bolivia and Barus, Brazil; and educational centres such as Findhorn in Scotland, Centre for Alternative Technology in Wales, Earthlands in Massachusetts, and many more.

GEN's main aim is to support and encourage the evolution of sustainable settlements across the world.
http://gen.ecovillage.org/about/index.html

The movement of establishing new ways of life has already begun and has proven functional .
Those of Avalon aiming at the construction of radiant zones are just part of an already existing transformation that is taking place in the society at large and worldwide. Welcome this .

We are loving the world awake ..It's taking place .We are making the quantum leap and we are all participants in what is taking place .
Time has come to let go of our old pair of shoes and step into the new ones.
We could'nt envision perfection if perfection was'nt already within each of us .
Utopia does'nt exist in the sense that I don't personnally see the sky as the limit.
Dreams are part of the human nature .With our dreams we can move mountains.

Loving kindness
mudra

[BROOK]

As I said Mudra:

I truly bless your radiant zones..may they be built on Knowing and Freedom....and not social structure devised on anything less.


This thread is about so much more than radiant zones....it is about Raising Social Consciousness, Knowing, Freedom and Responsibility for the whole world

[BROOK]

Ultimate Reality and War

several months ago..I ran across someone who wrote something and claimed..all of our problems are because of the "Jews"...I got angry (EGO)...then I made a statement in tears and anger...on a thread called "who am I"..this part I want to share...

Who am I? I'm a mother of three sons, and one grandchild. I'm a musician, I'm the one you pass at the market when shopping...I cry at sad movies, and happy endings. I'm the one you honk at at the traffic light because I'm changing the radio station and not paying attention to the light. I'm the one who can't stand to see the starving children in deprived countries. I'm the one who stood by and watched the twin towers fall in disbelief. I'm the one who watched the United States go to war for the sake of oil and power. I'm the one who woke up to the fact that it is all an illusion...one created to use us against each other.

I'm the one who want's to wake up and find that the illusion is over..that mankind stood up and said ...we are through with your lies...we want only the truth and nothing else will be acceptable. We will stop working your war machine...we want nothing to do with your power agendas. we want to see the starvation end, and the suffering ended. We want the children to be nothing but loved. We hold our future dear to us and will not accept your blaintent lies. we don't care about your boarders...we care about our neighbors...we send them love. We bless them with kindness and giving. We will rebuild our future with strength of compassion. Hate is not a word we use in our vocabulary. Giving is our key to success.

Then and only then will the tears I shed today turn tears of joy. Then mankind can collect the grand prize....the universal prize of humanity shedding it's mask of animal behavior.....and we will be able to join the ranks of Sharing universal love of humanity and creation throughout the universe.



Why do wars start:

This is grossly oversimplified, but it's basically not much different than robbery. That other country has something we want, let's take it away from them. The "something" can be land, resources, people (to convert to a different religion, for work, etc). The "something" can also be power, if the war-starting country perceives "the other guys" to be powerful, and decides to take them out before they get too powerful. Take a big dose of greed, add in a few dashes of fear, and season with a disregard for human life, and you get the recipe for war.

This world was crated complete..one large mass...not separated by countries...boarders...We..the ego driven society made boarders..we made countries...created and formed by WAR...

Sad really..the separation...the isolation...unity for what? A Country? Is that who we are? Are we a country...I am an American? No I'm just me..living in a nation..that was created from the struggle of war based on Freedom that is slowly being taken away. Created by EGO and society structure..and above all...Power over other nations

That is the Ultimate Reality of War
social Consciousness needs to rise above the injustice..above the EGO based decisions that are laid out, and take back our power of Knowing the truth

[mudra]

As I said Mudra:

I truly bless your radiant zones..may they be built on Knowing and Freedom....and not social structure devised on anything less.


This thread is about so much more than radiant zones....it is about Raising Social Consciousness, Knowing, Freedom and Responsibility for the whole world



I have never considered it otherwise Brook.
I believe we all do our best here.
I have seen many here working in the direction of bringing light and wisdom and support to others .
Blessed be their path and blessed be yours.
Blessed be the radiant zones and blessed be your thread .
I wish you well.

Loving kindness
mudra

[14 Chakras]

Mudra,

Thanks for sharing the links on the GEN, interesting stuff. I'm definitely all for sustainable communities being the way of the future, and we have to start somewhere right?

Brook,

I like your last post but want to share an understanding about the ego, that I'm sure we already know, but is always good to have a reminder for us all

The ego is not something we can just talk about and it's gone, it's very much there until we summit the mountain by surrendering the last illusion. This is the spiritual path, and it is quite a journey.

As long as we seek any definition for who we are, we're feeding the separate sense of identity, the illusions of separation, we're feeding the ego.

The I AM, is beyond definitions, it is a state of Being in the Now.

Many people on the spiritual path exchange their materialistic ego for a spiritual one. There is really no difference in the big scheme of things. Either we are in Oneness with all life, or we are the ego. Whether we define ourselves as the mother, the victim, the champion, the awakened one, or whatnot, it's all ego.

The key I think, is to cease to see self as separate, the focus is no longer on who I am, because I AM that I AM and I AM Being here Now.

"I'm a mother of three sons, and one grandchild. I'm a musician, I'm the one you pass at the market when shopping...I cry at sad movies, and happy endings. I'm the one you honk at at the traffic light because I'm changing the radio station and not paying attention to the light. I'm the one who can't stand to see the starving children in deprived countries. I'm the one who stood by and watched the twin towers fall in disbelief. I'm the one who watched the United States go to war for the sake of oil and power. "

All of the below is a definition of who you are that is based on illusion. Your true Self is well beyond these definitions and in order to be reborn into that identity, you will need to surrender who you think you are for who you really are. You must give all in order to receive all. It's akin to giving up some pocket change for a million dollars, but how fervently we here hold on to the pocket change out of fear we will lose, rather than knowing the million dollars is the reward for giving what we thought we had.

Not pointing fingers, I'm working on overcoming ego here myself and it's an ongoing journey. I just think it's a good thing to discuss the traps of ego, especially in a thread in part dedicated to the ego.

[BROOK]

And you are right...I did write it in anger...and it was clouded in EGO...that is why I added it...and stated it was from EGO....
Then I highlighted "it's an illusion...one created to use us against each other."


We are so much more..and it cannot be expressed in words..but feeling and emotion...The true master..the one that knows "I AM" does not speak it in words...they cannot..it is much bigger then words...it is UNLIMITED KNOWING...the I AM..and it resides in EVERYONE...waiting to be tapped.

and not one person out there is without it

[Christo888]

EGO has been tossed around quite a bit as if it is something your not supposed to have!!!

My two cents... Our EGO is a necessary program to have in order to function in 3D. You will never get rid of it you just reprogram it!!! We are in charge of what is programmed into us and self-awareness is a new program of ego.

Once the ego is understood-reprogrammed then Harmony and Balance is the foundation of being a creator being which requires the use of ego as part of consciousness.

Each of us as a fragment of the Whole containing the potential Whole within each fragment uses ego as part of the program to create with. You'll spend the rest of your waking days trying to remove something that is a part of you naturally... it was just hijacked without us knowing about it when we were born... a synthetic ego I guess could even be descriptive like a fake ID.:lol3: The 4 systems are what created the fake ego in us... government, medical, education, and religion; a synthetic christ or anti-christ that we all are.

personal responsibility is understood through cause/effect of ones actions, learning knowledge develops self-awareness, and putting into action the 4 laws develops the creator in us all.:original: Who is being swallowed back into the whole?

[BROOK]

Ego

Is it really you?

I am born...I am the son of the Prince of Wales...I'm in line to be the next king of England. Everything around me is rich and posh. I want for nothing. My freedom to go in the public is infringed by cameras and reporters...I was raised to lead a Country. Everything around me reflects who I am...it was my destiny to be a King.


I am born...I am the son of a poor man in South Central Los Angeles....my brother is a gang member...I don't know how to read and write properly...it was not a priority...I'm going to grow up to be a gang member.....it was my destiny to be a gang member.

These are reflections of Social Consciousness..being termed the identity...

It is from others that you get the idea of who you are. They shape your center. This center is false, because you carry your real center. That is nobody's business. Nobody shapes it. You come with it.
You are born with it.


So you have two centers. One center you come with, which is given by existence itself. That is the self. And the other center, which is created by the society, is the ego. It is a false thing - and it is a very great trick. Through the ego the society is controlling you. You have to behave in a certain way, because only then does the society appreciate you. You have to walk in a certain way; you have to laugh in a certain way; you have to follow certain manners, a morality, a code. Only then will the society appreciate you, and if it doesn't, you ego will be shaken. And when the ego is shaken, you don't know where you are, who you are. The others have given you the idea.
That idea is the ego.


Try to understand it as deeply as possible, because this has to be thrown. And unless you throw it you will never be able to attain to the self. Because you are addicted to the center, you cannot move, and you cannot look at the self. And remember, there is going to be an interim period, an interval, when the ego will be shattered, when you will not know who you are, when you will not know where you are going, when all boundaries will melt.
You will simply be confused, a chaos.
Because of this chaos, you are afraid to lose the ego. But it has to be so. One has to pass through the chaos before one attains to the real center.
And if you are daring, the period will be small.

We all have egos...it's getting to the center that counts..to get to the center..to attain the unlimited knowing...or you can forever stay where you believe you must stay with the ego....but it is not the real you...and my ego is not the real me....I am much more..and so are all of you
The ego is plastic..not real..

going to the real center..the self..the true self, everything changes, everything settles again. But now this settling is not done by the society. Now everything becomes a cosmos, not a chaos; a new order arises. But this is no longer the order of the society - it is the very order of existence itself.

It is what Buddha calls Dhamma, Lao Tzu calls Tao, Heraclitus calls Logos , it is unlimited KNOWING. It is not man-made. It is the VERY order of existence itself. Then everything is suddenly beautiful again, and for the first time really beautiful.

The difference is just like the difference between a real flower and a plastic or paper flower. The ego is a plastic flower - dead. It just looks like a flower, it is not a flower. You cannot really call it a flower. Even linguistically to call it a flower is wrong, because a flower is something which flowers. And this plastic thing is just a thing, not a flowering. It is dead. There is no life in it.
You have a flowering center within. That's why Hindus call it a lotus - it is a flowering. They call it the one-thousand-petaled-lotus. One thousand means infinite petals. And it goes on flowering, it never stops, it never dies.

This is not to say..forget who you are..or your current life experience....but to attain and use the unlimited knowledge of who you really are

[mudra]

YouTube - Eckhart Tolle, not reacting to content, www.soundstrue.com

Loving kindness
mudra

[BROOK]

That was a perfect video to add to this thread Mudra

He is talking about unlimited KNOWING, and stilling the EGO..he also brings into the end that this is what is happening now in social consciousness....Great find!

I have several of his books and videos..but the hardest thing for me to follow was stilling the Ego..as I'm sure it is for many..because it won't let go...it wants a life of it's own....it tells you it is YOU..
And when you finally release it..the "NOW" he speaks of IS unlimited knowing....the I AM..all that is ..that gives you the power to not only experience the unlimited knowing..but to embrace life fully...and create fully..with no outside distractions from the EGO

With that power...in Social consciousness ....the world will change..you will have peace on earth..and everlasting FREEDOM

Thank you Mudra for that wonderful enlightening video..it was perfect the timing

[BROOK]

THE WHISTLEBLOWER AND KNOWING

I watched one of the many videos of a whistleblower here on Avalon...and it started out with a man describing that he knew of our ultimate origin ....the creation of US..then he said..this is his perception

He carried on to describe many levels of dimension ....then he said..."and on this level is where the ego is created..." At that point I realized that the series of videos is exactly what he said...it was his Perception ...and I watched further..and I saw his ego describing heaven and hell....the ET phenomena ..through great research he explained all the past Gods and the reason for the pyramids...their basis of origin and purpose.

It was fascinating ...and because I have never done any of this research myself...it seemed very plausible....but was it the "TRUTH"

How much of that information came from "Knowing"..and how much came from the ego based brain..with the research to cloud the perception?

Herein lies another delima :

First..where is the proof?...is it based on conjecture? From past research and theory? could the truth be clouded by such theory and research?

I believe he did tap into a "knowing"...he seemed very convinced of that fact..and seemed very genuine...but how much of the information was filtered through the brain..and processed by the EGO....DELIMA...what is the truth? Is this ultimate truth? Is it "his" truth..filtered by ego?

This is where unlimited "knowing" comes in handy...because it is not filtered by ego..it simply is the Truth.

The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality.

[mudra]

when we get angry, go outside, take a few breaths and look to the stars. Why? When we look to the stars we realise how small we are, and how silly clinging to a single idea or difference is. Every idea, all perspectives, every conversation, is just one dot blinking in the sky. We stand so high and mighty, isolated and trapped, yet the blinking lights in the sky remind us that it’s all so meaningless. That the little voice in our head whispering HOW important this idea is, is just that, really little.

By looking to the stars we begin feeling in our bodies the boundlessness of life. We feel the unlimited reality. The stars anchor us to reality, and help us expand. We loosen the grip on our ideas. We begin seeing that differences are just as true, simply from another point of view. With ideas and differences, there’s plenty of space for all.

Men are disturbed not by things but by the way they take them.

Loving kindness
mudra

[BROOK]

The NWO..Illuminati..the PTB...and EGO

How we have let these powers effect our Ego....through problem reaction solution, as David Icke says..they create these scenarios ...then take control of our ego through fear..rage...anger.

You may be enlightened to their game..but you still are controlled by the rage and anger and fear. So just because you know of their nefarious plans to control you...you have made yourself susceptible to their ultimate control.

And they push you through the river of deception and evil...created by greed and EGO....how do you get to the rivers shore? How do you pull yourself out of the river and into the light..or out of the matrix as David Icke calls it?

First through Knowing....release the ego...ie; anger, fear, rage....and attain Knowing.

Then you raise social consciousness....awareness..not through conspiracy...but truth...Knowing...without ego involvement..the right thing to do...as in the elephant story...no ego involvement...not conspiracy...just TRUTH
Not through conspiracy...because that is a theory...truth only

And of course....freedom and responsibility will follow..and we all know that means WORK...work to achieve that freedom.

We can cast about theories all day long..but until the WORK is done to bring out the REAL TRUTH....it is all just talk.

With freedom comes Responsibility

And responsibility...to do the work to maintain and monitor the situation...remove the control of the ego....the PTB..the fear..the deception.

Knowing , Freedom, Responsibility

[BROOK]

Knowing Freedom

To know freedom..one must understand bondage. Because how active will you be coming from complacency?....Sitting in front of your computer..looking for the next new best thread. This is not to say you are not trying to do your part...however

Have you lost your home due to the economy? Lost your job?

Do you have it in you to stand up and say "I have had enough of the tyranny"?

With Freedom comes responsibility;

Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud

Are you waiting for the next best man, or political figure to come along and make another dead promise?

This man was not a political figure...he made himself one
http://rainandtherhinoceros.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/martin-luther-king-jr-photo-1.jpg

He took responsibility...and told the truth.
He worked hard to bring justice and truth...and paid with his life.

Now here is a twist....America made him the national hero for "Americas great struggle for racial equality"
They made him a political figure..however..toward the end of his struggle did you know
he was opposed to the republican and the democratic parties?
did you know he spoke out against capitalism?
then he was shot....hmmm...an America hero? Or just a hero of truth and knowing...


He did not let fear of the PTB get in the way...he marched to raise social consciousness ,
So everybody would know of the injustice that disturbed his whole race.

He took responsibility to know freedom

Could your ego be in fear of judgement...to tell the truth..from knowing..not conspiracy but the truth...
and raise social consciousness?

[BROOK]

The power to choose Freedom and Utopia

"Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom." We have heard that many times. What is also the price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections. If everything that is wrong with the world becomes a reason to turn more power over to some political savior, then freedom is going to erode while we are mindlessly repeating the catchwords of the hour, whether "change," "universal health care" or "social justice."

What we strive for , a "utopia" society structure with perfection...how to create perfection?

Let's go back to square one. The universe was not made to our specifications. Nor were human beings. So there is nothing surprising in the fact that we are dissatisfied with many things at many times. The big question is whether we are prepared to follow any politician who claims to be able to "solve" our "problem."

If we are, then there will be a never-ending series of "solutions," each causing new problems calling for still more "solutions."

Therein lies the never-ending quest, costing ever increasing amounts of the taxpayers' money and ever greater losses of your freedom to live your own life as you see fit, rather than as presumptuous elites dictate, driven by power and greed ..don't forget where the power elite play their game..Ultimately, our choice is to give up Utopian quests or give up our freedom. This has been recognized for centuries by some, but many others have not yet faced that reality, even today. If you think government should "do something" about anything that ticks you off, or anything you want and don't have, then you have made your choice between Utopia and freedom.
You have given your power to choose away to the very people who have taken it away.

Food for thought...the illusive utopia does exist..where does it exist?
Think harder...it the mind of every one...in the KNOWING it does exist...but for who..and where..and when is the choice we must decide

[BROOK]

"The universe is so vast and we are so small, and in the blink of an eye all is gone, I guess when it comes down to it we really have no control over anything..."


Is this a true statement? I think not...we are much larger then we even realized....
We are born of the all that is..the great I AM..we are infinite beings..weather you choose to believe this or not, it is so.

We are much larger that anything imaginable...we are light...we are energy....we are part of everything around us. We came here to create everything we can imagine. If we imagine small, then we create small. If we imagine big then we create big.

Quantum physics, sacred geometry, Masaru Emoto: messages from water...have shown you ...you are very large indeed. We Have power to create infinite

So where have we gotten the idea that we are small, and have no control?

could it be Religion?

Some religion has taught us that if we do wrong..we will go to hell.

Some teach that we reincarnate..to experience...then live out past karma...of things we have experienced.

Some teach of "rites" and ritual...ridged behavior

Most religions have a prophet...who have a knowing of the I AM..the Dhamma...the Tao, The Lord of all Lords.

But the writings...and the structure...the dogma...the social structure especially have been used to control...some even through political advancement...some through creating boarders..and where do you draw the line and say this is the TRUTH

How many religious institutions have become fat and rich from the FAITH of the masses. How many hold the secrets and choose not to let you KNOW.

The delima...

What to believe...most of these Prophets if not all..were in touch with the I AM...choosing one prophet..Jesus Christ said....

"He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything "

there is a message from every great prophet from the I AM...and it says....KNOWING....unlimited knowing....know you are too the sons and daughters of GOD...know you can be that knowing...and believe that life is eternal..that you are infinite beings.

Know that you have the power to create..to expand..to be a universe if you so choose...to experience unconditional love of all that is.

An know that in the coming years the vale of the 3D is lifting...and you will shed the ego self..and it will be the battle of Armageddon to shed that ego...the Antichrist!
Know you will finally see the truth these religions and the PTB did not want you to see...that you have the power to be immortal..and free. The power of Light everlasting...and create Heaven on Earth...through what? KNOWING of the creator of all that IS


Don't choose to "seek knowing" don't choose to say "I hope to know more"...or "I seek more knowing"...for the law of attraction kicks in and you will be forever "wanting", and "seeking"....just simply say to your self one very simple thing and it will reveal itself..."I KNOW"
Shed the ego..not the life experience..for from that comes experience...but do not be driven by the ego..the Antichrist, anymore....be that of Knowing.

For with KNOWING comes FREEDOM....are you ready to take that step?

Are you ready to become so large as a star?

http://startswithabang.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bigbang.jpg

[BROOK]

C'est fait
or
It is Done

Blessings to all, may you experience Unlimited Knowing


http://www.124simi.com/images/area_images/sunsets.jpg

[mudra]

http://image-photos.linternaute.com/image_photo/540/compositions-florales-autres-fleurs-hanoi-vietnam-4845086933-445489.jpg

People will forget what you said
People will forget what you did
But they will never forget how you made them feel.

Thank you Brook for the heart that shines through your words.

Loving kindness
mudra

[14 Chakras]

Very beautiful Brook. Keep on Being. Thank you for letting your light shine through. Let us Be the suns and daughters of the infinite below as the stars are above. The earth will be made light as it is meant to Be, through our own Be-ness. The art of Now. Victory for Life and planet earth.

"The universe is so vast and we are so small, and in the blink of an eye all is gone, I guess when it comes down to it we really have no control over anything..."


Is this a true statement? I think not...we are much larger then we even realized....
We are born of the all that is..the great I AM..we are infinite beings..weather you choose to believe this or not, it is so.

We are much larger that anything imaginable...we are light...we are energy....we are part of everything around us. We came here to create everything we can imagine. If we imagine small, then we create small. If we imagine big then we create big.

Quantum physics, sacred geometry, Masaru Emoto: messages from water...have shown you ...you are very large indeed. We Have power to create infinite

So where have we gotten the idea that we are small, and have no control?

could it be Religion?

Some religion has taught us that if we do wrong..we will go to hell.

Some teach that we reincarnate..to experience...then live out past karma...of things we have experienced.

Some teach of "rites" and ritual...ridged behavior

Most religions have a prophet...who have a knowing of the I AM..the Dhamma...the Tao, The Lord of all Lords.

But the writings...and the structure...the dogma...the social structure especially have been used to control...some even through political advancement...some through creating boarders..and where do you draw the line and say this is the TRUTH

How many religious institutions have become fat and rich from the FAITH of the masses. How many hold the secrets and choose not to let you KNOW.

The delima...

What to believe...most of these Prophets if not all..were in touch with the I AM...choosing one prophet..Jesus Christ said....

"He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything "

there is a message from every great prophet from the I AM...and it says....KNOWING....unlimited knowing....know you are too the sons and daughters of GOD...know you can be that knowing...and believe that life is eternal..that you are infinite beings.

Know that you have the power to create..to expand..to be a universe if you so choose...to experience unconditional love of all that is.

An know that in the coming years the vale of the 3D is lifting...and you will shed the ego self..and it will be the battle of Armageddon to shed that ego...the Antichrist!
Know you will finally see the truth these religions and the PTB did not want you to see...that you have the power to be immortal..and free. The power of Light everlasting...and create Heaven on Earth...through what? KNOWING of the creator of all that IS


Don't choose to "seek knowing" don't choose to say "I hope to know more"...or "I seek more knowing"...for the law of attraction kicks in and you will be forever "wanting", and "seeking"....just simply say to your self one very simple thing and it will reveal itself..."I KNOW"
Shed the ego..not the life experience..for from that comes experience...but do not be driven by the ego..the Antichrist, anymore....be that of Knowing.

For with KNOWING comes FREEDOM....are you ready to take that step?

Are you ready to become so large as a star?

http://startswithabang.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bigbang.jpg

[BROOK]

Thank your 14 Chackras and Mudra for your contributions

[BROOK]

Here is a start to raise social consciousness

Take Part Social Action Network

http://www.takepart.com/

Help the homeless...there are over 90,000 homeless in the greater Los Angeles area alone,
And a greater part of them are mentally ill

http://www.takepart.com/lists/the-soloist-educational-resource-guide/15800

Here is one I personally belong to
United for Peace and Justice

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/

It's a start

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/h/heart_in_the_sky-1804.jpg


Please add any you might know of

[mudra]

The many great gardens of the world, of literature and poetry, of painting and music,
of religion and architecture, all make the point as clear as possible: The soul cannot
thrive in the absence of a garden. If you don't want paradise, you are not human;
and if you are not human, you don't have a soul.

- Thomas Moore, The Re-Enchantment of Everyday Life, 1996, p. 101

Loving kindness
mudra

[BROOK]

Hold on to the center and make up your mind to rejoice in this paradise called life.
Lao Tzu

[Malynda]

Knowing Freedom

To know freedom..one must understand bondage. Because how active will you be coming from complacency?....Sitting in front of your computer..looking for the next new best thread. This is not to say you are not trying to do your part...however

Have you lost your home due to the economy? Lost your job?

Do you have it in you to stand up and say "I have had enough of the tyranny"?

With Freedom comes responsibility;

Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud

Are you waiting for the next best man, or political figure to come along and make another dead promise?

This man was not a political figure...he made himself one
http://rainandtherhinoceros.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/martin-luther-king-jr-photo-1.jpg

He took responsibility...and told the truth.
He worked hard to bring justice and truth...and paid with his life.

Now here is a twist....America made him the national hero for "Americas great struggle for racial equality"
They made him a political figure..however..toward the end of his struggle did you know
he was opposed to the republican and the democratic parties?
did you know he spoke out against capitalism?
then he was shot....hmmm...an America hero? Or just a hero of truth and knowing...


He did not let fear of the PTB get in the way...he marched to raise social consciousness ,
So everybody would know of the injustice that disturbed his whole race.

He took responsibility to know freedom

Could your ego be in fear of judgement...to tell the truth..from knowing..not conspiracy but the truth...
and raise social consciousness?



Brook, this post really struck a chord with me. It's exactly what I needed at this point in time as I am trying to accept that I was born free and have unknowingly volunteered to be in servitude, until now. I have not made it all the way through this thread yet as there is much to digest and all of it resonates with me. The videos you posted on page 1 featuring Jake will be next on my to do list as I really like his freeman videos and he has inspired me. Another synchronicity for me today... :original: Thanks for helping bring this all together for me. Now back to reading the rest of the thread. Thanks for putting these ideas out here. Great job!!!

On a personal note, I've missed ya and I'm glad to have you back and be back. :wub2:

[Malynda]

http://image-photos.linternaute.com/image_photo/540/compositions-florales-autres-fleurs-hanoi-vietnam-4845086933-445489.jpg

People will forget what you said
People will forget what you did
But they will never forget how you made them feel.

Thank you Brook for the heart that shines through your words.

Loving kindness
mudra

Beautiful words, mudra. Thank you for your profound words as always.

[Malynda]

Here is a start to raise social consciousness

Take Part Social Action Network

http://www.takepart.com/

Help the homeless...there are over 90,000 homeless in the greater Los Angeles area alone,
And a greater part of them are mentally ill

http://www.takepart.com/lists/the-soloist-educational-resource-guide/15800

Here is one I personally belong to
United for Peace and Justice

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/

It's a start

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/h/heart_in_the_sky-1804.jpg


Please add any you might know of

Thanks for those links, Brook. I have been considering starting a community project in my little complex here for the past couple days. Many elderly people live here and all of us are struggling in some way shape or form but we all have gifts and talents that I'm sure could help us all out. Then in helping us in this small community, I hope to cause a ripple effect so that we eventually go outside our community and help many people and the planet as a whole. For me, small steps are what is need at this time. Thank you for your inspiration.

[rhythm]

I im free when

i feel at home where ever i am

when i trust totaly

when i love and have commpasion

for the all ....

and there is only knowing that i

dont realy know entything ...

and then there is nothing to defend

and then what i knew a moment ago

is changed in this moment ...

but the love remains unchanged ...

total love ...rhythmm...

[BROOK]

Thanks for those links, Brook. I have been considering starting a community project in my little complex here for the past couple days. Many elderly people live here and all of us are struggling in some way shape or form but we all have gifts and talents that I'm sure could help us all out. Then in helping us in this small community, I hope to cause a ripple effect so that we eventually go outside our community and help many people and the planet as a whole. For me, small steps are what is need at this time. Thank you for your inspiration.

All steps be they big or small for something positive is a step in the right direction :thumb_yello:

[day]

Brook ..... I love your energy...seeing all things through the eyes of spirit we see the unity, the connecting thread to all things. Grandfather calls this the Spirit that moves through all things.

I feel that is your message...what you are seeing and this is different from seeing this from ego's perspective which is focused on self only

a beautiful thread

love you Brook!

[Malletzky]

I would only slightly change the thread title to:

knowing IS freedom


...knowing that comes from the heart, where no truths and no lies are hidden, but just pure knowing that can set us free...

Brook, thanks for this thread dear, beautuful thoughts here from the gathered soul family...

...and thank you for the excerpts from the "Ramtha-the white book"...I just sensed that I must reread it...

with :wub2:
malletzky

[BROOK]

I would only slightly change the thread title to:

knowing IS freedom


...knowing that comes from the heart, where no truths and no lies are hidden, but just pure knowing that can set us free...

Brook, thanks for this thread dear, beautuful thoughts here from the gathered soul family...

...and thank you for the excerpts from the "Ramtha-the white book"...I just sensed that I must reread it...

with :wub2:
malletzky

You are welcome malletzky.....and it just keeps getting clearer :thumb_yello:

Knowing is within us waiting to be tapped :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

If this video does not make you cry..then your soul has been put to sleep...
Just look in their eyes...your soul will connect

YouTube - 100 Children You Must Meet

Social awareness...need to be risen to new heights of love and compassion

Another source of Change
Living compassion

http://africa.livingcompassion.org/avcpsupport.html

YouTube - Transformation from the Inside Out

[BROOK]

On October 7, 2001, the United States attacked Afghanistan.



Today, on the eighth anniversary of the war, the generals are requesting another escalation of 40,000 American troops for next year, as well as a rapid expansion of the Afghan national army and police. The Obama administration is re-evaluating its strategy and considering not sending the additional troops. But President Obama is still saying that he does not plan to substantially reduce current troop levels.

We need this war to end....if you have read this thread ...then you will understand how important it is to raise social consciousness ..and take back our freedom....remember this post?


Ultimate Reality and War

several months ago..I ran across someone who wrote something and claimed..all of our problems are because of the "Jews"...I got angry (EGO)...then I made a statement in tears and anger...on a thread called "who am I"..this part I want to share...


Who am I? I'm a mother of three sons, and one grandchild. I'm a musician, I'm the one you pass at the market when shopping...I cry at sad movies, and happy endings. I'm the one you honk at at the traffic light because I'm changing the radio station and not paying attention to the light. I'm the one who can't stand to see the starving children in deprived countries. I'm the one who stood by and watched the twin towers fall in disbelief. I'm the one who watched the United States go to war for the sake of oil and power. I'm the one who woke up to the fact that it is all an illusion...one created to use us against each other.

I'm the one who want's to wake up and find that the illusion is over..that mankind stood up and said ...we are through with your lies...we want only the truth and nothing else will be acceptable. We will stop working your war machine...we want nothing to do with your power agendas. we want to see the starvation end, and the suffering ended. We want the children to be nothing but loved. We hold our future dear to us and will not accept your blaintent lies. we don't care about your boarders...we care about our neighbors...we send them love. We bless them with kindness and giving. We will rebuild our future with strength of compassion. Hate is not a word we use in our vocabulary. Giving is our key to success.

Then and only then will the tears I shed today turn tears of joy. Then mankind can collect the grand prize....the universal prize of humanity shedding it's mask of animal behavior.....and we will be able to join the ranks of Sharing universal love of humanity and creation throughout the universe.


Why do wars start:

This is grossly oversimplified, but it's basically not much different than robbery. That other country has something we want, let's take it away from them. The "something" can be land, resources, people (to convert to a different religion, for work, etc). The "something" can also be power, if the war-starting country perceives "the other guys" to be powerful, and decides to take them out before they get too powerful. Take a big dose of greed, add in a few dashes of fear, and season with a disregard for human life, and you get the recipe for war.

This world was crated complete..one large mass...not separated by countries...boarders...We..the ego driven society made boarders..we made countries...created and formed by WAR...

Sad really..the separation...the isolation...unity for what? A Country? Is that who we are? Are we a country...I am an American? No I'm just me..living in a nation..that was created from the struggle of war based on Freedom that is slowly being taken away. Created by EGO and society structure..and above all...Power over other nations

That is the Ultimate Reality of War
social Consciousness needs to rise above the injustice..above the decisions that are laid out, and take back our power of Knowing the truth




so anyone here in the United States ...please contact the White House at
202-456-1111 or http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=FrdXUbnzUbSiPJhi9GwGK5RxUkkx94Zb

Tell President Obama not to send more troops to Afghanistan, to withdraw our troops and to promote peace.

Be the change

:wub2:

[BROOK]

Brook ..... I love your energy...seeing all things through the eyes of spirit we see the unity, the connecting thread to all things. Grandfather calls this the Spirit that moves through all things.

I feel that is your message...what you are seeing and this is different from seeing this from ego's perspective which is focused on self only

a beautiful thread

love you Brook!
Thank you lovely Day....your words are so kind:wub2: