Bill Ryan Interviews Kerry About Her Interviewing Style

[Karen]

Bill asks Kerry questions on behalf of the listeners and reveals some interesting information about Kerry Cassidy's interviewing style, how and why she developed this style and why she will continue despite repeated criticisms that she's doing it wrong or outside of the accepted norm.

Now available in the Whistleblower Radio Archives
http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-081109.mp3

11 August 2009

• On today's Camelot radio show (11am to 1pm PST) I'll be interviewing Kerry Cassidy about the recent Camelot video with Steven Greer. If you watched the video, don't miss this show.

This on-camera encounter has sparked huge interest and controversy, and the issues raised could not be more important. We invite people to phone in - but cannot promise to pick up your call, as there may be many. The number is (+1) 512 879 3805.

We thank everyone who's written to us with their intelligent and perceptive comments about the questions debated: whether any ET visitors are other than friendly and benign, and whether the US government has ongoing relationships with any ET race. Dr Greer says no to both questions, and in the video we strongly challenged his publicly stated position.

As a final note, we have been contacted by Dr Greer's Disclosure Project office with a very courteous written apology for their previous statements, in response to private enquiries, to the effect that Project Camelot was disinformation. We very much appreciate this Disclosure Project administrator's integrity and have no hesitation in accepting her apology.

--Bill

[krystal]

A lot of us feel that Kerry owes Dr Greer an apology really..... tell her to read the comments on UTube.

[Myplanet2]

It seems likely Kerry will just continue as she has, until PC/PA collapse, and even then, she'll go on wondering what's wrong with everybody else, and why "they" don't get it.

It's hard to fathom the "I'm so obviously right that there must be something wrong with you if you don't get me" attitude.

I hope Bill does and posts some interviews alone. Those I could watch.

[franciejones]

I did not listen to the radio show as I knew what it was going to entail.
I am so glad to see some people here on Avalon are commenting regarding their disagreement. I have seen far too many posts that are "nicey-nicey" and oddly supportive of such gross misconduct.
I do feel that everyone should do or say what they want...(which ofcourse includes Kerry and Bill) but I also think that there are consequences for doing or saying what you want as well. This is not the first time I have seen disagreeable behavior from PC...it is just the most overt example of it.

[Jenny]

It seems likely Kerry will just continue as she has, until PC/PA collapse, and even then, she'll go on wondering what's wrong with everybody else, and why "they" don't get it.

It's hard to fathom the "I'm so obviously right that there must be something wrong with you if you don't get me" attitude.

I hope Bill does and posts some interviews alone. Those I could watch.


The clash of ego's; Greer and Kerry.
Whatever Kerry is blaming Greer for she is doing all of it herself.
How Ironic...

And I second all of the above MyPlanet 2.

[Unified Serenity]

I already did a play by play analysis of what I saw on the other thread about Dr. Greer and disinformation. In a very short summary, the set up was terrible. Bill and Kerry should have sat next to each other and there should have been a table present as Dr. Greer's body language said a lot that would not have been as apparent had there been a table present. I would even say a nice round table.

Dr. Greer had a lions share of the time to talk in the first 30 minutes, and had Bill or Kerry not interrupted him, there would have been one 30 second question asked and an hour of Dr. Greer talking. The last half of the interview was an equal give and take on the issue of "good vs. bad" ET and both sides views.

I think Dr. Greer was just as abrasive and had a lot of gall complaining that he was not getting to answer questions, when in the analysis I did, he spoke for several minutes usually and in most interviews a host will interject some comments if a guest says something they want to explore before the guest goes on for another 5 minutes.

I really do think that had the physical set up been different the feel of the interview would have been very different.

[Seashore]

...Dr. Greer's body language said a lot that would not have been as apparent had there been a table present.

But body language is an important communicator. Sometimes it communicates more than the words spoken.

[Unified Serenity]

Yes it does, but the set up was not conducive to a comfortable flow of communication with Dr. Greer appearing to be flanked (attacked) from all sides and his constant turning back and forth. Someone actually said at one point that Dr. Greer quit looking at Kerry and kept talking with Bill. This would not have happened as obviously had Bill and Kerry sat together.

I am speaking from a pov as an interviewer. I would not put two guest's on either side of me, nor would I put one guest between me and a co-host as obviously as was done in the interview. A table would have made an already tense dynamic less so.

[Sarahmay]

Dr. Greer had a lions share of the time to talk in the first 30 minutes, and had Bill or Kerry not interrupted him, there would have been one 30 second question asked and an hour of Dr. Greer talking. The last half of the interview was an equal give and take on the issue of "good vs. bad" ET and both sides views. .

Yes, Greer had plenty of talk time, but spent it all rebutting Kerry's assertions that there were bad ETs and we were under attack. It was ridiculous, and I learned nothing about Greer's work.

[Seashore]

Yes it does, but the set up was not conducive to a comfortable flow of communication with Dr. Greer appearing to be flanked (attacked) from all sides and his constant turning back and forth. Someone actually said at one point that Dr. Greer quit looking at Kerry and kept talking with Bill. This would not have happened as obviously had Bill and Kerry sat together.

I am speaking from a pov as an interviewer. I would not put two guest's on either side of me, nor would I put one guest between me and a co-host as obviously as was done in the interview. A table would have made an already tense dynamic less so.

How about just rearrange the chairs?

[franciejones]

Some people will just continue to defend Kerry regardless of the evidence. That is just the way it is. I do find it sad however and hope that those who are blind for whatever reason are not doling out their hard earned cash to these people. That is and continues to be a tragedy.

[Phtha]

Good lord, you guys have turned into a typical mob squad.. :mfr_lol:

There is something called forgiveness, it is pretty neat because it clears out all those hateful and angry feelings you harbor towards another person. In other words you forgive yourself by clearing negativity and karma from your being. Try it if you don't believe it. :original:

If you don't want to try forgiveness, then please stop spreading your negativity at every chance you get. To be frank it has become quite childish.

And sorry to say O' great profit but camelot and avalon are not collapsing. Not everyone shares your vision. This has nothing to do with defending Kerry, it has to do with keeping an open mind, staying positive, and not harboring hateful feelings towards others.

I suggest you guys quite coming here if you all really feel the way you do. Remember, spreading bliss is the path, not hate!

Peace!

Some people will just continue to defend Kerry regardless of the evidence. That is just the way it is. I do find it sad however and hope that those who are blind for whatever reason are not doling out their hard earned cash to these people. That is and continues to be a tragedy.

[franciejones]

I respect your point of view Phtha. While I do agree that positivity is important...I do not think that speaking the truth is negative. I think if it makes you uncomfortable then you should not read this thread. Spreading bliss is not the path in my opinion. If that were the only objective...then this would be strange indeed. Often, learning itself can be unpleasant. I try to keep that in mind as well.

[Unified Serenity]

How about just rearrange the chairs?

That was one of my points, that by sitting next to each other, B & K would have avoided some of the questions, but I would have also used a small round table. It would have also stopped those who complained that Bill was not always in frame. The way I see it, there are some who are major Greer fans, and do not really like Kerry, and no matter what she says or does it will not please them. I happen to like all three of them, and think they each have a role to play.

I am also reminded that it seems some people are approaching an "interview" as if B & K are part of the Washington Press Corps and they get to ask a question and the President / Greer gets to respond for however long as he deems necessary, while I much like Kerry always approached my guests as if in a conversation and seeking to discuss a given topic. Greer came on to speak directly about Kerry's blog comments, so it does seem he wanted an interview about the 'good vs. bad' ET, and I do believe B & K wanted to confront Greer on some of his positions and in their opinion no one has ever done that with Greer, but rather they have acted like the Washington Press Corp and Greer is allowing them to listen to him.

No one is perfect, but I really think some people here may have an agenda to slam pc and especially Kerry. I do not see anything of worth coming from that, and if they really dislike pc and Kerry so much just don't listen or take part in discussions here. Greer has a wonderful website and they can immerse themselves in all things Greer that they want as Kerry said.

[Northern Boy]

What Greer seemed to me to be saying is that entities have been created or cloned and they are not representative of the original beings . This may be true and it also seems that Kerry could not understand what Greer was implying .


The set up should have been different as well you don`t interveiw some one then turn around after it goes bad and call it a debate . Debates have moderators and there were none in this case .If some one tries to say Bill was the moderator then he didn`t do that job well. Moderators don`t usually ask questions they referee the Debate .So for any one to come out and call it a debate after the fact to me seems only is only trying to justfiy what they did .

I have read the comments both here and on you tube several times and have noticed some comments have been removed that were negative in regards to her iinterviewing style

[Jnana]

I just listened to the radio show and I'm feeling nauseous. It was far worse than I imagined possible. It will take me a while to even figure out what, if anything, to say about it.

My personal experience is that Greer is aligned with the forces for good and is working towards a positive transformation of the planet. I'm talking about significant life experiences here, not simply reading books and watching videos. Most of it is too personal to talk about in a public forum, sorry.

More later, if I can manage it.

[judykott]

Personally I would like to see all of the interveiwee's asked tougher questions, and then have some of the answers questioned. I may not agree with the mannerisms and personality but I do believe Kerry has a point that I have never heard real or tough questions asked. In my view even her questions are lightweight and not digging for any real clarification of the planned sound bites that many have been given to spew as pablum to the masses, some as blatantly planned disinformation and massive quantities of misinformation.The style of interruption appears very rude, but on the other hand when dealing with a persona as Greer I do not know if there would be any other method of getting a word in other than perhaps some duct tape.:lol3: His sound bites are so structured and pat that nothing new is offered, just the same which is never defined to my satisfaction.

I would like to see Mel from Veritas interview him but have some tough questions for him with backup questions for Greer's programmed answers. Many of the exopolitic and disclosure testimony does not agree with his stated views. I can see how this leads into the so called "disclosure", his views and some of the planned ideas of Aliens showing up fits right into the format of Project Bluebeam. However if an interviewer asks really tough questions and their is not a huge market following that they have established, I can guarantee that Interviewee's would soon be in short supply as most would not know how to answer a question not of a scripted sort, or off of their prescribed spiel. I believe Clif High, Bruce Lipton, and a few others would be able to handle it, just speculation on my part.

The talk of his higher vibration theory does not fit as charismatic, powerful, and egocentric people often have a strong aura around them as they are aligned within having no conflict in what it is they desire. Higher vibration can be used for either good/bad intentions, there is not an exclusive use of good. That is how so many followers are achieved and how cults are formed by the use of their vibration for the use of in the way they have in mind. I see these as great opportunities for discernment, and non attachment to a particular paradigm. I look forward to listening to more of everyone's interviews and desire real revelations from all involved, and tougher questions. It would be good idea in my opinion that funding for Camelot come from the public and not from some of the interviewee's who are hawking their wares and programmed soundbites as it seems a bit of conflict of interest and not in the best interest in asking the tough questions to one's who are subsidizing you. Although generosity can be seen as a motive, there are advantages to it as well.

I can see how it benefits David Wilcock to be funding them as then he gets contact to their "whistleblowers" for more inside information for him to post on his site. He is a great compiler of others material and presents it in a easily digestible manner.

I am looking forward to their talk with James Gillihand. We are all humans in the process of uncovering the truth that has been concealed for so long, we all have different perceptions and stages of discovering along the way. This goes for the interviewers and interviewee's as well. There are many higher vibrational beings who use this vibration as a power play, as well as the potential for it to be used for more divine purposes. There is the expression blinded by the light and deer in the headlight which are terms that come to mind, a balance and overview perhaps forms a better view, often it is the dawn that brings the most revelations. May new views continue to dawn on me.:lol3:

Note I have been known to switch a view when presented with new info, I am not attached to a view. My view has changed dramatically over the years, my wish is that it continues to otherwise it is stuck:wink2:

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[kari]

I listened to the radioshow and i thought she explained herself really good, there was a reason for them sitting as they were, that way his movments would be recorded, and can be analyzed for later on, she has an interviewing technic that is quit clever, and i think she is doing a good job, i could be stressed up when she interviewed the way she did before, but now i know why she uses the technic she does, i think she is quit brilliant.
Kari

[Carrie1971]

:sad:Good lord, you guys have turned into a typical mob squad.. :mfr_lol:

There is something called forgiveness, it is pretty neat because it clears out all those hateful and angry feelings you harbor towards another person. In other words you forgive yourself by clearing negativity and karma from your being. Try it if you don't believe it. :original:

If you don't want to try forgiveness, then please stop spreading your negativity at every chance you get. To be frank it has become quite childish.

And sorry to say O' great profit but camelot and avalon are not collapsing. Not everyone shares your vision. This has nothing to do with defending Kerry, it has to do with keeping an open mind, staying positive, and not harboring hateful feelings towards others.

I suggest you guys quite coming here if you all really feel the way you do. Remember, spreading bliss is the path, not hate!

Peace!

In a couple of days, I will no longer have the "right to post" (lack of$$$'s) Each time I have taken the time out to log in and "read" the posts on the whole board I end up not really doing well as this is how it is for me.


The above statements in picking apart the "not an interview" between (the e.t.'s will not harm us) and the effort of Kerry and Bill incounter in this thread is just a very fine expamle of what this place has become.

It is not in passing judgement that I am posting this .

IT is a STATEMENT of my OWN.

I (feel deeply) other souls came to this human form with other (gifts) we all were given the gift to be here on earth now at this point in (time) Our life is a gift. What we make of it is up to us. People, please try and understand we are very fast coming to a time of judgement. Each of us is accountable on a day to day living life type of Karma balance.

I do not have the writing skills to say what I want to say.

Kerry can feel the same energy you are giving her. As can all of human kind. This is a world we are living on here, and this place has time (for now we are in a place of TIME) It is our actions and each persons thinking which hold in the balance of where each one of us are going to be when the (time ends).

WE ALL must stay centered on the today, keeping our mind on the good works we can do. NOT on the picking apart to the core of another person, group, or race.

So with me still not having the writing skills to say what I wish all of those who read this could know if I could say what I want in words I will hit post. Anyone who wishes to conatct me can write to a hot mail address where I am
wenatchee71 (at) hotmail (dot) com [Edit email format by Karen - the spambots troll the internet for email addresses to spam]

[kari]

One thing I have been thinking about regarding Steven Greer, he has been persuing free energy for so long and wants people who are in the knowhow to contact him, but nothing has become of it, is there a possibility that we are seeing another scenario, of the agenda that played out before, regarding the U:F:O phenomena, if I remember correctly, the government wanted people to report any sightings and if they had films or photos of that nature, they would help develop them and as they stated, would investigate what various phenomena was all about, but instead they covered it up.
Sometimes I get this feeling about Steven Greer, I could be wrong but that`s a possibility , what`s your take on this?
Kari

[Lightpotential]

Dear Kari,

Upon the Free Energy issue, it has to be said that though there would appear to be many researchers over the years that have developed and successfully constructed various Free Energy devices – right up from the time of Tesla – the critical breakthrough in MASS producing a compact device for retail has never been achieved as yet. This is the point at which extreme ruthlessness by the powers that be is exerted to destroy any would be inventor. Perhaps the closest was Edwin Grey, who indeed literally had the production line set up and ready to go before ‘law officers’ shut him down.

The critical breakthrough in getting these devices to the masses has yet to be made.

LP

[Jnana]

they stated, would investigate what various phenomena was all about, but instead they covered it up.
Sometimes I get this feeling about Steven Greer, I could be wrong but that`s a possibility , what`s your take on this?

Greer has provided funding to a number of inventors initially thought to be promising who have failed to produce results. I don't think their criteria for deciding who to fund have worked very well. Most of the inventors have a poor understanding of why what they did works, and can't produce new versions with reproducable plans because they don't understand why the old one worked. The inventors tend to be difficult to work with. There are a number of inventors who won't work with Greer because of legal aspects of the contracts he wants them to work under. Besides which, it's a difficult problem to solve in the first place. I think Greer has sunk a lot of time, money, and effort into this, and has thought a lot about how to get the invention out to the world if one of the inventors ever succedes. It's not just a matter of getting something to work a little bit. Greer won't go public until he has a proven reproducable device with a useful energy output.

[Relayer]

Kerry :thumbdown:

[iainl140285]

All this people bashing sure makes a change from all the swine Flew posts:mfr_lol::naughty:

[Northern Boy]

You can`t hear what people say when you constantly talk over them an interview should consist of your guest speaking a greater percentage of the time then you other wise what is the sense . Why invite some one to join into an interview when you are not going to allow them to speak or at least finish what they are talking about before interrupting them. And just so people know I`m not and never have been a big Steven Greer fan

Kerry talks about slavery and sovereignty and she doesn`t understand that she is a slave just like the rest of us . She gives the government consent to govern her actions all the time . If she owns a passport she has submitted as well as a birth certificate does she pay Tax ? I`ll say yes she does = slave unknowingly she participates in her part by being a good slave everyday .

She talks about bucking authority and doing it her way and how she is not conventional but yet she complies with the statutes and acts that are passed off as laws with out ever stopping to look at them . Consent to be governed =SLAVE so welcome to the jungle Kerry your just like the rest of us . Your interviews remind me more of a spoiled child trying to get her way then some one searching for the truth I have never been able to watch a full interview yet and don`t think I ever will. ........ Sorry but that is My truth

[franciejones]

I hear ya "Nort B". Very infuriating. She talks about "being responsible due to having a following" and yet she is just as bad or worse! (I don't care for Greer much either btw)

[Karen]

Interesting replies ...
Disappointing overall ...

No, of course Kerry is not perfect. None of us are.
I have to admire her fortitude to stay true to herself as I look back over my life where I let other people blow me around like a feather in the whirlwind.

What I'm hearing in this radio show is Kerry is the unique manifestation of herself. And she will not buckle under pressure to change her style - so give it up and move on. Just ask Bill who has made comments like - you can't put a leash on Kerry and what he said in this interview about the 1,000 mile car trips with her.

If you want to hear interviews of the same type of people but in the more traditional interviewing style you can go to http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/.

She is admittedly way outside the box and intends to stay that way. She basically said if you don't her style, don't listen. She does not intend to change it despite all the negative criticism. There is a growing base of people who tune in.

I've seen no comments so far on how she said she uses a method which throws people off their rehearsed track that you can hear in a multitude of other interviews. She engages the emotional body, which accesses the heart, and gets to information other interviewers have never accessed.

I must say I find the interrupting very uncomfortable as it pushes us outside the expected norm. Now that I've heard more information about the why of it I can listen with different ears and be less annoyed by it.

Anyone else have any comments down this track?

[franciejones]

Ok Karen. Please do not take offense as I am asking you sincerely...

Did you really see what transpired as a "style?"

So many many many saw it as Kerry pushing her opinion and trying to get Greer to agree that he was wrong.

In the past year, PC has been being "questioned" by many for kerrys style AND some other issues. This is not a "one time incident".

I only ask as I definitely DO see many people here who are VERY kind and loving and I am voicing my views as a way to protect people I feel may be vulnerable. It is not my job to do this ( I know I am no savior). I react only on a personal level to this type of thing. Please respond if you can.

[Northern Boy]

She is admittedly way outside the box and intends to stay that way.

Hi Karen

My biggest fault with her is her style and she does not plan on changing it may very well be the part that causes whistleblowers to look for some one else to get their message out . She jumps all over the place interrupting and taking the person to other things that they could get to later with out ever letting her finish what they were originally talking about


You could equate it to starting to read a book at page one then jumping to the end then the middle and then back to the start . It doesn`t work there is no flow to it . It makes her look like she is totally unprepared or lost . There is no format followed and anyone could do it that way from off the street with no education or experience all they would have to do is go online and research the person they wanted to interview and bang give them a camera

There is a growing base of people who tune in.

There is also a growing number of people many who have been here a long time who all of a sudden left without stating any specific reason as to why they left . It may or may not have some thing to do with this . But it just seems strange that many people who had been here for a long time decided its time to leave . For what ever reason who knows it is apparent that there are a number of faces here now that were here before it went subscription and that left and are now back again that is good for the forum but the voices we have lost will take time to replace

[Phtha]

I just finished listening to the radio address and I thought it was a fair response from both Bill and Kerry.

Everything Kerry said about Greer in the radio address should also apply to Camelot, because the fact is none of us really know 100% one way or the other if a hidden agenda is in play from either party. This is the view I have always taken when watching this stuff, I guess this is why I don't get so emotional over the latest interview.


I don't consider Kerry's method as a style so much, and this is why I have always enjoyed many of the camelot videos. Camelot is unconventional and I always felt a more down to earth quality in the videos then the typically farmed feel you get from pretty much anywhere else.

I think the ones who disagree with this latest interview are voicing their opinions much more then the ones who have no problem with it. If I were to bet, I would place my money on the belief that the majority of people enjoyed the interview.

No offense francie but if I may make an observation, it seems to me you and others have jumped from one pole to the other concerning your personally views with Camelot, passing straight over the balanced viewpoint that exists in the center. There are more people then you give credit for that will not allow themselves to be so easily steered down a false direction as you seem to think. Maybe Kerry is right and Greer really is working for the greys, does anyone know for sure? Can you prove it one way or the other? Maybe the opposite is true, its important to not take one side or the other until we can prove it 100%.

Oh what a great game we are all playing here on Earth, that is one thing I do know. :thumb_yello:



Ok Karen. Please do not take offense as I am asking you sincerely...

Did you really see what transpired as a "style?"

I only ask as I definitely DO see many people here who are VERY kind and loving and I am voicing my views as a way to protect people I feel may be vulnerable. It is not my job to do this ( I know I am no savior). I react only on a personal level to this type of thing. Please respond if you can.

[Anchor]

Please respond if you can.

Why ?

It is fine to make the observations, but when it descends into a circular argument what is acheived?

I see your point of view (can't avoid it ;) ), but that is what it is.

I don't think anyone will be changing Kerry by lobbying any time soon.

Whether it be right or wrong is not the point. I think Myplanet2 said it well earlier except I don't see PC/PA collapsing - just changing. It has done that since its inception.

A..

[Karen]

Ok Karen. Please do not take offense as I am asking you sincerely...

Did you really see what transpired as a "style?"

So many many many saw it as Kerry pushing her opinion and trying to get Greer to agree that he was wrong.

In the past year, PC has been being "questioned" by many for kerrys style AND some other issues. This is not a "one time incident".

I only ask as I definitely DO see many people here who are VERY kind and loving and I am voicing my views as a way to protect people I feel may be vulnerable. It is not my job to do this ( I know I am no savior). I react only on a personal level to this type of thing. Please respond if you can.

Style? Oh please let's not get into nitpicking words. What would you call it? I could spend 5 hours trying to write a couple of paragraphs while consulting a thesaurus to make sure I get as close as 100% accuracy as possible. I take far too long as it is trying to be perfect.

Right, absolutely, it is not a one time incident. It is a pattern for which she has received constant "constructive" criticism. I think, but I could be wrong, Kerry and Bill used the 2 hours of this radio program to try to put to rest the idea that any outside influence is going to make Kerry change her - how about "method." It was very plain and clear - it's not going to happen, and I've heard her say many times in various situations, in essence, if you don't like it, leave.

OK, now I get it - I was asking in mod chat if anyone knew the backstory to the attitude of your postings. It's about "protecting" the kind and tender hearts from the wounding (or what would you call it, betrayal?) that you felt. Yes, I used to try to do that too. But then I realized, the very best lessons I have ever learned were from making my own decisions about where to go and who to believe, etc. and then finding out I'd been tricked or abused or whatever. Nobody can tell you from their "bad" experiences what you learn from actually experiencing it yourself. These "bad" and truly horrific, from my viewpoint, life experiences, when I turned around and looked back on them were the biggest steps "upward" in my entire life.

I thought - wow - why do you, Karen, want to protect people from learning their best life lessons that they came here to learn? Who do you think you are to try to deprive people of that?

Karen

[Karen]

A lot of us feel that Kerry owes Dr Greer an apology really..... tell her to read the comments on UTube.

Yes, they said in the interview that they had seen the record-breaking (their record) 2000 or so comments on Youtube. They also said it's not going to change anything and suggested
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/ if you want the more traditional format.

Kerry also said across the board, they have become very good friends with many of the people they interview - so they must be doing something right.

As far as owing apologies ... how many times can I count where I thought someone owed me one, but it was never forthcoming. There comes a time to just let it go ...

Love is who we are,
Karen

[Seashore]

I didn't listen to the whole interview but I heard Kerry talk about her passion for the truth. That was music to my ears!

:thumb_yello:

[Karen]

There is also a growing number of people many who have been here a long time who all of a sudden left without stating any specific reason as to why they left . It may or may not have some thing to do with this . But it just seems strange that many people who had been here for a long time decided its time to leave . For what ever reason who knows it is apparent that there are a number of faces here now that were here before it went subscription and that left and are now back again that is good for the forum but the voices we have lost will take time to replace

I have been hosting and participating in Yahoo discussion groups for - around 10 years - and the only constant is change. People come, people go. People get busy with other facets of their life or they cop an attitude and split.

When someone announces they are leaving - communicating with them will often spur them to change their mind. It's worth a try. I usually don't do that anymore - I just let them go. I decided the best attitude to take is to marvel in the way things change and develop and grow. Observe how a branch will die off and 5 more sprout out ... living and life are change. Stagnant is death, dying, a downward spiral.

It is sad when someone you like leaves ... mourn it, feel it, go through those stages of grief, then move on. Look > new doors open, wow, what is in there?

[lindabaker]

Greer has provided funding to a number of inventors initially thought to be promising who have failed to produce results. I don't think their criteria for deciding who to fund have worked very well. Most of the inventors have a poor understanding of why what they did works, and can't produce new versions with reproducable plans because they don't understand why the old one worked. The inventors tend to be difficult to work with. There are a number of inventors who won't work with Greer because of legal aspects of the contracts he wants them to work under. Besides which, it's a difficult problem to solve in the first place. I think Greer has sunk a lot of time, money, and effort into this, and has thought a lot about how to get the invention out to the world if one of the inventors ever succedes. It's not just a matter of getting something to work a little bit. Greer won't go public until he has a proven reproducable device with a useful energy output.

Not true. There are proven reproducable devices. Whom do you work for?

[Karen]

My biggest fault with her is her style and she does not plan on changing it may very well be the part that causes whistleblowers to look for some one else to get their message out . She jumps all over the place interrupting and taking the person to other things that they could get to later with out ever letting her finish what they were originally talking about

You could equate it to starting to read a book at page one then jumping to the end then the middle and then back to the start . It doesn`t work there is no flow to it . It makes her look like she is totally unprepared or lost . There is no format followed and anyone could do it that way from off the street with no education or experience all they would have to do is go online and research the person they wanted to interview and bang give them a camera

I admit it, I've been aggravated by every thought you enumerate. I've found the interrupting absolutely maddening. Yes, the jumping around, oh my! And man, that girl needs to get a list of questions and guide the guest through in a logical order. What is this chaos? And then I've experienced certain "change points".

A big change point for me was (I think at Vilcabamba) when Bill said, speaking from experience, something to the effect of, you don't put a leash on Kerry. My irritation while listening to "interviews" or "conversations" from then on decreased by about 50%. How many times in my life have I let someone "put a leash" on me? Gotta admit those were some real low points.

What am trying to say? What have I learned in 57 earth years? Don't stay stuck ... move on ... when you (anyone) come to this moot point, vector a change in your attitude or stay stuck in irritation. It's a choice.

[Myplanet2]

I'm sorry Karen, but Kerry's rude communication style isn't a plus, no matter how you slice it. How can Kerry get a better interview out of someone by continually cutting them off mid thought? Several times in the Greer interview, I was very attentively waiting for him to finish stringing together a well composed answer or explanation, only to have Kerry come charging into the middle of his communication. This is just bad communication.

Nobody thinks anyone else belongs on a leash. It's one thing to be determined and focused. It's another to bulldoze over others because you have control issues. That is not an admirable trait. It's a mental defect. One I've seen Kerry admit to, and Bill mention.

She has a problem and limited future in her chosen profession. What whistelblower with half a brain will go near her after seeing her rip up people like Greer? :shocked:

[Northern Boy]

vector a change in your attitude or stay stuck in irritation

Hi Karen

From what I must understand by this portion of your post is that it would be easier for me and thousands of others to change our attitude about what we are watching . What you are asking me to do is the same thing I and many others are asking Kerry to do. Would it be easier to affect this change in one or would it be easier to do it to thousands


It is like I said In my last post her refusal to alter her technique will bring about the downfall of the interview process . If people can not get their story across in the manner they see fit , because you have to understand it is their story, without interruption and Kerry chasing the story all over the place with out structure fewer and fewer people are going to come forward to her to get their stories out they will look else where


Lets hope she is reading these comments and understands that we are not a lynch mob calling for her head . Just treat your guests with respect and let them give you what they have. There is time at the end to ask questions and go into areas you want to touch on before the interview ends . Remember the people being interviewed may like to give you their information in a structured manner so it sounds like as tory not just a bunch of ramblings . She needs to take that into consideration .

[Christo888]

Oh my God... what have all you people been smoking!!!!!!
:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_ lol:

If Kerry wants to interview someone her way and no one likes her style then who gives a shft.

Actually, go start your own project and interview people!!!!!

Project Camelot and Project Avalon are private ventures, take what you like and leave the rest.

I want to hear about everyone of you interviewing people and posting videos of that interview for the whole world to see... Please be sure and start a dedicated thread just for your interview and maintain an open dialogue for us to post on.

Kerry can learn her own lessons or gain great strides in unfolding her own personal potential!!!!:sweatdrop:

OR

Everyone here knows where the door is and don't let it hit you too hard on the way out!!!!!

[Northern Boy]

Bravo 888:lmao:

[Steve_A]

Hi Christo888,

Although your comments in principle are right, the situation isn't that cut and dry in this case.

I'm not too sure that most of the comments here are a complaint against a 'company' as such, but more of a dissapointment of a perception.

Bill and Kerry have been known to interview people to get their voice out. Listening to the Mr. Xs of this world, or giving space to Dan Burisch, George Green in fact have a whole host of interviews of the 'traditional' opinion makers and so called 'whistleblowers'. It is this flavour, for want of a better word, that the followers of Camelot have come to be familiar.

Recently, however, there appears to be two things happening.

Firstly, ambiguous interviews being made, like the one of the woman who claimed to be a military nurse and had important new information about 9 / 11 where she couldn't give not one clear detail about where she got the 'information' from, or this recent interview about to be published with Pete Peterson, who states that "some abductee implant technology is definitely "not from anyone I know of here on this planet".". I mean from this quote I can only assume that this guy knows everybody on this planet, or if he doesn't he at least knows everybody who is giving abductee implants away. This sort of thing tends to drive people away.

Secondly, the calling out of a respected (love him or hate him) member of one of the higher level UFO type person kind of thing was a definite no no. It seems to be the mode these days that the Camelot site has been involved in these sort of things. Camelot was never like this.

I think to make a video interview and then having to make a one hour explanation in a radio broadcast as to justify how the interview was conducted must surely mean that the interview was not one of the most clear nor successful.

The Greer interview was only part of a few, for me, strange actions from Kerry over the last few weeks - when I say strange, I don't mean freaky or wierd, but actions that I wouldn't have expected.

So, I'm not sure that people are complaining of the service as such, so much so that if the service was always bad there would be no customers, but the contrast of what they have come to accept as the norm and what has been going on recently.

Best regards,

Steve




Oh my God... what have all you people been smoking!!!!!!
:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_ lol:

If Kerry wants to interview someone her way and no one likes her style then who gives a ****.

Actually, go start your own project and interview people!!!!!.....

[TraineeHuman]

It seems to me that Kerry’s interviewing “style” or “method” involves making lateral jumps to whatever seems (to her) the most important. I say that’s using true logic, as distinct from the “textbook logic” of being systematic and very “rational”. By “true logic” I mean putting what’s important first – putting first things first. Usually, Kerry manages to get disclosure of some of the most important details by doing this. And we greatly appreciate her for that, when it works. I’m not sure if she did that much with Greer, though. Certainly, it looks like she could have gotten more by being considerably more detached from her personality and ego in this case. Also, surely it's obvious that the overall "frame" of an interview/etc should be rationally and coolly defined beforehand. It shouldn't be a frame of "I know I'm right". Any interview/etc only brings useful info from the interviewee to the extent to which the interviewer truly listens to whatever they are saying.

It would be great to have a long video of Kerry and Greer with a truly “neutral” moderator (referee?), and with the agreement that that moderator has the power at any point to interrupt and insist that K or G has to rephrase a comment or a point or a question in what the moderator considers a “fairer” way.

[14 Chakras]

In order to get to the truth, those who are the most 'respected' will need to be challenged and called out that's for sure.

[gscraig]

I think Steva A and MyPlanet2 first posts summarizes it best. I only want to add the following, because this has blunder written all over it.

Kerry,

Let's begin with this second interview which was indeed damage control. However, unbeknownst to you, more damage was done with this interview and the main reason why is because you de-valued your base with it's content.

An absolute no-no, is to never say to those (supporters) whom made your original initiative become what it is today to stop watching, or frequent other venues elsewhere if we disagree or want formats that makes us comfortable. I can assure you, that is a blunder that will bite you and it will usually come from those watching, but seldomly express/post via these forums. They will choose to express in silent ways. Your whistleblowers and others in the field can be in awe of you as much as they desire, but they or their message will have no value (along with Camelot) if no one is listening. It's not "entirely" about one person or style when you are reaching out to the public for the public. This cannot be defended, and for those "defenders" out there, withdraw your weapons, for through these eyes, the enemy is your own reflection.

I mentioned in my first post via the original thread that the next most professional step was to take a high road and/or apology to your supporters, instead the opposite logic was applied. The decision to make it a point to acknowledge the Disclosure Project staff offering PC an apology for their misjudgements, further accentuated their experience compared to PC's. I'm not saying that they don't have some question marks but they don't seem to be amassing as many asterisks either.

What each of us need to remember to ask while listening to all these interviews, websites, radioshows is...Are we getting any closer to Disclosure? “It is time to move beyond the continuation of information that could be fresh off the Area 51 water cooler. After all, what is that going to accomplish? Outside of us knowing some new fantastic truth (maybe) that most of us may never see, feel, hear or touch?”

Unless it's real time info (like H5n1, economy) or something that is definitely going to impact us, the messages become mundane. There are many strides and changes as Karen intimated via this thread that needs to occur and I hope this is the case. There is new territory such as state to state mobilization (e.g Park Rally's), colleges/students and university media outlets. The multiple disclosure platforms are starting to go in circles with Jerry Springer standing in the middle, and we as supporters need to expect more (including from ourselves), and not be awed or trapped by their information or effort. Create a new paradigm for Disclosure.

[KathyT]

Kerry could learn from Larry King.

Larry said one of the most notable things he learned in his broadcasting career, is to never offend the person you are interviewing... or you will quickly find out you can't get the information you want out of the interview.

Aftermath of Kerry's style will show up in other ways. Such as this very forum, where membership has dropped so significantly in the past year.

[orthodoxymoron]

In a sense...Kerry is a back-room interviewer. Perhaps interrogator would be a better word. This is actually a complement. This is how to get at the truth. But it makes most people uncomfortable.

Jokingly...perhaps there should be the stereotypical bright light...with the prisoner/guest tied to a chair! Truth serum could be administered. Kerry could pace back and forth while conducting the interrogation. Bill could stand guard with an Uzi! Just kidding...of course!

A job interview would be terrifying. A firing would be heart stopping.

We want people to make us feel good about ourselves. We want people to make us feel secure. This is how we have been put to sleep. This is why this world is out of control. When someone tries to wake us up...we don't like them. Hell...the people shouted 'crucify him!' when asked what should be done with Jesus Christ.

If Lucifer ever agrees to an interview...Kerry should be the one to do it. By the way...is this what Lucifer looks like? What is Hollywood trying to tell us? I don't know. I'm just wondering...
YouTube - "V" - Pilot Episode Clip #2 - VisitorSite.net

[Jnana]

Not true. There are proven reproducable devices.

I don't disagree with that. Bearden's MEG device is one of them. However, the people with those devices aren't working with Greer. He can't steal the inventions. He can't force someone to enter into a legal contract with him. Get it?

Whom do you work for?

What kind of question is that? I'm just sharing what I've learned by watching the Orion Project over time. If you choose to ignore me, that's fine. I'm nobody. I don't work for Greer. I write computer software.

[Jnana]

Kerry's interviewing style is not my main issue with the radio show.

The main thing to me is that she seems to have fallen deeply into the fear based paradigm and is all worried about greys and reptilians and evil alien agendas. She speculates that Greer is under the influence of the grey and reptilian agenda because he has issues with power and ego. She talks about how the nicest people will stab you in the back, and about how the evil aliens are using us like cattle to be eaten, killed, abducted, etc.

Fear, fear, and more fear. She talks about "fighting the good fight", but to me it sound like George W. Bush talking about fighting terrorism, or Ronald Reagan talking about unifying humanity with a common alien enemy. As eXchanger pointed out, this is old paradigm thinking. It feels like preparation for a false flag alien invasion.

I hope Bill and Kerry continue to dig deeper into these matters and succede at uncovering the truth. Henry Deacon talks about ETs being family. Bob Dean talks about the military determining that ETs were not a threat. Why so much focus on the negative? How about more coverage on the positive aspects of the ET presence? How about making contact yourselves? (it can be done!)

[JesterTerrestrial]

That is not an admirable trait. It's a mental defect. One I've seen Kerry admit to, and Bill mention.

Bill was about to tell a joke to start the interview but was cut off by Kerry about an update she had. hmmmm... I like to think of it as controlling the babbler in your mind...especially when your going to verbalize your thoughts. Just be careful that's all i am saying about that. At the same time...Steven was just going on and on and on... when you are speaking and can see that someone wants to interrupt you you can have some respect and stop babbling and let people ask you questions.

What whistelblower with half a brain will go near her after seeing her rip up people like Greer? :shocked:

:mfr_lol: We don't want the half brained whistle blowers...we want the full brained ones :thumb_yello:

Tesla already gave this planet free energy and look what was done to him.

[Unified Serenity]

:mfr_lol: We don't want the half brained whistle blowers...we want the full brained ones :thumb_yello:

Tesla already gave this planet free energy and look what was done to him.

:lol3: very funny Jester :lmfao:

[Unified Serenity]

I wonder what B & K's views are on Alex Collier.

[JesterTerrestrial]

I wonder what B & K's views are on Alex Collier.

Its been a while since i saw Alex's interview from 1994...but I think I recall him saying...

600 000 year long Orion wars

Sounds hostile to me.

[Unified Serenity]

OH, I'm pretty up to date on what Alex shares regarding our history, the shift, and negative ET / Reptillians etc. I just wonder what if anything B & K have had to say regarding Mr. Collier's information.

[JesterTerrestrial]

OH, I'm pretty up to date on what Alex shares regarding our history, the shift, and negative ET / Reptillians etc. I just wonder what if anything B & K have had to say regarding Mr. Collier's information.

:)

[Myplanet2]

OH, I'm pretty up to date on what Alex shares regarding our history, the shift, and negative ET / Reptillians etc. I just wonder what if anything B & K have had to say regarding Mr. Collier's information.

Hmmm. That would be more like "what does Kerry have to say about Collier's information?"

[JesterTerrestrial]

Hmmm. That would be more like "what does Kerry have to say about Collier's information?"

:naughty: aw come on now... bill gets his fair share of input on things.

[Unified Serenity]

Hmmm. That would be more like "what does Kerry have to say about Collier's information?"

I'll take one or both's opinions, thank you :original:

[Myplanet2]

Bill was about to tell a joke to start the interview but was cut off by Kerry about an update she had. hmmmm... I like to think of it as controlling the babbler in your mind...especially when your going to verbalize your thoughts. Just be careful that's all i am saying about that. At the same time...Steven was just going on and on and on... when you are speaking and can see that someone wants to interrupt you you can have some respect and stop babbling and let people ask you questions.



:mfr_lol: We don't want the half brained whistle blowers...we want the full brained ones :thumb_yello:

Tesla already gave this planet free energy and look what was done to him.

I agree that Greer can be a bit like a firehose when he talks. And I find his thinking processes well rooted in linearity. He really like to string out his thoughts in sequential, linear fashion.

But he's logical. And the higher/multi/extra dimensional allusions he made were also resonant with my understanding coming from the same place of perception.

I think Greer gets it, largely. I don't personally need anything he has on offer. I'm comfortable with my understanding of what's going on and what has gone on.

I think also that Greer is so used to having to account for what he says in linear terms of proof, evidence, show me, does that agree with others, etc., that he would have a hard time switching his presentation gears for a less restricted audience.

But the main point for me, is that Greer was trying to say something which may have been useful to many, and since many were waiting to see what he would say, he should have been given the chance to say it, even if he did painfully drag it out, and distracted some with his trowser snake, and other loud body language.

He didn't look particularly comfortable in that setting, even with out Kerry rubbing sticks together to get the caldron going.:sweatdrop:

[JesterTerrestrial]

I don't personally need anything he has on offer. I'm comfortable with my understanding of what's going on and what has gone on.

He didn't look particularly comfortable in that setting, even with out Kerry rubbing sticks together to get the caldron going.:sweatdrop:

Well said, in general I think this was a poorly set up video production and has caused some more major ripples in the community. If you listen to Kerrys take though...Greer was at first "unavailable" then just showed up and said I'm ready for an interview now. It sounds like they are all just making it up as they go.

Ah well I can get past it and I hope the rest of you readers can too. This is not Hollywood dreamworks studios. Holly Wood sticks was what the occultist magicians used to make magic wands from to cast spells on people.

This is humans waking up from a deep slumber to take their planet back from an evil force hiding in the dark using deception and trickery to enslave an entire planet into a matrix.

The statement that there are no hostile ET's is very bold and deserves some attention.

Even if it means talking over loud body language in an awkward set up.
Perhaps Mr. Greer would also like to set the record straight and arrange a second more professional interview to disclose. Maybe he just wants to talk to governments all day I don't know and i don't care. The government is still defunct for all their lies. Just because they want to disclose now dose not mean that I am going to give them any authority over me. The people of earth have forgotten what freedom is.

I got my shift together! :lmfao:

Respect,
JT

[Unified Serenity]

But the main point for me, is that Greer was trying to say something which may have been useful to many, and since many were waiting to see what he would say, he should have been given the chance to say it, even if he did painfully drag it out, and distracted some with his trowser snake, and other loud body language.

He didn't look particularly comfortable in that setting, even with out Kerry rubbing sticks together to get the caldron going.:sweatdrop:

I hear you Myplanet2, but Greer has talked and talked and talked in presentations so what could he share that would be some major bombshell? Well, he may have bombshell data, but he is not about to tell it in a pc interview / chat. No, he would not give pc any such limelight. He would do it in a solo presentation where he and project disclosure get all of the attention, so what was the interview for?

The reason he wanted to be interviewed was because of what Kerry said in the blog. He wanted to counter her comments with HIS truth, and he or his organization which for all purposes represents his thinking have apparently not been positive about PC.

Thus, anyone who was in the know of what had gone on (and wanted answers) should have expected a chat about 'good vs. bad' idea of ET's. And that is what we got. Greer definitely got to share why he thinks all ET's are good, his philosophy, and say he did not like his ideas being called insidious. Kerry managed to interject questions when she could over talk him enough to make him listen for 20 or 30 seconds and respond to her questions. I agree with the person who said that when you are speaking with someone you can tell when they want to say something, and to just keep on talking sets them up to have to interrupt you.

For psy-ops Greer did a good job at making PC look bad. Greer appeared condescending towards PC to me, showed no respect for Kerry or Bill, and I doubt he ever plans to be interviewed by PC again. He can easily say, "Look what happened the last time....." and not have to face tough questions. If someone is going to put themselves out there as some high up government contact counselor then they should expect to be questioned directly without a lot of butt kissing.

I don't know if Kerry meant to look so powerless and Horshack like to get his attention, but if so she did a good job. I would have done it much differently, but then again, I don't have my own show and I am not spending money chasing these people down and interviewing them. I am greatful for those who are.

[JesterTerrestrial]

when you are speaking with someone you can tell when they want to say something, and to just keep on talking sets them up to have to interrupt you.

Thats right and... ring ring... oh hold on.

Hello?

Good You?

Just talking to some one.

You want to get a bite to eat later...

ok...call me later

Peace.

:mfr_lol:

[Myplanet2]

Well said, in general I think this was a poorly set up video production and has caused some more major ripples in the community. If you listen to Kerrys take though...Greer was at first "unavailable" then just showed up and said I'm ready for an interview now. It sounds like they are all just making it up as they go.

Ah well I can get past it and I hope the rest of you readers can too. This is not Hollywood dreamworks studios. Holly Wood sticks was what the occultist magicians used to make magic wands from to cast spells on people.

This is humans waking up from a deep slumber to take their planet back from an evil force hiding in the dark using deception and trickery to enslave an entire planet into a matrix.

The statement that there are no hostile ET's is very bold and deserves some attention.

Even if it means talking over loud body language in an awkward set up.
Perhaps Mr. Greer would also like to set the record straight and arrange a second more professional interview to disclose. Maybe he just wants to talk to governments all day I don't know and i don't care. The government is still defunct for all their lies. Just because they want to disclose now dose not mean that I am going to give them any authority over me. The people of earth have forgotten what freedom is.

I got my shift together! :lmfao:

Respect,
JT

Respect is mutual.

I do however want to comment on this statement: "This is humans waking up from a deep slumber to take their planet back from an evil force hiding in the dark using deception and trickery to enslave an entire planet into a matrix."

I'm with you as far as "This is humans waking up from a deep slumber..." - The rest I myself take as bold an needing of some attention.

That is 100% a matter of from where one views. In 3D reality, there is no arguing it. In 5TH and above, there is no possibility of it. (4TH is just the dressing room for 5TH and above)

The last wave in support of our planetary shift, has given me the push I needed to cross the 3D threshold. I'm no longer primarily a 3D critter. I'm more than half out of this soup. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone, or even good, or even not an A**hole. I'm not saying anything except stating the fact that the available energies have made it possible for me to recognize my existence beyond 3D. And it changes everything in how you view reality.

There is only one place where the idea of anybody doing anything TO anyone else is possible, and that's 3D. That idea can't exist in higher dimensions. 3D is the only playground for polarity. In higher dimensions, it means something completely different, and at the highest, all is one, and loving unity is all there is, even if simultaneous play at lower levels of existence can be experienced and viewed as separate (and opposed).

What I was happy to hear, and what I wished to hear more about from Greer, is what lead him to his conclusions about the non-polarized existence beyond. That good and bad were anthropocentric projections (true) and that unconditional love was our ticket outta here. That was unfortunately lost in the stampede.

[JesterTerrestrial]

Respect is mutual.

I do however want to comment on this statement: "This is humans waking up from a deep slumber to take their planet back from an evil force hiding in the dark using deception and trickery to enslave an entire planet into a matrix."

I'm with you as far as "This is humans waking up from a deep slumber..." - The rest I myself take as bold an needing of some attention.

That is 100% a matter of from where one views. In 3D reality, there is no arguing it. In 5TH and above, there is no possibility of it. (4TH is just the dressing room for 5TH and above)

The last wave in support of our planetary shift, has given me the push I needed to cross the 3D threshold. I'm no longer primarily a 3D critter. I'm more than half out of this soup. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone, or even good, or even not an A**hole. I'm not saying anything except stating the fact that the available energies have made it possible for me to recognize my existence beyond 3D. And it changes everything in how you view reality.

There is only one place where the idea of anybody doing anything TO anyone else is possible, and that's 3D. That idea can't exist in higher dimensions. 3D is the only playground for polarity. In higher dimensions, it means something completely different, and at the highest, all is one, and loving unity is all there is, even if simultaneous play at lower levels of existence can be experienced and viewed as separate (and opposed).

What I was happy to hear, and what I wished to hear more about from Greer, is what lead him to his conclusions about the non-polarized existence beyond. That good and bad were anthropocentric projections (true) and that unconditional love was our ticket outta here. That was unfortunately lost in the stampede.

Interesting... I will give this some deep thought today...thanks MP2! Have a great day. JT

[TraineeHuman]

On the one hand, we have the most knowledgeable ET experts, such as Dr Steven Greer and Dr Richard Boylan, plus some of PC’s most reliable witnesses, including Bob Dean and Arthur Neumann (Henry Deacon). They all categorically state – do they not? -- that they know for a fact that all the ET visitors are benevolent – with perhaps the exception of ones who are human (maybe from the future or possible future?) or else strictly human creations such as PLFs, or demonic entities summoned in by humans. On the other hand, we have the recent video clip from Pete Peterson. He certainly doesn’t say for sure that he knows any of them are hostile. So what does he say? He says that if we trust Linda Moulton-Howe’s word for it, then some of them must be hostile.

I’m sure Ms Moulton-Howe has done some very good and thorough research over the years. However, with all due respect personally I happen to have some possible reservations regarding what implicit belief system somebody might perhaps have who starts a thread entitled: Alien Abductions Stopped by the name of Jesus Christ? Even with the question mark at the end, I may have reservations. This is because I have some experience many years ago of carrying out what could be called exorcisms. Since I’m a natural psychic healer, I thought an extension of this was to “do exorcisms” kind of in imitation of what Jesus was said to have done in the Bible. So I do have some past experience of getting rid of demonic entities etc. (Though today I would insist on using psychotherapy.) One thing I discovered, for instance, was that the name of Jesus Christ only works with those entities who themselves believe in Jesus Christ. Others who have done exorcisms have made the same discovery, among others.

There are two areas which I believe Richard Dolan didn’t mention during his radio interview last week. One is that of the existence of intergalactic governments. I don’t understand how a researcher like him would fail to deduce that they must exist, and that they exercise power benevolently. Then again, I haven’t read his book yet. It seems to me the evidence is quite overwhelming that they do exist. Related to this is the high probability that some of the benevolent ET visitors act like a police force to enforce the quarantine on this planet and to ensure the hostile ones stay out or get evicted. (I believe I know there are far more benevolent entities – many of them not in physical form – than there are humans living on the planet. Think of how ultra-thorough, how organised, that implies they must be, given that they’re all super-intelligent, and super-evolved spiritually.) The second area Richard Dolan didn’t mention in his interview was knowledge gained by direct telepathy or clairvoyance. OK, I do appreciate that only about 5% or 10% of professional clairvoyants and of chanellers are accurate. The rest provide information which overall is totally unreliable. That's a fact! But I’m told by the most accurate psychics that I fall into that 5 to 10%, for example. So people like me do also have a different means for uncovering what is the truth.

Actually, I believe intergalactic law would give humans from future timelines, even from possible future timelines, some strictly limited permission to entangle themselves with us humans now. That’s under extreme circumstances, such as if their biological survival was in dire threat. But the intergalactic governments and the guardian angels would give this extra attention and policing. It’s could only become a problem because of actions by humans. Those humans – or, rather, their policies -- are the problem, not the ETs.

“The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars but in ourselves.” -- Shakespeare

[Jnana]

What I was happy to hear, and what I wished to hear more about from Greer, is what lead him to his conclusions about the non-polarized existence beyond. That good and bad were anthropocentric projections (true) and that unconditional love was our ticket outta here. That was unfortunately lost in the stampede.

From the description of Greer's August 14 radio show on the World Puja Network:


Conventional wisdom sets up a good ET/bad ET paradigm. Let's look at the truth of this view: where it came from and where it will lead us.



This is available in the World Puja Network archives now here:

http://www.worldpuja.org/archives/2009-08-14/

"Angels don't need flying saucers, and for that matter, neither do demons."

"Who benefits from the fear and the hatred that is generated from that fear?"

"We have to be better than that and find a new way of thinking."

"Stay in a positive frame of mind. Question the agendas that are making this kind of fear and division."

Greer goes into considerable detail on why he thinks there are no hostile ETs, but admits repeatedly that there is no way to prove it. He talks at length about programs designed to create the good ET/bad ET mindset in the population as the basis for establishing a planetary military government in order to go to war in space. Much more. Well worth a listen by anyone interested in the good ET/bad ET issue.

[14 Chakras]

oops edit

[Jnana]

14 Chakras, those were just some random quotes I pulled out of the interview to give people an idea of what's in it. They weren't meant to be any kind of point-by-point summary of the presentation, nor is it my job to defend them. I'll let the presentation speak for itself.

[NancyV]

The Greer video was enjoyable although I found myself annoyed at Kerry's interruptions and her emphasizing over and over their differences in how they view the ET agenda and/or presence here on earth. I was somewhat drawn to Steven Greer and influenced by his view that although he can't PROVE it, he feels it's best to believe ET's are benevolent. Even though I KNOW they are not by any means all benevolent, I found myself almost hypnotized by Greer's loving and benevolent outlook.

I have previously seen many of Steven Greer's videos and felt there was something strange, or missing, and what he is doing is playing down certain information, perhaps in an attempt to not look so far out that he won't be able to deal with the political and military complex. That seems to be a cop out to me. But I was mesmerized in the first part of the recent PC video and when Kerry began interrupting it was annoying to me.

Now, after listening to the excellent radio show with Kerry and Bill, I see that I misjudged Kerry and my reaction was a knee-jerk one. So thanks to Kerry and Bill for doing the radio show as a follow up to the interview with Steven Greer. I now see that not only are Steven Greers statements about ET's all being benevolent very "insidious, irresponsible and dangerous", (to quote both Bill and Kerry) but I understand why his views appeal so much to aware, evolved people who know that love and benevolence are high vibrational stances and also powerful weapons in certain vibrational frequencies. We like to think we can deal with all humans and other beings with love.

We are here in 3D though, and sometimes we must do battle or we choose to do battle in this arena. I am grateful that Kerry is doing battle for so many who cannot or will not fight for themselves. She is attempting to ferret out the TRUTH, not to have a career as a professional interviewer! She is also not here to win friends and influence people, in my opinion. All I can say is, GOOD FOR HER! I very much admire her warrior spirit and I'm glad that her tactics shook me out of the trance I was starting to get into when listening to Steven Greer.

Yes, I can still be influenced for a time by someone's charisma and energy, and I'm generally a lousy judge of character because I usually like everyone, so I can't afford to trust anyone because of this propensity of mine.

Undoubtedly there are benevolent beings here on earth, but I know for a fact there are MANY hostile beings here also. For Steven Greer to downplay, ignore or refute this is highly suspicious. Could it be completely through ignorance? I think not. He has spoken to so many government/military whistleblowers I'm sure at least SOME of them have told him the real truth. Why is he ignoring this?

That is a much more important question than "why did Kerry interrupt him so much"! The fact that she and Bill attacked his statements was extremely valuable to all of us humans. How many times have we been led down a misdirected rosy path by someone claiming peace and love! We must be suspicious or at least very cautious when evaluating anyone who is hugely charismatic and uses those traits to influence others to their point of view.

I very much appreciate Bill and Kerry. They make a great team and it takes a strong, secure man like Bill to not feel at all threatened or emasculated by Kerry. I admire Bill for supporting Kerry and recognizing the huge value of her tactics. I don't care if she goes overboard sometimes. What she does is very valuable for all of us, those who like her and those who don't like her.

Nancy

[orthodoxymoron]

I guess I like the idea of having an internal World War III of conflicting concepts...and then formulating simple and polite questions which cause the person being interviewed to reveal as much as possible. If they are hiding something or doing something improper...let them hang themselves...rather than lynching them...figuratively speaking.

Leading people down the primrose path can be just as dangerous as fear mongering. Just tell people the truth in a tactful and balanced manner. Is 'national security' really 'alien nation security'...rather than our security...much of the time? The people need to be told the truth about everything...even if the facts are highly upsetting and depressing. My guess is that the full truth about ufo's/aliens/spirits/etc will be difficult to deal with. It seems as though we are in an introductory disclosure phase at this time. What we have been exposed to thus far would have to have been authorized by some very high level PTB types...I would think. They are probably carefully watching the reactions/responses around the globe...to determine how to proceed with further disclosure...which will most likely continue to be unofficial. Camelot and Avalon are a significant part of this process...I would think. Official statements will probably be spin and damage control. Just my hunch. I could be very wrong. No one...not even corrupt elites...want to be slaves of an alien race. I keep thinking that a lot of them are in over their heads...and are in to this thing way too deep...and want to bail...but don't know how.

I'm waiting for a discussion of 'Rich ET/Poor ET'. Who's your daddy?