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no caste
09-06-2009, 06:06 PM
Obama adviser quits over 9/11 comments

Van Jones has been embroiled in a controversy over past inflammatory statements that suggested a government role in the 2001 terror attacks
Washington — The Associated Press Last updated on Sunday, Sep. 06, 2009 01:30PM EDT
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/obama-adviser-quits-over-911-comments/article1277838/

Mr. Jones, an administration official specializing in environmentally friendly “green jobs” with the White House Council on Environmental Quality was linked to efforts suggesting a government role in the 2001 terror attacks and to derogatory comments about Republicans...

The matter surfaced after news reports of a derogatory comment Mr. Jones made in the past about Republicans, and separately, of Mr. Jones's name appearing on a petition connected to the events surrounding the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. That 2004 petition had asked for congressional hearings and other investigations into whether high-level government officials had allowed the attacks to occur.

mntruthseeker
09-06-2009, 06:10 PM
Mr Jones made millions off the cash for clunkers program he kicked off. I dont feel sorry for him

In fact he did a letter along with Cynthia McKinnley whom I admired for speaking out against 9/11 and the video she put out for the killings of over 3000 prisoners after Katrina.

I get confused with my thoughts over these type of reports because my heart goes with theirs on certain subjects

no caste
09-06-2009, 06:30 PM
Well, I was just posting it as an example of one guy. He's not the only one.

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New Evidence of Saudi Role In 9/11 Attacks
Julkaistu 2009-07-15 ¬ 07:31h.
Because of the legal battles being waged by the families of victims of the 9/11 attacks, court proceedings have forced disclosure of files previously denied or redacted by the Bush Administration Justice Department, and 9/11 Commission.
http://911.olotila.net/uutiset/2009/07/15/new-evidence-of-saudi-role-in-911-attacks/

Worldwide 9/11 Petition
Posted on May 12, 2009 by JF Ranger
WORLDWIDE PETITION FOR A NEW INDEPENDENT 9/11 INVESTIGATION
TO THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND
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http://world911truth.org/worldwide-911-petition/

Court Says 9/11 Witnesses Can Sue Ashcroft
Former Student Filed Lawsuit Claiming Civil Rights Were Violated
Posted: September 4, 2009 - KIROTV.com
A federal appeals court has ruled that former Attorney General John Ashcroft may be held liable for people who were wrongfully detained as material witnesses after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
http://www.911truth.org/

Wargames Were Cover For the Operational Execution of 9/11
Cheney: "The orders still stand" as Flight 77 approaches the Pentagon with no action taken to defend it
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911/norad.htm

Obama Latest Appointment Linked to Stonebridge LLC and TRAITOR Sandy Berger
Evidence stolen by Berger from the U.S. National Archives on this subject also dealt with a meeting in November of 2001 between Teleki and Databu in which U.S. Treasury bills were used to bribe Databu, who was a representative of CIA asset Tim Osman aka Osama bin Laden, for the purpose of bin Laden playing the role of 9/11 patsy.
http://www.stewwebb.com/obama_latest_appointment_linked_to_stonebridge_and _traitor_sandy_berger.htm

Global Hawk drones at the Pentagon?
Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1aBFbyN7xY

etc.

mntruthseeker
09-06-2009, 06:47 PM
I am aware of that myself. I just wonder what I can say on here. I don't trust this site any longer.

I have researched Obama more than I have any other person in my life. I had a need to know. He swept me off my feet with his sweet talking before he came out and said he was running and I wasn't sure I cared for that.

I wanted clinton for president, shows what an idiot I was LOL LOL

anyhow, I used to put how I admired some of the people but my mind has changed quite a bit in the past months. Now its spinning out of control again.

no caste
09-06-2009, 06:59 PM
The people in government are no different from you or me, except maybe with unique temptations, flamboyant personalities, whatnot. Not all. A political system is as good, bad and ugly as the people in it or pulling their strings. It's kind of like the Nuremberg Defense (http://www.google.ca/search?q=nuremberg+defense&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a).

I'm always waiting for someone to flic the bic on this :naughty:

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mntruthseeker
09-06-2009, 07:15 PM
I think we all are waiting, watching and anticipating that day

Anchor
09-06-2009, 10:02 PM
I don't trust this site any longer.

Interesting comment. I am pleased, because I dont think you should trust any site, not just this one.

The truth will set you free but first it will p155 you off.

A..

mntruthseeker
09-06-2009, 11:02 PM
thank you your opinion is valued

dagon
09-07-2009, 12:47 AM
I am aware of that myself. I just wonder what I can say on here. I don't trust this site any longer.

I have researched Obama more than I have any other person in my life. I had a need to know. He swept me off my feet with his sweet talking before he came out and said he was running and I wasn't sure I cared for that.

I wanted clinton for president, shows what an idiot I was LOL LOL

anyhow, I used to put how I admired some of the people but my mind has changed quite a bit in the past months. Now its spinning out of control again.

I feel you. I ebb and flow myself. and trust is always an issue. especially when treason is what's being served.

its frustration how opinionated the public are on such topics. without even questioning anything or researching. I ask everybody I know and 90% have no interest in researching 911 and don't care. don't want to hear it. lol.. now that's disturbing. with all that has happened in history. jfk, ww2, just keep me working and leave me alone. LOL.. I stupefied. its like there not human. LOL. did these people sleep next to pods and get replaced. what planet am I on? I cant believe it. somebody pinch me. dont even want to know about the facts.

I want to believe that this is going to get blown out in the open and some heads are going to roll. but history has shown this wont be the case. if love and goodness are prevailing here on earth.. Im not seeing it. having a hard time keeping positive. with the earthlings.. running a muck. :tears: breaks my heart.

sure wish somebody in office would have a backbone and not fold under the pressure.

mntruthseeker
09-07-2009, 01:39 AM
same here

Its always been something that I needed to do. My husband says I read too much and shouldn't believe all the BS. He is right because I wear myself out but I can't stop.

I need to know. with Obama, it was a must because I was pretty sure he was going to win the peoples hearts and he did.

Not so much anymore. The younger college crowd love him. They hang unto the "hope" and I just dont know. I do not want him to let any of us down.

All I know something will happen soon and then we wont have to keep guessing, will we?

we just have to keep praying

swordsmith
09-07-2009, 08:27 AM
Don't give up, all the information you absorb and evaluate as true or false is being appreciated in the outer realms. Those that discern are beacons of truth, and even if you can not know this for sure or see the effect you have for broadcasting this, it is MUCH appreciated,.... or so I am told.
It's mostly a lonely and arduous path, that's why one meets so few along the way, but it makes the friends on the journey easy to spot, so I guess that's something.
Yup, pod people just about sums it up. I can not believe I live in a world where people can not SEE chemtrails overhead every effing day for god's sake,and yup, they don't care either. But they still wonder why the weather is so ****.

oh dear, did I just ruin my cheering up?
anyway, there is no choice here but to keep at it, may as well do our best.

The 911 truth movement IS gathering momentum, and it is even potentially useful this guy has quit, it adds to the big ball of wax, dontcha think?

Someone smart once told me people are way too traumatised to get much of what's going on out there, so I sort of count myself lucky. Which is sometimes a bit of a turd sandwich, even worse, I've got a taste for it now.

mntruthseeker
09-07-2009, 01:57 PM
you put that very nicely, or did you? I do understand what you are saying and then in itself is freaky

I think the truth movement is something else. I actually thought about them last night as I laid in bed wondering how this will be carried over in the history books.

I say it is the end of this world as we have known it and it takes the giant leap into the new world our creator meant it to be.

Not exactly what they expect. we are stronger than they thought

orthodoxymoron
09-07-2009, 02:22 PM
I presently want congressional hearings into all of the wars, assassinations, terrorism, economic collapses, etc. in the entire history of the United States. I have a sneaking suspicion that they all have common perpetrators.

It would not surprise me if 9/11 was ordered by Lucifer...and carried out by a multinational compartmentalized team. The full truth might cause a global meltdown of sorts...but we seem to be heading toward that anyway. We might as well get all of the truth out...take our lumps as a civilization...and then move on.

I don't trust any website, guru, phoneline, 'secure' internet or 'secure' communication of any kind whatsoever. We live in a haunted and bug infested planet. Our lives are open books. They're cracking down on us...while the rich and powerful crooks do whatever the hell they want.

Do I sound bitter? :lol3:

By the way...I think the 99th monkey just joined Team Goodguys. Be afraid Team Badguys. Be VERY afraid. The horror.

no caste
09-07-2009, 02:48 PM
ROCK THE PLANET!! SIGN A 9/11 TRUTH PETITION!! HEY, IT'S A CAMPAIGN!!
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no caste
09-07-2009, 03:04 PM
Flic your bic!!!

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Connecting with Sauce
09-07-2009, 04:00 PM
Which is sometimes a bit of a turd sandwich....

I'm glad I gave up bread :D part of my detox vegan diet I'm on...

It is amazing what you discover isn't it. On my Health quest... I've found out our livers have loads of stones in them and for the last two weekends I've been flushing mine out!! A bit gross for some... but I say better out than in :D

I just hope all the stuff we research comes out eventually because people think I'm mad :D... but I don't care to be honest I know my truth...

Humble Janitor
09-08-2009, 02:14 AM
Kind of odd that Van Jones sounds like a guy that we'd want on our side (his thoughts/actions re:9/11) but instead, Cash For Clunkers and comments about Republicans take the forefront.

It has to be the anti-Obama bias that gets in the way and refuses to allow people to see that some people are not as cut-and-dry as they think.

But, that's to be expected from the media and the masses. Here on Avalon, we're usually better than that.

Unified Serenity
09-08-2009, 03:48 AM
I feel you. I ebb and flow myself. and trust is always an issue. especially when treason is what's being served.

its frustration how opinionated the public are on such topics. without even questioning anything or researching. I ask everybody I know and 90% have no interest in researching 911 and don't care. don't want to hear it. lol.. now that's disturbing. with all that has happened in history. jfk, ww2, just keep me working and leave me alone. LOL.. I stupefied. its like there not human. LOL. did these people sleep next to pods and get replaced. what planet am I on? I cant believe it. somebody pinch me. dont even want to know about the facts.

I want to believe that this is going to get blown out in the open and some heads are going to roll. but history has shown this wont be the case. if love and goodness are prevailing here on earth.. Im not seeing it. having a hard time keeping positive. with the earthlings.. running a muck. :tears: breaks my heart.

sure wish somebody in office would have a backbone and not fold under the pressure.

The people are waking up. That's why they had the closed secret session of congress. They are afraid of what We the People will do to them once we realize what they have done to us! They are all buying land in South America to run and hide from us. It won't help them.

orthodoxymoron
09-08-2009, 05:43 AM
They can run away...but they can't hide! It's a rat-race...and the rats are still winning...but soon the bright lights will be turned on...and they'll all be running! Time to set the rat-traps!