Flushing the Liver of the toxic stones within... [Archive]

Connecting with Sauce

09-12-2009, 09:30 PM

Ok I've mentioned this on a number of threads so I thought I'd post this with the help from my friend in Amsterdam. I'm on my 3rd (now) flush and my friend who runs the anno70.nl website has completed his 5th flush...

To summarise what is in the book... effectively when you body gets toxic it starts to degenerate and age faster... and your immune function is lower.

These two clips are worth watching for liver function...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67ZRYUKjgfM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNtzvutQ9CE&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1iDI5eY7wU&feature=related

I suggest you read the book from Andreas' Moritz it is in my mine one of if not the best £7 I spent on health for a book (amazon).

It is painless and only involves diet changes and liver salts...

I am obviously not a doctor but when I see hundreds of stones come out of me as it says in the book I think wow!!!

I've now passed ~350 stones... and tomorrow I expect to pass a load more.

I do recommend the book Liver-Gallbladder-Miracle-Cleanse-All-natural (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Liver-Gallbladder-Miracle-Cleanse-All-natural/dp/1569756066/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c)

5 days of apple juice and a vegan diet and some colon cleansing and salts and oliveoil/grapefuit shot and pop pop pop... the stones come out over a few hours...

I do recommmend the book so I will not put the full process here but e-mail me directly if anyone wants the process.

Would people like to see pictures of the stones? :D

Gotta go the epsom salts are kicking in....

ps one of these is essential and £9 well spent :)
http://www.e-enema.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=34&products_id=28&osCsid=20a10a6e1319b01393938e440e9c0d78

mntruthseeker

09-12-2009, 09:51 PM

very interesting

Kulapops

09-13-2009, 02:00 AM

One word. Wow !

Or is that three?

Way to go, yes, we'll all need to be super healthy soon :original:

I'd be interested to know more about the liver and colon cleansing. I did a rice fast a few years ago (longest 12 days I ever spent!)

More recently I was so impressed by Raymond Francis' book, 'Never be sick again' that I've changed my diet fairly radically, have lost about a stone since April (bout 8/9 Kg) and feel much healthier. - and that was really a side effect, as it's not a diet book, rather more about nutrition. the China Study by Colin Campell is equally gripping.

So yes, my next port of call was the liver/colon cleanse.

As I'm still getting my head around what I need to do for an enema :mfr_omg:, maybe we'll tackle the liver first.

Is passing the stones painful?

Peace n Love

K

Gnosis5

09-13-2009, 02:38 AM

Any info on how to flush synthetic estrogens out of the liver?

Gnosis5

09-13-2009, 02:40 AM

Ok I've mentioned this on a number of threads so I thought I'd post this with the help from my friend in Amsterdam. I'm on my 3rd (now) flush and my friend who runs the anno70.nl website has completed his 5th flush...

To summarise what is in the book... effectively when you body gets toxic it starts to degenerate and age faster... and your immune function is lower.

I suggest you read the book from Andreas' Moritz it is in my mine one of if not the best £7 I spent on health for a book (amazon).

It is painless and only involves diet changes and liver salts...

I am obviously not a doctor but when I see hundreds of stones come out of me as it says in the book I think wow!!!

I've now passed ~350 stones... and tomorrow I expect to pass a load more.

I do recommend the book Liver-Gallbladder-Miracle-Cleanse-All-natural (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Liver-Gallbladder-Miracle-Cleanse-All-natural/dp/1569756066/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c)

5 days of apple juice and a vegan diet and some colon cleansing and salts and oliveoil/grapefuit shot and pop pop pop... the stones come out over a few hours...

I do recommmend the book so I will not put the full process here but e-mail me directly if anyone wants the process.

Would people like to see pictures of the stones? :D

Gotta go the epsom salts are kicking in....

Toxic liver = toxic thoughts

Connecting with Sauce

09-13-2009, 11:55 AM

Toxic liver = toxic thoughts

I must be a angel then as today I've not passed many :)

So far this morning I've only passed 20-30 small green stones (they are soft and made of collesterol and bile (and toxins) and loads of other flush stuff...

My mum on her first flush (63) has passed ~600 and has one which is over 25mm or 1 inch for the american's... a few at 10mm or so and loads of smaller ones...

No one has asked about pictures :D so I will go ahead and host my Amsterdam friends recent passage :) ~5 at 25mm

http://www.anno70.nl/images/other_pics/sl383116.jpg

http://www.anno70.nl/images/other_pics/sl383117.jpg

The brown stuff is not No.2 before you gross out ;)

Connecting with Sauce

09-13-2009, 12:03 PM

This is a list of The S.E.E.D's recommended links

http://www.2012overleven.nl/hyperlinks/hyperlinks.htm

TheObserver

09-13-2009, 12:20 PM

What kind of toilet has such a wide rim?

Jonathon

09-13-2009, 12:49 PM

Aaaargh sick! Not the 1st thing I wanted to see this morning LOL.:tears:

Connecting with Sauce

09-13-2009, 01:05 PM

It is a dutch toilet :) and these are the S.E.E.D.'s

gross I know... but better out than in is what I say...

TheObserver

09-13-2009, 03:27 PM

Oh so all that porcelain is the 'scheist' shelf (i googled dutch toilet) and the watery part is much smaller than in a normal bowl type toilet. Good because that pic had been giving me the impression of fist sized stones, ouch!! :shocked:

http://i2.tinypic.com/t02jnq.gif

swordsmith

09-13-2009, 06:08 PM

I love that the Dutch have a museum of sheist, and why cant we say **** here? It's a good anglo saxon word., merde! The museum also has actual differing toilet models that express our nationalistic attitudes to it, $hit that is.
Ok, now how about the Moritz routine ? In a nutshell ? please? I dont want to buy another book just at the moment... thanks John ( did you know" john "is toilet in American?)

Swanny

09-13-2009, 06:21 PM

You cant say ar$e either but it's ok to say ass :confused:

Metaphor

09-13-2009, 10:47 PM

Those pics sure is a winner of the "most-disgusting-pics-on-avalon" contest
:lol3:

Ammit

09-13-2009, 11:08 PM

Christ, do you have any liver left in you????. Getting scared now as I pm`ed you for info, alas still waiting.....

swordsmith

09-14-2009, 08:34 AM

Just be glad no one is posting their evacuated parasites pics, now that takes disgusting to a whole new level.
That's pretty much the next step after the liver flush, yikes.

Connecting with Sauce

09-14-2009, 09:15 AM

drop me an e-mail directly and I'm send some details to those interested...

john shore at blue yonder dot co dot uk most should be able to work that out... Ammit I'm sure I replied sorry if I didn't... send again direct to my mail address

beanny

09-14-2009, 11:13 AM

would also like details...
have been diagnosed with weak liver.

where do we accesss your email add?

fab photos
reallll interesting

all a state of breakfast, whooops.....mind

well, body

Kulapops

09-14-2009, 12:03 PM

Ok Sauce, (an unfortunate name for this particular thread :shocked:)

:original:

You convinced me, I just bought the book on Amazon. Thanks for the link.

Maybe we'll end up with a rogues gallery on here of avalonian stones?

:nono:

Er, maybe not.

I mentioned on another thread I'd changed my diet about four months back and feel a lot better for it, I think the clear out is the next logical step.

Gosh, if all the pig flu does is makes sure everyone gets their healthiest, then that's not a bad thing!

K

Connecting with Sauce

09-14-2009, 08:05 PM

drop me an e-mail directly and I'm send some details to those interested...

john shore at blue yonder dot co dot uk

most should be able to work that out... Ammit I'm sure I replied sorry if I didn't... send again direct to my mail address

It's in there... most may be able to see it ... somewhere...

Vidya Moksha

09-14-2009, 09:17 PM

I followed John's threads and bought the book and did my first flush this last weekend. Saw a few small stones but nothing major, i gather this is normal on the first flush...
I also bought an enema kit and did one for the first time...

one thing amazed me and still does, is my Skin - its so soft, never had skin like this before, toned? Im not even sure how to describe it..like oiled skin but not oily in texture, just amazingly soft lol...

I will try another flush again..i didnt handle the apple juice so easily, i gained a few pounds of weight from all the sugar, i dont normally eat much sugar, but must have lost some weight from the enema as my fat increased and my overall weight decreased. I am wondering if I need the apple juice?

Also in a pm John told me he was doing weekly flushes where the bok recommends monthly ones...

sorry i didnt photograph the toilet pan...:bond:

Connecting with Sauce

09-14-2009, 09:33 PM

the apple juice softens the stones... Malic acid is the bit needed.

I do my apple juice 50/50 with my CLEAN water (see my 70% water thread for that) I also add a cap full of apple cyder vinegar just to be safe...

outline procedure:
1 Litre of apple juice a day for 5 days vegan diet (meat / dairy diffucult for your liver to process)

6th day only light food and nothing after 1pm enema before the evening
take a series of liver salts at a certain timing and strength
then later take a olive oil / pink grapefruit shake :D then lay down
More salts in the morning a certain time later...

and you have green stones popping...

I did do 3 in close succession and tonight over webcam a friend I met at Zurich has been going HOLLY "MERDE" JOHN YOU LOOK GREAT!!! She didn't use the french word :D

So maybe I'm looking better for the 5 or 6 hundred stones I now am not carrying...

She asked have I lost any weight.... and I said "I'm a few stones lighter"... :)

More details of the flush then mail me a few of you have... Ideally I'd recommend the book as I think reading it is worth it as it clarifies a number of things about health just doing the flush won't give you... but I read it cover to cover a few times and it all makes sence to me.

I will continue with the apple juice. My Mum started to start passing stones last week in her stools even before she did the salts or the flush from the apple juice!!!! The 500+ over this weekend on her first flush!!!

runtofly

09-15-2009, 03:40 AM

I've done liver cleanses via the book in question, and I can vouch that some lovely liver/gall stones come out- well, an abundance of stones at first. After a while they should be less frequent as you reach a better level of cleanliness in your liver. You should of course continue to do the cleanses on a regular basis, which is detailed in the book. Otherwise, the benefit of the cleanse is reduced.

My husband (then boyfriend) was skeptical of the power of the liver cleans, but now we swear by it. Come to think of it, it's time for another round!!! I need some apple juice!!

Swanny

09-15-2009, 09:29 AM

What food are people eating when they do the clean?
Do you feel great afterwards?

Connecting with Sauce

09-15-2009, 09:49 AM

vegan no meat fish or diary. You feel better afterwards. Can be a little sick during and immediately afterwards until the toxic stones are out... hence enema is highly recommended.

Connecting with Sauce

09-18-2009, 12:30 PM

My friend in Amsterdam they person who pointed me towards this topic has just finished writing an article on the reasons why he has flushed his liver and gallbladder...

http://www.anno70.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=493&Itemid=1

You may find it interesting...

Connecting with Sauce

09-18-2009, 03:03 PM

These three clips are worth watching for liver function...

YouTube - liver and gallbladder cleanse Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67ZRYUKjgfM&feature=related)

YouTube - liver and gallbladder cleanse Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNtzvutQ9CE&feature=player_embedded)

YouTube - liver and gallbladder cleanse Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1iDI5eY7wU&feature=related)

Chlorine is mentioned in the last clip...

These are ESSENTIAL VIEWING!!!!!

Connecting with Sauce

09-28-2009, 04:23 PM

Ok this is a little gross but I go on the view "better out than in" so I'd thought I'd share with you what has so far come out of my liver and gallbladder using Andreas Moritz's Liver flush method... In the hope it gets people to investigate further :)

Flush number 1's picture is currently on my phone and I don't seem to be able to get the picture off... It is more impressive than 2 and 3 but not 4!!!!

But Flush numbers 2 to 4 are on my camera :D so here goes...

Contents of Flush Number 2

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0006.jpg

Contents of Flush Number 3

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0013.jpg

Ok last night and this morning I did flush number 4 and to be honest I was rather disappointed after 4th load of salts as nothing seemed to be coming out of me!!! (Strange as that would mean I was empty... So I should have been happy!) but then it all started to flow out of me :D literally... I decided against the fish out method of before as it was a pain in the A... so I decided to photo in the sieve so you have a number of pics for flush 4. For scale the sieve is 150mm or 6 inches at the plastic rim.

Flush 4 Part 1 :D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0031.jpg

Flush 4 part 2 quite proud of this one ;)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0034.jpg

Flush 4 part 3 this one is the larest yet!!! ~25mm

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0036.jpg

I thought this was it... as I seem to then just pass liquid again... Until this final little lot came out...

Flush 4 part 4 last lot so far today...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0038.jpg

I know, I know... gross pictures but I'm hoping it will shock some of you to look into this... as I feel great!!! not that I felt bad before but getting these out is like an emotional release as we are said to store our emotions in our livers... well I did try and have a good old emotional clear out last night forgiving whatever, whoever I could think of from my distant past... well today it seems to have paid off so to speak.

Well I intend to do the next one in 3-4 weeks time and will keep you all posted on how the sputnik zapper (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16717) goes when it arrives... as it does say it is ideal to do after a liver flush or cleanse :)

ps this is essential for the home diyers DIY enema kit (http://www.e-enema.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=34&products_id=28&osCsid=20a10a6e1319b01393938e440e9c0d78)

Swanny

09-28-2009, 05:51 PM

I hope you dont put the sieve back in the cupboard :shocked:

Connecting with Sauce

09-28-2009, 07:26 PM

It was a special cheap Asda sieve for 79p specially for the occasion.

I did actually speak too soon as I had a 5th load come out... and there seems to be small things with tails in there... they may be parasites... having issues with photobucket at the moment.

swordsmith

09-28-2009, 09:12 PM

Hey save that sieve :mf_pain::mf_pain::mf_pain: and can I borrow the sputnik when it completes the mission?

Connecting with Sauce

09-28-2009, 10:55 PM

Swordsmith,

You are the first to bagsie the sieve!!! Maybe I should ebay it :) ...but unfortunately the sputnik will be sterilised, prepared and relaunched for many an unmanned mission into the internal galaxy returning via a ring of uranus :) or that is what the guy selling it told me anyway :D

Swanny

09-28-2009, 11:25 PM

What a horrible future the sieve has, about as far from sieving flour as you could get :sad:

Connecting with Sauce

09-29-2009, 06:35 PM

As promised... here is what passed in part 5 of yesterdays flush... Some wierd white rubbery things which were nothing to do with my eating habbits or what previously passed in past 3 flushes... Wierd...

Flush 4 part 5 the final fallout

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0039.jpg
In a chinese accent... Ah rubbery!

And to show you all I can post some nice pictures... here are two...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/flower.jpg

And one I took a few years ago...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/PIC00011.jpg

Swanny

09-29-2009, 07:07 PM

Looks like a pasta dish
I'm really not hungry though :zip:

rhythm

09-30-2009, 11:01 AM

HMMM !!! yummy

i think i will have

scauce on mine :naughty:

looks like a few Mc Donalds ... there eh!!!

Connecting with Sauce

09-30-2009, 11:20 AM

HMMM !!! yummy

i think i will have

scauce on mine :naughty:

looks like a few Mc Donalds ... there eh!!!

Rythym,

There is NO McDonalds there (well maybe in the toxins within green stones from a few years ago!). I've not eaten McDonalds for over 2 years or anything like that... This is not food in this sieve as part of the cleanse requires you to be "empty" to allow the stones to drop out without blockage... it is only the contents of colon plaque, or internal organs which have rejected toxins or parasites... Or Cold pressed olive oil or freshly squeezed grapefruit :D I did not eat any white rubbery little critters :D

I feel much better and am in the process of getting the herbs required for the kidney flush

1oz Majoram
1oz cats claw
1oz comfrey root
2oz fennel seeds
2oz chickory herb
2oz Uva Ursi
2oz Hydrangea root
2 oz Gravel root
2oz Marshamallow root
2oz Goldenrod herb

I only have 2 so far so need to get finding!!! Some are difficult to get... All info is in the book at the start of the thread... As I said a must read :)

My next Liver/GB flush will be in 4 weeks...

Connecting with Sauce

09-30-2009, 10:40 PM

After going to the chinese herb place today and 2 of the herbs on the list being banned from export from China I asked the chinese herb doctor what he'd recommend...

7 large bags of herbs/bark and root later... and £30 lighter in the pocket I'm now on a kidney cleanse...

next six days tea

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0043.jpg

This evenings tea

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0045.jpg

The simmer for 30 minutes

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0042.jpg

The strain - Swanny note different sieve!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0046.jpg

The evenings tea

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/RIMG0049.jpg

Well it wasn't as bad as the epsom salts but it isn't a glass of port either :D

TheObserver

10-01-2009, 03:33 AM

Perhaps a dash of lemon and honey would help! :original::cup:

FIIISH

10-01-2009, 04:26 AM

Over the past several months, I have performed a Colon cleanse, Liver/GB cleanse, and Parasite cleanse. I am gearing up for my 2nd Liver/GB cleanse soon. I passed quite a few stones the first time. Given the abuse I have subjected my liver to over the years, I am sure it is really overdue for this! :shocked:

My personal guidance has been directing me to concentrate on improving my health as much as possible. I think now, and especially in the near future, it is going to be near top of the list of most important assets!

Great to see that others are getting this guidance as well.

Connecting with Sauce

10-06-2009, 05:12 AM

Just reading the thread on x-men and someone posted this on liver cleansing...

Cleansing the liver bile ducts is the most powerful procedure you can undertake in order to improve your body's health. A liver cleanse (http://breathing.com/articles/liver-cleanse.htm) ( http://breathing.com/articles/liver-cleanse.htm) should be done twice a year if possible. Ideally, it should be part of a semi-annual liver/parasite cleanse the sequence of which enhances the overall results.

Just thought I'd post it here as it all points to the same thing...

rhythm

10-06-2009, 07:05 AM

Hey scauce

are you running out of sieve's

there man !!!

seroiusly this is good in fo !!

just a wee! bit scary......

Swanny

10-06-2009, 09:19 AM

Sauce is using the communal sieve, my turn with it next then yours Rhythm :thumb_yello:

Metaphor

10-06-2009, 10:56 PM

Connecting with Sauce

10-12-2009, 10:09 AM

Hey Sauce. Nice pics.
you have just helped me to loose some weight- I have lost my appetite for a week or two.
I hope you´re not using this thread to meet girls. There are other ways to attract the opposite sex :lol3:

My Sister in law has lost 1 stone (~7kg) since she started doing the flush, looks a lot better AND is more relaxed. This is great. She did her second flush this weekend and produced over 180 stones.

Meeting girls... I have already a lovely Russian girl, thanks Metaphor ;) but I think the fact you look a lot better after, then flushes may actually help meet girls if that was an intent (but don't mention it on the first date)... I think younger and healther looking people are generally more attractive physically... which helps :)

I'm on week two of my herbal teas from my Chinese herbalist... then week 3 of herbs and I'll be on flush number 5... So I will keep you all posted with more thread info... I'm looking forward to seeing what will come out next!!!

Some extra info for those wanting to read it all through...
http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp

Reader

10-12-2009, 02:23 PM

Just finished my first flush yesterday. Boy that chicken on the grill sure did taste good last nite!

I noted some small stones, one like the green peas in the above photos, which I plan to not look at any longer.

While only a few stones passed, a whole lot of other stuff is now gone, for better or worse. Will try again in three weeks. Lost a couple of pounds also.

PS. Epsom Salts are vile.

Avid

10-12-2009, 05:50 PM

What happens if you have NO gall bladder (previously removed) and are diagnosed with a fatty liver in docs blood tests????
Is the liver cleanse going to finish me off?:mfr_omg:

Connecting with Sauce

10-13-2009, 11:59 AM

What happens if you have NO gall bladder (previously removed) and are diagnosed with a fatty liver in docs blood tests????
Is the liver cleanse going to finish me off?:mfr_omg:

There is a section on page 125 from chapter 4 of the book on this... removing the gall bladder is a major digestive compromise as the GB stores extra bile and injects it into the bowel when needed... so without one he recommends bile suppliment and STILL flushing the liver (with it blocked it produces less bile)... I wouild recommend his book and read it fully through to fully understand it... it sounds like your liver is full of the 'stones' which are fat balls effectively from what I gather from reading the book...

Someone without a GB really needs to know what the 'butchers' have done and understand how they can get their body back on track... If you're still eating exactly as you were that caused the GB issue in the first place then it is likely to still be blocking... I'd watch the links and read the book.

This of course is my opinion etc etc and I'm not a doctor... but then most doctors won't know this procedure as it won't be trained...

Connecting with Sauce

10-29-2009, 12:27 PM

Well I'm now on my fourth week of my herbal kidney cleanse and I'm currently drinking apple juice getting ready for flush number 5 :) I just thought I'd prepare you all for the shock of the next photoshoot :)

I currently now know 10+ people personally who are doing this flush and producing similar results... plus numerous people from avalon who have e-mailed me for details...

Connecting with Sauce

11-21-2009, 02:36 PM

A quick update :)

Today is flush 6 and another batch have just come out and these are the largest ones I have so far produced... unfortunately OR fortunately (for you guys) I'm having digital camera issues currently... one was 40mm+ better out than in I say... I have captured some photos on a cameraphone but the optical quality won't be up to scratch sorry :) Photos may follow...

waitinginthewings

11-21-2009, 04:51 PM

Gnosis5

11-22-2009, 02:28 AM

Connecting with Sauce

11-26-2009, 12:36 AM

Are these stones coming from the GB...if so, how can so many stones fit in such a small pouch? Is this possible?

My understanding from the book is the light brown stones come from the gallbladder and tend to come out first if you have a GB issue but the green stones I've been (mostly) getting are from deep within the liver channels.

The process flushes both the Gall Bladder and the liver.

Connecting with Sauce

11-26-2009, 12:44 AM

Good question. Also, how will you know when you are finished?

Another question, I just completed a 60-day water only fast. I did occasionally have raw lemon juice with some olive oil added to it, but it was about a gallon of water a day and nothing else for 60 days. I had to stop when the in-laws moved in for the winter and will start again in the Spring.

Would a long fast such as what I did get rid of the liver fats and stones by eating them up because I am aware my body was very busy burning up the toxic wastes and passing whatever it could not extract nutrients from on its way out.

There was also some deep healing response and I am no longer diagnosed as "pre-diabetic".

Got rid of all the cellulite doing that and felt GREAT!! the whole time. Eating is really a drag now.

I never had any stones come out because with the long fast method the body would have re-absorbed them and extracted any possible nutrients locked up in them. That's the theory anyway.

Here is the instruction I followed while on the Long Fast: http://www.falconblanco.com/health/fasting.htmhttp://www.falconblanco.com/health/fasting.htm

When two flushes on the trot do not produce any stones you have finished. 6-14 flushes. One every 3-4 weeks means a lengthy process.

I would guess you're not far off being a breathenarian with fasting for that long. I have no experience of fasting for that long so can't comment. It does say in the book stopping eating actually produces GB and liver stones, but I doubt that applies to long term fasting... I think he was meaning short term starving one's self to loose weight.

I know I've lost ~4 kg now since doing the flush, but this wasn't the reason but a nice side effect of flushing...

Why did you have to stop just because of the in-law's??? Did they force feed you?

conkroach

02-12-2010, 04:20 PM

I have the book and have completed about 7 or 8 flushes. Many times hundreds of stones came out. The last time maybe only 30. I am doing it again this weekend. Highly recommend the book referenced.

Connecting with Sauce

02-22-2010, 01:47 PM

Hi Conkroach,

I'm on my 8th flush also and it will be this weekend coming :)

Apple juice with a splash of organic cyder apple vinegar :cheers:

FIIISH

02-22-2010, 07:36 PM

I have done a total of 3 liver/gb flushes to date. The first one was
last June, and the other two were within the past month.

I am using the protocol here-which is similiar to most(apple juice, olive oil, epsom salt) with
some proprietary changes: http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/liver-and-gallbladder-cleanse.html

I intend to do one more for a total of 3 back to back with a week
in-between each to rest.

The first and second flushes produced quite a few "stones", some
rather large. Experienced quite a bit of nausea while they were being
passed. This last time less stones were passed and they were smaller.
Also less nausea, which I take as a sign the cleanses are working
and my liver is getting cleaned out.

but getting these out is like an emotional release as we are said to store our emotions in our livers

No kidding! The second cleanse, I experienced a great deal of ANGER :mad3: and was
thinking "WTF?" until I realized it was related to the cleanse,

This stuff isn't any fun, but the benefits are worth it! :thumb_yello:

Reader

02-22-2010, 10:54 PM

Just finished my 5th this past weekend, had to miss the new moon, but still on track. It seems to get easier each time, if you follow the regime
The first time, almost passed out on the head it was so intense, so not to worry, it does get easier.
I think I'll need a couple more goes before I can go to the six month plan

Connecting with Sauce

02-22-2010, 11:28 PM

I've today got an e-mail from a friend from Andreas Moritz with regards Amazon and the reviews on his books someone is leaving negative reviews on his books... It is strange the length they will go to to try and prevent the truth coming out...If anyone has done a flush and gained benefits from the Andreas book it may be worth leaving a comment on Amazon... below are the details from Andreas M...

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Dear *****,

I would like to ask you a personal favor if I may.

About 8 months ago, my work and books were attacked by a well-financed organization of bloggers, headed by a person with the name M**** H*****. This group is part of a larger organization which works for the pharmaceutical industry to discredit anyone who dares to challenge the current medical model and the "science" upheld by the profit-driven phama/medical industry.

If you have read any of my books and articles, you may know why I could be considered a threat to these establishments.

Several days ago, I managed to have the blog site of Mr H****** removed by the popular blog host site World Press, in violation of their rules. This unleashed a massive campaign with intention to discredit everything I have done and written.

If you do a Google on Andreas Moritz, the second link and some others below open their new blog sites with all the comments by their team members.
www.google.com/search?q=Andreas+Moritz&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Their campaign includes writing negative 1-star reviews about my books on Amazon.com to deter anyone from buying them. And this brings up my personal request to you : In case you have benefited from reading my books and you would be willing to write a review about it, I would profoundly appreciate that.

Please visit www.amazon.com, and search "Andreas Moritz." Or open the following link:
www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_14?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=andreas+moritz&sprefix=Andreas+Moritz

This will show you the list of all my books. The top ones are the most widely read. Please click on the ones you would like to write a review about, or to comment on one of the reviews made by these individuals. If you scroll down the page, there is the option to do that.

Once again, I would be most grateful if you could do me this favor.

Warmly,
Andreas Moritz

www.ener-chi.com
andmor@ener-chi.com

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I've removed the guys name just in case... I'm sure Andreas would mind me posting this here... I think a few hundred people have benefited here from the info...

Kind regards

John

Moxie

02-23-2010, 04:37 AM

Pardon me... as I consider, myself, and how inconvenient it is to posit against the Thread's premise... I am As compelled to share as is the thread starter.

You might consider why it is that most prescribed protocols recommend a practice of cleanse not to exceed 5 to 7 days. That amt of time is sufficient to "cleanse" ones self, liver/gall bladder etc (that is the premise).

I chalenge ConnectingWithSauce to extend his/her liver OR gall bladder cleanse, either one, to one month minimum and report back....

See what keeps coming out of your colon during that prolonged period of time (if you accept the challenge).
You will find that the "appearance" of "stones" will continue, no matter how long you practice the method.

The combination of ingredients will ensure that!

My premise is this: you are creating the "stones" that you are releasing & posting w/photos. Don't believe me? Then just keep up with the cleanse for twice as long or three times as long as is recommended by whatever protocol you are following.

The ingredients that are taken will CAUSE a coagulation and formation of those "soft" clots that are shown in your photos as stones.

GallStones/LiverStones have a different constitution than what comes out your A$$$ in those photos.

Some, a few, maybe many, people are open to the truth and will recognize truth when they look into a subject long enough to see clearly.

The cleanses that are spoken of here on this thread, will not hurt you...but they do Not do what is claimed. Period. Please check further than a few mere google surfaced searches and Do check into the warnings even the quackwatch sites... gather your information.

You can chit orbs of oily orbs all you want via the ingredients, it does Not mean your organs are full of that, the numbers of what comes out woudl kill you if they were existent to begin with.... THINK.

If you don't think that the search engines are orchestrated, then you are so wrong... look and see from this one simple search how the New Age has taken over the top search engines....

Don't seek what it is that you want to see...
seek the truth and notice your gratitude to find out!

Ponder this: that the alterntives health venues, yes, it's real, that probably 75% of the "holistic health industry" is just as amiss as conventional medicine... that is My experience of 30 yrs.

So, ConnectingWithSauce... your challenge is to continue the 5 days cleanse to a longer regime'.... see if you still chit soft orbs that you might wish to continue to call '"stones"...

k?

FIIISH

02-23-2010, 05:04 AM

Moxie,

Are you having a bad day? :nono: Speaking of bile....

The issues you have raised are common criticisms
of these cleanses.

It may be true that the "orbs" that appear in movements
did not exist in the body in the same shape and size as when
they leave it, those who believe in these cleanses believe the orbs
ARE composed of toxic bile.

The fact that one can continue expelling the orbs if the protocol is
continued is not itself proof that the orbs are not toxic bile and other
matter that is expelled from the liver and gallbladder during the cleanse.

Connecting with Sauce

02-23-2010, 11:14 AM

Hi Moxie,

I'm John. So I'm a him :) I understand your view on this, but have you actually done a liver flush? Or is this view just based on what you've read from the internet including these quack watch sites?

You will see on post number #34 http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=173095&postcount=34 That towards the end of the 5th liver flush a load of white parasite-like dead objects came out of my colon… This was not any food, oil or salt! The only thing I can explain this is that they were inside my liver blocked by the fat balls which were in there for a long time, i.e. not made over night… The final part of the cleanse involves a fast AND having empty bowels so it isn't food...

My Girlfriend on her first flush past a whole sieve full of brown gallbladder stones, her mum and grandmother have both had their gallbladders removed by surgery! ...from what came out I'm sure she was on her way to the same if she hadn't done the flush. The brown stones how are they made in the oil/salt mix theory???

I did 3 flushes in 3 weeks (one per week for the 1st 3 flushes) when I first did the 2 following weeks were not as many stones out more brown style grit (the pictures are on this thread). i.e. no green stones, I think the liver rotates through its ducts (just my own theory from observations)...

My mother also started to produce the green stones during the week of apple juice as this loosens the stones and softens them, some fall out before they are pushed/flushed out… This leads to some people expelling them during the week of just apple juice, like my Mum… before the oil or salt is taken. How do the quack watch people explain this?

>>I challenge ConnectingWithSauce to extend his/her liver OR gall bladder cleanse, either one, to one month minimum and report back....

How would I do that? Drink apple juice for 3 weeks? The actual cleanse it's self is just one evening/morning. I would not want to do this every day for 4 weeks? Moxie have you read the book or looked at the links?? I did one flush per week for the first 3 weeks… and the process itself involves quiet time and fitting one in every 3-4 weeks is a struggle so I can't really accept the challenge, sorry… And also can't see the benefit in taking the challenge as I don't feel I need to prove anything. I do however want to clarify my points hence this reply.

I know personally 10 people who have all produced stones loads of them and felt better post the flush and seen health benefits. This is in addition to the people on this thread who have decided to take their health into their own hands and help boost their immune system.

>>Some, a few, maybe many, people are open to the truth and will recognize truth when they look into a subject long enough to see clearly.

I've looked into this topic quite extensively already… I've read a lot of health books and think I'm on the right track for me… I look forward to seeing the truth though, if I have indeed got it wrong.

>>So, ConnectingWithSauce... your challenge is to continue the 5 days cleanse to a longer regime'

I've been detoxing and cleansing for months… :) I started the thread after the 3rd week, I was doing a lot of stuff before I started flushing… So 4 months so far doing flushes. With what I'm finding out, detoxing is a continual job i.e. the best way is just to make it part of your routine… clean water, clean fresh food, good fats, low sugar/carbs, organic pasture fed meats, regular exercise, relaxing, detoxing, etc, and a clean mind… With the times we are in this is quite difficult… and getting a balance is important.

Moxie, My challenge to you is to try one for yourself and see how you feel… I'm guessing but I think you'll be converted, after you do one...

Either way take care in this journey we call life...

aloha

03-12-2010, 11:36 AM

aloha
I did my first liverflush 9 years ago and got out hundreds of gallstones
since then I've done the cleanse every year, getting out nearly as much every time
it's been a blessing to get rid of so much shi*
I've done it after Hulda Clark's recipe
http://www.drclark.net/en/cleanses_clean-ups/liver_cleanses/liver_cleanse.php
first time I followed the recipe, but later I've simplified it down to three ingredients :
epsomsalt, oliveoil and grapefruitjuice
as you get used to doing this, it's really a piece of cake
really worth the few hours it takes
good luck

conkroach

03-13-2010, 01:29 AM

"clean water, clean fresh food, good fats, low sugar/carbs, organic pasture fed meats, regular exercise, relaxing, detoxing, etc, and a clean mind…"

Most excellent advice Sauce.

There are lab documents online, that show how the stones were sliced and diced, and analyzed. They contained much more than a simple combination of grapefruit juice and olive oil. I know that when I was struggling with my gallbladder pain, a flush would help immensely. Like night and day, the pain difference from one day to the next. I eventually lost my gallbladder. The dog found it and....:naughty: I had stored particular negative emotions in it and it had to go. Wish I'd learned that before the knife.

I just had a lightbulb moment...I'm going to mix up the concoction of juice and oil and let it sit out, maybe put some hydrochloric acid and bile salts in it and see if it coagulates. What do you think? A little unofficial test?