Something is a brewing, HMMMM

[tone3jaguar]

I have always respected David Wilcock and I still do. He says that he is getting dream data that is showing him that the Earth is being surrounded by positive beings from different civilizations right now. I think that his dream data is usually on so far as I have observed.

Some of you may not be aware that starting back in Early July the CSETI contact groups around the world began to have much more contact than ever before. Ships completely materializing right next to the groups, radar laser detectors going off like crazy and etc. If there where more craft nearby during contact protocols then this would be a side effect of that.

I have learned better than to try to make public predictions about what the ET's are going to do next with my total miss fire on the crop formations. However, I still have a very good personal track record on remote dowsing and viewing the present. I know this is kind of like the oldest trick in the west, however I am going to convey it anyway.

It is the oldest trick in the west because there will be no tangible evidence available to back up this data. What I can tell you is that I checked to see how many different species or star nations had parked their ships around the Earth right now. The number yesterday was 36. The number today was 45.

Since I can only speculate as to why this is, I will go ahead and just say, something is a brewing. This may be the welcoming party, or liberation crew or what ever you want to call it. I am not saying when this will manifest, but it looks like it might. Sorry for the ambiguity.

[Humble Janitor]

Perhaps it's because more people are awakening but instead of going down the negative path, they are manifesting a more positive reality.

Regardless of the end result, it's a good path to be heading down.

[futureyes]

oh yes t3j ... i concur :original: something indeed is brewing ... :thumb_yello:

the positive beings ... from various civilizations ... i have experienced their presence last fall already ... about a year ago now ... they were already gathering here then ... awaiting ...

though i am not aware of david wilcock's dream data ... just from what you wrote i sense a deep similarity to ...

hmm ...

something is brewing indeed ...
we did not begin this brew ... that was never up to us ...
we do though ... have complete input as to how this pot of coffee will turn out ...
it is our decision ... our choice ...

what i do feel ... is that these positive beings ... are here to assist us ...
we make the appropriate choices this time for the good of this earth ...
they will ensure the coffee we brew ...
is fresher than ever ... :cup:

very simple this all is ...
very simple indeed ...

we are but a grain of sand upon this infinite stretch of universal beach ...
and yet ... we are of the utmost significance ...
that is why they are here ... because they know this ...

do we?

:wub2:

[Angel in Disguise]

I often wonder the same :wink2:

[BROOK]

we are but a grain of sand upon this infinite stretch of universal beach ...
and yet ... we are of the utmost significance ...
that is why they are here ... because they know this ...

You can be sure they are here because we are important..they are waiting to see what we will do next :thumb_yello:
Great to see your words Futureyes :wub2:

[mudra]

Perhaps it's because more people are awakening but instead of going down the negative path, they are manifesting a more positive reality.

Regardless of the end result, it's a good path to be heading down.

Yes I believe so too Humble. I have been observing this more and more.
I think something is brewing in our hearts allowing their petals to enfold so we can clearly see the Light .

Love always
mudra

[mudra]

Thank you for your visit Futures eyes.
Good to feel you here :wub2:

Love always
mudra

[Anchor]

T3J: In connection with this thread of investigation I have some questions which you might like to try:

1) How many groups of ET's (5D and above) are there who have some of thier number in 3D physical bodies on earth incarnation now.

Eg: Ra has at least one that we know about, and probably more...

2) Does it necessarily follow that when an ET group is involved by having some of thier number to take incarnation (as wanderers) that they stick around to see how things turn out?

There is whistle blower testimony speaking to 57 varieties (Heinz 57!) - could the numbers you quoted be on the low side ? Or is it that there are fewer STS ones and you were only counting the STOs.

A..

[tone3jaguar]

T3J: In connection with this thread of investigation I have some questions which you might like to try:

1) How many groups of ET's (5D and above) are there who have some of thier number in 3D physical bodies on earth incarnation now.

Eg: Ra has at least one that we know about, and probably more...

2) Does it necessarily follow that when an ET group is involved by having some of thier number to take incarnation (as wanderers) that they stick around to see how things turn out?

There is whistle blower testimony speaking to 57 varieties (Heinz 57!) - could the numbers you quoted be on the low side ? Or is it that there are fewer STS ones and you were only counting the STOs.

A..

Well, I have stopped using the STS / STO reference. I am back to the positive / negative reference again. Zero of these ships are negative ET's. The negatives are not allowed here. This goes back to the point I was making of people grouping all extra dimensionals into the category of ET. The negative extra dimensionals do not fly around in space craft. If they did they would be escorted back to the planet they came from just like we have been.

If I check to see how many of the ET's that are the good guys are essentially part of the higher selves / soul families of people incarnated on earth it is around 2000 of them.

Ra is a 7th dimensional guardian / communication being. He does not need a ship, he is omnipresent.

I have already checked which dimension / density the visitors that are in space craft are from and they are from the 4th and 5th dimensions. Most if not all of the wanderers are from the 6th dimension. Therefore, it is my conclusion that the wanderer souls are not directly from these civilizations. But we can probably conclude that some of them once where living in these civilizations before they ascended to the 6th dimension.

That is the best I can do for you on those topics. Those are my best intuitive estimates, not to be taken as truth. I think that it is important for people to be focused on the need to know stuff right now instead of the interesting to know stuff.

[Jnana]

I agree that something is brewing. I had a deeply emotional experience in meditation Saturday morning, yet it's hard for me to convince myself it was real. I took part in a ceremony where billions of beings from many, many star nations surrounded the earth, sending healing energy to the planet and its occupants. This continued while diving into the planet and then back out. It was an amazing thing. Make of it what you will.

[hobbit]

Could I just remind everyone that today/tomorrow is the equinox.
for thoe in the northern hemisphere it is the autumn equinox.
This is when the sun and earth are very specifically aligned, the trees know this very very well, and thus switch over now.
I consider this to be a field based electrical universe, and any beings operating in universe will adhere to this field cyclic nature.
Us hobbits are dowsers, very competent dowsers, we do not need eyes to see, we live underground in the shires, like moles.
hobbit

[Myplanet2]

I agree that something is brewing. I had a deeply emotional experience in meditation Saturday morning, yet it's hard for me to convince myself it was real. I took part in a ceremony where billions of beings from many, many star nations surrounded the earth, sending healing energy to the planet and its occupants. This continued while diving into the planet and then back out. It was an amazing thing. Make of it what you will.

What's brewing is so utterly fantastic, it's hard to contain the joy. (not that I'm trying too hard)

The 09-09-09 event has blown my socks off. The return of ease in re-contacting our higher aspects plus the re-activation of the emerald healing crystal is making for a great many personal possibilities for progress.

3 people close to me have begun channeling since 09-09-09, where they'd been blocked in their attempts previously. And since so many more people are able to contact our friends beyond, more and more are being invited to come and help.

The next wave of energy is pretty intense. This is a ride. :shocked:

[Ammit]

I am gelous, wish I had the abbillity to do what you guys do.

[Reader]

These posts remind me of watching some of the STS mission videos which show multitudes of craft, beings, etc. flying all about. Especially the ones like the "Tether Incident". They must be positive as they never interfere but instead appear curious or just showing themselves.

[lindabaker]

Yes I believe so too Humble. I have been observing this more and more.
I think something is brewing in our hearts allowing their petals to enfold so we can clearly see the Light .

Love always
mudra

I believe they are here to see the Lotus open. I usually see indigo and violet orbs. The Big Mother Daddy golden one showed up just now. Haven't seen BMD orb in years. Something is brewing, indeed. Maybe I'll see something tomorrow night on the plane across the Atlantic.

[Malletzky]

Futureyes, it's a pleasure to see you around here and it's a great joy to feel your wonderful energy again...

And Ammit...no need for any jealousy...I do not have any special abilities also, but I have my heart, which guidance I trust blindly. Rely on the guidance of your heart and you can't do any wrong!

As I mentioned few months ago on several ocations here on avalon, I feel that there are realy some big changes ahead of us.

Recently, I have had some very strange dreams and visons, which I've never had before in my life...the latest vision (not a dream, this popped up in front of me very clearly) was so intense...I saw three or four children probaly at the age of four or five years old, walking on an open and empty road, hand in hand, very instable while walking (as small babies just learning to walk), but with joy of the comming discoveries down the road.

And then, I realised that these children, they represent us, the humans of this 3D earth, walking the new way, discovering the unknown behind the void, happy and joyfull about the comming "times" and the final revelation of our true purpose.

So I would say yes, there is something brewing...

with :wub2:
malletzky

[orthodoxymoron]

Could it be that the good-guys are showing up...in preparation for a solar system exorcism...to remove the bad-guys from this solar system? Are they getting ready to rumble and kick some @$$? Has humanity finally awoken to a sufficient level to make this possible? Are we finally ready to rule ourselves? I don't have a clue. I'm a rebel without a clue.

[tone3jaguar]

Update, Today 9/21/09

52 Species stationed around the Earth

430 Total Ships at this point

I have also been told that there is one particular species that is kind of like the logistical organizers or something like that. They are called the Pasarions. Last night I asked the Pasarions to show me in a lucid dream what they wished to convey to me.

The dream was quite interesting. First is started out as I was watching a video game of exotic cars racing down an unstable road. Next I found myself standing in a creek or river bed and all of the cars came crashing off of the end of a bridge that had been washed away. All of the cars where expensive exotic cars and they all landed in a pile.

Next I found myself using my oribital polisher on the side of a 18 wheeler and quit polishing it for some reason. Then next I was on an old dirt road that was surrounded by canals like the ones I grew up around in South Florida.

I was now standing on this road with my polisher (I have an electric car polisher) and foud myself trying to polish a dirty old black and white caprice cop car. I got a section done and it was like all dirty because I was just grinding the dust into it. So I went to take a bucket and wash the dirt off of the area. I went to go over to the canal to get some water in the bucket and a water moccasin (poisonous snake) came flying out of the water and landed in the bucket, end of dream.

What I took from this is that the exotic cars represented the rich elites that are racing down a dangerous road and are headed for a huge crash and burn. Then the old cop car represented justice and the snake represented knowledge. So they where showing me that justice is going to come by way of knowledge, the knowledge will clense the earth with justice.

Get it, they where trying to get me to get the cop car (justice) clean with the snake (knowledge) instead of water.

So in conclusion there is going to be knowledge unleashed that will clense the planet and send the rich power monger elites crashing off the road they have been on for so long and the vehicles they have been using for carrying them down that road will be totaled. I really like how the Pasarions tied my love for cars and shamanism together in this dream. Very clever of them. I took me all day to figure out the symbology.

[Ammit]

Jesus, i thought my dreams where bad.
Ammit

[tone3jaguar]

Jesus, i thought my dreams where bad.
Ammit

LOL, the only scary part was when the snake came flying out of the water and I had to catch it in the bucket to prevent being bitten by it. I guess don't let the knowledge creep up on you or it will bite you, HE HE HE.

[Ammit]

I have and have had dreams of strange creatures humans and humanoids in my dreams, always seem nowadays but futuristic, weired alcohol will usually kill these dreams off but they are getting so strong now.


LOL, the only scary part was when the snake came flying out of the water and I had to catch it in the bucket to prevent being bitten by it. I guess don't let the knowledge creep up on you or it will bite you, HE HE HE.

[Anchor]

If I check to see how many of the ET's that are the good guys are essentially part of the higher selves / soul families of people incarnated on earth it is around 2000 of them.

Thanks for taking the time to do this. I am having trouble understanding what you said in the context of my question. Specifically the quoted part.

To set my frame of rerefence: I strongly suspect that I am a wanderer. What I think this would mean is that my soul fragment is part of a 6th density social memory complex. (Using the terminology from the law of one). An example of a 6th Density social memory complex in this way of naming things would be Ra.

That means I would expect at least some of the remainder to be "in observation mode" if not "in orbit" around the planet.

In this context, in your answer is 2000 a count of these social-memory complexes ? If not what? You referred to ET Families.

A..

[TraineeHuman]

Tone3Jaguar, I know that most or nearly all of the symbols in a dream have a meaning unique to the person having the dream. However, as far as I understand there are a few symbols that have basically the same meaning regardless of whose dream it is.

One of these symbols is that of a car, and it represents a human's life, or the course of their life. That would suggest to me your dream indicates that many elite individuals' glitzy, materialistic lives will get wrecked in some big way. And that maybe instead of worrying about evolving your own life (the police car) through improving some superficial side of it, you're growing stronger in a more dramatic and quick way through your knowledge or insight, as you say.

[tone3jaguar]

Thanks for taking the time to do this. I am having trouble understanding what you said in the context of my question. Specifically the quoted part.

To set my frame of rerefence: I strongly suspect that I am a wanderer. What I think this would mean is that my soul fragment is part of a 6th density social memory complex. (Using the terminology from the law of one). An example of a 6th Density social memory complex in this way of naming things would be Ra.

That means I would expect at least some of the remainder to be "in observation mode" if not "in orbit" around the planet.

In this context, in your answer is 2000 a count of these social-memory complexes ? If not what? You referred to ET Families.

A..


I have actually veered away from the way that things are explained in the law of one. Not because I do not think that there is some valuable information to be gained by reading through it, more because people who are not familiar with it have really no frame of reference for it. I will try to communicate this answer in a way that is more all inclusive.

If an entity is in the sixth dimension / density then there consciousness is no longer localized in time and space in any way. Beings at this level are in effect omnipresent. Therefore, the sixth dimensional part of yourself is all ways present and connected to you through your subtle energies.

The way that I understand it is this. Everyone has a 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th dimensional aspect of their selves. This is where it gets into the weird paradoxical ideas because when you ascend to the 4th dimension in the near future, you now exist in a reality where time is not a constant. The consciousness is effectively able to move through time.

This goes for all dimensions above this one in one way or another. Therefore, the part of you that ascends in a few years already exists. This is the higher self, it is you after you have evolved. Kind of a brain f--ker.

My interpretation is that the difference between a wanderer soul and a non-wanderer soul has to do with where you spent your last life before this incarnation. Now before I go off on this I have to state that I have read the law of one, however I do not follow it like a bible or something. It is one of thousands of sources of information that I gleam things from. I am going to give my best interpretation of what I read in it when I read it a year ago. If this is not accurate then what ever.

According to the law of one the wanderer is someone that was already in a 6th dimensional consciousness and volunteered to reincarnate back into the consciousness of a 3rd dimensional individual on a 3rd dimensional planet like earth. Where as the non-wanderer has spent his / her souls progression on Earth through many lifetimes of learning and is still working his way towards the next level. Or at least from his perception of linear time he is. Perception is 99 percent of everything so just stick with perception. Trying to understand it from all angles could result in a trip to the funny farm. We can only see the shadows of the truths in higher dimensional realities. The complexity there is outside of our perception.

Apparently, also according to the law of one, because the "social memory complex" (the way that memories are stored in the 6th dimension) is so much more exotic than the 3rd dimensional body, the memories of the 6th dimension are not lost, however the interface with them is not compatible. Therefore, the wanderer effectively forgets who they where because the memories are not accessible.

It is all so paradoxical that it is like a giant overly complicated Zen Coan. I thought about this stuff for a few months and ended up at the same conclusion that I had arrived at before I started looking into it. The main priority for anyone should be to allow themselves to be in the moment with the least cluttered mind you possibly can have. This way weather you are a wanderer from some other star system or a bear in the forest you can allow yourself to have a clear vector on what your instincts are telling you to do right now. When it comes right down to it what you where when weather it was an ascended being or a Jester in the kings court, it has really no bearing on what your higher self is trying to convey to you now. Focus your intentions on connecting to the higher self and it will all sort itself out.

[tone3jaguar]

Tone3Jaguar, I know that most or nearly all of the symbols in a dream have a meaning unique to the person having the dream. However, as far as I understand there are a few symbols that have basically the same meaning regardless of whose dream it is.

One of these symbols is that of a car, and it represents a human's life, or the course of their life. That would suggest to me your dream indicates that many elite individuals' glitzy, materialistic lives will get wrecked in some big way. And that maybe instead of worrying about evolving your own life (the police car) through improving some superficial side of it, you're growing stronger in a more dramatic and quick way through your knowledge or insight, as you say.

Anything is possible, dreams are a holographic rorschach test. I gleamed my explanation while meditating on it and then after the meditation asked the Pasarions through dowsing if I had nailed in and the pendulum swung yes. If I had specifically asked them to give me a dream that represented something that I need to know about my life then I would probably have interpreted it the similar way that you did. However, my intention was for them to convey to me what I needed to know about the world.

[orthodoxymoron]

There's some pretty heavy and abstract stuff on this thread! It seems that the PTB are desperate...and are running faster and faster on a tightrope. I think the elite are in a lot more trouble than the peons. We're all in trouble...I think. Knowledge and truth will be key to setting us free. Even the bad-guys want to be free.

[tone3jaguar]

9/25/09

810 Craft parked around / near earth

55 species Total

Note: The number of species peaked a couple of days ago, however the number of ships arriving is going up every day. Perhaps the reason there are not 57 species is because the only 2 species of a-hole ET's are not invited to the party? I say this because Sgt. Clifford Stone said that they where aware of 57 species visiting Earth back when he was deep in it.

[Lionhawk]

Something is going on!

Six weeks ago I received what I call my BIBLE orders. Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth

I was pulled up into a spherical ship that is currently orbiting the Planet, astrally. The briefing took about 4 hours. A couple of weeks went by and I found myself in another briefing. This one was different. When I came to, the inside of my head was full of white light. The letters, PTAAH, were glowing on my forehead in white letters. The letters also represented a seal to the conference that took place. I had thought that I had seen this name before and I also thought it was Egyptian. As it turns out, it is the name of the Plejaren's Fleet Commander. Blew me away.

Since then, I have been going through what I call closure hoops. Closure on so many things which includes a total disconnect to all of my Earth family. That would include my friends as events have been occurring that have plowed all these Earthly attachments to the side. I have one friend left and no one else outside of a handful of light warriors I work with. Since March all this has been occurring. But here lately it has been escalating and I have no idea what is coming next. I am currently resting from a terrible trip that I just returned from Tuesday evening that would make anyone's head spin. I covered better than 6000 miles in two weeks. By truck, by thumb, and by bus. Never go Greyhound!

My trip was also validated and had to be done because my ties with my only daughter had to be severed in person. That was a bummer. But I had to release her on all levels. Not because I wanted that either. I also have this documented and have the emails to back up these developments.

I have a few things left to do to release all of of my material assets such as my boat and truck. I will take care of all this next week.

Is anyone else going through anything similar?

On the number of races out there, my numbers are much higher. I average 180. I was averaging in the 30s back in the early seventies. There has been a fleet out there for months and possibly years, coming and going all the time.

Another thing that has been very active are my guides. Before all this latest activity, my guides just sat there and did hardly anything but stare at me. They are a mix bag and of the very young and the very old. When I touched base with them when all this first started, the old ones were running around. I have never seen them do that before. So something has changed as far as plans go.

So if everyone would at least try to go within and see what is happening within you and share it with us, it may give us some more clues as to what is going and how soon things will begin to unfold.

Namaste'

[Myplanet2]

In My Opinion, many of us are being aided so we can be where we need to be, and so we will be free to do what we'll need to do. For many of us, this means shedding those attachments to 3D reality which would be an encumbrance in the next short while.

For most of the people I've interacted with and discussed this issue with, it's usually mostly about shedding our accustomed 3D tools of linear mental origin. But for some it is more drastic, and a real shake up is needed to permit the becoming and doing which are about to arrive.

Many are now stepping up when reminded of agreements to help out in the ongoing transition.

Yes guides are VERY active right now, and it's very interesting that you point out the young and old aspect. I hadn't connected those two dots, but now that you mention it, it is much more the case than not. Several people I know who have recently come into conscious contact with their guides have mentioned the presence of young and old. And also some, or several higher dimensional guides as well, mostly from the 7th to the 10th dimensions.

I know of a few who've had their lives implode/explode along with the knowingness that it was for good reason, like that they've taken some turns which placed them in circumstances other than those which would serve them in this time, or which would permit them to be of service to others.

Also of potential applicability to this is some comments I heard Jim Self make in some of his webinars recently, that there was a great deal of excitement at some of us progressing beyond all expectation, and actually going the extra distance of transmuting their physical bodies into Crystaline light bodies. This would necessarily require them to be free to make such a leap without scaring the bejeesus out of their friends and families. Last count was over 7,000 such occurances. Some have moved on to the higher realms, while some stayed on here in earths etheric/energetic realms to pave the way, so to speak, and adjust the grid as necessary to aid in the alignment already underway.

I agree this would be helpful to compare notes on.

PS, Lionhawk. Your sig line sounds like something that would come from my Arcturian guides.

[tone3jaguar]

A year ago I had the sudden urge to get rid of all belongings that I did not need. I ditched all of it with exception of what I needed that would fit in the car. It was liberating and I am now capable of being totally mobile. I have been working with beings from the 4th - 23rd dimensions for a couple of years now and my paradigm of what is important has been flipped on its head. I now sit around thinking about how I can erase what little codependency I have left in my life and get excited about it.

When I was sitting in the Vortex sites in Sedona I was getting a huge download of information. One of the things in that packet of information was the logistics of the first wave of ascended people from this society.

Everyone on Earth has gotten at least 3 geometric shifts to the etheric DNA in the subtle bodies. However, the ET's have identified a core group of people where they use their consciousness technology to induce more Etheric DNA shifts. This is in preparation for going through the ascension inducing technology that they have. They will give these people the opportunity to go through this technology after they show up and make their presence known.

These people will be special because they will be able to interact with the 3d reality while having various levels of ascended abilities. They must do the ascension process in this step by step way because if they induced all of the aspects of the etheric DNA at once it would be to tramatic for the individual.

One thing that I found was that the way that they have been working on my subtle energy DNA (Now finished with all 9 shifts) is through the use of a holographic green cube that they placed in my rooms where I have slept. I could see it in one of the places where I was staying.

[Lionhawk]

Thanks for the responses. It's good to get feedback once in awhile from those who can share something of original experience. It's always good.

I have to tell you that I have been awake for 49 of my 51 years and have waited such a long time in between for these days. Also that when I reflect inward and do a reality check as to my spiritual agreements, I am GOOOOD! That's also a relief. It's funny that Myplanet2 mention something about phasing into the next level, because that has been a thought here lately. I am also preparing for it. The unexpected as I don't have a clue what is coming next with everything that has transpired these last few months. But I also feel as though I am almost there. Just a few more things to tidy up.

The guides I have are mostly tribal types. The youngest is a Mayan male around what appears to be 8 or 9 and is extremely intelligent. The next one is up an Inca male around 12. Then we make a jump to a Shaman, an old woman, and a Mongolian Warrior. Then I have two spirit animals named Pinnacus, the cougar, and Delphi the hawk. At our meetings we also receive a guest from the outside named Gaia. She likes to come and just sit with us to take a break from what she has been enduring. We know we are in service to her. It is why I am here.

Gaia is the key to all of this. Including what is coming and how it will all unfold. Unfold on a Universal level. The Creator isn't going to allow one of his prized jewels to be slaughtered by any faction. It is about Gaia's ascension. She has also sent out a beacon for assistance and also has requested to go forth and ascend. The Creator has granted that request.

So if you agents who serve your Reptilian masters are listening, your time is at hand. This is not a threat but a fact and you won't be able to prevent it from happening as you think you have done so because you have done so for so long. Your masters won't negotiate on any level and will end up stuck with their own selves to feed on. You will become their new food resource since you also refuse to transform your dark souls to the light side. It is now a waiting game and the more you push it the faster your end is becoming. So keep on pushing it so we can finally move passed this lame and boring existence that you think is all that. You're jailers are coming to make sure no one gets away.

Sorry guys for getting off subject. That just had to be said for Public the record.

MyEarth2,

I understand what you are saying and I appreciate your response. Thanks for standing up and sharing what you know. It would appear that I am on track. We will see what happens as this forum is probably my last bus stop. I will also share everything I know that I can pass on in this forum. I have been reserved about doing that elsewhere but I have come to realize that all the stops must be pulled and any information I know should be shared. Not believed and I make that a big distinction. But if someone can apply what resonates to them and prove it for themselves than I have done my job as it were in service to others. It doesn't mean that if I go to the next level that thsi will also stop. It just means that I might be able to do more. We will see.

Also a great thanks to you tone3jaguar for your take as well and all that you have shared in this thread. I understand that is it often difficult to describe what you have seen and how to put it in those proper words so people can envision what you speak and then the challenge of filtering the info you receive so that it makes some kind of sense not just to you but who you convey it to. That will always be. It is different every time and you have to make it count the first time so that it has value. So if anyone drops the ball on an instance, don't stress out over it as the next instance is around the corner for another try at it. It' all those damn labels to pick from that gets me hung up. hahaha The DNA issue is also at work I know. Having a Crystalline body has it's own positives and negatives and then to have it expand can also be a painful process. I figure I am in the last stages of that transformation to the next level and we are getting there. Trust me as I can feel it.

Thanks again and we still surely stay in touch somewhere in here. I'm not gone yet!

[iainl140285]

PTAH :thumb_yello:
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[Tango]

How many Tone3Jag.....

How JU count'm... dowsing...? [chuckle]

A little tilt of the Bottle.... ? Huh...

Like that Mountain that Greer moved...?

Did you ever think the craft are ours; N' you've been lied to.

OK, Greer's parrot, here... Oh, 'your' THAT Special One.

I'm gone... I tried to hold myself back, But, couldn't... Bwahahahahahah

[iainl140285]

How many Tone3Jag.....

How JU count'm... dowsing...? [chuckle]

A little tilt of the Bottle.... ? Huh...

Like that Mountain that Greer moved...?

Did you ever think the craft are ours; N' you've been lied to.

OK, Greer's parrot, here...

I'm gone... I tried to hold myself back, But, couldn't... Bwahahahahahah

Ours ... now thats interesting.
Defense fleet or staged event?:naughty:
Where might one search for further information on OUR crafts?:original:

[Lionhawk]

I spelled it correctly. PTAAH. The energy signatures also line up, so this was the correct meaning that I gave. At first when I woke up, I just thought it was Egyptian since I also don't read or research everything that is out there. It would take forever. One member of the ground crew I work with is the one who informed me of the Egyptian Ptah and that didn't line up in terms of energy. But thanks anyway!

[Tango]

You are one of the more talented here.... I do not want to corrupt; frontload;
preload you...

Go inside, do your own VUE... As this frequency increases you'll see more
clearly... Space them out... Come at it. from different Angles.

Why... Do, you think Parson's Labs was for later... JPL...

Don't 'parrot' Anyone else's words... And, I respect the Sgt.

Would You Iain, lie to you... I don't THINK so. L00K at their bodies...


Tango

Ours ... now thats interesting.
Defense fleet or staged event?:naughty:
Where might one search for further information on OUR crafts?:original:

[tone3jaguar]

Wow, Tango came into a thread of mine and made ambiguous comments. There is a new idea.

[tone3jaguar]

I need a can of this. No scratch that, I need a case of this.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/258Troll_spray.jpg

[tone3jaguar]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/TrollsBrainandmemory.gif

[orthodoxymoron]

Now that's funny!!!:lol3::naughty::lmao::mfr_lol:

Perhaps our hardware and their software are in high Earth orbit. Is it showtime? Or is it show and tell...as in show up and tell us what to do?:mfr_omg::lightsabre:

[Tango]

I agree...... That's Funny... Bwahahahahah....

I thought you'd be out chasing {bleeped by moderator - K.}

But, That's funny... Oh, YOUR thread... I thought It

Was your Forum... Bwahahahaha... Your so SPECIAL I've been told

about You Special one's... And, the word is 'were' Not where.

Soon, it'll be Tone3Jag's Camelot & Avalon website.


Tango

[Karen]

Tango - enough!
You too Tone3

Guideline # 1
TREAT OTHERS WITH RESPECT

Disagreeing with various data points is a natural, healthy part of an investigation. Unfortunately, many skeptics choose to act in an arrogant, condescending and superior manner because they do not agree with someone or something.

We do require that our members be treated with respect. If a member’s conduct is seen to hurt the community spirit of the group, they will be unsubscribed. Generally individual posts will be moderated first, and thus not appear on the list, before the member is unsubscribed.

[Lionhawk]

At around 9 PM, I shut down the computer and went to take a nap. I got up and turn the computer on and XP won't load due to the Hall.dll file was corrupted or missing. That was a first for me. Obviously I recovered from that. But I wonder if it was something I have said here in this forum that has gotten someone's attention. I say that because that was a very critical file for the system. Probably the most critical. I have been around these devices for 20 solid years and that was a first for me. Just goes to show that there is always something new that could go wrong I guess.

I guess I also missed out on some activity. Bummer activity it looks like. Desperate agents everywhere. I don't know how you do it Karen. I had a website that I just had to shut down because of the financial crash I told you about. It was called, "Galactic Frontline." I also had a forum there and we actually got a lot done exposing the tactics, the who's, and the whats, of the darkside. We used that forum to report our findings. We discovered that the darkside have duplicated everything that is of the light and use those duplicates to manipulate their agenda. We also blew the lid on what is really going with all the channeled material out there. I have only discovered one uncorrupted source as far as channeled material goes. There maybe a few more but I haven't discovered them yet. So beware folks of any channeled messages. They are not what they appear to be. They are based in the second hand and we know where that leads. We had a few, I guess you call them trolls, but they couldn't take the frequencies we were operating on. So we had very few situations there. Now if everyone who is capable, anchor your energies into this forum there by turning up the carrier frequency, it would give Karen and all the other Mods some relief from their troll sitting duties. It works but it is something that you the member can put into action. It would really help if you did.

That's all folks!

[TheObserver]

Yep, you can debate facts, but always try to do it respectfully. And name calling is just silly, i think it says more about the name caller than the callee(?) for lack of a better 'word' but i think you get my drift hopefully.
Anyway play nice, it's funner that way! :original:

[BROOK]

Sorry to hear about that Lionhawk.....I'd like to hear more about PTAAH and the signature energy if your up to it :naughty: This is very interesting indeed

What you said about Billy...I could not agree more...I have felt he has been captive in a sense since the beginning...and this Michael Horn...very bad vibes I get from him..always did...so much so...I cannot listen to him..I have to turn him off when he speaks.
I know that is from another thread..but it's somehow relevant I feel...if I am wrong forgive me..but there seems to be a connection

Not thumping a Bible here but:
He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything

Jesus Christ

All of this information is relevant..and connects the dots

The knowledge is in there...in us...we just have to tap it....and when we do..there might be some things that shock and astound

[JesterTerrestrial]

Bwahahahahah....

What the...

you laughin or crine!!! :naughty:

When it comes right down to it what you where when weather it was an ascended being or a Jester in the kings court, it has really no bearing on what your higher self is trying to convey to you now. Focus your intentions on connecting to the higher self and it will all sort itself out.

Inspiring! Maybe its both! :glasses3: Just ask your higher self for a sign!!! ASK and I bet you will Receive! I have noticed/felt some changes in the energetic fields around me. Today I felt some energy movement that I have not felt for a while. There have also been a few more synchronicity the past couple days like something is brewing. It dose feel like the calm before the CALM! of the golden age. I like what you are doing T3J...keep it up...very interesting post indeed. Please keep sharing!

9/25/09

810 Craft parked around / near earth

55 species Total

Note: The number of species peaked a couple of days ago, however the number of ships arriving is going up every day. Perhaps the reason there are not 57 species is because the only 2 species of a-hole ET's are not invited to the party? I say this because Sgt. Clifford Stone said that they where aware of 57 species visiting Earth back when he was deep in it.



I prefer SHOW AND PROVE.

Lionhawk...amazing ;)

The letters, PTAAH, were glowing on my forehead in white letters.

[Barcarolle]

I guess some people cant take some critisism without letting their EGO manifest, i guess a few people like to TELL us things instead of providing a service (service to self mentality perhaps) i better not dissagree or i may be dowsed as a dark entity right.

Looks like Avalon is begining to pick up in the quality stakes only to be reduced again by EGO of a certain individual - lets not forget Tangos excellent post about the information field last week, short memories some have as they jump bandwagons and support individuals ........... this is like a school yard - grow up people - if you cant be strong enough to handle some critisism then your along way from assention.

I would also love to add something to this thread but i find myself shaking my head........ one step forward and two steps back.

Share the LIGHT, and remain in the LIGHT even when questioned.

Namaste

[feardia]

Wow, Tango came into a thread of mine and made ambiguous comments. There is a new idea.

I thought the purpose of threads was to share information, this thread is full of ambiguous, and even dangerous comments, which tango is right to redicule

23 dimensions- wtf? I'm having enough trouble with 11 and can only get my head around 7
Pasarions?- Never heard of them, anyone else?
dowsing- hmmmm
channelling- trust no one
ascension technology- we do not need technology for what we are going to go through
sedona- i have heard that there is some dangerous stuff coming out of there, not least of which is their ascension technology, which many people have warned about.

There is some good info in these posts, but all information should come with a health warning, the newly awakened can easily be waylaid. Be your own guru, share your information, but do not think you are 'special', we are all special.

Love to all

[Lionhawk]

Brook,

It's all interconnected. Even with this thread that Tone3Jaguar started. It's all good as far as I am concerned. Others might disagree or might have blockages that prevent them to see the beauty in one another. Everyone has their own path and we should honor those paths. It doesn't have to be a persecution on any level no matter how ambiguous it may sound to someone else. These blockages within an individual does not justify them to exercise lower frequency tactics such as ridicule or any form of persecution onto another. It only causes compromise. Which is a common attribute in this duality. This is all second hand information and should not be accepted as your truth until you, yourself can prove it for yourself in the first hand. If the sharing of one's path can trigger something within you that is resonant, then a dialogue to investigate further for the purposes of soul growth should be encouraged. In my book, respect is earned. But that is my book and that works for me. It may not work for someone else and that's alright with me. Whatever floats your boat. If you think that you can cause obstruction onto another, who's path has the right to it's own sovereignty, then there is always going to be discourse. The person doing this will end up owning this discourse. Just another lesson. I don't know about anyone here but when you get tired of learning those lessons over and over and finally realize that the only information that you can't argue with is what you know in the first hand, then things start to make better sense. So if you are new to this, and you want to save yourself a bunch of unneeded grief, realize that second hand information from another path, may not align with you and you will always have to remember that. If you exercise any of the lower tactics, just know that the blocks you are reacting to are within you and not the one you think you are reacting against.

Oh, sorry Brook. I didn't mean to do that. It just comes out. Where were we? Oh yeah, the Billy Meier thing. Also "PTAAH". which by the way is also related to this thread since we have Tone3Jaguar keeping tabs on all these ships. Ptaah as it turns out is the Commander of the Plejaren fleet that is out there right now, close to Earth. I think I mentioned that, they beamed me up there astrally, about 6 weeks ago and then 4 weeks ago. Had two conferences. The first were what is called by George Green, Bible instructions. Watch the video from Camelot, Bill and Kerry. The first conference took place on a craft that was spherical in shape, circling around the Planet. I saw Earth through a window. That was an amazing sight for me. Now pay attention when I say that I am not use to the idea of being on a craft. My first experience with that was when I was very young in my early twenties. A small recon craft astrally beamed me up and I sat between two Plejarens. One was a female and the other was a male. We just went for a ride and as we sped away from the Planet I watched it get smaller. They informed me at that time that it would be some time before they would return and to be patient. What was strange was my memory of them was familiar but I didn't know their names. I still to this day have a problem with names and titles. Do well with numbers though. I haven't been on board anything till just recently since then. Getting back to my Bible instructions, one of the prerequisites was to clear away all of my Earthly ties or attachments. Which was mentioned in another posting in this thread. This has been going since March and then I just returned from a 6000 mile trip which sought closure with a dear friend and my daughter in Salt Lake City. That was a tough one to do. Hard to even explain it. But anyways, the second conference had to do with my new assignments after the Bible instructions were completed.

Now let me just say something here before others decide to make a mistake and go crazy. What you don't know is that I am a simple man. I come from a poor background and have earned my way in my life. I am not here to convince you of what I have experienced, especially here lately. I am only sharing this information in hopes that others will realize that things are escalating so fast now. There are no guarantees and I can't say for sure that I am leaving here in this way, but for me it would seem to be the most logical choice. In other words I don't have to fulfill any entitlements one may "feel". I don't owe anyone anything. So understand that my path is not yours. You decide your own path. I have been as honest as I can be about all this and have pulled all the stops now to share what I know. Unlike many others out there who are exposing the truth, I have lost everything. And I am not crying about it in the sense of a victim. But the facts remain what they are. I have done what I have come here to do for the most part. My contract is nearly complete. The price I have paid to be of service to this Planet is as I said earlier. I have lost everything, which includes all the people I love. So before anyone throws anymore of them stones, hopefully you can see from within your heart and exercise some compassion by not throwing those stones. My attitude is not that I am any more special than anyone else. We all come from the same place and are all equal, but my path is just different. That is all. If you are able to see that then what I share with you, may help you down the road somewhere. That is all I can hope for in those regards. To have survived this path to get to this point is something I hope no one else has to experience. Also to put one's self in the firing line such as the ones exposing the truth, should be considered a real blessing to you as someone is doing a lot of sacrificing so that your awareness of what is really happening in this World may inspire you to become the new Galactic Human. Apply a little logic as well and realize these ones surviving on these front lines don't have much time if any to make this stuff up let alone deal with true hardened skeptics and debunkers who are to lazy to jump in and become part of the "soulution" by proving one shred of evidence on their own. It is real easy to sit on the fence and just watch it all happen before you. Heckle all you want as the price for that will be your very life. This whole scenario is being revealed and the truth is just plain ugly. Many will go into shock. The candy coating will just melt away. The integrity within those souls will be lost. It is a choice not based in ambiguity but of free agency. Just don't make it from ignorance! Savy?

There I went on again Brook. Micheal Horn. I see a serpent. An intelligent one who is laughing at everyone. I also get an evil stench. This guy and his path is not connected to ours. He is not of Divinity. Now that is the exception. Why, because he is against everything we are. We have every right to protect ourselves from these types. His day is coming. He is just one of many where this applies.

On that note and all the notes above, we will see you later in the day. Been up all night.

Namaste' Brook and everyone else in here in this thread! Even Tango.

[Tango]

Yes... We have ALL been warned from the time we were all very young about

following a false GOD. When one comes HERE and brings information about

parrot ed information of others No, It is My Duty... To sound the alarm...

Do NOT follow the leader... But, go within to find the truth... Your consciousness

will NOT lie to You. You, will Not Lie to You. Believe in YOU. Don't get sucked

into what one that says. I have this information; because I am Special.
And,

I have gotten rid of all my personal property, goods, relationships. Because, it

is time to go... Yes, I risk being banned for sounding the alarm. But, I've been

wounded before. Yes. I am guilty of Not listening to all the Camelot videos.

As I don't want to be corrupted by one's that profess to have Special
Information. Because " They are Special ".... We've been warned how many
times. Who, put Jesus on that cross....? Was it the Roman's or the Jewish
elders....? The devil has quite a bag of tricks to use...

But, I only ask that You go within for the truth... I believe You should Love

and take care of your families, friends, loved one's. DO NOT believe one's that

say get rid of your personal property; families, loved one's... In fact I say

hold them close, it is 'Your' responsibility to protect them and your and their

spirit. When one profess' " I stood in a vortex and was downloaded with this

or that Special Information because I am Special." I am forced, No its My Duty

rise and call out " Do NOT be corrupted, front loaded, pre loaded." But, believe

in YOU. It is NOT go along; to get along... That, is how we got in this mess.

That is HOW Jesus got stuck on that cross, by the Jewish elders working the

Romans... And, it happened in the U.S. a hundred years ago... Here, we will

provide You with this money system; and it will be Good, alll will prosper...

Gen. Butler, arose and called out, and I ask you... " Who listened ".... I

called a warning to the Mod's in the past. Not One, not even One listened.

I've stayed up all nite, to watch over this Site, faught off sleep. To watch;

Awoke with the side of my face on the keyboard as I wrote a pm. I Pay it

Forward each and everyday, to help who I can. And, I only ask one thing;

For YOU to believe in YOU... The Information which You recieve. I will tell you

that the reason you are here is for YOUR consciousness. To create what

THEY need to control YOU. I don't want Iain, corrupted. I will also say I have

Never, Ever believed anything channeled... I do believe in dowsing if done

correctly, as Ed used it to locate the site of Coral Castle. However, it is a

Tool, if you willl. If ships should land, I wouldn't recommend going to one.

I also don't recommend You reduce your belongings to a carload. You must

protect your spirit. Mods, do what you will with me... And, I under-

stand your position... You've NOT listened in the PAST. And, to Tone3Jag.

dowse Me... Because some here know my background and WHO I am; why

I'm here. And, with that I leave YOUR PERSONAL thread... Tone3jag. But,

I will NOT leave YOUR forum. Dowse ME. I will NOT defend myself, take a

look. I will back away now... As, once again the Mods protect YOU.

Be well all of you... But, be safe. Believe in YOU. I also, request that you

NOT believe any of My writings. As I want YOU to discover the truth.

Dowse That. I remove any and all protection I've held for this site.


Verry trooly yours,


Tango

[Steven]

There is something brewing here, that's for sure... In the middle of this husk, I'll make a very invisible comment.

Many whistleblowers, Alex Collier being very detailed about it, have mentioned it. There is a gathering in our solar system.

But what's brewing inside each of us is most interesting... I bet that's why "they" are here.

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

...Do NOT follow the leader... But, go within to find the truth... Your consciousness will NOT lie to You. You, will Not Lie to You. Believe in YOU. Don't get sucked into some what one that says. I have this information; because I am Special...

...Yes, I risk being banned for sounding the alarm...I will tell you

that the reason you are here is for YOUR consciousness...

It is all true, but I trust everyone here is mature enough to integrate this knowledge. We can see clearly the hidden intention behinds words and thoughts, intuition do not lie...

On the other hand, we clearly see the Law of Attraction in play here. :original:

You will not be banned Tango.

Namaste, Steven

[Lionhawk]

Tango,

Forgive me for asking, but what happened to you? You sound wounded. Really hurt? Even your words are confusing and I'm not saying that to make you look bad. I don't even know who you are but the energy I am reading off your latest post is not what you are capable of. You sound like you have a handle on this stuff and yet your wording with the word believing just seems to jumble what you really mean. I'm just trying to understand and that is all. I am a little surprised as to your responses and yet maybe I should keep my nose out of it.

Has something happened outside of this forum that has cause you this pain? Then maybe you went to the forum looking for something or someone to relate with and didn't find what you were looking for as far as a real friend?

You sound like you got left out in the cold.

Just trying to understand as I know some days everything just goes to poo.

Namaste'

[Barcarolle]

Update on numbers as of this moment for anyone keeping score is 7,623 people have assended, as mentioned previously by Jim Self sep 17 the number was 7,103, he mentioned that they are cheering us on watching us.

[Sarahmay]

Update on numbers as of this moment for anyone keeping score is 7,623 people have assended, as mentioned previously by Jim Self sep 17 the number was 7,103, he mentioned that they are cheering us on watching us.

Thanks for this info, and getting this thread back on track.

[tone3jaguar]

You mean there are people who don't like the stuff I post? Whatever, I am not loosing any sleep over it.

Posted By Ferdia
I thought the purpose of threads was to share information, this thread is full of ambiguous, and even dangerous comments, which tango is right to redicule


So you have justifications for ridicule? Good luck with that paradigm. I once new a few people in middle school that had a philosophy like that.

I guess some people cant take some critisism without letting their EGO manifest, i guess a few people like to TELL us things instead of providing a service (service to self mentality perhaps) i better not dissagree or i may be dowsed as a dark entity right.

Here we go again with the demonizing of the ego. Yes I have an ego and I use it constructively. It is called duality, this stuff about not standing up for yourself because the "new age" movement has deemed all individualistic and confident personalities as the evil ego is in my opinion just another ploy to get us to be more submissive. Nice try, I am not a push over.

Tango is a Troll, here is the first ever post I saw him make in Avalon. This was during a mature constructive conversation / thread about the Steven Greer Interview.

You, MAY want to ask the same of Oprah...

Or, any other TV or Cable Anchor, Host, or Interviewer...

The lense adds weight... Kerry, knows that, it's 101.

And, it wasn't a complaint, it was an observation.
Here, give us 10 names of weighted interviewers...
Its, More for females than males. I don't make the
rules. We just have to live with them.

It's the same as the stunt on the stage. She's just lucky
it was someone like, Bob Dean that she pulled that on,
Someone else might have walked off the stage.

When camelot started it was about 'recording' history.
Now the recorder [honorable job] as it was; Now, wants fame.

I've seen this happen before! Can you deal with the
out come... The herd here at PC/PA has thinned. Wonder why?

When it all comes crashing down, and someone has to be kept
after school; are YOU going to stick around and pay all the bills ?
When one has a good product going, you don't change the blueprint.
Just look at the numbers... They speak for themselves. They don't lie...
Kerry, had a good thing going in the beginning. It is a business. You
know, book keeping and such...

Doubt Me.... You'll seee...

Tango

" I'm not dancing around this one."


Then a few posts later

First Kerry " Does NOT belong in front of the camera." She has a weight
gain thang going on, also she tries to hide it by wearing Black. Hon, just
push the potatoes away, girl... See, in the past with her behind the camera
we don't see those arms flayling around... And, behind the camera she
doesn't tap or poke the guest... In the past two camera's were used to
give more of a POV... To use one camera and go from a three shot to a
one shot then a two shot cutting out Bill, was in very poor taste. Greer's
head twisting back and forth made it appear as tho he was confused...
And, the background was terrible. This is why a blue background is
normally used... Or velvet would have NOT shown where it was folded.
Hell, even a white wall would have been better. It looked amature...
carelessly put together.


I will continue to stand up for myself, I don't care if half the forum (not likely) turns against me in the process. I am just sharing what I am coming up with, and I am not telling anyone what to do with the information or what it means. If people want to get defensive because I post some things that are enigmatic and strange then perhaps the reader should look into what kind of motives the people playing the victim have.

So, the people that are in here to specifically distract the reader away from information that they do not like, or perhaps have even been tasked to pretend to not like the info, can come in hords and I will keep posting what ever the f--k I want to.

And Tango, "we have all been warned about following a false god". What in the world does that have to do with anything posted in this thread. Shew troll shew. You all are just throwing gasoline on my fire.

[feardia]

tj3,
A lot of ego in defence here bro, but no substance.

23 dimensions, the tsarions, chipped at sedona- i discern that this is dangerous information. Be your own guru by all means, but don't expect to recruit converts, none of us has all the answers and we have been down the rabbit hole long enough to know unsubstantiated bs when we see it,
one love, people get ready...

[tone3jaguar]

Update, 9/27/09

823 Ships

55 Species

[feardia]

bring it on
:lightsabre:

[Karen]

As, once again the Mods protect YOU.

Tango I don't know why you say this - I've got personal things to attend to today - and I'll get back with you later - your posts are sometimes quite difficult to interpret and as of yesterday I haven't had enough time to do anything but quickly skim.

[tone3jaguar]

tj3,
A lot of ego in defence here bro, but no substance.

23 dimensions, the tsarions, chipped at sedona- i discern that this is dangerous information. Be your own guru by all means, but don't expect to recruit converts, none of us has all the answers and we have been down the rabbit hole long enough to know unsubstantiated bs when we see it,
one love, people get ready...

This universe has 8 dimensions. Once you cross the multiversal barrier it goes all the way up to 23 dimensions. The 23rd being pure source energy where universes are born from. It is not relevant information for anyones path, however I think it is interesting to think about. Dangerous? How exactly?

Tsarions? Isn't that the last name of one of Jordan Maxwell's deciples? I said that they are called the Pasarions. Dangerous? How exactly?

Chipped at Sedona? Where exactly did you get that from? The Sedona vortex sites open up into hyperdimensional information conduits during every full moon. This was conveyed to me while at Bell Rock by an ancient American Indian shaman spirit named black feather.

I am not trying to recruit anyone, perhaps you did not read the post I just made in the Camelot Radio thread

Posted By Me in the "camelot radio (a valiant attempt)varitas seems to be the show to carry the torch" (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16694) thread.

I feel sorry for anyone who is looking for a leader or leaders outside of themselves that are either purposefully or innocently creating a timeline where difficult things happen. People should not be encouraged to follow anyone down any particular timeline. They should be encouraged to look within themselves and find what future is best for them.

The reality that "so and so" has created for themselves with their personal core beliefs is not locked in of everyone. Everyone is not going to experience the same chain of event leading up to 2012. This is why it is imperative for people to listen to information and decide for themselves what is true and what is not. Guess what, there is more than one truth and there are millions of parallel timelines created from all of those truths. Choose your timeline, do not let Camelot, George Green, or anyone else choose it for you.

You and you alone have the power to shape the reality you experience over the next couple of years and do not let anyone lead you away from that power when they attempt to evangelize your truth for you. Learn from the mistakes of religions of the past that have locked people into one version of reality and brake free from this vicious cycle of giving away your power.

[feardia]

I think there is a divergence in our timelines, i'll stick to 11 dimensions (and a possible 12th) and us on our way to the 5th, I trust no aliens and would be very concerned about what is being beamed into sedona (cydonia) from the moon,
good journey...

[tone3jaguar]

Well neither one of us can prove which one of us is right, this does not make either of our informations dangerous. They are just opinions. Fearing what one does not understand is the roadblock that dogma instills in people. This roadblock is not there by accident.

[feardia]

No harm to you bro, from what I am hearing you are in a very dangerous situation having anything to do with ascension through technology and the aliens with the bright light of conditional love is a very precarious path to be travelling, and that is not discerned through dowsing or channeling, that is me talking as a citizen of this planet using my own discernment and information from a number of sources which concur e.g Alex Collier, george Kavassalis, Ashana Deane and numerous others.

DO NOT GET ON THE SHIPS

[khristmaskathy]

It is my hope that there are beings out there who are here to help humanity and that we can also help ourselves through the troubled times ahead.

I enjoy reading everyone's comments and love this website. I wish for you blessings and much joy always...

[BROOK]

Brook,

It's all interconnected. Even with this thread that Tone3Jaguar started. It's all good as far as I am concerned. Others might disagree or might have blockages that prevent them to see the beauty in one another. Everyone has their own path and we should honor those paths. It doesn't have to be a persecution on any level no matter how ambiguous it may sound to someone else. These blockages within an individual does not justify them to exercise lower frequency tactics such as ridicule or any form of persecution onto another. It only causes compromise. Which is a common attribute in this duality. This is all second hand information and should not be accepted as your truth until you, yourself can prove it for yourself in the first hand. If the sharing of one's path can trigger something within you that is resonant, then a dialogue to investigate further for the purposes of soul growth should be encouraged. In my book, respect is earned. But that is my book and that works for me. It may not work for someone else and that's alright with me. Whatever floats your boat. If you think that you can cause obstruction onto another, who's path has the right to it's own sovereignty, then there is always going to be discourse. The person doing this will end up owning this discourse. Just another lesson. I don't know about anyone here but when you get tired of learning those lessons over and over and finally realize that the only information that you can't argue with is what you know in the first hand, then things start to make better sense. So if you are new to this, and you want to save yourself a bunch of unneeded grief, realize that second hand information from another path, may not align with you and you will always have to remember that. If you exercise any of the lower tactics, just know that the blocks you are reacting to are within you and not the one you think you are reacting against.
Your insight here is pin point accuracy :thumb_yello:

We all have a path...and the sharing of knowledge is wonderful...however...things when filtered through the conscious...perceived by the EGO....can be tricky at best....to top it off..the programing methods of the ones who fight this enlightenment, and findings of this important knowledge...can really confuse the messages.
Therefore learning what you can, then filtering as much as you can through "knowing" firsthand the truth and learning the purpose of your path is the key as far as I can see it...and that is exactly as I see it....maybe not how you perceive it...and you must learn that the truth you seek is just that as well..filtered by the programming and forces that "don't want you to know" the TRUTH.

Now, I have been on this forum for a year now..and have never spoken about these things...however, some of the posts by you Lionhart, have sparked a memory...not one that was forgotten..but one I choose to forget for a while until the time came that it would be of purpose...and exactly where to apply that knowledge.
I have been visited all my life...from the age of three...and even just recently..I had the marks to show me it was real....and when I was around 27...I actually dug an implant out of my leg...still have the scar...it won't go away. And I know there are other implants....anytime I get close to the truth....and ever since I have been on a path of enlightenment ...Migraine headaches triger...I, who have never had a migraine in my life..suffer now and have been for about the last 9 years...and there is no medicine that will stop it...it's just something I have had to learn to live with....but I know after years of cat scans, MRI, and waves of different types of drugs..that nothing will work..and...I know that anytime I try to remember..they trigger.
I have seen my past life...and I have seen brief glimpses of the future..the parts i am directly involved with...and all the implants they can put in me have not been able to repress that part of me....thankfully.

So...Lionhawk...my memory spark was the "PTAAH"...and it indeed must have an energy imprint connected with it..because as soon as you described it...I felt it. This anyone here can call "bs" on...I am not afraid of the ridicule anymore...in fact I spread the word to everyone I know and care about, in preparation for the coming events...and some will joke with me and say.."hay brook, have you seen any ufos lately"....but they know I'm not completely off my rocker, as they know the job I do to earn a living ...and the sanity I must maintain to do the job, goes hand in hand...so in other words..they know I'm not a complete "loon"..therefore when the time comes..the seed has been planted..for the "wake up"...which indeed is coming soon..hence the gravitation to this thread...and it's title "Something is brewing, HMMMM"

Indeed something is brewing...and things are moving at a pace that is hard to keep up with...so guys...lets get it together..and figure out a plan...to fulfill your path and mine, and anyone else who is on the path to bring us to the next level of evolution....it will be well worth the effort to put our minds together...and filter the truth and start to understand our true purpose here at this time.

Brook

[BROOK]

I think there is a divergence in our timelines, i'll stick to 11 dimensions (and a possible 12th) and us on our way to the 5th, I trust no aliens and would be very concerned about what is being beamed into sedona (cydonia) from the moon,
good journey...

I'm not sure what is in Sedona now...but I was called there about 4 years ago...by my guides...to glimpse exactly what these "bad" guys did to me before...it was ugly..and they are muderous scum, trying to divert the paths of everyone.

So I'll say it again...let's get back on path and not let their perceived control divert us...I know we have it in us to discern the truth

[Myplanet2]

The healing energies and demands that we handle our stuff are out through the roof. Ignore the impetus and opportunity at your peril. There is a huge triggering going on, and it's for the purpose of dredging up what must become the focus for the personal spot light, and then it leaves, never to return. It's also natural to project what is coming up from within us onto others, because old habits die hard. But this is all getting better, unless you refuse to do your work.

The only place any real work is taking place is within us. Steven is right that that is also what all the interest we are receiving from out and about is focused on.

We are pioneering this shift, because it's never happened before that a planet ascended with a conscious population on board. We're along for this ride, or we hit the off ramp (die). ( A soup of circumstantial data is shaping up towards there being upwards of a billion people who know they will not be able to ride this out, and who will there for find their exit ticket along the way. Dowse THAT one T3J.:naughty:)

Earth is headed for the 5th, and it is impossible for us to stay on her back without ourselves ascending to at least the 5th.

What we need is being provided. What ever path we are on, the clues for us to chase down are being left in our path (not necessarily by someone or something else. we are ourselves multidimensional and just because we have parts of that shut off at the moment doesn't mean it isn't active)

Where we are going, we can not take our baggage with us. It won't fit through the proverbial door.

If you are triggered, be thankful, because it's just showing you what's next for you to deal with.

I saw some incorrect statements about channeled work, unless we are looking at different things. I've gained more, personally since reading and listening to channeled works than in several thousand years of wallowing around in the dark. Of course personal discernment is always key, and you must never "believe" anything you encounter without confirming it with your intuition, and reading the energy signature for resonance with your own frequency.

And I very highly recommend that you find a way to be in personal contact with your guides as quickly as you can manage it. Nobody knows when the shift proceeds. Most of what we are now doing is in terms of preparation. packing for the trip. cleaning out the garage ahead of the move. Earth too. She's undergoing the same turmoil that we are, lightening her load as well, so to speak.

We have more friends now than we can count. There is so much help available. Just listen. With your heart. It won't speak through your mind (unless you've already connected through your heart.)

My own personal work is sped up to many hundreds of times normal pace. I'm going through the ringer, but I've never been happier and more free since entering this game of 3D, here on earth.

Enjoy yourselves. keep it light. And by all means, do your work. It's both the easiest and most difficult thing ever. But what a joy each accomplishment is.

Love you all.

[tone3jaguar]

No harm to you bro, from what I am hearing you are in a very dangerous situation having anything to do with ascension through technology and the aliens with the bright light of conditional love is a very precarious path to be travelling, and that is not discerned through dowsing or channeling, that is me talking as a citizen of this planet using my own discernment and information from a number of sources which concur e.g Alex Collier, george Kavassalis, Ashana Deane and numerous others.

DO NOT GET ON THE SHIPS

I have never heard a single story from anyone that visited any of the Sedona Vortex sites that has had a negative experience unless they slipped and injured themselves on the sand stone which does not count.

I do not look to people that are popular for the answers, I look for the answers myself. What so and so has to say about where we are headed and what is safe and what is not safe is irrelevant to my path. I did not even listen pas the first 5 min of Colliers presentation on the U-stream because he was preaching a dogma.

There is a huge difference between the way I present information and the way that others do. I show people what I have learned and then state that they should make up their own minds weather or not the information is important enough for them to integrate into their paradigms.

Where as others, not naming names, would stand up in front of thousands of people and evangelize the version of reality that they have adopted as if everyone should buy into it. That is dogma and giving away ones power to shape the future that is ahead of them. I do not care if it is the Dali Lama, Alex Collier, George Green, Pat Robertson, or who ever. If you buy into other peoples explanations of how things are then you are allowing others to construct your reality for you. Not figuratively, actually changing your future to be congruent with theirs.

It is like the Hopi said over a year ago in the message that they released

"Find your water and let the current take it where it will"

Not

"Find somebody elses water and get in their canoe and ride the rapids with them"

[Swanny]

No disrespect to anyone but I'm glad there are people like Tango here to speak out about what they feel is wrong. Long live freedom of speech :thumb_yello:

[Tango]

Hey.... Tone3jag... U said your completely mobile... Do you have your stuff

in the car right Now... The computer your on; yours or someone else's...

Are U staying with friends, relatives; do you have a weapon in the car with

you...?

Trooly,


Tango

[Lionhawk]

Ahhh! Brook that is wonderful to hear. I just got here and to hear you say what you did, kind of floors me in away. Well my dearest, you are not alone anymore if that is something I can say. Maybe the fire I started is starting to get bigger. That calls for a celebration. We can put all the logs on that fire now and there is no stopping it. That includes anyone else who wants to just put down their baggage and join a little party. A company of great spirits sounds like what the Doctor ordered. Leave your limits at the door and expand ourselves. Be free for a day without lugging around our blocks around our necks. Crack some jokes and lighten up. What say you people? Why not make light of the lives you have endured so far instead of jumping around like fleas on a Planet that could use some hugs, compassion, a little joy, and some freedom to express our true selves. Brook came out of hiding and why don't we start there and go on down the line?

Also thank-yous go out to all of you that have sent private messages to my inbox and the friends who have brought over my favorite pie. ahahahahaaa
It is all good and please don't feel like I am blowing anyone off as I have been very busy and I'm actually kind of slow to these new gadgets that I have never seen before.

What say you? Oh, lets keep those counters going though. Something we can look forward too.

[feardia]

I have never heard a single story from anyone that visited any of the Sedona Vortex ...

...It is like the Hopi said over a year ago in the message that they released

"Find your water and let the current take it where it will"

Not

"Find somebody elses water and get in their canoe and ride the rapids with them"

whatever floats your boat, I know my truth, and i am sure you know yours, i dont listen to everything alex c says or b&k for that matter, but there is truth everywhere, and for you there is probably a little bit of truth in what you are saying, i jumped into the river long ago, it is taking me home, i am enjoying the ride, i hope you do too,
DONT GET ON THE SHIPS
and the flu vaccine might be a bit dodgy too, just my intuition,
one love, people get ready....

[tone3jaguar]

Hey.... Tone3jag... U said your completely mobile... Do you have your stuff

in the car right Now... The computer your on; yours or someone else's...

Are U staying with friends, relatives; do you have a weapon in the car with

you...?

Trooly,


Tango

Nope, I have two portable tool bags full of my tools, three 10 gal. plastic containers with the essentials in it, and clothes. I am on a laptop, it is my only computer. I do not need weapons, if I get into trouble I have other means of defending myself. Staying currently at my fathers house. This is the first time in a decade that I have not been paying rent.

This is because some arrogant illuminati loosers politically forced me from my position as head golf course superintendent at XYZ club in SWF. Luckly I have no debt other than the car payments, therefore the unemployment is more than enough to pay the bills.

The douche bags who cost me my job thought they won a battle. In reality they just gave me 6 mths. of needed R and R. I have tried to start up my own consulting business. This is very slow going because most people do not have any spare change to pay for metaphysical work.

Therefore, I am doing my best to keep my mind fresh and creativity flowing with the blog I created and have been enjoying this change of pace. I feel as though it will soon be time for me to make a move. Just waiting on the intuitive flash I need to lead me in the right direction.

[Tango]

Give me your word that if you start to lose it... You'll get help...

Also, promise me You won't hurt anyone; N' I'll stand down...

Do you Understand... ? Or, I'm going to send someone to talk to you...

Are You eating...?

Trooly,


Tango

Nope, I have two portable tool bags full of my tools, three 10 gal. plastic containers with the essentials in it, and clothes. I am on a laptop, it is my only computer. I do not need weapons, if I get into trouble I have other means of defending myself. Staying currently at my fathers house. This is the first time in a decade that I have not been paying rent.

This is because some arrogant illuminati loosers politically forced me from my position as head golf course superintendent at XYZ club in SWF. Luckly I have no debt other than the car payments, therefore the unemployment is more than enough to pay the bills.

The douche bags who cost me my job thought they won a battle. In reality they just gave me 6 mths. of needed R and R. I have tried to start up my own consulting business. This is very slow going because most people do not have any spare change to pay for metaphysical work.

Therefore, I am doing my best to keep my mind fresh and creativity flowing with the blog I created and have been enjoying this change of pace. I feel as though it will soon be time for me to make a move. Just waiting on the intuitive flash I need to lead me in the right direction.

[feardia]

Give me your word that if you start to lose it... You'll get help...

Also, promise me You won't hurt anyone; N' I'll stand down...

Do you Understand... ? Or, I'm going to send someone to talk to you...

Are You eating...?

Trooly,


Tango

I think there is cause for concern all right, hmmmmmm:wink2:...

[Anchor]

Do you Understand... ? Or, I'm going to send someone to talk to you...

Tango,

this is entirely inappropriate for a public forum

You have been warned to be respectful to other members many times.

Now you are making what appears to be to be some kind of veiled threat. For goodness sake man - what are you thinking?

You have made quality contributions to this forum that have earned you a fair bit of slack, but the slack is not there anymore.

A..

[Christo888]

Update on numbers as of this moment for anyone keeping score is 7,623 people have assended, as mentioned previously by Jim Self sep 17 the number was 7,103, he mentioned that they are cheering us on watching us.

Hmmmm ..... I don't have a clue as to what this means!

Who is Jim Self and where are these people going?

[Tango]

I'm trying to help someone....

Make sure he's eating... Or, I will get him fed...

Are You going to Help Him... Or, Are you going to let me...?

Its a threat to make sure some is eating...? Veiled...

Tango


Tango,

this is entirely inappropriate for a public forum

You have been warned to be respectful to other members many times.

Now you are making what appears to be to be some kind of veiled threat. For goodness sake man - what are you thinking?

You have made quality contributions to this forum that have earned you a fair bit of slack, but the slack is not there anymore.

A..

[tone3jaguar]

What now? Please form complete sentences.

[tone3jaguar]

Tango, I am going to assume that was an innocent comment that did not mean that you would actually attempt to have someone come after me. There have been those that have tried to come after me in the past and they never achieved the mission. You might want to check with your keepers before you push this any further.

[Tango]

Are You eating.....? N0 Yes I'm Offering Help...



Tango, I am going to assume that was an innocent comment that did not mean that you would actually attempt to have someone come after me. There have been those that have tried to come after me in the past and they never achieved the mission. You might want to check with your keepers before you push this any further.

[Myplanet2]

Hmmmm ..... I don't have a clue as to what this means!

Who is Jim Self and where are these people going?

Jim Self is a teacher/healer/lecturer. Jim describes an observation that many humans are transforming themselves into crystaline light bodies without going through the death cycle. Many are now doing energetic work to help raise and balance things for stability sake and to enable others to follow their pioneering lead.

Most of the craft in orbit are watching the show here on earth. Particularly the work we are doing in this shift. We grossly underestimate the importance of our current game, but they don't.

[tone3jaguar]

Are You eating.....? N0 Yes I'm Offering Help...


Well let me give you a hint, I s--t bigger than you can every mourning.

[Tango]

Then, I did ask... Bit graphic... OK... I'lll go...


Tango

[Christo888]

Jim Self is a teacher/healer/lecturer. Jim describes an observation that many humans are transforming themselves into crystaline light bodies without going through the death cycle. Many are now doing energetic work to help raise and balance things for stability sake and to enable others to follow their pioneering lead.

Most of the craft in orbit are watching the show here on earth. Particularly the work we are doing in this shift. We grossly underestimate the importance of our current game, but they don't.

Ok, never heard of him but I will have a look see.

The Crystaline light body by all means but, where are they going? Is it something like... abandon ship Earth is gonna blow and get off before she does or is it like ok figured it out I can leave now?

[Myplanet2]

Ok, never heard of him but I will have a look see.

The Crystaline light body by all means but, where are they going? Is it something like... abandon ship Earth is gonna blow and get off before she does or is it like ok figured it out I can leave now?

Some are going home. others are sticking around to help the transition. Jim gets a lot of info from Archangel Metatron. I started a thread in Books, Videos etc sub forum on some of his work, including what this shift is really about and how it's going. 3D, 4D and 5D descriptions and things like that, with links.

What is sort of startling about the number of ascensions is that Metatron said it was hoped that one would be able to do it, to blaze a trail for others. And now the number is up over 7000 and it's speeding up.

My own work has been blowing my mind. Finally!!!!! The stage is set for things to get really interesting in the near future, and that has nothing to do with the controller agenda, and their minion shenanigans.

I'll try to link to that other thread: https://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16441

[Reader]

Would you people please get over yourselves

I've never heard so many semi-literate, apparently, un-employed people getting into cat fights about nothing, in my entire life.

I came to this site to learn and share things, but it's no longer happening

If you guys had a real job, you'd have less time to spend being self-delusional

[Northern Boy]

It would be nice to have a real job Reader where would you like me to go look ? some times if you have nothing of value to add to the conversation it might be better to add nothing . Are you saying because some of us are unemployed we are not on the same level as you? Guess money does that to a person.

[Christo888]

Some are going home. others are sticking around to help the transition. Jim gets a lot of info from Archangel Metatron. I started a thread in Books, Videos etc sub forum on some of his work, including what this shift is really about and how it's going. 3D, 4D and 5D descriptions and things like that, with links.

What is sort of startling about the number of ascensions is that Metatron said it was hoped that one would be able to do it, to blaze a trail for others. And now the number is up over 7000 and it's speeding up.

My own work has been blowing my mind. Finally!!!!! The stage is set for things to get really interesting in the near future, and that has nothing to do with the controller agenda, and their minion shenanigans.

I'll try to link to that other thread: https://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16441

Ahhh... OK. Well the whole metatron thing never sat well with me but hey that is also a way to somehwere. It's kinda like the whole Golden Mean thing... I don't see it!

I see a whole bunch of ships in the air above with fishing lines and bobbers hangin here at eye level... and a note on the hooks that say "pick me... pick me."

But I have a vivid imagination like a kid... And I do often yank that fishing pole right out of their hands from time to time. My grandfather often took us out fishing in the boat and one day my cousin fell asleep with the rod in his hand so my grandfather took a bucket and dropped it down his line into the water... my cousin fought that thing for the longest time... I think it was the largest bucket fish on record!:lol3:

Anyway... this sucks I'm missing out on all the cool stuff.
Does Jim Self have a list of names of people who were here and now are not here?

[Reader]

Northern Boy, there is always a job is you want it........

My Beef is it seems so many people want to blame "something" or "somebody" for their plight, without really doing something about it. Instead, they go all metaphysical on you..............? Which is bull**** Which is only real in their own minds.

As the illegals leave, people in the USA will begin to do many jobs they use to do, and they will appreicate them. Then, we will be starting to live in the real world as it is evolving too>

[BROOK]

see a whole bunch of ships in the air above with fishing lines and bobbers hangin here at eye level... and a note on the hooks that say "pick me... pick me."

I think it's..."beam me up...beam me up" :lmfao:

[BROOK]

Northern Boy, there is always a job is you want it........

My Beef is it seems so many people want to blame "something" or "somebody" for their plight, without really doing something about it. Instead, they go all metaphysical on you..............? Which is bull**** Which is only real in their own minds.

As the illegals leave, people in the USA will begin to do many jobs they use to do, and they will appreicate them. Then, we will be starting to live in the real world as it is evolving too>

OMG ...are you serious?....first of all..Northern Boy is from Canada..which has nothing to do with "illegals" leaving the USA....and when was the last time you read a paper....My friend...unemployment is rampant.....and only getting worse!

Metaphysical?......we're talking about the changes and "something brewing"....it's about space ships...et's....have you actually read anything on this thread?
Northern Boy has not said anything "metaphysical" yet.

[tone3jaguar]

Northern Boy, there is always a job is you want it........

My Beef is it seems so many people want to blame "something" or "somebody" for their plight, without really doing something about it. Instead, they go all metaphysical on you..............? Which is bull**** Which is only real in their own minds.

As the illegals leave, people in the USA will begin to do many jobs they use to do, and they will appreicate them. Then, we will be starting to live in the real world as it is evolving too>


You have no clue what you are talking about and you can kiss my ass.

[Reader]

Brook, with "all due respect" their are illegals and jobs to be had in CANADA
Sorry if I'm being a grown up neighbor

I realize we are talking about space ships , I want them to be here too, but the fact that people are saying they know more about them than other people is complete "Snake Oil
LOOK, we know things are happening, and they are happening fast!, That is why we are here at Avalon,etc........not to make a buck...

As Alan Iverson & his Momma has said many times, "Keep it Real"

[BROOK]

Brook, with "all due respect" their are illegals and jobs to be had in CANADA
Sorry if I'm being a grown up neighbor

I realize we are talking about space ships , I want them to be here too, but the fact that people are saying they know more about them than other people is complete "Snake Oil
LOOK, we know things are happening, and they are happening fast!, That is why we are here at Avalon,etc........not to make a buck...

As Alan Iverson & his Momma has said many times, "Keep it Real"

So now we are children? Look the unemployment rate is at 9.6% in the US..and 8.7% in Canada..that is pretty significant...to sit there and say "get a real job"....is a slap in the face. I work for a corporation where they are laying off people monthly...Yesterday they let a guy go that has been here for 15 years...they are cutting jobs..and have been doing so for the last year.

[tone3jaguar]

Brook, with "all due respect" their are illegals and jobs to be had in CANADA
Sorry if I'm being a grown up neighbor

I realize we are talking about space ships , I want them to be here too, but the fact that people are saying they know more about them than other people is complete "Snake Oil
LOOK, we know things are happening, and they are happening fast!, That is why we are here at Avalon,etc........not to make a buck...

As Alan Iverson & his Momma has said many times, "Keep it Real"


Ah, so if it is outside of your personal perception and consciousness then it is not real and we should not discuss it. OK, thank you for setting us all strait. I will check with you first from now on before I post some new and interesting information. ROLLS EYES

[Northern Boy]

Reader you are critical of those with out a job are we less of an individual because we don`t have one ? Do you feel like you have some higher moral ground to stand on because you may have one ? Have you bothered to read any of the posts from those you are being critical of or are you just going with your gut feeling here ? It just puzzles me . Yes if i wanted a job i could get it and go back to being a slave just like you . You say you are here to learn might i suggest two things for you to work on humility being one and research some ones position before you try and drag them thru the mud you may learn something of value before you make that mistake again . You are entitled to your position and opinion . Enjoy your stay here ........ Thank you Brook and T3J

[BROOK]

After being on this forum for a year now..and finally saying what I said on this thread...having it called "metephysical" is disturbing....there is nothing Metephysical about the needle mark and bruise on my arm a month ago...or the the UFO in the Salt Lake Desert and missing time I had..and the being in my room as a child...telling me to not be afraid, and go back to bed, as I cowered out of my bed and moved away from the being....nothing at all. It was all very Physical...I many times wish is was a delusion :nono:

[333mark333]

Reader - Are you sure this is the place for you to be ? there are many other good sites on the net that may cater to your perception of your own reality! if you don't resonate here keep on moving and flow to where you need to be.

All the best :)

[tone3jaguar]

After being on this forum for a year now..and finally saying what I said on this thread...having it called "metephysical" is disturbing....there is nothing Metephysical about the needle mark and bruise on my arm a month ago...or the the UFO in the Salt Lake Desert and missing time I had..and the being in my room as a child...telling me to not be afraid, and go back to bed, as I cowered out of my bed and moved away from the being....nothing at all. It was all very Physical...I many times wish is was a delusion :nono:

You should consider looking into the testimonies that the Disclosure Project has about how the abductions take place. They have talked to some of the scientists who actually engineered the implants. The black ops world has multi dimensional capabilities that can very easily be just like a real invasive abduction. Your experiences and memories are real, however make sure to question who intentions was behind it. They have actually been doing this to world leaders in order to get other countries to unify in a military world government. The innocent by standers like you are targeted so that there will be those random people in the public who convey what has happened to them. This is the agenda of Majestic should you accept it as a possibility.

[Lionhawk]

Wow! Tone3jaguar starts a thread and people are having problems keeping their meds in balance. Now if the emotional body of those would just unplug, we might learn something that is of greater value. In which this thread and the intent was to keep people informed of the possibilities that are manifesting in the now. Let's face a reality here. I want to leave this Planet. Just look at what has happened in this thread and it becomes very obvious as to why I want to leave it. I'm very tired of swimming in a polluted river with a bunch of floating debris that I find myself exerting extra effort just to navigate around. I didn't say that I agreed with the reported results but I do support the effort of what is trying to be conveyed by Tone3 jaguar. It does exists in that field of potential. So I can accept the possibilities as being probable. There are no limitations. We limit ourselves, PERIOD. But to try to limit everyone's thinking is just a disgrace with the innuendos and ridicules. So if I may say it, Grow up will ya? Every path is different and it isn't your job to say what works for you is to work for everyone else. Hey, if what works for you is working then God Bless you. But if you are coming here to create chaos, because there is something lacking in your paradigm, then you will only end up showing what is lacking within you. Look in the mirror, then get real with yourself because you are the one who is polarizing yourself for more baggage. I got tied of carrying that baggage. It takes to much effort to lug around.

If you don't like what is presented here, then just move on. It doesn't need to get personal. Many here are striving to move forward and we find ourselves surrounded by parasitic behaviors that have only one purpose in mind. To suck the life force out of you. So if you are a parasite just know you are revealing to everyone what you are with lame threats and boring comments. What you can't stand is that someone may have succeeded in the developments of the spirit and are not just talking the talk but walking it. That's in the first hand and you can't touch that. Why do you think that there have been secret societies in the past where a lot of this stuff was kept secret. Because many can't handle the truth. It's your paradigm, and if you want it to be limited so you are comfortable and secure then that is of your choosing. But it is not for you to dishonor someone else's paradigm because of your limitations in yours.

And we wonder why we are at BASE 0. Isn't it obvious as to why? I respect the right to free speech as with many out there. But not the abuse of it and to justify it because someone feels entitled emotionally is an abuse of that gift. It damn sure isn't no blessing. It is one thing to have the right to free speech but another to abuse that right by infliction of negativity onto others. Same with free agency. All the problems we are facing in this sector is because of the abuse and misuse of that gift. You choose!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...................

Namaste'

[Reader]

Mark, you may have a point,
this probably isn't the thread for me......

As an adult and parent of 53 years, it's hard to listen&read some of this "stuff"

However, I will try to persevere.........and learn what I might

Cheers!

[tone3jaguar]

I think what we are really dealing with here is that a large quantity of the population are in the process of their own shamanic death. The shamanic death is when an old paradigm suddenly passes away.

Right now people are in the various stages of what one goes through after a death. The results of the death of an old ego are the same on the consciousness of an individual as the death of a person that was close to them.

Those stages would be denial, then anger, then confusion, then acceptance of the new paradigm. Information is not what is causing this, the false core beliefs people have held for so long are being automatically removed due to the increases in the frequencies of consciousness.

Once those things are stripped away the person is left sitting there viewing a unfamiliar version of themselves. They may not like what they see, therefore they project what they see that they do not like in themselves onto others.

This would be the denial. Then they get though with that and realize that denial is not working like it used to so they convert their fear into anger and once again externalize it.

Once this does not work then they become confused because their philosophy is suddenly different then it used to be and acclimation to the new paradigm is nessesary.

After confusion aspect of mourning the death of the old ego people begin to accept the new version of their personal reality they now find themselves in. Some people may get stuck at one of these stages.

Externalization of these stages of mourning of the death of the old paradigm are what will cause people roadblocks in the acclimation process. My advice to people going through this would be to stop blaming others for the way that you feel about things and start looking at yourself so that you can move on.

[BROOK]

You should consider looking into the testimonies that the Disclosure Project has about how the abductions take place. They have talked to some of the scientists who actually engineered the implants. The black ops world has multi dimensional capabilities that can very easily be just like a real invasive abduction. Your experiences and memories are real, however make sure to question who intentions was behind it. They have actually been doing this to world leaders in order to get other countries to unify in a military world government. The innocent by standers like you are targeted so that there will be those random people in the public who convey what has happened to them. This is the agenda of Majestic should you accept it as a possibility.

T3J... I'm aware of all the possibilities....but I don't really talk about it..and this is the first time I've done so...only because Lionhawk sparked a memory. And because of the nature of the thread except for the "other stuff"...the basis of the thread..."something brewing"...I decided to say what I said...there are very few that know this ...and I have only just mentioned it because of the recent yet again visit....it is very real...and that is about it.
Am I afraid?..not really...mad mostly...from past life experience...this is not the first life I've been visited...and probably will not be the last...However...this time I have some helpers in the background...they slap me in the face from time to time so I can see better.

And again...there is something big on the horizon....this is important...Knowing the truth is of utmost importance....and following your path....your true purpose to be here at this time and place.

[Barcarolle]

Lets face it we are all here for a reason, we have been manipulated and controlled for eons and its now time for us to grow outside the DNA constraints given to us and do the unexpected, break free from the self imposed shackles(remembing who we really are)

We need to remove ego, detach emotional baggage, be completely open minded and aware, and be ready to follow the universal lead.

Was perfectly said in this thread that we cannot leave with baggage, baggage acts as an anchor and a psychic magnet that will forever hold you back. I dont want to do this for another few thousand years, im tired and i also want to go home.

Having a 3D mind will not allow us to recall all we have learned, we will incarnate again with no memory and continue making the same mistakes over and over, by allowing, learning and with focused intent we can outwit the puppet masters and magic makers by evolving ourselves.

Everyone here is on their own journey, we have millions of realities ahead and we right now can choose our own path .... Enjoy the journey, the times ahead are unprecedented and exciting. Allow everyone to be positive, appreciate everyone's views as we all have something to offer, remove the negative energy it does not resonate in here and let your light shine so we all can feel your love so we all can grow together as one.

Lionhawk you have added significant power to this site and my hat goes off to you, some may feel threatened. This place was heading in a backward direction then your arrival rejuvenated some of us in sheer excitement ...... Some others here provide excellent service but unable to allow others to share the center stage, this is not a competition, no medals ceremonys our own reward is going home.

Enjoy all the information we are getting, this stuff will not be available for us much longer...... Study it, love it, decern it, decipher it and above all enjoy it.

Namaste

[333mark333]

Mark, you may have a point,
this probably isn't the thread for me......

As an adult and parent of 53 years, it's hard to listen&read some of this "stuff"

However, I will try to persevere.........and learn what I might

Cheers!

I agree, its quite mind blowing really and it challenges your core belief of who and what you perceive yourself to be! i have been listening to this stuff for so long now that it has changed my perception of who and what i am! i now realize that i am an observer! infinite consciousness having a particle reality experience! imo its all about the neural networks and the activation of thought-forms from the field of consciousness, that brings the Truth!

Im sure you'll find what you need regardless

best wishes for your evolution

:)

[Lionhawk]

All I can say is that it isn't about me. I am only trying to share the lessons I have learned on my path. Just know I have been a hard head in my past and to the point where everything came with great sacrifices. In other words I have done it the hard way. Savy? I don't want anyone here to believe me. Absolutely NOT! You have within your hands your very life. It is a responsibility and you will be accountable for it. Check your baggage and you will see what I am speaking of. I didn't come here to prove anything. I also didn't come here to be attacked on any level. But I find that is also happening and I haven't been here a week yet. So there must be something to the energies I am anchoring here is all I can figure. The dark don't like it and ask me if I care. So with that I say we move on and start getting ourselves prepared for what is ahead on our separate paths. There is a sense of great urgency in the air right now and the Field of Potential is about to manifest something. A birth is about to take place and I find that exciting!

Again thank-you for the kind words but forgive me if my head doesn't swell up. Again it isn't about me.

Namaste'

[Sideshow Shaman]

I usually just read, but wanted to say hello & welcome to Lionhawk. Thanks for starting the thread to Tone3Jaguar. And that I liked the topic of latest forecast from people's own experience/viewpoint/guidance. This seems to be my only focus of late... the immediate future.

Squabbles always happen, they do not bother me so much anymore. They happen less here than elsewhere on the 'net. Perhaps the energy of the original topic has run it's course anyway.

Thanks again for the info. The only way to know something is to experience it. So i appreciate it when other experiencers share. Whatever is coming I want it to be big.

[tone3jaguar]

One thing is for sure is that there are multiple Jaguar glyph people participating in this thread. Looks like Slide Show is a tone 10 jaguar. Lets get a role call of all of the Jaguar's in here.

[orthodoxymoron]

I didn't say that I agreed with the reported results but I do support the effort of what is trying to be conveyed by Tone3 jaguar. It does exists in that field of potential. So I can accept the possibilities as being probable. There are no limitations. We limit ourselves, PERIOD. But to try to limit everyone's thinking is just a disgrace with the innuendos and ridicules. So if I may say it, Grow up will ya? Every path is different and it isn't your job to say what works for you is to work for everyone else. Hey, if what works for you is working then God Bless you. But if you are coming here to create chaos, because there is something lacking in your paradigm, then you will only end up showing what is lacking within you. Look in the mirror, then get real with yourself because you are the one who is polarizing yourself for more baggage. I got tied of carrying that baggage. It takes to much effort to lug around.

If you don't like what is presented here, then just move on. It doesn't need to get personal. Many here are striving to move forward and we find ourselves surrounded by parasitic behaviors that have only one purpose in mind. To suck the life force out of you. So if you are a parasite just know you are revealing to everyone what you are with lame threats and boring comments. What you can't stand is that someone may have succeeded in the developments of the spirit and are not just talking the talk but walking it. That's in the first hand and you can't touch that. Why do you think that there have been secret societies in the past where a lot of this stuff was kept secret. Because many can't handle the truth. It's your paradigm, and if you want it to be limited so you are comfortable and secure then that is of your choosing. But it is not for you to dishonor someone else's paradigm because of your limitations in yours.

And we wonder why we are at BASE 0. Isn't it obvious as to why? I respect the right to free speech as with many out there. But not the abuse of it and to justify it because someone feels entitled emotionally is an abuse of that gift. It damn sure isn't no blessing. It is one thing to have the right to free speech but another to abuse that right by infliction of negativity onto others. Same with free agency. All the problems we are facing in this sector is because of the abuse and misuse of that gift. You choose!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...................

Namaste'

It's a problem...isn't it? If the secrets of the universe are revealed to the general public...we go nuts. If the secrets of the universe are concealed within secret societies...they become incredibly corrupt. I vote for revealing the secrets of the universe to the general public. Yes...we will go nuts...but eventually we will get over it and grow up. Then everyone will be an elite. Hopefully we will survive...and become at least a 1 civilization...instead of being a -1. Not making disagreements personal is an excellent place to begin. Just stick to the facts.

[Myplanet2]

Ahhh... OK. Well the whole metatron thing never sat well with me but hey that is also a way to somehwere. It's kinda like the whole Golden Mean thing... I don't see it!

I see a whole bunch of ships in the air above with fishing lines and bobbers hangin here at eye level... and a note on the hooks that say "pick me... pick me."

But I have a vivid imagination like a kid... And I do often yank that fishing pole right out of their hands from time to time. My grandfather often took us out fishing in the boat and one day my cousin fell asleep with the rod in his hand so my grandfather took a bucket and dropped it down his line into the water... my cousin fought that thing for the longest time... I think it was the largest bucket fish on record!:lol3:

Anyway... this sucks I'm missing out on all the cool stuff.
Does Jim Self have a list of names of people who were here and now are not here?

I've only had a few interactions with Metatron, and they were only a few words here and there, so I don't really get a sense of what he's about. So I don't really have an opinion. I have to say when I first heard the name, I though someone was having me on. It sounded like a transformer, or something. But I've been so wrong so often when I prejudged in the past, or went on assumptions, that I really almost never do that anymore. I did enjoy Metatron's "press release" (joke) on the 09-09-09 event, and my experiences since have resonated with what he said to expect.

Jim Self seems to have a closer relationship, as he refers to Metatron quite often, but Jim's work is not about Metatron, or about these remarkable beings who've already ascended. It's about giving some tools we can actually use to strengthen our various energy fields, and cleaning them and the various bodies, to ease our transition. Just reading this thread shows how much stronger the need to do that has become in just the last couple of weeks. No coincidence, as I see it.

Jim didn't say anything about the identities of the ascended. It was remarked a couple of times in passing, while discussing other matters, almost anechdotally.

Most of what resonates the most strongly with me now, could never be proven, so I don't go off in search for any, except perhaps inside of me. If I can find what I'm hearing about inside myself, and feel good when I look it over, then that's proof enough for now, and it's been working really well.

I really like Jim Self. He's obviously a very kind and gentle soul, who cares very much that we have an easy time of it.

I can't call what I'm doing easy, but it's the most rewarding thing I've ever done.

[BROOK]

Jim didn't say anything about the identities of the ascended.


What does he say about the ones that are not ascended? What is to become of them?

[Lionhawk]

Thank-you Sideshow Shaman!

I just figure it is within's everyone's power to know that they have the right to know the truth. Same as the right to defend ones' self. You have the right to be your own sovereign being. You have been given the Gift of Free Agency. What more do you need to realize that all these things are yours to exercise on any level you see fit? Everything else is a management issue. Internal or external. The basics stay the same incarnation after incarnation, but the management issues are always what seems to get changed. It's just an issue of how you manage what you are and in what direction you are going on your journey. The journey could be to anywhere. Enough said.

Namaste'

[14 Chakras]

It's a problem...isn't it? If the secrets of the universe are revealed to the general public...we go nuts. If the secrets of the universe are concealed within secret societies...they become incredibly corrupt. I vote for revealing the secrets of the universe to the general public. Yes...we will go nuts...but eventually we will get over it and grow up. Then everyone will be an elite. Hopefully we will survive...and become at least a 1 civilization...instead of being a -1. Not making disagreements personal is an excellent place to begin. Just stick to the facts.

An important thing to note, do we really think the bad guys understand the 'secrets of creation'? Personally, I think they are very ignorant to the secrets of creation or they would align themselves very quickly with the light because it really is in the own Self interest. The more karma they create, the more they run from their divine plan, the worse off things are going to get for them.

The more they align with the higher will, the will of the infinite, the more that the true mysteries of creation will be revealed to them, the more they will grow in true power, true wisdom when they are in alignment. Truthfully, it is only ignorance that drives the dark forces, if only they would turn around and pass their test "all would be given unto them".

I suggest the secrets of the universe will not be revealed by the 'secret' societies, because they don't know them at this point! True, the bad guys know the secrets of manipulation, but they don't know truth, or they'd align themselves with it, because it's to their best interest to do so from an enlightened standpoint!

The secrets will be uncovered, discovered, and revealed by those that are in alignment with the higher Will, which is the will that is 'win win' for all life.

Let's see if we can all "win" here on this forum too! It's all about coming up higher for each one of us after all, together we are more... nice to have the varying viewpoints, that's what drives things forward.

[14 Chakras]

Sharing my understanding on the ascension bit:

Ascending out of this world is not something that we're looking to do at this important time.

The goal is to ascend in consciousness while remaining here so that we can help with the collective ascension :). To be in the world but not of it. To be in the game, but see through it.

Any talk that we are supposed to 'disappear' I would suggest is dangerous talk... However, I understand that in the example with Jim Self he may be talking about people that have passed from the body (died), then ascended, this is a good thing, they graduate from the schoolroom and don't have to come back here under amnesia again...

For us here though, we're here for a big party!!! :partytime2:

Raising up and healing of this planet and all of it's people is what we came here to do, let's enjoy our jobs and celebrate our planet and the goodness that abounds here when we know where to look :).

[Myplanet2]

What does he say about the ones that are not ascended? What is to become of them?

The majority of the rest of us are working on it, and will get there with varying degrees of success, and a minority of us for whom this is just too hard, and for whom it's too little-too late at this point, will go through some sort of death cycle, and not be on earth when she speeds up and phases into 4D, on the way to 5D.

they'll be fine. No one is left behind this time, like what happened in the Atlantis attempt. Enough of us are going through with it to make all the difference that's needed.

exactly when and how this will finally play out, No one knows. There is no exact script for this, because it's never happened this way before. We could conceivably become something never before seen in existence. A planet of form AND density has never before ascended with a conscious population of creator beings on board. The 9th Dimensional Pleiadian Collective calls it the reality show of the universe. Except that OUR solutions to the problems of polarity that we face, will be written into the Akashic records for all to draw on, and that's happening in real time, so some of what we've accomplished is already available for use to other conscious species elsewhere, and the really big deal right now is apparently the potentials being created by the 7000 plus and growing number of us who've already made it and blazed the trail for others to follow.

Much of this can only be experienced through our higher aspects for now, so the better in balance and harmony we are, the more of this we will be able to experience and use to speed our progress.

I'm comfortable with the veracity of the above info.

[Malletzky]

Sharing our truth and our wisdom, revealing our experiences and learning from another is the main reason why so many of us are here on this forum. In this occasion, I want to thank you ALL for sharing your truth and wisdom. It has without any doubt raised my frequency in the last 12 months, I learned so much from you...

You know, we all hold a part of the ultimate truth in our hearts, no matter what ultimate may mean. I guess, we'll have to learn and learn again, until the timepoint of merging with our creator...There're so many truths and wisdoms to be learnt, not only here on the earth as a 3D beings, but also in the higher planes of existence. The only problem that we face now is, we're (still) unable to merge our truths together and see the whole picture of the creation.

Nevertheless, many of us feel the comming changes. This thread popped up almost timely with the changes happening right now in my life. The things speeded up enormously, it's almost unbelievable...It's like I'm experiencing 41 years of my existance on the earth in just one month now...

I'm definately having some strange time now. I feel that I'm literally forced to let go of so many boundaries, the heaviest one is the feeling that I have to quit working...which I can't imagine I can afford to...and I can't see the purpose of that now...but I trust the guidance of my heart...No matter what, I know I have to stay calm and centered.

Just to point to few things here...it is not only about my feelings...for example of quit working...something is brewing in the company where I'm employed, and I may be the first one to sense the changings there. The situations that are occuring right now are just confirming my feelings about the whole situation.

Or should I also mention that I've obviously been attacked by some very negative forces in the last four weeks? I can feel their downgoing and dark energies, and they do not stop on me...it all culminated last friday, when my wife was almost forced to burn our house...yes, I said she was forced, the circumstances of that small fire, well it wasn't only coincidence...

So yes, some of us really "see" and feel he comming changes more or less.

And one more thing...I am convinced that there are some beings around to assist us in our further growth. I don't know if they need any spaceships, maybe the do...but I was clearly shown a fake landing of UFO's in one of my recent dreams. In my dream, we, the humanity, gathered to wellcome the "extraterrestrials" (yes, we knew the will come, strangely). Up in the sky, it really looked like the Ships were not man made. But...the first UFO that "landed" had the US flag drawn on it...So I would suggest we all beware...

with :wub2:
malletzky

[Swanny]

Anyone got a date that we have to be gone by???

[14 Chakras]

"Anyone got a date that we have to be gone by???"

You mean if you wanna fail the test?

Quote:

Those who seek to save their lives (run away) will LOSE them.

Those who seek to lose their lives (egos) for my sake (the Christ consciousness), will save them.

--

Planet earth will not only be saved by the light bearers here, it will be raised up into an Age of wonder unsurpassed in cosmic history!

Children of today will live past 1000 years!!!

Streets within your lifetime (assuming you don't cut and run) will be PAVED WITH GOLD.

We're in for a party. Stick around :) :trumpet:

[Anchor]

I'm very tired of swimming in a polluted river with a bunch of floating debris that I find myself exerting extra effort just to navigate around.

Strength to you!

Reminder: You chose this :) Your probably regretting it sometimes, but it is quite helpful to remember that you chose, and you are a very qualified and very strong swimmer.

I for one am glad you did choose. We need all the help we can get down here.

There is a saying that I heard around these parts. The truth will set you free but first it will p!ss you off. What I see is that people on here - looking for answers are finding those answers of the p!ss-off variety.

A..

[Christo888]

I am here! ... And I can stand on the surface and see the whole sky. I only remember neon blue lights and mountainous cliffs, ... other than that I am here now!

This is a cool place, I can see why others may want to try to steal it! I want to meet my brothers and sisters and cousins and other close ones from all over the Universe.

Right now it is what it is....

YouTube - Ultra Flirt - Heaven is a Place on Earth

But if you have ill will intentions then you do not have my permission to be here and you are not allowed to interfere with anyone's freewill.

How do we want to make our World????

Way to cool of a planet with lots of beautiful people whether they are awake or not!

Absolutely beautiful... where else in the Universe would you go???


YouTube - Beautiful Earth


The irony!!! 3rd dimension... the most sought after dimension in all of creation! Go figure!

[Noela]

feardia - I was interested that your brought up the name of
George Kavassilas, along with others who hold a different view
on ships arriving, E.t.'s and technology etc.

I was going to suggest that folks visit G.K.'S website (can't
remember the format, but easy to find with his name) and
listen to his talks. So glad you brought it up.

I have questions over some of G.K.'s information (as with most)
but I do feel after listening to him my attitude is "Don't get on
the ships!"

[BROOK]

I did a post on George K about two months ago..this is my perception of his talk after listening to it twice

I watched one of the many videos of a whistleblower here on Avalon...and it started out with a man describing that he knew of our ultimate origin ....the creation of US..then he said..this is his perception

He carried on to describe many levels of dimension ....then he said..."and on this level is where the ego is created..." At that point I realized that the series of videos is exactly what he said...it was his Perception ...and I watched further..and I saw his ego describing heaven and hell....the ET phenomena ..through great research he explained all the past Gods and the reason for the pyramids...their basis of origin and purpose.

It was fascinating ...and because I have never done any of this research myself...it seemed very plausible....but was it the "TRUTH"

How much of that information came from "Knowing"..and how much came from the ego based brain..with the research to cloud the perception?

Herein lies the delima :

First..where is the proof?...is it based on conjecture? From past research and theory? could the truth be clouded by such theory and research?

I believe he did tap into a "knowing"...he seemed very convinced of that fact..and seemed very genuine...but how much of the information was filtered through the brain..and processed by the EGO....DELIMA...what is the truth? Is this ultimate truth? Is it "his" truth..filtered by ego?

This is where "knowing" comes in handy...because it is not filtered by ego..it simply is the Truth.

The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality.

[Lionhawk]

I concur Anchor! I did choose. It was no accident. As with the title of the thread, what I am discovering is that something is beginning to brew on this forum site as well. Just to think I have only been here a few days only to discover that this forum site is about to go through a major transition for the better. I have uncovered something. I knew the first day I came here that it was already here. Agents. Lurking, surfing, intervening, and manipulating. At first I just brushed it off as I was getting acquainted with the site. But certain events that have transpired over this passed weekend, have opened my eyes as to the degree of what is happening here.

It starts here. This isn't about paranoia. There is proof and I am only one of several who have had several experiences concerning this issue. The reason as to their presence is very clear to those who 'KNOW." What this forum is all about. It's simple. They don't want anyone to know. That is their number one priority is for us to be unenlightened, underpowered, and just shunted from our true essence. So what this site represents is something they will not want us to discover. Ourselves.

I have bounced around and there is a vast amount of valuable information to absorb. But don't get glued to it as it will also serve their purposes. Don't allow the information to become like fly paper. In other words, read it, ponder it, and let it go. It isn't about using discernment. It is about using extreme discernment.

There is a fire that is going within this site and there will be a gathering of energy to purge these agents. I can already see them screaming. I can also see them running. Running away from the flames. I also suspect that now since I have addressed this, the heat will be turned up. Let's turn it up.

Reminds me of the Matrix movie except it is going to happen right here. The beauty of that is I know there are many a Neo already 'anchored' here. They don't want us to realize that either. They want us to stay separate from each other and they create much dissent and run many tactics of controlled confusion. Promoting competition to keep us divided. It's time to anchor ONENESS. Also kick this duality paradigm down the road. Let the first battle start here. We need to clean this mess up and restore what the Creators of this site had intended.

So for those who read this, stand back away from it so you can see it with both of your eyes. Make a choice. Others have already. They are coming out of the woodwork and have been under the radar just waiting for the right moment to set this back upright. Consider it your right to make a positive difference here. After all look at all the time you have spent here. If you value that then you can empower yourself to make that positive difference.

Remember when Neo is in the train station and decides to quit running and he turns around to face the Agent?

Namaste'

[BROOK]

Nailed it again :thumb_yello:
The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality.

[Swanny]

We need to clean this mess up and restore what the Creators of this site had intended.


Mess??? Some of us like the thing you call a mess :sneaky2:
You can't just walk into a forum and decide that it's wrong and not what you want it to be :thumbdown:

[Fredkc]

http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/post3/FriendlyChatters2.jpg

[BROOK]

Mess??? Some of us like the thing you call a mess :sneaky2:
You can't just walk into a forum and decide that it's wrong and not what you want it to be :thumbdown:

I have been here for a year now..and with the good comes the bad...It's all in what you allow yoursef to see.

I personally have run into blatant racism, follow me I'm the leader..and self proclaimed "indigos" that are in delusion....no indigo that I would perceive would say the things that they do..and have such a narrow vision.

I have also seen bright minds leave for these vary reasons...there was a young man here..brilliant..and he left due to racist mentality shown on the forum. He was more then uncomfortable with it.

So you see Swanny...there are those who love the group...the core group..and then there are those here who would disrupt it..and have been doing a very good job at it...keeping us from the truth..diverting the direction...I have seen it too..but choose not to buy into it..and that is what I believe Lionhawk is conveying here.
My opinon only for what small weight it's worth ...love you guys :wub2:

[Myplanet2]

LionHawk.(and everyone interested) Your recent post has prompted me to make a post I've been putting off for several weeks now, but since you've opened the can, I may as well pull some worms out of it and play with them a bit.

I'm seeing the bifurcation you've pointed to, but see it from a different angle (naturally :lol3:)

I'm not saying you are, but I can't look at it as a game within a polarity. That is nearly impossible for me to use that point of view anymore. I still understand it, but don't function that way.

I've seen Many (more than 100) examples of people mentioning noticing just this thing. The splitting of humanity along the lines of "time to move on" and "we have a fight on our hands", with even more oblivious to most of what's happening (character acters - extras). I don't see many character actors or extras here on Avalon, except for the occasional "you people are all delusional, get a life..." types.

The game we are in the midst of, is playing on all levels simultaneously. The outcome will be determined by which level of play we focus our attention on. If we're here, now, doing what we are doing, we're all "in the game", and are playing on some level. On one end of the spectrum we have as the prize, going home to plug our brilliant facet of all that is, with it's broad range of experiences enjoyed from that specific perspective, unique to that facet, back into all that is, so that it may complete it's self exploration. On the other end of the spectrum, the prize might be finally defeating the forces of darkness, or further down, their minions, or further down, the patsies of their minions, or all the way down to as tiny as the lesson learned by burning ourselves with the magnifying glass we were tormenting an ant with. Or anything in between.

The split I'm seeing, is about whether to stand up and engage, or whether to walk away from polarity and choose non judgement, unconditional love, and unity.

for many, the decision is made. Some plan how to rule in their stead (thereby inviting the law of attraction to transform them into the "next bad thing"). Some see the solution to polarity as being the recognition that it's a rigged game, and you can never win a game like that unless it's by leaving it. choosing a solution from outside the games fixed parameters. And many sit on a fence or waffle from side to side. (or from side to no-side)

I'm going to attempt to describe my perspective/model of what this playing field is made up of. the difficulty is in it's being spread across so many levels, only 2 of which have the structure of "form" and only 1 of which has such palpable density and linear time.

Before all the duality was set in density, we chose to experience it in as great a contrast as possible, which necessarily entailed shutting off much of ourselves. We agreed to do that. We blocked knowledge of ourselves, and our relationship to the creator, so we could fully experience this duality from the perspective of contrast. total immersion. We chose our experiences and lived them in total immersion. we've been the best of the best, the holiest of the holy, the worst of the bad, the most dastardly of the evil. We've all done it all. Every single one of us, without exception, has done it all.

Some chose blind alleys to go down, and have not found their way back. They explored locking away the divine spark, as irretrievably as possible, and succeeded. annunaki are such a splinter. But they came from the same place we came from, and will eventually return, just as we now are. No sparks are lost. ever. Some roles have simply become habitual. Defined as something you repeatedly do that you are no longer aware you are repeatedly doing.

Those acting out the dark so we may experience the fullness of the light in complete appreciation, have payed, and will continue to pay, a heavy Karmic price, because none are truly and natively evil. It's just a role some have become lost in.

Fast forward, and we are at the very ending of this game. All has been done. All have been experienced. We're ready to go home and share all our wonderful experiences with All that is.

But all but a few, by ratio, still don't know who and what they truly are. It's being turned back on now, with the pair of waves bath us. The one that brings what we do need to return to who we truly are, and the one that washes away all of who we are not, but have believed ourselves to be, out of habit.

Who and what we truly are, is the key to unravelling this whole thing. That was the point all along. Could we hide who and what we are, immerse ourselves in the most outrageously dense experiences and play, and find our way back home? rediscover ourselves and bring the whole experience home.

Well, we've done it. The experience part. We've completed the exploration, and there is nothing left to do here. It's time to go home and return to our wholeness in love and light and complete harmony.

But what about those so immersed in who they are not, that they are having a difficult time discovering who they are? They will have to heal. The 09-09-09 crystal activation was about 2 things. providing us the drive and opportunity to rediscover our multidimensional nature, and healing. These beings holding the contrasting dark, need to heal. Not be beaten. To beat them, just gives us more healing to do ourselves. The contest is over. It was never about winning or losing. It was about "what would this be like"? It was about how low can I sink and yet find my way back into the light?

We need to peel ourselves away from the structures of conflict, contrast, never again, always, you should, you shouldn't, if you this, then I that, I don't want what you offer, why don't you want what I offer, I'm good-you're bad, I'm bad-you're good, that's unfair, why do you have more than I do, I'd like to be more like...., you're too much like, that reminds me of something I didn't like, I'm hurt, I regret hurting you, you're too out of control, you're too in control, you cause my lack, etc. The list could be extended to billions or trillions of items. It's everything we can experience as a harmonious whole, split into contrasting pairs. It's polarity, duality. It's what we came to master, and master it we did. But we've forgotten its just some play. We've forgotten we're immortal players. We've forgotten we carry All that is within us from one unique perspective, which is "I".

So what is this split you are perceiving at Avalon? I'll tell you what I see and from where I view. Since we are creator beings, we have certain abilities we can and do use all the time. We just say it wasn't us, so as not to break the illusion that we're small and able to be affected from without. but we are actually huge, and capable of anything we'd care to create. The real split I see is on either side of self awareness/acknowledgement. Some of us are embracing the shift back to what we are, while others are afraid of losing what they have invested in what we are not. We pretend not to create our mutual reality, and instead say this is the way it is, or it's predestined, or God did it, or it's the devil, or those bad people are doing this to me, or whatever.

Since our reality is created by ourselves, and no one else, some of us are creating a future where all harmony is restored because we say it is so, and some create a future where the idea of completing the contest is necessary in order to "win".

What I say, is that the game of "win" can never be "won". The game of win can only be abandoned, and declared complete.

Some are totally immersed in the sniffing out of past secrets, and hidden agendas, and machiavellian plotting, and "what does it all mean???", and that sort of thing.

And others have recognized rightly or wrongly that it's an endless loop unless one just steps out of it, and are searching for all the clues as to how we do that, and how we return to our natural wholeness of harmony, love, balance and light. And how to bring our beloved brothers and sisters with us, no matter what role they have chosen to play. No longer a competition, but a loving embrace. Non judgement. It's ok to wake up from the nightmare. compassion at all the time spent in the desolation of believing we were all alone, and not a part of the loving beauty we came from.

I think you can see which side of the fence I've landed on. (the side of no sides :lol3:)

My advice to my Avalonian friends is find out it's ok and we don't need to struggle. The longer we hold struggle in place, the more struggle our future contains. It's so typical 3d to struggle against struggle. When you can just cease struggling. It takes two to fight. I saw fight club last night for the first time. the lead character's plight is a good metaphor for what the PTB would face if we stepped out of the conflict. Would they just fight with themselves? would they pretend they needed to chase us around in the hopes we would then embrace being chased around once again? Would the promote that we need to find our inner greedy *******? Probably all of that. And probably there would be some feints and jabs to get us to react to them. They'd kill a few (who were actually on another level of play volunteering to be killed. Yes that's how it is. Free choice is a given.) they'd lock some up, they'd vaccinate some, ruin some children, restrict, punish, complain, hype up some fear, distract. None of that matters. none of it. I've confirmed and reconfirmed that over a billion people are about to die. I don't see that in a negative light. Those people are choosing to exit with a flourish. They know the final act we are now in, is going to get rough. All of our garbage must be purged now, in order for us to ascend. We're ascending with the planet as a whole. That is something new in creation. That has NEVER happened before, and nobody know's exactly how it's going to play. there are only projections and probabilities, and the likelihood is that this is going to be grand.

Just think of what we can create here by embracing the love that we are, and non judgementally helping the rest to find their divine spark as well. We are attempting to bring Heaven to earth, so to speak. We are removing the polarity and linearity and density from the game, while reconstructing all that we are, as a gift to All that is.

This is so beautiful, what's going on right now. And it's so hard to see people talk about how to "overcome" the forces of darkness. Are we like the man who will continue to refuse to ask for directions, or look at a map? What will it take to realize we've gone down a dead end alley, and need to go to a reset point?

Disclosure? I say discernment. I interact with several beings of higher dimensions, and realms. They disclose to me all the time. Should I get in line in front of some gov't office begging to be let in on some secrets? yikes. That hurts to even look at the tragic comedy of that suggestion. Fight the illumined ones? why? Avoid gov't oppression? why, when I'm creating it through my blatant ignoring of the law of attraction? Demand change? I'm a creator. Who's permission do I need to change anything?

If there is a split going on, it's not exactly as it seems in 3D viewing. You could say there is a bifurcation of timelines. Some creating peace and harmony directly, which is what will manifest for them, and some creating the idea that through struggle, peace and harmony can be "won" back from those who would deny us.

My suggestion is that nobody can deny us without our asking them to on another level of play. Kind of like "hey dearest friend, when we incarnate this time, would you please show me what it's like to be denied, and could you please make it really extreme? I'd love to have that experience, and I know you love me enough to go through the pain of doing that for me."

I actually believe it's possible for there to be a timeline split, although that's a cheap tasting description of what's really occurring. but it's a familliar concept at Camelot, so I'll run with it. The two above described groups of humans, ascenders and strugglers, plus the 3rd group of simple somniacs filling in the spaces between to give the impression of more players, are drifting apart in what they are creating. The ascenders are getting impatient with the strugglers and somniacs. The strugglers are shreaking at the ascenders that they are being naive and deceived, and at the somniacs that they are about to be eaten or something equally silly. The somniacs are simply saying "huh? what are you talking about. everything is perfect. Pizza and beer for the game friday?" until the car wreck or bomb, or tsunami, or tornado, or mugger, or poisoned apple takes them out at which point them shoot to the finish line with their pizza and beer and cheer on the rest of us playing it out all the way.

That's about what I wanted to say on this. Hope it's of some use, if not, toss it.

T3J, if you are inclined and if it can be done in such an instance, I'd be interested in you doing a dowse on the number of our playmates who know they are not riding this coaster all the way and who hold exit tickets. I think it would be comforting for many to know that this is expected, allowed for, not at all dastardly, and will be very visible and perhaps a bit shocking, as they assign all sorts of nefarious daring-do to the news that so many have died. I get over a billion. And I for one thank them for their participation and interest, and look forward to seeing them at the finish line.

[BROOK]

I've confirmed and reconfirmed that over a billion people are about to die

Where have you confirmed this information? and of 6 billion..7000 + will ascend...what of the rest?

Is that where the possible time line split you speak of occurs?

[Myplanet2]

Where have you confirmed this information? and of 6 billion..7000 + will ascend...what of the rest?

Is that where the possible time line split you speak of occurs?

Over 7000 up until now. It'll be all of us eventually, but over 7000 have now ascended without going through a death cycle. That's what's unique about this figure. the actual number who have ascended via a death cycle would be enormous by now, but I haven't heard any figures. The shift occurs when a certain number of beings are able to reach and hold a certain frequency which matches the frequency of other factors in play at the same time.

The timelines don't split and it's either or. It's both, and then more. It's thought that the Other timeline will simply fade out of the other ones existence. Over time.

But time is now collapsing. The apparency is that it's speeding up. but that it's stretched out into past and future in either direction. past and future are both contracting in the direction of now. it's not known (by anyone) exactly how this will play out, because we are doing it.

But the likelihood is that those who embark on one timeline or another will simply fade from one anothers awareness. Like the ascenders and strugglers. they'll become less and less aware of each other, (after they are done looking oddly like each other) until they find themselves no longer even noticing each other or ending up in the same places. Eventually they'll have a hard time even remembering each other. The new timelines will come complete with new "pasts" which will have only vague impressions of what existed on the timeline we have selected for ourselves. This has already happened several times for many of us. Do any past occurences seem almost surreal now? Like did that even happen?

The billion plus came first from following the plans of the controllers with their eugenics programs. Then Clif High in some recent releases said strong indications of a billion to one and a quarter billion dead was growing in the language. Since I was aware that some goodly number of people on earth now were not likely to see this all the way through, I asked The 9TH dimensional Pleiadian Collective, who have given me tons of brilliant advice said that yes, that number range was in line with what they were seeing as a strong probability, although nothing is set anymore. anything is possible, but I look at how tenaciously many are holding on to the old time line, and I don't doubt that it would take a miracle to rewrite these probabilities.

I don't see it as a negative. If people want out, I'm not going to begrudge them the decision. I'm completely at peace with their decisions, even if it involves less interested members of my immediate families. To each their own. And something will be "arranged" for them, whether it's disease, war, famine, accidents, natural disaster, or whatever.

Then as the shift continues to unfold, those who are solidly in any divergent timelines, will simply end up in a different place on the other side of the shift. And to me, this is really the main concern. We have such an amazing opportunity to reach so high in so short a time, that it would be a shame if too many opted to take the long way home.

The different dimensions closest to us are not absolutes. There are 3rd, 4th, and 5th existing in a great many shades of gray. The highest reaches of the 3rd is almost identical to the lowest reaches of the 4th, except that a few of the denser and more polarized aspects of the 3rd are gone from play and time is not perceived the same way. And the top of the 4th has many aspects of the 5th available to it, except that form is still part of the structure and in the 5th it is not. At least not recognizably so.

What scares me a bit is the idea that too much work left to do on a personal level would mean arriving in the lower 4th on the other side of the shift. That would mean having the thoughts and issues we have now, but without time to spread out the law of attraction. You think it, and it manifests now. consider that!!! would you want what you think to manifest now? Just think, you're driving along and someone cuts you off, and you think, "what an a**hole". You get the idea. Manifesting now is much more desirable if you have your issues behind you and are in control of your thoughts and desires.

You've got to remember that all of this is best guess and highest probability stuff, because Nothing is set. No timeline is selected. No exact template for this shift/ascension is put in place. All options are open, including having all of this change completely, except for the fact that the 3D game is at it's end, and the universal wish is that it be put to rest for more harmonious and loving ways of carrying on with our various explorations. 12th dimensional archangels and ascended masters don't even know exactly how this will happen in the end. And they all say so. they talk only in probabilities and potentials.

[BROOK]

Thank you for your answer Myplanet2 ..it does sound a bit scary in part...the potentials...the what ifs :shocked:

[tone3jaguar]

T3J, if you are inclined and if it can be done in such an instance, I'd be interested in you doing a dowse on the number of our playmates who know they are not riding this coaster all the way and who hold exit tickets. I think it would be comforting for many to know that this is expected, allowed for, not at all dastardly, and will be very visible and perhaps a bit shocking, as they assign all sorts of nefarious daring-do to the news that so many have died. I get over a billion. And I for one thank them for their participation and interest, and look forward to seeing them at the finish line.


My personal opinion is that you do not go down one timeline or the other. You coexist on millions of parallel timelines. I could start dowsing the number and by the time I have gotten the answer I could be in a different timeline where the number is different. You could kick the bucket in a parallel timeline and still have a half a million to a million parallel selves that are still alive and kicking.

I am staying away from any kind of hard predictions about things like this now because I do not want to lock myself or anyone else down to a certain set of timelines by effecting their beliefs about the future. You are probably right that the number in the timeline you checked was accurate. On the other hand you could have moved to a different timeline since you checked and did not realize it. The number in your current timeline may be less or more. Hopefully less. Because of this timeline jumping deal that everyone is doing, and is oblivious to, you might want to consider the number you have arrived at as one probability in a sea of millions of possible outcomes.

I had been checking back before I was shown the truth of the timeline logistics. When I was doing that I was dowsing percentages that would not make it. Every time I had checked it the quantity of people had gone down. The future is all probabilities. In an instant a person can have a paradigm shift, seamlessly transition into a different time line and make it. The old version of themselves continues down the timeline they left from like nothing happened. This kind of splitting does not happen every now and then. It happens anytime. Instead of one timeline of doom and gloom and one timeline of happiness and light. You have millions of them that are right now being segregated into subsets that all are slightly to drastically different to each other.

This is why I think it is dangerous for anyone to tell stories about what is going to happen. When doing this they are actually locking people down to one subset of timelines. Where as if the person forms their own beliefs then they have many more possible worlds to live in leading up to the shift. Perhaps after the shift all of your parallel selves and all of the things they learned become a singularity, and you benefit from the accumulated knowledge of millions of parallel lifetimes instead of one linear set of lives?

Here is another researcher who has found evidence of parallel timelines with his team of remote viewers and some interesting protocols they established for viewing future events. It is a must watch for anyone interested in this fringe mind bending stuff.

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My personal investigations into this parallel timeline deal started after I had multiple very real out of body experiences where I was shifted through multiple parallel timelines and my vantage point were some of my parallel selves. I then began to dowse how many parallel timelines I was in and the number was over 1 million. I then checked if I had died in any of them and got that I had in less than 10 of them. I then checked to see how many of them I had actually gotten as far with my souls progression in as I had in this life and the number was about 700. So right there I realized that some of my parallel selves would make it and some not. Giant brain f--ker. People have gone mad thinking about this stuff.

[Lionhawk]

Strength to you!

Reminder: You chose this :) Your probably regretting it sometimes, but it is quite helpful to remember that you chose, and you are a very qualified and very strong swimmer.

I for one am glad you did choose. We need all the help we can get down here.

There is a saying that I heard around these parts. The truth will set you free but first it will p!ss you off. What I see is that people on here - looking for answers are finding those answers of the p!ss-off variety.

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Anchor said it plain as day. "The truth will set you free but first it will p!ss you off."

I revealed a truth. Why? To bring to your awareness what is happening in the now. I don't have any regrets doing that. None! I wasn't looking for trouble when I came here. I'm also not here to create trouble. But I am here to share and the truth of what I know. It is a choice to observe it or not. At the same time, going back to this truth, I have every right to defend myself. How I do that is another story. One that they haven't figured out yet. It's like this. I have been attacked. Not because I went looking for it. I am also not the only one who has been attacked. I'm also not talking about how one may be attacked on a thread either. I'm talking about behind the scenes. With the use of technology that I have seen them use before. Again I didn't go looking for it. That was when I first started to bring this out in the open. I have better things to be doing then deal with this kind of thing. But at the same time, I have seen what kind of damage this stuff can do. I figure that if people have a heads up they can prevent bad stuff from happening. You can't do that if you just sit on the fence. I'm not sitting on the fence. Another thing is that if I didn't see all the positive people who are here, I would just probably leave myself. I came here because the work that many are doing to expose the truth, is so important in the now. I came to contribute. Not take. I brought my gifts and my talents, to help. That's it. Whether you accept that help is of your choosing. I have already been doing that. The results are showing up and I can only hope that it adds to the log pile that others here have already stacked up in these terms. We are here to help each other on any level we are capable of. So get a grip and either participate in the "SOULUTION, " or just sit on the fence and watch it pass by you. It matters not to me as I find these times very exciting and more exciting as I participate in them. Savy? If there is another way of putting it, it is walking the walk. Not talking the talk. I can back up what I am saying and it is no ego trip. So spare me that will ya?

Myplanet2,

Thanks for your input and I get for the most part of what you're saying. But I also have to tell you that this is not a game. Maybe some are treating it like a game, but it is no game. If you were to have contact with any real ascended being out there, they will tell you that the darkside is here. These things even have the gall, to attack Heaven. They don't succeed but they try. I can't sugar coat it as others have. If the emissaries from Heaven say that we are in a war and that it is a battle for souls, then just look around and tell me that is false. When I look around, I see it. Not because I want to. Again the truth will set you free. What you don't know is that I have been fighting for my right to live since I can remember. My childhood was terrifying. By the time I was 7, I had experienced a Draconian, an abduction attempt, and lived in a house that would make the movie Poltergeist look like a cartoon. So you bet I take this stuff seriously. You wouldn't want to have this resume'. Hell I don't even want it but I have had to make due with the cards that were dealt me. What else can you do but try to make the best of it? Also to still have some kind of sense of humor. It's like this.... If you are a lighted being, they want to snuff you out. Plain and that simple. Their hate is what drives them and it is our love of Creation that drives us to go forward. Even the best of the best are prone for an attack. Not because they asked for it. Nobody in their right mind wants that. It is a perception. It is also whether you can perceive the whole spectrum and not just limited parts of it.

When I was young, my father took up the bottle because he didn't know how to deal with what was happening in the home place. He wanted to numb his perception because of what was going was beyond any explanation. When you are a parent, one of the first instincts is to protect your young. He didn't have any answers as to how to do that. When these things come after your kids, it gives a whole new meaning to the word game.

When you have friends, you also want to protect them. Hiding behind some rock somewhere isn't going to get that done. It's also selfish. On the same lines of suicide. A very selfish act. I am not about to hide from it now. I don't know how.

But make no mistake as a battle has been going on for years. Ets and the rest of it. That is why it is important that we at this forum and everywhere else, do what we can to insure that we become into being. In the meantime, I am going to do what I can behind the scenes, to insure, that the mess is dealt with. It has already begun and there are more here that concur with that because they have seen what has happened. It just isn't a forum, it is a place where souls gather to improve themselves to become into being. The forum is just a template, an intersection where this can take place. Look at where everyone is addressing from. All over the World. This is where we are at. Anchored in this 3D and in order for us to move upward, we have to just shed all the stuff and just BE.
Then the real work begins. Many are striving to graduate. Once you graduate, then you go to work. There are those also here, that could have left already as in what you call ascension, but because of the nature of what is going on, they are staying behind to see this whole thing through. Many think it is about their ascension. That's the illusion. It's about Gaia's ascension and that is why we are here. We came to assist her. Whatever that takes.

If you end up on a ship, you will have more responsibilities than you could dream of. No one is going home so quickly. But you will have better facilities and tools to assist what is about to happen. Do you think these Ets are here to just fly by and say Hi? We're here. They have been assisting the Planet for eons. The good ones that is. I can't help it that we have bad ones too. I didn't make or write any of this up. It isn't scifi. It just is. It is about the battle for souls. It is whether or not you choose where you decide where you make your stand.

So with that I want you to know I am making a stand in this forum. I will not go hide behind a rock. But rest assured I will make this stand with others as well because we know the value and importance that this format can achieve in terms of light. In terms of growth. My fire is lit, and you are more than welcomed to throw a log onto it. I gladly share it for the cause is greater than most will ever know.

In humble service, I bid you all a great day!

Let the truth set you free! Right on Anchor!

[Myplanet2]

fair enough, T3J. Nothing in your answer to disagree with.

Maybe one little clarification. I do believe it can be of benefit to spell out that the likelihood is that a lot of people will exit the game in the next while, and that it's by choice. This way, there is the option of not being drawn into the lower bands out of Grief or desire for revenge, etc. It leaves a way open to encounter death and not have your frequency knocked down as a result.

If it's possible to maintain a victim mentality, it's possible to return to fear and anger as ways of reacting, rather than to exercise choice in how one will deal.

everything else harmonizes with the model I currently favour.

[tone3jaguar]

Lionhawk,

I was once in the hostile universe paradigm. Actually I am 32 and I was in that paradigm for 31 years. That was the logical conclusion that I had come to based off of what I had seen and experienced which is very similar to what you describe. Even now I have this dualistic consciousness where sometimes I am in the old paradigm and sometimes I am peaceful in the new one. The new one being that the dark supernatural happenings in my life where actually a necessary catalyst for the development of my soul. I am still in the process of phasing out of the old hostile universe paradigm and into the peaceful universe paradigm. I think that this is exactly where I am supposed to be right now.

It is truly enigmatic because on the one hand I know that all forces regardless of polarity are all part of the learning template here in 3d reality. On the other hand when ever I am faced with the now rare circumstances of a supernatural or technological attack I go defensive because that is part of my warrior nature. Then every time after it is over I look back at what happened with impartiality because I know that it was all just an illusion.

[tone3jaguar]

Here is another good way of visualizing the whole timeline deal that I found on a Google image search. I am not sure who came up with this, but I think it is a great graphic to explain the logistics.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/NeuroTimlines.jpg

[Myplanet2]

Lionhawk, I'm sorry, but no. We are miles apart in our perspectives.

disengaging is not hiding. Walking away from a conflict is not hiding, nor is it a sign of a lack of courage. If it is true that no one wins a fight, and that it simply strengthens a polarity, then deciding one will "take a stand" is simply an intentional prolonging of a terminally ill game. And yes, it is a game. Not the slightest shadow of a doubt about that. It can look all serious and scary with 3D eyes and emotions, but it's just a silly little game from another perspective, which is where I choose to look from.

If you succeed in turning Avalon into some sort of battleground where "good" makes its final stand against "evil", and it actually takes hold, then I'll take my final leave of this place with all alacrity, because I'm not interested in taking a thousand steps back after all the forward progress I've made in being here, and learning and growing, over the last year.

fear holds no interest for me at this point.

All the ascended beings I've been in contact with, including those who've never descended in the first place, meaning they never came down into the lower realms to have that experience and then having to work their way back up and out, say virtually the same thing. Yes, there is dark, but it's so the light will mean something, and it's only seen as polarized to the degree that you describe in good ole 3D. nowhere higher than that. It's our 3D perspective to take that view. I've addressed the issue of the idea of battles in heaven and the creator in a power struggle with some entity that thinks it knows better, and all that fantasy, and the 12th dimensional beings say that's nonsense. never happened. It's hilarious to even consider. Its 3D invention. Ask the being formerly known as Jesus, or ask Archangel Metatron, or Michael. The story originates in our realm, not theirs.

After sorting that controversy out, the higher dimensional beings go on to describe how to disentangle ourselves from this "mess" as you put it, and never once has one of them that I've talked to, said "fight", or "take a stand".

Not sure what your "ships" reference refers to. The only higher dimensional beings I'm in contact with who even use ships, are the Arcturians, and we'd never see those if they didn't want us to. The Arcturians are my primary guides, personally, and they are warriors and protectors. They don't fight. They use love to restore harmony, as do all the rest.

The way up and out of this mess is not to follow the patterns that got us into it. Einstein said something about a problem requiring a higher level of consciousness to solve it than the one that created it. I agree with this view in this case.

Anything which guides you towards conflict, is not of the highest light. Of that I am also 100% certain. You have to watch who you talk to.

[Myplanet2]

Lionhawk,

I was once in the hostile universe paradigm. Actually I am 32 and I was in that paradigm for 31 years. That was the logical conclusion that I had come to based off of what I had seen and experienced which is very similar to what you describe. Even now I have this dualistic consciousness where sometimes I am in the old paradigm and sometimes I am peaceful in the new one. The new one being that the dark supernatural happenings in my life where actually a necessary catalyst for the development of my soul. I am still in the process of phasing out of the old hostile universe paradigm and into the peaceful universe paradigm. I think that this is exactly where I am supposed to be right now.

It is truly enigmatic because on the one hand I know that all forces regardless of polarity are all part of the learning template here in 3d reality. On the other hand when ever I am faced with the now rare circumstances of a supernatural or technological attack I go defensive because that is part of my warrior nature. Then every time after it is over I look back at what happened with impartiality because I know that it was all just an illusion.

Here's a tidbit from Jim Self, T3J. Paradox only means what we understand it to mean in 3D. In 4D and beyond, it actually means what was true before, may not be true now, and what was false before, may not be false now. This is interesting because it is the basis of choice, and also has the interesting quality of bypassing the apparency of time. This is what changes the past to bring it in support of the now moment. And changes the future to bring it into support of the now moment. 4th and 5th D have no then. It provides choice. We choose now, and "then" supports our choice. too cool.

[Myplanet2]

Here is another good way of visualizing the whole timeline deal that I found on a Google image search. I am not sure who came up with this, but I think it is a great graphic to explain the logistics.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/NeuroTimlines.jpg

Bashar and the 9th Dimensional Pleiadian collective have excellent descriptions for this multiple timeline model. Their description includes covering how the model changes as our perceptions and vibrational frequency change. Not far from the linear perspective that is more customary for us still, is the notion that all these parallel universes coexist in the now, outside of 3D, and not even in the sense of running concurrently, but literally now. A single point in which everything happens, and we simply choose from the smorgasbord of experiences. So that shifts the notion of us having lived so many times, to the notion of a large number of examples of Me having the experience of a lifetime, at the same time, and if we contact another one, we are drawing on the experience of another me, all coordinated by our higherselves/oversouls.

To project out from this premise, you have to bend your linear 3D consciousness tools to see that the entire round trip learning experience away from All that is (insert label of choice) took no time. it was a singularity which occurred in not time at all.

A hint of the scope of the intelligence at work here.

[Lionhawk]

Tone3Jaguar,

Yes the paradigm. That term can screw with your head if you're not careful. Everyone's understanding of that is a personal one at best. But if we look at it in dimensions it makes better sense to me. But the word paradigm gives the idea of endless possibilities of what you want. Now this is where I have to back up and not put the cart before the horse.

When you are two years old, it's not like you have any spelling B trophies. Or have any education to speak of. You barely have any sense of where the toilet is. You have no idea where that stuff goes. Heck, they didn't even have kindergarten when I came up in my little town. I must be getting old. Never thought I would ever say that.

This stuff is dimensional to me. Heaven as most call it, is in the very paradigm that everyone seems to want to get away from. That shift has not occurred yet as far as I know it. It might shift to another paradigm after 2012 but it hasn't yet. Maybe in another time line. The possibilities are endless. My point is I am in the now dealing with the present paradigm as it stands. Anything else is just la la land. I'm not saying it isn't real but I am in this one and that is where I am working from. I am grounded here as with everyone else. If you were in another paradigm we wouldn't be having this conversation. So I am dealing with what I have. As far as I can tell , we are still in a hostile paradigm.

It isn't like I could go back to another paradigm either, in this life stream. They would be different worlds apart. What I am saying is that we chose to come here in this time line and that is what we are dealing with. We were birthed here into all this stuff. We were born into it. Some born into a war, famine, cold, and every possibility imaginable with it's polarity. It is what it is here. I have heard people say we will be going into the fifth like it is going to be one cool ride. At the same time they don't work on advancing themselves to change their base frequency to match those higher densities. It's just dreamland as in another paradigm that they feel entitled to. What I am saying is that we are here and everything else is somewhere else until we accomplish what needs to be done here first. The cart before the horse is just a crazy painting. I don't need to complicate what is already complicated. I strive to simplify it the best way I can so that I can see clearly what I have to do next. I'm not going to be skipping the rungs on a ladder just so I can get there quicker with the possibility of risking the missing of a rung. It's a long fall. I just want to get it right the first time so I don't have to go back and start all over again. Been there done that. Who hasn't?

Just know that where we are is still here. The big picture isn't pretty and it is how we swim through it. The more stuff that is hanging off you the slower you'll be able to swim. Granted we are striving to get to that other paradigm but we have to swim through here first. I know I can't have a bunch of stuff hanging on me anyways. I sink without as it is.

[Anchor]

It isn't about using discernment. It is about using extreme discernment.

My new sig :)

There is a fire that is going within this site and there will be a gathering of energy to purge these agents. I can already see them screaming. I can also see them running. Running away from the flames. I also suspect that now since I have addressed this, the heat will be turned up. Let's turn it up.

Yes, lets.

A..

[tone3jaguar]

Jumping on the MP2 bandwagon, another quote from Einstein...

"The the most important decision a person will ever make is if they live in a hostile universe or a peaceful one."

Even if your reality right now seems apparently fixed, it could change in an instant with one shift in your set of core beliefs. One time I had a massive shift in consciousness when I first woke up to the spiritual world almost 13 years ago. The reality was so much different that there where even buildings where there did not used to be buildings. That is how radically one can shift their timeline.

[Anchor]

Mess??? Some of us like the thing you call a mess :sneaky2:
You can't just walk into a forum and decide that it's wrong and not what you want it to be :thumbdown:

I dont think that is what is happening (or being said).

The site will evolve beyond the bounds of the original intention (which was achieved quite well at the time).

What is certain is that it wont be shaped by individuals.

A..

[Swanny]

Some interesting ideas here.
It's great how the mind works, you can think to yourself that you have it all worked out, even find people that think along the same lines as you, and then something new pops up and that that was so true doesn't quite fit anymore.
It's safe to say none of us know where we are headed, we just think we might have an idea.
IMO the most important thing is not to let the ego take over and look down on others just because you think you know something they don't, only an ars ehole would do such a thing, and my bet is that they don't allow over inflated egos in the next dimension :wink2:

[Swanny]

I dont think that is what is happening (or being said).


Yea I think you maybe right. Guess I just dont like arrogant jumped up people that think they know better than others
:original:

[Karen]

I believe they are here to see the Lotus open.
I'd like to know where I can find more information about this.

[tone3jaguar]

Ok, so I am the curious cat. I was sitting here thinking, if there really are that many craft parked around the earth then I wonder if they will let me take pics of their craft. So I went outside and sent the message out with my inner voice that said.

"If any of the craft and beings that are around the Earth right now or anywhere in the cosmos would allow me to take pictures of your craft in a safe way for you then please come here now."

I had done this because I had heard Steven Greer telling the story of a woman he knew who had one night sensed that there was a craft nearby, but could not see it. So she just took out the camera on automatic and took a couple of shots and the camera took pics of a craft. I figured, what the hell. I have a camera with a flash and it is getting dark out.

Here are the results, the lens is clean and these pics where taken with my Cannon Digital set on automatic with the flash on. You decide for yourself, I personally have never seen stuff like this on any of my night time photos.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/nightufo004.jpg

For this pic there was cloud cover where the points of light showed up. Moreover, you usually do not get very good pics of stars with the flash on. So I think that rules out stars.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/nightufo002.jpg

[tone3jaguar]

Also to note was that you could not see any of these things, the just showed up on the photos.

[Lionhawk]

Well Glory be..... I just watched this lady called Miriam, one of the Camelot interviews. It was posted last month and she had a message. That's weird........how can that be? It was a healthy message but that is my opinion. Has anyone here in this thread seen it? I concur. Sounds like good advice.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/miriam_delicado.html

OH,OH, lookey there. The new sig looks good on you Anchor! That's pretty coool. Wear it well!

Peace!

[tone3jaguar]

So I was sitting here thinking, wow holy f--king s--t I can't believe that actually worked. Let me try that again sitting in the same spot. For a frame of reference I am sitting on the back deck of my fathers house in Charlotte N.C. Again for these pics I could see nothing before the flash went off. However, this time I watched the sky while the flash was going off and I could see the what ever they are light up at the same time and duration as the flash. I encourage others to try this themselves and post up in this thread.

Here you go
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/nightufophotos2005.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/nightufophotos2006.jpg

[Karen]

Yes, I risk being banned for sounding the alarm. But, I've been
wounded before.

I was out of town for the day visiting family gathered from 5 locations. Now, I'm playing catch up.

No one will be banned for respectfully sounding the alarm. No one has been banned from here for a long time. Don't call names, don't make personal attacks, don't make statements that look like threats to those not familiar with your intent. Say what you need to say "With Respect". Kerry does not condone any kind of censorship, nor any kind of senseless banning. If you want to warn, warn! Ridicule is not respectful - no one deserves that. Each is on their own path. Some will resonate with Tone3jaguar, some with Tango, some with Lionhawk, some with MyPlanet2 or Anchor. Some with parts of what several have to share.

Please stop bashing each other with the ridicule stick. I know each and every one of you is capable of respectful disagreement, some have just exercised that muscle more than others. Some have been wounded in ways you can barely imagine. Yes, some show more ego than others - do you have to shout it in their face every time they poke their head up to share?

[Barcarolle]

This thread has taken off - so much to catch up on

Myplanet2 made reference to a split "whether to stand up and engage, or whether to walk away from polarity and choose non judgement, unconditional love, and unity"

Interesting comment and mostly true, however unconditional love does not exist in the 3rd Dimension, you may attempt to hold a high frequency but unconditional love is a 5th+ Dimensional state of consciousness, this where I believe a fundamental issue is with people seeking the unconditional love frequency.

To completely raise your resonance or frequency you must pass the Shadow Self(dark side), you cannot pass it using ignorance of the Shadow Self and its existence, the problem I see are people just blocking out all the bad things creating a bubble, self imposed blockage or protective shield mechanism from the Shadow and by doing so creates denial to its existence. I notice so many people portray an artificial resonance without strong foundation and this I feel is where we must think about carefully as without this understanding we may never reach our goal. E.g. You talk to someone who is happy with themselves, joyous and in a fantastic mood, and if someone were to mention something negative(oh the market is going to collapse watch its only a matter of time) they cant handle the thought of the information, they resort to attacking the messenger sometimes showing a side that they themselves didn't even know about.

Those who understand and know of the shadow self and its part have the greatest opportunity in respecting its place and thus further understanding how unconditional love can be attained as once you reach unconditional love you no longer are in the 3D realm.

So being in love and light is a conscious choice of being but at the same time understanding the dark and shadow side and its roll is as equally important.

Namaste'

[Lionhawk]

That was a cool run down. Different but very much an important truth. Let me read that again. Absolutely! The template of duality is what operates here in this world. Which makes love conditional. Now pushing unconditional love into the fifth is very close as to what I have experienced. In the sense that the Angelic realm resides in the upper part of the fourth and unconditional love resides there as well. But for the purposes of the 5th, one must go there to be able to experience that. Well said! Also the statement I hear all the time is that the ego is a bad thing and shouldn't be able to participate in the journey. That will only cause more separation within you if you exercise that. Your ego can be a healthy ego and it is a part of who you are. Take it out of you and you will have a dull and boring existence. It puts some gratitude emotionally back into you. If it is healthy and balanced, it will also make things just go better. If you deny it you are deny a part of yourself. If you embrace it as a part of who you are, then you will have a better sense within you. Any denial of self is a blockage.

Balance is always key!

:thumb_yello:

[Karen]

So I was sitting here thinking, wow holy f--king s--t I can't believe that actually worked.

Tone3, We have the cuss word filter on for a reason. I don't mind the occasional bypass, but please cease, you are going way overboard with it.

Thank you,
Karen

[bushycat]

BARCAROLLE-
Makes sense. An attachment holds condition, staying in the shadows.
Light in the shadows=freedom to rise to our dimensions...enlightenment.

LIONHAWK
I agree. Denial of self is a blockage, and so we cannot see Self. Ego's
great- we just need to see it for what it is. Balance is crucial, as you
say, and acceptance. Balance is an interesting subject, because much
of the population on the planet would say that we here are pretty unbalanced
and belong in the looney bin. It's a rather fun little secret...

Love Always,
Bushycat

[Lionhawk]

Someone also mentioned that when the ETs look down on the Planet, they see a bunch of mad bees. Alex Collier maybe?

Thanks Bushy Cat! Love your energy!

[bushycat]

Thanks, Lionhawk.
Well, maybe see mad bees swarming planet, and compassionate ET's understand,
and also see balance where there is balance...

[Myplanet2]

This thread has taken off - so much to catch up on

Myplanet2 made reference to a split "whether to stand up and engage, or whether to walk away from polarity and choose non judgement, unconditional love, and unity"

Interesting comment and mostly true, however unconditional love does not exist in the 3rd Dimension, you may attempt to hold a high frequency but unconditional love is a 5th+ Dimensional state of consciousness, this where I believe a fundamental issue is with people seeking the unconditional love frequency.

To completely raise your resonance or frequency you must pass the Shadow Self(dark side), you cannot pass it using ignorance of the Shadow Self and its existence, the problem I see are people just blocking out all the bad things creating a bubble, self imposed blockage or protective shield mechanism from the Shadow and by doing so creates denial to its existence. I notice so many people portray an artificial resonance without strong foundation and this I feel is where we must think about carefully as without this understanding we may never reach our goal. E.g. You talk to someone who is happy with themselves, joyous and in a fantastic mood, and if someone were to mention something negative(oh the market is going to collapse watch its only a matter of time) they cant handle the thought of the information, they resort to attacking the messenger sometimes showing a side that they themselves didn't even know about.

Those who understand and know of the shadow self and its part have the greatest opportunity in respecting its place and thus further understanding how unconditional love can be attained as once you reach unconditional love you no longer are in the 3D realm.

So being in love and light is a conscious choice of being but at the same time understanding the dark and shadow side and its roll is as equally important.

Namaste'

It's not easy to know whether you are using the same terms with the same definitions as others, so I refrain from disagreeing until it's clear. I think I see where you point, so let me elucidate a bit.

If it's true that Paradox in 4D means something different than it does in 3D, then the door is open to consider that things are changing at a basic level. The only person I've heard define paradox as a 4D construct was Jim self, who said that it means "what was true before may not be true now, and what was untrue before, may be true now." The net result would be choice, under that definition.

I'm not certain that unconditional love is unavailable in 3D, but I tend to agree. But that doesn't mean that will remain true. I can see a scenario where this could be. I've heard a few teachers mention that we're on uncharted territory right now in this shift, and that it may not be entirely accurate to think that we are going anywhere in this shift. The possibility has been suggested that we are bringing the higher dimensions here where we are. bringing heaven to earth, as another way of putting it.

Although it's not yet real to me, it makes some sense, or at least is worth considering.

I hesitate to concur that the shadow self must be passed before the frequency can be raised to 5D consciousness level. perhaps I don't know what you mean by that. I think it's plain that anyone who is oblivious of their dark side is going nowhere beyond 3D, because it would mean most of their work is before them. All the dark aspects of all the polarities have to be reintegrated and discharged before a truly higher frequency can be maintained for more than a short span. It's part of who we are. It's part of all that is, and as Bashar is fond of saying, "All that is, wouldn't be all that is, without all that is".

we split what we look at as polarity apart for contrast and context, and came to the densityville of 3D to fully experience that contrast.

So if you mean that this has to be repaired before stably climbing to the higher frequencies, approaching unconditional love, then I would agree with that notion.

What I'm seeing as I do my work and rise up, is that these dimensions are not discrete places, but that they are all available here and now, under the right circumstances. There is little 3d structure left for me now. I'm seeing a natural choice of 4D structures in my daily life, and I see myself consciously moving towards unconditional love, although I'm nowhere near yet. Just getting the first tastes. I don't know whether that means I'm making brief visits to 5D, or whether I'm bringing 5D tools to 3D.

Maybe the rules are changing. maybe as earth nears 4D, the new definition of paradox is becoming possible more broadly, and what was true a moment ago, is no longer true now. I'm staying flexible and open to this possibility.

having just spent some months examining my dark side, I can see why some would try to wall it off, but it can never work. Unless that too changes, and it can work. :naughty:

Uncharted territory. we can make new rules.

[tone3jaguar]

I think the ET's look down at our planet and see a little of themselves in us. They where not always advanced spiritual beings. They went through this once upon a time just like we are. They probably just feel compassion for us.

[bushycat]

I think the ET's look down at our planet and see a little of themselves in us. They where not always advanced spiritual beings. They went through this once upon a time just like we are. They probably just feel compassion for us.

I'll bet you're quite right on this. I'll bet also we fascinate them enormously. Pretty good show going on.

[bushycat]

[MYPLANET

I think unconditonal love can exist in 3D when we "stradle" dimensions, 3D-4D, etc., infrequently getting glimpses of 4D, fleeting, then back to 3D with some memory of it. One could say we're already in all dimensions, but I'm speaking of our experience. In uncharted territory we can make new rules, because it seems true that the paradox, due to the nature of Now, has to keep changing. It's the horizon we don't ever reach. We get to a point which was horizon, but now the sky's changed.
I'm staying flexible, too, and staying open to all possibilities (cannot conceive negative ones). It's so fabulous being on the crest of a wave...

Love Always,
BushycatFONT="Arial Narrow"][/FONT]

[Barcarolle]

Took 3 hours but i finally caught up

I also agree with lionhawks reply about this not being a game, as mentioned my myplanet2.

This may have been a flippant remark but completely dangerous. if you honestly think this is a game then you have already given up.

Nearly all of the new age religions now preach slogans of giving your self to the lord, or giving up your power to another ect, i can see great danger in this as this also implys that someone will come to save us so dont worry or let someone else worry about it, its too difficult or who cares mentality.

All of these forms of conditioning are to prevent us from taking responsability and doing something for greater good for not only us but for everyone else, unfortunately so many people have the victim mentality conditioned in their being ........ the truth is we were not given a chance to know the truth for eons, and have been mind controled every step we have taken.

Here is a chance while we still have some freedoms left to act and make things difficult for these control freaks and give them something off their radar and AI super computers give them. If we move like sheep we are easily controled, but if we all scatter in all directions then things begin to work for us.

Namaste'

[no caste]

Tone3, We have the cuss word filter on for a reason. I don't mind the occasional bypass, but please cease, you are going way overboard with it. Karen

Hi Karen - :original: On the issue of swearing, which I am also prone to do, I have to add here that swearing has medicinal properties. Normally, I'm very friendly out in public. But once I said 'W_T_F?!?' with a bank representative, and she blew back 4 feet in her wheely chair.

Bad language could be good for you, a new study shows. For the first time, psychologists have found that swearing may serve an important function in relieving pain.

The study, published today in the journal NeuroReport, measured how long college students could keep their hands immersed in cold water. During the chilly exercise, they could repeat an expletive of their choice or chant a neutral word. When swearing, the 67 student volunteers reported less pain and on average endured about 40 seconds longer.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-do-we-swear

:naughty::naughty:

T3G - I also swear when I'm blown back by certain experiences or perceptions - !

[tone3jaguar]

Ive got finger torrettes

[TheObserver]

Next time try the phrase 'sacred coital dung'! :lol3:

[Sarahmay]

Someone also mentioned that when the ETs look down on the Planet, they see a bunch of mad bees. Alex Collier maybe?

Thanks Bushy Cat! Love your energy!

Hey, it's a lot harder in the 3rd dimension than it looks! Come on down here and try it for awhile...

[Myplanet2]

Took 3 hours but i finally caught up

I also agree with lionhawks reply about this not being a game, as mentioned my myplanet2.

This may have been a flippant remark but completely dangerous. if you honestly think this is a game then you have already given up.

Nearly all of the new age religions now preach slogans of giving your self to the lord, or giving up your power to another ect, i can see great danger in this as this also implys that someone will come to save us so dont worry or let someone else worry about it, its too difficult or who cares mentality.

All of these forms of conditioning are to prevent us from taking responsability and doing something for greater good for not only us but for everyone else, unfortunately so many people have the victim mentality conditioned in their being ........ the truth is we were not given a chance to know the truth for eons, and have been mind controled every step we have taken.

Here is a chance while we still have some freedoms left to act and make things difficult for these control freaks and give them something off their radar and AI super computers give them. If we move like sheep we are easily controled, but if we all scatter in all directions then things begin to work for us.

Namaste'

I was completely serious when I said this was a game. It's so obvious when looked at from outside. My wife yesterday recounted the story of an experience she had a few months back, where she was driving to the store and 3D flickered and winked out for a couple of seconds intermittently. Her 9th Dimensional Pleiadian guides told her she slipped through the "veil" to another dimension momentarily, and then put things back as they were. I've personally had the "hologram" waver and bend and twist, to where space was not uniform. These types of experience show things not to be as solid and rigid as they pretend to be.

I'm not sure how you are connecting dots here, because I don't interact with any new age religions, or even know what they are. The game here is extreme "highs and lows in polarity". So hell yeah, it can seem serious, but looked at from above, it's no more serious than stubbing the toe. War, death, pain, hatred, abuse, etc, at the end of the day, is no more serious than stubbing the toe. War is a stepped up football game, or chess game. Same thing only bigger and more extremes piled on.

No, there is no one to give ones responsibility and power to. Nobody in a position to receive such, would accept it. They know why we are here, and what we are here to do.

This isn't about giving up, or being a victim. Again, I don't know how you connect those things with likening what we are doing to a game.

What is not obvious from within this game, is that it has already been won. The game is over, and the contestants are still standing there on either side of the line in the sand saying "yeah???? What of it???? you want to go again????"

The idea of winners and losers or even gloating winners and sore losers, is only possible within the game. The game just needs exiting. just put down the football. It's over. We won. Walk away from the line, and so will the other "side". They are only still standing there glaring at you, because you are still standing there glaring at them.

[no caste]

MyPlanet2 -

I was completely serious when I said this was a game. It's so obvious when looked at from outside.

This reminds me of a quote I read recently: There is a God! And he's a gag writer!

What is not obvious from within this game, is that it has already been won. The game is over, and the contestants are still standing there on either side of the line in the sand saying "yeah???? What of it???? you want to go again????"

It's a game mirage IMO, to be played, in case it's not a mirage. All D's are equal, even 0 D, 1 D etc.

It's over. We won. Walk away from the line, and so will the other "side". They are only still standing there glaring at you, because you are still standing there glaring at them.

I have the feeling that we (humanity) have all looped through this before. It's in our memory. And I guess that would be genetic memory. I just had a thought about what 'harmonic convergence' means, for me. I'm going to think about it for a bit.

[Lionhawk]

And the prize is your soul!

[Christo888]

Hey, it's a lot harder in the 3rd dimension than it looks! Come on down here and try it for awhile...
:mfr_lol::mfr_lol:

Sarahmay that is so true!!! Never put it together in that perspective...:lol3:

Ya it must be nice to sit back and drive around all life in biological thought ships and travel through time and dimension...

Come here in 3d for awhile show us what you got! Easier on the other side of the fence to laugh and joke about this side of the fence isn't it! :lol3:

Interesting perspective... :thumb_yello:

[Christo888]

Cool stuff 'Myplanet2' ... JC Penny- "It's all inside":shocked:

[Myplanet2]

And the prize is your soul!

who would be stupid enough to offer their soul up as a prize? Nobody can touch your soul without your permission. I really don't know where you get your stuff from, but please post links so we know where not to go for info.

[Lionhawk]

Myplanet2,

Sorry dude as I am not a link junkie.

[Barcarolle]

the prize is your soul !

i like that, meaning you get to connect back with it, your core being, and this is the reward for those that chose not to sell their soul to a demonic/satanic entity or secret society.

I understand how this matrix/ hologram we call 3D may be looked as a game by some but when your soul and core being is involved its the ultimate game without a rule book or referee.

Make no mistake this is a spiritual war on us all, our power is the soul as it never dies, these negative entities feed from sold souls.

being sovereign is protecting your soul and keeping your power.

Namaste'

[Lionhawk]

You want to see it as a game? In away I understand that as that maybe a term that can enable someone to learn something much faster. For instance where I use to struggle with math until the day I made it into a game. Then it just opened up on me because in a game you are suppose to have fun. I made math fun, I can go with that. But when your life is on the line, what do you call it then? When there is a Draconian in your bedroom, there to take you as a food source, would you still consider it a game? Or would try to change the circumstance by figuring out what the polarity factors are? For one thing, I was to young to understand anything about polarity or what a game actually was. At three years old, like I said somewhere else, you are barely aware of what a toilet is. In that bedroom, all I experienced was terror. It wasn't a dream. It isn't a game when your Dad comes home from work and good ole Mom pulls him over to the side and says, "Honey, there was something in Jr's closet last night , like he tried to tell us, and all the stuff in the closet was torn to shreds like someone used a razor.Then your Dad spends the next 4 hours investigating what or how anything could get into or out of the place. Then to end up empty handed with no answers. What kind of game would anyone call that? In a game you're supposed to have fun. It's an artificial form of entertainment. So don't take this the wrong way MP2 as what may work for you is just different as to what works for me. That's really the only difference here as to what we are discussing. The words can sometime confuse what we are really trying to say. I can accept that if this is the case.

[TraineeHuman]

Yes, I’ve also been experiencing a real intensification in the amount and quality of (“benevolent”) energy and help coming from somewhere. It seemed to increase some time in the first half of last year, and then again this year, and again in the last two months or so. I usually meditate for 15 minutes a day. Lately, it takes about a second to get into bliss and extreme peace – which, as at least some of you know, really are far more pleasurable than the love or joy you can experience in any other type of human experience. The interesting thing is, until a few months ago, I usually didn’t get into that state until several minutes into meditation. And that's only one example I could give. The energy around us is certainly running at a higher and finer level. The big question is, what specifically does that mean?

I have some difficulties with the notion of “ascension”. Some time ago I eventually did come to the conclusion that why we’re all ultimately here is that in some sense we volunteered, a long time ago. We volunteered to help raise the “level,” the “vibration rate,” of matter itself. So I can go along with the idea of ascension in the sense that the matter on this planet is being raised onto a higher level. However, I suspect it’ll still remain matter.

To say that Earth is currently in 3D and wants to rise to 5D doesn’t make sense to me, I’m afraid. I happen to know that the Earth is a conscious divine being. And I guess some from a Christian background may feel offended if I say the Earth’s consciousness seems to be at a much higher level than that of Jesus or the other Gods, etc. But that’s the truth, as I understand it. The Earth’s consciousness is already at so much higher a level than “5D” – whatever “5D” exactly is.

[tone3jaguar]

The hyperdimensional geometry of the earth is currently in a 3d format. There will be a shift to 4d format probably sometime in early 2011, then on the famous date in 2012 every dimension in the universe will move up one as a result of the entire universe making an evolutionary leap pushing Earth to 5d. That is the end of the greatest cycle, the 16.4 billion year long cycle as depicted in the Mayan Long Count.

You are right that the earth and everyone on it is already at higher dimensional frequencies, we are just talking from the perspective of our consciousness how we "might" perceive it. Things get so strange once in the inverted time domain of the 4th dimension that we will probably have a much more advanced understanding of it there just because we are no so far away from it.

[orthodoxymoron]

I was completely serious when I said this was a game. It's so obvious when looked at from outside. My wife yesterday recounted the story of an experience she had a few months back, where she was driving to the store and 3D flickered and winked out for a couple of seconds intermittently. Her 9th Dimensional Pleiadian guides told her she slipped through the "veil" to another dimension momentarily, and then put things back as they were. I've personally had the "hologram" waver and bend and twist, to where space was not uniform. These types of experience show things not to be as solid and rigid as they pretend to be.

I'm not sure how you are connecting dots here, because I don't interact with any new age religions, or even know what they are. The game here is extreme "highs and lows in polarity". So hell yeah, it can seem serious, but looked at from above, it's no more serious than stubbing the toe. War, death, pain, hatred, abuse, etc, at the end of the day, is no more serious than stubbing the toe. War is a stepped up football game, or chess game. Same thing only bigger and more extremes piled on.

No, there is no one to give ones responsibility and power to. Nobody in a position to receive such, would accept it. They know why we are here, and what we are here to do.

This isn't about giving up, or being a victim. Again, I don't know how you connect those things with likening what we are doing to a game.

What is not obvious from within this game, is that it has already been won. The game is over, and the contestants are still standing there on either side of the line in the sand saying "yeah???? What of it???? you want to go again????"

The idea of winners and losers or even gloating winners and sore losers, is only possible within the game. The game just needs exiting. just put down the football. It's over. We won. Walk away from the line, and so will the other "side". They are only still standing there glaring at you, because you are still standing there glaring at them.

I consider life to be a game of sorts...and that game playing gives meaning and interest to life. The key is to engage in Constructive Competition rather than Destructive Competition. Honest and productive business is an example of Constructive Competition. War is an example of Destructive Competition. This is an extremely important point. Competition and Game Playing are integral parts of Freedom. But Freedom must be Responsible...and Competition must be Constructive.

[Lionhawk]

There is so much light being directed on the planet right now. It's a good thing! Because we sure have needed it. You can tell just by looking around. Even people that you would deem normal are fine one minute and then freak out the next. The light is slowly exposing the darkness out of the shadows. Wherever the shadows maybe hiding. It is also gathering and things will escalate because that is the nature of light. Speed. Vibration being the product of frequency times energy.

I have seen a vision of where this Planet speeds up so fast that it becomes a small star. If that happens, the Reptilians can kiss their butts good-bye. It is a scenario that I hope with all of my being. The days of servitude will be forever wiped out. Unconditional Love will be the new ruler. Gaia will finally ascend and we can either stay or go home. I don't know about you out there but home sounds really good to me.

That is why it is important that everyone who are able, to continue the work within. It will only speed up the frequency of the Planet as you are connected through your root chakra. It only contributes or adds to that frequency of the Planet. That is why it is important that those who can shed the stuff of resistance to do so as that will increase and channel the power from your Divine spark within. Simple electronic principles at work and you are the energy source combined with all the other energy sources to make it happen.

Your life force is anchored to this Planet and the goal is to become a conduit of least resistance. That is why we have the potential of becoming very powerful. In this scenario it is going to be how we finish. We have volunteered. We exercised our free agency to be part of this. Many on the outside off world have told us on so many occasions how special we all are. It is because of what we can do, our potential. Your potential is to be a living channel in the first hand. The mechanics are simple and most of you know them already. When you meditate. Do it standing up. Energy comes through your crown chakra down through your other chakras and out through your root chakra straight into the Earth. A conduit of energy. Now when you open that crown chakra and let all this light come in and flow through you, you amplify this energy. Now if everyone who could would at the same time all across the world, this paradigm of servitude would be over.

The big secret that they don't want you to know is that you are already an ascended being. So I scratch my head when I see others chasing something they have already within in the name of ascension. It is another way to distract you from this very truth. Add to this that the ones seeking ascension are seeking it for themselves outside of themselves using second hand methods. So you have something equated to STS and in the second hand. That's dis-empowering from everything in basic spirit 101 here on the Planet. Ask yourself this. Why does the God Spark within you have to achieve ascension? Isn't the God Spark already the God Spark? Ponder this and try not to complicate it. It isn't complicated.
It is merely PROFOUND!

Namaste'

[mntruthseeker]

Wow I had so much written out here and "poof" it just disapeared.....

Thanks T3J for the pictures you posted........I love the way they showed up for you. More than just one !

Reading some of the post in here made me realize that my struggles are not so one sided and very minor to what others had to endurred on earth.

I can't imagine what being abducted would be like nor do I want to. I just want to go home like the rest of you. I just hope that getting a "glimpse" of that part of the dark side is enough.

This thread was very deffinately needed to put aside some of my own thoughts of world today.

[14 Chakras]

We are more than it appears, infinitely more. We win the game when we stop reacting to it. When we realize it's really just a big movie set, and we're much more than the role we've been playing, then we're free. Time to move on up and continue with real life beyond the illusion matrix.

The devil wins when we react to it, the devil loses when you laugh at it.

The power is in you to do so. Call on the divine, be One with it, it is your true nature.

Man - KNOW THYSELF.

We are all divine Beings having a material experience. This is your world to take dominion over.

We will do so when we are in the game, but not of the game, we see clearly it is a game, a movie, a stage play and we are much more than it. For the world is a stage and all of us people are the players. One day we wake up, we stop being 'played' and we remember who we are beyond the movie script, infinitely more.

Let us surpass our expectations for the reasons we volunteered to come here and have a magnificent impact in raising up and healing this planet.

[TraineeHuman]

14 Chakras, I believe everything you're saying about being "in the game, but not [part] of the game," is so spot on.

As you also mention, it's not possible for us to do that unless we all learn how to really "know thyself".
The only reason why any of us ever sometimes continue to believe we're limited is, we haven't learnt to accept and like and forgive certain things within ourselves. And knowing oneself is all about knowing what's within.

The only reason there are times when we don't connect with the awesome strength and ingenuity of being eternal and infinite spirits is that at those times our "buttons" get pushed. It's so important to accept your buttons, to be OK about their being there. When you really do, that's what heals those buttons -- and so they get weaker and vanish.

[Noela]

Brook - I agree with what you posted regarding "knowing" and
how the ego colours information given out.

Yes, I think this is true of George Kavassilas and most other
teachers, channelled material etc.

What I try to do is see how what a particular person is
putting out concurs with other information, and some of
what G.K. says passes this test, which is why I like him -
with reservations.

[feardia]

...What I try to do is see how what a particular person is putting out concurs with other information, and some of
what G.K. says passes this test, which is why I like him -
with reservations.

Quite right noela, it is all about discernment, gk has some great information which I feel is right, he admitted he was duped by the Galactic Federation who lied to him about the dimensions etc., but he has continued on his path and found his own truth, that is what we are all doing. There is some dangerous information out there which will fool a lot of the newly awakening who haven't been down the rabbit hole as long as some of us avalonians.

KEEP OFF THE SHIPS is a refrain which keeps singing in my soul...

[BROOK]

Brook - I agree with what you posted regarding "knowing" and
how the ego colours information given out.

Yes, I think this is true of George Kavassilas and most other
teachers, channeled material etc.

What I try to do is see how what a particular person is
putting out concurs with other information, and some of
what G.K. says passes this test, which is why I like him -
with reservations.
Agreeing Noela...with reservations....the ego As Lionhawk said needs to be balanced and healthy...I did a thread once on Knowing and Freedom....it was about letting go of the programming of the self by social consciousness...that self being the EGO..the you that you believe you are in this life...you cannot and should not lose that...as that is your experience...however you really should seek the part of you that has the "knowing"..for that is where the truth is...and I believe that in the channeling it sometimes get clouded by the life experience of the channel himself.

A small example of conditioning

Is it really you?

I am born...I am the son of the Prince of Wales...I'm in line to be the next king of England. Everything around me is rich and posh. I want for nothing. My freedom to go in the public is infringed by cameras and reporters...I was raised to lead a Country. Everything around me reflects who I am...it was my destiny to be a King.


I am born...I am the son of a poor man in South Central Los Angeles....my brother is a gang member...I don't know how to read and write properly...it was not a priority...I'm going to grow up to be a gang member.....it was my destiny to be a gang member.

Now you can be neglected as a child or nurtured..that creates you in this experience this life...and the EGO

These are reflections of Social Consciousness..being termed the identity...

We all have egos...it's getting to the center that counts..to get to the center..to attain the unlimited knowing.

going to the real center..the self..the true self, everything changes, everything settles again. But now this settling is not done by the society. Now everything becomes a cosmos, not a chaos; a new order arises. But this is no longer the order of the society - it is the very order of existence itself.

Once you have reached that knowing..you will have true freedom....however .. lets explore FREEDOM

Freedom, from an existential perspective, cannot be separated from responsibility. With freedom comes responsibility. Yet, it is common for many people to seek freedom while trying to avoid responsibility. While, at times, it appears that people may be able to succeed at this, there remains a psychological consequence. This consequence is often not very noticeable, but may find expression through guilt, anxiety, depression, or even anger.

Existential freedom is not the same things as freedom in the political sense we often think of it in America. In fact, political freedom could be view to be a rather shallow, though not unimportant, type of freedom. A person can be existentially free despite not being politically free, and a person can avoid embracing their existential freedom despite being offered great political freedoms.


Ways of Avoiding Responsibility

There are several common examples of how people avoid responsibility in American culture. Conformity is one good example. Americans pride themselves on being autonomous individuals to the point of idealizing individualism. However, upon closer analysis, Americans find extremely creative ways of giving up their freedom. Americans conform through blind allegiance to various organizations and institutions including political parties and religious institutions. This is not to say that being dedicated to either of these are bad. In fact, often they can lead to very positive outcomes. The problem comes with blind allegiance where a person gives up their responsibility to critically think through the beliefs, perspectives, and values of the organization. When this happens, the individual's values are no longer authentic.

When a person gives their allegiance to an external belief structure, they may go in one of several directions. First, they often will become very rigid in their allegiance to the organization or structure to which they have committed. This type of conformity can be seen through various forms of fundamentalism -- religious, political, psychological systems, etc.

Second, they may present as being very committed to a belief systems or organization, but they feel very comfortable bending the rules where it does fit their desires. It becomes easy to bend the rules because they are not really committed to the underlying values system. However, when a person is deeply committed to authentic moral or value principles, they are less willing to act in ways which contradict these principles. The principles are authentic.

Another way avoid responsibility can occur through the belief that one is powerless. There can be many factors which are seen to render a person powerless. A person can perceive themselves as a victim of their environment, of various supernatural or spiritual forces, their unconscious, or a victim of their biology/genes. While an existential approach will recognize that all of these factors may influence a person, none of them render a person powerless or completely control them.

Ahhhh FREEDOM!

Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud


In his book Nobody’s Victim, Christopher J. McCullough explains, "In order to live your freedom, you must first accept reality. ‘These are the choices, and given those choices, which do I choose?’ Whether the option you select is pleasant or painful does not alter the fact that, given reality, this is your preference.
"To live your freedom, it is helpful to stop and ask yourself, ‘Why am I doing this?’ and then notice whether, given the options, you are choosing what you really want, or whether you want to choose something else.... Sometimes the exercise of freedom involves naming your poison -- all choices may lead to outcomes that are in some way painful. But the real pain is that of feeling powerless -- denying your freedom."



Just in the last few days...I have been working on cutting through the conditioning of my surroundings...trying to find the truth..and it is a journey I advise everyone who has not done so to take....get to the core of yourself ...learn who you really are ...step outside of the conditioning...because my friends...

With Knowing comes Freedom

[14 Chakras]

We are all on a journey here to Be More.

There are many who say the ego is necessary 'in this life' because it is 'your experience'.

I agree, it is currently our experience to be unconscious to the divine consciousneess that is within us. It is currently our experience to live fairly uneventful lives, then die and be recycled. It is currently our experience to be drawn here and there by our emotions, not always be healthy, get caught up in thoughts in our head.

It is currently our experience to suffer.

However, this is not reality.

It is our choice to continue to experience suffering and unconsciousness in this life.

But, this is a choice.

Those who choose to hold on to the ego, will continue to experience the fruits of the ego. Those who realize they are More, will be an open door for solutions that will raise up this planet and it's peoples.

You can choose to live in the story, and be of the story (be the ego), or you can choose to transcend the story, transcend the ego and be in the Now and be in the game, but not of the game.

This is our choice.

[lindabaker]

I'd like to know where I can find more information about this.

I was using the opening of a Lotus as an image to portray the unfolding of consciousness of many more people lately. If you see time/space and space/time as moving in all directions at once, the opening of the Lotus is a metaphor for expansion of beauty. For beauty, after all, is that place of balance which has been discussed on some of the posts in this thread. I see acts of generosity and kindness more often now. I hear vocabulary changing...the formerly judgmental people who are suddenly very, very interested in the material that most of us in Avalon have been pondering for quite awhile now. I say, better late than never. Just being around those committed to unconditional love can open the heart...let us all set an example in our outer as well as our inner dialog. If all the world is a stage, and we are merely players in it, let us remember, as players, that our character descriptions run deep. Whatever inner dialog our character creates, that inner dialog motivates and sets the intention of that character (player). Let our open hearts propel our thoughts and our words in an unfolding of the Lotus of the Light (Love and Beauty): that starting position, or point of reference, in the space/time locale is always of our own creation. Whew, sorry, guess I went on a little long here. :lmfao: LB

[Humble Janitor]

Something is definitely brewing but the way I see it now, time is nothing but an outdated mechanism. The days and nights are going by too fast to a point where they're pretty much useless. We might as well stop trying to plan our day using time because when you think of it, just imagine this scenario:

You are in the middle of a forest with no access to a computer, clock or even a cell phone with a clock. You feel calm, relaxed and you're like, "hey, why do I need to be in a hurry? Let's enjoy the scenery!" Now, imagine for a minute that you do this in any setting by learning how to turn off the "clock" that runs inside of your body? You relax, you take your time and you enjoy life more.

That's all time is. It's a mechanism for "timing" the "game" that we play with our everyday lives. Once we learn how to relax more, time can no longer master us. That's my view of other dimensions and I think we are currently in a dimension where time is no longer relevant and this is becoming clearer with each passing day. I don't see things, I don't hear things and I certainly don't expect anything drastic. Rather, I experience this dimensional shift every single day without realization.

Deja vu seems to happen more often and there are often "gaps" in time when something that should have taken more time actually takes LESS time and visa-versa.

[Lionhawk]

I was using the opening of a Lotus as an image to portray the unfolding of consciousness of many more people lately. If you see time/space and space/time as moving in all directions at once, the opening of the Lotus is a metaphor for expansion of beauty. For beauty, after all, is that place of balance which has been discussed on some of the posts in this thread. I see acts of generosity and kindness more often now. I hear vocabulary changing...the formerly judgmental people who are suddenly very, very interested in the material that most of us in Avalon have been pondering for quite awhile now. I say, better late than never. Just being around those committed to unconditional love can open the heart...let us all set an example in our outer as well as our inner dialog. If all the world is a stage, and we are merely players in it, let us remember, as players, that our character descriptions run deep. Whatever inner dialog our character creates, that inner dialog motivates and sets the intention of that character (player). Let our open hearts propel our thoughts and our words in an unfolding of the Lotus of the Light (Love and Beauty): that starting position, or point of reference, in the space/time locale is always of our own creation. Whew, sorry, guess I went on a little long here. :lmfao: LB

That was Beautiful LB! I am reading the energy and not just the words. You nailed it!

[Christo888]

"... Let's enjoy the scenery!" Now, imagine for a minute that you do this in any setting by learning how to turn off the "clock" that runs inside of your body? You relax, you take your time and you enjoy life more.

That's all time is. It's a mechanism for "timing" the "game" that we play with our everyday lives. Once we learn how to relax more, time can no longer master us. That's my view of other dimensions and I think we are currently in a dimension where time is no longer relevant and this is becoming clearer with each passing day. I don't see things, I don't hear things and I certainly don't expect anything drastic. Rather, I experience this dimensional shift every single day without realization.

Deja vu seems to happen more often and there are often "gaps" in time when something that should have taken more time actually takes LESS time and visa-versa.

Woohoo HJ... No more Birthdays!!!!! :thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

:lol3:

[Humble Janitor]

Woohoo HJ... No more Birthdays!!!!! :thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

:lol3:

I just had one 5 days ago.

[Christo888]

I just had one 5 days ago.

Just reverse it! Oh wait... Happy Birthday HJ... OK now go ahead and reverse it.:mfr_lol:

[bushycat]

I just had one, too. I've been reversing for years, but no visable results yet....
Heart is young, though, so fun is still in the view.
P.S. Happy Birthday, HJ.

:original::original::original::original::original: (Anchor shares),
Bushycat

[Noela]

Brook - I doubt if anyone gets to "attain unlimited knowing"

There's something to be said for the 'cloud of unknowing'.

[BROOK]

We are all on a journey here to Be More.

There are many who say the ego is necessary 'in this life' because it is 'your experience'.

I agree, it is currently our experience to be unconscious to the divine consciousneess that is within us. It is currently our experience to live fairly uneventful lives, then die and be recycled. It is currently our experience to be drawn here and there by our emotions, not always be healthy, get caught up in thoughts in our head.

It is currently our experience to suffer.

However, this is not reality.

It is our choice to continue to experience suffering and unconsciousness in this life.

But, this is a choice.

Those who choose to hold on to the ego, will continue to experience the fruits of the ego. Those who realize they are More, will be an open door for solutions that will raise up this planet and it's peoples.

You can choose to live in the story, and be of the story (be the ego), or you can choose to transcend the story, transcend the ego and be in the Now and be in the game, but not of the game.

This is our choice.

The EGO is necessary in this 3D...but the goal is not to let it rule you...you are you...with or without it.

This is as real as it get :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

Brook - I doubt if anyone gets to "attain unlimited knowing"

There's something to be said for the 'cloud of unknowing'.

Why do you doubt that? Let me share something else...something else I wrote several months back


"The universe is so vast and we are so small, and in the blink of an eye all is gone, I guess when it comes down to it we really have no control over anything..."


Is this a true statement? I think not...we are much larger then we even realized....
We are born of the all that is..the great I AM..we are infinite beings..weather you choose to believe this or not, it is so.

We are much larger that anything imaginable...we are light...we are energy....we are part of everything around us. We came here to create everything we can imagine. If we imagine small, then we create small. If we imagine big then we create big.

Quantum physics, sacred geometry, Masaru Emoto: messages from water...have shown you ...you are very large indeed. We Have power to create infinite

So where have we gotten the idea that we are small, and have no control?

could it be Religion?

Some religion has taught us that if we do wrong..we will go to hell.

Some teach that we reincarnate..to experience...then live out past karma...of things we have experienced.

Some teach of "rites" and ritual...ridged behavior

Most religions have a prophet...who have a knowing of the I AM..the Dhamma...the Tao, The Lord of all Lords.

But the writings...and the structure...the dogma...the social structure especially have been used to control...some even through political advancement...some through creating boarders..and where do you draw the line and say this is the TRUTH

How many religious institutions have become fat and rich from the FAITH of the masses. How many hold the secrets and choose not to let you KNOW.

The delima...

What to believe...most of these Prophets if not all..were in touch with the I AM...choosing one prophet..Jesus Christ said....

"He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything "

there is a message from every great prophet from the I AM...and it says....KNOWING....unlimited knowing....know you are too the sons and daughters of GOD...know you can be that knowing...and believe that life is eternal..that you are infinite beings.

Know that you have the power to create..to expand..to be a universe if you so choose...to experience unconditional love of all that is.

An know that in the coming years the vale of the 3D is lifting...and you will shed the ego self..and it will be the battle of Armageddon to shed that ego...the Antichrist!
Know you will finally see the truth these religions and the PTB did not want you to see...that you have the power to be immortal..and free. The power of Light everlasting...and create Heaven on Earth...through what? KNOWING of the creator of all that IS

KNOW that it is inside YOU..and everything around you


Don't choose to "seek knowing" don't choose to say "I hope to know more"...or "I seek more knowing"...for the law of attraction kicks in and you will be forever "wanting", and "seeking"....just simply say to your self one very simple thing and it will reveal itself..."I KNOW"
Say it over and over..many times a day...you'll see
Shed the ego..not the life experience..for from that comes experience...but do not be driven by the ego..the Antichrist, anymore....be that of Knowing.

For with KNOWING comes FREEDOM....are you ready to take that step?

Are you ready to become so large as a star?



At the risk of being off topic...


Turn the clock to Zero,
Start a Brand New Day

YouTube - Sting - Brand New Day

[BROOK]

I will add

If you choose not to KNOW...then you deny yourself FREEDOM

Knowing Freedom

To know freedom..one must understand bondage. Because how active will you be coming from complacency?....Sitting in front of your computer..looking for the next new best thread. This is not to say you are not trying to do your part...however

Have you lost your home due to the economy? Lost your job?

Do you have it in you to stand up and say "I have had enough of the tyranny"?

With Freedom comes responsibility;

Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud

Are you waiting for the next best man, or political figure to come along and make another dead promise?

This man was not a political figure...he made himself one
http://rainandtherhinoceros.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/martin-luther-king-jr-photo-1.jpg
He took responsibility...and told the truth.
He worked hard to bring justice and truth...and paid with his life.

Now here is a twist....America made him the national hero for "Americas great struggle for racial equality"
They made him a political figure..however..toward the end of his struggle did you know
he was opposed to the republican and the democratic parties?
did you know he spoke out against capitalism?
then he was shot....hmmm...an America hero? Or just a hero of truth and knowing...


He did not let fear of the PTB get in the way...he marched to raise social consciousness ,
So everybody would know of the injustice that disturbed his whole race.

He took responsibility to know freedom

Could your ego be in fear of judgement...to tell the truth..from knowing..not conspiracy but the truth...
and raise social consciousness?

[Lionhawk]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! This Brook Girl has it going on!!!!!!!!!!!!! More! More! More! The power of your message is jumping off the screen and my hair is standing up as it is good to hear someone walking the truth!!!!

A lot of this stuff is diluted, corrupt, and I could go on and on. We have the right to KNOW!
I have tried to state the differences with this knowing and believing as passed down to me from the hard headed lessons I had to learn. But I broke those chains of the Believing in order to do that. :wall:

Another thing that gets me now is that a lot of the who's I have run into won't look at the whole picture. They refuse to see all sides of it. They only pick the side that make them feel, key word feel, feel warm and fuzzy. Many claim to just transcend the whole thing but haven't been able to do that because they have not embraced their inner knowing. They only try to embrace the parts that make them feel all lovey dovey. Those are limitations of the entirety of all that you are, and if you don't face all sides of who you are, how do you expect to really burst forth in all of your glory? Know thyself. All of thy self. If you don't see love as a polarity, then you might want to consider that it has an opposite polarity. If love didn't have that opposite, then love would not exist. How can you have one without the other? Your feelings act out of polarity differences one way or the other.

What makes us so unique on top of all that is that of our 12 blocks of DNA. That is 12th dimensional. Which gives a unique advantage in terms of being compared to other races and civilizations. Where they may be limited with 10 blocks and can only ascend as high as the 10th dimension. And we let them control us because of why? Out of sheer ignorance. That is also a choice. Now if that don't make some people mad? It should make everyone mad as HELL! :wall:

It made me mad! It made me mad when I discovered how we have been violated through the dumbing down process. You have the right to know! You have the right to know yourself. How one does that is not by researching outside of themselves. The real search is within yourself. What the beauty of that is, is your inner self won't lie to you. It is alright to be aware of your surroundings and all the things you engage in. But it is very much separate as to who you really are. The power of self discovery is indeed an empowering thing. By believing, you become detached from your inner self and you end up playing a fool's game. If knowledge is at one single point and only the foolish multiply that, what do you think that means? All knowledge is available to you in the template of one. Anything you want to know anything about can be accessed in all of the is-ness. You don't even have to read about it because that connection to the is-ness, will let you experience it. For example, you can literally experience some one else who has had an experience, without you even experiencing that experience in your own life. The tools are there too! They are available when you require them to be available. You don't even have to ask. It just happens. It starts with simple meditation. Everyone can do that. Expand it and you will discover more. Go at your own speed and with practice like with anything else, it will become second nature. As you progress, you will find deeper knowing. Clear the stuff away as you go. Whatever that takes. Do it with a friend so you can compare notes. It can be also a wonderful experience to do with the one your with. :thumb_yello:

Polarity is another thing that people want to refuse or accept. Energy doesn't flow, doesn't move, without polarity. When you do any kind of energy work you are always dealing with polarities. Polarity is built into the construct of all that is. So when you do anything that involves movement, what ever it is, it can not move without polarity. That issue has been manipulated to keep you dumb downed. Prove it wrong. If something isn't moving it is because there is no polarity to move it. In which case it would not exist. We have to reverse engineer what lies we have been told. Likes attract likes and opposites repel. The opposites don't attract. Only only in a song. Polarity makes this work as everything exists is going from point A to point B. Balance is about just that. Balancing the polarities in your life. If you experience a lot of highs, you will also experience the lows because balance seeks itself out. You can't stay high all the time or low all the time. One day you're in a good mood and a few days later you are not in a good mood. It is very simple to see this at work. The higher you go the lower you will also go. Like mood swings. The key is to control the polarity swings to where you feel good but not overly excited and when you feel bad, it won't be as bad. This is where all of your inner aspects play out. Like the ego that everyone seems to want to erase. If you control your ego and keep it to a minimal, things don't get out of control. Look around you and you can see this principle at work if you can't see it in the mirror of self. So if you ignore the polarities then you are ignoring a part of you that contains those polarities and you won't be able to move in the direction that you desire. That is a sample of self ignorance. To transcend one must take those polarities, such as love and hate, and neutralized them to create resonance. An Angelic example is like the marriage of the male and the female polarities within you to where they meld and become one. So just know that you won't be able to transcend until you do this work. Take a course on Electronic principles to acquaint yourself with the terms and basic principle as to electricity and how it works. We are electric and those basics will apply.

We are already ASCENDED BEINGS. Wouldn't you like to meet who you are. Dig within, and you may end up using a big shovel just to remove all the second hand information that you have buried yourself under. Shed that stuff. Get it out of your way. The freedom you seek is within you. Get rid of the balls and chains that are weighing you down. Why keep those attachments when they do not serve your highest good. Isn't that what we are after? Define what you want. Then do what it takes to attain it. If you want to be enslaved, then don't even bother looking within. Stay brainwashed if that is what you choose. But when the manure hits the fan, don't decide in the last second of your chosen path to change your mind and direction, because it will already be to late. There is a saying that if you think you now need a body guard, it is already to late.

How many times have I gone through persecution of what I have revealed, and let's say a person who has been persecuting me of what I have experienced, like a ghost in my room that I have seen? I tell the story and I'm now getting it from all directions from a person.Then the following days ahead, this same person experiences a ghost. Well guess what, he freaks out and who does he call? Me. Now I am going to be tested on my compassion. Because now, my ego steps in and says screw this guy. Talk about balancing stuff like that. The fact is I didn't come here to lie, deceive, to be arrogant, or any other lower accusations that humans do or say. My time is getting shorter and all I am trying to do is get the message out there to reverse engineer yourself. All this comes from compassion. That is of the heart. Not the ego.

Brook said it straight up and it is music to my ears to hear some else getting it. Don't kid yourself as I also know others who have gotten it and contribute their inner gifts and talents because they know themselves. They also do it freely without duality hang ups like conditions. Take the risk and risk it all on yourself. Make that commitment to know the truth of who you are and you will be richly rewarded for doing so.

Great posting Brook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:tease:

[mntruthseeker]

Happy Belated HJ

[BROOK]

Great posting Brook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:tease:

Thanks Lionhawk :blush-anim-cl:

[BROOK]

For just a little reminder....knowing is key....I leave you with a video...
however..you have to WATCH it.....For the Love of God...try to remember :wub2:

YouTube - Steve Vai - For The Love Of God

[Christo888]

Brook hope you don't mind but the song and video was so bad ass I had to be a temporary repeater...:lol3:

YouTube - Sting - Brand New Day

(Dangit they turned off the embedding.)

[Barcarolle]

The Avalon Quality has stepped up many notches this week, alot of excellent information been peeled out with some quality new posters ....... keep up the good work :)

Lionhawk said - "What makes us so unique on top of all that is that of our 12 blocks of DNA. That is 12th dimensional. Which gives a unique advantage in terms of being compared to other races and civilizations. Where they may be limited with 10 blocks and can only ascend as high as the 10th dimension."

Yes 100% correct, we have been purposely oppressed to prevent us from knowing our true potential and this information is verified by contacted Anna Hayes who mentioned that same information.

Namaste'

[BROOK]

Brook hope you don't mind but the song and video was so bad ass I had to be a temporary repeater...:lol3:

YouTube - Sting - Brand New Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQQax5AofV8)

(Dangit they turned off the embedding.)

Quite alright...that is a great video :thumb_yello:

[tone3jaguar]

Update, 10/2/09

883 Craft Parked around / near Earth

55 Species

Looks like there are still some arriving daily. I will keep checking it and see when it levels off to a static number.

[FIIISH]

Tone3jaguar,

I want to thank you for starting this thread and maintaining it
despite some of the critical comments you have received.

I have found many of your posts to be informative, insightful,
and thought provoking.

Sincerely,

FIIISH

[Christo888]

Update, 10/2/09

883 Craft Parked around / near Earth

55 Species

Looks like there are still some arriving daily. I will keep checking it and see when it levels off to a static number.

T3J, just thought of something... are you able to put together a list or chart with dates of the number of ships, and species?

Might be an interesting flow chart of info. to ponder.

[tone3jaguar]

Tone3jaguar,

I want to thank you for starting this thread and maintaining it
despite some of the critical comments you have received.

I have found many of your posts to be informative, insightful,
and thought provoking.

Sincerely,

FIIISH

Your welcome

[tone3jaguar]

T3J, just thought of something... are you able to put together a list or chart with dates of the number of ships, and species?

Might be an interesting flow chart of info. to ponder.

That would take a lot of time and I would need an objective reason for doing so. If there is one that is helpful to all those on the planet then I could give it a shot. However, if it is just for the curiosity of the few then it would take to much time.

[TheObserver]

Update, 10/2/09

883 Craft Parked around / near Earth

55 Species

Looks like there are still some arriving daily. I will keep checking it and see when it levels off to a static number.

You'd think at least one of those 883 craft would be detected by the Hubble telescope! :naughty:

[Christo888]

That would take a lot of time and I would need an objective reason for doing so. If there is one that is helpful to all those on the planet then I could give it a shot. However, if it is just for the curiosity of the few then it would take to much time.

Hmmm, why the hesitation? Actually it is very simple!

Date that you posted your perception of ships and species!
Repeat!

????? Give me an example of what you consider an objective reason so I can give you an objective reason?

[14 Chakras]

Happy belated B Days Bday peoples :groupwave:

The EGO is necessary in this 3D...but ...you are you...with or without it.


Good comment, I agree the ego is necessary if we wish to keep our consciousness in the 3D realm.

And as said above, "you are you with or without it", we are "I" with or without the ego, meaning, when we overcome the ego, we don't cease to exist. We keep the "I" and simply move beyond the limitations we apparently face here in 3D, we move beyond the story into the Now where no story has room to exist, because all there is is transcending ourselves / becoming more in the Now.

It is my personal goal to raise my consciousness beyond the illusions and limitations of the 3D Realm while remaining here in physical form. I seek the truth that will set me free, the real truth and nothing but the truth, that is well beyond the illusions we have going on here in the collective consciousness of 3D. I am not operating under the traditional religious belief that there is a separation between matter and the spiritual and therefore we have to 'die' to go to heaven, I believe this is a false belief.

I seek to prove heaven is here Now when we choose to accept that reality, we are spiritual beings having a material experience, and this material realm is made of spirit, of consciousness, as is all of creation.

As the great masters have said, we can be in the world but not of it. We can be in the consciousness of the ascended realm, while being in the world here in 3D. This is my goal. I hope it is many others, because I believe it is enlightened beings that are needed at this time, in large part to raise up the collective consciousness itself.

We can't keep trying to solve these major issues we are facing from the same level of consciousness that created them in the first place. If we wish to raise the collective consciousness into a golden age, I suggest it will take a critical mass of people to move beyond 3d, beyond 4d, beyond 5d, beyond 6d, and into the enlightened consciousness where it is clear that all life is One.

When we do so, our victory will be won :), both personally and for planet earth.

This is the path I choose, the path where in reality, there are no limitations.

Espavo.

[FIIISH]

Hmmm, why the hesitation? Actually it is very simple!

Couldn't one of us scan this thread and compile the information?
(I am not volunteering, just making a point)

[Tango]

Scan it... So, you can carry it back to WHO....? For What Reason...?

Watching, every move...


Tango



Couldn't one of us scan this thread and compile the information?
(I am not volunteering, just making a point)

[solent]

LionHawk.(and everyone interested) Your recent post has prompted me to make a post I've been putting off for several weeks now, but since you've opened the can, I may as well pull some worms out of it and play with them a bit.

I'm seeing the bifurcation you've pointed to, but see it from a different angle (naturally :lol3:)
...



Wow :naughty: don't think you should have let the cat out of the bag like that :lmao: spot on, great post.

I haven't read any further than this yet, so be back soon :original:

[tone3jaguar]

Hmmm, why the hesitation? Actually it is very simple!

Date that you posted your perception of ships and species!
Repeat!

????? Give me an example of what you consider an objective reason so I can give you an objective reason?


Oh, I thought that you wanted me to identify each species, their numbers, which ships they had and so on. I have posted all of the data I have come up with on this in this thread. There are only a hand full of posts and they should not be that hard to find.

By objective reason I mean that I need to have a good reason to put extra work in like that. If the information you are talking about is the stuff I have posted in this thread then it would not be that big of a deal. I thought you where talking about hours and hours of mind numbing dowsing.

[tone3jaguar]

You'd think at least one of those 883 craft would be detected by the Hubble telescope! :naughty:

The hubble is just a billion dollar digital camera with a kick ass lens. I do not remember seeing hubble take any pics of stuff around the Earth. Plus NASA runs hubble. If they did take a pic of some ships with it then they would just supress them like they have with all of the other evidence they have found. This would include the 40 missing rolls of film from the Apollo missions. Tell me you are not in the "if it is real then I would have seen it" paradigm.

This picture is far from conclusive, but it is interesting and falls right in line with what you are asking for.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/nightufo002.jpg

[solent]

So, I'm asking myself how they are parked.....

Are they stationary over locations of earth, meaning they are keeping a fixed ref. point to, and rotating with earth?

Are they stationary above earth to a fixed position from earths pole, keeping a fixed position in space but earth is rotating beneath them?

Maybe they are just flying around willy nilly?

:original:

I'm just wondering if any are parked above me is all... :thumb_yello: :welcomeani:

[tone3jaguar]

So, I'm asking myself how they are parked.....

Are they stationary over locations of earth, meaning they are keeping a fixed ref. point to, and rotating with earth?

Are they stationary above earth to a fixed position from earths pole, keeping a fixed position in space but earth is rotating beneath them?

Maybe they are just flying around willy nilly?

:original:

I'm just wondering if any are parked above me is all... :thumb_yello: :welcomeani:



They are parked in a parallel dimension (the 4th dimension). They travel by moving through this parallel higher dimenison. Then when they choose to they materialize. Since their craft have anti gravity and dimensional shifting capabilities they do not need to use gravity to stay around the planet like a conventional space craft.

Where exactly? I am not sure exactly where they are. I know that some of them are in the atmosphere, some of them are just outside the atmosphere, and some of them are a little further out than that. They are probably forming a grid pattern around the Earth. Why? I do not know, all I can tell you is what my higher self is showing me. I do not think that anyone not on one of the ships has a need to know right now. We will see.

[BROOK]

I do not think that anyone not on one of the ships has a need to know right now. We will see.

Well..I don't think that is right....I have a need to know...and I believe we all have a right to know...the question is are we ready for the answer?

[BROOK]

If indeed it is real..and there are that many ships positioned around the earth..well guess what...they are preparing for battle.
Plane and simple..there is no other reason not to announce themselves...if it was for some kind of energy..they would be glad to let us know that.....but the simple fact is they are either doing one of two things...either preparing to battle...or preparing to protect.

And maybe they are waiting for us to WAKE UP :naughty:

[TheObserver]

I'm not saying i personally have to eyewitness anything. I am open minded generally but can be skeptical of specific details. I am also a Gemini and see both sides of things so i can never be a 'true believer' of anything.

Forget Hubble, perhaps i should say if these are sizable physical objects gathered round the planet like cars at the drive-in movie (pass the popcorn please!) some earthbound observer, perhaps an amature astronomer has to see them at some point.

P.S.: i see while i was typing you answered someone else that they are in the 4D realm so that also changes the picture quite a bit!

[Malletzky]

If indeed it is real..and there are that many ships positioned around the earth..well guess what...they are preparing for battle.
Plane and simple..there is no other reason not to announce themselves...if it was for some kind of energy..they would be glad to let us know that.....but the simple fact is they are either doing one of two things...either preparing to battle...or preparing to protect.

And maybe they are waiting for us to WAKE UP :naughty:


I don't believe they need to prepare for any battle...at least not with us...why should they...we're harmful...no need to prepare for any battle with an "enemy" which technology is far behind that the one "they" posess...not to mention their other higner psychic abilities...we're just too harmful...FOR NOW !!!

with :wub2: and respect
malletzky

[BROOK]

I don't believe they need to prepare for any battle...at least not with us...why should they...we're harmful...no need to prepare for any battle with an "enemy" which technology is far behind that the one "they" posess...not to mention their other higner psychic abilities...we're just too harmful...FOR NOW !!!

with :wub2: and respect
malletzky

Maybe there is a war out there ...and we ...our planet...are the prize..and they are protecting us? Protecting the planet?

Or better yet...protecting us from ourselves?

[Swanny]

If they are out there it seems they are rubbish at hiding as T3J says he knows they are there :original:
Surely if they were that good they wouldn't be found and if they were found they would know about it.

[tone3jaguar]

If indeed it is real..and there are that many ships positioned around the earth..well guess what...they are preparing for battle.
Plane and simple..there is no other reason not to announce themselves...if it was for some kind of energy..they would be glad to let us know that.....but the simple fact is they are either doing one of two things...either preparing to battle...or preparing to protect.

And maybe they are waiting for us to WAKE UP :naughty:


Perhaps it is not to protect or to battle. Perhaps they intend to prevent something from happening. Multiple sources both credible and not so credible have come forward and said that the plan was to create a fake enemy from space with a false flag invasion staged with our own secret craft.

I am not saying that the craft around the earth are our craft. In fact I specifically asked for the numbers of ET craft. However, if the black government where actually about to follow through with the plan that even Werner Von Braun said they would of the false flag invasion, then this would be a valid reason for showing up in huge numbers and surrounding the atmosphere of Earth.

After what I have learned from various people about the vastness of the size of the fleet of our ARV's (alien reproduction vehicles), and seeing as how Von Braun also stated that the terrorist threat would be created way before it actually was. This begins to take another false enemy out of the realm of paranoia and sci fi and into the world of reality and actuality.

The PTB would not even have to have a world wide false attack. They could just attack a few key high profile cities and have the media make it look like it was happening everywhere. Then all of the sudden they would have an excuse to have all of the countries of the world unite under one military state unified against a false threat from outer space.

This is what Majestic has been building up to for all of these years. Right after they came up with the idea and no one had any televisions they did a test run of this exact scenario. Orson Wells, War of the Worlds, ringing any bells? With the ETs having the compassion for our well being and development as a society in their best interest and the in the best interest of the Galaxy, do you really think that they would let anyone get away with this?

The PTB want to turn all ET races into the next Alkiada. You think the ETs are OK with that and are just going go along with it? I don't think so. The black government is to stupid to see that they are about to induce the complete opposite outcome that they are going for. It is going to be f--king glorious when they have pie in the face and we all finally know the truth about our friendly galactic neighborhood.

[tone3jaguar]

If they are out there it seems they are rubbish at hiding as T3J says he knows they are there :original:
Surely if they were that good they wouldn't be found and if they were found they would know about it.

It is easy to hide when you are in a craft that can move into a parallel reality just by sitting in the drivers seat and thinking about it. Remember, these ET races are ascended beings. They are by their nature 4th dimensional and we are 3rd dimensional. They can simply choose to be shifted to a frequency that is out side of the range any non-secret detection capabilities. The black government probably knows they are there. However, they are so cocky about things they will probably try to go for the hail marry any way.

[Christo888]

Strange question T3J... who came up with the idea of alien invasion so many years ago that they actually thought they could pull it off so far into the future... I mean who actually sat in a boardroom and brainstormed all the what-ifs in order to hone the culture of the planet in order to do such a thing.

What a dumb question huh!:lol3:

I think if I were in the room at the time I would be laughing so hard I'd be speechless... because no one would ever figure out the bizarreness of the reality of actually going through with such an idea.:shocked:

And so here we are... :roll1::roll1::roll1:

:mfr_omg:

[tone3jaguar]

Strange question T3J... who came up with the idea of alien invasion so many years ago that they actually thought they could pull it off so far into the future... I mean who actually sat in a boardroom and brainstormed all the what-ifs in order to hone the culture of the planet in order to do such a thing.

What a dumb question huh!:lol3:

I think if I were in the room at the time I would be laughing so hard I'd be speechless... because no one would ever figure out the bizarreness of the reality of actually going through with such an idea.:shocked:

And so here we are... :roll1::roll1::roll1:

:mfr_omg:



I have no clue because I was not there. However, Von Braun said on his death bed that first they would create the terrorist enemy, then they would create the enemy from outer space. Lets not forget that Von Braun was a Nazi scientists and the Nazis had anti gravity at the end of the war and prototypes of saucers to go along with it. That was 60 years ago well before he said this.

Who? Majestic 12 is not a fictional invention. They are real and have been running the show for over a half a century. If you laugh at them to their faces they would probably kill you. I think that it is safe to say that you can throw logical thinking out when it comes to a group like this. Greed and lust for power gets people thinking a little crooked.

[BROOK]

I have no clue because I was not there. However, Von Braun said on his death bed that first they would create the terrorist enemy, then they would create the enemy from outer space. Lets not forget that Von Braun was a Nazi scientists and the Nazis had anti gravity at the end of the war and prototypes of saucers to go along with it. That was 60 years ago well before he said this.

Who? Majestic 12 is not a fictional invention. They are real and have been running the show for over a half a century. If you laugh at them to their faces they would probably kill you. I think that it is safe to say that you can throw logical thinking out when it comes to a group like this. Greed and lust for power gets people thinking a little crooked.


Well when you look at the billions of dollars missing..and the race for technology....the secrets..and where they are heading...you have to think their up to something

[Reader]

"Alkiada" What planet are they from?

[Stargazer1965]

Well when you look at the billions of dollars missing..and the race for technology....the secrets..and where they are heading...you have to think their up to something

I think we're up to Trillions missing.....:nono:

[Fredkc]

Strange question T3J... who came up with the idea of alien invasion so many years ago that they actually thought they could pull it off so far into the future... I mean who actually sat in a boardroom and brainstormed all the what-ifs in order to hone the culture of the planet in order to do such a thing.

What a dumb question huh!:lol3:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/art742.html

As practically a deathbed speech, Wernher Von Braun educated me about those concepts and who the players were in this game. He gave me the responsibility, since he was dying, of continuing this effort to prevent the weaponization of outer space. When Wernher Von Braun was dying of cancer, he asked me to be his spokesperson, to appear on occasions when he was too ill to speak. I did this.

What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence that he said to me over and over again during the approximately four years that I had the opportunity to work with him. He said the strategy that was being used to educate the public and decision makers was to use scare tactics That was how we identify an enemy.

The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. We were told that they had "killer satellites". We were told that they were coming to get us and control us-that they were "Commies."

Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.
The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it.

Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.

And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. "And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie."

I think I was too naive at that time to know the seriousness of the nature of the spin that was being put on the system. And now, the pieces are starting to fall into place. We are building a space-based weapons system on a premise that is a lie, a spin. Wernher Von Braun was trying to hint that to me back in the early 70's and right up until the moment when he died in 1977.

What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place. He didn't mention a timeline but he said that it was going to be speeding up faster than anybody could possibly imagine. That the effort to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.
Carol Rosin

[Christo888]

"Alkiada" What planet are they from?

:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol:

[viking]

Hi Tone3 and all ... just found this...what do you think?

Is there a connection?

YouTube - First Contact on December 25, 2009

ps someone let Swanny know we have another date for him!!! :naughty:

viking

[eleni]

Dillusional- wow they can't even spell properly!! LOL.....

[solent]

So Blossom has changed her name to Domin yong now? :insane: :sorry:

[Swanny]

Thanks Viking but the date I believe in the galactic federation of light is the day I sign myself into the loony bin :tease:
The GFL is the biggest joke on the net :lmao:

When they don't show I wonder what the excuse will be this time :naughty:

[Fredkc]

Ok, having watched the vid, I am dangerously close to being confused here.

There is a New World Order, alien supported, which purports to save the world, while actually enslaving it; but, take heart!

All we have to do is wait till we get desperate enough and then, while we sit here, stuck in our nest, beaks open...

There is a New World Order, alien supported, which purports to save the world! And they're bringing Obamacare! Please disregard that it is coming in September, and this is October. (Yeah I know.. timing is tricky stuff)

Lord forgive a cynic but... t'would take all day to type out my questions.

Is there a case for "Tens of thousands of lightships, appearing in the sky" not causing a bit of "tension & fear"?

Is there a Galactic Federation-Lite ? One without Obamacare? Because "Managed Death" really doesn't interest me.

Fred
(Who just isn't sure about having enlightenment "installed")

[TheObserver]

Fred, Vee Hahve Vays of MAKING you Enlightened. BWAHAHAHA :mfr_lol:

[Reader]

ROLFMAO!!!!:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol:

[tone3jaguar]

Well, as I said earlier in this thread. I do not think that it is wise to be making predictions about the when and where of such a thing taking place. All I can report on is the now and give possible reasons for the now.

I can tell you that right now there are some parallel timelines where they have already shown up. There are some parallel timelines where they are showing up right now. There are some parallel timelines where they will show up in the future, and there are some where they never show up. Choose your timeline, the future is all probabilities.

Other than that, the video seemed a little sensationalized. What is up with the background music? Sounds like horror movie music.

[Lionhawk]

That little video was bogus.

The date will be set by the darkside. It will be the day when the dark start playing out their cards as to their plans. The GF will react to that and not Christmas. Also another possibility maybe what Gaia is struggling with. But you can count on the darkside being the culprits interfering with Gaia's balancing efforts. It's like a snow storm that is on it's way. Can you hear the calmness before that storm's arrival?

I do think that this month is going to be the month when all of this stuff starts coming to a head.

All the clearing that I have done since March has my head spinning. My instincts are on alert. I can't sleep as in normal. I'm not the only one and in away I can't wait. The anticipation after all these years is finally here. We are in it now. I can sense it. We are in the calm before the storm. Listen. Get quiet and listen. Listen within. Even if you can't hear anything, isn't that still a sound? A sound of silence. Quietness. I have been hearing that sound of silence for almost 2 months now. Anyone else? It's a tough crowd out there. This week, I hope to achieve closure on my property, bank account, and the last minute details as that is what has brought me to this point. Everything will be placed into storage as of tomorrow afternoon. So you won't hear from me for the greater part of the day. That's a blessing I bet! hahahaha I am merely doing what I have been guided to do. I can't explain it any better than that. So for you people out there that have been sleeping like Einstein in his day, power napping around the clock and getting to the point where you are only concerned that it is either light or dark out, get ready! :tongue2:

Namaste'

[FIIISH]

Wouldn't it be nice to know one way or another how things
are going to go and when they will occur?

What to do?

I have already streamlined my life. Now what? In that regard,
it would be very gratifying if something happened because then I could
say "AHA! I WAS right." But this is bigger than me.

Time will tell.

[Swanny]

Ok, having watched the vid, I am dangerously close to being confused here.

There is a New World Order, alien supported, which purports to save the world, while actually enslaving it; but, take heart!

All we have to do is wait till we get desperate enough and then, while we sit here, stuck in our nest, beaks open...

There is a New World Order, alien supported, which purports to save the world! And they're bringing Obamacare! Please disregard that it is coming in September, and this is October. (Yeah I know.. timing is tricky stuff)

Lord forgive a cynic but... t'would take all day to type out my questions.

Is there a case for "Tens of thousands of lightships, appearing in the sky" not causing a bit of "tension & fear"?

Is there a Galactic Federation-Lite ? One without Obamacare? Because "Managed Death" really doesn't interest me.

Fred
(Who just isn't sure about having enlightenment "installed")

I think a very large pinch of salt is required when reading this thread :wink2:

[Anchor]

Hi Tone3 and all ... just found this...what do you think?

Is there a connection?

....


ps someone let Swanny know we have another date for him!!! :naughty:

viking

I dont like those aliens they cant spell very well.

Did you read the youtube comment accompanying that video - its funny.

The Galactic Fed told me through, like, mind control, when the frig they were gonna show. So the date is official, on December 25, 2009, The Galactic Federation of Light will reveal themselves. In November, Obama will do the UFO disclosure thing.

:naughty:

A..

[Reader]

While maybe lacking in substance, this thread is at least entertaining.

My advice is hold on to your seat, it's gonna be a wild ride!

[tone3jaguar]

Update 10/6/09

883 Craft

55 Species

I had not yet asked if there where also some ships that where parked inside of larger ships. I asked what the total number of craft are including the vessels parked inside of "mother ships".

Total number of craft including those parked in the Mother Ships (Space Based UFO carriers) = 4,423

Total number of mother ships (mother ship is classified as any ship that carries smaller craft inside of it) = 883

So I had not been making the question specific enough. I was only asking how many craft where parked around the Earth. I had failed to ask how many craft where parked inside of those parked around the earth.

Then If I ask the question of how many feet across is the smallest mother ship = 4,715 ft.

Then if I ask the question of how many miles across is the largest mother ship = 24.3 mi.

So, my bad on not being specific enough with the questions. :)