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FIIISH
10-02-2009, 05:32 PM
I am starting this thread with the intent of a healthy exchange
and discussion of some of the fears that we have in the hope
that doing so will lessen their effect on our energy.

Rather than a fear-fest, I am suggesting a candid, open
exchange of our individual fears about what we are experiencing
and where we are going. A logical progression of this discussion
could also include what hopes we are holding onto.

I think we will find that many of us have the same fears and
feel less alone.

I'll start.

I fear:

That things will just keep getting worse

That the ascension process and 2012 will be anti-climactic and we won't see any fundamental, lasting change

That the current game will stick around for a long time to come, and I will be left holding the bag

That I will decide to reinvest in this game, and have it all go to pot anyway

That I will be trapped into yet another cycle of reincarnation, and won't be allowed to 'go home'

That I won't be where I am supposed to be when and if things really start happening

That I have already missed the boat, and am now staring at a dead end

That it is too little, too late

That none of this will ever be explained or make sense-my questions remaining unanswered


I think it's worth nothing that there will come a time and place where I will
be able to look at all of the things I was afraid of, and just laugh..... :lmao:

Now, what are you afraid of?

burgundia
10-02-2009, 05:38 PM
I am afraid of people who are afraid....

FIIISH
10-02-2009, 05:41 PM
I am afraid of people who are afraid....

:wink2:

Good, that is a start. What else?

feardia
10-02-2009, 05:43 PM
I am afraid of nothing.

FIIISH
10-02-2009, 05:50 PM
I am afraid of nothing.


Then you, my friend, in my opinion and experience, are a rare and exceptional individual.

I believe that fear is normal in the face of challenging and daunting
circumstances. How you react to that fear, is key.

w0rm
10-02-2009, 06:11 PM
Strangely enough, I don't fear anything that you have listed. But maybe that's because I have my head in the sand!

My fears are very personal, and are things I'm trying desperately to overcome in order to lead a happy life.

I fear people, I find it hard to trust, I fear their judgements. This has forced me to live a rather uneventful life thus far.
My girlfriend is always asking to go places, do things and I constantly make excuses not to. I know the reason why - I'm scared!

I don't know what has happened to cause this, I've never been a particularly outgoing individual but I've always had friends, a supportive family, etc.

However, I can feel a change coming on and I'm about to embrace it with open arms.

I am starting this thread with the intent of a healthy exchange
and discussion of some of the fears that we have in the hope
that doing so will lessen their effect on our energy.

Rather than a fear-fest, I am suggesting a candid, open
exchange of our individual fears about what we are experiencing
and where we are going. A logical progression of this discussion
could also include what hopes we are holding onto.

I think we will find that many of us have the same fears and
feel less alone.

I'll start.

I fear:

That things will just keep getting worse

That the ascension process and 2012 will be anti-climactic and we won't see any fundamental, lasting change

That the current game will stick around for a long time to come, and I will be left holding the bag

That I will decide to reinvest in this game, and have it all go to pot anyway

That I will be trapped into yet another cycle of reincarnation, and won't be allowed to 'go home'

That I won't be where I am supposed to be when and if things really start happening

That I have already missed the boat, and am now staring at a dead end

That it is too little, too late

That none of this will ever be explained or make sense-my questions remaining unanswered


I think it's worth nothing that there will come a time and place where I will
be able to look at all of the things I was afraid of, and just laugh..... :lmao:

Now, what are you afraid of?

rhythm
10-02-2009, 06:18 PM
FEAR IS AN ILLUSION (seperation )


it can not thrive


if the heart is open to love and


surrender to the all that is ....trust...


feal the fear and do it enyway


push thru ..test it for yourself


there is no monster :nono:...

no basement .. rise above it :wink2:

Tango
10-02-2009, 06:18 PM
I Got the Music in me....


YouTube - I've got the music in me



" Ain't Got NO Trouble In My LIFE..." " I'm Never Frightened, I'm Never Worried "

" I Heat Up, I Cool Down..." " I Got words, in My head, So I say them "

" I don't let lying get me down "" Gonna take it, the way that I found it "

" I Feel Funky, I FEEL Good... Gotta tell Ya, I'm in the Neighborhood "

" Gonna fly like a Bird on the Wing, Hold on to me hand,Honey, Sing Sing Sing"

Tango

FIIISH
10-02-2009, 06:46 PM
Tango,

Your take on things is never dull.

Rythym,

You are correct. Working on rising above. In the meantime,
I find that acknowledging the fear is often the first step
on the path to higher ground.

w0RM,

I fear people, I find it hard to trust

I can relate to this. I used to be a very outgoing person, despite
an intrinsic shyness and sensitivity. After a period of prolonged
illness during which I have withdrawn from just about everything,
I am starting to put myself out there again. And boy can it be
intimidating! But there are many rewards. And I intend to continue
this journey of rediscovery of my former self and the person I am today!

Swanny
10-02-2009, 06:48 PM
I'm not afraid of anything. Some things I don't like but that's different :original:
Whatever comes my way I will deal with it.

6. That I won't be where I am supposed to be when and if things really start happening
Impossible, you will be exactly where you are supposed to be

burgundia
10-02-2009, 07:07 PM
Someone, go get a mod Now...

good idea...

burgundia
10-02-2009, 08:41 PM
i forgot to inform the author of the thread that I am also afraid of Virginia Woolf.....:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Jacqui D
10-02-2009, 08:49 PM
I have no fear of anything, but sometimes i worry, when i have learnt not to worry i will be where i want to be.
Have i done this right, did i do that right.
But fearing no!

Tango
10-02-2009, 09:02 PM
You did W E L L.........

bushycat
10-02-2009, 09:07 PM
Then you, my friend, are a rare and exceptional individual.

I believe that fear is normal in the face of challenging and daunting
circumstances. How you react to that fear, is key.
Fiiish,
No, fear is not normal for everyone. And it's gobbled up by the entities which promote it. One can turn around, throw open the door where such things on your list are, and shine the light in that dark closet. Anchor and many others here say over and over, "Don't dwell on what you don't want." Let's lift the veil of our amnesia and know no fear.

Love Always,
Bushycat

FIIISH
10-02-2009, 09:42 PM
I have always found that denial works well in a crisis, but serves
as a block over the longer term.

Acknowledging things we are afraid of can open the way to healing.

I agree that one has to be careful of focus-it leads to manifestation.

There are those without fear, and those who experience it but
do not allow it to control them. I am one of the latter, and I know
in that I am not alone.

This was not intended as a debate regarding the merits of fear
or lack thereof, merely as a place to share for those inclined.

For those with constructive comments, I thank you! :original:

FIIISH
10-02-2009, 10:27 PM
Ok, lets flip things around.

I hope:

1. That things will just keep getting better

2. That the ascension process and 2012 will be well worth the inconvenience
and wait and that we will see fundamental, lasting change

3. That the current game won't stick around for a long time to come,and
all of the changes I have made in preparation for the shift will pay off

4. That if I decide to reinvest in this game, it will be for the right reasons

5. That when my time is up, I have the free will choice to stay or leave

6. That I will be where I am supposed to be when at the right time

7. That I not only have a ticket, but have boarded the boat and on voyage!

8. That my contributions will combine with those of others to effect positive change.

9. All of my questions will be answered at the appropriate time

:thumb_yello:

bushycat
10-02-2009, 10:56 PM
Great, Fiiish. turned them all around.

Ammit
10-02-2009, 11:05 PM
I only fear me, what I can do to others, scares me to the bone.

lindabaker
10-02-2009, 11:08 PM
I'm afraid for international friendship as a whole. First of all, since Wall Street mucked up as badly as we know by now, will the rest of world judge the average working American for not preventing such corruption? Will folks in other countries realize that the top of that pyramid was so high that we couldn't even see it, let alone do anything about it? That we are as angry and frustrated as the rest of the world over this? Most open hearted people around me are not even aware of the disdain and hatred, and so they go about their merry way, visiting the UK, the continent, Asia, and so forth. I'm afraid that the Americans are so very unaware of their present position in terms of attitude toward them. Anybody care to tell me I'm just paranoid?

Steven
10-02-2009, 11:29 PM
Hello Fiiish.

There is two kind of fears. The first comes from something real, right in front of you, at the moment, in the now. It makes you act, it gives you adrenaline and get your butt out of the way faster then you could ever imagine. Your heart beats at 300 but you have the adrenaline to maintain it for a while. It is instinctive. This fear is a natural mechanism for survival. When extreme, you can jump 6 feet in the air. You can crush a wooden door, you can turn a car upside down. I already experienced it. It is real and very useful.

Now, about the second kind. The second kind of fear is the most common. The one we always talk about. The one that is there because we are not it the NOW. The one that is psychological and instead of making your butt to fly, it sticks you into the ground like if you were stuck into a hole of mud. Fear of something very active in our head, but not real, at least not yet. This fear keeps your focus very active, all creative energy gathering around the thought you fear to happen. Then boom... It is there.

Observe the wild animals. Fear makes them run extremely fast, in the good direction. When the danger is gone, they become calm again like if nothing had happened.

Namaste, Steven

FIIISH
10-02-2009, 11:30 PM
Linda,

First, thank you for sharing.

Second,
I think your concerns are legitimate, but the damage can be undone in time.

Steven,

I agree completely. Fear can serve us, or we can serve it.

Steven
10-02-2009, 11:36 PM
Fear can serve us, or we can serve it.

:thumb_yello:

Ammit
10-02-2009, 11:42 PM
Fear is something we have lived with for such a long time, fear of hunger, our families well fair, our friends, the hungry the poor, victims of natural disasters and the monetary system. The list is endless.
How will we ever forget our fears when we have lived a life of fear for so long?

FIIISH
10-03-2009, 12:04 AM
How will we ever forget our fears when we have lived a life of fear for so long?

Ammit,

Living without fear is certainly not easy. Some would say it's damn
near impossible. But I am working on it.

I can see a time when we are no longer being bombarded with
frequencies designed to keep us in a state of fear. It will be much
easier then. In the meantime, I have found it helpful to be very selective
about what I let in, particularly with the mainstream media.

Ross H
10-03-2009, 12:53 AM
Good lil thread
Fear and love...thats all we experience. Yes there are many sub-groups/tenticals of these two emotions.

What helps me greatly is to remind myself that I only have control over myself/higherself/ego. Im a father of two daughters and this has taught me major lessons in energy/love, reactive respones, and what I can control...my own energy

We also must foRgive ourselves and remind ourselves that we have been DUPED.

Imagine if we were introduced,while in the womb, to all the real stuff. Who we really are, our connection to everything, without fear without the DIMM,
Deception, Illusion, manipulation, and mind control...

I truely do not fear anything like I used too. Thats what awakening has done for me, because I now realise I have been Duped. I have forgiven my self.

peace

Tango
10-03-2009, 01:43 AM
I'm sorry I had to do that in front of you people... I really am...

But, we alll have to work to protect each other... He will be back or

Maybe give it to one of the other " Chickens Disobey "... May come

back under a different name... I've been staying up most nites waiting

for him... Note His tact, please.... We aware... Don't get sucked in.

I do expect more... Look for Key words... Don't let your guard down.

I'm very proud of all of you... Right now...

With love,


Tango

TruthWillSetUFree
10-03-2009, 02:15 AM
Here are my fears

For my young adult children, my son a pilot in TX and my daughter who just started college in MI. I fear I will not be with them when tshtf and I fear for them.

I fear for my family and friends, you know, the ones who don't listen about what is going on. I fear for them b/c I can see them trusting the gov about taking vaccines, believing false flag terrorism, etc. They still think the gov is there to protect them.

I fear for myself b/c I hope I will be able to be the calm in the storm when all hell breaks loose, that I will be where I am supposed to be, hopefully with my kids and will be able to do what I came here for.

I fear that I am prepared enough, but like Clif High said, you can be totally prepared with enough food, water etc then be blown some miles away due to some kind of emergency situation and land in the middle of nowhere with nothing and have to start over. Maybe over-preparation is over-rated anyway.

I still get fear feelings in the pit of my stomach but I don't feel like I am fearful, so I don't know where that is coming from since it is not from listening to news or reading anything dreadful. Sometimes the feeling just comes up and then disappears. It may be that I am clearing some energy through my third chakra.

My hopes are that we come together as a global society away from government/corporate rule. Where we respect one another and allow for another's point of view without fighting and where everyone can live a abundant and happy life without a consumerism mentality.

I really don't see that happening unless the entire system breaks down, which it is doing already...destruction-creation.

chitty
10-03-2009, 02:44 AM
Right on Target Tango. We didn't arrive here because we were afraid. I also request "FIIISH" be removed from this forum. Nothing personal, but I see no good with this attitude. This is not what Avalon is about.

FIIISH
10-03-2009, 04:57 AM
Truth,

Thank you for your post. I truly believe that talking about these
things helps dispel the emotional charge behind them.

Tango,

Don't you think you are being a bit paranoid?

The only person who is trying to get people worked up is you.

Your theory is quite amusing to say the least. Alas, I am no one special
just trying to figure all of this out like everyone else.

I gather you enjoy targeting people and picking fights. I have seen the moderators warn you plenty of times, so perhaps you should pay more attention to your own behavior here and less to others. :nono:

Chitty,

I have never seen you on here before. Could you please tell me what offense
I have committed that is so horrible that you are calling for me to be removed? :shocked:

Talk about a negative greeting! Nevermind, for the most part everyone has
been quite kind. Moving right along. :smoke:

Anchor
10-03-2009, 05:39 AM
Then you, my friend, are a rare and exceptional individual.

Actually your in for a shock. He is not as rare as you think.

I fear nothing.

I am not afraid of death - count the potential scenarios down from there....

I am aware of what extreme pain is like. Bit of a bummer but if it happens it happens. I am aware of what hunger is like and how my body reacts. Again this one is a bigger bummer but if it happens it happens.

With each passing day I am more sure that we are more than our flesh suits and if we need to remove them, it is not the end of us.

Fear is poison. Fear is the mind killer....

Fear is the substance from which the chains that bind you to the matrix are formed.

A..

Anchor
10-03-2009, 06:01 AM
I'm sorry I had to do that in front of you people... I really am...

But, we alll have to work to protect each other... He will be back or

Maybe give it to one of the other " Chickens Disobey "... May come

back under a different name... I've been staying up most nites waiting

for him... Note His tact, please.... We aware... Don't get sucked in.

I do expect more... Look for Key words... Don't let your guard down.

I'm very proud of all of you... Right now...

With love,


Tango


Tango,

We are not dumb creatures in need of protection. This forum has survived *REAL* and possibly "sponsored" attacks in the past and it did it all by itself with the powers and behaviors of the combined current membership.

I know for a fact that your heart is firmly in the right place but you keep crossing lines of attack. I don't know why you don't ever seem to understand that. You always violate the rule - no personal attacks - stop it.

I am going to ask you here and now, once again, please take a step back. Every time you think you need to attack someone - even if you think they are lizard minions of Lucifer himself, step back and don't post.

Trust us, trust the members of this forum. We are stronger than you think!

I am sorry to say that I have deleted a number of your posts above. That moderator decision can be reviewed (and if necessary reversed) by other members of the moderator team.

A..


-- "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.

Anchor
10-03-2009, 06:21 AM
Chitty,

I have never seen you on here before. Could you please tell me what offense
I have committed that is so horrible that you are calling for me to be removed? :shocked:

I'd like to know this too.

A..

mudra
10-03-2009, 06:35 AM
Fears are like clouds in the sky obscuring Light and sunshine.
Concentrating on them is missing the point.
It's like looking for an answer without while the truth at all times lies within you.
In the core of your being , within who you really are , there is no room for fear or anger.

Love Always
mudra

burgundia
10-03-2009, 08:15 AM
right on target tango. We didn't arrive here because we were afraid. This is not what avalon is about.
i second that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mudra
10-03-2009, 09:36 AM
I fear:

That things will just keep getting worse

That the ascension process and 2012 will be anti-climactic and we won't see any fundamental, lasting change

That the current game will stick around for a long time to come, and I will be left holding the bag

That I will decide to reinvest in this game, and have it all go to pot anyway

That I will be trapped into yet another cycle of reincarnation, and won't be allowed to 'go home'

That I won't be where I am supposed to be when and if things really start happening

That I have already missed the boat, and am now staring at a dead end

That it is too little, too late

That none of this will ever be explained or make sense-my questions remaining unanswered




I think no one here acknowledged the fact that you have those fears Fiiish.
I understand you carry them, they are your burden .
They are very real to YOU.

I want to say " do not look ahead in fear but rather around you in awareness ".
Every moment is a gift aptly named the " present " .
Believe that Life is worth living and your belief will help create the fact.
Fear can be transmuted into Love at which moment you'll know that you are exactly
in the right place doing the right thing and peace will follow always.

Love Always
mudra

Steven
10-03-2009, 01:03 PM
Fiiish, no worry dear. You are a blessing for all of us here. If some people ask mods to ban you form Avalon. Be sure many, many people here do not agree with it.

Now, if you people do not like the thread, don't feed it. If you do want to treat someone with lack of respect, send him a PM. No need to make a show out of it, we have plenty of that nonsense on TV.

Fiiish is not asking to focus on fear. I do not agree with this kind of thread either, but I can live with it without the need to cross the line of respect.

There is no reason to lack respect like this, it is overreacting. Paranoia is also the thought that crosses my mind. You are asking to shut him up! Is it not exactly what we are all against? Segregation because you do not agree? Inviting him to the exit door? What if you were being treated this way, being new to the site. The way you treat someone will be the way you will be treated. Universal Laws are always at work. Acting like a savior is not what we need, we are all responsible, if not, the savior consciousness will simply worsen the case...

Some people have already forget we are guessed here. You can disagree with someone, but try to explain why with decent manner instead of calling 'Ban' to the mods. It is immature. Show us all that we can be mature, responsible, real loving brothers and sisters for humanity.

We are light, all of us, Namaste, Steven

Moxie
10-03-2009, 01:26 PM
It is the ultimate in self delusion to profess that you do not ever fear.
Fear is not something to be ashamed of. It is a 'new age' meme to profess yourself unfearful of anything and posses only love.

chitty
10-03-2009, 01:32 PM
Actually your in for a shock. He is not as rare as you think.

I fear nothing.

I am not afraid of death - count the potential scenarios down from there....

I am aware of what extreme pain is like. Bit of a bummer but if it happens it happens. I am aware of what hunger is like and how my body reacts. Again this one is a bigger bummer buTt if it happens it happens.

With each passing day I am more sure that we are more than our flesh suits and if we need to remove them, it is not the end of us.

Fear is poison. Fear is the mind killer....

Fear is the substance from which the chains that bind you to the matrix are formed.

A..
Thank you Anchor:thumb_yello: We are all in this together.:wub2:

Steven
10-03-2009, 01:47 PM
It is the ultimate in self delusion to profess that you do not ever fear.
Fear is not something to be ashamed of. It is a 'new age' meme to profess yourself unfearful of anything and posses only love.

:thumb_yello:

The psychological fear which comes because we are not in the moment, but rather worrying about something in our mind is in the Ego, not in the Higher self. If someone do not experience this fear anymore under any circumstances, it means the Ego has completely stepped aside and the higher Self has taken all the place. It is a journey.

Namaste, Steven

Anchor
10-03-2009, 02:12 PM
It is the ultimate in self delusion to profess that you do not ever fear.

Perhaps it is the ultimate self delusion to think one can know that with such certainty ;)

A..

Anchor
10-03-2009, 02:27 PM
The psychological fear which comes because we are not in the moment, but rather worrying about something in our mind is in the Ego, not in the Higher self. If someone do not experience this fear anymore under any circumstances, it means the Ego has completely stepped aside and the higher Self has taken all the place. It is a journey.

Namaste, Steven

Let me be more specific. I don't fear the future - near or far - I can honestly say that I don't. I am certain of it, and I am certain this is not a new age thing.

Not at any time since the last few years have I had any hint of such an emotion.

I also know for sure that my ego has not stepped aside. I do embrace my ego. It operates within normal parameters most of the time and occasionally wrestles control from my higher mind :mad3:

When I find myself in some kind of danger, say crossing a road and being taken by surprise by say some huge lorry bearing down on me then I will undergo the fight or flight reaction and run! That kind of fear works for me.

At the same time I can remember my guides/guardians/protectors triggering a fight of flight reaction and enabling me to avoid serious trouble and I have been saved that way a couple of times - and I didn't even know what the problem was until after I was moving!

A..

Reader
10-03-2009, 04:30 PM
I'm fearful of the world our kids will have to live in. My 12 yr. old son has Type-1 Diabetes and with insulin having a short shelf life, I'm fearful that if the US goes completely in the tank, vital medicines may be hard to come by.

TruthWillSetUFree
10-03-2009, 04:38 PM
Fiiish, no worry dear. You are a blessing for all of us here. If some people ask mods to ban you form Avalon. Be sure many, many people here do not agree with it.

Now, if you people do not like the thread, don't feed it. If you do want to treat someone with lack of respect, send him a PM. No need to make a show out of it, we have plenty of that nonsense on TV.

Fiiish is not asking to focus on fear. I do not agree with this kind of thread either, but I can live with it without the need to cross the line of respect.

There is no reason to lack respect like this, it is overreacting. Paranoia is also the thought that crosses my mind. You are asking to shut him up! Is it not exactly what we are all against? Segregation because you do not agree? Inviting him to the exit door? What if you were being treated this way, being new to the site. The way you treat someone will be the way you will be treated. Universal Laws are always at work. Acting like a savior is not what we need, we are all responsible, if not, the savior consciousness will simply worsen the case...

Some people have already forget we are guessed here. You can disagree with someone, but try to explain why with decent manner instead of calling 'Ban' to the mods. It is immature. Show us all that we can be mature, responsible, real loving brothers and sisters for humanity.

We are light, all of us, Namaste, Steven

Thank you for putting this discussion into perspective Steven
I will add a small snippet to your wisdom that I wrote on another thread, too lazy to rewrite it again so I copied and pasted it.


This forum is about sharing oneself

It is of the old paradigm where one remains silent because they are afraid to speak b/c of ridicule. OLD PARADIGM

The new is teaching us that everyone has a voice, everyone has a perception and it is all valid because it is their own experience of life

This is how wars begin by not allowing or ridiculing someone into silence

If something is bothering someone It is coming from within them

I daresay fear in the shadow, or unconscious, always gets triggered when one claims there is no fear..we all have fears it is part of being human

Because we are mulitifaceted and complex creatures you can feel fear one minute and be totally in the moment of NOW in the next. Remember we are in between worlds right now and can THINK one way and FEEL the total opposite at the same time!

Let's just allow.. allow.. allow for ourselves and each other

mudra
10-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Reader I really do wish your son gets all the medical support he needs always .
I will keep this vision in my heart.
Please feel free to add him on the list on the healing thread.
Our healing thoughts will surround him and back him up.
Find some peace within .
Cultivate trust in positive outcomes.It's free and can make all the difference.

Love always
mudra

Stargazer1965
10-03-2009, 04:47 PM
Thank you Anchor:thumb_yello: We are all in this together.:wub2:

Anchors right.....Fear is the weapon of the enemy.

If they are disarmed then they have NO say in your destiny.

A fearless person here is not rare.

We are added to lists I'm sure but those list will never come out of the pocket

We are targets and we all live with that....

Targets of

Family

Friends

Business

Lovers

Govts

And still we stand here....and stand up for the next guy.

The ALTERNATE WORLD ORDER

AWO

time to press reset..........

Reader
10-03-2009, 04:49 PM
Thanks Mudra, that's very kind of you.

mudra
10-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Anchors right.....Fear is the weapon of the enemy.



I think that where there is no fear there is no enemy.
Peace within.
Love sees no dichotomies.

Love always
mudra

Jacqui D
10-03-2009, 05:15 PM
we are all on paths of discovery some fear some do not instead of one putting their view to be right and the other wrong, why don't we all just agree to be different, we all find our way eventually we are just on different levels of this learning curve, please lets all be kind to each other :wub2::wub2:

mudra
10-03-2009, 05:45 PM
we are all on paths of discovery some fear some do not instead of one putting their view to be right and the other wrong, why don't we all just agree to be different, we all find our way eventually we are just on different levels of this learning curve, please lets all be kind to each other :wub2::wub2:

Someone had to put it in these words .
I agree all along with you Jacqui.:thumb_yello:
If there is anything one should do at all for someone who fears it's to support him and help along with enough Love and compassion that the prison he was in eases off.
True life deals in subtilities not plain dichotomies.

Love always
mudra

lucrum
10-03-2009, 06:39 PM
I skipped reading all posts made, so do point me to one I should've read if what I now type has relevance.

Now, I'm afraid of nothing. I used to be, I used to be afraid of everything.
It all culminated in an episode as a nightwatch guard, called to a break in alarm. Stepping out of my car, I instantly learned I was not alone. This spooked me, alot. I had to quit that job, I laid awake at night hearing things. I was a mess for a few months.

Then, it all let go. I'm not afraid anymore. Like someone else mentioned, I do dislike some things, but it's nothing I won't get passed. :thumb_yello:

As for hopes, I tend to leave them behind. To me, hope is passiveness. I might have the wrong idea about hope, but the way I see it the verb "to do" beats the **** out of hoping. The power of change is within me, therefor change is what I do and not what I hope I'll do. :)

PS: I scrolled a little down while typing this and added something to my dislike list. Come on, you can do much better than this...my support to OP and the mods.

mntruthseeker
10-03-2009, 06:42 PM
I have to put down that before I was awake and aware, I had less fears, and then I really woke up and now my fears are silenced.

I think that having fear is playing in their hand and we can turn that around to our best interest by letting it go and really really feeling the wonderous freedom of ever.


\ YouTube - The Science of Peace - trailer

mudra
10-03-2009, 06:50 PM
I think your signature Lucrum summarizes it all " Don't worry be happy " :thumb_yello:

The happiness that we carry is the Love that we share .

Love always
mudra

I skipped reading all posts made, so do point me to one I should've read if what I now type has relevance.

Now, I'm afraid of nothing. I used to be, I used to be afraid of everything.
It all culminated in an episode as a nightwatch guard, called to a break in alarm. Stepping out of my car, I instantly learned I was not alone. This spooked me, alot. I had to quit that job, I laid awake at night hearing things. I was a mess for a few months.

Then, it all let go. I'm not afraid anymore. Like someone else mentioned, I do dislike some things, but it's nothing I won't get passed. :thumb_yello:

As for hopes, I tend to leave them behind. To me, hope is passiveness. I might have the wrong idea about hope, but the way I see it the verb "to do" beats the **** out of hoping. The power of change is within me, therefor change is what I do and not what I hope I'll do. :)

PS: I scrolled a little down while typing this and added something to my dislike list. Come on, you can do much better than this...my support to OP and the mods.

Tango
10-03-2009, 06:57 PM
FEAR... Why, I dislike its use. What it causes...

Fear of loss of one's home and income has caused, a man I read about, to
remove his entire family and himself because He didn't want them to suffer.

Fear of a heart attack; Whereas one goes into panic, instead of thinking...
something as simple as coughing is enough to stimulate the heart.
Instead of panic and death.

Fear causes Stress; which willl cause a reaction in the body. We become sick.
Where without that fear we will fight off an illness in a short time.

This is WHY the MSM sell's FEAR... To make one sick, one then moves toward
pharmaceuticals SSRI's; HPV vaccines, vaccines for flu. How many young
girls 9-18 y.o. have been permanently damaged by this pharmaceutical. How
many more will die at the hands of a doctor. Who is practicing. Doing what
a Drug Rep. says to script.

So, When one comes HERE and wants to spread FEAR I react. I Have been in
War. And, was wounded very badly... I survived ' I believe ' because There
is a purpose. There Is a reason... I, know I am HARD; but, I also have a soft
chewy center... But, I have saved lives... A lot of lives. For the work that I
did.

This IS a community. With Gates... When, one joins he is given a code
to enter and in this case holds a handful of flyers to pass out. The
guard (Mod) is off. Doing what guards do when they are off. A member
confronts the one with these flyers preaching FEAR and the member
says don't pass those out in here. The guard shows up and say let him
pass his flyers. No harm No foul. Let him pass his FEAR in our community.

And, one brought a list of FEAR Keywords... I don't believe I was wrong. Still.
Now, I ask YOU... Why one would bring a list to our community... To spread
FEAR. Again, I say Why... What purpose did it serve. Once again I'm
Made to go along to get along. So, it is with Anchor and I... We agree to disagree But,
HE holds the KEYS. Sooo, I must BOW...?


Trooly,


Tango

mudra
10-03-2009, 07:53 PM
And I bow to you Tango ..
For I understand...
You would give your life away to save a thousand..
And you would rather shout fear away than to give it a chance to slip in .
You love us as your children and for this I respect you.
You have your own role to play and you do it with integrity.
It can be rude and harsh at times.
Maybe you have to learn to contain yourself a litle ..
I am not the one to judge this .
But behind this I know that what moves you only is LOVE.
No blame.

Love always
mudra
No blame.

Humble Janitor
10-03-2009, 08:02 PM
I fear losing everything I have and ending up on the street. I try not to dwell on it but right now, it's getting pretty hairy.

Tango
10-03-2009, 08:22 PM
And, this is Why I love you Mudra, I have taken a bullet before, several, in fact.
And, I would do it again... For each of You that understand. I have this button.
On it, it says I've survived ' Damn ' near everything... I got it from Gen. Butler
grandson. Col. Butler. HHmmm... I wonder if Col. Butler, would say holster
your weapon Tango, for they have given their Nickel.

Trooly,

Tango


And I bow to you Tango ..
For I understand...
You would give your life away to save a thousand..
And you would rather shout fear away than to give it a chance to slip in .
You love us as your children and for this I respect you.
You have your own role to play and you do it with integrity.
It can be rude and harsh at times.
Maybe you have to learn to contain yourself a litle ..
I am not the one to judge this .
But behind this I know that what moves you only is LOVE.
No blame.

Love always
mudra
No blame.

Stargazer1965
10-03-2009, 08:25 PM
And, this is Why I love you Mudra, I have taken a bullet before, several, in fact.
And, I would do it again... For each of You that understand. I have this button.
On it is says I've survived ' Damn ' near everything... I got it from Gen. Butler
grandson. Col. Butler. HHmmm... I wonder if Col. Butler, would say holster
your weapon Tango, for they have given their Nickel.

Trooly,

Tango

Thanks for the nickel Tango...I'll put it to good use:original:

Steven
10-03-2009, 08:26 PM
I understand your motive Fiiish. Your intend was not to ask people to focus on fear, but rather facing them with courage. You have all my respect for this. I think your true intention was not understood by many here. It is ok.

Nevertheless, the thread is interesting and has a high value. Simply ignoring fear as it was a highly contagious cancer is certainly not the way to meet with our true power. My experience showed me that it is the opposite. Facing your fear is how you can cross the door leading to the crossroad of worlds.

On the other hand, I also understand why some people did not appreciate this thread. It can be interpreted as contemplating your fear. If you stare in the darkness too long, you will bring something back with you from there. You might printed your matrix a little further. You might get overwhelmed by your fears.

If you have many fears hunting you. Take them one at a time. One by one, beginning with the easiest to deal with. Face them... With the certitude you can get over it with dedication and knowledge. Go step by step, don't rush anything. Go progressively at your own rhythm. Start facing them into your own mind, if you succeed in your consciousness, you will succeed in reality.

And take time to contemplate what it will be to live without them. Focus on yourself, into action, without this fear. Feel the freedom and the joy... Never loose this focus and you will see your fear will fade away...

I hope it helped.

Namaste, Steven

iainl140285
10-03-2009, 08:45 PM
Fear!?:lmao:
There's nothing to fear once you learn what you are ....
Not worth my time and brain power, sorry:nono:

bushycat
10-03-2009, 08:55 PM
Someone had to put it in these words .
I agree all along with you Jacqui.:thumb_yello:
If there is anything one should do at all for someone who fears it's to support him and help along with enough Love and compassion that the prison he was in eases off.
True life deals in subtilities not plain dichotomies.

Love always
mudra

I think we are being encouraging and supportive and compassionate here at forum by reminding ourselves and one another to face any fears, transcend them,be in love. It's not ignoring the fact that one has fears, it's an invitation to higher ground. We want to grow together.

Love Always,
Bushycat

burgundia
10-03-2009, 10:12 PM
Fear!?:lmao:
There's nothing to fear once you learn what you are ....
Not worth my time and brain power, sorry:nono:

:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

RedeZra
10-03-2009, 10:13 PM
life

like a

leaf

trembling

and

autumn

anticipates

mudra
10-03-2009, 10:24 PM
I fear losing everything I have and ending up on the street. I try not to dwell on it but right now, it's getting pretty hairy.

Humble lose every fear and the universe is going to bring all you need at all times.
It is the moment that I lost everything that meant to me that I was brought back to life.
For when that moment arrived all my fears dropped at the same time.

Love always
mudra

bushycat
10-03-2009, 10:57 PM
Humble lose every fear and the universe is going to bring all you need at all times.
It is the moment that I lost everything that meant to me that I was brought back to life.
For when that moment arrived all my fears dropped at the same time.

Love always
mudra

How beautiful of you to share that, Mudra. My heart felt your words. It truly illustrates what is said about
gain disguised as loss. The hardest blow of all can enlighten our beings. It is also said that we are loved beyond measure, and we are shown this when we least expect it. But also we can expect it.

Love Always,
Bushycat

mudra
10-03-2009, 11:20 PM
Thank you Bushy,

You are always a refreshing and wise companion to my posts :wub2::wub2::wub2:
You are a true sister in the soul.

Love always
mudra

JesterTerrestrial
10-03-2009, 11:30 PM
:mfr_omg: O.M.G. WERE ALL GONNA LIVE!!! :mfr_lol:

bushycat
10-03-2009, 11:35 PM
:mfr_omg: O.M.G. WERE ALL GONNA LIVE!!! :mfr_lol:

It's a good thing, too.

mudra
10-04-2009, 12:37 AM
I think your true intention was not understood by many here. It is ok.



Namaste Steven I see it this way ...Fiish 's post triggered several viewpoints ...the diversity of those is what makes up understanding.
We all share a part of the truth .

Love always
mudra

mudra
10-04-2009, 12:41 AM
:mfr_omg: O.M.G. WERE ALL GONNA LIVE!!! :mfr_lol:

Jester my friend it feels so good to have You onboard. You are such an amazing optimistic soul . I give you 3 stars !!! :wub2::wub2::wub2:

Love Always
mudra

Ross H
10-04-2009, 12:44 AM
How beautiful of you to share that, Mudra. My heart felt your words. It truly illustrates what is said about
gain disguised as loss. The hardest blow of all can enlighten our beings. It is also said that we are loved beyond measure, and we are shown this when we least expect it. But also we can expect it.

Love Always,
Bushycat

Mudra and Bushy...

Yours word are beautiful, touching and a full expression of love...

A world full of your kind is a world I wish to live in...

Tango: Bless you my friend, you keep it honest, thankyou.


Love to all

mudra
10-04-2009, 01:05 AM
Mudra and Bushy...

Yours word are beautiful, touching and a full expression of love...:thumb_yello:

A world full of your kind is a world I wish to live in...:original:



Let is be so Jross ... Sailing at high speed ..Paradise within reach.

Love always
mudra

bushycat
10-04-2009, 01:27 AM
Let is be so Jross ... Sailing at high speed ..Paradise within reach.

Love always
mudra

Yes, great trip....all in the same boat.

xxBC

bushycat
10-04-2009, 01:33 AM
Thank you Bushy,

You are always a refreshing and wise companion to my posts :wub2::wub2::wub2:
You are a true sister in the soul.

Love always
mudra

Well, thank you, too, Mudra. I just always love being where you are.....

xxBC

TruthWillSetUFree
10-04-2009, 03:29 AM
I like the course this thread has taken, each one expressing their views on what fear means to them, how it has impacted their lives and reaching out to others in understanding and clarity.

I feel differences of opinion are like two opposing energies coming together creating a wonderful paradox, a force to be reckoned with, an explosion of vibrant energy that can be used as a catalyst for powerful change, deep introspection, to break a pattern, or spell, one is under about themselves or their life.

IMO This is another reason why Avalon offers such a richness, a beautiful multi-textured tapestry woven with many ideas, emotions, love and hard hitting reality....the microcosm we create here is a reflection of the global macrocosm.


Time for beddy bye,,,,good night all

FIIISH
10-04-2009, 05:41 AM
I think your true intention was not understood by many here

It was not my intention to spread fear, but to discuss it and give those
who wanted to a place to share them. I think some have misunderstood,
but most have not, and for that I am grateful.

FIISH: Thankyou for this thread

It was not a pleasure, but an honor. Before I started posting here, I had
a pretty high opinion of Avalon and the people here. While I was somewhat
surprised and disturbed by the manner in which some reacted to the original post, the subsequent contributions speak for themselves. We are all on the same team here. Differences of opinion can be handled tactfully and
respectfully, as many have shown. This has definitely reminded me of some
of the pitfalls of reaching out to others, but the rewards are well worth it.

Good night from Arizona all! :original: >>> :sleep_1: