Barak Obama and Nobel

[Steve_A]

Hi Everybody,

Barak Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize this morning. I say awarded as in this case I can't say that he won it on merit, but that's another story.

The cut off date for nominations for the award is in the February before the award, two weeks after Obama took office. Go figure.

The principal reason for the giving of the award to Obama was because he outreached to the Muslim world, which is all good and done, however he is still wanting to try and destroy with Israel almost the whole of the Middle East.

I wish I could win an award and the money just for lip service.

Best regards,

Steve

[artvision]

"... the Devil will raise up a man with a genius for political imposture, a sinister bewitcher around whom fanatical multitudes will cluster. The ... [world] will hail this man as the Messiah ... After destroying the authority of Christianity, HE WILL UNITE ALL MANKIND ON THE BASIS OF UNIVERSAL PEACE AND BROTHERHOOD, and bestow on it a superabundance of material goods. For these great services, the Gentile nations will accept him, exalt him, and worship him as a god - but in reality, for all his apparent benevolence, he will be Satan's instrument for the perdition of mankind."

Gougenot des Mousseaux,
Le Juif, le judaisme it la judaisation
des peuples chretiens,
Paris, 1869

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

david wilcock is sounding more and more wrong about this man as each day passes.. also in his great lecture in LA he goes on about even goeorge soros is call ing for a global currencie, obv hes an agent for the queen /roths ..the idea is to implode the dollar and attempt to get a global currencie.. i like david wilcock but i think hes in fantasy land on this one..

there is 99.9% evidence obama is a fraud wilcocks evidence is .1%

[Sarahmay]

Sorry, you guys are wrong about Obama, he is a white hat. But the forces against him are astounding, and you are falling into the hands of the illuminati who want to bring him down.

[pyrangello]

Thats an interesting take ArtVision , And Steve oh yes many of us woke up this morning and heard the nobel peace prize award and when being told our president won almost everyones first response is "What did he do to win that?"

Maybe it's the promise of borrowed money he's handing out, 2 days ago here in detroit the city was given 15.4 million dollars to assist the residents in paying there heating bills, utilities and house payments, rumors got out that everyone was getting a check for $3000.00 . When in all reality that was not the case. So they showed up for 2 days and the newpaper is saying at least 50,000 citizens of detroit signed up for the money. They were lined up everywhere for hours.

" Show me the money !

[Steve_A]

Hi pyrangello,

The nominees for the Peace Prize had to be in by last February, in other words the award would be offered for things done before the closing date. Although handing out free dough I'm sure is very benevolent, it wouldn't have counted in this case.

So the question must be asked: What did Obama do last year and all the time before that, before he became president, that was so outreaching to the Muslim faith (the principal reason for him being awarded the honour)? It could bring up the question again if Obama is in fact Muslim as many had rumoured last year. Of course if he is, so what, but why hide the fact if it is true?

Best regards,

Steve


Thats an interesting take ArtVision , And Steve oh yes many of us woke up this morning and heard the nobel peace prize award and when being told our president won almost everyones first response is "What did he do to win that?"

Maybe it's the promise of borrowed money he's handing out, 2 days ago here in detroit the city was given 15.4 million dollars to assist the residents in paying there heating bills, utilities and house payments, rumors got out that everyone was getting a check for $3000.00 . When in all reality that was not the case. So they showed up for 2 days and the newpaper is saying at least 50,000 citizens of detroit signed up for the money. They were lined up everywhere for hours.

" Show me the money !

[artvision]

george soros is call ing for a global currency, obv hes an agent for the queen /roths ..the idea is to implode the dollar and attempt to get a global currency

The issue of destroying the dollar is just to advance their agenda of One World Government, playing also the issue of frustration other people has to work for dollars, while US just need to print them. Who is buying this issue has a puerile thinking, not realizing that the collapse of dollar will bring us more bad things, than advertised good. From many years I do not save dollars, nor I do business in dollars, everything is in euro for me, but would be a stupidity from my side not realizing what problems worldwide will incur that maneuver.

As I have a life experience, when I've been in Germany at the time the PTB were pushing in the EURO and wishing death to Deutsche Mark, in a creepish, haloweenish show, of burying the DM and birth of Euro. The german people weren't happy at all and didn't participated to that artificial and stirrup joy, sensing somehow that they will not benefit from it. And so it was, because immediately everything that cost 100 DM translated in 100 EURO, while the salaries were halved: if you had 3000 DM, now have 1500 EURO, but merchandise doubled...

Be aware, those wishing death of dollar, you will have no gain from this, only to loose. :thumbdown:

[artvision]

Sorry, you guys are wrong about Obama, he is a white hat. But the forces against him are astounding, and you are falling into the hands of the illuminati who want to bring him down.

Men of peace. Men of Nobel prize for PEACE:

http://comments.theherald.co.uk/heraldtalk/2009/02/obama-to-send-thousands-more-troops-to-afghanistan.php

Obama to send thousands more troops to Afghanistan (more precisely: 60,000)

Posted: Wednesday February 18, 2009, 08:27

President Barack Obama approved adding thousands of US troops for the flagging war in Afghanistan yesterday, his first significant move to change the course of a war that his...

If this is a men of peace...:mfr_lol:

And awarded Nobel prize. Maybe Nobel is rolling in his grave from how is used his prize.:mad3:

[pyrangello]

In regards to christianity, consider the following facts in the past few months regarding the disregard for this type of religion. When our president gave that speech at the all catholic college this year the administration had the crucifix blacked out behind where he was to give his speech so it would not be in the background on tv. Next there was no recognition of our national day of prayer that came and went, and historically our presidents have choose a church to attend to in the DC area, that has not happened either. I am certainley open to all religious beliefs and respect them all but I am just explaining what I see at present.

With the word God in so many aspects of this country "In God we trust" on our money and coins, God in the motto of every state in the union I just don't understand why there is such an attack of this area of religion as this was our base why this country was founded and created our identity.

[orthodoxymoron]

In my view, at least, the United States should be based solely upon the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...rather than being 'One Nation Under God'(which strongly implies a Theocracy). Wasn't this country established to escape Theocracy, Monarchy, and Aristocracy? The power is supposed to be in the hands of you and me...not in the hands of malevolent humans and non-humans...who are playing god.

At the front of the Senate Chambers...there are Fascist Symbols on each side...with 'One Nation Under God' front and center. Should this really read 'One Nation Under the Vatican'...or 'One Nation Under the Holy Roman Empire'? What's wrong with this picture? Why isn't the Constitution on one side...and the Bill of Rights on the other side...with 'One Nation Under the Constitution' front and center?

Also...I see Obama as someone who wants to do the right thing...but who has sold his soul to the CFR, the Bilderberg Group, etc, etc. He's in too deep. He's riding on the back of a tiger...and he may end up inside. I hope not...and I congratulate him regarding the Nobel Prize. What would Alfred Nobel say?

[waitinginthewings]

I was gobsmacked this morning when I read that headline of Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize........it is such a blatant "fix"...........he has done "NOTHING" to deserve it. I also do not buy the theory that he is a good man who has sold his soul to TPTB. If he truly was a good man, he would have the courage to do the "right thing". If he is truly a "good man" he will return the Prize stating that he has NOT EARNED IT.

its interesting that I have not come across a single news items in the media, or online about Obama or anyone else for that matter being in the running for this prize........am I the only one who missed this? They really sneaked this one on us. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I have up until now held back on any opinion about Obama, because I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, & wait to see him show his "true colours" & for me he has just done that. I now concur with Artvision, who quoted the biblical passage........man of perdition. To me, this is the first tell-tale sign of who he really is.

[orthodoxymoron]

Someone can want to do the right thing...and still be a bad person. Selling one's soul is not a good sign...

[waitinginthewings]

Ortho: its his actions that count....that's what the people judge him by. A man who becomes President choose that position before he was born......so I believe that he absolutely knew the game he was getting into. JFK also knew the game & tried to change it, by doing the right thing.....for that, they killed him.

I fully expect an attempt on Obama's life just to manipulate us further into thinking that he "must be a good man" because only "good men" are killed.

[Jnana]

This was one of those announcements that just seemed surreal. Scientists who's work has resulted in great benefits to society often don't get recognized until decades after their work was initially published. What has Obama accomplished? Next to nothing. This goes beyond being merely political and well into bizarre. What does the Nobel Committee know that we don't know?

[waitinginthewings]

Jnana: ................"what does the Nobel Committee know ..........."

Well in my opinion, probably nothing.......they were just given the order for the prize to go to Obama. No questions allowed:zip:

[TheObserver]

but who has sold his soul to the CFR, the Bilderberg Group, etc, etc

Sold his soul, or infiltrated? Perhaps he's fighting from the inside.
Obama is as surprised as us all and admits nothing is accomplished yet,
but i saw his brief press conference in response to this announcement and he hopes this gives momentum to his initiatives.
Perhaps instead of looking for evil around every corner we should be providing some positive momentum his way as well! :original:

[Light Beyond]

Sorry, you guys are wrong about Obama, he is a white hat. But the forces against him are astounding, and you are falling into the hands of the illuminati who want to bring him down.

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[Phtha]

Yup. I never gave much faith to Wilcock in the first place, but since his Nobama lies I know he is paid dis info, and this is one of the main reasons why.

Peace prize, for continuing a genocide.... :sad:

I thought they were all the same being that obama is 8th cousin to dick cheney .

[orthodoxymoron]

Here is my Obama comment in its entirety (as it should have been quoted):

"Also...I see Obama as someone who wants to do the right thing...but who has sold his soul to the CFR, the Bilderberg Group, etc, etc. He's in too deep. He's riding on the back of a tiger...and he may end up inside. I hope not...and I congratulate him regarding the Nobel Prize. What would Alfred Nobel say?"

Context is important. A quote can be whittled down to say just about anything. Reductio Ad Absurdum: Reduced to the Point of Absurdity.

I got taken to task for being pro-Obama...and for being anti-Obama. I must have gotten it just right. :original:

[TheObserver]

Ortho i did see your congratulation and seeing him as wanting to do good, but i wasn't addressing you directly in my reply, sorry if you misunderstood my post.
The last sentence of my post above was directed at the more virulent anti-Obamites.

Next time i'll simply type 'sold his soul...." without a quote box when i copy/paste others words because those few words of the post are the ones that triggered a thought.

[orthodoxymoron]

I thought that might be the case...but I just couldn't resist making the comment I did. I don't love Obama...and I don't hate Obama. I just don't like what has happened to the U.S. Presidency since Kennedy...and I hope the necessary corrections will be made sometime soon. Perhaps Obama can help make these corrections. He should be taking orders from We the People...and not from Secret Societies. But look what happened to President Kennedy when he tried to do the right thing. Unfortunately...I'm paranoid enough to think that the Secret Societies receive orders from malevolent non-humans...who may, in turn, receive orders from even darker forces. Everyone's probably getting squeezed. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. I just want to see a responsible and free human race in a solar system free from malevolent beings of any kind (I mean the really hardcore bad-guys...not necessarily the naughty ones or the mercenaries).

[Phtha]

You mean this speech? This one where he is reading text that he never wrote? :lmfao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7bHkH779qg




Sold his soul, or infiltrated? Perhaps he's fighting from the inside.
Obama is as surprised as us all and admits nothing is accomplished yet,
but i saw his brief press conference in response to this announcement and he hopes this gives momentum to his initiatives.
Perhaps instead of looking for evil around every corner we should be providing some positive momentum his way as well! :original:

[TheObserver]

As far as getting things just right when caught in the middle perhaps Obama is succeeding in the same way since for every far right complaint is a far left disappointment.

[Unified Serenity]

Ortho i did see your congratulation and seeing him as wanting to do good, but i wasn't addressing you directly in my reply, sorry if you misunderstood my post.
The last sentence of my post above was directed at the more virulent anti-Obamites.

Next time i'll simply type 'sold his soul...." without a quote box when i copy/paste others words because those few words of the post are the ones that triggered a thought.

Being one of those "Virulent anti-Obamites" I judge a tree based on the fruit it bears. The fruit is linked to the soil from which it grows. My ex-husband's family has a farm and interestingly, there are two orange trees on it. They like to play a joke on newbies to the farm and get them to pick a ripe orange from one tree, and watch them take the first bite. It is incredibly sour. Then they let them eat from the other tree, and it is sweet and delicious. They love that joke.

Obama entire resume of how he got from his kindergarten, high school, college, and the various jobs he has held has been kept pretty much secret in it's details of his accomplishments.

We have no idea why he made Harvard's Law Review organization. He appears to have been given everything he has received. He has little work to show for his years of "service". He pretty much started running for President once he was made a Senator. Obama said he was going to Change Washington and yet he has continued the Bush/Cheney policies which he vehemently campaigned against. Are we out of the Middle East? He has given the banksters everything they wanted while millions of American's have lost their jobs, homes, and wonder where is this fabled stimulous. Obama's fruit is an agenda of destroying what's left of the middle class. He has lied over and over and been caught in those lies yet the media has tingles up their legs at the very mention of his name.

Yes, worship at the Obama tree. He is a front man who cannot speak intelligently without the TOTUS. He's even too lazy to memorize his speeches. Keep on sleeping on, and for you disinfo agents here you really are a laughing stock in some of your replies. I am not saying everyone here who liked Obama is a disinfo agent, but there are some here who are blatently seeking to derail topics, and the truth being revealed.

US

[Debi5]

I found it strange that he was announced the Nobel prize winner at about the same time the moon is being bombed. Is that like hell freezing over?:naughty:

[TheObserver]

United Serenity, i'm no worshiper or dis-info agent just a normal guy with an opinion. I'm as 'awake' as anyone here.
Being awake has nothing to do with walking lock step to keep a topic on it's 'rail'.

[orthodoxymoron]

As far as getting things just right when caught in the middle perhaps Obama is succeeding in the same way since for every far right complaint is a far left disappointment.

Getting it right would involve faithfully and enthusiastically following the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The right and the left should exist within the context of the Constitution. Can someone provide a link to an Obama speech praising and expounding upon the Constitution and Bill of Rights? To be fair...can someone provide a link to any President, Vice-President, Senator, Congressman, Supreme Court Justice, or Attorney General...giving a speech praising and expounding upon the Constitution and Bill of Rights...especially in the last 50 years...other than Ron Paul or Barry Goldwater?

Here is a Constitution Evasion Potpourri: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NhcI8Fv_4E

[Phtha]

The issue here has nothing to do with what direction the topic takes. If your goal is just simply to disagree with a topic because you want to derail it then good luck, you'll need it.

Nobamas press speech was read from pre-written text, as are all his other speeches. His job is not to share his own reaction. He is an actor, a puppet to be more precise.



I'm as 'awake' as anyone here.
Being awake has nothing to do with walking lock step to keep a topic on it's 'rail'.

[Samarkis]

This is just my two cents people............I see that Pesident Obama has set a new standard as President............He has set up several websites to let the public post info ,requests,and discussions............This has been expensive to maintain and yet supportors have donated and put personal time into helping............When one thinks about it.......that is already THOUSANDS of volunteer hours!!!!!!! I am also happy to see that President Obama has opened doors to dialogue and diplomacy to the World more than had been the practice for 8 years.............We are One World of Humans that should be in Harmony........

I feel it is very symbolic that at precisely the same moments that the Moon was being bombed,that Pres. Obama recieved the Nobel Peace Prize...........sometimes things happen in order to cause more good to occur............we are not used to "On Credit"..........and yet I have my hopes that it has been well placed!!!!!!!!

Sometimes change is not as quickly as we would like to see on a world scale & yet,we must all persist in many small steps to make a mountain of positive change!!!!!!!!

Keep going!!!!!!!! Keep walking the walk!!!!!!!!!!

[TheObserver]

No plan here Phtha.

To all, i'm here because i find the subject matter of ufos, illuminati, consciousness etc to be fascinating.
However i have always voted Democrat all my life (perhaps naively) because they at least pretend to care for the working class while the Republicans seem to to care for the business class.
My election time joke is i don't make enough money to vote republican yet!

Have fun, thanks for 'ganging up' on me, it was a lot of fun and i love each and everyone of you. :thumb_yello:

[orthodoxymoron]

Observer: I liked your last post! :thumb_yello: But the rest of them suck! :thumbdown: Just kidding! :lol3:

[TheObserver]

Observer: I liked your last post! :thumb_yello: But the rest of them suck! :thumbdown: Just kidding! :lol3:

:mfr_lol:

[Phtha]

Aside from the fact that you called anyone who disagrees with Nobama a "virulent anti-Obamite" you can be rest assured that no one is intentionally ganging up on you.

I respect your views, I can see how it would be easy to believe in the president, and understand your points.

Here is an old adage that comes to mind... One that Nobama and company are following to the tee.

"The path to hell is paved with good intentions."

There is no left/right in poll-itics. A Poll-iticians job is to make people poll-arize to the left or right so they think they are voting at the polls.

Behind the 'lodge' doors the poll-iticians from either side of the spectrum are all buddy buddy, probably much more so then we would care to imagine. :tongue2:

[TheObserver]

Don't worry Phtha, i know it's not intentional, i guess i'm just flattered by the attention. :original:

P.S. a little secret, voting simply makes the gov't us not 'them'.

[Phtha]

P.S. a little secret, voting simply makes the gov't us not 'them'.

Ah cool I was wondering why people voted. I guess I must be blind though, or maybe don't understand the joke? As the government seems to be more them then us.

That's ok though, I really have nothing against Barack, or anyone in office. It's the whole system from the ground up that I despise, this is why I'm glad the good guys are bringing it all down. :lightsabre:

[TheObserver]

P.S. a little secret, voting simply makes the gov't us not 'them'.

Well at least in theory if not in reality! :naughty:
Another American 'theory' is voting gives one a more concrete basis to complain about the corrupt bastards from. :mfr_lol:

P.S. i'm also a Gemini therefor astrologically schizoid! :roll1:

[lucrum]

If a Nobel prize is won by words and good intentions, I guess I should have recieved the award a multitude of times. :P

This is Al Gore incident all over...all talk and nothing to show for it.

I don't care who recieves it, but I do care that it goes to the right one. It did not this time either. With the Nobel committee situated in my country, with my countrymen as the judges...I'm ashamed of being Norwegian...

[Humble Janitor]

"... the Devil will raise up a man with a genius for political imposture, a sinister bewitcher around whom fanatical multitudes will cluster. The ... [world] will hail this man as the Messiah ... After destroying the authority of Christianity, HE WILL UNITE ALL MANKIND ON THE BASIS OF UNIVERSAL PEACE AND BROTHERHOOD, and bestow on it a superabundance of material goods. For these great services, the Gentile nations will accept him, exalt him, and worship him as a god - but in reality, for all his apparent benevolence, he will be Satan's instrument for the perdition of mankind."

Gougenot des Mousseaux,
Le Juif, le judaisme it la judaisation
des peuples chretiens,
Paris, 1869

Nice try, but Obama is NOT the anti-christ.

I just love people who repeat such ridiculous assumptions.

[Humble Janitor]

United Serenity, i'm no worshiper or dis-info agent just a normal guy with an opinion. I'm as 'awake' as anyone here.
Being awake has nothing to do with walking lock step to keep a topic on it's 'rail'.

Don't bother arguing with people on what or what is not right.

I thought this site was above such garbage but every time Obama gets brought up, the folks with a negative view of him are the loudest.

Thank goodness this place isn't bad like Above Top Secret.

[Ancient Alien]

If he is truly a "good man" he will return the Prize stating that he has NOT EARNED IT.


90 individuals are named as winners of the Nobel Peace Prize. Only once, in 1973, it has happened that a winner has refused to accept the award. It happened with the North Vietnamese chief negotiator Le Duc Tho, who shared the prize with Henry Kissinger after they negotiated a ceasefire agreement for Vietnam. Le Duc Tho would not accept the price because it was not yet peace in Vietnam.

[waitinginthewings]

90 individuals are named as winners of the Nobel Peace Prize. Only once, in 1973, it has happened that a winner has refused to accept the award. It happened with the North Vietnamese chief negotiator Le Duc Tho, who shared the prize with Henry Kissinger after they negotiated a ceasefire agreement for Vietnam. Le Duc Tho would not accept the price because it was not yet peace in Vietnam.

and Obama has not yet shown that he has done anything to earn this prize, hence my feeling that he should pass it on or share it with someone who deserves it.

From another article I read in the media, seems there is a mixed reaction to this from the public.

[Swanny]

Well after this the Nobel Peace Prize has lost all crediabilty to me, surely this is a joke???

[Steve_A]

Hi Swanny,

I tend to agree, the lustre has gone. I think the Nobel Peace Prize should now be downgraded to the same as the Eurovision Song Contest or Miss USA (in this case Mr. USA - imagine Obama being asked a difficult question whilst wearing a posing pouch!) or Dancing With the Stars.

It was said by some that he was given the award for his views on peace. I reckon most of us on this forum are more peace loving than he is. Do you reckon he'll share the dough with us? He can keep the trophy, it can't be worth all that much now, and just fork over the readies.

Best regards,

Steve


Well after this the Nobel Peace Prize has lost all crediabilty to me, surely this is a joke???

[viking]

Hi Steve ...

Well I must say I am truly surprised about this. However I believe that this is not coincidental with the moon bombing!! More like devine synchonicity..

Anyway after yesterdays excitement I have a few thoughts.

To put it shortly...

Let's just say that Obama was in the know with NASA and they were going to bomb an ET space station. The ET's put a stop to NASA shenanigans. As we all saw on the screens.

Now the timing was too perfect with the announcement of the Nobel Peace Prize winner...Again synchronous and bloody perfect!! Did you all notice how uncomfortable he was with the acceptance speech. Perhaps he really did have no idea, but with the situation forced upon him he had no choice but to accept with a humble manner.

So if this is the case and Obama has been boxed in to the corner, it will be interesting to see how this pans out over the next few days. Whether he likes it or not he will now be regarded as a bringer of peace!!! Could this be the start of dismantling the war machine?

Is it a question of 'Devine intervention' with a little surprise thrown in!!

Mr Obama you will do this our way!!!

HA HA thay must be laughing there heads off!!!!

Hilarious...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywSIVVLgA9w

All I can say is the 'Light' works in many ways.

Just my 2 cents worth.... :naughty:

viking

[lucrum]

Obama can very well choose to not accept it.

The leader of the nobel committee is Thorbjørn Jagland, which is also the leader of the European Council. He's getting massive critisism for this and is asked to leave the nobel committee.

How I see it, giving Obama the peace-prize prematurely is an attempt to restore goodwill towards him and further blind the masses. I'm not saying Obama is trying to cover anything up or intentionally doing things wrong, I actually think he stepped up as president of the US with good intentions and hopes for a better world.

The problem the way I see it, he has no political power or determination. He's been looking like a puppet so far, with all his promises not fullfilled or broken. He's trying but doesn't know how.

It was easy getting him elected. Take a black man, throw in some likeable words and a big big smile and top it with promises too good to be true. The fact alone he is the first ever afro-american president is enough. My first clue that something was wrong, was the interview where Obama told the world why he turns his head all the time while giving speeches. Teleprompters, he said...he needs them to remember the speech, if not he admitted to be completely lost.

To me, not having the ability to recite a speech without having to read a script...well, it's not very convincing.

Goes nicely with our "great" powerless king and our master of "rowing with chopsticks" primeminister.

[orthodoxymoron]

Has anyone considered the possibility that this Nobel Prize being awarded to President Obama could have something to do with his behind the scenes work regarding alien relations and disclosure? The Moon Incident, the Nobel Prize, the Alien Presence, and Disclosure. Hmmmmm. There could be more to this than meets the eye. A lot more. Stay tuned...and don't touch that mouse.

[peaceandlove]

Blessings All,

My regular computer is out for repair so I have not been able to listen to Ron Paul's reply (youtube video) to Obama's purported Peace Prize, but I am posting it here regardless as I'm sure it is pertinent.

No Peace with This Prize

Posted by Matt Hawes on 10/09/09 6:50 PM

In his latest C4L video, Dr. Paul gives his thoughts on awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama, looks at the president's pro-war record, and talks about the need for a true pro-peace movement.

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbcDk-bNoc8

SOURCE: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=26290

[peaceandlove]

OOPS didn't appear to be posting. DUPE

[peaceandlove]

Ditto

[artvision]

Nice try, but Obama is NOT the anti-christ.

I just love people who repeat such ridiculous assumptions.


Also me I love people emit poor judgements based on superficiality.

For your information, is not about of ONE ANTICHRIST: there are MANY ANTICHRISTS:

read here: http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/bible/john1.htm
on Chapter 2, vers. 18:

18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that Antichrist cometh, even now there are become many Antichrists: whereby we know that it is the last hour.

And another issue, I didn't say he is ANTICHRIST, I just put the quote to make as attentive to what might be the outcome from the MAN OF PEACE which sends more 60,000 troops in Afghanistan.

Lastly: the president whose "literary works" are published in Romania, just after 2 months he became president, not one book, but three and could be found in outskirts, dusty bookstore, in the window, from this man, we should be expecting to more things to come! We ain't see nothing yet, I'm sure! :smoke: