View Full Version : I just don`t understand some people..
Ammit
10-11-2009, 01:12 PM
Hi all
I have been trying to spread the word on different topics, swin flu vacine as one of them, this I am trying to do on various sites I am a member of.
Seems a lot of people just don`t want to hear it, some sites wont give permission for me to upload youtube and other information links, saying people will fall asleep reading this sort of rubbish :mfr_omg:
To spread the word and make people aware is such a hard thing to achieve.
Ammit
Swanny
10-11-2009, 01:22 PM
You're right they don't want to wake up.
They are happy watching X factor and EastEnders.
If you tell them things they don't want to hear you just **** them off and they even try to make fun of you. Twats. :thumbdown:
I've given up now :original:
Zeddo
10-11-2009, 01:24 PM
Hi Ammit
All you need do is keep on doing, those that are meant to recieve will, those who are deep in the arms of amorphous will stay there....
Remember one thing, you are a blessing to them that need what you have to share.
LL&P (as always)
Z
Ammit
10-11-2009, 01:34 PM
Well I have just been acused of scaremongering!!!
All I did was offer a link, I am not chaining people to chairs to force feed them the information..
morguana
10-11-2009, 01:44 PM
ammit one of my fav sayings is 'you can lead a horse to water, but cant make him drink' another is 'no good flogging a dead horse' ......sometimes people just dont want anyone to pop their little bubble....frustrating it is :wall:
bou x
My sympathies!
I often get "yeah yeah yeah yeah" while I'm explaining.
However, my mother is now refusing vaccines, and that's a result believe me!
My OH now believes, and takes colloidal silver.
Don't get in a panic about your nearest and dearest, they have to make their own decisions - but if the information is drip fed to them, they can make informed choices.
I am noted for promoting D3 and vitamin C in a few forums, and people are listening. Some folk have refused Tamiflu and Cervarix because of my 'drip-feeding'.
You can change the world 1 person at a time - good luck, don't give up :thumb_yello:
Vidya Moksha
10-11-2009, 01:53 PM
ammit one of my fav sayings is 'you can lead a horse to water, but cant make him drink'
and you can lead a man to slaughter, but you cant make him think.
Stargazer1965
10-11-2009, 01:57 PM
You're right they don't want to wake up.
They are happy watching X factor and EastEnders.
If you tell them things they don't want to hear you just **** them off and they even try to make fun of you. Twats. :thumbdown:
I've given up now :original:
The oncoming train feels better with your eyes closed.....:nono:
TheObserver
10-11-2009, 02:38 PM
Did any of you 'flip to consciousness' like a light switch because someone told you something?
Or did you slowly 'morph' your consciousness to your current thought patterns because the path you walked through life led you to this point?
To me awareness simply means 'exposure to information'.
And that's all you can do is expose people to information be it your opinion or facts you gathered and if their path leads to similar conclusions so be it,
if not so be it, you still made them 'aware'. :original:
Ammit
10-11-2009, 03:00 PM
I do find it disheartening, I wouldnt mind if they posed an argument amount the information or even looked at it from a different angle, but most just raise a hand and tell me im nuts or that they are just not interested.
I suppose I also have to look at it from there point of view.
waitinginthewings
10-11-2009, 05:28 PM
Ammit: I agree, its very frustrating when they don't even want to listen to what you have to say.
Interesting though, how they are quite happy to share something they are passionate about with us, & they expect us to listen to them & participate in the conversation. They are incapable however of giving us the same respect. Very one sided indeed.
I don't waste my time/energy on such people now.........I am happy to let them wallow in their ignorance. I just focus my energy on my own life & staying sane throughout all the changes.
There is plenty of info out there on the net, that cannot escape their attention, if they want to read it.
Spregovori
10-11-2009, 07:26 PM
Hi all
To spread the word and make people aware is such a hard thing to achieve.
Ammit
I have a blog...I localized it (language)...gathered data from variety of sources...wrote about stuff in a logical way...explanations, commentaries...step by step...with pictures, embedded videos, links to official and less official news pages...all in one place in our language...something I always wanted so I went and did it myself...
Now the language of the blog is a native tongue to a less than 2 million people...which means that number of visits was not that great..but out of those visits...the bounce rate of the blog was/is 73-75% and the comments are almost non existing.
So I stopped posting stuff on the blog about a month ago. It took me a lot of time...
I live in a small country...the word goes around quickly...if the media wants it to... I was hoping to slowly reach out to more and more people...but nothing happened. So after 226 days I stopped. I never even got an e-mail message from any of the readers....
I also comment on the web issue of our most emm biggest and "intellectual" news paper (you can comment under the articles)...and some people see the "truth" but are ignorant about it (do not care much..and make fun of it...) but the majority is blind and also there are people that directly oppose my comments and try to discredit me and they do in a extremely obvious way, like writing: USA No1. god save the USA, etc
This seems to be a common phenomena in the world. It can be very "sad" and extremely ungrateful to talk with people about possibilities (just possibilities), let alone the "facts" and I never even mention the ET subject..the whole debates are about politics, economy, social structure, global events, history...etc
I have reached a "conclusion" that it is far from worth it. Do not misunderstand this..my blog is not a Christmas three (no commercials on it). I am not in it for money. I dislike money.
People need to get a harsh lesson. While their asses are nice and warm they will not change a thing or care about truth even if you write, draw, read and sing it to them.
Even now I am watching the Brussels conference with PC and people in chat room behave like a bunch of retards...sorry but they do. They also did yesterday and they also did during the LA conference and it is just sad. I even recognize some of the nick names from the LA and the same names here now...making obscene, immature, stupid, insulting statements about the conference and people on it (including Bill and Kerry)
In all of places...one would expect that people interested in spending the weekend watching the live stream of a Ground Crew conference would show more "light".
Tango
10-11-2009, 07:54 PM
Honey, You don't worry about what others Do, Think out loud, or, say....
You, just DO IT... If you save just One Life... Just One... Its all worth it.
Trooly,
Tango
Well I have just been acused of scaremongering!!!
All I did was offer a link, I am not chaining people to chairs to force feed them the information..
Ammit
10-11-2009, 07:59 PM
Honey, You don't worry about what others Do, Think out loud, or, say....
You, just DO IT... If you save just One Life... Just One... Its all worth it.
Trooly,
Tango
Um, thanks sweety, good advice.
My wife asks why you called me Honey. LMAO:lol3:
Swanny
10-11-2009, 08:56 PM
Honey?? :naughty:
I was wondering that myself :lmfao:
Tango
10-11-2009, 09:26 PM
Every " body " is a Honey... Every " thing " is about LOVE...
And, that's a NICE come back sweety... If every ONE treated
Everyone with that kind of respect... Took a moment to of
THINKING instead of REACTING we would have a different
world... Wouldn't we... But, U go ahead N' stay with the
OLD ways... I ask You what does Honey imply.....?
Trooly,
Tango
Um, thanks sweety, good advice.
My wife asks why you called me Honey. LMAO:lol3:
Ammit
10-11-2009, 09:29 PM
Hi Tango, where I come from Honey is an endearment to lovely lady.
Tango
10-11-2009, 09:42 PM
You are one third My age... Honey is an endearment... If You have a little Boy You do not call him, Honey ? Really... If he should have a problem at school or with a friend; whereas, he Needs support... Just, what term of endearment would YOU use.
See, its Not what One has between their legs... Its what one has in that
gray matter between the EARS... And, they say 'what percentage' of gray
matter is used. Me I was Honey to Uncles and family, friends, cousin's etc.
Well, into My forties...
You want to wake up people to what...? And, they call U what...? and, Why?
Trooly,
Hi Tango, where I come from Honey is an endearment to lovely lady.
Stargazer1965
10-11-2009, 09:46 PM
Hi Tango, where I come from Honey is an endearment to lovely lady.
Tango is from the US also......I don't want to put words on Tango's paper but I think it's time our egos get thrown away.
We were put here to serve others before ourselves.....we turned into self serving wimps.
"What about me...Where's mine??...That's not fair"....you hear it all the time.
I struggle with this daily...to shed the ego that the whole world is centered around me.....and it does but we are all connected.
All one.....the good for one is the good for all.
So giving to the next person is really giving it back to yourself.
So is Honey....A blessing of nature
Blessings
Ammit
10-11-2009, 10:05 PM
You are one third My age... Honey is an endearment... If You have a little Boy You do not call him, Honey ? Really... If he should have a problem at school or with a friend; whereas, he Needs support... Just, what term of endearment would YOU use.
See, its Not what One has between their legs... Its what one has in that
gray matter between the EARS... And, they say 'what percentage' of gray
matter is used. Me I was Honey to Uncles and family, friends, cousin's etc.
Well, into My forties...
You want to wake up people to what...? And, they call U what...? and, Why?
Trooly,
OMG your 135 years old.
Lol, you do not have to explain yourself Tango my friend, its just a strange hard place over here, I just look at my 8 year old son and he knows i am there 100%, all loving daddy, i look at his friends and they usually appologise and come round for bbq`s.
Lets have a look, yup still a big hairy mass, lol.
I do understand fully what you are saying but you have to be so carefull over here otherwise you get a name and probably even a free stay in a local establishment that has next to your bed ensuite and a window with bars.
People dont seem to want to wake up, tv programs and fast food during the intervals are all that is required by some.
Ammit
Tango
10-11-2009, 10:06 PM
Swanny.... This one kinda, knocked My socks off... Here, I did My best,
with your back.... Knee...
For every Name on the Healing List... Think I care, care which is of what...
Maybe, I'm wrong... Maybe, I should consider THAT in doing the Healing of
this forum.... Well, that's a male... He doesn't NEED my help... He has balls.
Or, That sick child... If I try to HEAL them its about male; female....
Well, Now, I guess... I should question My self.... Maybe I should consider.
As, You have... My Intentions.
Trooly,
Tango
Honey?? :naughty:
I was wondering that myself :lmfao:
PilotSimone
10-11-2009, 10:32 PM
I spent 8 years heavily involved on debate boards (mostly parenting and political), so I understand your frustration. It doesn't feel good to be harshly rejected and criticized.
After many years of bantering back with my own attacks, I tried something entirely novel. :blush-anim-cl: I started responding to personal attacks with love and understanding. And this is when I really became effective.
Ultimately, I decided that my desire to reach people was more important than my desire to retaliate...and the insults began rolling off my back without much effort.
I posted for the lurkers. I was never going to change the minds of my opposition. That was never the point. I needed the opposition to supply the counterpoints so I could address them publicly.
So, I hope you won't give up on this. There are people who will consider your views if you present them in a loving and logical way. Do it for the lurkers. :thumb_yello:
Ammit
10-11-2009, 10:37 PM
I shall indeed keep trying to reach them but now in a different way, Thankyou.
At the end of it all, if I did not feel love and compassion for this human race then I dont think I would even bother to try.
Light Beyond
10-11-2009, 10:52 PM
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Anchor
10-11-2009, 10:58 PM
I do find it disheartening, I wouldnt mind if they posed an argument amount the information or even looked at it from a different angle, but most just raise a hand and tell me im nuts or that they are just not interested.
I suppose I also have to look at it from there point of view.
Ammit,
:thumb_yello:
Be assured that the universe salute's you and your efforts. It is a fantastic thing your are doing, but it can be a bit like pushing water up a hill with a rake. Everything happens for a reason though...
Take it one step at a time.
One breath at a time.
The light you bring will do its job eventually - and little matches start big fires.
Just keep soldiering on - but keep using your intelligence - review your actions - prioritize - question everything - become more efficient.
Every step you take, every word of truth that you utter which strikes a chord in the heart of another is a huge and worthy success. You only need to help one more person for your efforts to become worthwhile - but you will in fact help many.
Welcome to the law of allowance and the freewill of others!
A..
Stargazer1965
10-11-2009, 11:18 PM
I do find it disheartening, I wouldnt mind if they posed an argument amount the information or even looked at it from a different angle, but most just raise a hand and tell me im nuts or that they are just not interested.
I suppose I also have to look at it from there point of view.
I know how they feel....Sometimes it all can be overwhelming and strange.
Every now and then my brainwashing kicks back in and I say..NO WAY!!!
But in the end what can I say what's possible and what's not...My whole life has been a lie.
That's the hard thing for anyone to get their hands around.
The news we bring them tells them that everything they remember...everything they see...everything they believe is a lie.
Then you tell them it only existed because they believed it to be real....
Now that a "HERE"S JOHNNY" time with an axe at the door and a straight jacket in the wings.
Tango
10-11-2009, 11:19 PM
See, I really do need to consider... What is/was discussed... Because It Really
is about My Intentions. And, for the thoughts of others... The words that Rang were " My Wife Said." The woman behind the Man... Planted the thought...
To me, I consider animals; beings of planet Terra also... I just wonder... If, I do Any good...
Honey. Is a Keyword, She ' hit ' on. Honey, means sweet, to me. Loving intent. Honey is a Healer, of animals... And, humans...
I, hereby stand down from the Healing thread... Even, Swanny's Reaction...
knocked me WAY over... Here, I thought I helped him.... Whoa... apparently
I did spit.................................
FYI, I'm NOT upset... I, just really have to Realize. Minds...
See, I learned the body, was, just a generator, of electric to drive the
Consciousness... THINKING... Maybe... Its, ALL about Taco's N' Wieners. Bars
on a windows and doors... Not being able to call a male child Honey or a man.
Yes.... I Stand Down. Sorry, Karen...
I, am Sorry,
Tango
Ammit
10-11-2009, 11:26 PM
???? whooow, im lost , dont understand what is going on here, have i offended you with my replies Tango, if so I appologise. I realy dont understand what you are saying .
dolphin
10-12-2009, 12:24 AM
Um, thanks sweety, good advice.
My wife asks why you called me Honey. LMAO:lol3:
hahah.... LOL!!:lmao:
Ammit
10-12-2009, 12:28 AM
Actually, I take my appology back as i realise I havent said anything to offend.
Swanny
10-12-2009, 07:09 AM
Swanny.... This one kinda, knocked My socks off... Here, I did My best,
with your back.... Knee...
For every Name on the Healing List... Think I care, care which is of what...
Maybe, I'm wrong... Maybe, I should consider THAT in doing the Healing of
this forum.... Well, that's a male... He doesn't NEED my help... He has balls.
Or, That sick child... If I try to HEAL them its about male; female....
Well, Now, I guess... I should question My self.... Maybe I should consider.
As, You have... My Intentions.
Trooly,
Tango
Hey Honey no need to worry it was just a funny thing to read, made me laugh. :naughty:
I've never heard a man calling another man Honey, if you ever come to England becareful who you say that too :original:
My knee and back are doing great thx to your help, very much appreciated :thumb_yello:
morguana
10-12-2009, 09:16 AM
and you can lead a man to slaughter, but you cant make him think.
loved that one, havent heard it before,:original:
bou x
mudra
10-12-2009, 06:36 PM
Actually, I take my appology back as i realise I havent said anything to offend.
You really did'nt offend anyone Ammit.
Here .. this is for your wife ..
Tell her we foolish sweet souls from Avalon LOVE her too :)
http://www.all4kidz.co.nz/images/60420%20LT%20Pooh%20Hugging%20Piglet.jpg
Love always
mudra
mudra
10-12-2009, 06:42 PM
Ammit go and sow the seeds of Love but don't expect them to ripen in
everyone's heart at the same time ...
If you reach one .. know he will reach another and so on..
Don't take the entire burden on your shoulders.
When you give ..give freely..and be wise enough to expect nothing in return .
Love Always
mudra
Humble Janitor
10-12-2009, 10:24 PM
If people don't want to wake up, they don't want to wake up.
I don't have time to go around trying to "convert" people. Where I live, people know ******** when they smell it and they stand up against it if it's warranted. Where I come from, we are a little state with big balls.
I guarantee you most Vermonters will not support a mandatory vaccine.
Karen
10-12-2009, 10:46 PM
Tell people. Plant seeds. Walk away. No attachments to their response. Of course they will think you are full of it. They have been very well conditioned by mind control put into place from human's first day on this earth. We are not talking ten years or 50 years or 2 centuries - we are talking about "In the beginning". Your information destroys their very foundation. They need time to come to grips with it.
Plant the seeds of truth. Give them time to grow. Come back. Water them. Pull out the weeds. Walk away. Repeat. I've seen people convert to being more open over a year's time. Now maybe it is more sped up.
The first time someone gave me a copy of information from David Icke, it was so terrifying I threw it down, and tried to forget. But it wouldn't leave me alone. The door had been opened so I was awake to looking from confirmation or debunking of the info. That's when people become true believers when they go on a debunking mission ... and find the truth smack in their face.
Here's the key: once someone has "heard" something, they cannot "unhear" it.
GaiaLove
10-12-2009, 11:49 PM
I have made it my mission to awaken people and have done so successfully using the following formula. Generally, Jumping up on a soapbox to evangelize this topic will leave you feeling mocked and humiliated by knee-jerk rejectionists. This is because they’ll be very angry with you for tampering with their blinders, and rightfully so. Worse yet, you’ll be wasting your time.
To quote Marshall Master’s Motto, “Destiny comes to those who listen, and fate finds the rest.” is it in a nutshell. Fate will deal with the knee-jerk rejectionists, so you really only need to focus your energy, knowledge and love on those who listen. So how do you find them? That’s simple!
You find them by following your instincts and letting your inner guides lead you through the phenomenon of synchronicity. The universe uses this beautiful mechanism to connect us to events and other people in a wonderfully meaningful way.
When you follow your inner voice, synchronicity will drive the process. Be aware of what is happening, and you’ll soon encounter those who are actively looking for answers, even if they’re not sure of the questions.
After synchronicity connects you with them, they’ll appreciate your help in showing them a starting point for their own process of self-education.
Over time, finding these connections will become second nature to you. Within moments of meeting someone, you’ll just know. However, until you know that certainty within yourself, use simple, innocuous qualifying questions to determine their interest and comfort level. Here’s how it works.
Qualify Their Interest
Here are the three important things you want to learn about the other person:
1. Are they aware of emerging patterns in their environment and the world about them?
2. Are they comfortable with exploring cause-and-effect relationships?
3. Are they independent thinkers, willing to “look outside the box?”
lf you sense a natural awareness and curiosity in them, start with an awareness question such as:
“When was the last time within the last few months that you remember a 3-day period when the media was not reporting unusual weather, bizarre infrastructure failures and disturbing global trends?”
If they show no particular interest in the question or give a flippant answer, drop it. Push it, and they’ll soundly rebuke you. On the other hand, if their response evidences both awareness and concern, the next step is to determine their willingness to explore cause-and-effect relationships. Current events offer fertile ground for these kinds of qualifying questions. For example:
“Do you sense they possibility that there could be a connection between between the Earthquakes and Tsunamis in the South Pacific and the wild fires, flooding and droughts in Europe earlier this summer. Or do you think these are just random events with no connection whatsoever?”
If they absolutely reject the possibility out of hand, you’re dealing with a rigid thinker. They’ll usually have their own Plan A for whatever they encounter. Surviving 2012 is a Plan B proposition. Move along. Let them argue their dogma with the universe. You’ve got better things to do.
On the other hand, if you perceive a willingness to explore even the most tenuous cause-and-effect relationships you’re ready to ask your third and final qualifying question. You will want to know if they can they think outside the box.
Ask an open-ended question that will also help establish rapport, such as:
“Like you, I’ve been seeing a lot of troubling Earth changes, and making sense of the confusion is hard, because it seems that a lot of people like the confusion. I do not, and I looked elsewhere and learned that 90% of all the solar systems in our galaxy have multiple suns.
Many feel that our solar system is the exception to the rule, but the data says otherwise, and what I’ve learned by studying it has helped me to understand what’s really behind all these bizarre and troubling Earth changes.
Would you like to find out more about this?
At this point have them look over this site, Project Camelot or others, Eventually, they’ll find their way back to your doorstep, or not. If so, be prepared for some very serous questions. Do not pontificate. Rather, help them as the wise do, with direct answers to each of their questions. This way, their own curiosity will drive the process in a manner that is intuitive to them.
lucrum
10-13-2009, 06:18 AM
Something like the last couple posts, that's basically how I do things.
I tend to formulate myself in a more easy and "humoristic" way, instead of plain out telling. In most cases I've gotten responses at a later time which shows me they have done research and found some things to be true and/or meaningful to them.
If they want me to go more in-depth, they contact me. If they rather find out on their own, they'll do that. If they just aren't ready for a change of mind, well...keep sneak those seeds in and they'll come along eventually.
After some time doing this, I've come to learn what to look for in a person as to how willing he/she is to the presented material.
morguana
10-13-2009, 07:05 AM
slowly slowly chatchy monkey, as mudra and others have said sowing little seeds and then kick back and see what happenes....is a good and non confrontational way :original:
bou x
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