quake 10/12/09, solutions

[charioteer]

tomorrow there will be a magnitude 7.0 quake off the coast of Harbor Island, the Bahamas, at 9:33 AM EST. no one will be harmed. the purpose of this earthquake is for verification so that you will be receptive to working on organizing solutions to the worlds problems. the powers that be will work together with you to bring about realistic changes that we can come to a concensus on. there are many factors to consider. this thread will presently serve as the framework to do this. that is all.

good day,
charioteer

[lindabaker]

Please clarify. You stated "the purpose of this earthquake" and that is not logical. Did you mean the purpose of predicting this earthquake? Otherwise, it may be assumed that you are stating that the earthquake is is not natural, but deliberately caused.

[burgundia]

hmmmmm.....

[iainl140285]

Marked .. :nono:

[Ammit]

Ok, this last hour has been the most weired I have had in years. I am either about to have some sort of stroke, some one is in my head or the images I had flash through my mind are the reason you are here, my god, i hope its neither.

[Anchor]

tomorrow there will be a magnitude 7.0 quake off the coast of Harbor Island, the Bahamas, at 9:33 AM EST. no one will be harmed. the purpose of this earthquake is for verification so that you will be receptive to working on organizing solutions to the worlds problems. the powers that be will work together with you to bring about realistic changes that we can come to a concensus on. there are many factors to consider. this thread will presently serve as the framework to do this. that is all.

good day,
charioteer

Ok, so thats in like 2hrs and 15mins from now... and then tomorrow it should be on the web.

A..

{ok ok I cant do my clocks properly - D'Oh!}

[Ammit]

Is it realy, i got it wrong somewhere along the line, thought it was about mid day uk time.:shocked:

[Stargazer1965]

tomorrow there will be a magnitude 7.0 quake off the coast of Harbor Island, the Bahamas, at 9:33 AM EST. no one will be harmed. the purpose of this earthquake is for verification so that you will be receptive to working on organizing solutions to the worlds problems. the powers that be will work together with you to bring about realistic changes that we can come to a concensus on. there are many factors to consider. this thread will presently serve as the framework to do this. that is all.

good day,
charioteer

http://www.harbourislandguide.com/gmaps/harbour-island-gmap-fullsize.htm

Anyone have live earthquake data site??

[Stargazer1965]

Ok, so thats in like 2hrs and 15mins from now... and then tomorrow it should be on the web.

A..

Eastern Standard Time

14 hours or so

[Vidya Moksha]

yeah, anchor has his time zones mixed up a little,,still 14-15 hours to go (not sure of summertime changes) 2-3 pm UK time

[Ammit]

http://www.harbourislandguide.com/gmaps/harbour-island-gmap-fullsize.htm

Anyone have live earthquake data site??

Here you go..
http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

[Stargazer1965]

Here you go..
http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

Thanks Ammit

Nothing there in the last 5 years....would be HIGHLY unusual

[Ammit]

Yeah, to be honest I have a idea what is going on but want to wait and see if something happens, god forbid anyone gets hurt but just to see..

[Avid]

Stop this nonsense!
If someone can 'predict' something to such a degree, and it 'happens' - they must be in cahoots with the HAARP brigade.

Tonight, the clouds above us in the dark were literally vibrating, equidistant horizontal parallel waves breaking up the matt cloud formation for many miles - I saw at least 20 'waves' - to the horizon. Now that is NOT natural.

I took pictures but my camera is not great, neither are my photographic skills!
This was definitely not chemtrail stuff, it was overcast cloud breakage.
Will post pix if they work (I used a flash and an ordinary exposure).

Notwithstanding - there are very strange 'goings-on' in our skies, and I am quite angry that people can now mess with the weather so much it causes dreadful consequences globally. Watch the news....:lightsabre:

[Ammit]

Stop this nonsense!
If someone can 'predict' something to such a degree, and it 'happens' - they must be in cahoots with the HAARP brigade.

Tonight, the clouds above us in the dark were literally vibrating, equidistant horizontal parallel waves breaking up the matt cloud formation for many miles - I saw at least 20 'waves' - to the horizon. Now that is NOT natural.

I took pictures but my camera is not great, neither are my photographic skills!
This was definitely not chemtrail stuff, it was overcast cloud breakage.
Will post pix if they work (I used a flash and an ordinary exposure).

Notwithstanding - there are very strange 'goings-on' in our skies, and I am quite angry that people can now mess with the weather so much it causes dreadful consequences globally. Watch the news....:lightsabre:

Avid, thats what i am waiting for and if it happens then i dont think you are far wrong..

[tone3jaguar]

There are no fault lines anywhere near there.

[Ammit]

Avid, the strangest skies I have ever seen were saturday night, they were almost a tunnel shape with the sun shining on the edges and hitting areas i would have thought impossible, so, yeah strange things indeed.

[Christo888]

tomorrow there will be a magnitude 7.0 quake off the coast of Harbor Island, the Bahamas, at 9:33 AM EST. no one will be harmed. the purpose of this earthquake is for verification so that you will be receptive to working on organizing solutions to the worlds problems. the powers that be will work together with you to bring about realistic changes that we can come to a concensus on. there are many factors to consider. this thread will presently serve as the framework to do this. that is all.

good day,
charioteer

Well, first off having an eartquake in order to have us receptive is really the wrong approach!!!!! Just asking instead is more appropriate!!!

IF there are any ptw that are actually reaching out than who has power to make changes to the following subjects?:

Government
Religion
Education
Medical
Media
Science

There are many things that can be done relatively quickly...
Turn off the harmful microwave systems and begin changing the frequency's to healthy bands.

Publicly announce that all citizens must learn how to become personally responsible, and self-empowered. Further explain publicly the definition of a 'victim' and show how the social network has been grooming society to rely on a higher power other than an individual themselves.

There is a long list of legislation to be rescinded. Including ALL Executive Orders that MAY give away the power of 'WE' civil freedoms.

Remove the harmful food and water from the supply.

Empower Doctors to heal people not prolong a patients misery with synthetic drugs.

Release funds immediately to all familys and individuals to raise their standard of living. Raise the standard of living for everyone not just a select few who win because they are competitive or discovered a way to cheat the system by using the 'carrot on a stick' method of sucking the gullible into a financial nightmare!

Begin winding down the DEBT system of currency. Yes, take a loss, adjust the balances, and outlaw billing systems using algorithms that have 'laundering' schemes programmed into them... which are most of the systems!!
Banking, Communications, Medical billing, Utilities, etc...

I have a long list but I don't know who you are and an earthquake does not show you are on the same page!

Besides what are you providing as goodwill that you are not just taking ideas in order to profit from them yourself by sounding like you are doing the right thing for the people yet you have an agenda behind your back for your own secret gain at our expense for reaching back to you in support????????????

This game has been played many times... I doubt you have any real power or authority to do anything but lie, cheat, rob, and steal!!!!!!!

Let me buy you a cup of Joe and we'll talk about it!

[Ammit]

There are no fault lines anywhere near there.


Excuse my ignorance T3J but how do you know that??

[LightSurfer]

WOW, another prediction!!!

I don't pay attention to prediction any more and you'd know why...

T3J, i'm with you on that.

If something happen, i'm gonna have to call on HAARP or Marty McFly.

LS

[Ammit]

Lets say for argument sake, this person is actually for real. ok. how else could they prove beyond a shadow of doubt unless they do something no one else could.

Now if indeed an earthquake does hit in the place that has been told and at about that time, what then.

I bet most will go silent, shocked and gobsmacked at being proven wrong.

Then again, it could be a total load of $**** in which case you can say "I told you so"

[TheObserver]

The ring of fire goes around the pacific not the atlantic, i know that much geology.

[Stargazer1965]

Avid, the strangest skies I have ever seen were saturday night, they were almost a tunnel shape with the sun shining on the edges and hitting areas i would have thought impossible, so, yeah strange things indeed.

I know...In the Midwest US...the skies i saw roll in Thursday night were unnatural...In 44 years I had never seen a storm front like that.

[Stargazer1965]

Lets say for argument sake, this person is actually for real. ok. how else could they prove beyond a shadow of doubt unless they do something no one else could.

Now if indeed an earthquake does hit in the place that has been told and at about that time, what then.

I bet most will go silent, shocked and gobsmacked at being proven wrong.

Then again, it could be a total load of $**** in which case you can say "I told you so"

The guys new....I saw him for the first time today...

Lionhawk is new and he brings all kind of good energy....I get no read from this guy.

Anyone??

[conjuredUp]

Interesting second post. I'll give ya that.

[Ammit]

Certainly was i agree. Almost cryptic i thought but woke something in me.

[TheObserver]

I think he might be a teenager. He came in, made 2 big splash posts, threadstarters even, realized he has to clarify/defend his words and became suddenly shy.

[Ammit]

Yeah maybe, lol. We will see.

[Initiate]

Lionhawk mentioned a few days ago about the Akashic Records (Book of Life). I did some research and went to sleep 4 nights ago thinking about them and trying to Visualise The Library. I woke up early The next morning with a memory of a map of New Zealand and an earth quake pin point (just like on the news). I had no Idea of what time the earth quake was or would be but the vision was very strong. Late afternoon the next day there was an earth quake in the exact same position as in the vision but it was only 4.5 Magnitude and off shore. My own personal research says it is very posible to predict that something will happen but just not when eactly as time is very hard to pinpoint when outside of the 3rd dimension. To know the "when" one must either be involved in creating the event or have clear and accurate access to the Akashic Records.

I note, when a lot of the crop circles were happening with respect to the solar activity and solar events, I had a feeling that we were indeed getting a helping hand and that the helpers "ground crew" were being communicated with via the crop circles as a means to pinpoint in our 3rd dimension when a particular event was going to take place. I found it incredibly interesting that a predicated event like a large object about to hit the sun was suddenly diverted away from the sun. This lead me to the conclusion we have friends in high places that are guiding us through these earth changes. It appears earth quakes etc. are and can be linked to solar activity. Maybe the earth quake prediction is related to a solar flare expected to hit us?

[BROOK]

Yeah maybe, lol. We will see.

The 5 dollare entrance fee was probably part of the bet to see how many of us would fall for the gag. :lmfao:

[tone3jaguar]

Excuse my ignorance T3J but how do you know that??

I used to live about 70 miles from the Bahamas in South Florida. Trust me, there are zero fault lines in that area of the Ocean. The Bahamas are old coral reefs that have tidal sand built up on them. Nothing remotely volcanic there.

The Bermuda Triangle is very close to that area, but that has nothing to do with earth quakes. I can report that I was in South Florida not to long ago only about 15 miles from the Eastern Tip of the Bermuda Triangle and the energy is doing some strange things down there. I could swear that the sky looks different down there near that area.

[tone3jaguar]

Here is why trying to predict such things can result in fail, even if the prediction was dead on.

YouTube - Courtney Brown, Multiple Universes PART 1 of 3

YouTube - Courtney Brown, Multiple Universes PART 2 of 3

YouTube - Courtney Brown, Multiple Universes Part 3 of 3

[Tango]

Ain't gonna happen....


Trooly,


Tango

[GaiaLove]

Please....
http://www.studioscenes.com/mm/no-bs.jpg

[Christo888]

Does there have to be a fault line to have an earthquake????

I mean one of the main Earth chakras is on top of the Bahama's so of course there will be high energy there. I used to live down there... Florida that is... you can feel the underground generators vibrating??? All kinds of interesting and cool stuff going on underground down there!

Another main Chakra in BC just above Washington and another way over by Easter Island...

Has anyone ever heard of chakra shock???

[charioteer]

Greetings all. Thank you for your responses.

Where to begin. I want to talk to you all as simply as possible, in a down-to-earth manner, because it should already be assumed that I am talking to people who are aware and who "know"...that we are all one, among other things.

Let me take a minute to introduce myself. My name is Kyle and I am new to the forum. I used to post on forums like this, and also raw food forums (I used to be a raw foodist), but it has been awhile since I has been connected to internet communities. I remain interested in peace on planet earth and working to awaken others. As we know most people on this planet are still asleep. I am not a teenager, nor did I pay the 5 dollar fee to join; I got a free pass. The threads that I have started have a purpose, but I need your help to make things take off. I am not always that together, or organized in my life, but I hope that you'll bear with me, we can work together to create some realistic change.

I want to get a dialogue going. I want to begin discussing real world solutions and actions to take to actually manifest the changes that we seek. Christ888's post was an excellent example of this, although we must confront the challenge of "how" to make these sorts of changes and that is going to involve getting an energy going. There are no strict guidelines yet. The only thing that I can say so that you know I don't have an agenda is that I will be here to respond to posts so that you all can get to know me. Most of my posts will probably have to do with coordinating things together rather than presenting new information, though some of them may involve that. Once we have information, the task is to begin utilizing it through social activity in the real world (and on the internet) to bring change.

As I'm sure we also know, most of the people on this planet are asleep. One of the greatest challenges is in waking them up. If all secret information were released tomorrow, it would be too much of a shock for most people. There are always more details and things to consider and more details and things to consider. Even if the right medium were chosen to do this (release secrets), like television, the question remains who would organize it and what would be the motivation for the secrets to be given up other than just "its the right things to do". Running the planet is not easy, and its time for this responsibility to begin overflowing outward towards the people; in the new age, we will all be responsible for the state of our planet and therefore we will be able to make it function in the way "we" collectively decide.

There is a process that the earth goes through; things unfold as part of a plan. I believe nothing is by accident. The different forces on our planet interact to create a balanced system that when seen through God's eyes is seen to be complete. In order for us to become aware of the value of higher knowledge, there is a time in history where that knowledge must be kept from us. In order for us to be aware of the sacredness of life, there is a time in history when life must be pent against life. That time in history is now coming to a close, and in the future, human beings will realize the sanctity of life and there will be no more need for secrecy. We know this time to be the entry into the Fifth Age, the new age where all human beings will find their true power, which we have been entering into now and which will come to a crescendo on December 21st 2012 at 11:11 am Universal Time as our solar system passes through the Galactic Center.

The earthquake should happen, because I have asked them to. Know that if it does not, the tasks I have touched on still must be tackled. The powers that be do read sites like this. We have just entered a shift where the balance of power is changing and where the idea of a "New World Order" as this term is used by whistleblowers has lost much of its value to the minds of those in power.

Thanks you again for your posts. Please feel free to post any suggestions you may have, but know that I may not be able to answer all specific questions about myself or who I am at this time. I apologize for any uncertainty associated with this thread right now, but just know that it is necessary, and it is all right. Please tune into your intuition and bear with me while I am working out some more details on this project of Creating Realistic Solutions right now. You are Citizens of Planet earth, and we, together, are responsible for our fate. The balance is shifting on our planet, and it is becoming apparent in these times that the the true enemy we must face during this transition it not a certain group of people, but within ourselves. I encourage you all to continue your studying as you have been, and to incorporate into them empathy for those who have had to play the role of "they", the powers that be, as they during this latest shift are empathizing with you.

Keep you attention focused on what you want, what you know is right in your heart, and together, we will manifest it.

Namaste

charioteer

[Initiate]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am sure everyone here who reads and contributes to this forum can take it. Bring it on. Don't hold back. Please tell us what you know. Why would you direct anyone to cause an earthquake. How do you know that won't cause harm to anyone? What right do you have to mess with this stuff? This is probably why it won't happen. If any ET's are bound by the universal laws then they can't do this. I can understand triggering an earth quake to release preasure to lesson the likely hood of a major quake. Come on. To deliberately requast a quake to occur because you want to make a point? That kind of doesn't sit right.

[iainl140285]

:lmfao: Deary me:lol3:
Well Charioteer ... perhaps you should have 1. Took a little longer to get a coherent story together and 2. Asked one of the 'previous' readers of this forum what approach NOT to use.

What has your last post got to do with your opening post?
THEY tried to collect our energy before. They suceeded 1st time. It gets less everytime however.
WHY ARE YOU PUSHING THE AGENDA OF FORGIVNESS AND ACCEPTANCE TO THOSE WHO HAVE MASTERMINDED THE STATE OF THE PLANET TODAY?? :lol3: Covering ones back is a vibe im receiving ...:naughty:

WHen the time comes, they shall reap what they have sown:tongue2:

This forum has more or less been pulling and evolving in the same direction for a good while now. Distractions WILL fall by the way side:sneaky2:

[Anchor]

The guys new....I saw him for the first time today...

Lionhawk is new and he brings all kind of good energy....I get no read from this guy.

Anyone??

IMO this post is borderline ad-hominem.

Please its the message not the messenger that is important.

A..

[Anchor]

Keep you attention focused on what you want, what you know is right in your heart, and together, we will manifest it.

:thumb_yello:

That is the most important part.

The only other thing to add is to keep in the moment, what matters is now - be here now.

A..

[iainl140285]

:thumb_yello:

That is the most important part.

The only other thing to add is to keep in the moment, what matters is now - be here now.

A..

The message seems to be that From Now On We ALL Work together. THEY did not need us before (or so they thought) ... but THEY NEED us now.

Give us the reason Charioteer.

[Stargazer1965]

IMO this post is borderline ad-hominem.

Please its the message not the messenger that is important.

A..

A personal attack...not really

An observation by example....

And thanks Anchor...I learned a new word today...:lol3:

[Anchor]

And thanks Anchor...I learned a new word today...:lol3:

No worries :)

[Ammit]

I say, lets wait and see what happens today.
And if nothing does, then we have still gained a new friend on the forum and another voice to spread the word.

Ammit

[Reader]

1 Hour to go.............

The Mid Atlantic Ridge is fairly active quake area but it's so remote it doesn't affect the continents much.

The second deepest place on earth is adjacent to the Bahamas, where the Navy does lots of deep under water research.

Haarp?

[Ammit]

Bit more than that Reader, I make it 0820 EST at the moment.

[TheObserver]

5 minutes, EDT, not EST. I got confused yesterday about the forum software update thought it would be a 3pm my time but it was at 4 instead.

[iainl140285]

My gift to you all :

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

[TheObserver]

Surf's up!

[Reader]

9:46 on the east coast and all is well.......I think

[Ammit]

Try this one, you are looking for EST as stated at the start of the thread.

http://www.kb3kai.com/est-utc-time.php

[Stargazer1965]

9:46 on the east coast and all is well.......I think

The IRIS earthquake site shows no activity in that area....:sweatdrop:

[Ammit]

There is still 39 minutes left guys...

[Ammit]

The IRIS earthquake site shows no activity in that area....:sweatdrop:

That site lags by aprox 10 mins mate.

[Unified Serenity]

WHY ARE YOU PUSHING THE AGENDA OF FORGIVNESS AND ACCEPTANCE TO THOSE WHO HAVE MASTERMINDED THE STATE OF THE PLANET TODAY?? :lol3: Covering ones back is a vibe im receiving ...:naughty:

WHen the time comes, they shall reap what they have sown:tongue2:

This forum has more or less been pulling and evolving in the same direction for a good while now. Distractions WILL fall by the way side:sneaky2:

Iain, I understand what you are saying, and it is natural to say you reap what you sew for we all do. We have also all been shown mercy at one time or other in our lives and incarnations. If someone is going to go to jail for 75 years with no parole for some deed no matter what they do or how they change, then what is there to encourage them to change their path? The karmic debt many have built up in the ptw is immense. I personally do not believe they can get other's to pay their debt by manipulating their energy as some have said.

We want change and change will come, but it does not have to be catastrophic on a soul level. Each soul is priceless no matter the muck and mire it has gotten trapped in and the deeds it has done. Who among us is without fault in harming 1 soul? If each is priceless, than no matter if you harm one or millions of souls your debt is unpayable as well. I will not cast the first stone at them. I will lift them up to the creator, to try to reach that divine spark within each soul whom the creator made, and seek their awakening to the truth of who each of us really is in the universe.

I truly believe that if we offer them a loving opportunity to change for their own eternal good that we will reach some of them before they must deal with a debt they cannot imagine. My grandmother had a saying that took me a very long time to completely understand, and that was, "There for the grace of God go I".

I want this 3d existence to change, for the money system to die, and for us to live with one another and upon earth in balance with each having an abundant life on every level. Hate and revenge no longer sit with me. I will also say being a compliant doormat deluded by false religious propaganda also no longer sits with me, thus while I cannot make anyone else change, I will personally walk a changed path.

Much love and Divine light to you and all,


Unified Serenity

[TheObserver]

I'm assuming he said EST accidentally since the switchover hasn't occurred yet.

[Ammit]

The time is NOW...

[Stargazer1965]

The time is NOW...

And Passed.....:sweatdrop:

[Ammit]

Oh well, I think deep down we knew it wouldnt happen. Its a shame this sort of thing has to happen, be nice to see some genuine things though.

[Tango]

More to do.? Another, Avalon drama moment has passed like Gas... DA DA DA DUMB....

Every one in the UK can go back to holdn' your Johnson; talk'n abt how hairy U are. Geez.......... Actually, gave a Blow by Blow time count down.

DA DA DA DUMB......... ahahahah..... Damn Fish... I smell Damn fish again.

[iainl140285]

Iain, I understand what you are saying, and it is natural to say you reap what you sew for we all do. We have also all been shown mercy at one time or other in our lives and incarnations. If someone is going to go to jail for 75 years with no parole for some deed no matter what they do or how they change, then what is there to encourage them to change their path? The karmic debt many have built up in the ptw is immense. I personally do not believe they can get other's to pay their debt by manipulating their energy as some have said.

We want change and change will come, but it does not have to be catastrophic on a soul level. Each soul is priceless no matter the muck and mire it has gotten trapped in and the deeds it has done. Who among us is without fault in harming 1 soul? If each is priceless, than no matter if you harm one or millions of souls your debt is unpayable as well. I will not cast the first stone at them. I will lift them up to the creator, to try to reach that divine spark within each soul whom the creator made, and seek their awakening to the truth of who each of us really is in the universe.

I truly believe that if we offer them a loving opportunity to change for their own eternal good that we will reach some of them before they must deal with a debt they cannot imagine. My grandmother had a saying that took me a very long time to completely understand, and that was, "There for the grace of God go I".

I want this 3d existence to change, for the money system to die, and for us to live with one another and upon earth in balance with each having an abundant life on every level. Hate and revenge no longer sit with me. I will also say being a compliant doormat deluded by false religious propaganda also no longer sits with me, thus while I cannot make anyone else change, I will personally walk a changed path.

Much love and Divine light to you and all,


Unified Serenity

I totally agree:thumb_yello:
I expect no apology from them. Nor do I request one. My hand is extended to ALL who require it regardless of who they have been. In fact, anyone who reads this who needs me, just ask. :original:

However, there is a difference between them coming to us with their tails between their legs looking for us to bail them out, which we no doubt will, and them TELLING us that we're all in this together now so we MUST help each other, and this is the direction we're going to do it in:nono:

I have seen THEM on here, building up scenarios, building up people with bulls**t events with the only purpose of distraction and diverting/STEALING PEOPLES energy.:mad3: It is one of the few few things in life that boils my blood.

If they are not willing to change their ways, then they are on their own. Create problem - Present Solution - Fool the People. Read the title of this thread, they claimed to make a problem(earthquake) to spur US into a solution.:roll1:

Anyways. Im done guys.
Peace out
Iain

[Ammit]

LOL, bit grouchy today arnt we? Put your teddy back in your pram and stop being rude. That was a comment I would expect from a child.

[gscraig]

My fellow Avalonians

For you are spending/focusing energy on an event per someones post, and that in itself would be the trigger. YOU could manifest it by thinking about it, looking for it, and waiting for it. It may not be your intent, but indeed your focus will create the intent.

We should no longer bother with predictions, other than read or hear them and place them in our bag of "hmmm's??".

There is a real time agenda unfolding that could use your focused energy of intent, and that would be the Swine Flu. Foresee it unsuccessful, and more people rebuking it.

Hopefully my continued attempts (Anchor) to have a Swine Flu subject field with confirmed reports of real time actions/activity around the world will be created to inform and prepare us for an actual agenda in motion, not some prediction or another half-hearted message from the long forming lines of internet whistleblowers. Are you really awake?

[charioteer]

Greetings all.

Thank you again for your posts.

It appears as though the quake has not happened. Although there were five mild quakes in a row this morning though not in the Atlantic http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html.

I was having doubts myself. I can take any heat about it. This was not a trick;or problem-reaction-solution. I am an ordinary person.

I am in close conjunction with them. They are watching me. It appears as though they have decided not to go through with the plan as I set forth. This is forgivable, and perhaps it would have drawn too much attention for them right now anyways. People don't want to step out of their comfort zones too fast; they are people too. Let downs happen.

The reason this thread is to provide a solid link between the so call "us" and the so called "them". The reason for the quake would have been to confirm this more concretely, as if it had happened you wouldn't have doubted at all what I have said/will say. I remain confident that the people on this forum are intelligent enough to still believe what I have said, and that this thread can still serve as a bridge to give ideas and support for the causes we have in front of ourselves in these times. They are reading, closely in every post I make in this site, and they are "working with" me to help bring about changes. Ideas posted on this thread, and on this forum, may be taken into consideration now more than you think.

Beautiful post, Unified Serenity. The people in power are our brothers and sisters, just a bit removed from us right now. We all incarnate in all different sorts of roles. In these times, the challenge is going to be to overcome the darkness within ourselves. This includes Us. It includes all of us.

Thanks for reading.

charioteer

[Tango]

I'lll second THAT.... N' keep the drama for your household. No more time
count downs... Ramp'n it up... Please, enough with the PA Drama.

I'd have to ask the same thing... Are you really awake ?





My fellow Avalonians

For you are spending/focusing energy on an event per someones post, and that in itself would be the trigger. YOU could manifest it by thinking about it, looking for it, and waiting for it. It may not be your intent, but indeed your focus will create the intent.

We should no longer bother with predictions, other than read or hear them and place them in our bag of "hmmm's??".

There is a real time agenda unfolding that could use your focused energy of intent, and that would be the Swine Flu. Foresee it unsuccessful, and more people rebuking it.

Hopefully my continued attempts (Anchor) to have a Swine Flu subject field with confirmed reports of real time actions/activity around the world will be created to inform and prepare us for an actual agenda in motion, not some prediction or another half-hearted message from the long forming lines of internet whistleblowers. Are you really awake?

[Reader]

Charioteer, who are "They"?

[burgundia]

Greetings all.

Thank you again for your posts.

It appears as though the quake has not happened. Although there were five

i guess you got your 5 minutes....

[charioteer]

Christo888, those are all great ideas, but how to implement them? Who would announce that all citizens should become empowered? Obama? Something on the news, or the history channel? What would the incentive be for them to tell the masses that they have been "victims" to the very media system they created? Would announcing something like this wake people up too fast?

Regarding the debt system, do you study economics? Are you well versed in knowing what is going on with it? How do we wind it down, how do we prepare people with the possibility of bringing on a gold standard? What laws would have to be created to bring our financial system under control, how could it be done? Are you well versed enough in politics?

For now suffice to say that they is the powers that be, the PTB. That will do for now.

What would you all do about the crisis between Palestine and Israel, the war in Iraq, the Taliban in Afghanistan? What about the vaccines. If their previous logic has been survival of the fittest, then part of the rationale for "keeping the population under control" has been just that, "keeping the population under control". Overpopulation is a problem. Is killing the solution? No.

How do we awaken others, and the masses in general? By what means do we create an atmosphere here on earth so that we can all, those who have been in power and those who have been under control, awaken in the new age? What about releasing the 911 truth? When should this be done? How and when should it be released so as not to create too much of a shock for the average person?

They want us to wake up, because it serves them, because awakening is better than pursuing worldly power. The old paradigm, power is real, is out, and the new paradigm, real is power, is in. They want us to wake up, we want the masses to wake up, and We want Us, Ourselves, to wake up. Do you want to?

charioteer

[Vidya Moksha]

I was going to keep quiet..but hey..
Charioteer. Wow. wow. :shocked:

what would YOU do?

I suggest reading the fora would be a good start.

If you have 'power' why try and create an earthquake as opposed to doing some good? :nono:

Enjoy Avalon.

[charioteer]

And yes they are watching me. And yes the ideas generated here will be taken into consideration by them. That is real.


I've already had my 15 minutes, in the past, and then some.

They want us to wake up. You say you want change. They can help us make it happen. You can bring your ideas and understanding of them here, or you can critique me. The choice is yours.

[Ammit]

This is a start of what I would like to see:

I want to see the worlds hungry being fed. The worlds sick being healed.
I want to see a world where all are equal. I want to see no more wars.
I want to see laughter where there were tears. Love where there is none.
I want to see no more money or debts, a free world, working together.
No more greed, no more cruelty, no more rule, no more pain.
A world, where a child can grow, and learn without suffering.

A chance for the human race to evolve without being destroyed.

Ammit

[charioteer]

Vidya, earthquakes happen all the time. Having someone predict the exact time of a quake would have stirred things up to create change. They use quakes among other things to do "good"; having someone neutral who is between to forecast something like a quake would have drawn attention to wake people up. Not everyone believes they create the quakes. Coming on here with an uncompromising attitude helps to show that there is work to be done, that writing flowery language on forums and watching whistleblower testimonies is not enough.

Yes, it would have been a wow. And thank you, I will enjoy Avalon.

[Initiate]

There is a devine plan to awaken all of us from the inside out. No one person, group or organisation can do that. Every soul has its own plan to do this. No stone will be left unturned. No one will be left behind. Those that have awakened already will serve to assist the awakening of those that are more heavily buried in the sub creation. Indeed it will reach a point where it will spread like wildfire. Kind of like pop corn popping in a kettle on an open fire. The heat is being turned up. pop..... pop... pop.... pop pop pop pop pop...... When enough of us have awakened then change can be effected. At this point we will be from the heart abiding by the universal laws. No one person or group will lead us as we will be lead from the heart.

I see then what you are saying, at this point what would we want for our world? If we were all living by the universal laws then we would want to right the wrongs done to our people of all races. Gaia would also need our love.

1. Cure disease, famine, inequality etc.
2. Effectively deal with polution
3. Make use of free energy devices.
4. Remove the monetary system. If every one is living from the heart then we will do our best for our fellow citizens of earth and beyond. If we know this then we will have no need for monetary rewards. we will all lend our gifts and talents to the job at hand with love. We will trust in the fact that we are doing this and by giving our all we will receive and have all our needs met. Any imperfection of the mind or body will be healed through light medicine. We will then be free to do the job for which we were created. What ever that may be it must be glorious as what has come before has been an amazing journey and all preparing us for the new dawn.

"With all respect"

[iainl140285]

First off why the change of heart? Did they just realise hey we're going to miss the boat when it comes?:wink2:
Welcome aboard.

I agree you cant just blow all this at people at once. It would be de-stabalising.
First let go of your control. Stop programing the people. Stop the symbology.

Get rid of oil and gas use first of. Lets stop destroying Earth for the sake of business. This alone would revolutionise the whole planet. Get the affordable energy systems out en masse to EVERYONE. It is possible. I know they/we all of us could do it IF we desired. And I dont mean sat and wished for it, I mean roll up our sleeves and get the work done. This would re-align a large percentage of the pop. to be more susceptable to 'new' ideas and revelations.
People currently work for energy. Get rid of this and we can evote more time to ...

Then we can address food and climate issues. Lets stop poisoning people with chems. :nono: Its ridiculous. Every man/women and child on this earth could be fully nourished IF we worked to it. FACT! Share the wealth. WE ARE ALL EQUAL. Lets level the playing field.

After these things educate the population with nothing but the TRUTH. Not bullsh*t truth - ACTUAL FACTS that pander to no specific religious beliefs/colours/creeds. Only the truth. Where we came from. Why we're here. teach people how to respect each other and protect the earth.

If ET s involved, get them in their. :lol3: Lay ALL the cards out on the table at this point. We are all responsible. By this stage the pop. will have grown enormously in acceptance and spiritual matters. There may be several things that wont even need to be said. lobal awaeness WILL come.

Science. Let science be what it was meant to be. Do not stunt its growth by distracting fantastic minds with sh*t about mating rituals of flies!:lol3: Let REAl science flourish. (Perhaps this all ready has behind closed doors and we were not allowed to see .....)

The point is, WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE ... VERY VER SOON. Start at the basics, and the minds will come together naturally.
I expect the correct decision TO be made.

[Tango]

N' Please stop the Focking Drama... We got big hairy guyz, just waiting to

over react... They could be scatch'in themselves N' farting... Your messin'

with their routine...

Soooo, this is the way U like entering a forum... Sumpin' smells fishy... To me.


Trooly,

Tango


" Now act all shy N' sheet......"

[Dantheman62]

Blossom Earthquakechild

[Tango]

Beautiful.... Perrrrrrfect..... Maybe.... Beyond that...

I need to go laugh at some Humor... Listen to som Music

Sing'n " I've got the music in me..." OR doing the "Tango"

Ya'know Really important Stuff...

Sniff; Sniff... Damn Fish, again... Nother One...

Blossom Earthquakechild

[Ammit]

Beautiful.... Perrrrrrfect..... Maybe.... Beyond that...

I need to go laugh at some Humor... Listen to som Music

Sing'n " I've got the music in me..." OR doing the "Tango"

Ya'know Really important Stuff...

Sniff; Sniff... Damn Fish, again... Nother One...


Lmao

[charioteer]

Thanks for the responses Initiate, Iain, and Ammit.

I think one thing would be to get more people to watch something like this as a wake-up call: YouTube - The Legend of Atlantis - It´s Time to Wake Up - Part 1 of 25

I also think that announcing people to be self-empowered is a great idea. Though he may not be perfect, having the President of the United States announce a message like this, with good intention, would be a start.

[burgundia]

Yes, a nice legend...i saw it some time ago....

[Ammit]

Umm, food for thought.

[Christo888]

Christo888, those are all great ideas, but how to implement them? It can start with media, script, play, screen, etc., writers. What to write into the media is another discussion later. Who would announce that all citizens should become empowered? Obama? Absolutely no Obama what so ever!!!!! He is not qualified to do such a thing. No president is. Leaders breed followers.... Something on the news, or the history channel? Every media format and outlet over time can convey the tools of empowerment... and it does not have to be presented in a shockingly way, it can be done very easily and without breaking down or totally interrupting the current system in a destructive way. Actually, you may be surprised by the response and find that transitions into an empowered system for society can be accomplished but the existing system has maxed out because there is no more room to stash the fraud!!! What would the incentive be for them to tell the masses that they have been "victims" to the very media system they created? Funny way to present this exact dilemma... the incentive is not for those in power and control... it is their dilemma not necessarily ours. Their dilemma... they loose the power and control they currently have, it will not be done any other way. The more anyone tries to hold on to something that was never their's to own the farther down the rabbit hole that structure will go while those who do not seek power and control will rise above that structure and swallow it hole... Black Hole that is! So Power and Control by the energy it beholds implodes within itself by itself... those in power and control and continue that frame of mind also stay within that implodeing energy and to let go of it is their escape. Would announcing something like this wake people up too fast? It would not be an announcement, it is a process and one that takes time to comprehend especially after all the generations of Rote versus Knowledge. It also entails removing the current 'victim' tabloid verbiage, that depresses the emotional body to create physical habits and addictions, from virtually every public 'stream.'

Regarding the debt system, do you study economics? No... economics are man made calculations for a man made power structure that keeps the top happy and the bottom a support for the top. Remove the top by raising the entire bottom support to its highest level possible to swallow up the class divisions. Are you well versed in knowing what is going on with it? No...I am not well versed because being so deep into it keeps one deep into it, the current economic system has always been flawed and always will be. It only remains so because of control structures that release pressure at many others expense. And then recycle the misery all over again using HOPE as a way to spring it back into growth. How do we wind it down, how do we prepare people with the possibility of bringing on a gold standard? Looks like a pretty good start right now... but no one said the gold standard is the way to go... that opens the door for just switching the power structure over to another group of those who already have their fair share of gold... so no no gold standard, it just remains a neat commodity. What laws would have to be created to bring our financial system under control, how could it be done? Are you well versed enough in politics? Actually, as long as the current system has somewhat of a framework fine for the meantime, but continuing to create laws with the current system will not work, no thank you. And actually creating laws is interfering with empowerment and personal responsibility... Politics and Laws will atrophy over time through the raising of as many groups awareness as possible, sorry for all those in power... go enjoy your life but without the aphrodisiac of control over others for personal value. Like a drug withdrawal i'm sure there will be just as much time needed to adjust to not controlling as the adjustment for being personally responsible and the practice it takes to learn self empowerment held within a balanced understanding of all considerations herein.

For now suffice to say that they is the powers that be, the PTB. That will do for now.

What would you all do about the crisis between Palestine and Israel, the war in Iraq, the Taliban in Afghanistan? What about the vaccines. If their previous logic has been survival of the fittest, then part of the rationale for "keeping the population under control" has been just that, "keeping the population under control". Overpopulation is a problem. Is killing the solution? No.

How do we awaken others, and the masses in general? By what means do we create an atmosphere here on earth so that we can all, those who have been in power and those who have been under control, awaken in the new age? What about releasing the 911 truth? When should this be done? How and when should it be released so as not to create too much of a shock for the average person?

They want us to wake up, because it serves them, because awakening is better than pursuing worldly power. The old paradigm, power is real, is out, and the new paradigm, real is power, is in. They want us to wake up, we want the masses to wake up, and We want Us, Ourselves, to wake up. Do you want to?

charioteer

Not that you were actually asking me to answer you in specifics but a few comments for discussion sake I couldn't pass up!!!:original:

The bottom line is that the decision for waking up does not belong to tptw and it is not even their responsibility!!!!

The tools for waking up the planet are spread all over the place and no one group will ever have control or decision power over that ever again...:thumb_yello:

The current power structure does not have to be used nor do the people in power or authority have to be consulted... sorry it is not up to anyone in current authority as to what we will or can do. Any person awake will do on their own what they perceive is their part and no permission will ever be sought!!!!

Actually, no media outlet has to be involved, and those in power have no power!!! But anyone can participate in change the more the merrier, and the change does not include people who want power!!!

Besides the real change is not going to be discussed on a forum.:lmao::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol:

Can I buy you a cup of Joe?

[Ammit]

More to do.? Another, Avalon drama moment has passed like Gas... DA DA DA DUMB....

Every one in the UK can go back to holdn' your Johnson; talk'n abt how hairy U are. Geez.......... Actually, gave a Blow by Blow time count down.

DA DA DA DUMB......... ahahahah..... Damn Fish... I smell Damn fish again.

Ha ha ha

Whow, someone is ringing the Admirals Doorbell, Maybe I need to get my head AGL and Alert 5. Get my ass in gear and get this Turkey up and chase this Whiskey Delta down. Make myself Warm Fuzzy.Throttle Back Tango and check your TACAN, you may find you are not alone...Honey!

Its not only aviators who get Dhoby marks.

Sneaky beaky is in pursuit maybe I will forgive you Yoyo and be your Sea Daddy.Im going now before I start Gonking besides I can clean my crest, I still wear mine..

Ammit

[Tango]

That's RIGHT. And, always check yor '6'. There's always Bad guyz. N' yeah.
Its Now for someone younger to Kill them... Warm and Fuzzy works... Honey,
is Sweet... I cried, and Cried when One of Ours didn't come back. I really
cried for his/her family... Son's NEED to be called Honey... Too. Lima Ocsar
Victor Echo is what works the BEST. Just sooo U know I can scratch My
Balls too; But, hunny makes them better... Faster, 2.8 Mach to 15 Mach.
AGL always works... Got U... 5 X 5... I hope can seee Me now... Talley Ho

Trooly,


Tango


Ha ha ha

Whow, someone is ringing the Admirals Doorbell, Maybe I need to get my head AGL and Alert 5. Get my ass in gear and get this Turkey up and chase this Whiskey Delta down. Make myself Warm Fuzzy.Throttle Back Tango and check your TACAN, you may find you are not alone...Honey!

Its not only aviators who get Dhoby marks.

Sneaky beaky is in pursuit maybe I will forgive you Yoyo and be your Sea Daddy.Im going now before I start Gonking besides I can clean my crest, I still wear mine..

Ammit

[Anchor]

Besides the real change is not going to be discussed on a forum

Confused - please elaborate.

A..

[Ammit]

What?, I believe we can make a real change with a forum, with this forum. The more that know, the more can be informed and the more informed is more souls saved. Has to work....

[Ammit]

That's RIGHT. And, always check yor '6'. There's always Bad guyz. N' yeah.
Its Now for someone younger to Kill them... Warm and Fuzzy works... Honey,
is Sweet... I cried, and Cried when One of Ours didn't come back. I really
cried for his/her family... Son's NEED to be called Honey... Too. Lima Ocsar
Victor Echo is what works the BEST. Just sooo U know I can scratch My
Balls too; But, hunny makes them better... Faster, 2.8 Mach to 15 Mach.
AGL always works... Got U... 5 X 5... I hope can seee Me now... Talley Ho

Trooly,


Tango


I will hold your 6, no worries.

[Christo888]

Confused - please elaborate.

A..

The change we have in our heart isn’t written down, and if the change we knew in our heart were written down then that could be planned against by tptw in order to divert or counter. Tptw do not need our assistance to figure out what to do with a system they built to control. And if tptw wanted to help make a change then they can read and discover exactly the same stuff we all did. The difference is, what information is needed by an individual to turn on the light bulb within themselves to see what has been done, and what needs to be undone.

As long as ‘they’ are busy … (distracted :lol3: ) holding onto the power they think they have then real change can happen behind the scenes within each ‘fragment of the whole’ according to the vibration that energizes/raises the awareness of each. Any fragment of the whole that raise awareness fuels the heightened awareness availability to any other fragment of the whole. There is no one higher gifted fragment than another as all have the same whole potential embedded within, as each of us fragments have different aspects to clean up and refresh through the infinite experience and perception field we grew up within.

How does one discuss on a forum that which cannot be explained once awareness turns on within each in there own timing which then adds back into the whole raising it up a little more. How we got in this mess was through the removal of empowerment and awareness replaced with victimhood by presenting a perceived higher power outside of ourselves to rely on and worship to gain favor with.
Unwinding the labyrinth, polishing the ‘diamond prism’ (being) to refract the brilliance, is going to be a process…

Hence, "It isn't about using discernment. It is about using extreme discernment," with a strategy.:thumb_yello:

Actions speak louder than words… Focused intention for the highest good of all (which may not have words for expression) within the principle of Harmony and Balance is an action and creates change. Followed by the Principle of Allowance to work within the current circumstances to bring about the most advantageous position for the betterment of us all however that may transpire… real Faith is in knowing through an enlightened realization of self-awareness of us all will manifest in TIME.:original:

[Christo888]

What?, I believe we can make a real change with a forum, with this forum. The more that know, the more can be informed and the more informed is more souls saved. Has to work....

Yes absolutely... I defined what I meant a little better in my last post.

[GaiaLove]

tomorrow there will be a magnitude 7.0 quake off the coast of Harbor Island, the Bahamas, at 9:33 AM EST. no one will be harmed. the purpose of this earthquake is for verification so that you will be receptive to working on organizing solutions to the worlds problems. the powers that be will work together with you to bring about realistic changes that we can come to a concensus on. there are many factors to consider. this thread will presently serve as the framework to do this. that is all.

good day,
charioteer

Charioteer, Welcome to Avalon. Since you did ask for solutions I will offer my 2 cents

First off, when joining a forum as this one and making your first post a vague prediction/warning, is not going to get the results you hope for. You have been a member for 4 days and have sacrificed all credibility IMO.

Secondly, Your tone in your statement is one of arrogance and will not be met with positive input from most people here.

And if it is your true desire to engage with us on positive exchanges of ideas for a better world you will need to end the deception and speak the truth. i.e. Who are “they” and what is your affiliation with TPTB.

If you are truly interested in what you say, cut the c*ap and talk to us plainly. There are many false prophets these days, predictions are coming weekly theses days. The ground crew are laughing at them all as not one has proven to be true in the slightest degree.


The earthquake should happen, because I have asked them to.
If you want to reestablish your credibility explain this statement in detail please

[BROOK]

Just out of curiosity...has the time passed? did we have the earthquake?

Hay..I would have to go back and look..but I predicted an earthquake here in California about 3 or 4 months ago...right here on the forum..I was posting and I got this feeling and looked up at my china hutch....and wondered if we had ever strapped it to the wall..because that is what you have to do with heavy furniture here...so right in the middle of the post I stated that this may sound funny but I think we're going to have a quake...totally unrelated to the post I was doing

Anyway...later that day...yep....4.5 magnitude.

Everyone wanted me to pick some lotto numbers :lmfao:

just thought I'd share that :naughty:

[no caste]

hi charioteer -

It's kind of weird (IMO) to ask for solutions to a fake problem: quake 10/12/09. The real problem in that area is wealthy people evading taxes. (Hey, I like Sean Connery and Michael Jordan.... but c'mon.) Isn't there also an underwater military base around there, 'Underwater Area 51?

Those are problems.

Anywho, the PTB (we call it PTW here) are varied. Are they rabbits with long ears, floppy ears, with spots, black, white, grey, dyed for Easter, wild, winter, summer, dwarf, mean, gentle - and that's only the vegans. To say We, The PTB (whatever you said: use your minds! yeah, that was it) - OR SOLVE PROBLEMS THAT WE MADE in my mind the lot is fired due to overgrazing.

But, if I had advice, I'd say walk around main street, get out of the limo, talk to a cab driver (very astute political views here), clean your own house for a bit, give a bum a fiver, figure out what's wrong with the legal system and hope for the best.

YOU'RE FIRED!

[Carmen]

Damn!!:wall:Did I miss it?:tears:

[charioteer]

Hi. Ok, first of all, allow me to apologize.

I know that I came in with an attitude. I did this because I could not think of any other way and so I decided to do it and let the chips fall where they may. This was not meant to frighten you. Had the earthquake happened, I know most of you would have been shocked, and perhaps, a bit too shocked.

You could think of this thread as a mixture of thinking like you all think and the PTB; "change through chaos". If the quake had happened you might have been alarmed but you would get over it, and it would have incited you to respond. You would have thought about things in more more real world terms. No one has ever predicted the exact time and location of an earthquake and had it go through, that I am aware of.

They I do not have a name for other than PTB. I have had a great influence over them for awhile now and have been under surveillance. The reason for this is something that I inadvertently implanted into their thought stream through my actions. I am under surveillance. And it is not easy. I can not go into any more detail other than that except that what I "inserted" began small and they began showing it to higher officials of freemasonry, etc. It began with freemasons, normal people in my neighborhood.

All I have to do is type something on my computer and they see it. I can open up a doc to speak to them. They see the screen as I do. When I said the earthquake should happen because I asked them to, I mean that I have them in check so to speak and they are willing, to some degree, to heed my advice as to what to do to begin closing the gap between the PTB and the P (the people). In the future, the people will have the world; but not all TBTB will vanish from the earth, many/most of them will still be here, in the same bodies.

After the quake didn't happen, I told them, "That's ok, just make some more mild quakes at least it will give a hint that there is some validity to this. This might be better for you anyways than a specific time and location because it won't draw too much attention." As it happens, there were nine mild quakes on the 12th in a row http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html.

Again I apologize for coming on so strong. I did not think that there was another way. Once again the reason would have been to create a connection even though it would have been a shock. Anyone who is searching for alternative theories can come to a website like this. The connection, they have decided, would have been too strong.

Many on forums like these believe that things are in divine right order, that we will manifest the change we need through fate, so to speak. I want to tell you that there is a plan for us, and that there is a divine order, but that we must work to create the right future because the future is not set. Things will not "just" fall into place, but rather, things will fall into place, because we will work so that they do. I don't want to overburden you too much but I want to wake you up; Not everything will come together by itself and we need to start thinking in real-world terms to really organize solutions for change. We may end up working with the current power system to change it. If you believe it will be overthrown, when will it be "overthrown"? How will it be "replaced"? The paradigm systems may be overthrown but we may end up basing some of the new system on the current system. As to when and how this will happen I cannot answer these questions right now but know that this will involve all of us, both the powers that be, and yourselves, the beings that have power.

I am here to get you to start thinking. Even if it takes an extra cup of coffee to stomach that you really have an influence over how things will play out. The future is not set. But we can move towards a better world. This will involve bits and pieces of all of the things that you have read, but we will have to work for it. You will have to really use your mind to put yourself in their position, they can do the same and put themselves in your position, so that we can ultimately come together. We don't want vaccines, we don't want a shadow government, and we don't want secrets. I believe, as I'm sure you do and has been said before, that it is our destiny to go the stars.

Thank you again for reading. To clarify once more, I am just a normal person. I realize that I could I could be speaking more specifically but one of my primary objectives is to get the ground crew to apply information that they have already learned. Take all the things you have read and realize right now that it is your decision what to do with it; you are in this moment, the ever-present, and you have all you need to do your part of changing the world. There is nothing to fear. The clues as well as the answers are right there, in your mind. I am not asking for you to give me a lot of posts in response to my thread, I am only asking you to realize now that the big boys are not as big as you think, and that you cannot project your own inner darkness onto them forever. The true battle that is being played out is in your mind, and the true darkness to be overcome is right there, in your very own mind. There is really only One Being who needs to receive this message. Knowing this message, and understanding it, is part of our journey into the new era.

Namaste
charioteer

[no caste]

I don't believe you came on either strong or frighteningly. It is just kind of silly. Anyway, good luck with your reverse programming project.

[charioteer]

Just to re-iterate one more time: 7.0 earthquakes or above are not uncommon in the ocean. No tsunami would have been created, as I specified this, and it probably would have been farther off, in the Mid Atlantic Ridge, anyways. This would have drawn attention and perhaps gotten out further that there is factual basis that we have the ability to create earthquakes. We are a type 1 civilization; you may understand this, but most people do not.

Good luck with your studies. You will have an easier time concentrating than I will have.

[777 The Great Work]

There are many ways to interpret an earth quake, on a Monday.
You have the focus on Monday now ,and earth quake, that was your agenda. This game is already over. That is all CHAR IO TEER. Blue lodge member or pretender.:lmao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[viking]

There are many ways to interpret an earth quake, on a Monday.
You have the focus on Monday now ,and earth quake, that was your agenda. This game is already over. That is all CHAR IO TEER. Blue lodge member or pretender.:lmao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

:naughty:

YouTube - The Platters - Great Pretender, Only You (live)

viking

[Initiate]

many of us feel vitimised and misled by the powers that were because when the truth comes to us we realise just how far up the garden path we have been led.

I then consider the fact that for many of us we have lived the birth life death cycle at least once. Those that are currently the PTW more than likely in a past life were the oppressed. Just as we more than likely were the oppressors. And I am more than certain that at some stage before we can move forward in evolution our noses are gonna be rubbed in it. We are gonna have to face our past deeds or missdeeds.

"If we can't forgive how can we be forgiven?". Just as the P's are waking up is it not also possible for the PTW's to wake up also? If you were living a certain way your whole life as a PTW is it not possible that you knew no different? As JC said "Father, Forgive them for they know not what the do" What if they were awoken and were given the truth. What next? Is this not what is been asked of us? Duality is comming to an end but would the creator want to do away with any of his creations especially when we were all born with a spark of creation? Mind shattering stuff but it needs to be said.

[Anchor]

The change we have in our heart isn’t written down, and if the change we knew in our heart were written down then that could be planned against by tptw in order to divert or counter.

....



Wow thanks for this complete answer.

Awesome.

A..

[Anchor]

"If we can't forgive how can we be forgiven?". Just as the P's are waking up is it not also possible for the PTW's to wake up also? If you were living a certain way your whole life as a PTW is it not possible that you knew no different? As JC said "Father, Forgive them for they know not what the do" What if they were awoken and were given the truth. What next? Is this not what is been asked of us? Duality is comming to an end but would the creator want to do away with any of his creations especially when we were all born with a spark of creation? Mind shattering stuff but it needs to be said.

Forgiveness is a favorite thing for me to contemplate. I'd like to re-share as I have on this forum a few times, my favorite and personally some of the most resonant (for me) passages of the Law Of One.

34.2 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define karma?

Ra: I am Ra. Our understanding of karma is that which may be called inertia. Those actions which are put into motion will continue using the ways of balancing until such time as the controlling or higher principle which you may liken unto your braking or stopping is invoked. This stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. These two concepts are inseparable.

34.3 Questioner: If an entity develops what is called karma in an incarnation, is there then programming that sometimes occurs so that he will experience catalysts that will enable him to get to a point of forgiveness thereby alleviating the karma?

Ra: I am Ra. This is, in general, correct. However, both self and any involved other-self may, at any time through the process of understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness, ameliorate these patterns. This is true at any point in an incarnative pattern. Thus one who has set in motion an action may forgive itself and never again make that error. This also brakes or stops what you call karma.

18.10 Questioner: You stated yesterday that forgiveness is the eradicator of karma. I am assuming that balanced forgiveness for the full eradication of karma would require forgiveness not only of other-selves but also the forgiveness of self. Am I correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. We will briefly expand upon this understanding in order to clarify.

Forgiveness of other-self is forgiveness of self. An understanding of this insists upon full forgiveness upon the conscious level of self and other-self, for they are one. A full forgiveness is thus impossible without the inclusion of self.

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=34&sc=1&ss=0#2

Also ... from David Wilcock ca. 1999

When you can begin to conceptualize what service to self really is, you can also begin to conceptualize forgiveness for it. It is only in their separation from the One that they commit folly.

To objectify them as the blackest demons of hell is to only step further and further away from having compassion for them as your fellow brothers and sisters, which they truly are. So, don’t forget that you must welcome these entities back into the circle in what you might call the far distant future when they have reformed.

And so, like a tough, drug-resistant superbacteria, all things are part of the creation, regardless of the damage that they might cause. The plan is to focus on the positive, regardless of the costs involved.

To ascribe mythical shape-shifting properties to all those who are in elite positions of power is to harness a fear that they are much more powerful than good. See the reality of those members of your population who stumble about in darkness, who feel that they must control others in order to be able to have any sense of self appreciation.

Extend your forgiveness with the knowledge and forethought that they themselves can be healed with the appropriate attention, forgiveness and caring.

Do not fail to remember that they are your friends, and that the only secret that is being kept from them is the joy of service to others.

We know and continue to see that there can be difficulties, there can be stresses, there can be strife upon your planet. The false misdeeds of the past cannot be immediately rectified, and these coercive situations do continue to intensify at present. However, once you begin naming the Name and declaring the universal I AM presence as your own, you must also recognize the Oneness within yourself.

The One has allowed the self-serving polarity to develop in order that there be balance in this creation, for those dimensional levels three through six, the early portion of six, I believe.

[mudra]

The true battle that is being played out is in your mind, and the true darkness to be overcome is right there, in your very own mind. There is really only One Being who needs to receive this message. Knowing this message, and understanding it, is part of our journey into the new era.

Namaste
charioteer


:thumb_yello:

From mind to Heart this is the ultimate revolution .

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2009/239/d/8/See_No_Evil____MSPaint_by_Mirz123.png


Love always
mudra

[Malletzky]

Hi. Ok, first of all, allow me to apologize.

...This was not meant to frighten you. Had the earthquake happened, I know most of you would have been shocked, and perhaps, a bit too shocked....



Oh, so you're underestimating my abilities also...you can't frighten me...you can't shock me...not any more...I'm way beyound that state where I allowed to be frightened or shocked...

I guess, you should've read some posts from the members who post here...I can't remember that anyone here ever stated we could be frightened easily...or will be shocked by any prophpecies...fake or correct.


So...as someone said previously, you're on the best way to lose your whole credibility...just take it easy...and try to learn who we are first !

with :wub2:
malletzky

[Stargazer1965]

Oh, so you're underestimating my abilities also...you can't frighten me...you can't shock me...not any more...I'm way beyound that state where I allowed to be frightened or shocked...

I guess, you should've read some posts from the members who post here...I can't remember that anyone here ever stated we could be frightened easily...or will be shocked by any prophpecies...fake or correct.


So...as someone said previously, you're on the best way to lose your whole credibility...just take it easy...and try to learn who we are first !

with :wub2:
malletzky

Great Post Malletzky!!!

You may have a message Charioteer but Malletzkys right...

The folks that have been here for a while have had signs of Doom and Gloom waved in our faces....so much so it seems they are trying to distract us from the real truth.

The real truth is that we have to look above all the chaos that swirls around us like a dust devil....Clear a path and find what the true end game is about.

A fight for our 22 grams....Our souls

A subjugation by our creator's oldest foes.

Peace

[Anchor]

Still, validation that we as a group can't be overly perturbed by this sort of thing is nice to see now and again.

Everything happens for a reason - good or bad. There is always something good in the situations we face - even this thread.

In this case - I see validation that we are, as a group are resilient in the face of some classic PTW[1] tactics.

Charioteer - you define they as PTB - but PTB can mean a lot of things. Some people refer to TPTB as ET's, God, ascended beings etc. Others - more commonly here - use the term to mean the dark forces or hidden hands, that steer humanities members away from discovering thier true natures.

Of these two - who are you referring to?

A..

[1] As a further note of clarification (which may not be needed, but I think it might) I want to explain that since many of us are comfortable with the way of expressing intent (to manifest) as present tense (ie: as if it had already happened), yet others have concluded that the game is actually already up for PTB, for both groups TPTP they are lovingly referred to as TPTW - the powers that were.

[charioteer]

Malletzky, Stargazer, I think you are right :original:.

I should have realized it wouldn't have shocked people on here. If other people came into this forum though, it might have stirred them up.

I agree we have to try to look above all the chaos. I think even Doom and Gloom theories can be as draining to the soul as mainstream propoganda.

We do have to find the truth, and like you said, Stargazer, find out what the true endgame is, and I believe that will involve searching within ourselves almost as much as searching in reading.

I've been a lurker here for awhile, and I think this is one of the best forums on the internet for finding this truth. Just want to say, peace be with you all.

(Oh, and, thanks for putting up with me :original:)

charioteer

[mudra]

Welcome Charioteer... I think you passed the test ;)
Have a great time in Avalon .. the Light is on !

Love Always
mudra

[charioteer]

Anchor, I was referring to the latter definition.

And its true, the game is up for the PTB as far as their power struggle, but we have all gained something better, including them. The task now is simply how to unite the world to end suffering. :smoke:

Let Beauty, Truth, and Love Prevail

Love,
charioteer

[charioteer]

Thanks Mudra! :original:

Peace,
charioteer

[Tango]

Raising my hand..... Can I ask a question, charioteer...?

Do you ever fish...?


Tango

[Stargazer1965]

Welcome Charioteer... I think you passed the test ;)
Have a great time in Avalon .. the Light is on !

Love Always
mudra

A present

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_D1oHua6fgh4/StR7Y-8M69I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/cjP9dazN0iI/s144/chariot.jpg

[charioteer]

Allow me briefly describe some of the things I would do, and what I would like to see done.

I would like to see certain deceptions unveiled. It would be asking a lot for ET disclosure overnight, but I think one thing that could use unraveling is the man-made global warming hoax. The question is how to go about doing this, and what would be the gain for them. I think that this would be good because it would be something, unlike 911 truth, that would not have to be "admitted" was a deception in the first place; you just say that scientists have reached a new consensus based on new information and that would open peoples eyes to an important truth. All the planets in this solar system are heating right now.

One of the things you have to think about when wondering what deceptions could be unveiled is, what is the reason for the deception in the first place? Aside from just the fact of sitting on some valuable information and keeping it a secret. Some deceptions seem like deceptions but they may actually be there to assist you. When you want something, you have to work for it. People have to be smart enough to have the truth. Alex Jones, for example, is a disinfo agent, but is in fact really trying to "wake people up", as it were, and so its not black and white.

Another thing would be releasing secret technology. The most obvious of these would involve free energy. We should have water cars. We should forgive them for knocking off Stanley Meyer, I think, but we should also be thinking now what should be done for this technology to be released. Think of it from their perspective. The "what" you would like to see is one thing, but the "how" to get it done, is another.

I personally like the idea of the president talking about self-empowerment. It would really help to give people strength at a time when healthcare and pharmaceuticals are becoming more prevalent.

I agree doctors should strive towards not using synthetic drugs. Its amazing there are bestselling books like Kevin Trudeau and still most people use them. Think about it this way: who is more dependent on whom, the medical insurance companies on the people taking the drugs, or the people taking the drugs on the drugs themselves and the system?

Meant to make this post shorter...

[GaiaLove]

charioteer: Ok, so you are saying you believe you are being watched and whatever you type on your computer TPTW will see and perhaps listen to. Is that correct?


After the quake didn't happen, I told them, "That's ok, just make some more mild quakes at least it will give a hint that there is some validity to this. This might be better for you anyways than a specific time and location because it won't draw too much attention."



The earthquake should happen, because I have asked them to.


All I have to do is type something on my computer and they see it. I can open up a doc to speak to them. They see the screen as I do. When I said the earthquake should happen because I asked them to, I mean that I have them in check so to speak and they are willing, to some degree, to heed my advice as to what to do to begin closing the gap between the PTB and the P (the people). In the future, the people will have the world; but not all TBTB will vanish from the earth, many/most of them will still be here, in the same bodies.

[charioteer]

Lots of you have probably seen this but wanted to post it:

YouTube - Carl Sagan - Pale Blue Dot

[charioteer]

charioteer: Ok, so you are saying you believe you are being watched and whatever you type on your computer TPTW will see and perhaps listen to. Is that correct?

Gaia Love, this is correct, yes, I am being watched and they will see what I write.

[charioteer]

...I know this is a lot to stomach. I want to say again I really appreciate the support that I've gotten here with me revealing this...

[iainl140285]

Revealing what?:lol3:
Your saying stuff that everyone here already knows.
The ONLY reason that people are posting in this thread is the nature of the title and YOU.

You could have a job tomorrow with the media making such sensationalised statements with no substance

[GaiaLove]

Revealing what?:lol3:
Your saying stuff that everyone here already knows.
The ONLY reason that people are posting in this thread is the nature of the title and YOU.

You could have a job tomorrow with the media making such sensationalised statements with no substance:mfr_lol:



Thats pretty well sums it up iainl:thumb_yello:


:lmfao:

Dead thread, on to bigger and better..

[Moxie]

I would ask that the true origin of all religions be taught, revealed by mainstream media, you know, on one of the top 3 alphabet soups... a weekly series that shows by demonstration how all the main religions of the world have a common source, using symbols and such. In other words... the eventual dismantling of the big 3 religions by introduction of their common sources so that this Empowerment of which has been spoken be Shown resides truly Within each and Every Person...

All people must have their basic needs met - FOOD, NOW.

Introspection, contemplation of one's intent of heart cannot be an option when those that are starving have their whole minds centered on basic survival.

But yes, it does seem that some sort of open demonstration of power might be needed to wake the people up enough to stop & pay attention, not the earthquake as you posited... but FREE energy shown publicly on the internet, television ABC/NBS/CBS, taken to the 3rd world countries & SHOWN....

thank you for listening

[charioteer]

There isn't a lot left to reveal to people on forums like this. You already know.

Revealing that I am under surveillance.

I could have made a few posts before I made this thread. But I wanted to break the ice.

I have had an influence on quite a few world events...I may not be perfect but I am in the situation I am in.

The important thing is, the illuminati/ptb need our forgiveness. It is not easy to live knowing that you have killed.

[GaiaLove]

Gaia Love, this is correct, yes, I am being watched and they will see what I write.
Fine, let them see the following..


The important thing is, the illuminati/ptb need our forgiveness. It is not easy to live knowing that you have killed.

So Die.

Perhaps the time your souls spend healing in the higher realms will benefit you all, though i doubt it.

I came to Avalon to learn how to love me fellow humans, I have always had an enormous amount of love and affectation for everything on this planet, living or not.
But my contempt for the blind, stupid, arrogant and self centered human population has hindered my spiritual growth. (as per your design)
The kind souls here at this forum are a breath of fresh air for me and MY healing has begun. Yours starts with your death. Good luck with that.
I cannot forgive, I just can't. Not as long as I am alive.
Charioteer, What you and your "friends" have done to my world is WAY beyond my capabilities of forgiveness.
I would sacrifice my life and soul to remove all of you from this world if I could.

You say now you want to help humanity?
So yeah, Die already!
I promise it will help!

[burgundia]

Revealing what?:lol3:
Your saying stuff that everyone here already knows.
The ONLY reason that people are posting in this thread is the nature of the title and YOU.

You could have a job tomorrow with the media making such sensationalised statements with no substance

:thumb_yello:

[Stargazer1965]

There isn't a lot left to reveal to people on forums like this. You already know.

Revealing that I am under surveillance.

I could have made a few posts before I made this thread. But I wanted to break the ice.

I have had an influence on quite a few world events...I may not be perfect but I am in the situation I am in.

The important thing is, the illuminati/ptb need our forgiveness. It is not easy to live knowing that you have killed.

None of the killing is easy to stomach...but what of all the missing children and their link to a dark food chain...

There will be nothing left of these people when we're done ....when you aided and a bedded child killers

The pitch forks and torches will come out and I'll be leading the charge.

These people were in bed with atrocities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Forgiveness....I think not

[iainl140285]

There isn't a lot left to reveal to people on forums like this. You already know.

Revealing that I am under surveillance.

I could have made a few posts before I made this thread. But I wanted to break the ice.

I have had an influence on quite a few world events...I may not be perfect but I am in the situation I am in.

The important thing is, the illuminati/ptb need our forgiveness. It is not easy to live knowing that you have killed.

So THEY need our forgiveness, which they will receive providing THEY can show the rest of us all ready on track that THEY value human life. ALL human life regardless off class/status etc.

And I'll give you a heads up, throw away statements like this, "We should forgive them for knocking off Stanley Meyer" shows exactly the frame of mind you are still in.

Take some time, look around this forum and SEE what level of awareness the PEOPLE are truly at. When you assume, you make an ASS of U and ME:lol3:

[Tango]

We had a famous TV show several years back.... Maybe it can help...
I would never suggest to any other member. But, it seems sooo fitting.

YouTube - suicide is painless - 4077th tribute

For all the broken bodies, minds, our young men and women who wanted
to protect and serve their countries good and loyal; And the Dead sooo
many dead.....

Think as I may think as I might, I think this is the Solution that is just right.


Please, Please, take this back to them, hand it to them, A gift from me.

Trooly,


Tango

[Christo888]

Allow me briefly describe some of the things I would do, and what I would like to see done.

I would like to see certain deceptions unveiled. It would be asking a lot for ET disclosure overnight, but I think one thing that could use unraveling is the man-made global warming hoax. The question is how to go about doing this, and what would be the gain for them. I think that this would be good because it would be something, unlike 911 truth, that would not have to be "admitted" was a deception in the first place; you just say that scientists have reached a new consensus based on new information and that would open peoples eyes to an important truth. All the planets in this solar system are heating right now.

One of the things you have to think about when wondering what deceptions could be unveiled is, what is the reason for the deception in the first place? Aside from just the fact of sitting on some valuable information and keeping it a secret. Some deceptions seem like deceptions but they may actually be there to assist you. When you want something, you have to work for it. People have to be smart enough to have the truth. Alex Jones, for example, is a disinfo agent, but is in fact really trying to "wake people up", as it were, and so its not black and white.

Another thing would be releasing secret technology. The most obvious of these would involve free energy. We should have water cars. We should forgive them for knocking off Stanley Meyer, I think, but we should also be thinking now what should be done for this technology to be released. Think of it from their perspective. The "what" you would like to see is one thing, but the "how" to get it done, is another.

I personally like the idea of the president talking about self-empowerment. It would really help to give people strength at a time when healthcare and pharmaceuticals are becoming more prevalent.

I agree doctors should strive towards not using synthetic drugs. Its amazing there are bestselling books like Kevin Trudeau and still most people use them. Think about it this way: who is more dependent on whom, the medical insurance companies on the people taking the drugs, or the people taking the drugs on the drugs themselves and the system?

Meant to make this post shorter...

How about revealing something like Gold & Oil are renewable.:naughty:

The planet will make as much Oil as it can it is not a scarce resource... And likewise with Gold it is not a scarce resource, it is a by-product through a process!!! Gold can be used for many things it does not have to be a monetary base. Actually while were at it Water is also renewable, burnt Hydrogen... the Belief that resources are scarce is what tptw have lied about in order to give the resource value and make people develop the mentality that they have to work for their share of resources... although true tptw have set it up for a controlling context.

Resources are readily available it is just changing the understanding and responsibility mentality of not wasting what exists and begin developing the skills of manifesting forward thinking better uses of Divine Intelligence. OK big subject, which falls back onto Self-Empowerment, Personal Responsibility, and Self-Awareness of these skills, abilities, and inherent potential of the Whole in each fragment. It is like each individual has so much constant 'chatter' that they just don't know what to do with themselves so WE are constantly creating, thinking, focusing, developing, organizing, products & services to make a buck that we have just cluttered ourselves with ****!

The answer is not asking tptw for their assistance or hoping that they even have any power to make change to begin with but the answer is altogether a new direction that does not include tptw's input.

The answer is, as mentioned in so many places, something new that can be focused on by as many as want to participate to impregnate the idea into gestation and have it germinate, and sprout, grow, manifest into that new world that works and makes sense for all fragments of the whole which does not include a top down hierarchy... there are no 'tptw' roles... like we don't even know who or what they are anymore. Everyone has rose themselves to the best understanding of Harmony and Balance and the most responsible use of their own individual creative power which of course one realizes the responsibility of what they create and the ramifications of such or the benefits of such, and thus appends their focus for the best and highest good of all.

From the inside out and from the bottom up... as the world turns tptw are losing credibility because they are still trying to figure out what to do with what they have created and held control over past the tipping point. And are still thinking in terms of fixing a system with the same thought references that created it, which only keeps the loop going... polarity thinking.

Darkside Polarity says... "If I can't have it you can't either," and Lightside Polarity says... "I am doing this for your benefit." Tptw use these two polarity's to maintain control.

To fix it tptw ask what can we do to help... lightside polarity; but if they are going to lose control then they scream darkside polarity... and panic.

Each household can learn to be self sustaining and efficient and the idea does not have to be a stone-age comprehension... efficient living conditions can totally be accounted for and each community in each state and/or country can have high standards of living according to each community's understanding of responsibility.

A great start is to remove the mind programming schemes in media, marketing, and advertising tricks as well as the chemical counterpart in the food and water. No announcements are necessary for that!!!!!! Just do it!!

[lawlessline]

Chariot my dear,

I was wondering if you have any coinnection to Cammander Adam or the other user name he used?

Are you part of the GFL?

Are you anything to do with the church of signtology, (cann't spell it I know)?

Why did the earthquake not happen?

Have you forgiven the PTB?

Have you forgiven yourself?

Straight answers only on a post. No straight answers would mean that forgiveness is something you have not understood, because you are holding back on letting your heart go free.

You will only find love from me and all here, and none is responsible for anothers forgiveness.

Please feel free and speak what is on your heart.

[mudra]

The important thing is, the illuminati/ptb need our forgiveness. It is not easy to live knowing that you have killed.

When these people will come out one by one in the open not hiding behind the illusion of the power they have as a group and speak from their own individual self ..then and only then might some healing occur for forgiveness is a heart to heart , soul to soul process .
So before speaking for them come in the front and speak for your own .

Love always
mudra

[Initiate]

Chariot,

I guess the first thing the PTW should do to start putting things right is to stop the subterfuge. Stop covering up. Let the information free. Stop punishing people for exposing it i.e. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14502

Stop holding on to power and leaving good people out in the cold. A friend of mine in the United States in Las Vegas is suffering because he is too ill to work. He can't affort to go to the doctor. He had a bad foot infection and had to hold off for weeks before being able to see a doctor. He is still paying off that bill and then fell over in the bath and has hurt his back and knee really bad. He again is holding off going to the doctor because he doesn't have $460 USD to go and see the doctor. He has diabetes and just is suffering really bad. Last night he mentioned suicide. Life must be really hard to get through for him. the PTW had the power to fix it but they thrived on suffering. I will refer to him as "The Bear". Please pray for him.

Chariot please please tell the PTW to stop letting good citizens of earth suffer.

[charioteer]

Feelings like these (that you feel you want them to die) are understandable, and let me add, it isn't easy being one of the oppressed, either.

We live in a polarity interaction universe. Different souls incarnate in different places to experience different parts of our Divine Self. Different polarities interact together to create a tapestry of life. Without the Kali Yuga Dark Age, there would be nothing to contrast against the Golden Age with which for us to recognize its value.

Love and fear are two strong forces that bind us in an ever-changing process of evolution. Love, (evol + ve, 55) is when we act without fear, and is Real, while fear is used as along the way to help us realize the power and meaning of Love. These two forces interact and coalesce to form a system, or framework for souls to incarnate that is complete.

Without evil, there would not be good. Without great darkness, there would not be as great a measure of great light. Strife and conlflict strengthen us and help us realize the meaning of togetherness. Chaos helps to create a new definition for bringing about positive change. And that is why, I had to start this thread with the threat of a quake, because in the Golden Age, we will all live and work together as One.

[KathyT]

tomorrow there will be a magnitude 7.0 quake off the coast of Harbor Island, the Bahamas, at 9:33 AM EST. no one will be harmed.

What were the betting odds that you could be right? Well… it turned out you were wrong.


I am not always that together, or organized in my life, but I hope that you'll bear with me, we can work together to create some realistic change.

I know hundreds of people who are organized in life… very sane and productive people. I am concerned when you say you're "not always together and not always organized" That gives me an insight as to your mental readiness to be a leader. I don't think yet that you've projected the confidence and knowledge to lead a worthy project.

I would be interested in knowing specific things you have done to create change. Do you have funding? Have your created an organization with a stated mission and work plan? Do you have employees and volunteers? Can you give us a specific plan of one thing you are currently working on?


The earthquake should happen, because I have asked them to. Know that if it does not, the tasks I have touched on still must be tackled. The powers that be do read sites like this.

I am in close conjunction with them. They are watching me. It appears as though they have decided not to go through with the plan as I set forth. This is forgivable, and perhaps it would have drawn too much attention for them right now anyways. People don't want to step out of their comfort zones too fast; they are people too. Let downs happen.

We all are in close conjunction with lots of people. Everybody watches everybody else all the time, so your statement has no value or special meaning. Most of your statements have no value and are simply ridiculous.


They I do not have a name for other than PTB. I have had a great influence over them for awhile now and have been under surveillance.

Yeah, you are probably under surveillance by a mental health clinician in a mental health ward.

Normal sane people I know in this world do not talk like you do. I hope others here haven’t fallen for the dialog of this individual… someone with a sick mind.

I hope you are seeking the help of a licensed medical professional.

[charioteer]

Thank you all again for you responses. They have been helpful. Initiate's post on forgiveness and Anchor's quote from The Law of One and David Wilcox were particularly helpful.

lawlessline, I do not have any connection to Cammander Adam, or the church of scientology. The earthquake did not happen because they decided not to do it, I believe because it would have been too direct of a link.

They have been watching me for awhile. I have been in fear about it myself in the past. We have formed sort of an alliance, though things still are rough. They began watching me for something detestable that I did myself...

I have forgiven them, and I am working on forgiving myself and it is a gradual process, but in my heart of hearts I already have forgiven myself, though it comes back to haunt me sometimes.

They have informed me that, based on what I know and my skills, they would like me to serve as a link, between the different "sides" My inner guidance has led me to the conclusion that I am here to assist with that same purpose, perhaps here on this forum and elsewhere.

[charioteer]

KathyT, forget that I mentioned about not being organized if you like. I mentioned this because, you see, I am being watched, and it is disabling at times, not a disability, but disabling. I wanted to be honest. I am not being observed by a mental health ward.

I know you are all in close conjunction with lots of people, and I know my breaking in with the bold start could have seemed arrogant. I know this is one of the best if not the best places to discuss the coming changes on the internet. I am in close conjunction with "they", the ptb.

I think the reason you are saying that I have a sick mind is because I marched in here so rapidly and have been talking to all of you as if I know all that needs to happen.

This was the only way I could think to break through, because, there are no buttons I can press on this keyboard to describe what my situation has been like, on my journey.

I am still learning, but I have a knack for getting to the truth and seeing all sides.

[Karen]

Yeah, you are probably under surveillance by a mental health clinician in a mental health ward.
Normal sane people I know in this world do not talk like you do. I hope others here haven’t fallen for the dialog of this individual… someone with a sick mind.
I hope you are seeking the help of a licensed medical professional.

KathyT - You're always doing the long distance mental health evaluation. I'd say that's a personal attack. Now stop. Don't let there be a next time. We don't need to give infractions and ban people anymore, but we can always restart that system.

Don't worry about people falling for it. People need to have their own experiences and learn for themselves. And if someone should be mentally ill, they don't need your ridicule.

[Initiate]

Ultimately the final forgiveness needs to come from first source. To do that one must not continue to act as before. one must change. How have you changed Chariot? How will the PTW change? How will you and they start to obey the laws of the universe. Ultimately if these things go unchecked there will be consequences. My thought adjuster was telling me that you were in close contact with them and you and they were trying to repair some damage that had been done. I feel it is not enough to just do these things but that ones heart must change also. It reminds me of when Dan Burish was out in the streets at night and feeding some poor. It felt like a gesture "Look at me. I'm doing some good" but it felt like a show and that it didn't really come from the heart. Are you trying to "look" good chariot? or "are" you changed? Can you enlighten us some more to your situation. Please don't leave anything out.

[charioteer]

I am not mentally ill. In fact it has been implied to me that to maintain the balance I have with what I've been through that I am "too sane". They have been watching me for some time.

The purpose of this thread is to get you thinking critically. I made this thread before posting here or making a connection with any of you and so I will give this to you that I am not "surprised" by this sort of feedback.

There are challenges ahead. The idea that I am being watched and the things I have said may make you feel uneasy. Knowing that you have greater responsibility may make you feel uneasy. The thing is, simply exposing the ptb is not enough anymore because sites like this messages like this will only appeal to a certain genre of people. Hundreds, or thousands (I don't know the exact number) of people are associated with Project Avalon, but there are millions who need the messages on forums like this. Conspiracy sites are considered an "interest" for people, but they have information which is crucial and which concerns us all. We must find a way to get the truth out to all.

I did not want to bring this up, but Jeff Rense has a point. Writing support for one another is a great thing but more ideas need to be generated; realistic, down-to-earth ideas. It should be ok to question and to "debate" in a friendly manner, not just be idly by and post news stories and be appalled by them. We are all included in this. This is your world. There comes a time when one must get down-and-dirty and get to work, and part of what I mean by that is take responsibility for your world and the dark forces that it has in it, which are there for a reason, even if it makes you uncomfortable. Stop "blaming them", and start thinking about your own solutions.

[Initiate]

Charioteer,

please if this discussion is to move forward these basic questions must be answered:

1) How have you and your "friends" changed or repented for a better word?

2) What were the circumstances that led to this change?

3) Is it fear of consequences?

[charioteer]

I am thinking about making another thread about this, one with a softer title.

It is not just they who are watching me. There are other people who have heard about what I have done and who watch me too.

'They' are just people.

In the past they would create storms whenever I was upset. On October 14th of last year they created a large dark, circular cloud with smooth edges that looked like a craft in my area but I knew before hand the GFL was not to come on that date.

Myself and them, we, have changed and repented in many ways. We have learned much about good and evil. We have learned that behind all of the drama of life, all people desire to do good. It is not fear of consequence. We have become stronger and I have become more aware and they, I believe, have become more sympathetic to the needs of common people. We have learned about compassion, and that the soul prophets from suffering even if the body may always not.

The circumstances that have led to our greater understanding have involved all of us, myself and them, living through an experience that has involved both them demeaning me and me demeaning them, and us coming to a greater understanding that though we had been pit against each other, behind it we are similar and want the same things.

[charioteer]

I have decided to move on to other things besides this thread. I think that it has helped.

One of the most important things that we, myself and them, have learned is that behind the illusion of separateness, we are all one. As a raw foodist I already knew this, but living through what I have, the words have deeper meaning. We all basically want the same things. They want to wake us up, and we, the people, want to wake up, the question is how.

Thank you for participating.

Kyle

[Initiate]

Thanks Charioteer for your honest answer. My Thought Adjuster is happy your intent is genuine. Welcome on board this train of consciousness. Buckle up, it's gonna be an interesting ride.

[Malletzky]

...Without evil, there would not be good...



Charioteer, maybe in some other people's timeline, maybe now on earth, but I assure you I know that there is good without evil, that there is light without darkness. I'm seeing it everyday ! Where ??? Don't have to look elsewhere, it's in our hearts. It's just a matter of an adjustemt and tuning in with the right frequencies. Believe me, I would know to live in a world withot "evil".



...They have informed me that, based on what I know and my skills, they would like me to serve as a link, between the different "sides" My inner guidance has led me to the conclusion that I am here to assist with that same purpose, perhaps here on this forum and elsewhere...



Well what kind of skills are these? Are you ready to speak about them? If not, please don't mention this further. We've seen many other out there, "who knows this and that, who can do this and that, but still can't speak about it...". What a shame for the humanity !!


...The purpose of this thread is to get you thinking critically...



And once again I ask you to learn first who the avalonians are...Why do you think we would need your initiation? Do I read an arrogant aproach here, a kind of "yeah, I'm above you, my skills (whatsoever) are better ..." ???

Please don't assume what I need...please don't asume anything, simple, don't judge!

with :wub2:
malletzky