Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers

[Lionhawk]

This thread is dedicated to those who would like to share their Reptilian experiences. Be forewarned as to the nature of this type of experience can be very graphic in nature. This thread is also dedicated to those who embrace the possibility of expanding your personal awareness. It is being presented to you as not a copy and paste piece of work as these testimonies are still second hand in nature to you, the viewer. For the ones telling the story, God Bless you for surviving such an encounter.

[mudra]

Your wish has been granted Mudra,
the original content of this post is now replaced with this.

Mudra wrote:
My post on the original reptilian encounters thread created havoc and turmoil.
Close and distant friends underwent suffering as a consequence of this.
Those who know me well know this was not my intention.
I can understand however how for other people the lightness of spirit with which I adressed
an otherwise serious topic has been taken as a sign of malice and disrespect.
Would I still be able to edit on the original thread I would remove my post there.
I apogolize for a move of mine that I now see was irrelevant and unwise.
I feel I had no place on your reptilian encounters thread LionHawk.
I have spoken on a subject I had no subjective reality about .
My words therefore were irrelevant.
Again to you LionHawk and all those concerned my apologies .


Love Always
mudra

[iainl140285]

Last time I saw a dragon is in a fairy Tale ;)
That was a close encounter of a loving type.

YouTube - Sword in the Stone - Merlin and Mim into Various Animals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lzf1XroT6w&feature=related)

Love Always
mudra

MUDRA!!!!!!!!! My favourite film ever!:lol3::thumb_yello::wub2:

[BROOK]

Last time I saw a dragon is in a fairy Tale ;)
That was a close encounter of a loving type.Mudra, I'm surprised at your post. It seems to be a mocking of the intent of the thread.
You yourself started a thread about "mind control", and I have to ask you...do you believe that it is a "loving" being that wound attempt to do such mind control? Exactly what type of beings would impose mind control?

There are several people on this forum that struggle with this...and to dismiss it with a cartoon is a slap in the face to the ones that have to deal with it.

I have never been subject to these beings that I am consciously aware of...but there are many here that suffer with the trauma.....that may be the reason that they are not jumping on the bandwagon to answer this thread....it's too much to recall.

An of course there would be the reaction of it being a "fantasy" in the minds of those that do not understand or believe...therefore mocking them.

It is all too real to them, so a little compassion is in order here....let them if they will tell their story without ridicule.
But the cartoon...most likely will naturally remind them...they will be laughed at..made fun of and thought crazy...when in fact...this is a very real and terrifying part of their life. :nono:

[Lionhawk]

Well, Well, Well..................If it isn't Mr. Smith. You thought no one knew. I knew the first day I got here.

[Christo888]

Well, Well, Well..................If it isn't Mr. Smith. You thought no one knew. I knew the first day I got here.

?? LIonhawk who is Mr. Smith? What did you know?

[petem]

Lionhawk,
That is a bold statement. What made you think that upon your arrival at Avalon?

The only thing we ask for at Avalon is the TRUTH.

Pete

[mudra]

Mudra, I'm surprised at your post. It seems to be a mocking of the intent of the thread.



Brook this is not my intent .
Lionhawk asked for genuine reptilian experiences one may have had . I wanted to answer him but could only do it from my own truth : I never met a reptilian being through my entire life and the first moment I heard of such creatures was effectively through Disney .
Since then I read and heard a lot about reptilians...I would be interested to hear the testimony of anyone here in Avalon that would have had such an experience but as far as I am concerned I met none of them myself.

Love Always
mudra

[BROOK]

Mudra it may not have been your intent but it was very effective in sprinkeling "fairy dust" to put those back to sleep with imaginary dragons.

There are some who would love to bring their truth to the table...but now the imgage of Disney gives it discredit.
Lets not forget the image of disney with the penis implanted to distract the minds of our children.

These truths cannot be covered up in "loving" denial...because there is nothing loving about the experience.

And so it begins....shall we cover our heads to the truth these folks would share....let them just keep it to themselves...or will we allow them to shine a light on the darkness...and reveal the truth...the truth "you cannot handle"

[Moxie]

Greetings LionHawk. In the other "counter-intel" thread, you mentioned your purpose in bringing up this topic, that of assistance, help, and of protection.

Might you offer here what you know of "protection"? I'm sure many viewers of Avalon have read plenty descriptives of encounters w/reptilians.

I'm not sure that reading more descriptives would be of much help... but discussions about protection would be, at least to me.

I appreciate the Thread starter and I do understand reluctance of others to share personal experiences.

thank you

[Angel in Disguise]

I have shared my experience on two other threads... no responses. And just to be clear, it was a little traumatizing at the time but it is not a trauma I have carried with me all these years... I just want to know what the heck it was is all, especially after learning about Reptilians through David Icke the question is bigger now than it's ever been for me.

[Phtha]

Brook has it ever occurred to you that maybe this reptoid theory is mind manipulation? We are dealing with masters of mind control, perfected after many generations of practice, no one can deny that. They KNOW how to make people believe in lies, it's all around us.... You yourself say you have no first hand experience but seem to be 100% convinced.

If I was one of them I would be looking at the internet as a prime new tool to practice with. You know what? I could register a new account here tomorrow, gain the trust of many members, and weave a tale that would fit right in with many other theories out there about reptiles...

I believe many on this forum are speaking truth when they say they have seen strange beings. My own mother is one such person who had experiences and I believe her as well with all my heart. But this does not mean that we are being led down a path of doom by man eating shape shifting reptiles who have infested our governments at every level.

Maybe they are... I keep an open mind, but to believe it without proof is leaving oneself open to manipulation.


These truths cannot be covered up in "loving" denial...because there is nothing loving about the experience.

And so it begins....shall we cover our heads to the truth these folks would share....let them just keep it to themselves...or will we allow them to shine a light on the darkness...and reveal the truth...the truth "you cannot handle"

[burgundia]

Brook has it ever occurred to you that maybe this reptoid theory is mind manipulation? We are dealing with masters of mind control, perfected after many generations of practice, no one can deny that. They KNOW how to make people believe in lies, it's all around us.... You yourself say you have no first hand experience but seem to be 100% convinced.

If I was one of them I would be looking at the internet as a prime new tool to practice with. You know what? I could register a new account here tomorrow, gain the trust of many members, and weave a tale that would fit right in with many other theories out there about reptiles...

I believe many on this forum are speaking truth when they say they have seen strange beings. My own mother is one such person who had experiences and I believe her as well with all my heart. But this does not mean that we are being led down a path of doom by man eating shape shifting reptiles who have infested our governments at every level.

Maybe they are... I keep an open mind, but to believe it without proof is leaving oneself open to manipulation.

:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yell o:

[Angel in Disguise]

Mind manipulation???... I wasn't even awake at the time it happened... No mind manipulation here!... Besides the fact that I wasn't alone witnessing this 'thing'... Otherwise I probably would think that my mind manipulated me. Not so... I saw what I saw and chalked it up to unexplained mysteries, and it still to this day is a mystery.

[Stargazer1965]

Mind manipulation???... I wasn't even awake at the time it happened... No mind manipulation here!... Besides the fact that I wasn't alone witnessing this 'thing'... Otherwise I probably would think that my mind manipulated me. Not so... I saw what I saw and chalked it up to unexplained mysteries, and it still to this day is a mystery.
Angel...I'm so sorry I missed your other thread...Can you recount your story for us??:original:

[Angel in Disguise]

I hate typing... Therefore repeating myself... Just look here... http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16915&highlight=counter+intel... And there was another thread here... http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16572&highlight=York

[Ammit]

Well, Well, Well..................If it isn't Mr. Smith. You thought no one knew. I knew the first day I got here.

Lionhawk, yes i did...

[Phtha]

I wasn't talking about your experience Angel, or anyone elses for that matter. I believe you are genuine.
I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question.
Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt, as fear is what manipulative people want us to be experience, that is their goal.

There is too much love and beauty around to ignore...

Mind manipulation???... I wasn't even awake at the time it happened... No mind manipulation here!... Besides the fact that I wasn't alone witnessing this 'thing'... Otherwise I probably would think that my mind manipulated me. Not so... I saw what I saw and chalked it up to unexplained mysteries, and it still to this day is a mystery.

[Ammit]

So many sucked in to the need, I also joined to see the result.

[mu2143]

I have incounter a reptillian in my ancient past, it was one of my dreams I now remember this.
I was walking around the area looked like warm hot pools with water.
found some bones and I was walking future then I was suddenly approached by one it had a tail as a remembered this and the only thing it wanted to do with me was to eat me .... O yeah I was taller then him...

Then I slapped it in to the water with my left hand like it did not even exist.



That was very graphic :mfr_lol:

[Angel in Disguise]

Phtha... No offense taken whatsoever. I know that there is an abundance of love and beauty but at this point I rarely see it unless alone enjoying the beautiful sounds of nature... Until of course I spot a chemtrail in the sky which always seems to bring me back to this reality that I cannot stand... How do you do it?

[Unified Serenity]

I wasn't talking about your experience Angel, or anyone elses for that matter. I believe you are genuine.
I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question.
Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt, as fear is what manipulative people want us to be experience, that is their goal.

There is too much love and beauty around to ignore...

What doctrine are you speaking of in regard to Lionhawk? I have not heard him once speak about being hopeless or in fear. He has simply said not to sit back and say we have already won, and thus do nothing.

Please quote what Lionhawk has said and where.

Thank you,

US

[Unified Serenity]

Brook has it ever occurred to you that maybe this reptoid theory is mind manipulation? We are dealing with masters of mind control, perfected after many generations of practice, no one can deny that. They KNOW how to make people believe in lies, it's all around us.... You yourself say you have no first hand experience but seem to be 100% convinced.

If I was one of them I would be looking at the internet as a prime new tool to practice with. You know what? I could register a new account here tomorrow, gain the trust of many members, and weave a tale that would fit right in with many other theories out there about reptiles...

I believe many on this forum are speaking truth when they say they have seen strange beings. My own mother is one such person who had experiences and I believe her as well with all my heart. But this does not mean that we are being led down a path of doom by man eating shape shifting reptiles who have infested our governments at every level.

Maybe they are... I keep an open mind, but to believe it without proof is leaving oneself open to manipulation.

Phtha,

You already have a thread sharing your theory of mind control. Why hijack this thread and try to steer it in a direction which basically says those who have had experiences with Reps are deluded by some mind control agenda? Please discuss this in that thread.

This thread was supposed to be about sharing experiences, not defending the fact they happened.

US

[Ammit]

I, since becoming part of this site have sat in the background watching, sometimes joining in with TRUTH as to the way I saw things. This at times upset many, I do believe mind control is rife on this site which is why I changed my identity but, before I could join I was given a free pass by someone else who must have enjoyed my honesty. You now know me as ammit.

I believe Lionhawk and stand with him because i have seen. And with my own eyes.

[Moxie]

I have read it all, from voice to skull technologies and also Matthew Delooze's "take" that his experience w/abduction by reps complete w/tortuous experience was implanted in his mind, because, as is his take, some of us are harder 'nuts to crack' in the mind control realm, thus technologies are used to convince us. I'm aware of all such "takes"... and, especially in Matthew's view, I had to give it to him, his view is a novel one... how clever can clever be?

Still, I await Lionhawks offerings of methods of protection from such invasions. Whether rep contact is real or fabricated, they are STILL first hand experiences by those that perceived them, complete w/physical 3D senses receptions, the whole niners.

This thread was started w/an appeal ONLY to those that have first hand experiences to post here... I'm asking Lionhawk for his/ner information of viable protection techniques or whatever he/she has to offer, as it the purpose of Lionhawk stated in the other thread of 'counter intel'... assistance, help, protection.

It's obvious that people will not post their personal experiences here... so may we get solution oriented?

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

I have seen entities which certainly were transparent......and that moved and felt similar to those depicted in Predator movie...but I could not tell you that they were draconians...I usually call them entities.
I saw them under the effects of Ayahuasca. One of them, the tallest I have ever seen, I would swear that he looks like Predator but it is just a guess, it is just a feeling! Because he is transparent, obviously...


But sometimes from nowhere he appears, he likes to come from behind....and likes to stay by my left side....he is never by my right side...

He is tall, very tall and feels heavy... He sometimes enjoys giving me a little bit of pain...he likes my kidneys.. I am not scared of him but he likes when I suffer physically.

What I am trying to say is that I cannot confirm that he is a draconian...I did not ask him.

For me they are just entities...

Most of the entities I see in normal state of mind...seem quite transparent....you know they are there but you do not SEE them very well....I do not know if I am explaining myself properly...

[Jacqui D]

Reptiles are real they are not a figment of the imagination or mind control i encountered two of these entities but i will not re write my experiences that was put here over a year ago now and my one was a predator type being.
I also had a mark on my arm to prove it. So anyone who says they do not exist needs a wake up call.:mad3:

[Angel in Disguise]

Ughhh... See what I mean???... Can't we all just get along :wall:... Ooops... a few people responded before I got this original message out... Nothing against you whatsoever... I appreciate your experiences on this matter Jacqui D and Goddess of Purple Light... Thanks for coming forward!

[Jacqui D]

okay goddess just posted this and i see you mention predator synchronisity!!!



I have seen entities which certainly were transparent......and that moved and felt similar to those depicted in Predator movie...but I could not tell you that they were draconians...I usually call them entities.
I saw them under the effects of Ayahuasca. One of them, the tallest I have ever seen, I would swear that he looks like Predator but it is just a guess, it is just a feeling! Because he is transparent, obviously...


But sometimes from nowhere he appears, he likes to come from behind....and likes to stay by my left side....he is never by my right side...

He is tall, very tall and feels heavy... He sometimes enjoys giving me a little bit of pain...he likes my kidneys.. I am not scared of him but he likes when I suffer physically.

What I am trying to say is that I cannot confirm that he is a draconian...I did not ask him.

For me they are just entities...

Most of the entities I see in normal state of mind...seem quite transparent....you know they are there but you do not SEE them very well....I do not know if I am explaining myself properly...

[Moxie]

Try all you want to convince someone that their experience was not real. If you have not had experiences, then you do not hold the criteria to participate in this thread and it is unkind to joke about it.

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

Of course Jacqui: he FEELS like predator...what else can I say....
It is the truth...even the way he moves...he is extremely heavy but can jump with no difficulty...
....so yeah you are right!!!

did you have any interaction with them...?. Can you explain what happened to you? If you do not mind of course.
Thanks.

[Unified Serenity]

I have read it all, from voice to skull technologies and also Matthew Delooze's "take" that his experience w/abduction by reps complete w/tortuous experience was implanted in his mind, because, as is his take, some of us are harder 'nuts to crack' in the mind control realm, thus technologies are used to convince us. I'm aware of all such "takes"... and, especially in Matthew's view, I had to give it to him, his view is a novel one... how clever can clever be?

Still, I await Lionhawks offerings of methods of protection from such invasions. Whether rep contact is real or fabricated, they are STILL first hand experiences by those that perceived them, complete w/physical 3D senses receptions, the whole niners.

This thread was started w/an appeal ONLY to those that have first hand experiences to post here... I'm asking Lionhawk for his/ner information of viable protection techniques or whatever he/she has to offer, as it the purpose of Lionhawk stated in the other thread of 'counter intel'... assistance, help, protection.

It's obvious that people will not post their personal experiences here... so may we get solution oriented?

Do you have knowledge or understanding of how energetic shielding works? That is the best way to keep them out of your mind. There are many ways to construct these shields and whatever works is best for that person.

The Reps want to scare you. They feed off of that energy. They also revel in lust energy. Hence so much of our entertainment using terror and lust to evoke that energy in movies and such. I was attacked one time in the physical having been brought out of sleep to fully awake. As I struggled to stop this attack, and before I could open my eyes, a voice which I recognized as a soul protector / guide told me to not open my eyes. Once the attack was dealt with I realized that I was not physically capable of defeating this being and that to open my eyes would have possibly caused my death.

As it was, I dealt with it energetically and it was removed. It tried one other time, but since I had already defeated it once with some aid, it was not at all successful and in fact only made me stronger. I have not been attacked like this again. I have been physically attacked 3 times in my life, and each time I overcame them. They don't attack me now.

I think they are very capable of getting into your mind and work in the spirit realm. They can manifest physically, but often do not. Shielding is the best way I know to protect yourself. They also hate high vibrational energy, and it is a weapon against them.

[Jacqui D]

It was two of them a full on attack i thank my self lucky to be alive i think i have some good beings looking after me.
This thing was around 8/9ft tall huge.
it was in combat gear an elite soldier and had been looking for me for many years he told me telepathically.

[Angel in Disguise]

Feeling invisible even when there are people who acknowledge the same is a trauma in itself... :nono:

[Ammit]

I did not see combat gear, I was not spoken too telepathecly as far as i am aware. I know it was taller then my doors, fast as hell and made me want to quiver in a corner. I fear no man and nothing that I understand, this i feared with all my heart and soul.

[Moxie]

I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option.

My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities.

I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience.

Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences.

thank you

[Angel in Disguise]

I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option.

My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities.

I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience.

Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences.

thank you


I was fully awake and under no 'influences'... Although I do have recuuring episodes of sleep paralysis where I receive messages and know that I am in a different realm at the time so try to extend the sleep paralysis as to receive more messages that are too quickly forgotten once I actually awaken... Does that make sense?

[eleni]

I have only seem one on an ayahausca experience and a did see a black *devil* like being when I was a child. I wet my pants and I was with a friend.

I have a question......does anyone think it *coincidence* that some Nordic species are also that height and there have been reports where people were tricked - a gorgeous Nordic looking male penetrating an earth female only to turn reptilian?

In my aya experience the reptoid entered my being via my mouth and I had what people would call a kundalini experience. It was sexual in nature- a bit scary but thrilling at the same time.

Edited to add- the black *devil* I saw as a child did take place in what people would call an Illuminati setting/place of origin/Illuminati owned facility. We were in an elevator ( we had free run of this place) and were exploring.
The elevator had double doors so one could get out out at *service* levels.
The elevator stopped at 13th floor which this building did not have as a *regular* side and when it stopped the other door opened. We stayed in the elevator when it opened (meaning we did not leave- as we wouldn't have after what we saw) we pressed so hard for it to close. We were crying and I wet my pants. We didn't tell anyone (grown ups). That *thing* was the scariest thing I have ever seen.

[Jacqui D]

These beings are truly frightening the sheer size alone.
they can smell you no hiding from them.
I went into detail about this attack as i said a year ago on this site i guess if you look deep the info will still be there even posted the mark i had left on my arm.
i have dealt with now had excellent help from someone who explained what happened.
it was a frightening thing to go through so those who do not believe i want to say for myself this happened i have the memory of it i was not mind controlled i was fully awake. and the mark alone gave credence to my story






I did not see combat gear, I was not spoken too telepathecly as far as i am aware. I know it was taller then my doors, fast as hell and made me want to quiver in a corner. I fear no man and nothing that I understand, this i feared with all my heart and soul.

[Ammit]

Lucid dreams were not my experience, i was wide awake, i dont do drugs of any kind so cannot blame them, it was real and the most horrific experience of my life.

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

It was two of them a full on attack i thank my self lucky to be alive i think i have some good beings looking after me.
This thing was around 8/9ft tall huge.
it was in combat gear an elite soldier and had been looking for me for many years he told me telepathically.


Thank you Jacqui: but ...did you see them PHYSICALLY???? solid solid in front of you...or they were NON-PHYSICAL?....did they hurt you physically...??????

I am really sorry if I am asking too many questions....Please let me know if I am just asking too much...

[Phtha]

What doctrine are you speaking of in regard to Lionhawk? I have not heard him once speak about being hopeless or in fear. He has simply said not to sit back and say we have already won, and thus do nothing.
Please quote what Lionhawk has said and where.

You already have a thread sharing your theory of mind control. Why hijack this thread and try to steer it in a direction which basically says those who have had experiences with Reps are deluded by some mind control agenda?



Unified I'm not high jacking anything I'm allowed to post when and where I want. I tell know one what to believe I merely share my opinions. Put me on ignore if it bothers you.

Just read lionhawks posts in the thread I started about reptiles and if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you. And also complain to him/her for hijacking it, although I don't agree that is the case.

Try all you want to convince someone that their experience was not real. If you have not had experiences, then you do not hold the criteria to participate in this thread and it is unkind to joke about it.

Who is trying to convince people their experience is not real? I read through the posts, I must have missed it.

[Moxie]

Thank you Unified Serenity for this: "I was attacked one time in the physical having been brought out of sleep to fully awake. As I struggled to stop this attack, and before I could open my eyes, a voice which I recognized as a soul protector / guide told me to not open my eyes."

Exactly! Happened to me too that way... and invoking the highest level of inner power/guardians, it took flight! It was definitely weighted presence, held me down, powerfully, pain in both armpits...
And, I lost 2 hrs of time refusing to go to sleep again.. the clock measured 2 hrs previous time from the last check, that sort of thing...the most horrendous storm passed over the house and my mother & brother awakened to find me asleep on the living room floor (this was yrs ago, I was 23) and I didn't hear the terrible explosions of bowling ball thunder that woke them.

[mudra]

Mudra it may not have been your intent but it was very effective in sprinkeling "fairy dust" to put those back to sleep with imaginary dragons.

There are some who would love to bring their truth to the table...but now the imgage of Disney gives it discredit.


Brook it oviously did'nt .I noticed Lionhawk's thread a couple of days ago.It was left dormant. The fairy dust made it alive .
If I happened to look at the sun while another in the back woods got eaten by a snake would that make me less truthfull?
And if I would happen to be the one who got eaten by that snake would I carry more truth than the one who would happen to look the sun ?
I welcome all truth in my heart knowing that what I am looking at without are ripples on the ocean of my mind.
So I am gratefull for your remarks for they also are an expression of the truth.

Love Always
mudra

[Jacqui D]

Yes they were physical, they were solid, i could smell them also.
They were black/green in colour the elite one wore an helmet type on it's head so did not see it's face but it did have the dredlock hair but it is not hair it is their skin more like leathery when they move the head the dredlocks moved so they are loose. They are very quick heavy in foot.
they speak with a low tone very deep in sound.
he wore an armour type breast plate, he was an elite soldier the other one was a shapeshifter when the attack was over i was left in the hands of the other one basically your turn!!!
The second one was undercover he was there to rescue me, he marked my arm with a branding, i have been told it was a lasar mark but the mark was of the earth sign, at one with the galactic consciouness, since this encounter i have had no further abductions or predator attacks i have been told it was a "no touch" sign.

[Phtha]

Actually angel I do exactly the same thing you do.. and like you I will often see a chemtrail overhead which I can't help but get upset over. :mfr_lol:

I just hold strongly to the belief that we are moving into a much better time. We can't fix the system because it is corrupt at the core, so crashing it is the only way, and that is what is happening now.
I have meditated on the whole subject as detached as possible for many hours to come to that decision. There is no polarity, there is only love. We created the hate and fear, and when I say we I include all living beings in existence, but its just an illusion.. the fear. A real illusion, but still an illusion.. and an experience I could do without personally. :original:

That's my take in a nutshell.

Phtha... No offense taken whatsoever. I know that there is an abundance of love and beauty but at this point I rarely see it unless alone enjoying the beautiful sounds of nature... Until of course I spot a chemtrail in the sky which always seems to bring me back to this reality that I cannot stand... How do you do it?

[bushycat]

Brook it oviously did'nt .I noticed Lionhawk's thread a couple of days ago.It was left dormant. The fairy dust made it alive .
If I happened to look at the sun while another in the back woods got eaten by a snake would that make me less truthfull?
And if I would happen to be the one who got eaten by that snake would I carry more truth than the one who would happen to look the sun ?
I welcome all truth in my heart knowing that what I am looking at without are ripples on the ocean of my mind.
So I am gratefull for your remarks for they also are an expression of the truth.

Love Always
mudra

You opened the gate and they're marching on through with their stories.
Maybe the host just needed a hostess to light the candles and get things rolling.

Love Always,
Bushycat

[Humble Janitor]

For those who have seen reptilians, were they as evil as David Icke likes to portray them or were they like any other form of space brother/sister?

[Moxie]

Phtha wrote:.. "I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question. Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt..." and ..."I'm allowed to post when and where I want."

perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread.

you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you"

ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ?

Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

[Angel in Disguise]

Actually angel I do exactly the same thing you do.. and like you I will often see a chemtrail overhead which I can't help but get upset over. :mfr_lol:

I just hold strongly to the belief that we are moving into a much better time. We can't fix the system because it is corrupt at the core, so crashing it is the only way, and that is what is happening now.
I have meditated on the whole subject as detached as possible for many hours to come to that decision. There is no polarity, there is only love. We created the hate and fear, and when I say we I include all living beings in existence, but its just an illusion.. the fear. A real illusion, but still an illusion.. and an experience I could do without personally. :original:

That's my take in a nutshell.

I hold very strongly to that belief as well... Been telling my mom something HUGE is going to happen in my lifetime since I was 6yrs old... I think it is happening now. I feel it! I have always believed there should only be love but it is very contrary to what I see now... Love will prevail however... no matter how far away it seems :thumb_yello:

[Angel in Disguise]

For those who have seen reptilians, were they as evil as David Icke likes to portray them or were they like any other form of space brother/sister?
What I witnessed was not evil nor loving... It was just witnessed that is it that is all... Scared the bejesus out of us but no feelings were felt from it... It was just a sighting.

[Humble Janitor]

What I witnessed was not evil nor loving... It was just witnessed that is it that is all... Scared the bejesus out of us but no feelings were felt from it... It was just a sighting.

Ok. It pays to not dismiss such sightings as it's not fair to those who have seen things. Thanks for sharing. :)

[Jacqui D]

although my experiences with these two reps were not good i do not think all reps are bad.
As in humanity there are good and bad this i feel is the same with reps.
I have heard it said that reps help humans not all have an agenda to be killers, flesh eaters as it has been known.
I am just stating this is what happened to me the purpose of this attack was a pay back scenario as in true predator style he marked himself also a bit like the notch on the bedpost!
I have lost the anger i felt i am focussing on love for all creatures now as i said before there are good and bad in all.:wub2:

[Angel in Disguise]

Ok. It pays to not dismiss such sightings as it's not fair to those who have seen things. Thanks for sharing. :)
Hmmm.... Not quite sure what to make of your response... Please elaborate :wink2:

[Phtha]

No apology necessary. I love heated debates myself, I often learn a lot from them.
Of course I feel fear, you are right it is hard wired. I am talking about the state of fear rather then the reaction of fear though. I'll try and be more clear.
The other day I was running down my usual route and right beside me a huge crashing sound was suddenly at my left. My heart jumped and the initial reaction was bear or something (I've seen a few on my runs before). But it was a couple of young deer just as frightened as I was. I can only imagine what it would be like to be confronted by something much worse.

Living in a state of fear, believing that the bear will jump out everytime I go running... that is what I am referring to... and that is a state I will not allow my self to live in. I have full control of that.




perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread.

you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you"

ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ?

Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

[Jacqui D]

This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested.


http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/th_strangemarkfullwidth.jpg (http://s383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/?action=view&current=strangemarkfullwidth.jpg)

http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/th_SS100714markonarm.jpg (http://s383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/?action=view&current=SS100714markonarm.jpg)

http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/th_strangemarkhighlighted.jpg (http://s383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/?action=view&current=strangemarkhighlighted.jpg)
Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

[Ammit]

This is the earth symbol, also known as the sun cross and solar cross. Mother earth.

[Angel in Disguise]

This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested.


http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/th_strangemarkfullwidth.jpg (http://s383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/?action=view&current=strangemarkfullwidth.jpg)

http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/th_SS100714markonarm.jpg (http://s383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/?action=view&current=SS100714markonarm.jpg)



http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/th_strangemarkhighlighted.jpg (http://s383.photobucket.com/albums/oo272/unicorn8753/?action=view&current=strangemarkhighlighted.jpg)
Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

Interesting... Do you know what it means?

[Ammit]

As above and also Hopi medicine wheel.

[Ammit]

Soory i forgot, also the norse sun symbol.

[Jacqui D]

I do that is all that matters, yes it is the earth sign also and it is the rosicrusion sign too.
I wanted it made clear my story was backed up with a picture of this mark so now i have posted it.

[Ammit]

My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

[Wormhole]

I've had two experiences. One wide awake, 25 years ago. I saw a Rep in my room with me. It's like being in a cage with a tiger that is about to spring. I was very afraid. It smiled or grimaced at me. It's knees were very bent and it was in a springing position, only about three feet from me. I had a very good view of it. It simply vanished after several seconds.

The last experience was last winter. There were two Reps, both had false skin on their faces and were pretending to be human skiers. One asked me if I wanted to see it's eyes, I said yes. It showed me and then pealed back a layer of skin and showed me the scales underneath. The scales were pale, not dark like before. I felt that these two may have been half-bred with humans. I was not afraid this time.

They showed me a creature that had a very warped skull. A human? Not sure. I was asked if this creature deserved to be loved. I responded that all creatures deserved love and were loved by god. This seemed to satisfy them, and they left.

Peace of Mind through the Heart,
Wormhole

[Ammit]

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

[Angel in Disguise]

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

Cheers to that :thumb_yello:

[Wormhole]

About that symbol. It is also the symbol of those who are born on the summer solstice, which ironically is also the symbol of my birth. I was very interested to see it here.

Worm

[Moxie]

Phtha wrote: "...Living in a state of fear, believing that the bear will jump out everytime I go running... that is what I am referring to... and that is a state I will not allow my self to live in."

Well then, do not surmise that we live in that state. I will tell you that my experiences did happen but I do not live in a state of fear because of that... you have taken that assumption about "us"... but I will mention that I perceive your "care", a protective mention from you in your remark above... thank you, maybe you should have stated your stance in that measure before.

That's a "given" okay? That said... I will offer that these experiences have not happened to me since I was in my 30's.. was it a result of denial?... a result of rebuke?... dunno... this thread is about sharing experiences.

I actually hired someone, $200 for 90 minutes consult because I suspected my military upbringing to be the avenue that I was manipulated... okay, so I was a dumb-asss.. nevermind... we look for answers... it was along my path toward dependence on my own inner thread to Truth, which I will admit, is now a "knowing", not a belief.

I am not worried, nor do I live in fear. Fear happens but it's not my foundational life premise, far from it. I have enough conviction that fear does not reside ...

yet I'm not defective enough to think that fear will not appear in my 3D experience, nor that I will find myself immune from it.

Might as well mention, that too, I have had many, numerous experiences of high lighted, sure footed affirmatives in this life to way exceed these few frightful experiences... I am not "had".

thank you for hearing me.

[Phtha]

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

Good point Ammit. It's always important to remember that we are all on the same side here, despite our differences of opinion.
well... unless some of you are working against the human race, then I'm not on ur side. :nono: :lmfao:




About that symbol. It is also the symbol of those who are born on the summer solstice, which ironically is also the symbol of my birth. I was very interested to see it here.

Worm

Yah it represented a lot of things to the ancients, a powerful symbol, some that I recall. 4 seasons, 4 cardinal points, 4 cardinal virtues, 4 limbs, 4 elements, 4 races..

[Phtha]

Thanks Moxie, I didn't mean to imply that anyone in particular was living in that state, I can see how I came off that way though so I appreciate the opportunity to clear that up. I try to post as best I can without making it personal for anyone. (I fail often as I menetioned lionhawk in this thread already) Not easy as I'm sure we are all aware. Also it is so often easy to pick up the wrong emotions when reading text as we are missing a lot of what communication involves, sound and sight, and smell too sometimes. :naughty:

I think this thread is great and I am very curious to hear as much as possible on the subject. I thank everyone for sharing what they have so far.



Well then, do not surmise that we live in that state. I will tell you that my experiences did happen but I do not live in a state of fear because of that... you have taken that assumption about "us"... but I will mention that I perceive your "care", a protective mention from you in your remark above... thank you, maybe you should have stated your stance in that measure before.

That's a "given" okay? That said... I will offer that these experiences have not happened to me since I was in my 30's.. was it a result of denial?... a result of rebuke?... dunno... this thread is about sharing experiences.

[Ammit]

Quote [Good point Ammit. It's always important to remember that we are all on the same side here, despite our differences of opinion.
well... unless some of you are working against the human race, then I'm not on ur side. ] PHTHA

Difference of oppinion is life my friend, no mortal thinks the same nore wants the same. We all live and think differently because we are, different.

So, if others are working against the human race, then.... you are not on MY side.?
Well i dont want you on my side , I want you to take care of your own side, look after number one first, then look to helping others. I have one side my friend, the human race and my concerns for it.

Ammit

[Jacqui D]

Thank you Ammit your kind words have been taken on board.




My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

[Unified Serenity]

Thank you Unified Serenity for this: "I was attacked one time in the physical having been brought out of sleep to fully awake. As I struggled to stop this attack, and before I could open my eyes, a voice which I recognized as a soul protector / guide told me to not open my eyes."

Exactly! Happened to me too that way... and invoking the highest level of inner power/guardians, it took flight! It was definitely weighted presence, held me down, powerfully, pain in both armpits...
And, I lost 2 hrs of time refusing to go to sleep again.. the clock measured 2 hrs previous time from the last check, that sort of thing...the most horrendous storm passed over the house and my mother & brother awakened to find me asleep on the living room floor (this was yrs ago, I was 23) and I didn't hear the terrible explosions of bowling ball thunder that woke them.

I was also about 23 at the time of that attack. The feeling reminded me of a great pressure one would feel if deep in the ocean. It was like being taken from surface to 300 ft down in a second. I couldn't breath, I could not move and all I could do was work energetically. It was such a heavy weight on me like it would crush me to death. I do think it had planned on me opening my eyes and causing some sort of heart attack or something that would kill me.

Obviously it did not work.

[Ammit]

Just when people were being honest it stops, oh sorry 1AM. Yes i think i will join you sensible people in bed time.

[Wormhole]

Jacqui,

Have you had experiences with other races? I know there are those of us out there that are dealing with several differing types and others who are only in touch with one particular race. I'm curious as to what your story is with respect that you have been branded with the very same symbol that I was born under (the fact that we are both experiencers is not accidental in my view).

Peace of Mind,
Worm

Ammit,
at some point I would be interested in a clarification of your last comment. Thank you.

[Lionhawk]

If it has anything to with Disney, it's Satanic. You can look it up and research that out. Another place I also avoid. It's in that same bucket with Denver International. Oh, by the way, I live here in Florida and I have done what I needed to find this out. I just didn't read it online somewhere. I got out of my chair. Talk about a mind manipulation program. Fairy dust? I don't think so. Then to bring in the snakes in the back ground? I saw the snakes even before that was mentioned. Make a note. It won't work no matter how hard you try. I felt the love that wasn't love. That kind of love only wants to control. There is no other way to put it. And for those under the spell of that fairy dust, wake up! You can change or project the appearance, but you can't change the energy signatures that define it. Even my street instincts picked up on the response of something like a snake trying to get away by making up lame excuses with diversionary tactics. If the shoe fits, which in this case it doesn't, then wear it as it stands. (snakes don't wear shoes, duh?) I also knew it was coming but I didn't know how it would be played out. Now that it has, deal with it.

Some might subscribe to turning the other cheek. That was a mis print in the Bible as that was edited by the Roman Catholic Church. It's one thing to be slapped once, but to be slapped twice is unwise. Which means if one is wise, you will learn the lesson the first time. If you need proof of this, then let a bull ant parachute down, while you are bent over and your smile is showing, and as he stings your right cheek twice, and you turn the other cheek, I guarantee he will sting you twice more. One thing is for sure and that is your pants are going to be flying off you in a split second and you will automatically be on a seek and destroy mission before that bull ant heads for the family jewels. Don't believe me and may I suggest you don't have to prove this one either. Sometimes you just have to use plain common sense. It has nothing to do with mind manipulation. It has to do with a bull ant raising hell in your pants. I also wouldn't advise looking that up in the Bible as this is occurring.

I do have a doctrine. Guilty as charged. But not one based in the disinformation that one particular individual wants you to believe. I don't want anyone to go out and even believe what I have to say. Common sense would tell you that you should prove what you subscribe to in the first hand. I tried to point that out in this other thread that was basically disinformation. It's bad enough it was a copy and paste job, written by someone nobody knows, brought here and it was presented as second hand, but the person who brought it here didn't want to face the fact that this little article at best was a tiny piece of the puzzle. Also to say that myself and others experiences were basically lies and we were spreading a doctrine based in fear. Sometimes, it's like being in a barn with some people. You just know it doesn't matter what you do, how hard you try to reason with them, apologize to them, avoid them, try to run from them, you will still end up with that stuff on your boots. Call it a smear campaign after wards. All because someone believes this information is so without any experience to back it up and at best is mere speculation. Then to justify it by changing things said out of context to twist it into something else just reminds me of the fear this person really has and is trying to hide in the first place. Kind of like that lawyer approach used on me where I said trust me and I was being literal. Then to say you fear nothing as this lawyer innuendo would seem to fit more appropriately. It's very transparent as to how this second hand information can create the real fear. But you know what, I'm going to put another log on this fire? All I can say is grow up and man up and if you can't do that, then go find someone who can help you understand what just went down. Like maybe your mum.

Hey the bottom line is this and don't take my word for it as there seems to be many now coming out and trying to tell you that their experiences were not only fearful but in sheer terror. I am not a fearful person. I don't go out and spread fear as I am against it. But I can not help it if these bastards can make you poop your pants when you have an encounter. That's why I said I made an exception to the rule. Anyone in their right mind does not want to experience fear, terror, pain, or other negative attributes. Now you might if you are not right in the head. Your choice. But the fact is these experiences can be filled with terror. Fear is a boy scout compared to terror. The encounter is just the beginning as this is carried on in that life till death. Also if it happens more than once you can multiply by 10 each time.

Then at some point you get tough. You are so tired and exhausted from being afraid all the time. Rejected by friends and family, alone, disoriented as to what should be normal, and whatever else that accompanies the misery of being alive. Then to top it off with some small mindedness from some bi-peddled creature that thinks he/she is a human being pushing you through a gauntlet of intimidation, dis information, dis respectfulness, and that list can go on and on. Then here comes the test of whether or not you exercise compassion of that ignorance or those other thoughts that will just land you in jail.

I was just saying to a friend of mine this morning as to see, who will decide to make a stand and put a log on the fire and then tell their story. This thread sat for two days and nothing. I know it wasn't fairy dust that kicked it off. If you believe that you surely are in your own la la land. Sorry as I can't candy coat it and it sounds like I am being a little harsh, but that is not the case. I'm just speaking straight up with no hidden agenda. If anything I am glad people have come out and have claimed their sovereignty, by saying we aren't going to be compromised by small mindedness any more. Stand back and look and see this fire that is burning in ONENESS! Tended with REAL LOVE. That's what I'm talking about! This is exactly what it is going to take to turn the tables around so that we can establish Unity on the Planet. With one voice. The beauty of it is you can change your destiny and shine your own light forth. But in order to do that you have to take responsibility for your own pain and clear it. We will all lead. There will be no followers.

Do you want to bring Heaven to Earth, or do you want to live in this hell hole as it is? Then if you want to see this beautiful Planet achieve her right to ascension, stop being a pain in the butt! Get real. Or Get out of the way.

Pete said something about asking for the truth? How many here have been answering your requests? Has everything been answered for you?

Protection? Not to be dramatic (which I know I will be accused of anyway) but there are several things one can do but if you don't know how to Bless the things around you, how do you expect to protect yourself? So in all honesty if I told you how, you might not understand that (and I wasn't being condescending). It's the working of energy. Everyone does it differently, so it will depend on you and how you manage it. Now if your talking of protection being provided to you from the outside, that is different. I also found it to be temporary as energy seems to also work like a flashlight where it eventually dies if you just leave the switch on. (that was a clue) It's teachable but it has to be taught like, proving it out. You take that second hand info and prove it. Piano theory/scales, Science theory/lab, it goes hand in hand. (another clue) If you don't prove this stuff out that you subscribe to, then there is no real power behind it. No foundation to stand on. Once you prove it in the first hand, then you know. It is no longer a belief. Now tell me when you know something is an absolute. Which one would you take to the bank? Something you know or something you believe in? Where's that fairy dust at?

Also, just know I really would like to acknowledge these people who have come forward in this thread. Sharing their stories. Their stories take precedence over any of the other things said and even what I have said in here to set the record straight as far as I am concerned. These are your heroes that have been neglected for so long. There's more of them too. Unless you have experience the terror (and I'm not saying that to spread fear) that these people have faced, you really don't know what the hell you're talking about when it comes to this subject. These people lived it in the first hand. They would also love to share it if you are willing to hear it with an open heart, and not one that is closed off. They don't want you to believe it or experience it either. They also know why that is and if you look at it with some common sense, you will learn. When you learn from the heart you can't go wrong. With that, I guess I better get ready for the wrestling match that is going to come down the pipe. I haven't had time to even get to my story, but that is because I have been distracted to having set up some kind of foundation to where no one will feel threatened with their testimony. Savy? But there is one coming soon to a theater near you.

Namaste' to everyone.

[Wormhole]

Lionhawk,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for starting this thread. Many of us have started similar threads a year ago and had little response but found each other privately. I am glad to see so many of us out in the open and making important connections. There are others out there to be sure and I hope that they will come out and add more important information to this thread.

I have a question for you. I am aware from your posts in previous threads that you have also been in contact with other races. I have as well. I am curious if the other Rep contactees have also had multiple race contacts. I am looking for similarities in our experiences.

Thank you.

Peace of Mind through the Heart,
Wormhole

[BROOK]

Hay worm...have I told you how much I love you lately?

Love ya girl!

[eleni]

Multiple race contacts here. Jacqui- that is very interesting to be branded in that manner. How long did the marks last? My oldest has that symbol (a Norse symbol) as a tatoo.....she is also an abductee......

[Wormhole]

Brook,
:wub2:
I want to thank you for putting this thread back on track early on!

Eleni,
Which races? Thank you so much for responding!

Jacqui,
Do you feel that the branding was a sacred symbol with the power to ward off threats, or a brand saying, "Do not touch, she's already been taken care of" as in a brand of meat with a tattoo, "this is grade A beef, "already inspected". Sorry to be so blunt.


Peace of Mind through the Heart,
Wormhole

[bushycat]

Every post here about these experiences has been brave and open. These sharings are met with great compassion, I'm sure, from everyone at Avalon. No one could know your experiences without having had similar. And it must be good for you to compare notes and know that you are not alone in this world or in this forum.

The lightness at the front of the thread to bump it and later in defense of the lightness seems to have been taken as an afront to some participants. Over and over at Avalon we say that all levels are the place to be for each and every one who reaches his/her level. We support one another and remind one another to carry on. We also know that feeling VICTIM does not serve us in our lightness of being.

The traumas of 3-D life are many. Some are horriffic. One of us was shot from the sky to defend his country,a broken arrow survivor who is not bitter. Some of us have been raped or harmed in many ways by those we trusted. And so on. But we face those traumas to lose fear and then we rise and realize we are never victims.

Venom does not have a place here. Snake stories maybe, but not venom.
And reptilian stories need to be here- that's the thread!

The author of this very interesting thread said @ bill of light thread, "The template of oneness is the reality embracing all." Wow. A master of words who seems to have become angry in this setting. Maybe the vibrations of the reliving these frightening episodes is effecting us all.

I, for one was delighted when those who wanted to speak here did so. I actually thought the moment of lightness and wayward humour loosened up the tongues like maybe a flute of Champagne. Silly me.

If the anger persists, then I've wasted your time and my time here.
I think each and every one of you has a rich and unique aspect of this scene we're playing out.

With Great Love,
Bushycat

[Lionhawk]

Your reply was expected Bushy Cat. I wish I was wrong on this as I didn't go looking for it. It came looking for me. All I am doing is pointing it out. I am not angry if that is your perception. I'm also not going to try to convince you other wise. You're a big Cat and you will just have to figure this out for yourself. You speak about a master of words as if I'm the one manipulating all this. I'm just setting the record straight and doing what others have not done because they know what I have said is something that they have wanted to say because they also know but didn't want to say it. This is about the dark and the light and the real tragedy is that the dark are using the light to disguise and manipulate their agenda. Detach your emotional body, step back, take an objective look at what has been happening here and then see it for yourself. Again appearances can change but the energy signatures can not be changed and if you could only see these energy signatures as I and many others have seen, you would not go down the road you find yourself on in the now. I also say that with much compassion as I am not leading anyone to BELIEVE this. If you are spiritual, then your light should have no problems cutting through the darkness to find this truth. It could be because of an emotional attachment that you have here and you may feel hurt. The truth can do that and it can even make you mad as hell, but it was never my intention to even let this surface in the way that it has. I wasn't the one who pushed it to this level. That level was already here and that is what happens when good people get used to the conditioning of their environments and no longer can see what has been pulled over their eyes. A true friend will stand next to you and not compromise you with emotional attachments that are sugar coated. They won't take advantage of your intent and most importantly your heart. Whatever you do at this point is very important and you should no longer accept being compromised by what is now happening here. This was caused by duality. Not by oneness. It is with a great hope that you can sort this out. If you are not able to read the energies then at least use your common sense and extreme discernment. Things are not what they appear on any level. Also, if I was angry, I could have just lashed out and give some people here a real piece of my mind, as an emotional reactive backlash. I didn't do that. I was truthful as to how all this came about. My intentions were in the right place and I stand firm in that. But that was taken as a weakness. I am not the victim here despite the attempts. But don't ask me to turn the other cheek. Because then it is to late and I will not be compromised again for a second time as I have that right to protect myself. Hopefully we can go forward from here as much light came out in this thread yesterday and today, that demonstrated that it can happen as long as we do make a stand and claim our sovereignty and no longer settle for compromise as the status quo. Remember it is a choice and that choice is before you in the now.

Namaste' Bushy Cat

[TraineeHuman]

I have encountered reptoids a number of times, in the 4D or 5D sphere. There have been several occasions where someone else has also seen such a being, and mentioned that to me without any prompting from me. However, all the reptoids I have encountered seemed and indeed proved to be enormously positive and benevolent and intelligent.

If a person encounters one and they react with fear, then their own fear will colour the whole experience as negative. One thing not everybody realises is that our "ego" (or what Eckhart Tolle calls our "pain-body", or what Jung called our "shadow"), or what I would call "the unhappiness within us", is a living being, possessing a certain degree of consciousness. It is a part of us, created wholly by us, over the course of our present lifetime. (This is well known in all the spiritual traditions. And e.g. Tolle specifically mentioned it at one point.) So if we feel like our body is being pinned down by the weight of another being, for example, it can quite easily be that thing inside of us that is doing this -- and not any being external to ourselves.

One thing is certain: fear by its nature always creates a distorted or false perception of reality.

[iainl140285]

I remember your story in full JackieD. Souded truly horrible:sad:
Im glad you managed to find help:original:

[Lionhawk]

I don't see the hateful as you have described it. Again, I just pointed it out. If that is how you perceived it as an attack. Snakes have venom. To deny that isn't reality. I'm not picking on you when I say that. How do you get beyond victim hood if you are not allowed to talk about it? This subject just might not be for you is all. It isn't to say your free speech isn't being honored here. Why do you think this subject has become what it has become? Because of free speech. Free speech to those who have been ridiculed etc. and have not been allowed to bring it out in the light because there are those out there who don't want you to bring this out in the open. So for you to say that doesn't make much sense to me. The results should be proof enough for you as you can clearly see them in this thread. Also note that I just didn't go off and didn't do the back ground work before I spoke up. Again, you seem to have an emotional attachment that would seem to be sugar coated. I can't take responsibility for that despite your feelings there. I wish that wasn't the case for you. You should be most welcomed everywhere to say what you want. If you feel different, may I suggest you put yourself in any of the shoes here just to see it from another perspective instead of just seeing it from a singular perspective. I think your perspective may change if you tried that. Something is hurting you here and I know you weren't attack but you are acting like you have been. That would bother anybody who cares. Why do you feel like you have been attacked? Why would anyone attack you? Something is not being said here, even though I am trying to connect the dots. None of this is a waste of time. Unless you want to believe it is. It's a not free will zone if someone comes across changing the context of what you say and twists it to degrade who you are. How many times has that happened here? You want me to just keep on taking that kind of abuse? Because someone feels like they have the right to impose their will over you? Is that what you are telling me I should do? Just so the ones who keep doing this kind of thing can keep doing to others as they have been so that free speech is not going to be allowed unless they have to put up with a bunch of persecution? Because that is what I am fighting for. It has nothing to do with hate. It has everything to do with FREE Will. No one has taken that away from you here and if you feel that way, then you are playing the role of the victim and that sucks in my mind. Take a step now and reverse that and get unstuck from your paradox. To be compromised because of the conditional love one may display is not true love. It is merely superficial and will lead to compromise. That's what makes it an attachment. The condition applied to it. Maybe we are both tired and should sleep on it. Sincerely......

[Ammit]

Over my lifetime I have been subjected to many strange things. If you remember some of my earlier posts you may understand what I am trying to say here.

I have had my house visited many times, been followed by things that give off a smell and a sense of loathing, stood in horror at seeing a huge shadow race around my house like something possessed. Seen shadows follow my grandchildren and my young son, I know they sense it the fear in there eyes say it all. Watched awestruck at seeing "glass people" walk through walls and windows. Woken in the night in a state of uncontrollable fear with a sense I am being watched while sleeping. I have even hidden in my own home because the over powering fear was so strong.

These experiences I am willing to disclose to you, others, I will not as I cant realy seem to find the courage.

I will not claim these feelings or experiences were due to reptillian beings or alien forces, but none the less it was something or someone.

I hope this makes sense...

Ammit

[Lionhawk]

Ammit,

Talking with someone earlier this evening, we may have figured out how one may have felt constricted. We think what they might have done is compressed the auric field of a person. I always had thought because of their telepathic abilities, that they were doing this inside one's head. Now I am thinking differently on this. Just a thought.

Wormhole,

Thanks for your warm welcome. You mentioned other races? Other's have asked me the same question and after answering over 100 emails today, I can't remember who ask the question. But I think if you have an experience with probably any species, you will also be opened to others as well, including dimensional types. I think it is how one manages what one experiences, that will determine how open those doors are. I met one who was abducted by the Greys, that he was so freaked out by the experience that, he closed his mind off from other probabilities.

To answer you question, I have met Plejarens, a species of grey with suckion cups on the end of their fingers, Orion Reps, Draconians, those Black hole agents, and some dimensionals.

[Anchor]

This forum is not a war-zone. The debate in this thread is mostly of very high quality but some of the posts are attracting complaints.

This forum doesn't run into much trouble these days and moderators don't have to do too much - practically the only thing I ever have to do is sound off like a broken record and remind you not to fire your words at the messengers, but fire them at the messages.

Each word that each of us writes, utters or thinks are creations for which we are responsible at every level - including the effects they have on other people whether they be intended or otherwise.

Other than to sound of, I am sorry I won't join this debate. I have no experience (that I remember) of any kind of reptilian terrorism on my person. I see lots of reptiles in Australia though and they are marvelous to behold - definitely at one with the land. I try to take good care of my "Astral hygiene" so perhaps and hopefully I won't be seeing any lizzie nasties anytime soon - from what I read here I can consider myself jolly lucky.

I wish all of you who have suffered and even continue to suffer these contactee experiences soon find that eventually the experiences transmutes to wisdom and also that by the grace, love and light of the one infinite creator you can be well protected and guided in your future dealings with these things - if that is what has to happen for you; or that by your growing power and intent you can stop them.

A..

[mudra]

Anchor thank you for stepping in and to put the balance of the thread back into the light and wisdom it should have.
There can be great pain , suffering and hardship occurring in the field of the mind . This in itself is creating separateness.
However the real challenge is to take the necessary steps to outgrow this as a soul and find that space where peace and Love for all that is prevails.

Love Always
mudra

[Lionhawk]

I concur! When things get to serious we ought to lighten up with some humor don't ya think? Humor for the soul. Now if you are a Reptilian Experiencer, you might not want to run into these guys. :lmao: Enjoy and be happy!



YouTube - funny cartoon

[mudra]

I concur! When things get to serious we ought to lighten up with some humor don't ya think? Humor for the soul.

YouTube - funny cartoon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3L__3Z5A4g)

I sense a shift took place from mind to heart .
You have all my respect.
Blessed be your thread Lionhawk .

Love Always
mudra

[Lionhawk]

Yeah, thanks for Blessing it.

[Jacqui D]

Adding to my post because things have been said some have said there piece and now i will say mine.
I do feel that the impression that this is in the mind is very detrimental to the person when some have never had these experiences, my spiritual self did not bring this entity in because of some self impression i had to fulfil because of my state of mind and to face or feel fear/terror etc.
Actually i think i dealt with the situation at the time with a lot of constraint. When a large creature looms over you and tells you they have been looking for you for a long while well it kind of makes you think why me!

I am not a religious person but do believe in an all empowering creator being energy which all life has been formed by.
So i believe that there are good and bad in all races/species.
as i said before i have dealt with that attack it is over with done. I'm not looking back simply to scare put fear in others just saying because the thread was started that i have seen and encountered reptile type creatures.

Worm, no i do not think myself of a piece of meat thank you to be branded and used as such, i realise you want the answers but you have got it totally wrong.
The branding was put there by the second rep which i knew was a shapeshifter what race this shapeshifter was i can not say but it was there to rescue me i have no doubt about that at all. The shapeshifter gave me healing at the time.

I have learnt many things about myself since i have been on this journey and it's been a long 56 years.
There is a certain race here today that have incarnated for a special reason i now know this, these individuals are continuously being stopped with their work and attacked by other races/ military.

Eleni, i have seen greys also and because of the nature of my abilities seen many other species not seen on earth but what i would call dimensional beings i can not define which because i am still trying to find out more about all this.

I would just like to say we have to accept these things are happening how can we as a race ever evolve if we can not be open to others experiences.
I would like to send love to all races they are all the creators children.:wub2::wub2:

[BROOK]

Jacqui D...I haven't seen you write this much in a long time...it's good to see your energy here and working...thank you for sharing what must be ingrained in your soul...and what a beautiful soul it is :wub2:

I myself am learning much from reading this thread....and now the truth of what is happening to the ones we love is surfacing.....keep it up....it will only empower you!

Blessings
brook

[BROOK]

Each word that each of us writes, utters or thinks are creations for which we are responsible at every level - including the effects they have on other people whether they be intended or otherwise.

A..

This is a powerful statement Anchor...."intended or otherwise"
We must remain on the path without distractions...seeking truth in oneness is key here

[BROOK]

The forum is not a war zone..but make no mistake there is a war out there...one that the people on this thread have pointed out...had the courage to describe the battle.

They would love the change the world..but don't know what to do..so they compare experience, and take note of terrifying experience....not a "love in" by any means or stretch of the imagination.

society has told you where is sanity...with the innuendo that this must not be so....it lies in the imagination....only love is real...to wash away the significance of the pain and terror.

But oh yes...war is real...in the 3d...it's okay to kill in the name of "terrorism"...it becomes just..but is no different then the experience of the ones here telling the same story. That is not just..there is no platform to follow...no rhyme or reason given...just the experience of those that would share.

We'd love to change the world...but don't know what to do...so I leave it up to you...sounds like a song

YouTube - Ten Years After - I'd Love To Change The World

The only way you're going to change the world is to uncover the truth..expose the lies....seek the truth..no matter how hard it is to accept.

These recall experiences are as real as it gets...and until they are dealt with, and exposed for what they are...the
Disney image of what they feed our children...the programing..will continue.

These things go hand in hand...the programming of the massed to disregard what is right in front of their face...yet choose to ignore ....I myself want this truth to come to the surface...I want to "know"



http://demarcusar.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/mermaid.jpg

Again I thank you for sharing what had to be extremely hard to share..but itching to come out. We need to listen carefully to what is being said here...no matter how painful it might seem

I want the illusion to end


:wub2:

[Ammit]

Well, i am not far off the time I can fire up my free energy source so I suppose they will be back again.

[chelmostef]

Brook; I have never noticed the phalic looking object in disney, is there more of this??

Im sorry if I came across in the other thread as not believing people posts. I can only contemplate how tramatic these experiances could be. There is a dividing with Icke, Alex Jones, David Wilcock to name a few.
I can also see how this subject could/has been be used to divide people..A statment would be to say "what camp does one come from?" I am both camps. I very much like Wilcock and I really like Icke.
I think the other thread was started to show how a thing of this magnitude could be turned around and used to divide. Not as a admission to the fact that the experences where made up or false. This is how I saw it.
I realy hope I will never have to go though what some of you have had to go though.

Jacqui D; That mark you have is fascinating, its amazing you can share what you know with us. As is/are the experences of others too.

Ammit; I realy hope not, I will be thinking of you and sending protection for you from me, I hope this will help..

Stef

[Ammit]

Many thanks Chelmostef, you mention marks well I years ago had a trianagular mark, never new where i got it but stayed for about a year then just drifted away. Was always red like it was sunburned.

[BROOK]

Brook; I have never noticed the phalic looking object in disney, is there more of this??



Stef

Yes...



http://www.subliminal-messaging.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/disney-the-rescuers-subliminal.jpg

http://www.subliminal-messaging.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/disney-subliminal-roger-rabbit-jessica1.jpg

http://www.subliminal-messaging.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/disneysex.jpg

http://www.subliminal-messaging.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/little-mermaid-priest-subliminal-messages.jpg

[Christo888]

Well Brook I'm glad you said what you said... this thread has some dark energy coming through it!

This similar energy I recognize, as I experienced it when I lived in Florida and met many people from all over the state as I traveled for work there years ago. Florida is one of the most 'mind programmed' areas around with all the microwave defense and 'other' systems transmitting egregious frequency's. Witchcraft, voodoo, sorcery, black arts, deception agents, and the like as well are very prevalent there, and what I consider a real 'Area 51' but without a fenced in arena that can be identified. That being said there are of course spots on this planet that are both conducive to higher energy fields for upliftment and also dark spots for negative energy comfort zones that allow dark forces to operate within. Even the art of conjuring up monsters into 3d is quite the battlefield obviously... adding to my own wondering how this is so, I met a man in a metaphysical group in Florida and he showed me how he pulls in energy, of anything, or anyone, and can transmit that energy elsewhere. He even gave me a copy of a dimensional matrix that he engineered in order to open dimensional portals, he was very casual about the whole process yet he himself was always tormented by monsters and shooing them away (many people I met there were like that). And of course the more he explained and talked of his experiences the more I had picked up his **** and had to spend a lot of time myself removing that energetic imprint.

But I have to side with the 'Fairy Dust' depiction in a beneficial way!!! I'll explain the best I can... The symbology represents that of an alchemy that transform the dark dimensional experience whether 3d physical, or other dimensional mental, and transmute the experience from having continued attention drawn to it day after day which then energetically gives it life and can be passed on to others. No experience is being discounted, but the experience can be an exercise in learning how to remove the residual energy so that the experience no longer resides within the individual or mind in order to hold that energy imprint for what could possibly create more similar experiences down the road, by both the holder of the experience and/or any others whom come into contact of the experiencer. Symbolically Gold is the power of Divine Intelligence and allegorically is the shining light of creation… perhaps the Golden Light like a sprinkling of Gold Dust-fairy dust is literal tangible sunshine and transforms all that come into contact with it into a new upliftment of what ever is newly imagined for a changed present.

Cleansing the mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual body's from residue of experience may not be a practiced habit per se by many at all. But the desire to burn up the effects of these experiences and images does wonders for a renewed outlook on life and provides an opportunity for creating a life one does desire devoid of the effects from outside negative influences that may continue to follow someone or remain as a vivid image and actual experience. For me a field of Violet Light burning through all my body’s and dimensions made a huge difference in neutralizing negative energy fields and from experiencing residual effects later on. Also focusing on a sparkling Golden glow all around me and everyone else I see or come in contact with raises the localized frequency or energy field. I don’t know if it works the same for anybody else but maybe it is just the focusing on something else that removes the negative and creates the positive, a permission of empowerment to create anew and disintegrate the unwanted! And absolutely continue to expose all of them that are, and all that is, hidden!!!!

[eleni]

At the sake of repeating myself.....(and thanks Brook for those links that clearly show the programming aimed at the youngest members of the human race) don't BUY their products, WATCH their media, buy your children THEIR kiddie porn toys and movies, etc; etc; keep away from their goods as though they are poison (which they are) for your body/mind/spirit.

Don't DRINK their WATER or EAT their FOOD, use their DRUGS/MEDS etc;!!!

They want your children's young minds and souls!! And then they too can be fully plugged into their *reality*.

[Ammit]

Sorry Eleni I dont quite understand.

Are you saying die, because if we dont eat, drink or take life saving meds (untill we understand things and can cure ourselves without there help or meds) we would die. Surely there must be a better option here?

[Karen]

Sorry Eleni I dont quite understand.

Are you saying die, because if we dont eat, drink or take life saving meds (untill we understand things and can cure ourselves without there help or meds) we would die. Surely there must be a better option here?

Hi Ammit,
Perhaps you missed a keyword - "their"- "don't BUY their products, WATCH their media, buy your children THEIR kiddie porn toys and movies, etc; etc; keep away from their goods as though they are poison (which they are) for your body/mind/spirit. Don't DRINK their WATER or EAT their FOOD, use their DRUGS/MEDS etc;!!!"

There are other options. Grow your own food. Get with local organic growers. Buy from small organic companies not owned by Big Agri Biz. Buy nothing in a package with a huge (or small) list of additives and chemicals.

Get a Berkey filter (I rigged mine to drip into a gallon glass jar rather than stainless steel where the water tastes like metal to me.) Find a local unpolluted spring and fill glass bottles.

No don't stop lifesaving meds cold turkey, but look for options. LOOK at the HEALING properties of food - just plain food. 2-4 sticks of celery per day can return blood pressure to normal. Red foods like beets, raspberries, etc. can help shrink tumors. Blue foods, like blueberries can reverse age-related declines in motor skills and cognitive function. Eat the rainbow of colors of food every day.

Go to a herbalist for help getting off the drugs. Go to a homeopathy doctor. Sure our medical system is stunning as far as trauma care like when you crack yourself up in a car wreck, etc. But most "life-saving drugs" are a big con job. You don't need them to save your life. If you are depressed - there are 4 or 5 types of depression. Each needs a different natural therapy of vitamins, minerals, amino acids, herbals, etc. Maybe all you need is a special indoor light in the winter.

Learn how to find and harvest local WILD food - it's energy is different from cultivated. Learn to ferment food for a robust health boost. Learn about raw produce, dairy, etc.
Get some sunshine every day and take off those crazy sunglasses - and the prescription lenses and contact lenses - humans need natural, full-spectrum light entering their eyes and hitting the retina, which is attached to the brain, the glands and the nervous system.

No you can't do it all overnight - just work at it, day by day. Get out of their matrix step by step.!

[BROOK]

Good advise Karen :thumb_yello: Thank you

Does anyone out there know of the significance of the Human/Hybrid and the purpose of such a being? Are these beings being produced by the Reps? or other alien species?

This subject boggles my mind...for what purpose are they being produced?

[Christo888]

Good advise Karen :thumb_yello: Thank you

Does anyone out there know of the significance of the Human/Hybrid and the purpose of such a being? Are these beings being produced by the Reps? or other alien species?

This subject boggles my mind...for what purpose are they being produced?


Watch the second season of 'Fringe,' 4 episodes so far. May bring some interesting light to the matter.

http://www.hulu.com/search?query=fringe&st=1

[BROOK]

Thanks Christo888 :thumb_yello:
I realize that much is theory..but would like to know if anyone has experience dealing with this subject...I'm going to watch right now...thanks :thumb_yello:

Update: That's not fair :mad3: You can only watch the trailer!...And it looks pretty good :mad3: Cristo...you got stock in HULU? (just kidding) :lmfao:You have to buy the season.....hummm :tears:...oops..nevver mind..I found it ...duh

[eleni]

Right Karen,
The correct word was *theirs*. As far as water tech goes - it's good to get a filter that removes/erases the *memory* of it as municipal water carries memory.
As far as meds- there are other options. An organic whole foods diet is the best health insurance policy as is daily exercise.

I grew up this way (organic whole foods diet plus zero medications) so I know it can be done and I've raised my own family this way.

Even if you live in an apartment you can do indoor gardening (sprouts and such) and have potted gardens and such on the terrace.

[BROOK]

wow Christo..that was pretty good :thumb_yello: But it is Hollywood fantasy...and i think the Lab location is actually the front of my son's high school in north Hollywood. :lmfao:

The dimension traveling and shape shifting was interesting...but again...mercury in the blood...nah....I'm really interested in the biology of a human/alien hybrid...the DNA and its ability to actually shape shift, or possibly mutate.

[Christo888]

wow Christo..that was pretty good :thumb_yello: But it is Hollywood fantasy...and i think the Lab location is actually the front of my son's high school in north Hollywood. :lmfao:

The dimension traveling and shape shifting was interesting...but again...mercury in the blood...nah....I'm really interested in the biology of a human/alien hybrid...the DNA and is ability to actually shape shift, or possibly mutate.

Yes Hollywood adds their entertainment value to skew a little but great framework nonetheless.

Like blowing on embers in a fire to heat them back up... Ahhh everyone has their front row seats and popcorn!:partytime2:

I remember sitting on the beach in the middle of the night and watching the baby Sea Turtles hatching to scramble out of their nest heading for the water, the little critters were all over the place trying to find their way to the water.

But they only came out at night at the darkest possible moment to sneak past the predators...

Who really knows what will happen and when?:roll1:

Have Egg Tooth will travel!:lol3:

Brook did you watch all 4 episodes of second season?

[eleni]

Brook- they told me they are us- we are you-
but here is what I personally think (BTW- in numerous abductions of mine normal to larger sized *men* are disguised for me as men in various uniforms- police- fireman etc; they have been doing this to me since early childhood. I had not seen those type since early childhood until this past summer in one abduction which involved genetics on my part.

Here is the words that actually came out of my mouth (usually during an abduction I only speak or rather try to speak via my mind as most times I am communicating with *blank* entities that don't want to hear my thoughts) but I saw *them* coming for me- they disguised themselves as firemen and I said
"oh ****, here come the geneticists".

I think they (the reptoids/Nordics) are geneticists and are creating some weird type of drone/human for unknown purposes.

It seems very odd that they would mix grey plus humans but that's what appears to be happening- maybe for an earth takeover or to take to another dimension/system.

Who really knows and has proof? I would love to seem some hard facts around this.

We as abductees are *told* certain things but those can be total BS and designed to manipulate us. Or there could be certain grey and reptoid overlords that are more benign and creating genetics because that's what they do?

[BROOK]

Oh boy...the geneticists of the Universe...I had a dream about that :shocked:
A very real one....almost too real.

[eleni]

Really? Do you want to elaborate? I understand if you don't.:original:

[Christo888]

Silly thought .... but is it plausible that Earth is the perfect breeding petri dish, a perfect Convection Oven, for most or all species/hybrids/races/you name it, for experimenting, continuing, orchestrating master species/races in order to take back to their respective planets of origin? :zip:

Kinda like a group hug of sorts, then break huddle and go back to populate.:shocked:

A Universal Garden!

[BROOK]

Okay...remember it's a dream...but I wrote it down...like it was a movie or something involving me..here goes

theyare not involved directly with this area of the universe...or things as they presently are occurring....they are considered the geneticists of the universe.. they are themselves evolved from genetic assistance and that is why they all are strangely different in appearance (which is a whole other block of information) ...but the same base gene pool so to speak. That is not how it was exactly explained but sometimes putting words to the information given that is the best way I can describe it. Primary purpose is to genetically create from every species the perfect electric body....this part is difficult to explain in words as well but that is the best I can describe it. It has been also shown that the natural chakra system (electric body) of the ordinary human...is not the same as mine....electric body is different...and because of that...as I was developing that is why later in life ..as the electric body got more developed....came the allergic reaction to certain metals...silver for example....and certain compound metals.
Was also shown that there is great love from them...they have an overdeveloped what you might call heart center which was the purpose for the initial program, to develop that attribute in conjunction with the electric body.
The electric body is supporting the biological development and increasing regeneration cells...when completed the birthing is complete.


Just a dream folks..but very strange

[BROOK]

Silly thought .... but is it plausible that Earth is the perfect breeding petri dish, a perfect Convection Oven, for most or all species/hybrids/races/you name it, for experimenting, continuing, orchestrating master species/races in order to take back to their respective planets of origin? :zip:

Kinda like a group hug of sorts, then break huddle and go back to populate.:shocked:

A Universal Garden!

That is a very good possibility :naughty:

[Wormhole]

I think it is important to note that Jacqui's symbol seems to protect. Others who are being harassed may want to make a symbol to wear, put over the bed, or incorporate in their clothing. Also, the half bred Reps seem to be OK and the shape shifters (and perhaps others) do have those with in their ranks who are working for the light, white hats in disguise.

Please share other experiences.

People who are faced with these Reps are also experiencing other entities of other races, seemingly unrelated to the Reps, and seemingly not dangerous. Raise your energy levels and lay down your own terms of contact. If you are strong, I do not believe you can be harmed. Be your first line of defense, bless your area and food before you eat it. Write your own contract. IF you have given them permission in the past, let them know that it is NOT OK NOW.

Peace of Mind, strength of Heart,
Wormhole

[eleni]

Interesting dream Brook, thank you for sharing that!

This is from Dan Winter:
http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/emotion.html

[BROOK]

OMG Eleni...this was in it too...
has become a major vortex for the wars sweeping the Galaxy between Orion/Draconian vs. Pleadian vs. Andromedan civilizations.

I have never read this until now..:shocked:
It's almost like the dream isn't it?

[Wormhole]

Brook,
didn't mean to break your train of thought. Interesting dream. Now here's a thought, but I do not know.

"Harvest" reminds me of food. Some food can be gained from negative energy, some food may literally be the soul or soul energy. Food could also just be flesh and blood food. I imagine that being part of a "Harvest" would not be such a good thing. We are told that the "Harvest" is coming. We hear things in dogma (remember that religion is here to control us) about separating the wheat from the chaff, to be fruitful and multiply, to obey.

What if these guys came here, outside of the original creation, to use this "garden" as a food breeding ground. The more people, the more food. The catholic church is against birth control, and the WHO seems to want to kill us off in mass amounts and make more money in the process.

Harvest.

I know this isn't daisies and fresh flowers, but we need to talk about this.

Peace of mind, Strength of Heart,
Worm

[Christo888]

Interesting dream Brook, thank you for sharing that!

This is from Dan Winter:
http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/emotion.html

Hey Eleni where did ya get that??? :thumb_yello: That is so cool. :doh:

Does it come in kindergarten speak though?:lol3:

[Christo888]

Brook,
didn't mean to break your train of thought. Interesting dream. Now here's a thought, but I do not know.

"Harvest" reminds me of food. Some food can be gained from negative energy, some food may literally be the soul or soul energy. Food could also just be flesh and blood food. I imagine that being part of a "Harvest" would not be such a good thing. We are told that the "Harvest" is coming. We hear things in dogma (remember that religion is here to control us) about separating the wheat from the chaff, to be fruitful and multiply, to obey.

What if these guys came here, outside of the original creation, to use this "garden" as a food breeding ground. The more people, the more food. The catholic church is against birth control, and the WHO seems to want to kill us off in mass amounts and make more money in the process.

Harvest.

I know this isn't daisies and fresh flowers, but we need to talk about this.

Peace of mind, Strength of Heart,
Worm

Ya the poor little Sea Turtles ... bird food, shark food, or hatching during the day cooks them... only 1 in a thousand make it!!!!

[BROOK]

Interesting dream Brook, thank you for sharing that!

This is from Dan Winter:
http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/emotion.html

So here we sit, somewhat folded in the higher cortex wrapped around a reptilian stem. If we succeed, in overcoming the knee jerk reptilian emotion fear/anger and aggression, then the galaxy will have succeeded in putting Reptilian DNA broad spectrum & high leverage emotion into the service of love and compassion. The perfect geometry of compassion which permits waves to touch then stalbilizes the spirals of galaxies into the perfect embedded flame of life.. el-eye-phi (El turn into Eye focus of Phi recursion). Reptor, Raptor, Rapture, Wrapped
That is an awesome article...thanks for sharing Eleni

[BROOK]

Brook,
didn't mean to break your train of thought. Interesting dream. Now here's a thought, but I do not know.

"Harvest" reminds me of food. Some food can be gained from negative energy, some food may literally be the soul or soul energy. Food could also just be flesh and blood food. I imagine that being part of a "Harvest" would not be such a good thing. We are told that the "Harvest" is coming. We hear things in dogma (remember that religion is here to control us) about separating the wheat from the chaff, to be fruitful and multiply, to obey.

What if these guys came here, outside of the original creation, to use this "garden" as a food breeding ground. The more people, the more food. The catholic church is against birth control, and the WHO seems to want to kill us off in mass amounts and make more money in the process.

Harvest.

I know this isn't daisies and fresh flowers, but we need to talk about this.

Peace of mind, Strength of Heart,
Worm

This is a very frightening possibility as well..and makes good sense when you look at religious doctrine :shocked:

[Christo888]

This paragraph seems to align with one of the 'ramblings' in the Handbooks from George Green to a tee, but without identifying any particular group or race... :thumb_yello:

"... The Andromedan Council recently participated in a conference at an
undisclosed location, which included representatives from Sirius B and the
Orion Empire. No Dows (Greys) or Draconians (Reptilians) were evidently
present at this meeting. The discussion apparently revolved around the
subject of territorial rights and quadrant title to certain parts of our Galaxy
by those from the two groups. The Andromedans spoke on behalf of those
from this sector, and asked that Earth be left alone so that we could be
allowed to evolve. They further stated that their whole race was prepared to
support the cause of Earth. The humanoids from Sirius B became very
upset at this prospect and promptly left the conference after this statement
by the Andromedans, although the humanoid representatives from the Orion
system remained. The final results of the conference are not known at this
time..."

http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/emotion.html

:original:

[BROOK]

Y


Brook did you watch all 4 episodes of second season?
Just watched the last one...didn't realize it was the last one until I went to the next one...again..duh

That is a rockin show..I will catch the others though..in order this time :lol3:

[BROOK]

This paragraph seems to align with one of the 'ramblings' in the Handbooks from George Green to a tee, but without identifying any particular group or race... :thumb_yello:

"... The Andromedan Council recently participated in a conference at an
undisclosed location, which included representatives from Sirius B and the
Orion Empire. No Dows (Greys) or Draconians (Reptilians) were evidently
present at this meeting. The discussion apparently revolved around the
subject of territorial rights and quadrant title to certain parts of our Galaxy
by those from the two groups. The Andromedans spoke on behalf of those
from this sector, and asked that Earth be left alone so that we could be
allowed to evolve. They further stated that their whole race was prepared to
support the cause of Earth. The humanoids from Sirius B became very
upset at this prospect and promptly left the conference after this statement
by the Andromedans, although the humanoid representatives from the Orion
system remained. The final results of the conference are not known at this
time..."

http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/emotion.html

:original:

So from reading this...would it be deemed possible that there are those out there that are the "good guys"...and just what the heck are they doing about this other stuff...are they waiting for us to wake up you think? For a major shift ..like the one we have all been experiencing? Or for an evolution to take place?
Or before we get eaten by these creatures? :shocked:

[Christo888]

This paragraph seems to align with one of the 'ramblings' in the Handbooks from George Green to a tee, but without identifying any particular group or race... :thumb_yello:

"... The Andromedan Council recently participated in a conference at an
undisclosed location, which included representatives from Sirius B and the
Orion Empire. No Dows (Greys) or Draconians (Reptilians) were evidently
present at this meeting. The discussion apparently revolved around the
subject of territorial rights and quadrant title to certain parts of our Galaxy
by those from the two groups. The Andromedans spoke on behalf of those
from this sector, and asked that Earth be left alone so that we could be
allowed to evolve. They further stated that their whole race was prepared to
support the cause of Earth. The humanoids from Sirius B became very
upset at this prospect and promptly left the conference after this statement
by the Andromedans, although the humanoid representatives from the Orion
system remained. The final results of the conference are not known at this
time..."

http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/emotion.html

:original:

Holy **** that is some compassionate bravery!!!!:shocked::shocked::shocked:

An entire race has put themselves on the line for Earth!:mfr_omg:

And to allow all those living here to be sovereign beings having dominion over Earth in cooperation, and not be ruled by any system outside of Earth, and not having any system enslave the population already here on earth!!!!!!

No pressure though anybody!!! :lol3:

:shocked:

[Lionhawk]

Anchor wrote,

"Each word that each of us writes, utters or thinks are creations for which we are responsible at every level - including the effects they have on other people whether they be intended or otherwise."

As your avatar name also should, imply by definition, it should also be added here. As in anchoring. The anchoring of energies is also a responsibility and that has been over looked in this thread. Those who have done this, know exactly what I am talking about. For those who don't understand this have reacted from an emotional basis of the duality template, because they don't know of this knowledge. If they did then what has happened here in this thread would make perfect sense to them. But because they don't understand it, they perceive it as hatred or anger when you point this out by exposing this truth. If you post in a thread and what you post has an evil energy signature to it as innocently as it might appear, you just anchored that very evil to this thread. Many have been compromised because they can not see the damage that is being done, because it was presented in such innocence. They say the Devil loves us all. The Devil deals out duality. And that was is his signature. The assumption or presumption that one is not of oneness because the Devil doesn't have a clue what oneness is, becomes very evident by using words of separation by acknowledging the movement of what he, the Devil is self realizing, in himself in the very name of love. In duality there is always a switching back and forth. It's how the Devil can hide himself. There is no switching in the template of one. What you see is what you get.

This forum is not a war zone. But what is going on behind it is. When I say behind, please don't change the context of what I just stated. When I say behind it, I am saying behind everything. This forum is a portal. A window and we gather here at this window and compare notes. The battlefield is everywhere and this forum is just a window, to perch on the sill. Also when I say behind, I am not talking what is behind these window panes you call threads as far as window management goes. The window management does a good job keeping the panes of glass clean. But make no mistake as they are not perfect either and may not know all there is to know as to the tactics that the darkside operate on. They are only trying to keep the glass clean for our benefit.

But make no mistake as to the injustices that happen and what we observe on these panes of glass called threads. When you anchor something to the pane of glass that is evil, it is evil, and so don't get your emotional body all twisted up when I say HEY, lookie here guys. Don't let your emotional feelings cloud your judgment, because then when you do that and you lash out and call someone hateful or angry, you are only facing what is within you already.

So understand this when I say, I am not being hateful, I am not angry, and there is nothing wrong with my temper. If you continue to bring these things to my attention is all the forms that you have sent me as of today, it only validates what I have said all along. They are only reactions to things you are not aware of. That's all they are to me. So if you seek an apology, apologize to yourself as to how you have allowed yourself to be compromised.
That is not what I stand for. So when you think I had attacked someone, and I repeatedly said I was pointing it out, now you might understand what I was talking about.

I don't know about you, but I don't want the Devil loving me. This forum is just like a bus terminal. Have you been to one lately? The same things going on over there are going over here. No difference. Also everywhere else. The thing to be great full for here is who you know. We have good mods here and a bunch of great people here as well. All we can do is make the best of it. I am good with that and as I have said, I have an open door policy. I am all about your free agency, you rights to free speech, etc. But don't bother coming through that door if you will not honor mine. I'm just saying.

Just know I know what has been played here in this thread and it has only validated what I already know. I have seen other threads that go through similar things with the same results. All you can do is make notes of that and go on. Forgive, move on, don't keep a grudge, and also never forget that there are lies on every level.

PEACE!

[Wormhole]

Lionheart,
Many of us experiencers would wish that you would return to this thread as a participant rather then as an observer. I hope that you may consider this, and help to educate the ernest seeker with your experiences. It would be valuable.

With deepest respect,
Wormhole

[BROOK]

I second that :thumb_yello:

[no caste]

Does anyone out there know of the significance of the Human/Hybrid and the purpose of such a being? Are these beings being produced by the Reps? or other alien species?

This subject boggles my mind...for what purpose are they being produced?


Hi Brook - I've been picking up crumbs on THE WATCHER'S and James Casbolt's threads about this. For some reason, I've read both threads pretty consistently since this forum started. So, here are the crumbs. (I'm pretty sure it won't make sense, as I don't have a coherent line on it myself.)

It seems there's an AI (artificial intelligence) backfire (?) with memory programming. Genetic material is sliced and diced to such amazing detail, like nanogenetic petri experiments, e.g. Dulce/Dachau, between species and whatnot. Memory can be laid down basically like CD's in 'enhanced' humans, the Manchurian Candidate types called units, not sure if they're all cloned from human (Nazi-ish?) donors, in new beings (hybrids) etc. There are probably walking plants who talk to computer turtle whizzes. The enhanced humans/agents perform the soldier duty behind the scenes with bad aliens - but now nobody knows who's-who anymore. Someone over arched on a 1930's alien Treaty. I won't venture a guess as to where they're from I have no clue. It may have to do with the desire to replicate themselves due to extinction prospects. Everyone's sick of them. That's what the FEMA camps may be for.

The reptilian experiences may or may not be programmed. The government does/did abductions, human genetic experimentation in collaboration with these whoever they are's. Human women are impregnated both with alien and human clone DNA - then washed (memory) and maybe programmed with weirdo alien fiction, the CIA/NSA UFO Factory at work, the babies taken away. The manipulation of memory to cover this all up is the main thing. But it's the body marks, gut knowing, bruises, nightmares, it's not going smoothly like the Mengeles expected. Now it's a big **** show. Someone else (alien I think) was involved in this too, liked to eat up the 'food' and drink the 'milk' - a weird unwelcome guest at an already putrid orgy.

I haven't had a reptilian encounter. But the mechanisms for all of these soldier training programs, kidnapping, deaths, experimentation, torture, using women randomly (or not so randomly probably) for breeding objectives could shake anybody's soul. I go through terror on behalf of these imaginings. So, for anyone who has signs, marks, been abducted, by these true terrorists - they have my full sympathy. I think details are emerging. I hope they do anyway.

As for pixie dust, here's a type that's more nefarious. I think mudra was just trying to kick off the thread, because it was just sitting here with no responses for a while. That's my opinion anyway. It's hard for people to contribute to an experiencer thread with no experiences. Anyway, I'm sure mudra speaks for him/herself just fine. I just wanted to give my slant. (I hate most of disney too - don't get me going.)

Baggywrinkle/ Pixie dust is real...
The new secret technology winning the war in Iraq is "Smart Dust", RFID tags that can be easily tracked when stuck on the enemy. The identification of the enemy is the key phrase in Woodward's cryptic comment below.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10028

I worked in an GPS-y environment (not govt), so I know there's a lot that can be done with biometrics, RFID, tracking, surveillance, sat imaging etc.

[Christo888]

"...Forgive, move on, don't keep a grudge, and also never forget that there are lies on every level..."

Good point Lionhawk!:thumb_yello:

[Wormhole]

All we can do is be honest and true to ourselves and others. That is the best we can do. Beyond that, it's all opinion.

Peace of mind through the heart,
Wormhole

[no caste]

As for my own experiences, they weren't reptilian. I may have had a skin biopsy from space. Anyway, I have a small scar (round about 6mm diameter, it was deep and there's a wee dent now) on my left back shoulder. Because it was so deep, say, 3mm, at first I didn't notice a smaller second one near it.

I went to the doctor at the time. He looked at it and said, 'That's weird.' He had no explanation and it healed fine. For a while, I was angry and wanted my skin back, but what can you do.

[Carol]

I came in contact with a woman several years back by the name of Pat Smith who claimed to have had contact with the reptilians and had 6 hybrid children as a result of what transpired. She wrote a book which was focused on an alien hybrid contact, which I read and I also spoke with her on the phone about her encounters. Her story was intriguing and filled with insight with respect to her hybrid children and their human adolescent behavior which wasn't going over very well with the old reptilian guard. However, what stands out from my many conversations with numerous contactees and abductees is this... just because they are alien and their metal abilities surpass current human mental abilities doesn't mean they are any more spiritually evolved then some humans.

These beings are not god. They too are on a spiritual evolutionary path and sometimes the best way to fight the negative elements in them is to pray for their spiritual growth and development. Remember the saying, "pray for your enemies?" It is my experience that by entering into ones own heart and opening up to compassion in the deepest purest sense is the only true way to defeat that which seeks to instill fear. This is not an easy task. I know in the past when I have felt them around... my initial psychological, emotional and physical response was fear... then intense anger because I refuse to be afraid... and then when I'm out of that fear mode I'm able to move to compassion. Odd, isn't it? I can't speak for others experiences when it come to contact with some of the more negative elements yet I have personally known people in the worst possible of circumstances who pray while in the midst of traumatic situations and they come out far less damaged then those who don't.

Personally, I'm very saddened for those who are traumatized by these situations and hope those who have gone through something feel safe to share their experiences here... and that those who are responding stay in the mode of compassion.

Time is short. Pat did say many of the reptialians and her hybrid children were returning to their planet of origin. And then there are those who are still here. As with any race, not all are evil. I think it is that concept and recognition that gives me hope we will all eventually grow spiritually beyond our own personal limitations and come to recognize that we all come from the Divine and all have a purpose.

[Christo888]

As for my own experiences, they weren't reptilian. I may have had a skin biopsy from space. Anyway, I have a small scar (round about 6mm diameter, it was deep and there's a wee dent now) on my left back shoulder. Because it was so deep, say, 3mm, at first I didn't notice a smaller second one near it.

I went to the doctor at the time. He looked at it and said, 'That's weird.' He had no explanation and it healed fine. For a while, I was angry and wanted my skin back, but what can you do.

Flesh eating disease microbes from the chemtrails???

May they all be neutralized and of no effect.:thumb_yello:
3X

[Christo888]

Must see video!!

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16985

[BROOK]

I came in contact with a woman several years back by the name of Pat Smith who claimed to have had contact with the reptilians and had 6 hybrid children as a result of what transpired. She wrote a book which was focused on an alien hybrid contact, which I read and I also spoke with her on the phone about her encounters. Her story was intriguing and filled with insight with respect to her hybrid children and their human adolescent behavior which wasn't going over very well with the old reptilian guard. However, what stands out from my many conversations with numerous contactees and abductees is this... just because they are alien and their metal abilities surpass current human mental abilities doesn't mean they are any more spiritually evolved then some humans.
~~~~~~~~~
Time is short. Pat did say many of the reptialians and her hybrid children were returning to their planet of origin. And then there are those who are still here. As with any race, not all are evil. I think it is that concept and recognition that gives me hope we will all eventually grow spiritually beyond our own personal limitations and come to recognize that we all come from the Divine and all have a purpose.

6 children and their all hybrids?...how does one deal with that? That is an amazing story Carol...thank you for sharing it

[no caste]

Flesh eating disease microbes from the chemtrails???

May they all be neutralized and of no effect.:thumb_yello:
3X

Maybe :original: It happened overnight! But.....

At about the same time as this 'biopsy'/biopsy happened, I was doing these interesting sufi experiments about the nature of the milky way and how things look visually when spinning and so on. (I was not stoned, apart from my bad cigarettes habit.) I tripped up - talking about my feet here - and maybe hurt myself then. Not really sure. I was dizzy and into the moment. I actually don't remember it, if it did happen then. Still, I'm not sure why falling might create such a symmetrical little wound, with no bruising.

Anyway, apologies here. This is off-topic, not reptilian.

[Christo888]

Maybe :original: It happened overnight! But.....

At about the same time as this 'biopsy'/biopsy happened, I was doing these interesting sufi experiments about the nature of the milky way and how things look visually when spinning and so on. (I was not stoned, apart from my bad cigarettes habit.) I tripped up - talking about my feet here - and maybe hurt myself then. Not really sure. I was dizzy and into the moment. I actually don't remember it, if it did happen then. Still, I'm not sure why falling might create such a symmetrical little wound, with no bruising.

Lol... I hope they don't have videos of us as we suddenly and randomly spin and then try to keep our balance. :lmfao:

They probably have their own version of AFV on that subject!:lol3:

[Carol]

Hi Brook,

Pat's story was amazing. Her six hybrid children are with the reptilians. She has a telepathic link with them. Last I spoke with her she was going to start on her second book. I'll have to go through my library to track down the title. She worked for the government so I wasn't surprised that she had been selected as a breeder. I just think there is far more then any of us can possibly know given how much mind control and deception is at work. Hopefully, we humans will grow into our own telepathic abilities and the time for secrets will come to an end.

[BROOK]

Hi Carol

I'm more then ready for that time :thumb_yello: Over due in fact

[Lionhawk]

Sorry Wormhole. I have been very busy with emails in regards to this thread. It isn't that I am purposely trying to neglect what is now flowing here. I see a lot of good things happening here that are finally going in the right direction as was intended in the beginning. Also I have other matters of concern that I must maintain that I am involved with that take priority. But we have manage some how to stay on top of everything. Hopefully today I can participate much more here. :wink2:

[Luminari]

Hopefully, we humans will grow into our own telepathic abilities and the time for secrets will come to an end.

Hi Carol

I'm more then ready for that time :thumb_yello: Over due in fact


:winner_first_h4h:

[Jacqui D]

Originally Posted by Carol
Hopefully, we humans will grow into our own telepathic abilities and the time for secrets will come to an end.
Quote:
Exactly Carol, no secrets then, once we have achieved our full potential once again that which was taken from us, there will be no need for lies, deception.
Can you imagine what that will be like!
That will blow the mind!
Knowing what your fellow neighbour or friend is thinking about you! oh dear how will people cope.
Well they are going to have to change, become the loving ones we once were, selfless/always helping others, teaching our children, or perhaps i should say our children teaching us!
Because the childs mind is pure open to love and harmony, we bring this through you see but this connection is so quickly lost!

I think a lot of people would get a shock if they knew just how big the hybrid agenda is.
Yes this planet is a mixing of races none of us know just what we have in us but one thing is clear we all hold a little reptile in us in our brains this is reptilian do not forget that.

So i'm trying not to think too much these days lol!!!! :naughty::naughty:

[rhythm]

reptilians or no reptilians

i love you all ....

and i dont mind a few scales (can add interest )

all will come to love ..

balance the scales ...:lmao:

in service to the one rhythommmmmmmmmmm....:wub2:

[Jacqui D]

I actually agree with you rhythm, love all races i have said this so many times now, there is good and bad in all races look at humanity! humans can be bad too!
But i would like to go back to the energy i once was before this body found form and took over. The soul encapsulates the spirit, once the soul is forced open and the true spirit released we will return to what we once were.
My mind is open to all theories i like to hear the many versions of our existance it teaches we learn while in this human form but for me i wish to return to my spiritual energy at one with everything.





reptilians or no reptilians

i love you all ....

and i dont mind a few scales (can add interest )

all will come to love ..

balance the scales ...:lmao:

in service to the one rhythommmmmmmmmmm....:wub2:

[Jacqui D]

This is sent to everyone here on avalon from my heart.:wub2::wub2::wub2:







YouTube - The essence of life 2009

[Lionhawk]

What amazes me is that there have been what appears to be, good experiences with these Reptilians. I can only assume that these experiences are related to a Reptilian faction of the original Orion group. I understand that there is a Reptilian planet that is now peaceful. I speculate that this was the original group that were different than the Draconian group. But raised as much hell as the Draconians. They could have been one of the same when they were first dumped here and when the Orion wars broke out these two groups had split off from each other. I also speculate that when this great war was coming to it's end that was when the split took place. It didn't happen over night and it could have been a disagreement. I also hear that another faction who did not agree with the majority of the Reptilian group, broke off from it and came this way. This group broke off because they couldn't let go of previous ways or ideologies. This is the group that has aligned themselves with the Draconians but is still sovereign from them. Keep in mind that this is speculative.

So when I hear of a good experience, I am doubtful or skeptical. I am not ruling out the possibility. But if it is a good experience, it could have something to do with the idea that you are family to them in human form. But you are of their lineage. I can wrap my head around that. That makes sense to me.

What I have ingrained within me is a streak of distrust. I don't even trust the so called peaceful ones. Maybe my experiences have just hammered that in there. I have a prejudice that I have been trying to over come for a lot of years. Not one of hate, but of distrust. In the last few years, I have for lack of better words, tried to even negotiate with them. The them being the Draconians. Try testing that idea on yourself.

Just a few years ago, 2004, a ship was dispatched from somewhere and it's destination was Antarctica. The ship was loaded with supplies and an army of like I have never seen. Somewhere in this thread there was mentioned something of combat gear. This army was on the scale of their very best. Just one of these soldiers could take on at least 100 Navy Seals. They had combat gear on. Now add that to their abilities and technology and super soldier to the extreme comes to mind. The count of 20,000 comes to mind. The only thing I could do at the time was interfere with their ship. I did that and delayed their arrival by Earth time standards of 4 days. So they were floating in space for that amount of time. They were heading here from the Orion sector. But they still arrived and there has to be a base there as there was an exchange from the ship to that base. Mind you this is only 5 years ago. Also there is no telling how many have come and gone since then. Or even before then. So I am speculating that there is a large army underground somewhere and the South Pole region is their doorway. But what are they doing gathering here in large numbers? What are they preparing for?

Now someone might get on their fear based bicycle. I am not trying to spread fear here. This is about the AWARENESS issue as to the probability. But what if no one sees anything like this as a possibility? Then when it does happen, how are people going to react then? The greatest weapon is that of surprise. You can take out large numbers with that kind of element. Without a large contingency. The movie Independence Day is really not that far fetched when you think about it. Like the chess game where you position your pieces and then you pounce. I also hear that they have 100,000 on Mars. I don't know the validity of that. So what I am thinking that it isn't just about the ruling of Earth, as it is more the ruling and complete domination of our Solar System.

Now I can hear all the new age people say that they are going to only focus on these higher plains of conscientiousness and duality doesn't exist and blah, blah ,blah, and stay in that sugar coated wonderland. Well, if you are here in the physical realm just like the rest of us, and you can't dematerialize yourself because you can't accept that we live in a place governed by duality that goes on and exists in even higher dimensions, you will just be trapped here like the rest of us. So if you can't dematerialize right now, let that reality bring you back down to the planet. Whether you want to face it or not, aspects of duality go even passed the 12th dimension. It is one of their greatest weapons of mind control to inform people that there is no such thing of duality. When that happens, the concept of the Template of Oneness, can not be realized because it is now hidden. So in that sense you become the sheep and are asleep as they want you to be. So if you don't embrace all that is, you become trapped in the very duality you deny. If you can see that Oneness is the only sane way, you will just end up as a statistic or a food source.

For me it is like the issue of disclosure. Can't you disclose it for yourself? Why do you need to hear from some leader on the hill to still believe it. Believing is not proof. It isn't a matter whether UFO's exist. That has already been disclose. Same thing with the disclosure of whether or not Reptilians exist. For the experiencer that question is surely answered. Disclosure becomes a non issue. It is what happens afterward from that experience that reveals the purpose of that encounter. That's where the real story manifests itself.

It all breaks down to Awareness. If your awareness is defined by the box that your conscientiousness resides, you have the power to expand it. When you do, you will be able to see a broader view of what is really going on. Knowing that as your awareness increases, the sum total of your knowledge also decreases. So if you hear a limited view point, know it is because of the awareness factor of that individual that is defining it.

Which brings us back to the now. For the experiencer it is also a matter of how you process the experience. Whether you allow the terror to limit your being. The trick is to get passed the terror. What happened to me was very terrifying and you can only carry it for so long. You become exhausted from carrying it. You get tired to the point that you come face to face with a choice. That choice is whether you want to continue living in fear/terror, or do you want to be liberated and free from it. That is the pinnacle point. If you can use that very fear to motivate you into freedom, then you can become and then start doing great things of the spirit.

A small example. I use to be a rock climber. Rookie. One day on a certain climb, I learned a small lesson. The climb was a difficult one. Rated as a 5-9. 5-11 being the most difficult. The climb started out and then you went into a spread eagle. As I proceeded upward, someone mentioned that no one has been able to go straight up through it. Well, being a young buck, I decided I was going to go straight up through it. About 3/4 of the way up, I encountered a ledge. I knew once I got passed the ledge I was home free. Mind you, I was up about 150' off the base. I then took my left hand and grabbed the edge of the ledge. At which time I heard the most peculiar sound. I heard a rattle. I immediately detached my hand from that edge. Now if you can imagine being up 150' (which is nothing) and hanging onto a rock, with a timber rattle snake in your path. What are your choices? You could go back down or you could go up. Talk about a rush. Talk about fear. But here you are in a very dangerous situation with the possibility of death in either direction. I spotted off to my left a finger hold that was barely there. Also outside of normal reach. I then had to take my left foot and placed it higher than my left shoulder on the rock. The little bumps were about a foot above where my foot was placed. My right foot was bracing the other side of the rock. I then used my right leg to spring myself up and Iin a second I grabbed the small bumps with three fingers, pulled my myself up, using my left foot as a pivot point and sprung myself up. I was on top of the cliff in 3 seconds. Under normal circumstances, you could say it was physically impossible to do what I did. I didn't make it straight through that climb like what was mentioned. But I am alive to say I didn't. I used that fear to get me to the top of that climb. If I didn't embrace it, I probably wouldn't be here today. After that I had no more fear. It was released.

Same thing with these things. The bottom line is I know through the Template of Oneness, that connection is all that I need to over come anything I may come across. Telepathy becomes an instant reality. You don't have to train for it. You can leave your body in an instant. You can know anything that you question, that you seek. All you have to do is be sincere about it. Intent. The is-ness as Alex Collier calls it, is what it is. It isn't sugar coated either. It is the expression of creation in it's perfect form. We are all of that and when we shed our stuff, we can then operate as such. But mind you we are anchored to this Planet, and there is a reason. A much larger reason than most are aware. We are surrounded by many hidden agendas and if you increase your awareness, these agendas will come into view.

Become aware. Know that what people are bringing forth as to their experiences is about bringing that into your awareness. You don't have to believe it. Because as you increase your awareness, you will know it for yourself. Just make sure you are connected first before proving it out. If you do that, you will be able to share it with others. Also it might be a better experience for you.

[mudra]

Buddism and Evil
By Barbara O'Brien

Evil is a word many people use without thinking deeply about what it signifies. I'd like to compare common ideas about evil with Buddhist teachings on evil, if for no other reason than to facilitate deeper thinking about evil.

Over the years I've observed that people speak and think about evil in several different, and sometimes conflicting, ways. The two most common are these:

Evil as intrinsic characteristic. It's common to think of evil as an intrinsic characteristic of some people or groups. In other words, some people are said to be evil. Evil is a quality that is inherent in their being.

Evil as external force. In this view, evil lurks about and infects or seduces the unwary into doing bad things. Sometimes evil is personified as Satan or some other character from religious literature.

As I've said, these are common, popular ideas. You can find much more profound and nuanced ideas about evil in many philosophies and theologies, eastern and western. But for this essay I want to focus on Buddhist teachings and explain why Buddhism rejects both of these common ways of thinking about evil. Let's take them one at a time.

Evil as Characteristic

The act of sorting humanity into "good" and "evil" carries a terrible trap. When other people are thought to be evil, it becomes possible to justify doing them harm. And in that thinking are seeds of genuine evil.

Human history is thoroughly saturated by violence and atrocity committed on behalf of "good" against people categorized as "evil." I dare say most of the mass horrors humanity has inflicted upon itself have come from this kind of thinking. People intoxicated by their own self-righteousness or who believe in their own intrinsic moral superiority too easily give themselves permission to do terrible things to those they hate or fear.

Sorting people into separate divisions and categories is very un-Buddhist. The Buddha's teaching of the Four Noble Truths tells us that suffering is caused by greed, or thirst, but also that greed is rooted in the delusion of an isolated, separate self.

Closely related to this is the teaching of interdependent origination, which says that everything and everyone is a web of interconnection, and every part of the web expresses and reflects every other part of the web.

And also closely related is the Mahayana teaching of shunyata, "emptiness." If we are empty of intrinsic being, how can we be intrinsically anything? There is no-self for intrinsic qualities to stick to.

For this reason, a Buddhist is strongly advised not to fall into the habit of thinking of himself and others as intrinsically good or bad. Ultimately there is just action and reaction; cause and effect. And this takes us to karma, which I will come back to shortly.

Evil as External Force

Some religions teach that evil is a force outside ourselves that seduces us into sin. This force is sometimes thought to be generated by Satan or various demons. The faithful are encouraged to seek strength outside themselves to fight evil, by looking to God.

The Buddha's teaching could not be more different --

"By oneself, indeed, is evil done; by oneself is one defiled. By oneself is evil left undone; by oneself, indeed, is one purified. Purity and impurity depend on oneself. No one purifies another." (Dhammapada, chapter 12, verse 165)

Buddhism teaches us that evil is something we create, not something we are or some outside force that infects us.

Love Always
mudra

[BROOK]

Buddhism teaches us that evil is something we create, not something we are or some outside force that infects us.
Mudra...I did not create War...yet it exists...I cry when I think about it..and I'm here to tell you right now..I DID NOT CREATE IT!
So what exactly are you trying to convey here?

[no caste]

What I have ingrained within me is a streak of distrust.

Not always a bad idea or streak IMO.

Just a few years ago, 2004, a ship was dispatched from somewhere and it's destination was Antarctica. The ship was loaded with supplies and an army of like I have never seen. Somewhere in this thread there was mentioned something of combat gear. This army was on the scale of their very best. Just one of these soldiers could take on at least 100 Navy Seals. They had combat gear on. Now add that to their abilities and technology and super soldier to the extreme comes to mind. The count of 20,000 comes to mind. The only thing I could do at the time was interfere with their ship. I did that and delayed their arrival by Earth time standards of 4 days. So they were floating in space for that amount of time. They were heading here from the Orion sector. But they still arrived and there has to be a base there as there was an exchange from the ship to that base. Mind you this is only 5 years ago. Also there is no telling how many have come and gone since then. Or even before then. So I am speculating that there is a large army underground somewhere and the South Pole region is their doorway. But what are they doing gathering here in large numbers? What are they preparing for?

Are you an enhanced soldier, trained up from the inside of the military? I do know there are telepathic, what, warriors in the US/UK military system. Or are your experiences on the ground? A bit of both? I'm actually kind of interested in the logistics of military movements, cargo, supplies, fleets, ...

[BROOK]

I dare say most of the mass horrors humanity has inflicted upon itself have come from this kind of thinking. People intoxicated by their own self-righteousness or who believe in their own intrinsic moral superiority too easily give themselves permission to do terrible things to those they hate or fear.



Mudra...forgive me but are you saying that the evil the people on this thread have experienced is "self created"?
If you are..you are way off base..and need to step back and take a look at the people here..they are not delusional...they are of high caliber intelligence...and this in not something they invited in.

So please...what exactly do you perceive this to be...just another Disney manifestation? Because I thought we got past that already

[Lionhawk]

Post removed by Anchor - this is not what we come here to see and it has to stop.

[BROOK]

Mudra,
After rereading and rereading that post....you might as well have posted another Disney Cartoon..so here is the answer to your post...Dear...listen to the words carefully

YouTube - Red Rider - Lunatic Fringe

We can hear your footsteps

[Lionhawk]

Getting back to the subject at hand.............


No Caste,

I do have a military background, but it was not involved with what I have written about. God Bless our Troops!

The ship I spoke of was dispatched from the Orion sector in our Galaxy.

What I am speculating is that they are gathering here as a central point. What is key to understand is that this Planet is more than just an ordinary planet. Logistically it does play a major role as to it's location here in the Galaxy. This Planet is also a major intersection in the galaxy even though it is on the outskirts of it. I also wonder if the value of 19.47 applies to it's position if we were to apply an overlay over the Galaxy using sacred geometry. I don't have the values to calculate it, but someone here might able to prove this out. It would be most interesting to see this correlation. If we know of the constants to this as it is being applied everywhere we look and is proving itself out, why not try it on a larger scale like on our Galaxy?

[BROOK]

[QUOTE]I also wonder if the value of 19.47 applies to it's position if we were to apply an overlay over the Galaxy using sacred geometry.

I think your on track with that...it has been brought to me several times lately :thumb_yello:

19.47 is the key....the VORTEX

[Ammit]

It does not look much like a coordinate, could it be a magnitude number (ie) its brightness. At 19+ it would be one of the brightest things out there.

[BROOK]

It does not look much like a coordinate, could it be a magnitude number (ie) its brightness. At 19+ it would be one of the brightest things out there.

19.47 the key....check this out

YouTube - Nassim Haramein Event Horizon 1

[BROOK]

If we know of the constants to this as it is being applied everywhere we look and is proving itself out, why not try it on a larger scale like on our Galaxy?


I'm not very good at this stuff..however I would think applying the same coordinates to scale would supply the desired location of such a vortex
And would prove to be of value

[Ammit]

Just a thought, are they far away from us, could it be a parsec?
1 parsec is equal to 3.26 lightyears, so 19.74 would be 63 lightyears away.

[BROOK]

Just a thought, are they far away from us, could it be a parsec?
1 parsec is equal to 3.26 lightyears, so 19.74 would be 63 lightyears away.
You might need to recalculate...it's 19.47...not 19.74 :thumb_yello:

[Ammit]

Yeah, lmao daft person as I am, sorry for that, i have my glasses on now so can see better.

At 19.47 latitude, there is a string of volcanoes in Hawaii.
But more interestingly: look here (http://www.missionignition.net/she/articles/1947.htm)
It talks about the Sacred Templar Geometry.

[BROOK]

Yeah, lmao daft person as I am, sorry for that, i have my glasses on now so can see better.

At 19.47 latitude, there is a string of volcanoes in Hawaii.
But more interestingly: look here (http://www.missionignition.net/she/articles/1947.htm)
It talks about the Sacred Templar Geometry.
Great find Ammit! But I'm checking out of a hotel right now..gotta run. I'll check back later tonight. Then I'll get more time to read the article...GREAT FIND :thumb_yello:

[Ammit]

Well the was also a signal picked up from mars on 19.5 degrees but i dont know how accurate the measurement was, but this site explains more about 19.47 stuff found on mars? might be connected to the signal source?
Here (http://forum.myspace.com/INDEX.CFM?FUSEACTION=MESSAGEBOARD.VIEWTHREAD&ENTRYID=20530515&CATEGORYID=0&ISSTICKY=0&GROUPID=101103763)

[Ammit]

Umm, Cydonia, now thats interesting..

[BROOK]

One last thought....what if we are indeed in that vortex of 19.47 scale to the universe....what if the value of that is creating the 3D light reflective and everything in it....wrap your head around that one :shocked:

[Lionhawk]

I offer this on this fine day. A prayer of sorts to all those who can receive it. I anchor it here. Enjoy!




YouTube - indian spirit

[Ammit]

Very nice Lionhawk, thankyou.

[Jacqui D]

Thank you lionhawk you have made me feel so much better after that beautiful piece of writing.
I do try to love all now i went through a bad experience last year i have dealt with it it is done like you say you have to move on no good keeping all those bad vibes inside it eats you up it makes you ill.
I have also felt unsure, mistrust with these reps, i have only encountered them once that was enough for me.
What ever protection was put around me after that awful attack is working i have had no more visitations or bad experiences since.
The branding i received i feel as i explained before was a laser mark although it has now faded away ( i have been told they do last for around a year) this is true because it took about that long for it to fade,to what can be seen now but i have a feeling and it is only a feeling that this mark will show up under some form of ultra light would you call it i am not up on these things UV type light!

Yes i mentioned that the predator type being that attacked me was wearing a combat type uniform although nothing like our soldiers would wear this was made from no material i could say exists here it seemed to be connected to the skin was not made up of the skin but similar.
He made it clear to me he was an elite soldier top of the war lords
I have been told i am a time walker i walk the cubic world, i have a feeling i may have stumbled across this elite soldier way back in my past as a child, as i open a door to another world i may have witnessed something i should not have. This is why the comment of i have been looking for you for a long time makes sense.
I have no memory of this but this makes sense to me.
I have walked into many realms and seen many things i can not explain.

I have never seen anything on any site regarding these type of reps so your indication they are off planet resonates with me.

If you are saying there are as many of these beings out there yes indeed what is the agenda!
I am here doing a job i know this, this was a blip which shouldn't have happened but things do happen like this sometimes we can not always be protected. As i proved to myself, but not wishing to upset the apple cart shall i say i hope that's the last i see of that particular one or any other.
Thank you once again lionhawk for that.

[Jacqui D]

great video by the way lionhawk.






I offer this on this fine day. A prayer of sorts to all those who can receive it. I anchor it here. Enjoy!




YouTube - indian spirit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhAeivkypsI)

[Anchor]

Post removed by Anchor - this is not what we come here to see and it has to stop.

Since subtlety didnt work I will be more forceful.

This is a warning.

I am closing this thread for a while to ram the point home.

If any of you persist in making direct personal attacks, telling people to leave the forum, accusing them of being agents of evil, whatever - any direct attacks you will end up being rendered incapable of posting on this forum.

A..

[Ammit]

I actually requested that this thread be re-opened as I had researched so much information to give some informed ( as much as i can ) answers, I am going to request that the thread remains on topic for the information content and not as a lynch mob against others who may have differing views or religions.

Come on guys and gals, whats the point of fighting each other, the fight is with the system not the human race.

[BROOK]

Thank you so much Ammit!

Before we get to the 19.47 ideas we have come to explore
I would like to dedicate a song...

One of heartfelt love

YouTube - The Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin

Just what you want to be...you will be in the end

[BROOK]

I offer this on this fine day. A prayer of sorts to all those who can receive it. I anchor it here. Enjoy!




YouTube - indian spirit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhAeivkypsI)

I second that...very moving and inspiring :wub2:

[Ammit]

Ok this is not a theory of mine as I am not going to put it up yet.
But here is some of the things I found out...

It may be more than coincidence that the Roswell Crash was in 1947 and Nassim Haramein has valid reason to believe that Latitude 19.47 is an extremely important number.

Cydonia and the pyramids, rests at 19.47' from the equator. On Earth, pyramids are exact at 19.47' north of the equator on the Yucatan peninsula in Mexico. Hawaian pyramids are at 19.47' north of the equator as well.

The earth is 21,600 nautical miles around. This measurement is based on the ratio of 360 x 60 first used by the Phoenicians and still in use by modern ocean and flight navigators.

The number 6,480 is exactly 1/4th of the total 25,920 years it takes earth to complete one circuit through the signs of the zodiac. 6,480 years is unique because it marks the duration between a series of global cataclysms left in earth's historic and geologic record.

When the earth's circumference, 21,600 is divided by 33.33 the number 6,480 appears in a variation:

21,600 / 33.33 = 648.06480648064...

648.06480648064..divided by 19.47, the number suggested by the year of the Roswell crash itself (1947)...produces a modification of 33.33:

648.064806480 / 19.47 = 33.28

...Latitude 33.28°

This latitude, 33.28° multiplied by PI (3.141592653589...) results in a longitude 104.56° ... pinpointing the exact coordinates of the disc impact site near Roswell NM.

Additionally the number 2012 can be calculated with a form of the number of the exact Roswell crash site latitude, 33.28° and the year of the Roswell event itself, 1947:

19.47 x 3.328 = 64.80

Between July 1947 and March 2012 there are 64.80 years.

More stuff here. (http://www.scribd.com/doc/17117471/Warning-The-Alien-Agenda-Revealed-by-Art-Green-Field)

[Gareth]

Okay - enough is enough.

Thank you Ammit for your efforts.

I have removed the last 3 posts and the thread is closed permanently now.

Gareth