Poll on the believability of Project Camelot whistle blowers

[rsywong]

After listening and viewing many hours of interviews of witnesses and whistle blowers, it is essential to evaluate what they say. Only by determining what is probably true and what is probably false can we get some idea of the big picture. It is of course the responsibility of the viewers. I am interested in the opinions of the viewers and no one has ever collected such opinions in Project Camelot. Another reason for the poll is that I believe our assessment of these assertions by the informants is based mainly on our intuition, as it can only be so with the unconventional nature of the information, and collectively our group intuition may tell something individual intuition cannot. So please join the poll.

Note: The poll is on the believability of the informant/whistle blower, that is, the probability of their major claims being true, and not a evaluation of their integrity. I think almost all of the PC informants have very high integrity, they are sincere and truly believe their experience.

Note: You may tick as many options as you like.

[Zeddo]

You cannot poll on this topic. You have to take "whistle-blowers" contributions and carefully scrutinize them, by looking for the misinfo etc. However if we were able to do that would we need whistle-blowers? The point is moot.

Z

[rsywong]

My original intention was to give a rating on each personality. However the structure of the poll here can only be comparative. This should still be acceptable. Members can make their opinions and comments on the reply.

[Zeddo]

ooops, an apology owed here. When I saw the thread there was no poll showing at the top. All I saw was the statement and as a result was wondering how you would actually poll !!! Sorry!

Z

[Phtha]

Only two for me on that list, Collier and Green. To me they came off as very honest people, not deliberately trying to mislead anyways. I still don't think everything they said was accurate though. The rest of the list I don't trust for various reasons.

A few more I can think of off hand that I would have checked are:
Hoagland, Sherman, Marrs, Icke, and Farrell.

[chitty]

I didn't see a None Of The Above Box.:thumbdown::thumbdown:

[rsywong]

I didn't see a None Of The Above Box.:thumbdown::thumbdown:

This poll is for those who consider Project Camelot has some value, ie. there is at least one informant who has told some truth.

The "all" option is not good though, for it only reduces the % of every choice.

Even with so few participants voting so far, we can still see something. David Wilcock with his scientific support and Bob Dean with his credentials and charisma are ahead. This does not mean the rest have lesser truths, for the poll result is only comparative. It could also be that the greatest truth is hard to have evidence for and is harder to accept.

[KathyT]

I didn't see a None Of The Above Box.:thumbdown::thumbdown:

Ditto.

And why aren't there others on the list?

[Ross H]

poor ole Dan's got no votes??:thumb_yello:

[Luminari]

Ditto.

And why aren't there others on the list?

Who would you suggest?

[TheObserver]

I haven't seen Alex Collier or Patrick Geryl yet, but i picked Wilcock, Bob Dean and Arthur (Henry).
Something about Arthur's less than articulate nerdy shyness sets him apart from the other guys that do the lecture circuit.
(Other than his uncharacteristic "i've been to mars!" outburst at that conference of course)

[Ross H]

I haven't seen Alex Collier or Patrick Geryl yet, but i picked Wilcock, Bob Dean and Arthur (Henry).
Something about Arthur's less than articulate nerdy shyness sets him apart from the other guys that do the lecture circuit.
(Other than his uncharacteristic "i've been to mars!" outburst at that conference of course)

Patrick Geryl...well what do you say??? HMMM, Most "matter of fact" pulls no punches!! TOTALLY believes what he says. He is TOTALLY science.

Worth a watch,http://www.projectcamelot.org/index.html

peace always

[Luminari]

Patrick Geryl...well what do you say??? HMMM, Most "matter of fact" pulls no punches!! TOTALLY believes what he says. He is TOTALLY science.

Worth a watch,http://www.projectcamelot.org/index.html

peace always

If Geryl is right, we are all going to die. What are we going to do to seize our lives back from the Technosphere and truly enjoy the next couple of years incase they are our last?

Although... the fact that he is all science could be his undoing if he fails to factor in the awesome power of some of the guardian races orbiting in motherships. They could even alter the Sun I believe... but would they.

[Carrie1971]

If Geryl is right, we are all going to die. What are we going to do to seize our lives back from the Technosphere and truly enjoy the next couple of years incase they are our last?

Although... the fact that he is all science could be his undoing if he fails to factor in the awesome power of some of the guardian races orbiting in motherships. They could even alter the Sun I believe... but would they.

WE are NOT going to die.
WE are ALL going to die.
Both are true...

However just because our body we live in here on "earth" which my good friend calls "earthsuit" is only a host for our soul. Which is not going to die.

We are all here to learn some "thing" ..

Each person here and now on the planet at this point in "TIME" have a mission or we need to learn a lesson : OR three....

I am not voting on the poll. We each find our own truth. What I think is not what you think. We each can see the very same event in real time and we will both remember it in a way diffrent then the other. Point of view.

Keep in mind two things.

Life is a gift, and we have to keep trying.

[Luminari]

Lalalalala..

[rsywong]

Ditto.

And why aren't there others on the list?

The reason is that the number of options for a poll is limited to 10.

Alex Collier is catching up. I voted for him too. I sensed his passionate love for humanity. His quotation on withholding love and pain is very illuminating, befitting an alien sage.

Dan Bursch should have done better, his timelines and return of future human are the basis of the big picture of Project Camelot. Unfortunately I believe his view on our entering a new timeline, and its complex label of 'variant 83' cost him a little.

Henry Deacon's coming out to the public may actually be counter-productive. By virtually not saying anything interesting, and not elaborating on his Martian experience, the audience may have another thought on his validity. I personally think that he is genuine, but perhaps not tactful in this arena.

Dr. Bill Deagle's low performance in the poll is most perplexing to me. His knowledge and warnings and prophecies are of great importance, I think. PC would be discolored without his contributions. May be people are upset by false alarms, but I think the time element of the prophecies are best discarded. Wrongly timed prophecies can still serve good purpose. For example, would it not be better to be prepared earlier?

[Anchor]

... we are all going to die.

Balian of Ibelin: You go with the army?
Hospitaller: My order is with the army.
Balian of Ibelin: You go to certain death.
Hospitaller: All death is certain. I shall tell your father what I've seen you become.

:)

A..

[franciejones]

well....two years ago I was much more naive. I have to say that no one on the list truly inspires me to "give a click"...

Bob Dean is cool. But he has nothing new so anything else he may say...might be false. Also....all the Jesus stuff he says IMO is just ridiculous.

David Wilcock is ok.....a know-it-all money-maker....but has interesting things to say nonetheless.

Bill Deagle??? Seriously? He is a schill in my opinion.

Deacon? I cannot say enough against the guy. After that baloney on stage....ugh...I have less than zero respect OR belief of anything he says.

Dan Burisch...it makes me laugh that folks believe him. Even two years ago, I knew he was out right lying.

Pete Peterson----total body language and facial expressions of a liar. NON-starter in my opinion.

I love Marrs tho...he is an excellent source of information for certain.

[Steven]

...total body language and facial expressions of a liar...

I am glad to notice some of us knows the signs of the body, their is also the signs of the voice, ultimately their is reverse speech, which is easy to do on your own pc.

I suggest you try reverse speech with some parts on all of them if you are going to play the guess who said the lie game...

Namaste, Steven

[TRANCOSO]

Dr. Beagle & Dan Rubbish are in a fierce contest who will be the least believable whistle blower.:mfr_lol:

[rsywong]

Looks like we are not getting more votes. By my hypothesis that group intuition as indicated by the poll may tell some truth, we can tentatively conclude that David Wilcock, Bob Dean and Alex Collier are very much believable, they have the essential elements of truth and their extraterrestrial views are mostly correct. George Green has some grains of truth, while the foundation of the Project Camelot big picture is shaken by Henry Deacon and Dan Burisch not telling the truth.

Here are some of my meager thoughts. The timeline theory is probably true, but the occupants of the Roswell crash are not future humans returning to alter the timeline or justify their existence (~Dan). We are being controlled from time immemorial by extraterrestrials, some are of reptilian descent, some are now living underground and may be hostile to us. We need to break away from this slavery and the time is coming (Alex Collier). With the help of some friendly aliens of great power, we are going to raise our consciousness and vibration to a new level when the new age opportunity arrives in about 2012. No cataclysm of real measure will befall mankind then.(David Wilcock, ~Patrick Geryl). We will soon become a star race, much sooner than we thought because of the great disclosure coming soon and the technological help from the aliens (Dean,Wilcock). We are actually receiving this help a lot in past decades.

There will be a great deal of disaster coming, led by the economic collapse of the US and consequently followed by WWIII (Green), though China will not invade Australia and there will not be huge tzunamis of 1100 feet high, just massive flooding of lowland areas (~ Green, because he is half supported).There will not be a massive reduction of the world population by a pandemic. If one is coming, it will be of a lesser degree. (~Bob Deagle).

So the future is mostly joyful for humanity, even entertaining from the great scare building up now.

The above is not meant to be serious, and my attributions may not be correct, but allow me to make some incorrect statements if there are.

[Luminari]

Its shocking how many people on Avalon are obsessed with Alex Collier (not his real name) considering every single thing he said in his intial 1990's video proved to be false and didn't eventuate. And the fact that he has never produced one photo or any other evidence of lifelong contact.

I have been following his info since before probably 99% of the people here thanks to a contact in sweden who gave me his first video many years ago.
And have watched all his subsequent interviews. He speaks from the heart and says many profound things, but never anything backed by any evidence.. unlike science based people like Burisch and Deacon, which can actually provide sources to back up much of their claims.

Seems hypocritical that everyone supports 'Collier' with zero evidence but beats up on the other guys who do have verifiable data.

I like Ralph (Alex), just wondering why his support base is disproportionate.
The love you withhold is the pain you carry is such a profound statement but I'd like more. Also Alex was a researcher of the Billy Meier contacts and actually was the one who introduced Michael Horn to them (current spokesperson for FIGU USA), who has subsequently been viciously attacking Alex in recent years (which I think is disgraceful on Michael's part) I would like to hear more on that connection from Alex's perspective. Please!

[Stargazer1965]

Its shocking how many people on Avalon are obsessed with Alex Collier (not his real name) considering every single thing he said in his intial 1990's video proved to be false and didn't eventuate. And the fact that he has never produced one photo or any other evidence of lifelong contact.

I have been following his info since before probably 99% of the people here thanks to a contact in sweden who gave me his first video many years ago.
And have watched all his subsequent interviews. He speaks from the heart and says many profound things, but never anything backed by any evidence.. unlike science based people like Burisch and Deacon, which can actually provide sources to back up much of their claims.

Seems hypocritical that everyone supports 'Collier' with zero evidence but beats up on the other guys who do have verifiable data.

I like Ralph (Alex), just wondering why his support base is disproportionate.
The love you withhold is the pain you carry is such a profound statement but I'd like more. Also Alex was a researcher of the Billy Meier contacts and actually was the one who introduced Michael Horn to them (current spokesperson for FIGU USA), who has subsequently been viciously attacking Alex in recent years (which I think is disgraceful on Michael's part) I would like to hear more on that connection from Alex's perspective. Please!

Luminari....My gut doesn't need a photo or an artifact.

I believe Collier from looking in his eyes......

Just mine own thoughts...

[eleni]

xxxx xxxxxxx

[Carol]

I just want to add that I thought LaViolette's interview on the Superwave excellent. Mel is going to interview him for the Veritas show and I'm looking forward to listening to him there as well.

[RedeZra]

I believe none of them


Some presents some interesting information

facts fiction beliefs disinfo which mostly serves to compile a big heap of confusion to blend the more adventurous people with smoke and mirrors


Some of the whistleblowers might believe what they present

channeling inside sources plant mind control

Some might be agents of disinfo deliberate deceit chiefs of cult


Im pretty sure that when someone shares top secret stuff

the Cabal will put them away yesterday

So years of whistleblowing and still blowing strong

is in fact a poor resume for any whistleblower

---

I believe the dark Cabal associates with demons

and that is the reason why we have so much problems in the world

with war crime corruption coverns rumors of human sacrifices etc etc

the Power pulling the strings of our leaders and seducing us is as black as night

for the princes of the air the manifestation of lights in the skies are no big deal and neither is telepathy- in fact it serves to cloak and camouflage a severe demonic problem as something fascinating and desiring for the people

[Luminari]

Its shocking how many people on Avalon are obsessed with Alex Collier (not his real name) considering every single thing he said in his intial 1990's video proved to be false and didn't eventuate. And the fact that he has never produced one photo or any other evidence of lifelong contact.

I have been following his info since before probably 99% of the people here thanks to a contact in sweden who gave me his first video many years ago.
And have watched all his subsequent interviews. He speaks from the heart and says many profound things, but never anything backed by any evidence.. unlike science based people like Burisch and Deacon, which can actually provide sources to back up much of their claims.

Seems hypocritical that everyone supports 'Collier' with zero evidence but beats up on the other guys who do have verifiable data.

I like Ralph (Alex), just wondering why his support base is disproportionate.
The love you withhold is the pain you carry is such a profound statement but I'd like more. Also Alex was a researcher of the Billy Meier contacts and actually was the one who introduced Michael Horn to them (current spokesperson for FIGU USA), who has subsequently been viciously attacking Alex in recent years (which I think is disgraceful on Michael's part) I would like to hear more on that connection from Alex's perspective. Please!

Is anyone going to step up to address this post properly? These are appropriate questions, I'm not biased either way.

[RedeZra]

Its shocking how many people on Avalon are obsessed with Alex Collier (not his real name) considering every single thing he said in his intial 1990's video proved to be false and didn't eventuate..

Well he is a confident eloquent speaker with mass and charm who sparkles his message with hope and bright future besides he looks like a likeable guy - like a bearded bear - and comes across as deeply concerned for fellow man

People dont need more than that to believe

It is possible to be seduced by a great orator and fall for his message

[Steven]

Is anyone going to step up to address this post properly? These are appropriate questions, I'm not biased either way.

Personally, I know all of them have said many great information very true. Just like many of the same have slide into assumption and speculation, some more than others... We all do this.

The truth is not linked to a testemony in particular, nor the lie is. Most of the time the truth of an information lies within the testemony, it is our duty to compare the many and see what is common to most of them...

If you really want to know if someone is lying, than try to reverse speech his/her testemony. That is something I used in the past and it does work.

Personally, I prefere a testemony rather than ''hard evidence'' like pictures or video. It is easier to me to discern form a testemony I can hear and look. The sum of the same information from different sources is certainly a good sign of authenticity. Especially when it comes at different times, in different cultures...

Beware of totally embracing or discarding a testemony, especially if this testemony is not gaining from it. The truth is everywhere among anything. Speculation and assumption too...

Namaste, Steven

[franciejones]

Is anyone going to step up to address this post properly? These are appropriate questions, I'm not biased either way.

I do not "know" that Burisch or Deacon's "evidence" is "verifyable data as I am neither a microbiologist nor a scientist. So the fact that they both speak about subjects that I am unable to either prove or disprove means very little to me. I think they are both dishonest and shady.

As for Alex Collier....I like his old interview...very interesting stuff...is it true? Who knows....but the fake accent he used then and now no longer seems to have raises some "honesty" questions in my mind.

[manticore]

Speaking of Dr. LaViolette, let me post here what I just posted at my forum regarding what happened during today's interview with him:
Hello everyone,

I just wanted to let you know Dr. LaViolette's interview went great, with 19 HUGE exceptions. Most of you know how we have been disconnected a couple of times this year and only once in 2 or 3 shows. However, can you believe it if I told you we were cut off 19 times during our interview?

What was different? In the past, I could hear the guest but they couldn't hear me. This time the guest would be cut and my call would still be active. Even Dr. LaViolette called the police and was told the interference was coming from the west coast (he is in New York and I'm in the southwest).

He said, and I could hear this, perhaps you will too, as if someone was picking up another line and shortly after, we would get disconnected. It's actually comical, because you will hear how when I ask a very sensitive question we would get disconnected.

It's going to be a bit difficult to patch 19 audio clips together. I'm debating if removing my explosions after a few disconnects. At any rate, Dr. LaViolette was a real trooper and he's on our side - THE TRUTH and even said it publicly to TPTB (as John says, THE POWERS THAT WANT TO BE) and we even discussed advice to those people out there who have inventions and technology that could change the world. We got disconnected on that one too, in case you wonder.

I left many questions behind because of this situation, but I know he is willing to do another one. Next time, I will have to keep our interview date confidential. My goal during this interview was to make it less technical and academic for everyone to understand and I think I did. It was actually a very thorough and fun interview, if you can laugh about the interruptions.

All of you were right. What a man he is. I am honored and privileged to have interviewed him.

Cheers,

Mel

[TRANCOSO]

Interesting! On this poll George Green is lightyears ahead of himself on the other poll.

AND THE DOOR ISN'T WHERE THE WINDOW SHOULD BE, & THE WINDOW ISN'T WHERE THE DOOR SHOULD BE!

Yes Maam!!! I love that song!