Contactee - Dream Experiences, Communication and Visions

[m1*]

I will post this in the contactee section. Once, I would have posted it in either 1). Total nut bag lunatic section (do you have one?) or 2). A dream section. However, I have began to realize that much what I have experienced are not exactly dreams. I can't say for sure WHAT they are (exactly), but since I've been waking up physically injured (ie: bruises, marks, scratches, unexplained joint pain such as a recent ankle I couldn't walk on for over a week, etc).. I've come to the conclusion that you don't get that stuff from dreams, and I wont buy that Friday 13th is real. So..

I have a few dreams/visions/experiences I wish to share here because they both involve other entities, other places and even other times. I just want to post them here as food for thought -- in case someone has either 1). Experienced something similar (and then we can discuss) 2). Understand more than I do about such phenomena and might be able to give "me" food for thought.

I have literally thousands of dreams, visions, experienced and happenings. These are just some recent interesting ones.

1). I perceived that a blast was coming through the universe. It was massive - like an ocean wave crashing over one grain of sand (as if the earth was the size of a grain of sand compared to an ocean wave). I don't know how to say how big this wave was, except that it blasted through EVERYTHING. At first, I thought everything was going to be annihilated an d I turned my back to it. Then in an instant, I spread out my arms and protected (or tried to protect) millions of small souls within my grasp. Then I realised that the wave was destroying only matter, but not spirit. This happened while I was lying in bed. I was not yet asleep, I was simply falling asleep. Therefore I class it more as a vision, rather than a dream. I literally felt the wave hit my back and in my minds eye, I saw the universe a whole.

2). This happened months earlier. I perceived that very soon matter and spirit would separate. At that time some spirits became as giants. Actually some realities even became much larger. Some spirits and realities became smaller, and it was all one - all together. It was rather hard to understand, but the gist of it was that not all of reality is the same "size". Some is much larger and the larger spirits belong in the larger areas and the smaller spirits belong in the smaller areas. I mention this, because it relates to the first perception I had in experience 1.

3). I woke up one morning with this memory. I don't know if it was a dream, but it certainly didn't feel like one. I was outside the earths atmosphere. I was obviously inside some sort of craft, except the window of the craft was so large and rounded, that it was as if I were literally floating in space (but I was most certainly aboard "something"). Then I perceived that I was to navigate to another universe. So I did. When I got to that universe, I found that there were diagrams in front of me (kind of holographic) which allow me to choose another universe. So I navigated to another universe. Then I navigated to a third. That was all well and good, but then I was asked to "find my way back". That was much harder, because I didn't pay attention to how I got to where I was. Nor did I know where I was, except that I was light years from earth. I could not find my way back and that's the last thing I remember. I think I failed.

Just posting this to see what others think.

[akopij]

the first two visions you had I didn't have the exact same, though if I ve been knowing about a WW3 and the fight against a destructive force since child, but the third I can relate to a vision I had when I did a hypnotic regression to a past life. It was in between this life and the past one, when my "soul" was in the spirit. I was in space above the earth and what I saw was gigantic holographic wheels with diagrams and signs I was able to inderstand somehow; this was at that point I was "planning" my future life (this current one). After that I entered the "gates of forgetness" that I think are actualy the entry of a alien device or place that I wasn't allow to remember. I met somebody who saw the wheels during a lsd trip, the guy was totaly extatic when coming down and all thankful for the vision he had. I still don't know wtf to think about that, hope you can relate to what I saw. When I was in front of the wheels I could tell that It was connected to several different universes and lifeforms. It wasn't like I was supposed to visit something but i just did my life planning according to my experience and dna personnal cocktail. Maybe it's connected with the portal gates but i m just speculating

[Carol]

m1, your dream reminds me of the Superwave that is on its way to this solar system from the galactic center. I strongly suspect what you described will happen within the next few years.

Most folks get confused as to how to get back... if you are out of body, just remember to inhale; if you are in another universe just remember the sun, feel its enegetic frequency and let it guide you back. You appear to have some quantom travel abilities but it is unclear if these are alien enhanced (you really are in one of their space crafts) or on your own as a multidimensional being larking about in the multiverse. If it is alien enhanced.. it's anyone guess as to the reality of the experience and what was needed for you to succeed with your task. If it was the other.. use the sun's frequency as your guide back home.

[m1*]

Carol, I'd like to ask you a question. Since you seem to know all about this astral stuff -- which is something I have avoided.

See, even when I am awake, I have heaps of thoughts and visions and feelings and all sorts of things that I am dealing with each day. I (and I know a lot of people believe I am silly for doing so, but..) for the most part, block it all out. I am not a person who necessarily wants to become involved in that sort of thing, even though it is quite obvious that either 1). I have these abilities or 2). Something is communicating things to me.

So, basically, if I go and lie down somewhere (or even if I just relax and close my eyes, actually) it takes only seconds before I am viewing SOMETHING. I don't try to control it. I don't try and work it out. I just let it play and try to think about something else. Nothing good ever come of these viewings / visions / premonitions -- what ever you want to call them, anyway. I don't trust them.

But, and now for my question, I am wondering about one thing. When I go to sleep (or I am TRYING to go to sleep), almost every time I feel something come over my body. It's kind of like a strong numbness. I used to get scared because of this and sit up or fidget or toss and turn around until I couldn't feel it anymore, but I am just so tired of all that, now I just think in my head.. oh here it is again and I just let it pass.

Once it has passed, that is when I start seeing things VERY vividly. I am not quite asleep and not quite awake by that time, but after a short while I will fall asleep if I just lie there. That is when the real IMAX theater kicks in and it's as if I totally enter other worlds or dimensions or what ever.

is this associated with astral travel? Would you say it is a dream? A vision? Remote viewing? All of the above? What do you make of my explanation / description? Do you think it is possible that information could be being "projected" into my head from somewhere? Maybe I am seeing the thoughts of other people? Maybe I am just trippin' right out on something? Too much coffee? I haven't really concluded WHAT'S going on, and I never did pay it too much attention until the things I saw started happening around me and in the world. So for that reason I am intrigued.

[eleni]

m1- when did this happen? I would not normally mention this here but here goes since you may have been there too.

I was sent(forward in time) to the superwave in my physical body on August 22.

It was the most profound event of my life. I can describe it in full (if you like) because other people were also there with me in that room(underground facility).

I am hoping to converse with others like myself who were also sent to that event.

I was not in my astral body though.......this was physical. It took me about a week to recover from that event.

[eleni]

m1- do you hear something as this numbness takes over (I do which is why I ask) after the numbness (this is during abductions) I am then in a *situation*
this past summer I was placed in various *future scenarios* as well as 2 breeding experiments.

Do you hear the noise upon return (I do and it's very loud- so loud that I woke my husband up to ask him if he had also heard it- he had not and I'm thinking how could he have not heard it).

Sometimes when you are taken from astral body you have to find your way back *in* (to your physical body) they don't even drop me off in my bedroom half the time.

You could be projecting, remote viewing, remote viewing as part of a project for them, etc;

Is there a separation of the events you see and the time it takes to go to sleep? Do you understand what I mean by that?

[m1*]

No, I don't hear anything during those times.

But other times, I wake up in the night with my room lit up blue. I am stuck to the bed and can't move, and I can hear deep humming sounds LOUD with high pitched oscillating sounds. Every time that happens, I start going nuts trying to move but I can't. Then I simply wake up in the morning.

[burgundia]

Thanks for starting this thread. I believe it will be very valuable to us all. The first dream also reminds me of the superwave...

[eleni]

Can you describe the wave more in detail? Did it feel like the strongest magnetic distortion/tear your molecules apart type of thing?

That's how it was for me- prior to the wave - there were worldwide earthqakes.

Then the wave- it came from the right side of where I was standing- it hit me in the brain first (right side) and at that point I thought wow, what is going to happen, there is no way I can survive this- this will tear my molecular structure apart and I will never be the same- then I went blank- completely blank.

Then I came around and was still standing in same spot- we walked out to a hallway on the right. I passed by a group of 4-5 four to four and a half foot tall grey beings- I was not scared- it all seemed so normal-
then into a room on the left that had partitions- others (humans) were also in there- then I was back in my bed- sitting up- same position I was in when I was *jumped forward*.

[eleni]

m1- I am confused- you just said you do hear noise- yes, I know the noise-
very familiar with it- I hear it during an abduction (initial stages) and when I am returned.

Edited to add; yes the room becomes lit up- I don't describe it as blue light but my 5 year old son does. The light doesn't always appear for me though.

Strongest light to appear for me was 18 years ago with the Nordic/biblical people. It lit up the entire room and my ex husband witnessed the entire event in full consciousness.

[eleni]

akopij and m1- do you think that description with the wheel could be some sort of stargate? Maybe it's part of the quarantine placed on planet?

[m1*]

I am describing two different things.

1). Is while I am sleeping, I begin to see certain visions and my body goes numb. Then it passes and I can clearly see many visions.

2). I guess is what most people would call an abduction experience. That is accompanied by noises. Low humming and high pitched oscillating frequencies. There is also accompanies vibration of my body (and blacking out).

As far as describing the wave -- that was more along the lines of a strong vision. It came all of the sudden when I was resting, waiting to fall asleep. I perceived a wave heading through the universe towards me. I turned my back to it and the next part is hard to describe. It penetrated absolutely ever atom of matter. However, once it had passed I still had my consciousness. It didn't destroy me. I was JUST falling asleep when I had this vision, and it was accompanied by physical feeling as well. I can't really describe any more, it is hard to describe. But the short of it is I saw a wave of something pass through the universe and it left nothing untouched. It penetrated everything.

edit to response to your edit

The room doesn't always light up for me either.

Regarding the wheel, it was absolutely not a star gate. It was a small navigation aide which was directly in front of me which I used as a map. It was more like a 3d hologram of where I was traveling, much like a 3D holographic map.

[burgundia]

akopij and m1- do you think that description with the wheel could be some sort of stargate? Maybe it's part of the quarantine placed on planet?

does it look like the 12 wheels on the Egyptian papyrus?

[eleni]

m1- it sounds like what you are describing to be abduction encounters- I experience the same .

Yes, I know it's hard to explain in words (the wave) yes, it left nothing untouched- every bit of matter etc;

But you are saying you were in your bed and had this vision? Yet it was physical- so you were lying down?

I know that everyone I was with in that room in the underground facility was standing up-

Afterwards (after I went blank) I was very surprised that I retained mental acuity. I thought I would never be the same.

Since then my psychic abilities have been amplified- but I still need to learn to discern as far as that goes because I get information and the information is just that- there's no filter and I try to interpret it and that's when it get's
distorted.

[m1*]

m1- it sounds like what you are describing to be abduction encounters- I experience the same .

Yes, I know it's hard to explain in words (the wave) yes, it left nothing untouched- every bit of matter etc;

But you are saying you were in your bed and had this vision? Yet it was physical- so you were lying down?

I know that everyone I was with in that room in the underground facility was standing up-

Afterwards (after I went blank) I was very surprised that I retained mental acuity. I thought I would never be the same.

Since then my psychic abilities have been amplified- but I still need to learn to discern as far as that goes because I get information and the information is just that- there's no filter and I try to interpret it and that's when it get's
distorted.

Yes, I believed I was toast. Yes I was lying down. I was beginning to fall asleep. Then in my mind I appeared to be in the universe and I saw a wave coming. I turned my back to it, stretched out my arms to cover a heap of living souls to protect them because I thought everything was going to be toast. However it passed and I was still alive.

This happened some time over a week ago. I don't remember the day. Funnily enough, since that happened I have had stronger visions.

Part of the reason I came and participated in this forum was because I wanted to express a lot of things that I have kept bottled up.

The last few days I have experienced very strong visions. All I have to do is close my eyes, even when I am fully awake and I start seeing things. I don't have any control over what I see. I suspect that I am either being implanted with information or that I am tuned into something else going on somehow, and can see what's happening.

I don't really know WHAT'S going on with me to be brutally honest. I just don't know. I don't know anything. I'm just trying to explain things as I see them.

[eleni]

Mention of a wheel:


Shambhalla is considered to be the source of the Kalacakra, which is the highest and most esoteric branch of Tibetan mysticism. According to the Kalachakra Tantra Prophecy, a line of enlightened kings guard the highest wisdoms for the time when all spiritual values in the outside world are lost in wars and destruction. At that time, a great king will come out of the Shambhalla kingdom to defeat the forces of evil and establish the Golden Age.

The prophecy of Shambhalla gives us a hint of the coming Golden Age. There will be 32 kings, each reigning for a 100 years. As their reigns pass conditions, of the world will deteriorate. Wars will break out in the pursuant of power. Materialism will overcome spiritualism and spread over the world. Then the 'barbarians' who follow this ideology of power and materialism are united under one evil king , assuming there is nothing left to conquer. When this time comes, the mists will then lift to reveal the icy mountains of Shambhala.

Seeing the promised lands of Shambhalla, the barbarians will then attack Shambhalla with a huge army equipped with terrible weapons. The 32nd king of Shambhala, Rudra Cakrin, ‘The Wrathful One with the Wheel’ will rise from his throne and lead a mighty host against the invaders destroying the army of barbarians. After the battle has been won, the rule of Shambhalla will cover the world, bringing in the greatest Age of all times. Food will grow without work, there will be no disease or poverty, hatred and jealousies will be replaced with love and the great saints and sages of the past will return to life to teach true wisdom of the Ages.

Rudka Cakrin is known as ‘the Cakravartin’ or ‘the possessor of the wheel‘. This wheel supposedly is a wheel of iron that falls from the sky to mark the beginning of his reign. Some may see this ‘wheel of iron falling from the sky as a metaphor where others may view this quite literally as an Alien Craft.

In the Kalachakra, one can find the necessary teaching provided for preparation of the prophesized war. We find in it ‘the psychology of invasions’ and detailed instructions on how to build various machines to ward off the invaders. The sacred texts go on to say the Dark Age will last until the year 2424 AD, when a ‘great war’ will begin in India. The human race will be rescued from total destruction by the armies of Shambhalla riding ‘flying horses’ and ‘boats that fly in the air’. Again these could be metaphors, but I lean more to the texts describing UFOs.

[beren]

friend, the more I read your threads and other threads too I am coming to next conclusion;
first of all we are still very ignorant about almost everything surrounding us, here on earth and out in universe. It is not the case that we do not want to know( well at least some of us wish to know) it is just that we are still at the few inches from the starting point of humanity.

We think that we know but reality always prove us wrong.
I think there is a catch where Satan and his hosts are fooling us.
They are showing us glimpses of another life forms or holographic things or something else which we`d call SF.
As we do not have a clue what that really is we wander and roam around and about it. That is often extremely confusing for a human . Imagine a 7 year old child who just started to learn mathematics in elementary and hardly know what is 3+17 and then comes a Harvard math professor and tells the child of some extremely high equation...

Child will be very confused and would n`t understand a word spoken to him/her.

Basically Satan and his crew are spiritual entities and they know a hell of a lot more from us because who knows how old are they are what did they learn in both phases ,in light and now in darkness. So they use that knowledge to lull the people ,to confuse us, to eventually awe us in order to perceive them as "gods" or high beings, or they show a bits and pieces of something to some person and other they just torture so everybody would have then different thinkings about them.
To someone they show as light beings and someone as bad guys and hurting them ...
That is here in order to sow confusion and delusion about truth.

Why do you think God never poured all knowledge on us immediately ?
All should be learned and grasped gradually in order that person can connect all dots and understand all. There is a verse in NT where it is being said that God chose to carefully hide all things in Christ Jesus, meaning that we will always learn from him, more and more until we reach perfection and be as him, as he stated that.

Right now we can not get all that fancy stuff like SF technology and rest simply because our level or awareness, conscience and knowledge is terrible.
We are not far off from people in first century when Jesus came in flesh...

Right now we are in making ourselves a perfect foundations of our being in order that tomorrow we can make beautiful building of ourselves. God will not simply allow going on the second,third or fourth stage of our development until we complete first and the most difficult stage. Let no one deceive us in that!
Remember how Eve and Adam were deceived? They have been told that they will become as "gods" and will know difference between good and evil...
Guess what is being offered to us today with even more pressure as days are passing by???

People ,throw your silliness and deceits that have been thrown upon you.
Realize that I or someone else on this forum when speak about the Bible , we are not speaking about religion or some denomination or that we are loons and religious fanatics! We are talking about real truth which will set you free,so to quote Jesus. Forget about religion(all that exist),churches,philosophies,a man wisdom all... Who else than the God almighty-creator of all that is , and his son Jesus Christ a crowned king of universe can help you better?
Read his word and ,I will repeat again, whatever is not clear,write it down and ask God to help you understand, read further and compare what you`ve been reading with other parts in Bible. Ask directly God for help. Why would you turn to second hand "helpers "...?
Ask the Creator himself in sincere prayer. A prayer that always has to be genuine from your soul and heart itself or else it would not be answered to you.

We can not fool or trick God but if we need and want help wholeheartedly it will be given to us, always.


Love and blessings,

Beren

[no caste]

1). Is while I am sleeping, I begin to see certain visions and my body goes numb. Then it passes and I can clearly see many visions.

The numbness is usually normal physical cycles of sleep. A lot of people can panic about sleep paralysis, for instance. Chemicals flush the body - think a kind of epidural - at various stages. As you 'fall' asleep, something like this occurs too. The 'paralysis' occurs in deeper sleep (REM). It may be useful to know what these normal physical experiences too, if you don't already, to separate the uncanny odd painful from usual sleeping processes.

If someone wanted to abduct you (hypothetically), they would know all about this, i.e. when to do it, what frequencies to emit, brain waves, etc.

Information here or wikipedia ('sleep paralysis'):
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/brain_basics/understanding_sleep.htm

2). I guess is what most people would call an abduction experience. That is accompanied by noises. Low humming and high pitched oscillating frequencies. There is also accompanies vibration of my body (and blacking out).

I didn't want to suggest this at first, but I think you're tuned in to the 'trip chair.' I myself think it's a byproduct of military programs affecting you, due to your own intuition, but it doesn't explain the bruising. Submarines use different low frequency radio signals that you could also be picking up on - and it's all affecting your psyche.

I don't think the military figured that people can not only pick up the signals, through intuition, but also back read on them. So, it's conscious seepage time now. It's come through in artists etc for years. Also, I took a look at some of the underwater google images. The first one looked like a hatch - the 'tracks' were weird too. However, I don't trust google either. There's NSA in its history - they can really do what they want with images. I'm on the fence there.

[m1*]

Beren, I could have wrote all those words myself. I agree with you entirely.

Too many people latch onto conclusions and try to make out they know all about everything. I'll be the first to state that i know practically NOTHING. I don't even know what's going on with me. I am in a deep state of confusion. Then along come people with half baked new age philosophies and expect me to believe it, yet a lot of these people do not even believe that there is a creator, They believe they are part of the creator. This is very dangerous. We are the creatED not the creatORS.

I also wholeheartedly agree that as soon as you mention God or Jesus, a great many people throw you straight in the "religious" box and wont hear a word you say thereafter. Don't pass go, don't collect $200. However, what most people fail to understand is that there's a big difference between religion and faith. A true disciple of Jesus Christ will reject ALL religion. Jesus himself couldn't stand religion. He rebuked the Pharisees which were the religious people of that time.

First and foremost, I do believe in God and that Jesus is Lord. I do believe that Satan and his demons are misleading people and also literally running this world through human puppets who have sold their souls; the elite.

The increase in technology is also "given to us" and I do NOT believe for a second that it is from any place off the earth, but is from right here on this earth where these entities reside. They reside here because they cannot leave.

I have a LOT of things going on with me. I have a LOT of visions and a lot of feelings and intuitions. I have been affected severely all my life, and I do believe that a GREAT deal of what I have experienced has been demonic. However, I do also believe that I have had visions and experienced which came from God. I also believe that I am picking stuff up from somewhere else - maybe people, maybe technology.. there's more that people don't understand. I don't understand it. All I know is that I am seeing things that others can't see. I don't know what more to say about that.

[m1*]

The numbness is usually normal physical cycles of sleep. A lot of people can panic about sleep paralysis, for instance. Chemicals flush the body - think a kind of epidural - at various stages. As you 'fall' asleep, something like this occurs too. The 'paralysis' occurs in deeper sleep (REM). It may be useful to know what these normal physical experiences too, if you don't already, to separate the uncanny odd painful from usual sleeping processes.

If someone wanted to abduct you (hypothetically), they would know all about this, i.e. when to do it, what frequencies to emit, brain waves, etc.

Information here or wikipedia ('sleep paralysis'):
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/brain_basics/understanding_sleep.htm


I didn't want to suggest this at first, but I think you're tuned in to the 'trip chair.' I myself think it's a byproduct of military programs affecting you, due to your own intuition, but it doesn't explain the bruising. Submarines use different low frequency radio signals that you could also be picking up on - and it's all affecting your psyche.

I don't think the military figured that people can not only pick up the signals, through intuition, but also back read on them. So, it's conscious seepage time now. It's come through in artists etc for years. Also, I took a look at some of the underwater google images. The first one looked like a hatch - the 'tracks' were weird too. However, I don't trust google either. There's NSA in its history - they can really do what they want with images. I'm on the fence there.

I have learned about sleep paralysis. All I can do is insist that what I am experiencing is NOT sleep paralysis. I'll just leave that there.

This is the third time someone has mentioned "trip chair" in my posts. What on earth is a trip chair? At first I thought whoever posted it was being sarcastic so I ignored it. I thought they were implying that I was "tripping" or something, lol.

Well, i am most assuredly picking up SOMETHING. What I am seeing in my minds eye, my dreams and my visions are NOT just random thought process or dreams. I am "viewing" SOMETHING. I don't know what.

[eleni]

m1 and Beren- have you read the Hidden Hand interview?
It is someone pretending to be from Agrathi/Hollow earth passing himself off as an elite Creator God and perpetuating/creating/justifying evil for the *benefit* of mankind and their own species (creator gods) so they move on to another *realm* (one of negativity). I don't believe it's right for others (elite) to impose their will (which they have) on the populace- we are not the one's who want war, poverty, murder, destruction of earth, human experiments with secret technology etc;

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

[eleni]

m1- a trip chair was first used at Montauk- numerous people were used- specifically those with high psi abilities.

It's a time travel interface device- now they use jumprooms and they use it to collect information about future events.

If you are interested I can pass along some info but be warned- it's a Pandora's box.

I also want to mention that it's common amongst some abductees to be brought to other bases in the world- I know I was in Australia this past summer on one occasion- maybe 2. Again along with other humans (some from Oz as I could tell- don't ask me how- I just knew).

They use railcars (super fast ) and jumprooms to transport some of us .I assmue craft as well though with myself it's been the former most of the time.

[m1*]

m1- a trip chair was first used at Montauk- numerous people were used- specifically those with high psi abilities.

It's a time travel interface device- now they use jumprooms and they use it to collect information about future events.

If you are interested I can pass along some info but be warned- it's a Pandora's box.

I also want to mention that it's common amongst some abductees to be brought to other bases in the world- I know I was in Australia this past summer on one occasion- maybe 2. Again along with other humans (some from Oz as I could tell- don't ask me how- I just knew).

They use railcars (super fast ) and jumprooms to transport some of us .I assmue craft as well though with myself it's been the former most of the time.

Recently, I had a dream (or was it a dream?) that I was in some place that was under the ground. However, it wasn't like a cave or dark or dingy, It was actually quite open looking, as if it was one big artificial environment. Yet is was most assuredly under ground.

Then, two people came to me. I was waiting outside for them. They put me in a small car and then it took off down a tunnel at great speed. man it was fast, maybe hundreds of miles per hour, maybe faster. It was MOVING. It was all lit up in the tunnel and I could see the round lights going past so fast until it looked like one constant light.

Then, I wound up at another place, much like the first. I got out and it was explained to me that the people in that area were not allowed to leave. There was a rather morbid feeling in that area, from all the other people. It was like a community. They were just standing around and talking and doing various things, just as if I were in a park somewhere. But there was an over looming sense of dread. It was not a nice place.

The whole memory is rather patchy, but that's most of it. That's the gist of things. There was more to it. I was tested on something. I was allowed to walk around. I spoke to two people there. I can't really remember what I said. But all in all, this place felt very real. I only recall ever being there once. Maybe I have been there before, but I can't remember. It didn't seem familiar and I don't like the place. It's very high tech, but very morbid and sad.

[eleni]

I'm sorry- reading that is hard for me- brings up feelings/memories.
That's the human aspect I have mentioned in regards to all this (the greys don't scare me- it's the humans that do).
The underground places with the trains can be frightening- I was more afraid as a child- yes, very morbid feeling/dread. Odd.

You seem to be good at accessing memories- can you remember any people?
Are they dressed in uniform?

Montauk/trip chair info

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_16b.htm

[beren]

m1 and Beren- have you read the Hidden Hand interview?
It is someone pretending to be from Agrathi/Hollow earth passing himself off as an elite Creator God and perpetuating/creating/justifying evil for the *benefit* of mankind and their own species (creator gods) so they move on to another *realm* (one of negativity). I don't believe it's right for others (elite) to impose their will (which they have) on the populace- we are not the one's who want war, poverty, murder, destruction of earth, human experiments with secret technology etc;

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

Eleni, I did read that the other day when you provide the lik and I am sorry for not thanking you for that!

Anyways I could say that his talk is very intelligent, very profound, very complicated, very academic but all over pure evil.
Why I think so?

First of all notice that he exalts him self over others. That is a huge problem. Why?
When did Jesus exalted him over others???
In fact he stated that pupil can not be over his teacher and slave can not be over his master-BUT one day they can be as same as their teachers or
masters.
No where the stinking sound of being over proud or egoistic.
Also justifying evil deeds?!?
He was like:"sorry guys but we got to kill you -oh sorry NOT we personally ,but nevertheless you have to die in "harvest" in order that WE can pick up our reward in that blessed realm of 7th something!"
And he stated that with a sincere thinking and almost I felt his smile there when typing!
Pardon me all her but WTF! Who the hell he you are to tell me this !!! I need to die so you can reap bliss!!!

Oh wait but we do not die because we are part of creator...:-) It is not funny. But if we are part of creator in his own analogy also he is a part of creator too an WHY he would like us to die??? Why don` t he die first ,you know just to show us??? Also this stinks in a way like this: what sort of "creator" he claims that he and we are part of , what sort of "creator" has a idiotic wish to hurt him self in order to feel bliss??? What, he will kill part of him(meaning us) and another part of him would then be blissful ?!?!?

Give me a break...

The problem wit hi is that he is intelligent but not smart to actually see how he was fooled and deceived from his masters who serve their own master Lucifer AKA Satan AKA Devil...

Never underestimate Satan`s ability to lie and deceive.
Especially he likes to mix truth with lies to sound more convincing.
Parts of his interview did have large portions of truth, you can feel that, but when he was pointing and finishing his thoughts, he always moved to his side of things...

One more piece of deception. Satan is using all imaginable ways to deceive all people . We should not forget about that.
One of the greatest swindles he did is to convince people that he does not exist. Then how can you fight against works of a person that does not exist???

But luckily for us we have the true light to show us lies and lead us through this dark and that is our king Jesus Christ.

[eleni]

Yes, it worries me that people have fallen for his *truth* as spiritual truth and *wisdom*.

I believe whomever he is if he was for real is a part of dark cabal conjuring dark energies and is also deceived by lower astral entities (Lucifer).

I'm not interested in such harvests- I have given myself over to divine creator- not some intellectual logos who knows no love and manipulates this realm for the benefit of his *creations*.

[m1*]

I'm sorry- reading that is hard for me- brings up feelings/memories.
That's the human aspect I have mentioned in regards to all this (the greys don't scare me- it's the humans that do).
The underground places with the trains can be frightening- I was more afraid as a child- yes, very morbid feeling/dread. Odd.

You seem to be good at accessing memories- can you remember any people?
Are they dressed in uniform?

Montauk/trip chair info

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_16b.htm

They just looked like regular people to me. They were wearing just plain sensible clothes. There wasn't anything spectacular about their dress. It was just snug fitting, casual coloured dress. Nothing extra fantastic. It may very well ahve been uniforms, but I can't remember well enough. I mean, I can't remember if others were wearing the same thing as each other. The whole situation was rather ordinary in a lot of ways. It was just underground and everyone was morbid.

[no caste]

This is the third time someone has mentioned "trip chair" in my posts. What on earth is a trip chair? At first I thought whoever posted it was being sarcastic so I ignored it. I thought they were implying that I was "tripping" or something, lol.

No, the 'trip chair' is profoundly cruel. For people associated with it, it's hard to talk about. It's human experimentation with mind, memory, multiple personalities. I've researched this a lot. Just think sci-fi and you'll be OK. (Do you like sci-fi?)

I realize that on a forum like this people have opinions about all kinds of things. I'll just say that I'm compiling information ... You may not know what remote viewing is either? Anyway, there are a lot of military programs that mess with people's minds, down to a science, like the precision Nazi doctor style in WW2. I can't vouch for ETs - I have never seen one on foot or hoof or whatever they're on.

If you click on my post history (signature) you'll see a string of topics and discussions I've nosed around in. It's set up this way because I've had my share of interferences, e.g. like account deletion on this forum, while reading about this topic. At this point, there are probably people in the NSA who are my friends as we've gotten to know each other well on the online chase.

I'm guessing, but feel that to be true. What you describe seems clearly to be an underground base. There are a lot of them. So, you're probably tuned into the secret military infrastructure - which can be a Pandora's box I guess if you want details. To me, it's all just dumb. But, it's also real.

[m1*]

No, the 'trip chair' is profoundly cruel. For people associated with it, it's hard to talk about. It's human experimentation with mind, memory, multiple personalities. I've researched this a lot. Just think sci-fi and you'll be OK. (Do you like sci-fi?)

I realize that on a forum like this people have opinions about all kinds of things. I'll just say that I'm compiling information ... You may not know what remote viewing is either? Anyway, there are a lot of military programs that mess with people's minds, down to a science, like the precision Nazi doctor style in WW2. I can't vouch for ETs - I have never seen one on foot or hoof or whatever they're on.

If you click on my post history (signature) you'll see a string of topics and discussions I've nosed around in. It's set up this way because I've had my share of interferences, e.g. like account deletion on this forum, while reading about this topic. At this point, there are probably people in the NSA who are my friends as we've gotten to know each other well on the online chase.

I'm guessing, but feel that to be true. What you describe seems clearly to be an underground base. There are a lot of them. So, you're probably tuned into the secret military infrastructure - which can be a Pandora's box I guess if you want details. To me, it's all just dumb. But, it's also real.

I had never heard of the trip chair. I was just reading about it.

I do know what remote viewing is though.

Why do you say the trip chair is pandoras box?

[eleni]

No caste- do you mean you were deleted from speaking about trip chairs/Montauk etc;


A UFOlogist was told by someone not to delve into my experiences with Montauk (as in her asking me about it) because it was too dangerous to discuss.

I'm not a paranoid type but it's not something I usually discuss due to the overall weirdness of it- it's hard to put the experiences into anything cohesive and given that they did use drugs makes it even weirder.

[no caste]

People suffer. I don't have a lot of time right now to explain - it's a huge area too. I asked about your genetics which is personal, because I believe things are down to that level with frequencies and affectations.

I guess for me, it's a matter of interest why you would be experiencing this and if there's a DNA typology involved.

[eleni]

No caste- you mean you asked about my genetics or m1?

[no caste]

No caste- do you mean you were deleted from speaking about trip chairs/Montauk etc;

A UFOlogist was told by someone not to delve into my experiences with Montauk (as in her asking me about it) because it was too dangerous to discuss.

I'm not a paranoid type but it's not something I usually discuss due to the overall weirdness of it- it's hard to put the experiences into anything cohesive and given that they did use drugs makes it even weirder.

Oh, I don't know really. I did call Henry Kissinger a big poo (a lot of blood on his hands) - you just wonder all the time. It's been cat and mouse for almost 2 years. It's national security stuff after all.

So, yeah, there are built in ways to debunk, from paying teams online to call it all nuttiness to preventing access to care, to programmed memes in people to commit suicide, to offing key people, and, yes, the pharmaceuticals. I mean, it IS all very weird, including time travel - but I think a bit of a new model of the universe is emerging too, a bit more electromagnetic. People are antennas, or conduits, or instruments for TPTW and so on. Our body systems are electric. I still have to figure out lasers, because I think there's an optical component to manipulations for the mind too, I think, maybe along with radio frequencies. We're not unaffected by all this ambient magnetic sludge is what I can say.

[no caste]

No caste- you mean you asked about my genetics or m1?

Either if you want to volunteer it :winksmiley02:

It's the internet though. I wouldn't get too specific. Forget about PM'ing. They'll get that too, if they want to. Just post it if you wish. I tend to think really generally anyway, like in human migration patterns, e.g. oh yeah, the Celts went there, the Inuit here, the slave trade routes, language patterns and so on. I also happen to believe that our genetic memory speaks in us, so history is now.

I like to watch it internally, like a headnaut.

[eleni]

it doesn't matter how one tries to hide it- on net, in my room here- they have AI and it is indeed REAL- I experienced it. They can tune into whatever they want- it's not paranoia anymore. Anyhow they can kiss my ***! That's how I feel!

Nordic and Celt.

[m1*]

I have no idea what my genetics are, I can't trace my family history. No one knows anything.. I've tried.

edit look at my profile image - you tell me where I'm from.

However, I was recently diagnosed with hemochromatosis (too much Iron in the blood).. it is a genetic condition that northern Europeans get. So I guess I have some genetics from there somewhere.

[akopij]

Burgundia I m not familiar with that egyptian Papyrus on the twelve wheels, but you probably got something there. Not familiar with the shambala either.
M1 is your diagnosis related to Porfiria ? otherwise known as vampirism? Don't get me wrong, i just think there is a reptilian dna connection there. I know two people with exta psychic habilities who has that. It s connected with a defficience or a surplus of bloodcells. I never had memories of abduction by humans and undeground bases, but humans are more dangerous than aliens IMO. shame no time to discuss.
Christ works as a prototypic image the incarnation of creation in a human body, it's not the only image of this nature. When i want to shut the voices and images up to get some sleep, i focus on emptiness and silence, works better. Old jesus won't shut up.
love to all

[m1*]

Burgundia I m not familiar with that egyptian Papyrus on the twelve wheels, but you probably got something there. Not familiar with the shambala either.
M1 is your diagnosis related to Porfiria ? otherwise known as vampirism? Don't get me wrong, i just think there is a reptilian dna connection there. I know two people with exta psychic habilities who has that. It s connected with a defficience or a surplus of bloodcells. I never had memories of abduction by humans and undeground bases, but humans are more dangerous than aliens IMO. shame no time to discuss.
Christ works as a prototypic image the incarnation of creation in a human body, it's not the only image of this nature. When i want to shut the voices and images up to get some sleep, i focus on emptiness and silence, works better. Old jesus won't shut up.
love to all

Never heard of Porfiria. Don't have that. I just have too much Iron in the blood.

Also, for many of the suggestions people give me (as well intentioned as they are), toward "protecting myself" from interference -- I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Believe me, for the things I have experienced:

- Focusing on silence
- Telling entities I am sovereign and to go away
- Visualizing white light
- Etc..

..they will not do a LICK of good, and I can tell that whoever makes such suggestions has absolutely NO idea (not even an inkling) of what I have truly faced. In 33 years, there is only ONE thing that causes these entities to leave me be -- and that is the name Jesus. I can't be more emphatic about that.

[akopij]

was just saying what works for me that's all. Too much iron in the blood is one of the possible symptoms of porfiria. there many different sorts. But I'm not a doctor right, and I don't think even they have a clue. Just adding that the person who had the same vision of the big wheels with signs has it. Actualy too much iron in the blood cells. Sorry to come with something crude, but in remote past lifes i used to be a warlock committing human sacrifices and I remember clealy the taste of human blood. Pleasant isn't it. I do'nt have issues with my blood cells nor a strong attirance to meat. But I know how it works to get inside one's mind and to tap into one's energy. I stay on my own most of the time and don't have sex much because i feel like I m raping the soul of the girl. I can do healings too. **** have to go now

[beren]

- Focusing on silence
- Telling entities I am sovereign and to go away
- Visualizing white light
- Etc..

..they will not do a LICK of good, and I can tell that whoever makes such suggestions has absolutely NO idea (not even an inkling) of what I have truly faced. In 33 years, there is only ONE thing that causes these entities to leave me be -- and that is the name Jesus. I can't be more emphatic about that.[/QUOTE]


I would like to share one thing with you;
my aunt is liveing in one small place in Serbia. Whole her life is not such a good story and her whole close family was very spritual, so to say. I find a better description for that and it is really messing up with spiritism ,pagan worshiping in pretend to worship some Ortodox church saints...
After the death of her mother and my father(her sibling) she was starting to have nightmares with the caracters of my father and their mother.

All would be fine that in those dreams that two entities were representing as my father and her mother (my grandma) were acting like any similar dream... but it was not the case. Those entities were claiming that they are actually alive and that they did not died.

I on my side never had similar dreams except in one situation but completely different than hers.

I told her that next time when they bother her in sleep to try to pray to God and say that Jesus is her savoiur.

Then soon she called and told me next thing.

That night she dreamed her mother and her brother(my late father) that they again came and claimed that they are alive and not dead and burried. Also there was another "woman " in the dream which was messing with something, suddenly when she started to pray to God that "woman " started to stranlge her and stop her from saying Jesus´s name... But after a little time that "woman" who was strangling her ran away...
Also in nights before her late mother was visiting her in dreams and also claiming various stuff, when she started praying ,the late mother said: "well well, look at her she is praying to God!" and then she ran away.

I know that because of my aunt´s involment in spiritism by living in that family she was attacked by demons who were representing themself as her dear beloved brother and mother.

Also something was trying once to scare me while I was dreaming but I managed to say while asleep and in a state of dream that I serve Jesus Christ or similar, I can not remember exactly the words... but that entity just vanished right away!

I do not have experiences with those attacks but I am very aware of their existance on other people. Sometimes I sence starnge energy field and some chill passes through me, but then I ask for God´s help and that is gone...

[eleni]

"I know that because of my aunt´s involment in spiritism by living in that family she was attacked by demons who were representing themself as her dear beloved brother and mother." Deception, and it's being used by more earthbound ET's as well.


I've been bipolar about the entire abduction process- my latest thoughts- the greys are ancient and originate from inner earth maybe in distant past came from another star system- our government/PTB are enslaved by Annunaki- we were fooled into believing all of them left-
Our Government works hand in hand with some because they are scared or are deceived themselves- these *aliens* are not benign.

It's my personal belief that lower astral entities (demons etc ) are a separate matter due to the shifty nature of their appearance (less solid- these grey guys are not even though they have technology that can create
less solid appearance/make us less solid as well/take our astral body etc)

Maybe they tell us they are us from future is because there is indeed planetary issues coming (duh) and surface becomes inhospitable?
Still working on that theory but after reading Tony Dodd's report on
PC I am not left with a comforting feeling.

In essence then Steven Greer is correct in that quarantine exists on our planet but that wouldn't apply to races that have gone underground literally eons ago and have been with us all along......

That said- I was *imprinted* with protection from a whistleblower and can call upon this person when in need and an abduction was indeed stopped last month.
During this past summer I was abducted twice per month- I have not been abducted since early September.

[iainl140285]

Never heard of Porfiria. Don't have that. I just have too much Iron in the blood.

Also, for many of the suggestions people give me (as well intentioned as they are), toward "protecting myself" from interference -- I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Believe me, for the things I have experienced:

- Focusing on silence
- Telling entities I am sovereign and to go away
- Visualizing white light
- Etc..

..they will not do a LICK of good, and I can tell that whoever makes such suggestions has absolutely NO idea (not even an inkling) of what I have truly faced. In 33 years, there is only ONE thing that causes these entities to leave me be -- and that is the name Jesus. I can't be more emphatic about that.

Hi M1*, :welcomeani: to the forum.
Great thread:thumb_yello:

The above, I had read that someplace before - there is a thread here all about it. It always stuck in my mind.

Now I have never been abducted. Seen a few strange craft in the skies, thats it.

But Fri night, (Fri just past) I was asleep and dreamt that I was out in the street outside my house sitting on the pavement with my partner and a friend. It was dark so I dont know why we were sitting out :lol3:.

I got a REALLY weird feeling, like I knew sometjing was coming, then all around the street went kinda misty, but with bright bright white light in both directions. We all panicked and ran towards the house. My partner and myself got in but my friend wasnt there so I ran to the front door and out and looked along the street to see dozens of what can only be described as those little grey things scurrying along towards my house. I slammed the door.

I looked through the spy hole and my friend was outside, but when I opened the door he looked glazed and said, they arent here for him or my partner. (This obviously left myself!) At which point I SHOUTED at the top of my voice ... GOD. I woke up at that very instant.
I dont think I've ever felt that kind of fear before at the point I shouted.

Anyway, good to know for future :original:

[Kinsuemei2]

Dreams, I don’t like my dreams. I have conquered my fear of man; I have conquered my fear of death. But I have yet to conquer my dreams of death, every dream is the same, it is at night and the sky is so beautiful and we see something like a comet hit the city miles away, and nothing happened a lot of smoke and fire but that is all. Minuets pass and we turn on the TV to see what is happening, and the channels all switch off. Again I go outside on the balcony to view the site when a bright light blinds me and I see a mushroom cloud appear, and the oncoming blast wave that revels towards me I feel the heat on my face, then I usually wake up, I am not afraid, but I am very disturbed.

My guides tell me that this is a fear dream, and I believe that, I do believe that it is a reminder of my mortality, and that everything no matter how advanced will come to an end, but also most importantly to remember that, our perception of the end is just that, a jaded misguided perception, as that is simply another beginning, another opportunity to reincarnate and do something better, to grab hold of this life that is beautiful and precious and make something miraculous with it, we see ourselves as victims because we can die. I say we are not, we are privileged to experience a vision on life that is so pure, people wonder why some ET’s envy us because they will never experience the beauty of being a part of something so fleeting that it truly becomes part of a unique experience that cannot be recaptured.
My wife has dreams that involve my guides, it is her way of reaching out to them and they reach back, she has seen and met my guides, but she has problems retaining any information she is given she tends to zone off into their beautiful teardrop eyes, and I must admit if you have never looked into the eyes of one of these beings on mutual ground, it is a wonder to behold. So they give her information in her dreams, and thus she remembers a great deal more.

I have had dreams as a child of Egypt and it always featured Anubis, he was one of my fixations as a child because I dreamt about him at least three nights out seven. I would be ushered into a great hall and he was sat on a golden throne and he was bound in chains, he always spoke through telepathy and was telling me to free him, they brought in women and men who were dressed in the usual garb and then the door was shut as the massive stone door was sealed it went completely dark and I continued to hear the words “Release me” then I would wake up screaming and very scared, I was a kid of course this continued until my first contact in with my guides in 1993.

Of course these are just dreams, but the contact, and the dream stopping is too coincidental for my liking. But I am also sure that many who frequent this forum have recurring dreams.I would like to add that I have never been abducted, all contact has been on mutual ground and once I understood what and who my guides were, they had and have full access, and any ventures with them was purely on a trust basis, and my guides have never shown hostility. But I am aware that hostility does exist within their race, just as it exists within our species.

Of course the same for the reptilian race, some are some are not. From my experience, I have never been attacked but I have been seriously wounded from an encounter, but I also think that was my fault due to my own negativity and ill will towards said vessel.

[akopij]

About the jouney I made in past life, I did this with the help of a spiritual teacher who's also a very close older friend and I have no idea how to do again or to help somebody do it. What I ll describe here is experiences I had before I explored the ufo area and I had a hard time trying to put it all together to make some sense. i still do of course. It was a very clear journey and it described me as an esoteric researcher of symbols, numerology, linguistics etc. The general time period was 19th century and the place was eastern Europe. I don't actualy remember the language, but very clear emotions. I know others have a lot better memories of their past life, that's not really the point of this post. At a certain point, I cut off from my wife and kids to spend all my time in the cellar writing and studying. It ended up with a big complicated book I don't actualy have memory of. Then I die of sickness and alcohol. When I die, first I feel compassion for my family and understand my mistakes, then I get rid of my psychic body (you name it, it's a copy of your physical body made of "electricity") to become an spiritual entity. That's when the big wheels appear, so it's in a plane of reality I cannot realy describe. When you leave both physical and electrical body, you feel and think in a totally diferent way. When I said "above the earth, I mean I could sense that the earth was somewhere in dependence of those wheels, not that the earth was physically underneath those wheels. I could sense an enormous net of connections between various realities, but in terms of people, all I saw was fellow souls getting their directions, and others staying in their physical body for more time. Then we would all pass the "gates of forgetness" and then I just came down on the sofa where I was physically. What I want to tell and ask questions about, besides the wheels, is something that happen afterwards. At that time my sister was co-renting her appartment with a boy she told me was not only an astral traveller, but an entity who wasn't truly from this world, coming from an astral plane and having a double life here and "overthere" as he himself calls it. It wasn't the first time my sister was putting something mad on the table, but what was very particular with this one was that the guy wasn't alone with his experience but was in cooperation and friendship down here with mates he had over there. They would recognize each others, remote communicate through automatic writing, have a whole world of their own. That's what I knew back then. I was downright inquisituous first time I saw him and fired questions up to see if it was BS. He would never answer straight but rather got a bit upset. A few times later he gave me a text he just wrote to read. It was a text on how to detect and improve psychic abilities in kids. I said it was nazi-like and he told me it was me who wrote this in another life and he was asked to give it to me. The fact that he could have made it all up occurred to my mind, but the text was just too scientifically written for him to compose, I read other texts from him before and it was nothing to compare with. What happens next is that I met and dated a girl who was in the same group as him. Let's call the girl X and the guy Z. With X I learned that they were many in the group, some of she knew on earth, others she don't even though she's aware they are there somewhere. I only had a glimpse of a third member, a girl who just looked at me like "shut up you ignorant", so I didn't try to talk. They call themselves "the counsil of Azkham" or Azkam whatever. Their duty is to lead souls from one world to another, and the function socially pretty much like a knight order, in very medieval fashion, especially when it comes to oaths and secret keeping. They know I m talking about it with whoever is listening and for that they just don’t talk to me anymore, but we’re still friendly and we can talk about more earthly things. As X describes it, their multiverse is close to infinite and they don’t know much about the how and why. They deal with departed earthly souls but not only primordially, also with humans and creatures living in very different worlds with different rules of physics, different realities basically. Of course my first questions was what about god ? X just smiled and said she didn’t really buy it or need some sort of faith, but curiously she knew about angels and considered them as mighty knights with unknown behaviour or purpose. She revered them. Silly to say I was in a frustrating position as she knew a damn lot more stuff than I would ever dream of knowing. Then I asked if she had some kind of story of how it all began, a cosmogony. That’s the kind of stuff she wasn’t too keen to share, and I must say I don’t even remember the story, which means I’m just not allowed to know or say. Anyway she didn’t have much of it, very vague and strange. X told me she was at least 600 years old. Counting in earth years, because time over there don’t pass the same way. Time there was more fluctuant than it is here, with more events happening depending of the phase of the moon and the seasons. She couldn’t remember how she came to life, but could give great details about how she acquired the different powers and abilities that actually composed her general position in the council of Azkham. What is relevant I think is that each of these new “powers” would correspond to a certain place with (fantastic) features where she has been, and performed an initiation, and also to a new name she would had to hers, like a title. When I asked questions about space and possible aliens she told me she never went to space but was travelling into different realities only caring about living beings on these planes. About aliens all I know is that she is really scared of them and that it is not something I take lightly. She just called them the others and she hates to talk about it. She had a particular feature or power if you will, it’s that she is a living library. She has access to a huge storage of books. Of course they’re not books like you and I use, but more data storage that souls carry with them. When she described how it worked when they carry departed souls, she said it was a process of absorption of the souls baggage (possibly the karma or electric body) so the soul could begin a new life without the charge of its past life. As she considered herself among the few “real magicians” on the planet, I started to tell her stories about what I was learning of the Magi in university, the Persi mazdean priesthood, she just fell in a trance and began to open one these books. I still have those images in front of me, but it’s kind of off topic and what I can say is not that valuable, so if you’re interested, just google Ahura Mazda or Zarathustra or Zurvan or the Mazdean Calendar. She is the keeper of the books, and she doesn’t or even wants to open them unless someone asks the right question. So I asked why she even bothers to live this life on earth. Came a complicated story where she disagreed with the Azkham council to the point that she created an alternate reality to save the inhabitants of a certain place, and putt the council under a “simulation”, a programmed falsification under which the bad guys in azkham weren’t able to control her and her people. After that she was “killed” and lost a lot of her powers, then, and that’s interesting, she came to birth without knowing WTF she was supposed to do here. Ironic and so human. If anybody who reads this has a similar experience please come forward. If you think I m nuts to the bones, tell me and explain what it was really about. Both X and Z have in common to have very normal earth lives, they really don’t pop out of the ranks, except that they achieve everything they do with great ease and have a huge advance on anybody regarding dealing with people. They both have very active sexual life and can basically do anybody they want. They’re not reptilians in case you’re wondering, there is nothing I noticed in them as not humans, just very advanced humans. X can recover of any sickness, all she has as a particular body feature is little pointed ears. I suspect their sexual appetite is not stranger to their incarnation, or maybe they just enjoy it more. I don’t know what they really are. But they’re my friends. There are things they know about me they don’t tell and things I think I know they don’t want to ear.

M1 this is for your nutcase thread, I didn’t know where to post this

The regression I did opened some gate trough which I began to have memories coming forward. The more remote are in the forest. I m a sort of shaman knight, I chase folks and folks chase me. Recently I had a very distinct memory of organizing ritual murders in a more modern context. And there is the blood taste issue. As I stated somewhere else, I also have very vivid dreams where I m onboard ufo’s and follows a training and programming without my consent. It’s all happening holographicaly, I can tell it’s not real and see the technology but I m forced to play the game. It involves researching artefacts, levitating, organizing battles with humans. I see the grey’s and they’re very robotic and distant. One night I saw the shape of an enormous spaceship shading an also enormous white light, then heard a robotic voice saying “mothership”. A force of an intensity I never felt before tried to get my soul out of my body, but I resisted it and woke up trembling. It’s very possible that I was actually abducted and don’t remember. The ship was the exact same as the one I saw after that on the Bob Dean’s video of the Barcelona exop. summit, and he said NASA calls it mothership as well. A particular vision I had : I see a very exotic landscape and my vision goes a lot further than normal. Everything in the landscape looks like plasma, between gas and liquid, everything is moving, changing shapes and colors, from dark purple to red, and there are light arks like thunder everywhere. The sky is a perfect silver. then I look down to see myself and my body is alien. It’s greenish blue with scales on the outside parts and joints, a soft skin in a very light blue on the muscles to the centre of the body. I want to get out of this position and get out of the body to face it. The alien looks at me with surprise and raise his hands in sign of appeasement. But I m terrified and wake up. His face looked normal for an alien, human size, black eyes like drops just above human size and a mouth with teeth as far as I can tell. I interpreted it as a message about what is the result of a plasma weapon war, but that’s only speculation. I often dream of dna waves.


YouTube - Loxy - Genocide

[no caste]

They call themselves "the counsil of Azkham" or Azkam whatever. Their duty is to lead souls from one world to another, and the function socially pretty much like a knight order, in very medieval fashion, especially when it comes to oaths and secret keeping...

M1 this is for your nutcase thread, I didn’t know where to post this

I m a sort of shaman knight, I chase folks and folks chase me. Recently I had a very distinct memory of organizing ritual murders in a more modern context. And there is the blood taste issue. As I stated somewhere else, I also have very vivid dreams where I m onboard ufo’s and follows a training and programming without my consent...

It’s all happening holographicaly, I can tell it’s not real and see the technology but I m forced to play the game. It involves researching artefacts, levitating, organizing battles with humans. I see the grey’s and they’re very robotic and distant. One night I saw the shape of an enormous spaceship shading an also enormous white light, then heard a robotic voice saying “mothership”.

A force of an intensity I never felt before tried to get my soul out of my body, but I resisted it and woke up trembling. It’s very possible that I was actually abducted and don’t remember.

The ship was the exact same as the one I saw after that on the Bob Dean’s video of the Barcelona exop. summit, and he said NASA calls it mothership as well. A particular vision I had : I see a very exotic landscape and my vision goes a lot further than normal. Everything in the landscape looks like plasma, between gas and liquid, everything is moving, changing shapes and colors, from dark purple to red, and there are light arks like thunder everywhere.

The sky is a perfect silver. then I look down to see myself and my body is alien. It’s greenish blue with scales on the outside parts and joints, a soft skin in a very light blue on the muscles to the centre of the body. I want to get out of this position and get out of the body to face it. The alien looks at me with surprise and raise his hands in sign of appeasement.

But I m terrified and wake up. His face looked normal for an alien, human size, black eyes like drops just above human size and a mouth with teeth as far as I can tell. I interpreted it as a message about what is the result of a plasma weapon war, but that’s only speculation. I often dream of dna waves.

akopij - I think this post of yours is a very important. In fact, if I had access to insiders in the top level military industrial complex, I'd say, Houston, we have a problem, but I don't know who Houston is.

The blood tasting is IMO reflective, like the dentist chair thing of M1, of soldier training gone a bit off the beaten track. I think you're tuning into something that IS going on. Now you can be a super soldier, too.

peace

[cloud9]

Dear akopij,
very hard to read your post, please leave some spaces in between lines so we don't get lost so easily...
Thank you

[eleni]

I am having difficulty looking at it as well (A's post).

[no caste]

Me too, at first. I quoted it and separated it into paragraphs and/or sentences myself. That helped.

[akopij]

sorry guys I ll repost it with space. That's neurotic.

[akopij]

About the jouney I made in past life, I did this with the help of a spiritual teacher who's also a very close older friend and I have no idea how to do again or to help somebody do it. What I ll describe here is experiences I had before I explored the ufo area and I had a hard time trying to put it all together to make some sense. i still do of course.

It was a very clear journey and it described me as an esoteric researcher of symbols, numerology, linguistics etc. The general time period was 19th century and the place was eastern Europe. I don't actualy remember the language, but very clear emotions. I know others have a lot better memories of their past life, that's not really the point of this post. At a certain point, I cut off from my wife and kids to spend all my time in the cellar writing and studying. It ended up with a big complicated book I don't actualy have memory of.

Then I die of sickness and alcohol. When I die, first I feel compassion for my family and understand my mistakes, then I get rid of my psychic body (you name it, it's a copy of your physical body made of "electricity") to become a spiritual entity. That's when the big wheels appear, so it's in a plane of reality I cannot really describe. When you leave both physical and electrical body, you feel and think in a totally different way. When I said "above the earth, I mean I could sense that the earth was somewhere in dependence of those wheels, not that the earth was physically underneath those wheels.

I could sense an enormous net of connections between various realities, but in terms of people, all I saw was fellow souls getting their directions, and others staying in their physical body for more time. Then we would all pass the "gates of forgetness" and then I just came down on the sofa where I was physically. What I want to tell and ask questions about, besides the wheels, is something that happen afterwards.

At that time my sister was co-renting her appartment with a boy she told me was not only an astral traveller, but an entity who wasn't truly from this world, coming from an astral plane and having a double life here and "overthere" as he himself calls it. It wasn't the first time my sister was putting something mad on the table, but what was very particular with this one was that the guy wasn't alone with his experience but was in cooperation and friendship down here with mates he had over there.

They would recognize each others, remote communicate through automatic writing, have a whole world of their own. That's what I knew back then. I was downright inquisituous first time I saw him and fired questions up to see if it was BS. He would never answer straight but rather got a bit upset. A few times later he gave me a text he just wrote to read. It was a text on how to detect and improve psychic abilities in kids. I said it was nazi-like and he told me it was me who wrote this in another life and he was asked to give it to me.

The fact that he could have made it all up occurred to my mind, but the text was just too scientifically written for him to compose, I read other texts from him before and it was nothing to compare with. What happens next is that I met and dated a girl who was in the same group as him. Let's call the girl X and the guy Z.

With X I learned that they were many in the group, some of she knew on earth, others she don't even though she's aware they are there somewhere. I only had a glimpse of a third member, a girl who just looked at me like "shut up you ignorant", so I didn't try to talk. They call themselves "the counsil of Azkham" or Azkam whatever. Their duty is to lead souls from one world to another, and the function socially pretty much like a knight order, in very medieval fashion, especially when it comes to oaths and secret keeping.

They know I m talking about it with whoever is listening and for that they just don’t talk to me anymore, but we’re still friendly and we can talk about more earthly things. As X describes it, their multiverse is close to infinite and they don’t know much about the how and why. They deal with departed earthly souls but not only primordially, also with humans and creatures living in very different worlds with different rules of physics, different realities basically.

Of course my first questions was what about god ? X just smiled and said she didn’t really buy it or need some sort of faith, but curiously she knew about angels and considered them as mighty knights with unknown behaviour or purpose. She revered them. Silly to say I was in a frustrating position as she knew a damn lot more stuff than I would ever dream of knowing. Then I asked if she had some kind of story of how it all began, a cosmogony.

That’s the kind of stuff she wasn’t too keen to share, and I must say I don’t even remember the story, which means I’m just not allowed to know or say. Anyway she didn’t have much of it, very vague and strange. X told me she was at least 600 years old. Counting in earth years, because time over there don’t pass the same way. Time there was more fluctuant than it is here, with more events happening depending of the phase of the moon and the seasons.

She couldn’t remember how she came to life, but could give great details about how she acquired the different powers and abilities that actually composed her general position in the council of Azkham. What is relevant I think is that each of these new “powers” would correspond to a certain place with (fantastic) features where she has been, and performed an initiation, and also to a new name she would had to hers, like a title. When I asked questions about space and possible aliens she told me she never went to space but was travelling into different realities only caring about living beings on these planes. About aliens all I know is that she is really scared of them and that it is not something I take lightly. She just called them the others and she hates to talk about it.

She had a particular feature or power if you will, it’s that she is a living library. She has access to a huge storage of books. Of course they’re not books like you and I use, but more data storage that souls carry with them. When she described how it worked when they carry departed souls, she said it was a process of absorption of the souls baggage (possibly the karma or electric body) so the soul could begin a new life without the charge of its past life. As she considered herself among the few “real magicians” on the planet, I started to tell her stories about what I was learning of the Magi in university, the Persi mazdean priesthood, she just fell in a trance and began to open one these books.

I still have those images in front of me, but it’s kind of off topic and what I can say is not that valuable, so if you’re interested, just google Ahura Mazda or Zarathustra or Zurvan or the Mazdean Calendar. She is the keeper of the books, and she doesn’t or even wants to open them unless someone asks the right question. So I asked why she even bothers to live this life on earth. Came a complicated story where she disagreed with the Azkham council to the point that she created an alternate reality to save the inhabitants of a certain place, and putt the council under a “simulation”, a programmed falsification under which the bad guys in azkham weren’t able to control her and her people.

After that she was “killed” and lost a lot of her powers, then, and that’s interesting, she came to birth without knowing WTF she was supposed to do here. Ironic and so human. If anybody who reads this has a similar experience please come forward. If you think I m nuts to the bones, tell me and explain what it was really about. Both X and Z have in common to have very normal earth lives, they really don’t pop out of the ranks, except that they achieve everything they do with great ease and have a huge advance on anybody regarding dealing with people. They both have very active sexual life and can basically do anybody they want.

They’re not reptilians in case you’re wondering, there is nothing I noticed in them as not humans, just very advanced humans. X can recover of any sickness, all she has as a particular body feature is little pointed ears. I suspect their sexual appetite is not stranger to their incarnation, or maybe they just enjoy it more. I don’t know what they really are. But they’re my friends. There are things they know about me they don’t tell and things I think I know they don’t want to ear.

M1 this is for your nutcase thread, I didn’t know where to post this

The regression I did opened some gate trough which I began to have memories coming forward. The more remote are in the forest. I m a sort of shaman knight, I chase folks and folks chase me. Recently I had a very distinct memory of organizing ritual murders in a more modern context. And there is the blood taste issue.

As I stated somewhere else, I also have very vivid dreams where I m onboard ufo’s and follows a training and programming without my consent. It’s all happening holographicaly, I can tell it’s not real and see the technology but I m forced to play the game. It involves researching artefacts, levitating, organizing battles with humans. I see the grey’s and they’re very robotic and distant.
One night I saw the shape of an enormous spaceship shading an also enormous white light, then heard a robotic voice saying “mothership”. A force of an intensity I never felt before tried to get my soul out of my body, but I resisted it and woke up trembling. It’s very possible that I was actually abducted and don’t remember. The ship was the exact same as the one I saw after that on the Bob Dean’s video of the Barcelona exop. summit, and he said NASA calls it mothership as well.

A particular vision I had : I see a very exotic landscape and my vision goes a lot further than normal. Everything in the landscape looks like plasma, between gas and liquid, everything is moving, changing shapes and colors, from dark purple to red, and there are light arks like thunder everywhere. The sky is a perfect silver. then I look down to see myself and my body is alien. It’s greenish blue with scales on the outside parts and joints, a soft skin in a very light blue on the muscles to the centre of the body. I want to get out of this position and get out of the body to face it. The alien looks at me with surprise and raise his hands in sign of appeasement. But I m terrified and wake up. His face looked normal for an alien, human size, black eyes like drops just above human size and a mouth with teeth as far as I can tell. I interpreted it as a message about what is the result of a plasma weapon war, but that’s only speculation. I often dream of dna waves.


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[iainl140285]

M1* - can you tell us what your name means? :original:

It looks like M 1(A) STAR as in MASTER?

[m1*]

I was sitting at my computer one day.

Then the cursor started typing by itself.

It said:

,m1*


I decided that is a good a name to use as any.

Most forums and chat's wont let me use the , so I just stick with m1* or just m1 if I am also not allowed to use the star.

It was given to me by Mr Nobody -- fiddling with my computer.

I always figured it might mean: Comet M1 Star .. but I don't know what it might mean, if it means anything at all.

However, your explanation for the name is also pretty good :)

Also, the M1 is crab nebula (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0509/m1_not_big.jpg) - I found that out online.