False Flag UFO attack...True of False?

[viking]

Ok, with all these False Flag Scenarios which according to many spokesmen/women will happen...

How would you know if they are for real??

Are they the PTB (were) or are they our Brothers and sisters? How would you know?


YouTube - FALSE FLAG UFO ATTACK PLAN ON THE WORLD


YouTube - PT4 RADIO-NOW THAT'S WEIRD-IAN R CRANE ON UFO FALSE FLAG

YouTube - The Ultimate Deception - The Final Attack

viking

[mntruthseeker]

Viking

First of all these video's clearly show TPTB's intent..............its what we do with it that matters

We know that "our thoughts" can change the outcome

Do we want to let them put fear out there or our love for peace?

I dont care what the aliens look like, it doesn't matter. They are all Gods creations. Same as us

I think that this is an attempt to frighten us because they know that if we win this battle they will no longer be in power.............they are the ones that have something to worry about not us. They are unable to evolve as we can

I will not go along with their attempts to push fear in me because I want more than anything for us all to live in love with no divisions.

I believe that we are worth saving and we will win this battle. I believe that there is so much help on their way and its all for world peace. A Universal World.

Our thoughts are so important and they already decided we are worth this evolution.

They have much to lose and lets see that they do indeed LOSE

[Stargazer1965]

Ok, with all these False Flag Scenarios which according to many spokesmen/women will happen...

How would you know if they are for real??

Are they the PTB (were) or are they our Brothers and sisters? How would you know?


YouTube - FALSE FLAG UFO ATTACK PLAN ON THE WORLD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5_LNZF8l2Y)


YouTube - PT4 RADIO-NOW THAT'S WEIRD-IAN R CRANE ON UFO FALSE FLAG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sHhzrzzD0s)

YouTube - The Ultimate Deception - The Final Attack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIL7ghlI42w)

viking

Every time I read this...I start giggling....

I can just see the president introduce NIMROD from the GOORG and a guy in a bad alien costume shuffles forward and his arm spontaneously falls off....or it trips and lands on it face....:lmao:

[RedeZra]

Every time I read this...I start giggling....

I can just see the president introduce NIMROD from the GOORG and a guy in a bad alien costume shuffles forward and his arm spontaneously falls off....or it trips and lands on it face....:lmao:


lol yes that would be a funny scenario

let's hope if they try to pull a false alien flag on us

that it will be a complete farse and a hilarious failure

ufos spinning out of control airsick aliens in bad costumes

stumbling around the white house lawn and attacked by Bo the white house dog

[Jnana]

I've seen sufficient evidence that such plans are real.

Will the plan be executed?
If so, when?

I think it remains a possibility. I don't know if it would be staged as a "surprise attack", or if they would attempt some sort of emotional build-up in the press prior to the simulated attack. I think there is still a chance that it can be averted entirely. We'll see.

[TRANCOSO]

"The good news is that those who really should fear us, are the ones who betray their own species," my alien penpal from Aldabaran once told me.

I'm still waiting on his reply to my question what the bad news is.

[mntruthseeker]

"The good news is that those who really should fear us, are the ones who betray their own species," my alien penpal from Aldabaran once told me.

I'm still waiting on his reply to my question what the bad news is.


LOL make sure you tell us the answer.....I suspect its us changing our sub-conscious mind..............and erasing the ****/programs that they loaded it with

[viking]

Ok, joking aside .....

How would we know the differance with the real thing??

Seriously think about it....how would you discern if they are real or not... is the technology they have (PTB) so far advanced that we wouldn't have a clue??

Also let's suppose there were ET's up there with motives for there own benefit how will you discern if they have good intentions or bad??

viking

[mntruthseeker]

I say FALSE

there will be no alien attack. They programmed our minds to have these thoughts and only WE can change them

So when people say they are writing their own realities...........that is part of it. erase that program and put in your new one that doesnt include fear

I hope that makes sense to us because I know it took me awhile to "catch" on about changing my reality but I know now and I see it working more and more everyday.

It will not happen

[TheObserver]

The fact that it's an attack would make it false flag in my book.

[viking]

I say FALSE

there will be no alien attack. They programmed our minds to have these thoughts and only WE can change them

So when people say they are writing their own realities...........that is part of it. erase that program and put in your new one that doesnt include fear

I hope that makes sense to us because I know it took me awhile to "catch" on about changing my reality but I know now and I see it working more and more everyday.

It will not happen

I totally agree with you Truthseeker and Observer... It will not happen... I just want people to understand the huge implications of the PTW were to try this... surely we would recognize the true reality...wouldn't we??

OK truthseeker lets say we have Disclosure of some sort and eventual contact...how would you discern if they have good intentions or not...

I think these are important questions as we are getting closer to Disclosure...... thoughts anyone???

viking

[Peace of mind]

trust yourself....also, keeping a pure heart will aid in filtering out the impurities. This is one sure way to tell what's real or not. The soul can feel all viberations, everything haves a vibe to it.

[Fredkc]

First, I assume that any government initiated "disclosure" is either:


Not good,
Fake,
Or both.

See Werner Von Braun's warning, coupled with the fact that it stands to reason any govt disclosure will take care to hide all the evil cr@p government has done with it, in the past.

[mntruthseeker]

Very good answer Peace :thumb_yello:

Viking this is relatively new for me and it took me awhile to understand


To be honest with you, I no longer believe in all the BS that is coming at us.

In my heart I trust that our Universal family is in a much better "frame" of mind so to speak. They do love us and want nothing but good. They already know how to live in harmony. We are part of that and came here to help save our planet. We just need to remember the way it was and believe it with no attachments included

I know that ever since I figured out that it was up to me to change the program, I don't have a problem reading these type of threads.......

NO NO I'm not saying anything against you, its out there and people are viewing these videos and we are being aware of what is heading towards our family members and love ones that are still sleeping................

I know that "just" reading this is not going to make it happen as it no longer scares me. I'm through with their games.............

I know I need to work harder on passing around the cure so to speak

negativity can only change your mind if you are not able to stop it from putting fear into your mind.

My friends told me once, there is no joy at the end of fear and she is absolutely correct

[TRANCOSO]

Consider this: Perhaps there ARE alien 'motherships' spinning around our planet, but mainly with the purpose to PREVENT a False Flag attack by TPTB.

Mind you, they won't interfere when TPTB start a war under their own (Illuminati/Skull & Bones) flag, or whatever that flag may look like.

If there's going to be a 'False Flag' attack, TPTB better think twice about whose Flag their gonna use.

[Swanny]

First, I think that anything the government says is a lie especially if it is negative :thumbdown:

If/when aliens do come here they will be so much more advanced than us that if they wanted to take control it would be easy for them to do so. So any government saying we are in a war with them must be full of s'it.

[Jnana]

A false flag alien attack will be STUPID. It won't take out key military equipment. It won't eliminate our ability to respond. It will hit things that are symbolic, but not important. Anything important will be "coincidentally" out of the way. We will have absurdly good news coverage of it. There will be lots of big explosions. We will shoot down some of the craft. We won't be utterly defeated in the first five minutes. The situation will be desperate, but it will look like we have a fighting chance if we just pull together. It could be a hit and run giving us time to build up a defensive force in response. Stuff like that.

[mntruthseeker]

[QUOTE=TRANCOSO;183983]Consider this: Perhaps there ARE alien 'motherships' spinning around our planet, but mainly with the purpose to PREVENT a False Flag attack by TPTB.

There are space crafts spinning aoround our planet as we speak. There is no doubt in my mind that they are here to help us.

The so called evil reptilians supposely broke the treaty and are doing whatever they want now..... OK so what are they waiting for ? fMaybe for TPTB to decide when they should attack ? OH for sure I believe that :naughty:

[TheObserver]

Also if it's 'breaking news' on all tv channels it's false flag.

[waitinginthewings]

I say FALSE

there will be no alien attack. They programmed our minds to have these thoughts and only WE can change them

So when people say they are writing their own realities...........that is part of it. erase that program and put in your new one that doesnt include fear

I hope that makes sense to us because I know it took me awhile to "catch" on about changing my reality but I know now and I see it working more and more everyday.

It will not happen

does this mean that you will not exerience the invasion, not even be aware its happening? But the rest of the world will experience it, because they are not creating the same reality that you are.......just trying to understand how this creating your own reality really works:sad:

[14 Chakras]

How would humanity supposedly have a war with ET's that are tens of thousands of years more advanced than us technologically speaking?

They would obviously instantly be able to take over if it was just a battle of technology. However, it is not just a battle of technology. It is a spiritual take over that is planned.

If there is some kind of 'attack' of course it is false flag. But why would you assume that it is humans behind the false flag event rather than ET government. In the end, the ET's interfering directly here and not telling you that you can solve your own problems when you connect to your divine source within may very well have their own agenda's, which first and foremost is being your new government and your new leaders.

This is your planet. Claim it. Take dominion over it. God within you can solve the problems we apparently face now. Remember you are More than the character you're playing in the matrix. Be.

[TheObserver]

I'm not saying ETs (or EDs) in gov't wouldn't be involved of course. :naughty:

[mntruthseeker]

First off, I have to wonder what has prevented them from doing so for such a very long time already ..............nada thing.

So I believe that they are in the minorities. The world is waking up and we are filling the energy field with positive thoughts and bringing forth the light........TPTB is all darkness and the light will blow them out of our space and we will move into 5th where they are unable to survive. They no longer run the program....we are in control of our own. Thats what is different this time.................we make the changes we want.

no attack will happen. They can't exist on the dimension we are moving to

You see we are worth saving Everyday more and more are waking up, those of us that are "finally" getting it will have to help those that are now just awakening. Its not an easy process at all.

The crafts are not just hovering around our planet. They are helping to remove the veil so that our "memories" will start to come back. Its happening more and more everyday. OH yes, we have so much help and they love us dearly. So many of our love ones cheering us on. We just have to listen.

IMO anyhow

[14 Chakras]

"First off, I have to wonder what has prevented them from doing so for such a very long time already"

Consider (From my perspective the reason is):
A) TPTB are ET. They already run the show.
B) Cosmic law is what prevents them from doing it against your free will.
C) You give no credit whatsoever to the infinite, to the Archangels, to the ascended beings of light to put a stop to their shenanigans which is exactly why they haven't been more successful in the late of stirring up trouble.

If we are only willing to look for our saviors in 3d and not willing to connect to spiritual truth, it is obvious, we need good ET's to come save us from the bad humans (which are in reality ET themselves). However, when we are willing to search and find in our own heart we will find that spiritual truth is where the power lies, not outside but inside.

[waitinginthewings]

does this mean that you will not exerience the invasion, not even be aware its happening? But the rest of the world will experience it, because they are not creating the same reality that you are.......just trying to understand how this creating your own reality really works:sad:

Mntruthseeker...I am interested in your understanding as to the question posed.

[mntruthseeker]

OH I do not expect "good ETs" to get us through this.

Our Creator, the true God and our Savior is a huge part of this.

Yes, of course, I too, believe TPTB are the reptilians but what I'm saying is their "running the show" is just about over.

We all know we will not die...........we will move on without them.

I dont even think the H1N1 has all that much power. When we heal ourselfs we will wipe out their deseases and walk away without a scratch so to speak.

Why do you think they want to give us more than one shot? The report out of China clearly indicated that the children were healing themselfs. Our powers are being restored..............thats what is happening. There is a whole lot more of us

They have to falsify the reports.

My newspaper just carried an article that started: The Anoka County Jail inmates have H1N1. My niece works there so I asked, is it true ? She says no, two guys have coughs and flu symptoms but thats all. Two days they walked around with mask. evreyone else is fine. False reports

So thats all they can do now...........trying to scare us.........

[viking]

To be honest with you, I no longer believe in all the BS that is coming at us.

In my heart I trust that our Universal family is in a much better "frame" of mind so to speak. They do love us and want nothing but good. They already know how to live in harmony. We are part of that and came here to help save our planet. We just need to remember the way it was and believe it with no attachments included


:thumb_yello:

viking

[Steven]

Ok, with all these False Flag Scenarios which according to many spokesmen/women will happen...

How would you know if they are for real??

Are they the PTB (were) or are they our Brothers and sisters? How would you know?


Hello Viking. Again, you are bringing forth a great thread carrying a great question.

To me it is very very clear and simple. If there is a an alien attack, or alien kind of invasion, it makes no doubt in my mind it will be fake and will be brought by the "manipulators".

Why? Because it as been said by many outside source that I trust, Alex Collier, "Handbooks for the New Paradigm" series, Marshall Vian Summers, that there is no more force invasion in our galaxy. It is simply not existing anymore because of the many alliances observing what is happening here. The only mean an alien presence might use to overthrow an indigenous race from its sovereignty is by skillfully convincing this race to recognize them as new sovereign. Against this tactic, if successful, there is nothing the alliances of our galaxy can do about it.

Plus, many other sources, like Richard Haogland, Jordan Maxwell, John Lear, Bob Dean or Wernher Van Braun mentioned the very possibility for the "manipulators" to use this tactic in order to bring about their one world government. They need something BIG in order to get the necessary amount of panic and fear from the masses to support there final move for New World Order without being to much bother by the few Awakened who will shout their voice against it.

NO ALIEN FORCE WILL EVER INVADE US BY FORCE. If this happens, it will certainly be a false flag, no doubt about it. Independence day was a movie, "alien invasion" if it ever comes, will be also a movie, be it holographic or else, it will be still a movie...

Namaste, Steven

[mntruthseeker]

I have to agree with Steven Everyone must consider the source

Yesterday I posted some videos here and then listened to them and thought, OOPS, not the message I want to send

I acted before thinking will get me in trouble all the time

I also remember so many others that are no longer with us and that seemed to be their message also.

[artvision]

I've seen sufficient evidence that such plans are real.

Will the plan be executed?
If so, when?



28-Oct-2011
The Dark Knight Day

It is fitting the revealing from the elites brought recently by pastor Lindsey:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17363
plus I have a ton of referrals and info on the subject. I'm almost certain will happen then, already all the gear are in motion. Should I mention the Norwegian Politician said in his letter, when supposed the bunkers for elites must be ready? End of 2011! So the 21-Dec-2012 is a hoax to dumb down the masses, TPTB buy time for their purposes. Also, another sign of their technology is functional: the second UFO cloud, same as over Moscow, now in Romania?

YouTube - OPERATION BLUEBEAM Second Ring of light in the clouds this time in Romania

I have an analyse report on many pages, sorry, but it is in Romanian I may translate part of it, if people interested...

[viking]

Hello Viking. Again, you are bringing forth a great thread carrying a great question.

To me it is very very clear and simple. If there is a an alien attack, or alien kind of invasion, it makes no doubt in my mind it will be fake and will be brought by the "manipulators".

Why? Because it as been said by many outside source that I trust, Alex Collier, "Handbooks for the New Paradigm" series, Marshall Vian Summers, that there is no more force invasion in our galaxy. It is simply not existing anymore because of the many alliances observing what is happening here. The only mean an alien presence might use to overthrow an indigenous race from its sovereignty is by skillfully convincing this race to recognize them as new sovereign. Against this tactic, if successful, there is nothing the alliances of our galaxy can do about it.

Plus, many other sources, like Richard Haogland, Jordan Maxwell, John Lear, Bob Dean or Wernher Van Braun mentioned the very possibility for the "manipulators" to use this tactic in order to bring about their one world government. They need something BIG in order to get the necessary amount of panic and fear from the masses to support there final move for New World Order without being to much bother by the few Awakened who will shout their voice against it.

NO ALIEN FORCE WILL EVER INVADE US BY FORCE. If this happens, it will certainly be a false flag, no doubt about it. Independence day was a movie, "alien invasion" if it ever comes, will be also a movie, be it holographic or else, it will be still a movie...

Namaste, Steven

Agree ... Thanks Steven very well put.

So the question is... if we have Disclosure and we are invited to our Cosmic Family ... Do we accept with open arms?

viking

[Steven]

Agree ... Thanks Steven very well put.

So the question is... if we have Disclosure and we are invited to our Cosmic Family ... Do we accept with open arms?

viking

Hello Viking. Thank you so much for what you bring here, these are crucial questions IMO.

To your question my answer is ''of course''. As long as they do not come under the disguise of saviours taking action against our ''Elite'' and bringing us the free energy we already have invented. Because if it happen this way, it would be a good sign they are not well intended, rather perpetrating a pattern of saviour-oppressor-victim in which we struggle to come out as a race.

It all depends when they are coming out of the clouds. After we awake as race and become responsible on our future, so when they come, they will not have to save us from ourselves, or before we awake to the Universal Laws and the ''manipulation'' behind the scene in order to appear as ''saviours'' with their technologies and eliminating our ''Elite''?

In other words, will they ''assist'' us or will they ''save'' us? It is a matter of when they will come out. After the global awakening or before? My point of reference being the end of the evolution of consciousness brought to us by the Mayan with their pyramid of evolution of consciousness.

Namaste, Steven

[Jnana]

Agree ... Thanks Steven very well put.

So the question is... if we have Disclosure and we are invited to our Cosmic Family ... Do we accept with open arms?

viking

In our current state of consciousness, I expect no such invitation on a planetary scale. Individually, it is already happening. Xenophobia and paranoia still reign on our dismal planet, and we still kill each other and celebrate successful mass murder like it's a football game or something.

Joining the galactic community is one part of the transformation of consciousness that many, including Greer, are saying is imminent. To those who make the transition, I think it will be clear that there is great joy to found in being a part of the greater scheme of life in the universe. Our oneness with all other intelligent life forms will be obvious. There will be no need to ask such questions.

If there is a formal invitation of some sort prior to such a transformation, I would be wary, especially if some group claims to be our saviours and our corrupt political system is still in place. It could be part of a false flag attack/rescue scenario with fake ET bad guys and good guys designed to impose tyranny.

[Stargazer1965]

In our current state of consciousness, I expect no such invitation on a planetary scale. Individually, it is already happening. Xenophobia and paranoia still reign on our dismal planet, and we still kill each other and celebrate successful mass murder like it's a football game or something.

Joining the galactic community is one part of the transformation of consciousness that many, including Greer, are saying is imminent. To those who make the transition, I think it will be clear that there is great joy to found in being a part of the greater scheme of life in the universe. Our oneness with all other intelligent life forms will be obvious. There will be no need to ask such questions.

If there is a formal invitation of some sort prior to such a transformation, I would be wary, especially if some group claims to be our saviours and our corrupt political system is still in place. It could be part of a false flag attack/rescue scenario with fake ET bad guys and good guys designed to impose tyranny.

And this decloaking scenario...Isn't that the equivalent of jumping out and yelling BOOO!!

Its not like we aren't like a bunch of scared cattle most days.

How many messages from sources that most of us trust (Wilcock...Collier..Hoagland) talk about the false flag scenario?

The crop circle talking about the false friends and actually picturing some of them.

I guarantee after the false flag and after I clean my pants out...I'd have to revert back to my de-programming and say..."NOPE ain't getting on that ship MOM...the next one will be real and be along in a bit"

The awake folks would even be fooled.....No offense Viking but if your scenario played out...you'd stand in line for a "tour" of the mother ship...

Chip implantation to the right......DNA testing to the left....Please hold questions till the end of the tour.....

Man talk about the FALSE PROPHET FLAG scenario.

Wave to me...I'll be the one still standing at the bus stop.....:smoke:

[Initiate]

"First off, I have to wonder what has prevented them from doing so for such a very long time already"

Consider (From my perspective the reason is):
A) TPTB are ET. They already run the show.
B) Cosmic law is what prevents them from doing it against your free will.
C) You give no credit whatsoever to the infinite, to the Archangels, to the ascended beings of light to put a stop to their shenanigans which is exactly why they haven't been more successful in the late of stirring up trouble.

If we are only willing to look for our saviors in 3d and not willing to connect to spiritual truth, it is obvious, we need good ET's to come save us from the bad humans (which are in reality ET themselves). However, when we are willing to search and find in our own heart we will find that spiritual truth is where the power lies, not outside but inside.

TPTB have been running the show but their time is at an end and when the veil is lifted through consciousness upliftment then their power base will come timbling down.

Cosmic Law has prevented many disasters and there have been many many averted disasters. We have friends in higher places who have enforced, and are prepared to enforce, the laws should and when the need arise. TPTB are desperate now to see their ends met. This is a universal problem and a universal solution is in the process of being presented. As you rightfully point out, Untimately the solution is in each and every one of us.

I am grateful for the protection we have had and are getting until the day arives that humanity and planet earth are raised up.

Thankyou to the infinite and all those expressions of the infinite that are our guiding protectors.