THE WATCHER Directional Change

[THEWATCHER]

New course of action to be implemented in due course

[THEWATCHER]

By way of explanation. Liken disclosure to a train, its journey started after WW2 and slowly
and surely it made its way along the tracks to the envisioned 'Disclosure Terminus'.
Make no mistake, this is a very strictly controlled train, monitored rigidly, it must meet
the requirements long ago set down for final disclosure to the masses. Disclosure will be
what 'they' want it to be, moulded, shaped, formed and colored the way 'they' want it.
Along the journey many insiders, whistleblowers, researchers get on the train, gladly
looking towards their part in the final open disclosure. The conductor regularly comes
along and checks each persons ticket (disclosure claims) and decides if it meets the
preset agenda of the controllers or not. If it does they remain on the train to the end.
If not they are requested to leave the train at the next station. Anyone whose ticket
(disclosure claims) oppose the narrow restricted limits imposed by them is rapidly
thrown from the train. Anyone whom threatens to expose the contrived and controlled
agenda of final disclosure will be ejected from the train.
Now you know.

[no caste]

Note: I intended to post this note on your old thread.

predictive programming almost as its happening now
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17262

[Kari Lynn]

Who's hand is on the throttle?
Who's hand is on the brake?

The cars full of civilians that keep merging from side rail lines; where do they come from? And the ones that get disconnected and a switch thrown, where do they go?

Why are there certain rail cars we're not allowed to look in?

I tried to bail off the train and walk safely behind, and off the side of the track, so that I could explore where my car came from, but damn if there wasn't a car that came by with a mail hook that snatched me back up and pulled me back in.

I'm also worried someone may have blown up a bridge or tunnel in attempts to stop the train.

[TheObserver]

What happened to the old thread, what if a newbie wanted to read it, is it archived?

[THEWATCHER]

They insisted the thread was to be pulled, and pulled it was. They have full printouts of entire thread. As far as I am aware it is not archived anywhere. Unfortunate loss, so many good kind souls have put their hearts into that. String pullers will always win.

[TheObserver]

The little 'they' of Bill & Kerry or the bigger 'they' of so called PTB/W?

[THEWATCHER]

Bill and Kerry probably have no idea its gone anyways or would concern themselves over it even if they knew!!

[THEWATCHER]

New course of action to be implemented in due course

So please, lets leave it at that till new direction process is in place...........

[orthodoxymoron]

It seems that people can try to do the right thing...and try to help make the world a better place...but that the hidden SuperPowers have other ideas. They have something like a 1,000 year plan...and nothing will be allowed to interfere with it. Jordan Maxwell seemed pretty resigned to a dark future for humankind. We keep getting chided for being the new kids on the block. I think this is total BS. I feel like very powerful forces are making an example out of the human race...so that no other uppity races or planets make an attempt to become truly free. Well if this is the way it's going to be...I want off. I will not participate in this cr@p. Or do I have a choice in the matter? I just don't relish the idea of an eternity of tyranny. But this seems to be the divine plan. I feel so f....ng loved. We can thrash around..trying to figure things out...if we wish. But if we get too smart...we'll get stepped on...like a bug.

I was having a bad day...and my rant was somewhat tangential...but that was how I felt...and it seemed to be related to the plug-pulling. I'm usually more optimistic. Still...the substance of the rant should be considered as a distinct possibility.

[FIIISH]

I am sorry for the loss, Watcher.

All good things...

For now...

[Kari Lynn]

They insisted the thread was to be pulled, and pulled it was. They have full printouts of entire thread. As far as I am aware it is not archived anywhere. Unfortunate loss, so many good kind souls have put their hearts into that. String pullers will always win.

They always seem to know when I haven't been able to save.

The last time this happened, I was asked why they would do this, if they want disclosure. They being those in control of making the decisions of what and when can be disclosed, and even deleting and retracting information already given. They being the "string pullers" as you have put it.
Myself, I think that there are some of the string pullers not wanting disclosure.
They've tried to stop and discredit you in almost every way possible. And failed. So now they are trying to stop it by removing your audience.
By letting you give a little bit, then taking it away in such a manner. They are making the people feel frustrated, disheartened, and finally, disinterested and they leave.
In 5 years I've been observing these forums, I've seen this happen many times, and lost many friends.

this of course is my own opinion as to why this keep happening. I could be wrong, as I haven't talked to the "string pullers" in person. But I just wanted to leave my idea here, incase anyone was getting disheartened, frustrated. They might see a view as to a possible reason why.

My suggestion; Save/back up daily to paper, disk, flash. Then when they do it again, you can go :tongue2: back at them.

BTW :tongue2:

Then we could be bad little students, and copy and paste! Wouldn't that p*ss them off! ROFL.

[Jacqui D]

Hi Kari lynn i'm sure some will have kept some info.
can't believe this has happened and the way it was done!
I would like to know what this new course of action maybe hm!:wall:

[TruthWillSetUFree]

They insisted the thread was to be pulled, and pulled it was. They have full printouts of entire thread. As far as I am aware it is not archived anywhere. Unfortunate loss, so many good kind souls have put their hearts into that. String pullers will always win.

What? This was the most popular thread on PA with a lot of great information! Why would they "pull it" I hate those words since 9/11 btw
That is WRONG if you ask me. I am so sorry Watcher

Is there any way to request they be archived for those who would like to read them?

[orthodoxymoron]

Has there been an 'official' explanation of what occurred? I can understand some oversight and guidance of the disclosure process...so that it occurs in a relatively harmless manner. Many things may be shocking and upsetting to a lot of people (including me). But Avalon seems to be an appropriate place to reveal many deep, dark secrets...as well as providing positive and uplifting information. There is a time and a place for just about everything.

[no caste]

I didn't back anything up. So, as I remember it: 5992 Psy-ops, some discussions about the trains and who might be on them, buckling up cargo, UN jeeps, who funds films and slips information (NSA) to filmmakers for the public, comes up with terms like 'DNA activation'. There were hand-drawn maps of Peasemore facility underground 1980's and the security uniform, with talk of a black box (?).

There was a lawyer going after the Obama birth certificate thing, which I've also heard (Ken* NSA somebody, will post link (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17502) as name comes to me) is also an Israeli maybe Lieberman effort.

For my part, The Fourth Kind with Milla Jovovich reminded me of Milla Jovovich Resident Evil Umbrella Corporation (Opened September 21, 2007)

Resident Evil: Extinction

It all seems to fit with Umbrella Corp's de-population plans right now. There were other 'come togethers' like AI, biometrics, robotics, quantum computing, naval wars and undersea bases, natural time portals (crystal caves).

There was a grey avatar for Watcher - red card soccer game - I wondered who the midfielder was. In soccer, it's a 'general' on the field, plans the plays, like Napoleon or Aristotle/Alexander. It looks like this string puller (puppeteer/s, midfielder) just nuked the game instead. {big shot, big shots}

Watcher also asked an angel for a star. I don't care about thread ratings, so I paid no mind and wouldn't know how to do it anyway (with no inclination to learn). There was also a question about why nobody was walking 'through'. Through what?

PS - I saved this!

[Kari Lynn]

Hi Kari lynn i'm sure some will have kept some info.
can't believe this has happened and the way it was done!
I would like to know what this new course of action maybe hm!:wall:
Indeed, someone did! I'm hoping between the two of us, we have it pretty much intact. Waiting to see.

As I said, from watching this happen repeatedly over the 5 yrs I've been on the forums, It's usually one of several things that have happened.
A. new department head comes into play and changes rules. Or the US NSA comes for a visit. Either way, it's a flexation of muscles. (I like calling it Testrosterone reflux, every so often it just bubbles up on them, they can't help themselves!)

B. something contained within information was "restricted" and was deleted, to prevent people from going back and regaining that information.
ei. "The Artifact" consisting of 5 DNA linked human/artifact units that is powerful enough to either destroy or save the world, depending on who has control of it in it's entirety.

C. and probably most often; the thread got off track, of the direction they wanted it/us to go, so they delete it in hopes they can start over and steer it/us in the right way or shall I say, the way they WANT it/us to go. (can we say Mind Control? Oops, did I just say that out loud?)

D. And lastly as I said, there are those within the agency that DON'T want disclosure, and I believe this constant give a little, take it all back, is their way of trying to remove the interest of Barry's audience. Each time it's happened, I've seen friends leave the forum and go elsewhere, because they couldn't handle the confusion, and conflict, they being disheartened and disappointed.

Me, I'm hanging around till someone points me in the direction of who's knee to kick! lol

[Kari Lynn]

I didn't back anything up. So, as I remember it: 5992 Psy-ops, some discussions about the trains and who might be on them, buckling up cargo, UN jeeps, who funds films and slips information (NSA) to filmmakers for the public, comes up with terms like 'DNA activation'. There were hand-drawn maps of Peasemore facility underground 1980's and the security uniform, with talk of a black box (?).

There was a lawyer going after the Obama birth certificate thing, which I've also heard (Ken* NSA somebody, will post link name comes to me) is also an Israeli maybe Lieberman effort.

For my part, The Fourth Kind with Milla Jovovich reminded me of Milla Jovovich Resident Evil Umbrella Corporation (Opened September 21, 2007)

Resident Evil: Extinction

It all seems to fit with Umbrella Corp's de-population plans right now. There were other 'come togethers' like AI, biometrics, robotics, quantum computing, naval wars and undersea bases, natural time portals (crystal caves).

There was a grey avatar for Watcher - red card soccer game - I wondered who the midfielder was. In soccer, it's a 'general' on the field, plans the plays, like Napoleon or Aristotle/Alexander. It looks like this string puller (puppeteer/s, midfielder) just nuked the game instead. {big shot, big shots}

Watcher also asked an angel for a star. I don't care about thread ratings, so I paid no mind and wouldn't know how to do it anyway (with no inclination to learn). There was also a question about why nobody was walking 'through'. Through what?

Tactics - isolate, fragment, remove resources, delete trains of thought

PS - I saved this!
Let me help you out with our memory a bit. ROFL.

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/bases/Image17x.jpg

[iainl140285]

Key parts of the thread will ALWAYS survive someplace ...

[Kari Lynn]

It's back! Thanks guys!

[Jacqui D]

well i'm hanging around, been here from the beginning so not going now, what ever which way they wish to guide us, we have the info in the memory that they can't delete oooops!!! perhaps they can lol!!

Any here who have been following Barry since day one will know what i mean when i say his work will not be lost!:zip:
Oh those avatars the one with the grey holding the red card could it be his train ticket which is mentioned by the watchers. well barry has been dumped at some station or other only hope he can get home.:mad3:

[gscraig]

There should be some trackability by those whom maintain this site.
It is extremely odd if indeed Kerry and Bill may not know, but yet could find out. Then again on the opposite end of the spectrum, as I paraphrase the quote "they would not concern themselves over it even if they knew".

Why is that?
Why haven't Barry been interviewed?

Who or what criteria drives who gets interviewed?
I know they take "requests", but is there a list we can reference for those members of this forum and who they would like to see interviewed, compared to whom actually was? That way we can see if Bill and Kerry are truly putting our money (donations, subscriptions) where their mouth is.


I encourage all of you to pay close attention to who's doing what, who's not, who's getting interviewed, who isn't, and what do they have to offer informationally. TRANSPARENCY is lacking on many of these websites that are claiming to be fighting for it...on your behalf.

[Karen]

1) There should be some trackability by those whom maintain this site.
2) It is extremely odd if indeed Kerry and Bill may not know, but yet could find out. 3) Then again on the opposite end of the spectrum, as I paraphrase the quote "they would not concern themselves over it even if they knew".

4) Why is that?
Why haven't Barry been interviewed?

5) Who or what criteria drives who gets interviewed?
6) I know they take "requests", but is there a list we can reference for those members of this forum and who they would like to see interviewed, compared to whom actually was? 7) That way we can see if Bill and Kerry are truly putting our money (donations, subscriptions) where their mouth is.


I encourage all of you to pay close attention to who's doing what, who's not, who's getting interviewed, who isn't, and what do they have to offer informationally.
8) TRANSPARENCY is lacking on many of these websites that are claiming to be fighting for it...on your behalf.

I see 8 questions or issues to address. I'll do as much as I have time for, when I have the time, plus look up some supporting links.

1) I can see that THE WATCHER (TW) deleted the threads himself as he was ordered to do by those who control him. (Is that the right term?) As he stated in post #6 of this thread.

2) I doubt Bill and Kerry know about this. The moderators, who are the ones that almost 100% run the forum now, just found out about it.

3) What control do Bill and Kerry have over those who control TW?

4) I don't know the relationship between Bill and Kerry and THE WATCHER. There must be something there as TW was set up with his own subforum, and when certain issues arose, he was defended, and Kerry made him moderator of his subforum, so that he would have control over the content.

5) Bill and Kerry have explained this numerous times. There is no agenda, they just go with the flow and with their intuition. They had no idea of the whirlwind they would be swept up in.

6) There is no list that I know of. I heard it said one time, on their radio show if I remember correctly, they did not interview someone because they did not totally believe the story - or have all the information they needed to make that decision - might have been Billy Meier. They are so busy now, they are running as fast as they can 24/7.

7) They are doing exactly what they set out to do and no one is controlling them.

8) "Transparency" is their favorite word - what does Bill say -- something like - no one is more transparent than Kerry and I.

[olgraybear]

Do we find a train station and wait for the train?

Or do we buy ticket to go in a certain direction?

Thanks,,,,

[no caste]

Let me help you out with our memory a bit. ROFL.

Here, let me transcribe it :naughty: :thumb_yello:

BLACK BOX: To be worn at all times in & around base & when travelling to & from base (computer chip activates device when within X number of miles of base). This 'stabilises.' Hence the voice being told that I would be 'disrupted-disabled' if I approached closer than 10 miles to AL/499, because not having my 'black box' anymore, the generators would disable me within that distance. Anyone who is microchipped would suffer various stages of disablement within the area if not 'stabilised' by this device.

So, the internal microchip(s) - which also transmits RF voice com to skull (specific location in head, because you see diplomats all twitchy the same way) (?) - interfaces with the OFF black box. The ON black box neutralizes the radio wave frequencies; it's all standard issue. It works as a geo fence, security parameter.

The microchip is also a receiver, capable of paralysis-disablement (and/or unconsciousness?). The 'generator' is a transmission tower at AL/499 at base, that has adjustable amplitude or phase modulation, or some way to crank it up. Personnel are likely assigned unit numbers, to monitor them in the facility, i.e. locations etc via RF signals.

It's my best guess. This sounds terrible, by the way.

[Kari Lynn]

uh.... it's back. The thread is back guys. Ooookaayyyy.
I'm not the only one that can see it, am I?

[TheObserver]

I see it Kari, it's a closed thread now, but it's there for the looking.

[Karen]

I see 8 questions or issues to address. I'll do as much as I have time for, when I have the time, plus look up some supporting links.

Of course as explained earlier neither Bill nor Kerry nor the moderators had anything to do with the deletion of TW threads. TW deleted the threads as he was ordered to do, and as he explained in post #6.

Bill and Kerry, their ethics, the donations to them, etc. that became a topic of discussion in this thread seems a bit off topic - and I do not want to derail this thread so I will only post a 2 segments of this piece by Bill that was written in response to an attack piece posted at http://rense.com. It answers some of the concerns raised in post #22. And more.


http://projectcamelot.org/open_letter_to_jeff_rense.html

As we've explained many times, on radio, on video, and in writing, the idea of Project Camelot came soon after Kerry and I had met when we were visiting Tintagel, in Cornwall, England, in April 2006. Tintagel is believed by many to be a strong candidate for King Arthur's Camelot, and having visited the place we could see why. Driving back to London, where Kerry was due to fly home after her four-day visit on the way back from Egypt, we came to the idea to start what is now Project Camelot - and had the entire thing visualized between us within minutes.

We have no handlers. We have no paymasters (alas!). No-one tells us what to do. We report to nobody. Nothing we have ever done has been 'staged' or in any way duplicitous. There are no 'plots'. There is no 'agenda'. Very often we have no fixed idea ourselves what we're going to do until pretty close to any particular event or meeting.

We are exactly who we say we are. If there's something about us you don't know, then just ask. We're visible, and accessible, and operate under our real names, with real photographs on real video. We're easy to find. Come up to us at any conference and ask us any question. Thousands of people have.

We give people as much time as we can. We do all this deliberately. We do not write snide articles under the protection of anonymity. We state our views clearly and openly. We protect OTHERS - but that's what we've always promised to do. Followers of what we do cannot expect us to reveal the names and addresses of everyone who reveals sensitive information to us. To criticize us for protecting whistleblowers is naive in the extreme.

Anyone who has met us in person knows who we are. It could hardly be more obvious. We do not try to sell anything, and ALL our work is available for free.

We have very little money: I live supported by the generosity of friends, and Kerry usually [quite literally] does not know how she is going to pay her next month's rent.

All our friends know this. And our enemies should, because it's easy to check. We decided long ago that we'd not bother to hide anything, as anyone with real resources would easily be able to find it all out anyway."

And Kerry herself has come under fire. Here's my response. Read this carefully.

Kerry Cassidy is one of the bravest people I have ever met. She has more integrity in her little finger than most people have in their whole being. In all the time I've known her - and all the time I've spent with her (which is considerable: despite not being a couple, we always share hotel rooms, and have traveled for thousands of miles and for months out of every year) -

- I have never, EVER, known her to lie or deceive in any way. I do not believe the thought ever enters her head. This is an extraordinarily rare and valuable quality. Name me another person, man or woman, who meets that test.

- I've never, ever, known her to deliberately hurt another person. Rather the opposite: she forgives and always seeks to understand those who I sometimes myself privately write off in my own moments of impatience and frustration.

- She has the kind of courage that any General would be proud of - and which many men lack. She is fearless and has no concerns whatsoever for her own safety or about others' opinions of her. She is ALWAYS trying to do the right thing. She and I have both made mistakes and errors of judgment - but her intentions are honorable every time.

She is loyal, and determined, and committed to the highest good, and I'm proud to work with her. She has explained her interview style, which is seamless with her personality, and rightly does not apologize for who she is. (One of our closest friends, Bob Dean - you may remember that some air-heads criticized Kerry for giving him a 'hard time' on camera - loves her to pieces and is one of our staunchest allies. Go figure.)

Between us, we make up an extremely strong team. We complement one another extraordinarily well. And we are far more than "interviewers" or "journalists". It's not just our job to ask questions and keep dutifully quiet.

We've been swimming in this material publicly, 24/7, for over three years, literally night and day. Before that, we were students and private researchers for decades, and have both had our own experiences. (See this interview of ourselves by Arjan Bos. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DqS7W4UUwE) You may like it. You'll learn quite a lot about us and what makes us tick.)

Here is their email contact: "Kerry and Bill at Camelot" <support@projectcamelot.org>, "Kerry Cassidy" <kerry@projectavalon.net>, "Bill Ryan" <bill@projectavalon.net>.

[enemyofNWO]

I see 8 questions or issues to address. I'll do as much as I have time for, when I have the time, plus look up some supporting links.

1) I can see that THE WATCHER (TW) deleted the threads himself as he was ordered to do by those who control him. (Is that the right term?) As he stated in post #6 of this thread.

2) I doubt Bill and Kerry know about this. The moderators, who are the ones that almost 100% run the forum now, just found out about it.

3) What control do Bill and Kerry have over those who control TW?


Karen and all .

I have a link to the Watcher thread that Works . I have had it as a book mark since the beginning . It worked today it still there only it does not show up . Here it is if somebody wants to save it .
I will try to save it page by page .
Cheers

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4106

[gscraig]

Karen,

I will pm you most of my response to prevent too much "off topic" posting in this area. However, I will indeed respond with some perspectives openly via this thread. Beginning with what you have provided, which does not suffice specifically in terms of what I'm pointing out.

1) Yes, I've read Bill's letters, Kerry's responses, etc. Many of us including myself on this site, to some degree have an appreciation and/or respect for what they do, but they are not flawless and may come under fire regardless of their principles. That is called "discernment", rather it is right or wrong. You, Bill, Kerry, and all Moderators should never defend that right of expression by those whom support this cause. Yes, you can suggest as Kerry has for those whom expressed not liking her interviewing style to go somewhere else (not specifically quoted). Poorly handled, but point taken. There a many who sacrifice and have principles just as they do, but you don't hear about it and they don't write letters to be sure it's understood. You would be surprised by the number of the most irrelevant persons on this forum, could easily be the ones whom know more than the average Joe regarding what's going on.

2) You see, those whom "choose" to pay on this site and donate should have some level of say...Similar to one who owns a percentage of stock in a company. Transparecy is showing people what they are paying for and donating to, if something is sensitive in nature, there are ways around not making it completely exposed. I can see and appreciate what Bill and Kerry do that other sites don't, but there remains a lack of transparency. Be a 100%pure, not 75%.

3) Briefly regarding the interviews. Basically, we are seeing a recycling of information and anything that is "new information" we hear from the interviewees "I rather not discuss". That, I can get from the same government, that they are looking to retrieve the entirety of truth, no? Perhaps "they" would be better served keeping quiet or don't interview those whom are only willing to tell us what we've heard times over. The game has changed, change with it.

I will pm you with more specifics.

[Luminari]

This picture sums up the Watcher threads;
Alot of excuses and moaning but no actual substance.
Barry I have patiently and respectfully read your threads.. where's the beef man?
I sincerely wish you health and happiness, and hope one day to learn something new from you.

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/bp-carrot-stick.jpg

[THEWATCHER]

This picture sums up the Watcher threads;
Alot of excuses and moaning but no actual substance.
Barry I have patiently and respectfully read your threads.. where's the beef man?
I sincerely wish you health and happiness, and hope one day to learn something new from you.

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/bp-carrot-stick.jpg
Suggest politely even though my patience wears very thin, try watching the Bases vids IN FULL, try reading The Voice Files, all 600+pages and following what has been given you people over past 5 years!! To be honest I do not need further hassle from anyone:wall:

[THEWATCHER]

What do you people expect or want? me drag a crashed craft or semi conscious OPI here? FFS, yes I AM angry

[THEWATCHER]

BTW, when you see some 'meat' from Peterson, Deagle, Deacon, Burisch, Wilcock, Delicardo etc etc LET ME KNOW OK?

[Karen]

Just try to think about the people who appreciate what you have shared. You can never please all the people all the time, so I don't even try! I do what comes from my heart and my integrity. Stop by lounge or the joke thread, relax or have laugh - or both. Whatever it takes ... just let it go ... definitely not worth getting the blood pressure up.

[orthodoxymoron]

Just stick to facts, theories, ideas, etc...and don't make it personal or retentive. I know this is hard to do. I really think we are in a spiritual war...and that we are dealing with difficult and upsetting subjects and information. We need to be hyper-responsible with all of the new information and ideas we are being bombarded with. Again...this is hard to do. But if we can't do it...think of what the general public will do when they really start being exposed to all of this. How we conduct ourselves may determine disclosure strategies. If we get it right...people with sensitive information may be motivated to release more and more...because they know we can handle the truth. I tend to think that a lot of eyes are watching...human and otherwise. Proceed wisely. Now if I could only practice what I preach...

[Thunderbird]

hi,
i wrote a very long private message to you a number of months ago and was told that you would respond.

I was wondering if you ever got it and had any insight for me?

it was very personal and stuff that i never shared with anyone before.

I was hoping you might have something to share with me about that.
-X

[THEWATCHER]

hi,
i wrote a very long private message to you a number of months ago and was told that you would respond.

I was wondering if you ever got it and had any insight for me?

it was very personal and stuff that i never shared with anyone before.

I was hoping you might have something to share with me about that.
-X

Hi there Thunderbird, yes I do recall that PM, and although it was a later response, I did actually send a full response to you, remember I mentioned other 'elder gentlemen in same situation'? etc etc etc. A full reply that should have reached you. I will check see if I still have any sent PMs in my sent box.

[Thunderbird]

i PM'ed you the last message i received from you....just in case

[olgraybear]

These are some of the areas I will be posting on and will form my
final set of disclosures, these I shall post at the Manticore forum
as well................


ULTIMATE/FINAL DISCLOSURE TOPICS THE WATCHER 2009

Watch the new breed of whistleblowers, bring in the 'experts'
Stargate technologies.......Iran/Iraq
Stagecraft and use of PLFs in false flags
Dugway Proving ground
OPI controls, the good and not so good
Hybrids, those working with benign ETI
The 5 and DNA linked artefacts, planet shields and destroyers
Scaremongering re vaccines
5992nd Psi-Ops Unit and Operation 'Mountain Haze'
The public indoctrination program
Behind the official face of Pine Gap
Busting the myths, Thomas Castello re Dulce
Busting the myths, Majestic
Opening the doors on UK/US/Canada run Genetics program
Cold war ARV (advanced remote viewing) from Peasemore and linked
facilities
Past/Future ARV from Peasemore facility
Instances of remote influencing experienced
ETI crash retrievals carried out by 5992nd Unit
NSA/CIA/MI5/MOSSAD hit squads
MILABs from the inside
The secret history of THE VOICE

Barry

Hi Barry,

would this still be the direction or is your influences taking it in a totaly
new/different direction?

Be well

[Luminari]

Suggest politely even though my patience wears very thin, try watching the Bases vids IN FULL, try reading The Voice Files, all 600+pages and following what has been given you people over past 5 years!! To be honest I do not need further hassle from anyone:wall:

Thanks WATCHER I will follow up on your advice.

Also keen to hear from E the Extraterrestrial.

Forgive my impatience but it was not without reason.

All aboard the disclosure train.

[THEWATCHER]

Thanks WATCHER I will follow up on your advice.

Also keen to hear from E the Extraterrestrial.

Forgive my impatience but it was not without reason.

All aboard the disclosure train.

Its ok, no problem, my training, my programming gets me a little heated at times, I have been messed with by so many damn alphabets that I'm getting dizzy. The return of the old thread was down squarely to politics, UK won this time, for now.

[THEWATCHER]

These are some of the areas I will be posting on and will form my
final set of disclosures, these I shall post at the Manticore forum
as well................

ULTIMATE/FINAL DISCLOSURE TOPICS THE WATCHER 2009

Watch the new breed of whistleblowers, bring in the 'experts'
Stargate technologies.......Iran/Iraq
Stagecraft and use of PLFs in false flags
Dugway Proving ground
OPI controls, the good and not so good
Hybrids, those working with benign ETI
The 5 and DNA linked artefacts, planet shields and destroyers
Scaremongering re vaccines
5992nd Psi-Ops Unit and Operation 'Mountain Haze'
The public indoctrination program
Behind the official face of Pine Gap
Busting the myths, Thomas Castello re Dulce
Busting the myths, Majestic
Opening the doors on UK/US/Canada run Genetics program
Cold war ARV (advanced remote viewing) from Peasemore and linked
facilities
Past/Future ARV from Peasemore facility
Instances of remote influencing experienced
ETI crash retrievals carried out by 5992nd Unit
NSA/CIA/MI5/MOSSAD hit squads
MILABs from the inside
The secret history of THE VOICE

Hi Barry,

would this still be the direction or is your influences taking it in a totaly
new/different direction?

Be well

Hi Mike, it was due to a number of those topics that got the thread pulled, going against what 'they' want. At this moment I'm unsure as to new direction, awaiting word:original:

[THEWATCHER]

i PM'ed you the last message i received from you....just in case

Thanks Thunderbird, received and replied:original:

[THEWATCHER]

Just stick to facts, theories, ideas, etc...and don't make it personal or retentive. I know this is hard to do. I really think we are in a spiritual war...and that we are dealing with difficult and upsetting subjects and information. We need to be hyper-responsible with all of the new information and ideas we are being bombarded with. Again...this is hard to do. But if we can't do it...think of what the general public will do when they really start being exposed to all of this. How we conduct ourselves may determine disclosure strategies. If we get it right...people with sensitive information may be motivated to release more and more...because they know we can handle the truth. I tend to think that a lot of eyes are watching...human and otherwise. Proceed wisely. Now if I could only practice what I preach...
I will do my best, we are in a war for certain, but a war on many fronts and many levels. Accountability is one reason why full open disclosure can never happen, a diluted and controlled disclosure is on the cards, I do not believe in that hence shut down!!

[THEWATCHER]

Just try to think about the people who appreciate what you have shared. You can never please all the people all the time, so I don't even try! I do what comes from my heart and my integrity. Stop by lounge or the joke thread, relax or have laugh - or both. Whatever it takes ... just let it go ... definitely not worth getting the blood pressure up.

Thankyou Karen, I will take your kind advice, perhaps I'll stop by the lounge sometime:welcomeani:

[olgraybear]

This picture sums up the Watcher threads;
Alot of excuses and moaning but no actual substance.
Barry I have patiently and respectfully read your threads.. where's the beef man?
I sincerely wish you health and happiness, and hope one day to learn something new from you.

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/bp-carrot-stick.jpg


The way I see it, if you don't like or appreciate the progress of this thread
why come hear and just say sarcasm. I see why Barry gets upset with
these attacks. Your not the first, but why do you have to at all?
Stop thinking of yourself and go somewhere else.
How about we look at it as a picture of you, without the carrot ?

[Barcarolle]

Exactly Oldgraybear, unfortunately some on this site feel its their right to express their own opinions, they feel they are the center of the universe and everything revolves around them, the worst part avalon loses another valuable source of information due to ignorance and selfishness.

Very Few left in avalon actually provide valuable pieces of the puzzle whom are forced to no longer to share information as they are harassed by such people who cannot get out of their own ego and personal beliefs.

Namaste

[TheObserver]

(suppresses opinion) :zip:

[Luminari]

Oldgraybear, hilarious...

Barry I've dedicated two songs and several rounds of Guinness to you in the Lounge. Once again sorry to rattle your cage in that way and thanks for giving me some direction regarding your information. Warmest regards.

[SWIFT]

Hi Barry,
Hope your well and ignore thoses:sleep_1: who have not experinced the unkown:wall:.
Cheers
SWIFT:mfr_lol:

[THEWATCHER]

Oldgraybear, hilarious...

Barry I've dedicated two songs and several rounds of Guinness to you in the Lounge. Once again sorry to rattle your cage in that way and thanks for giving me some direction regarding your information. Warmest regards.

CHEERS:original: ITS OK, no problem, keeps me on my feet i guess

[DoctorWho]

Since you are not sure what direction to tell your side of things, why not take up stand up comedy? You can get away with more. ;)
Bill "the Doctor"

[happyhollergal]

I've been watching The Watcher for over a year now, and even though I never comment, the information is thought provoking, and causes me to research the different material that comes to light. Barry, I really do appreciate your contributions and those of many others. You never know when you drop a seed how large it can grow. Keep up the good work mate.

[THEWATCHER]

Since you are not sure what direction to tell your side of things, why not take up stand up comedy? You can get away with more. ;)
Bill "the Doctor"

Hmm, frowning, not sure how I should take that comment:lol3:

[THEWATCHER]

I've been watching The Watcher for over a year now, and even though I never comment, the information is thought provoking, and causes me to research the different material that comes to light. Barry, I really do appreciate your contributions and those of many others. You never know when you drop a seed how large it can grow. Keep up the good work mate.

Thankyou, appreciate those words:original:

[Fredkc]

Accountability is one reason why full open disclosure can never happenMy feelings exactly.

If even 1/4 of all the cr@p people say these inhuman folk have done is true, then disclosure will be right after a Santa Claus vs. Easter Bunny cage match wrestling event... and probably just as genuine.

[Kari Lynn]

As long as there are active deep black programs, with high ranking individuals in command of such programs, there will never be disclosure. The best we can hope for is what they have already given us, which is papers of stuff that is 60 yrs old, with half the page or more blacked out with permenent marker, so you can't really make heads or tails of what it's about.
There will always be black projects of National Security, now and in the future, and not even the government, let alone the shadow government will allow that information out, or anything even remotely connected with such programs. ei. such as items, that relate to the technologies we now use. Because if they let loose that we have UFO's in our possession, and let the information of those UFO's become public domain, then other countries can study that information, and aquire the same technologies that they're trying to keep deep black.
So, all is connected in a round about way.
So it's not really a battle as to whether our civilian citizens are ready for such disclosure, it's a decision as to whether those in control feel others could gleen technology from what they've left or thrown away.
The military has ALWAYS been that way. Do not throw ANYTHING away. It all must be rendered completely unuseful to others. Which means, no lab studies can be rendered from what is left, no marks, nothing.
Anyone involved in deep black Intell. would know what I mean, when I say that even pencils, and pads of paper that have previously been written on, are burned and disposed of, so that what was written on the sheets previously can not be discovered by lab work on the pad. Even if only one sheet of paper was taken from the pad, the entire pad is destroyed beyond the ability to gleen any information from it.

[olgraybear]

As long as there are active deep black programs, with high ranking individuals in command of such programs, there will never be disclosure. The best we can hope for is what they have already given us, which is papers of stuff that is 60 yrs old, with half the page or more blacked out with permenent marker, so you can't really make heads or tails of what it's about.
There will always be black projects of National Security, now and in the future, and not even the government, let alone the shadow government will allow that information out, or anything even remotely connected with such programs. ei. such as items, that relate to the technologies we now use. Because if they let loose that we have UFO's in our possession, and let the information of those UFO's become public domain, then other countries can study that information, and aquire the same technologies that they're trying to keep deep black.
So, all is connected in a round about way.
So it's not really a battle as to whether our civilian citizens are ready for such disclosure, it's a decision as to whether those in control feel others could gleen technology from what they've left or thrown away.
The military has ALWAYS been that way. Do not throw ANYTHING away. It all must be rendered completely unuseful to others. Which means, no lab studies can be rendered from what is left, no marks, nothing.
Anyone involved in deep black Intell. would know what I mean, when I say that even pencils, and pads of paper that have previously been written on, are burned and disposed of, so that what was written on the sheets previously can not be discovered by lab work on the pad. Even if only one sheet of paper was taken from the pad, the entire pad is destroyed beyond the ability to gleen any information from it.



Hi Kary Lynn,,
I have to say,, I really agree with what you say here..
But, I think that there is another line to this statement that may be
overlooked and that is where we get someone that has actually documentation and photographs that can remain anonymous to
release the documentation/evidence of these things that has gone
on and hidden for entirely too long without fear to the security of
that person, their friends, family, associates would be completely safe..
Or if there could be a web as tightly controlled as the governments
from the concerned citizens or perhaps a disgruntled operative
that could bring it down from the inside

[Kari Lynn]

Oh certainly, and this has happened numerous times that persons have come forward with information they had.
It's like a foot ball game really. Someone grabs the ball and runs with it. Now if no one is trying to knock his bum to the ground, he doesn't have the real ball!
People used to be killed for the information they tried to leak. Now, with new technologies, internet, and the quick exchange of information. To kill someone with that sort of information would be making a martar of them, making their information that much more believable.
So mostly I see those informants being discredited. Their character challenged. Forums disrupted, and lots of psychological head games played to try and get people to steer away from the informant.
I've seen few times where disinformation agents have gotten on a forum, to try and distill an informant as a hoax.
Having seen it a few times over 5 years now, I can pick it up pretty quickly. I could name former names, but user names change quickly, so it doesn't matter. All the user names I would list, could very well likely be, one single agent. lol.
I have to grin when I see it happen now. Just makes me believe the informant that much more. lol. Plus every so often, I like watching the blackerd get his bum whipped by the white hats! Hooya! lol And as long as our guys don't get their hands tied. As far as I know, they've bested them every time! lol. Course, they probably aren't going to brag about the times they've lost. lol.
I miss the 8 guys. And hey! You said you'd buy dinner! Just because the thread is gone, doesn't mean I've forgotten! Plus, I still have it saved to my computer! Na-na! :tongue2:

[olgraybear]

Oh certainly, and this has happened numerous times that persons have come forward with information they had.
It's like a foot ball game really. Someone grabs the ball and runs with it. Now if no one is trying to knock his bum to the ground, he doesn't have the real ball!
People used to be killed for the information they tried to leak. Now, with new technologies, internet, and the quick exchange of information. To kill someone with that sort of information would be making a martar of them, making their information that much more believable.
So mostly I see those informants being discredited. Their character challenged. Forums disrupted, and lots of psychological head games played to try and get people to steer away from the informant.
I've seen few times where disinformation agents have gotten on a forum, to try and distill an informant as a hoax.
Having seen it a few times over 5 years now, I can pick it up pretty quickly. I could name former names, but user names change quickly, so it doesn't matter. All the user names I would list, could very well likely be, one single agent. lol.
I have to grin when I see it happen now. Just makes me believe the informant that much more. lol. Plus every so often, I like watching the blackerd get his bum whipped by the white hats! Hooya! lol And as long as our guys don't get their hands tied. As far as I know, they've bested them every time! lol. Course, they probably aren't going to brag about the times they've lost. lol.
I miss the 8 guys. And hey! You said you'd buy dinner! Just because the thread is gone, doesn't mean I've forgotten! Plus, I still have it saved to my computer! Na-na! :tongue2:



I enjoy you're perspective and use of words. Please keep it up :lmao:

[Kari Lynn]

What?
http://www.animationgold.com/blink_angel.gif

Did I forget to plea the 5th? :naughty: :das:

(oops, I seem to have misplaced my halo. Has anyone seen it?)

[Kari Lynn]

Okay, getting serious.
Wondered what each person wants, or expects from disclosure?
How will it change people's lives?

Myself, I want to understand myself better. And feel that certain disclosures will help me to fill in the gaps in my life.

[Fredkc]

Kari Lynn;

Well first of all, I can't wait to see every single "news reader" who has ever chuckled while doing a UFO story, suddenly sitting about an inch taller in their chair, because they just put "something smelly" between themselves, and their underwear. :D

Also, I can't wait to hear how we are going to "bring them into line" by making them both oil and cash dependent on the current power structure. ;)

Then,
Plans for a safe, inexpensive to build and maintain ZP Energy source, which any family can take with them to live where and how they please, would be a nice present. (ZP = Zero Point, or some such device)

A thorough explanation of what it is THEY need, that brought them here.

Um.... Lemme think on it some more, and I'll get back to you.

Fred

PS: Oh yeah! Was it really them messin' with my noggin back in the late 70's?

Still thinkin.... Me.

[THEWATCHER]

Some random bits of data coming soon, till I know what damn direction I am supposed to take. One I'd like to take is head for a nice quiet sandy beach in the warm sun, watching the waves, then the sunsets, with my fav whisky to hand.

[Jonah]

Amen brother.... noone deserves it more than you chaps....

hows about I have one for ya!:thumb_yello:

[Kari Lynn]

I'll join y'all there! Someone light the bon fire. Throw some clams on.
YouTube- Zac Brown Band- Toes with lyrics

[THEWATCHER]

Amen brother.... noone deserves it more than you chaps....

hows about I have one for ya!:thumb_yello:



Cheers:original:

[Fredkc]

Some random bits of data coming soon, till I know what damn direction I am supposed to take. Sentences like this are always confusing for me. Perhaps, you too?

One I'd like to take is head for a nice quiet sandy beach in the warm sun, watching the waves, then the sunsets, with my fav whisky to hand.This one is much easier, though
Beach: Laguna Beach, California
Whisky: Glenfiddich

Fred

[THEWATCHER]

Sounds just right to me Fred. I will hopefully have clearer idea of direction after this weekend, after speaking with group and going thru data etc.

[Humble Janitor]

As long as there are active deep black programs, with high ranking individuals in command of such programs, there will never be disclosure. The best we can hope for is what they have already given us, which is papers of stuff that is 60 yrs old, with half the page or more blacked out with permenent marker, so you can't really make heads or tails of what it's about.

I disagree. We can force that hand but it depends on those who are awake and their actions in bringing it about. NOTHING is ever impossible in this universe.

[Kari Lynn]

I disagree. We can force that hand but it depends on those who are awake and their actions in bringing it about. NOTHING is ever impossible in this universe.
Oops, perhaps I should clarify my statement.
As long as there are active black ops, with high ranking officials in charge, (that could possibly be held legal and even criminally liable) They will not WILLINGLY agree to disclosure.
That said, yes we can continue on as before, trying to force their hand into disclosure, digging out information where ever we find it, but it will be the same as now also, in that there will be disinformation, discreditation, and threats to health and welfare of individuals.

[Humble Janitor]

But in the end, they will lose.

There is just no way that the ones withholding this information will be able to continue such a ruse.

[no caste]

This one is much easier, though
Beach: Laguna Beach, California
Whisky: Glenfiddich

Fred

Easy!?? :nono: This is what I see with 'Laguna Beach' -

- This MK Ultra victim from California claims to have been taught by the Mothers of Darkness in Belgium.
http://rosaleen-thewhistler.blogspot.com/2009/11/arizona-wilder-mothers-of-darkness-in.html

- 3 September 2009
• Click here for a short video interview done by Kerry Cassidy with Dr Len Horowitz, when he spoke with Dr Masaru Emoto at the Live H2O event at Laguna Beach in June.
http://www.projectavalon.org/

Glenfiddich: Scottish Freemasonry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Rite

It's easy for cryptic to be wa-a-a-a-y off base, like I probably am! Can you elaborate, Fred?

[Ross H]

But in the end, they will lose.

There is just no way that the ones withholding this information will be able to continue such a ruse.



oooh yeah!:thumb_yello:

[olgraybear]

On Dec. 02- Tru Tv channel begins a new series featuring Jesse Ventura,
the former Govonor of Michigan titled Conspriracy Theory.
He claims to reveal what the government is concealinng that he has witnessed.

www.trutv.com

[THEWATCHER]

Strange site, could be interesting, what did he witness I wonder?

[THEWATCHER]

Camelot front page snippet..................

Many people have asked us for our current view of the information provided to David Wilcock and ourselves in June by Dr Pete Peterson that "time had been booked with the networks" for an announcement about Disclosure by Obama tomorrow - 27 November.

We're not holding our breath: there's no immediate sign of this, and we doubt that this will happen. Dr Peterson himself stated as an immediate caveat that it was just a plan, and that plans often change.

Of course Pete Peterson is going to cover his ass with a caveat now, he knew all along it was a fairytale, too many with big impressive names/credentials think they can walk their backside into the arena and proclaim all manner of sheer bloody nonsense and expect to be listened to:wall:

Come December 21st 2012 and NOTHING untoward has occurred I'd like to personally thump every single doom and gloomer for unnecessary **** stirring and panic mongering

[THE eXchanger]

Earth shifted, into a 'new' timeline
back on 9/9/2007 = 9/9/9
(yet, many people were saying 9-9-2009=9/9/11 - was a 9/9/9
this was clearly NOT the truth)

i have to agree with you, Barry,
personally, i do NOT think, a lot of them,
know their asses, from the holes,
they are trying to put people into -
with all the scary stuff, about 2012

a lot of people do NOT even know
that the sun changes its magnetics,
every 11 years ~ and, when it does,
do we notice it ???

ahh, it all boils down,
to what is really important

~ it iS our stuffing, NOT our stuff
that matterS

THANKS for STUFFING us FULL of GOOD STUFF

happy thanks giving - and, merry everything to you

love/susan
the eXchanger

[THEWATCHER]

Thankyou Susan, a very happy Thanksgiving Day to you my dear

[enemyofNWO]

Camelot front page snippet..................

Many people have asked us for our current view of the information provided to David Wilcock and ourselves in June by Dr Pete Peterson that "time had been booked with the networks" for an announcement about Disclosure by Obama tomorrow - 27 November.

We're not holding our breath: there's no immediate sign of this, and we doubt that this will happen. Dr Peterson himself stated as an immediate caveat that it was just a plan, and that plans often change.

Of course Pete Peterson is going to cover his ass with a caveat now, he knew all along it was a fairytale, too many with big impressive names/credentials think they can walk their backside into the arena and proclaim all manner of sheer bloody nonsense and expect to be listened to:wall:

Come December 21st 2012 and NOTHING untoward has occurred I'd like to personally thump every single doom and gloomer for unnecessary **** stirring and panic mongering


Many thanks Barry for clearing up this stuff . The confusion generated by certain people like PP is just monumental . Sometimes it is very hard to discern the BS from the truth .
Cheers

[THEWATCHER]

Interesting news from Bulgaria.............

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/bulgaria/6650677/Aliens-already-exist-on-earth-Bulgarian-scientists-claim.html

[Gnosis5]

Deceit always comes home to roost. For example when I saw that Reptilian's "be calm" machine get turned on him -- it was quite comical to see his fiery rage sputter out. Well, everybody got a bit of "love" that day :-)


YouTube- Sara Bareilles - Love Song

[THEWATCHER]

Totally confused:smoke:

[Fredkc]

Totally confused:smoke:

Barry;
Stop that!
I've tried it before, It doesn't help.

Just a handy tip ;)
Fred

[THEWATCHER]

LOL worth a try though eh? LOL

[Luminari]

Interesting news from Bulgaria.............

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/bulgaria/6650677/Aliens-already-exist-on-earth-Bulgarian-scientists-claim.html

Great news.. this keeps getting forced from every angle imaginable eventually the lid going to come off.. I think we are near critical mass as far as public awareness.

Do you think demonic news controllers like Rupert Murdoch will ever come around? He really could achieve alot if he put all his media interests to work on this issue.
He owes the rest of us on the planet big time for getting Bush reelected.. His karma must be like a tsunami. Whats it gonna be Rupert? Do you have the balls to do something this important?? Its not too late for you to help..
Use your power to heal humanity and the earth. TV has been weaponised for too long, we don't want to be distracted, we want to be educated and enlightened. Stop the fear and ridicule campaign on the ET issue. Show some maturity and integrity.

Lets hope we see Dr Greer's cooperative CE-5 initiative with the major G8 nation he keeps taking about manifest publically ASAP.

Obama is not going to help that much seems clear now.. warmongering and drugdealing in Afghanistan seems more important. We were naive to think an american president could lead the way on such a global issue.

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/bghhff.jpg

NO

[Gnosis5]

Great news.. this keeps getting forced from every angle imaginable eventually the lid going to come off.. I think we are near critical mass as far as public awareness.

Do you think demonic news controllers like Rupert Murdoch will ever come around? He really could achieve alot if he put all his media interests to work on this issue.
He owes the rest of us on the planet big time for getting Bush reelected.. His karma must be like a tsunami. Whats it gonna be Rupert? Do you have the balls to do something this important?? Its not too late for you to help..
Use your power to heal humanity and the earth. TV has been weaponised for too long, we don't want to be distracted, we want to be educated and enlightened. Stop the fear and ridicule campaign on the ET issue. Show some maturity and integrity.

Lets hope we see Dr Greer's cooperative CE-5 initiative with the major G8 nation he keeps taking about manifest publically ASAP.

Obama is not going to help that much seems clear now.. warmongering and drugdealing in Afghanistan seems more important. We were naive to think an american president could lead the way on such a global issue.

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/bghhff.jpg

NO


The way our ancestors treated the Norh-Central-South American Indians as the "friendly ETs" well, until we clear up that Karmic episode in our history I really don't want anyone coming here and offering me cool trinkets. I'll go chill out for awhile in some misty forest.

Indians didn't know what hit them when they tasted white sugar and grain alcohol and wrapped themselves in disease-laden blankets and signed incomprehensible white pieces of paper with nifty looking quill pens. The "Gee Whiz" factor was part of the carrot that suckered them in.

ETs please stay home until we get our planet sorted out, thank you.

[THEWATCHER]

Its going to be left to those 500+ individuals globally to get together and disclose to the Worlds media at prime time.

[Kari Lynn]

So does that mean it's going to be a scenario like perhaps our TOP SECRET intrastelar crafts, (looking very much like UFO's) landing over top of our cities, while our airforce/NASA men and women disembark?
Surely their not going to leave it for a one time, spill all, shock and aw, creating panic in the streets?

[THEWATCHER]

Arrange for all us 500+ Disclosure Project Witnesses to appear in front of major News cameras across the Globe at same time, see the fun start then....

[eleni]

They don't want chaos and what little *control* they still have to slip through their ever increasing slippery hands.

Best approach is grass roots now with everything. Whistleblowers- let it rip.

[THEWATCHER]

Thats what I think too, even being warned off certain areas I will continue with what I can.

Interesting aside..........ABC have put "Flash Forward" on hold and now they have done the same with "V....Visitors", after just 4 episodes its on the back burner till March 2010. Methinks ABC.com should get a hefty kick up the jacksie!!

[THEWATCHER]

On the front page of Camelot we have a snippet re Miriam Delicado asking for financial assistance for her and a partner to travel to Columbia.....all very well but this seems wrong to me somehow. I paid my own expenses whilst researching/investigating Ufo's as a civilian, globally, I managed to fund myself by working 24/7 month in month out. This kind of thing really bugs me and asking true hearted people to continue to put their hands in the pockets to finance such 'trips' really pees me off. Would anyone finance me a trip to USA? (not that I would accept anyways)

[no caste]

On the front page of Camelot we have a snippet re Miriam Delicado asking for financial assistance for her and a partner to travel to Columbia.

It also struck me as odd. Oh well.

PS Watcher, I am enjoying the switch-ups of your avatars. :thumb_yello: The bat one was great.

[THEWATCHER]

The Watcher signing off, hoping to be back sometime in the New Year. For now wishing each and every one of you a very Merry Xmas and a safe and happy New Year

[olgraybear]

The Watcher signing off, hoping to be back sometime in the New Year. For now wishing each and every one of you a very Merry Xmas and a safe and happy New Year

May you too have a merry Christmas and a happy and safe new year,,, take care...

[olgraybear]

News released from BBC News that they will no longer recieve or look for
UFO's or aliens till further evidence is available. They are dropping the
subject.....


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4981720.stm

[no caste]

News released from BBC News that they will no longer recieve or look for UFO's or aliens till further evidence is available. They are dropping the subject.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4981720.stm

Well. I think the BBC article is posted elsewhere on the forum too. However, with what S. Swerdlow said about marine activity in San Diego, maybe a landing site (http://http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17201&highlight=Australia) in Oz? or is that ... ? a plain old film crew ... ? trans-Pacific subs to naval bases in Australia (http://www.navy.gov.au/Bases) or somewhere anywhere in the Pacific, for that matter.

If it's staging time, there would be no need for UFO files & research anymore, I guess.

[THEWATCHER]

Mostly I'm signed off, but now and again my handlers have instructed me to peruse the forums and apply posts where required. That should clear up any issues anyone might have.:original:

[THEWATCHER]

For an example of how easy it is to discredit someone, to throw mud at someone (mud sticks), to begin the character assasination of someone please visit Bill Ryans thread to see what a great job is being done on Dr Steven Greer. A regularly used tool by the controllers is to get others to discredit an individual on open forums, because it spreads like wildfire, doubts rise in peoples minds and all manner of illogical assumptions are made. Follow on with further character assasination and BANG! there goes another poor sod. This is one method, they are several in use by the controllers in getting an individual discredited and ultimately disbelieved and forgotten.

Yes I have been requested to come in and post and keep open minds OPEN!

[SWIFT]

Hi Barry,:welcomeani:

Well Done Man and Yes we don't need personnel attacks on ones character at PC . Thoses people who question personnal sexual individuality :mfr_omg:is disgusting.

Peace to all and we live in the same the boat folks,

SWIFTY

[THEWATCHER]

Anyone in admin, can you please let me know what this means as I thought subs were free to whistleblowers?..................

Email I received today..................

Paid Subscription Expiry Notice‏
From: Project Avalon Forum (forum_admin@projectavalon.net)
Sent: 13 December 2009 08:02:17
To: maninblackuk@hotmail.com

Dear THEWATCHER, Your access to the paid subscription "Avalon & Camelot Subscription" is about to expire. If you have selected a recurring subscription you will be automatically billed for the renewal, else to renew this subscription you must visit http://projectavalon.net/forum/payments.php If you do not extend your subscription, access will be removed. All the best,Project Avalon Forum

[Jonah]

I got something like that right before the forums went public....

I'll ask someone

[DoctorWho]

My subscription is still active as my $1 went through today. I'm guess we have to cancel the PayPal subscriptions for those of us on monthlies?
Bill "the Doctor"

[sunflower]

I got one today, Barry. Just ignore it. A glitch in the software- has to be dismantled. You don't pay because you are a whistleblower.

I'm curious. In what direction are you heading ? Waiting to hear more from you. Thanks.

[MaikaNz]

Yes I saw that character assassination of Dr Greer and I thought, who cares what his sexuality is. I guess no one told tptb that the old mindset of bigotry (whatever theme) has almost faded on this forum.

(whatever theme) - Racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia etc


Same fear/hate, different theme.

[olgraybear]

Why would this "mud slinging" be something done?

[olgraybear]

This is not exactly a post saying "Hey, check this out. It's the one true location of where you can go to get the ultimate disclosure information."
But instead, I feel it is related from another direction, of where this television
episode expands on the way and need for people of all races, creed, or religious belief, to realize how the political powers manipulate the common folk of the world to meet their agenda. Manipulation... Therefore, that is how I feel that this is related.
If you can't get it on your television service, you might check youtube, it should show up there.

The show is "The People Speak", on the History Channel. It's very moving and
will open your heart and your mind.

http://www.history.com/

http://www.history.com/content/people-speak

[THEWATCHER]

I got one today, Barry. Just ignore it. A glitch in the software- has to be dismantled. You don't pay because you are a whistleblower.

I'm curious. In what direction are you heading ? Waiting to hear more from you. Thanks.
Currently they wish me to detail what has become known as my secret history.................

[ce-4]

For an example of how easy it is to discredit someone, to throw mud at someone (mud sticks), to begin the character assasination of someone please visit Bill Ryans thread to see what a great job is being done on Dr Steven Greer

Barry

In your opinion do you consider this ploy by Bill Ryan to discredit Dr Greer his own idea, or by generating controversy, drive more traffic here & thereby more "possible" donators?

Or, is somebody else's hand inside the glove puppet?

Apologies if this is taking this thread off track btw

[THEWATCHER]

Barry

In your opinion do you consider this ploy by Bill Ryan to discredit Dr Greer his own idea, or by generating controversy, drive more traffic here & thereby more "possible" donators?

Or, is somebody else's hand inside the glove puppet?

Apologies if this is taking this thread off track btw
I would like to believe Bill Ryan is above such action but cannot comprehend why he openly gave those details knowing full well a s*** storm would ensue. We all know Bill and Kerry disagree with Dr Greer on certain issues but they are relative newcomers to the field and should step back when someone with more experience and knowledge states certain data. I have defended Dr Greer in the past inasmuch as being one of his witnesses and providing data he currently uses and talks about in interviews and at conferences. If someone throws mud at Greer it tends to splash on his witnesses too. The point of more traffic here is made by making the forum free again and allowing guests to view. In my opinion allowing guests to view is a big mistake as no controls on whose eyes are watching here, not all are friendly or indifferent.
Barry

[THEWATCHER]

As requested.........THE VOICE, THE SECRET HISTORY

We can begin with the Genetic Survey, the genetic program, as detailed in original files and in filmed interviews.......THE PSI-WARS

For the sake of saving time I will not bother to recount exactly what this genetics program was as its been detailed before many times in several places besides the files. Here I will detail what occurred during my time with the program, its effects and what they had planned for those within the confines of the program. Going only by the timeline I was involved, up until age 15 in 1967, there would have been thousands of individuals going thru the process and procedures in UK alone, plus USA and Canada which no doubt would have had greater numbers.

[THEWATCHER]

My involvement began as a young child, exact date I cannot give here but I was around the age of 4/5, so it was approx. 10 years of genetic program involvement. I have already stated the countless hospital and other establishment visits, the countless physical tests procedures etc, now I will detail the darker more clandestine side, the psychic nurturing and enhancing placed upon me and countless other children during those times. For those whom might ask, YES this program continues to this day, more widespread as other nations developed their own programs, notably the Russians and the Chinese.

Reward the child.............

Memories, later verified to extent by official files viewed in 1970's. Try and picture the scene. Sitting on a hard wooden bench in a hallway of a building. You are about 6 or 7. Frightened, sitting with other children outside a room which has become familiar to you over the past year or two as 'the room'. Across the narrow long hallway sits a nurse with a clipboard, casually tapping the pencil on the board as she sits and smiles at the very nervous children. Each waiting to be taken into that room.

[THEWATCHER]

Its your turn, your name is called by a man whom opened the door of the room. The nurse looks at you with a motherly kind smile and escorts you inside, places you on a wooden chair facing two men on the other side of a large desk. One man dressed in a suit sits with papers and pens and constantly watches you and writes things down on his papers. The man directly in front of you is dressed as a soldier, as you get older and return here to 'the room' you realise he is an army officer. The nurse stands next to you, you are very nervous and hold your head low. The officer speaks to you asking trivia such as how are you today, that kind of thing. The nurse lifts your head with a hand under your chin so you face the officer. Sometimes you will have tears in your eyes, the officer seems to be gruff and stands for no nonsense. If you cry he asks the nurse to sort you out before the tests begin.

[THEWATCHER]

The tests and the rewards..........

UK children in the 50's and early 60's did not have the quantity of sweets (candy) as latter generations, so a few sweets were a luxury to many, it was still an austere UK after the war even then. On the desk sat a plate with a few sweets, some small chocolate bars and others, these were the rewards for those whom concentrated and completed their tests in a satisfactory way. Each child wanted to pass their respective tests and be given a reward so each worked hard. Many failed and ended in tears as they were escorted out of the room, ready to try much harder next time.

[THEWATCHER]

Again, try viewing this from the point of view of a frightened child of around 6 or 7. Left alone in this place by parents, the only company being other children like yourself, ages ranging from about 4 to about 14 or so. In groups re ages. You are looked after well enough but being away from home comforts plays very much on your young mind.

You sit as comfortably as you can on that hard wooden chair, facing the officer. You look at the other man as he intently watches you. You glance occasionally at that plate of goodies, almost tasting the sweets. You think you really must please them this time and come away with a sweet or two, maybe even a whole bar of chocolate if you do really well.

The tests start with small things, the officer has in front of him a paper wheel mounted on a stick, he blows on it and it revolves. He pushes it towards you a little and asks you to do the same....make it turn....not with your mouth blowing it.....but by using your mind to make it turn. He says he knows you can do it, he points to the plate of sweets. "Give it a try lad" as he smiles at you. You sit and concentrate, a few seconds go by, you feel all eyes upon you. Suddenly your mind goes to that other place and the paper wheel begins to turn, slowly at first, then as you get that strange feeling in your head the wheel turns faster and faster. The nurse has to squeeze your shoulder to make you stop as you are lost in that world far away. The officer smiles and says how clever you are. The man is writing and you are given a sweet, told to hold it and try the next test.

[THEWATCHER]

You are pleased you have at least one sweet to take back to the dorm, but you would of course like more. The next test looks a bit more difficult. You see to one side of the desk a small table, on this sits a box of some sort with two light bulbs sticking out of the top of it. Both are lit. The officer asks you to turn them off, one at a time, with your mind. You turn in your seat as the nurse steps back behind you. You look intently at the light bulbs, your mind starts to go to that place and the strange feeling in your head starts again. The left one goes out followed by the right one. In the distance you hear the officer ask you to switch them on again, they both do so. Your mind wants to play further so you turn them on and off rapidly till you hear them shatter. The nurse squeezes your shoulder tightly as you realise what you did. You think you will shouted at by them for breaking the lightbulbs and start to fidget in the chair, close to tears. The officer claps his hands and laughs telling you that you did exceptionally well, he hands you a whole bar of chocolate telling you that you have done well, that stops the tears. You smile and say thankyou as the nurse leads you out of the room and back along the hallway to the dorm. The other children in there rush over to see what you have, you happily show them your rewards as they gather round you.

[THEWATCHER]

The testing becomes more and more difficult, and even more so for the older children. Sitting on your very uncomfortable bed with itchy blankets the nurse opens the door of the dorm and calls out several names. These children are to follow her to do some special tests. We look at each other, with dread, and slowly leave the dorm and follow the nurse along the hallway, right to the end, then out of a door onto an area in the open, bright sunshine, nice and warm, and fresh air. We all smile at one another. Here we are, four small children, two boys, two girls, standing in the warm sun, smiling. We look around and see fields beyond a tall fence. Then we see the officer, the writing man and two others, these were ordinary soldiers, standing off to one side, next to a brick wall.

The officer approaches us and chats with us, ordinary basic things about being outside, lovely day, etc etc. Then asks us to try one special test and if we succeed all of the children will be rewarded with ice cream and jelly. We all look at one another and smile. The officer then asks us to hold hands and concentrate with our minds on the two soldiers standing by the brick wall. We each grab the others hand and stand there, shaking a little, nervous with what is to come. The officer smiles as he bends down to face us. He asks us if we can, as a combined group, with our minds, concentrate enough to push the two soldiers over. The girls drop hands and scream, start crying. The nurse comes over and pacifies them telling them no one is going to be hurt. Minutes later we stand holding hands and begin the test. We concentrate. My mind starts to go to that place as that feeling in my head begins. I picture the two soldiers falling over, almost being blown over. The nurse comes over and pulls us together, we stand, a bit dazed, looking towards the wall we see the two soldiers on the ground, not moving. We start to cry out and are ushered inside quickly. The soldiers we were informed later were knocked unconscious but ok. We actually managed to knock them off their feet and into the wall. It was sandwiches with ice cream and jelly for tea that day.

[hours]

G'day,

Why do some beings come though with a heightened sense of their psi potential,
whilst others, remain completely unaware? I've wondered this for a while.

Thanks

[no caste]

Watcher,

How did you come to be in this school? facility? orphanage? Did you live there? Day classes? I know in the UK it's common to send kids to boarding school. In fact, I have a close friend who's still kind of traumatized by being abandoned by her parents at a young age. (She still can't believe they didn't come see her, as they lived close by.)

Was it a special military facility?

Thx

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[Jacqui D]

Barry where was this school/facility in the UK?I have heard of one that our family know of on the south east coast Margate. Similar things were taken place there but this was where many children were taken who contracted TB in the early 50's this of course was a just a cover up it was more like a experimentation facility.

[Kari Lynn]

Funny/strange how many years ago, before I researched these types of forums, I had a friend of family that extensively tried to talk to me of sending my boys to UK to school. Here in the states, it's considered high society to be able to send your children out of country to be taught by UK.
The woman was well off. (Rich as hell! lol) and was going to pay to set it up for me, and all of her connections, since my mother and her were close friends.
As well as my own mother was very excited and pushing for me to do this.
My eldest son was the only one in school, at the time. John-John was in grade school. I think he may have been 6 or 7 yrs old at the time.
I refused, saying he's too young to be seperated from me, and I'd think about it for his high school years.
I seriously wonder what would have been forced upon my own boys had I agreed to such.
Knowing some of my history, Barry, what do you think?

Honestly, I'm breathing a sigh of relief that I didn't. lol. But then that sort of thing happens here also. Just that at least, I'm glad I'm here for my boys to help heal their hearts and knees when needed.

[THEWATCHER]

G'day,

Why do some beings come though with a heightened sense of their psi potential,
whilst others, remain completely unaware? I've wondered this for a while.

Thanks

Hi, could be that some individuals recognise from a young age that something is different about them, as they get older they experiment, find there are things they can do that are perhaps perceived as unusual, or even paranormal. Some are more 'intune' and inside they know they have abilities and capabilities that their peers do not share. Many are unfortunately grounded, their potential never realised as they are cocooned in modern day life styles and even restrictions placed upon them by religion or peers, families, whatever.

[THEWATCHER]

Watcher,

How did you come to be in this school? facility? orphanage? Did you live there? Day classes? I know in the UK it's common to send kids to boarding school. In fact, I have a close friend who's still kind of traumatized by being abandoned by her parents at a young age. (She still can't believe they didn't come see her, as they lived close by.)

Was it a special military facility?

Thx

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It is one of several regional centres, being the closest to my then home address I was taken there regularly over the course of the ten years. Sometimes just a day sometimes several days at a time, during school holidays it lasted a week or two. It is still in use today, we can refer to it as a specialised Military establishment. Yes the number of guests perusing is a concern but thats beyond my control.

[THEWATCHER]

Barry where was this school/facility in the UK?I have heard of one that our family know of on the south east coast Margate. Similar things were taken place there but this was where many children were taken who contracted TB in the early 50's this of course was a just a cover up it was more like a experimentation facility.

Hi Jacqui, This one is situated just West of London but there are several regional centres plus satellite facilities, i know of the one that used to be in Ashford, not know the coastal one you mention. Yes many insidious things occurred and no doubt still do, all in the name of furthering science!!

[THEWATCHER]

Numerous classes were arranged there besides the painful procedures and medical checks. By age the groups of children would sit in classes, reading what started out as ordinary run of the mill storybooks. After a few pages the text would change to foreign language text, most would simply stop and be unable to continue reading. The watchers would then note those children whom could read the foreign text and remove them from each class and take them to another classroom. Those that remained were asked to turn the page which contained various symbols, odd characters etc (later identified as off planet languages). Again, most simply could not make head or tail of it and sat at desks stumped. However, those that were able to read and descibe content were hurried out of the class and taken to another classroom.

Some of the tests were blind tests, inasmuch that we did not know what the results were at the time, such as being in a room and asked to concentrate on another room where someone was holding up cards with letters, symbols or numbers on them. We were asked to write down what we saw. The only indication of any success was a small treat such as a sweet or two. Similar tests were when we were asked to try and read someones mind from another room, these were the hardest tests within that category for many of us.

[THEWATCHER]

One instance that stuck in my mind all these years. It was when I was older, in fact just after my 10th birthday. Was at the place for about a week. I was reading a book on my bed when one of the others, a tubby boy named John jumped up from his bed holding his head and stumbled about. It obviously scared the rest of us as we noticed blood coming from his mouth and ears. Someone shouted for help and a nurse came running in, she went over to John and hurried him out of the room. We later learned that he had died whilst in the medical wing but no more details were told to us. We were warned very strictly to not talk about the event or we would face punishments. During that time frame, during one of the medical procedures I underwent, I recall sitting in the dentists type chair and the horrible rubber gas mask think being placed on my face. The nasty smell of gas was nauseating as i drifted into blackness. I woke up in my bed hours later with very painful headache and a very sore throat. I looked down and noticed my arms were bandaged too. After this my eyesight deteriorated and forced me to start wearing glasses. Oddly enough though my night vision was tremendous, I could see easily in the darkest of dark nights, rooms etc. Some consolation LOL.

[THEWATCHER]

Many of the tests in age range of up to about 8 were considered by the older children as baby games which upset the younger ones and often started fights among the children, the bigger older children always winning of course, until one day when one of the 8 year old girls gave a 14 year old girl a run for her money. The older girl was picking on a group of younger girls, making faces and prodding the younger ones in the back. This riled one girl to turn around and with a face red and full of anger stood clenching her fists as the older girl flew backwards onto her behind. It all went silent as the older girl, rather indignant and with hurt pride got up and ran away crying. I decided to never get on that girls bad side ever.

[Fredkc]

Something that bugs me...
Left alone in this place by parents, the only company being other children like yourself...I had, by most people's standards, a fairly strict childhood, as far as early schooling was concerned
(for a yank, anyway).
It was a bi-lingual English Private school in a foreign country. (time frame is '56-'60)

http://fredsitelive.com/personal/mepics/meinuniform.jpg

'Nuff said? (God, I hope so!)

This resulted in several confrontations, and a few brinkmanship encounters
between my parents and school.
Occasionally these turned on decisions arrive at by either the school saying:"Well, you are, of course, free to remove your child anytime you wish."
Or my parents saying something like:"Of course I can always write next month's check to another school."
Or maybe both.

But I don't think there'd be any reason or excuse you could give to my parents that would get them to "deliver" me to such a place a second time. I doubt I could have hidden the fear of such an encounter from them, well enough that they wouldn't pick it up.

My parents were patriotic, in a way that would be hard to understand for people who didn't live through the first half of the 20th century. And my father was not a stranger to classified projects, either (Ex: Hanford Pant - See: Manhattan Project)

But I suspect the only way you'd get my young ar$e in one of these places a second time, would be to kill my parents.

So I am curious:
Just what did they tell your parents about what was going on?
Did they use anything to keep you from telling them "too much"? and what?
What was it they thought was going on?

Fred

[Jacqui D]

I think Fred mostly the parents were mind controlled, thinking that their child was in the right school, educational wise i always thought my parents were controlled anyway.It made the whole thing so much easier for THEM to continue with the agenda at hand.
Just my twopenneth!

[Jacqui D]

Barry may i ask why your arms were bandaged, oh i remember the smell of that mask now i know why i have had an aversion to the dentist chair all my life, i am interested in why you were bandaged though seems a theme running here.:tears:

[eleni]

Yes, the parents are completely controlled.

[Kari Lynn]

I just found out today that the school councelor took my two youngest boys out of the school building yesterday. Without my or my husbands permission or knowledge.
I'm extremely concerned right now, because I don't know what the reason was for this.
They were driven, at least 20 miles to a town east of where we live.

Both boys are excited about it though, because as reward they both got to go shopping for new shoes, socks, etc....

I must add also. They didn't need new shoes. Their grandmother had bought them brand new shoes not more than a month ago, plus they still had two good pair from previously.
Not to mention there goes one of the Christmas gifts I had for them.

I'm so angry right now, I can't even see straight. It's taking all I got to stay here and not go up to the school and beat some heads in. It's not even LEGAL for them to take my children in their cars! That's KIDNAPPING! GOD! I want to kick some *ss!

[THEWATCHER]

Will be responding to above shortly, for now copy email I received from Rev. Pike, Rev if you read this you have me in stitches mate:lol3:

Rev Dr Anthony G. Pike (cosmicrf@hotmail.com)
Sent: 17 December 2009 16:47:56
To: cosmicrfgroup (cosmicrf@hotmail.com)
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O my God, our 2 'X-Men', Barry King and James Casbolt, are at it again!! It seems that each one is trying to outdo the other in far-fetched 'Alice in Wonderland' stories. So far, it seems that James has got the edge with his acts of 'spontaneous combustion' in the jungles of Africa, but Barry is not far behind with him rendering 2 soldiers unconscious with brain-power alone. Barry is, however, one up on James as he can see in the dark, but in daylight is as blind as a bat!! James, meanwhile, is as blind as a bat in the dark, but can see perfectly in daylight. O my God, that's why Barry was gonna drive James over a cliff in his Morris Minor as the guy's as blind as a bat!! Yer, now I get it. Okay, I reckon James has still got the edge on Barry and will probably win on points; as, anyway, Barry is now a doddering old fogey (like St Anthony!) while James is still only a young lad. Anyway, folks, why don't you decide for yourselves at www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=201020 www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=187073.
Yours in the battle for planet earth,
Rev Dr Anthony G. Pike (UK)
Cosmic Research Foundation
Markapur, A.P. 523316, India
E-Mail cosmicrf@hotmail.com
Tel 91-8596-224312/9959-684635
Date 17th Dec 2009

From: cosmicrf@hotmail.com

[THEWATCHER]

Something that bugs me...
I had, by most people's standards, a fairly strict childhood, as far as early schooling was concerned
(for a yank, anyway).
It was a bi-lingual English Private school in a foreign country. (time frame is '56-'60)

http://fredsitelive.com/personal/mepics/meinuniform.jpg

'Nuff said? (God, I hope so!)

This resulted in several confrontations, and a few brinkmanship encounters
between my parents and school.
Occasionally these turned on decisions arrive at by either the school saying:"Well, you are, of course, free to remove your child anytime you wish."
Or my parents saying something like:"Of course I can always write next month's check to another school."
Or maybe both.

But I don't think there'd be any reason or excuse you could give to my parents that would get them to "deliver" me to such a place a second time. I doubt I could have hidden the fear of such an encounter from them, well enough that they wouldn't pick it up.

My parents were patriotic, in a way that would be hard to understand for people who didn't live through the first half of the 20th century. And my father was not a stranger to classified projects, either (Ex: Hanford Pant - See: Manhattan Project)

But I suspect the only way you'd get my young ar$e in one of these places a second time, would be to kill my parents.

So I am curious:
Just what did they tell your parents about what was going on?
Did they use anything to keep you from telling them "too much"? and what?
What was it they thought was going on?

Fred

OK, good point. My case, as I'm sure were all of the others involved, a certain amount of coercion was used, in whatever fashion or level. Who knows what was said, done to the parents to make them give up their children into these programs. Ask the same question of anyone involved in these programs centreing around children. They quite possibly have no real answers available to them. In my case my parents had a child, one of 5, i had older sister and three younger brothers, but I was different. My parents had a child that died at age 2 and was miraculously brought back. That they had a child that was different, unusual, some might have said freaky. I came from a military family. My dad was in the Royal Engineers in WW2 in Germany. In 1945 he was involved in a secret mission or operation that even today is covered by a secrecy seal. In 1978 I was shown a folder which contained details about my dad, it had 100 years seal on it. My grandad was an artilleryman in WW1. By the time i was inducted into the Anvil/Oaktree program strange events had occurred in my life and affected my family. My parents were often asked, as i got older, why me?, whats going on, why do you send me there? etc etc. But as anyone of my age group will state, as children we respected and obeyed parents, anyone in authority in those days. We did as we were told. My parents were very strict, my dad especially. A military man whom took no nonsense from anyone, he instilled in me discipline and obedience, and respect for authority. If i crossed the line, which was a few times, i had that big heavy belt on my backside. I learned lessons and did not make further mistakes. At 15, when my final visits to hospitals, this place, other establishments finally ended. I went up to my dad and confronted him, we faced off, neither giving an inch. We could have killed one another but both backed down without losing ground. It was to remain an unspoken unanswered part of my life. Even a month before my dad died during surgery in January of 1999 I sat with him and softly asked why?. He looked at me with tears in his eyes and could only say it was for the best and was for my country. I was choking up too so left it there. I knew he would not pull thru the rigorous surgery planned for him a few weeks later so we said our goodbyes that day

[THEWATCHER]

Barry may i ask why your arms were bandaged, oh i remember the smell of that mask now i know why i have had an aversion to the dentist chair all my life, i am interested in why you were bandaged though seems a theme running here.:tears:

They performed surgery on my arms, data kept from me till i saw my files in 1977 and 1978, an augmentation is the phrase typed on the page.

[THEWATCHER]

I just found out today that the school councelor took my two youngest boys out of the school building yesterday. Without my or my husbands permission or knowledge.
I'm extremely concerned right now, because I don't know what the reason was for this.
They were driven, at least 20 miles to a town east of where we live.

Both boys are excited about it though, because as reward they both got to go shopping for new shoes, socks, etc....

I must add also. They didn't need new shoes. Their grandmother had bought them brand new shoes not more than a month ago, plus they still had two good pair from previously.
Not to mention there goes one of the Christmas gifts I had for them.

I'm so angry right now, I can't even see straight. It's taking all I got to stay here and not go up to the school and beat some heads in. It's not even LEGAL for them to take my children in their cars! That's KIDNAPPING! GOD! I want to kick some *ss!

Its being looked into Kari, PM sent to you

[Agape]

Pain is not the way . It is never the way. Even as a kid you are forced to make conscious decision to follow or not certain way.
You have chosen very difficult one , dangerous one , it's been painful .

What do you search for in life ...as a reward for what you've given .


Light and prayers for your swift recovery

Love Always

:thumb_yello:

[THEWATCHER]

No reward awaits me but maybe a chance to repair my broken spirit and a cessation of the acute pain i have 24/7 would be gratefully received

[THEWATCHER]

This current timeline being shown here IS relevant and will become obvious in due course. This secret history once complete will give you all the full picture of who I am and more importantly, WHAT I am and WHY I am here. Please have patience.

[hours]

Thanks for your reply. It already makes sense.

[Kari Lynn]

Its being looked into Kari, PM sent to you
Thanks Barry,
Sorry, a mistake I made. It wasn't East, but West. They took them to K-Mart in Independence. (or Big K?) From what the kids told me.
so agitated, that I can't even get my directions correct.

[no caste]

Kari Lynn - I read your first post about the 'drive' earlier today. I really wanted to say: Go to the school, beat some heads in. See your kids, check 'em out. Talk. Ask questions.

Of course, I don't know how far, details, dangers to you, etc. I hope the ftards die... not too loving. Hope all's OK - what a, well, I'd best stop.

You guys all keep going and be well :thumb_yello:

[Jacqui D]

Hi Kari, just read all your post again!!!! Are your kids okay?
What the hells going on? are they able to tell you, have you been to the school i would be sorting a few people out!!!!!!!
Love to you my dear my heart goes out to you.:wub2:

[Jacqui D]

Barry augmentation, made better or something added?
Has this anything to do with the 5 artifacts?

[no caste]

It was to remain an unspoken unanswered part of my life. Even a month before my dad died during surgery in January of 1999 I sat with him and softly asked why?. He looked at me with tears in his eyes and could only say it was for the best and was for my country. I was choking up too so left it there. I knew he would not pull thru the rigorous surgery planned for him a few weeks later so we said our goodbyes that day

Watcher,

Is it possible to post a photo of you and your dad, maybe 1 taken by your Mom or close family member - or maybe just your dad - and #2 in a work sH*T-ituation.

It's very poignant. :sad: I am glad you and your dad had that moment. He is lucky that you came, as you did.

Thx

[iainl140285]

Barry augmentation, made better or something added?
Has this anything to do with the 5 artifacts?

Hi Jacqui, Im sure Barry will answer himself - but I just wanted to add this in here so people can get an idea of augmentation incase the term in new to them.

Here is a 'fictional' account of a set of augmentation procedures carried out on super soldiers taken from childhood. This is taken from the graphic novels/games surrounding the Halo Universe.

The children were selected for their abilities at youth and replaced with flash clones which die at a young age. Therefore, no suspicious is aroused about the missing kids.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Spartan_Augmentation_Procedures

Procedures include skeletal strengthing, improved eye sight, speed, strength etc.

[THEWATCHER]

Barry augmentation, made better or something added?
Has this anything to do with the 5 artifacts?

Always on the ball Jacqui:original: yes it has, as will see when I move forwards in the timeline. Both arms required lets say, a little 'tweaking' as did both legs at 14

[Jacqui D]

Okay i'll hold off with anymore questions til you get your information out

[THEWATCHER]

Watcher,

Is it possible to post a photo of you and your dad, maybe 1 taken by your Mom or close family member - or maybe just your dad - and #2 in a work sH*T-ituation.

It's very poignant. :sad: I am glad you and your dad had that moment. He is lucky that you came, as you did.

Thx

When my dad passed away he left the entire house and contents to one person, my youngest brother whom acted as carer for my dad. This was OK to an extent but did result in arguments that meant I have not spoken to him, my sister and her husband, whom lived nearby and were constantly coming round trying to influence my dad, in ten years. Remember I was the troublesome odd one out, the black sheep of the family. I was in my dads will all along till 1998 when it was hurriedly changed. But thats another story. In that house were items that belonged to me, items I left there when I moved out to get married in 1979. Also, and more importantly, my dad had stowed away in a befroom cupboard, atop a built in above the stairs cupboard, a bag containing all his WW2 stuff. His medals, papers, tons of photographs of him and his unit in Germany, etc etc. There was also a silver cigarette case belonging to an SS officer. As a young boy I'd frequently get that bag from the cupboard and just sit and look at it all in wonderment. I often said as the years went by that I would like those items if my dad ever wanted to part with them. The last time I saw them was in 1977 during redecorating. After my dad passed away and my brother took control of the house I was not allowed to go there and retrieve not only my belongings but I insisted the WW2 stuff should at least be passed over to me. I not only asked for them frequently but being the eldest son I stupidly thought I deserved something. A massive amount of ordinary everyday photos were also in the house along with many reels of homemade 8mm cine films from over the years. All of this was denied me. I can try to obtain some unit photos but cannot guarantee. I had a number of photos taken whilst I was with my unit on Salisbury plain, will see if I can gain access to them.

[Jacqui D]

Sadly this happens too many times in families,regarding your dads momento's etc, but this would have been of utmost importance to you perhaps to enlighten you on your past hm!
Oh the black sheep thing you weren't the only one believe me.
Seems a trait which runs through families when there are those who are different.

[THEWATCHER]

Okay i'll hold off with anymore questions til you get your information out

No please, I'm more than happy to answer what I can in the meantime:original:

[Jacqui D]

Okay this surgery is connected to these 5 artifacts or one of them i assume because the other 4 are connected with others who have had the same surgery i am guessing. These artifacts are no doubt alien and the power within them are implemented by your DNA right?Is James(Michael) another like yourself?
I understand if you do not wish to answer this yet! but i feel this is something that will be spoken about in the future.









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[Paul J Salmon]

Barry, what you have been saying about the tests that you took endured as a young child sound very similar to something that happened to me! I had just recently started to send my experiences through to James about 12 days back. I told him that I would send more details but I have not got round to it yet as I found it quite traumatic writing it down. I had never talked about it before. Anyway, keep up the good work mate!

[THEWATCHER]

Okay this surgery is connected to these 5 artifacts or one of them i assume because the other 4 are connected with others who have had the same surgery i am guessing. These artifacts are no doubt alien and the power within them are implemented by your DNA right?Is James(Michael) another like yourself?
I understand if you do not wish to answer this yet! but i feel this is something that will be spoken about in the future.

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I am glad several of you are really on the ball, makes my job a little easier. Yes directly connected in order for preparation to receive and link directly with artefact. Yes each of the 5 have DNA linked and the artefacts can only work with that individual. James is different in a number of ways but its probably not my place to detail those differences.

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, what you have been saying about the tests that you took endured as a young child sound very similar to something that happened to me! I had just recently started to send my experiences through to James about 12 days back. I told him that I would send more details but I have not got round to it yet as I found it quite traumatic writing it down. I had never talked about it before. Anyway, keep up the good work mate!

Thankyou Paul, I look forward to hearing of your experiences if you wish to share at any time

[THEWATCHER]

A recap.....This was one of several places the program used. Many hospitals, government facilities of varying kinds, Harwell in particular.

[Jacqui D]

Okay Barry are you the only UK one? (linked with an artifact)apart from james (michael) i know you say he is something different, i have a feeling you are not, are the others in the US then?
May i ask what and why these artifacts have been connected with the 5 or is that too much to ask?
Have you always been connected to these before Earths incarnation or is this something implemented for the end time scenario.
Sorry if i have asked to many questions here i have been dying to ask you this for so long.
If you are not allowed to answer i understand.
You give us so much information both you and James (michael) and i it is not easy for you, i feel for both of you and want to send you my love because if there is nothing else in this mad world i know love will conquer all.:wub2:

[THEWATCHER]

Okay Barry are you the only UK one? (linked with an artifact)apart from james (michael) i know you say he is something different, i have a feeling you are not, are the others in the US then?
May i ask what and why these artifacts have been connected with the 5 or is that too much to ask?
Have you always been connected to these before Earths incarnation or is this something implemented for the end time scenario.
Sorry if i have asked to many questions here i have been dying to ask you this for so long.
If you are not allowed to answer i understand.
You give us so much information both you and James (michael) and i it is not easy for you, i feel for both of you and want to send you my love because if there is nothing else in this mad world i know love will conquer all.:wub2:

I believe I briefly mentioned the reasons behind the 5 earlier in the other thread. Since age 2 when I died and was brought back, but not as before, if you get my drift, it has been destined for me to be part of an OPI long term plan to protect this planet or blow it away depending on certain circumstances. I am one of the 5. The other 4 reside in USA, Russia, India and Australia. James is not connected to the 5 in any way but might have different connections in a different manner. The 5 in turn will produce 5 more as the cycle turns. There will always be 5. I cannot say too much here but certain events and procedures took place during July to September last year which was directly connected with 5 furthering 5 more. I'm itching to say but am instructed not to at this time. You are a very kind warm hearted and compassionate Lady, you have a good heart which I appreciate and thankyou for. Your support and kind words here help a great deal, helping myself and no doubt James too thru the darkness we travel.

[Kari Lynn]

I believe I briefly mentioned the reasons behind the 5 earlier in the other thread. Since age 2 when I died and was brought back, but not as before, if you get my drift, it has been destined for me to be part of an OPI long term plan to protect this planet or blow it away depending on certain circumstances. I am one of the 5. The other 4 reside in USA, Russia, India and Australia. James is not connected to the 5 in any way but might have different connections in a different manner. The 5 in turn will produce 5 more as the cycle turns. There will always be 5. I cannot say too much here but certain events and procedures took place during July to September last year which was directly connected with 5 furthering 5 more. I'm itching to say but am instructed not to at this time. You are a very kind warm hearted and compassionate Lady, you have a good heart which I appreciate and thankyou for. Your support and kind words here help a great deal, helping myself and no doubt James too thru the darkness we travel.
The five more; will they be put through the same traumatic experiences that you endured?

[Fredkc]

Since age 2 when I died and was brought back,Odd bit;
I have always had a good memory. Better than most. Sometimes I have to corral 2 or 3 family members to extract bits of what they can remember about an event, in the same room, before they will even believe what I tell them happened. And then comes, "Oh, ok! Now I rememeber what you mean."

There are limits. The big one is I can not remember a single thing before the age of two.

Turns out, I contracted Spinal Meningitis at that age. I wound up in a coma for 3 days, unconscious for 2 weeks.

I know, I know, "No one remembers back that far!" Yes, I have heard that all my life, from family and friends alike. So, I tell them my very first memory in this life.It's about waking up, in the hospital, looking out my window and seeing my nurse arrive at work. What the parking lot looked like, the fact is was gravel, and not paved. What her car looked like (black and white two-tone Ford). The old green sweater she used to wear when she drove to work.
It took a while before family stopped looking at me strange, because I was right. But I have no memory whatsoever from before the coma.

This used to make me wonder if I wasn't, maybe, a walk-in of some kind (I have to admit, this planet looks mighty strange to me), or that I had been "messed with" in some way.

Since, I have always just written it off to the Spinal Meningitis. telling myself things like, "Sure, everyone thinks they're special, get over it." and such. One of the things that got me wondering about it, again, was an event about 15 years ago.

I had this odd thing, "waking up" in a white room, white people, white table, etc... with the feeling "my insides" were all laid out on the table. This "very nice lady" leaned over my face and quietly said, "Go back to sleep. You're just being re-wired."

What has always bothered me about this, as if that didn't sound odd enough, was the fact, my reaction was to simply say, "Oh, ok." and go quietly back to sleep.

Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out to see what it brought up.

Fred

[Jacqui D]

Ah! just as i thought then i am sorry i missed the earlier post regarding saving the planet or annilhilation, i had assumed this Are these artefacts in secure places or are they within you? i am guessing not because of the power with which they hold, so are they secure? because certain factions knowing of these powerful implements could prove a worry if in the wrong hands so to speak.
Also what would cause the scenario in which these artefacts be used a threatening alien invasion by malevolent beings who would annihilate the human race or use for food.
Extinction because TPTB have this in their agenda anyway, please speculate if you can, we have skirted around this issue for so long now i think the members on avalon are grown up enough to know the truth. You are doing an excellent job here Barry it is not easy i know for you and i know you can only say what you are allowed to say but we just want the truth now.
Or perhaps a totally different scenario that we have never even regarded in to the situation of it all.
Bless you :wub2:

[Jacqui D]

Ha Fred! seems there are more here on avalon then than first thought.
I think i was a walk in also i have stated this before, i contracted double pneumonia when i was 6 months i called that my get out clause, sadly it was not meant to be and i survived but around the age of 3/4 years of age i was involved in a strange event i still do not have the answers for all of it.
I lived in a tiny Kent village in the UK in the early 50's and we could never understand why we had a well known American actor visit us in a way which was very secret, so secret in fact that only myself and my mother actually met this guy face to face.
I am the youngest of 6 children, they are all much older than i, my sister who remembers this very well could not understand why she could not come too!
Nothing was said by my mother like Barry stated before in an earlier post you did as you were told in those days children were seen but not heard.
Across the street from where we lived was a local public house which my mother and grandmother frequented often, i was taken to this place after that it is all a bit of a mystery, i have been told and through regression recently i know some kind of ritual took place and i (this Jacqui higher self i believe) was brought through.
Something about needed in the future for end times.
The actor who was connected in this ritual was Efrim Zimbillist Jnr. Just thought i would throw this in because if anyone has any information on him other than the usual biography of his life etc i would love to know more.

[THEWATCHER]

The five more; will they be put through the same traumatic experiences that you endured?

No the offspring will not be required to go thru those traumas

[THEWATCHER]

Odd bit;
I have always had a good memory. Better than most. Sometimes I have to corral 2 or 3 family members to extract bits of what they can remember about an event, in the same room, before they will even believe what I tell them happened. And then comes, "Oh, ok! Now I rememeber what you mean."

There are limits. The big one is I can not remember a single thing before the age of two.

Turns out, I contracted Spinal Meningitis at that age. I wound up in a coma for 3 days, unconscious for 2 weeks.

I know, I know, "No one remembers back that far!" Yes, I have heard that all my life, from family and friends alike. So, I tell them my very first memory in this life.It's about waking up, in the hospital, looking out my window and seeing my nurse arrive at work. What the parking lot looked like, the fact is was gravel, and not paved. What her car looked like (black and white two-tone Ford). The old green sweater she used to wear when she drove to work.
It took a while before family stopped looking at me strange, because I was right. But I have no memory whatsoever from before the coma.

This used to make me wonder if I wasn't, maybe, a walk-in of some kind (I have to admit, this planet looks mighty strange to me), or that I had been "messed with" in some way.

Since, I have always just written it off to the Spinal Meningitis. telling myself things like, "Sure, everyone thinks they're special, get over it." and such. One of the things that got me wondering about it, again, was an event about 15 years ago.

I had this odd thing, "waking up" in a white room, white people, white table, etc... with the feeling "my insides" were all laid out on the table. This "very nice lady" leaned over my face and quietly said, "Go back to sleep. You're just being re-wired."

What has always bothered me about this, as if that didn't sound odd enough, was the fact, my reaction was to simply say, "Oh, ok." and go quietly back to sleep.

Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out to see what it brought up.

Fred

Thankyou for sharing that Fred. I have no doubts that there are many, many, across the globe that have similar histories yet most cannot connect the dots, or are afraid to, or simply being unable to connect with others for various reasons. I am seeing an opening of awareness here which is great. The white room is one i have heard a few times from others, very intriguing Fred.:original:

[THEWATCHER]

Ah! just as i thought then i am sorry i missed the earlier post regarding saving the planet or annilhilation, i had assumed this Are these artefacts in secure places or are they within you? i am guessing not because of the power with which they hold, so are they secure? because certain factions knowing of these powerful implements could prove a worry if in the wrong hands so to speak.
Also what would cause the scenario in which these artefacts be used a threatening alien invasion by malevolent beings who would annihilate the human race or use for food.
Extinction because TPTB have this in their agenda anyway, please speculate if you can, we have skirted around this issue for so long now i think the members on avalon are grown up enough to know the truth. You are doing an excellent job here Barry it is not easy i know for you and i know you can only say what you are allowed to say but we just want the truth now.
Or perhaps a totally different scenario that we have never even regarded in to the situation of it all.
Bless you :wub2:

OK i agree, everyone here is adult enough to hear, my only concern being the free access to guests to view these pages. You never know quite whom might be watching. But lets risk it shall we? Life is dull without a few risks. OK, from what I have already disclosed, well thats enough already for the skeptics to go overboard and really take a few shots at me. There are one or two here at PC and PA whom I'm sure would like to take a shot. "Its OK Mr King, take your meds, the nice warm van is outside ready to take you to your nice warm padded cell, er, suite, theres a good lad, come quietly" LOL. The artefacts are all held in secure locations, I did actually keep mine here with me for some time, kept in a special box. It can only be activated when linked with me, no one else. Right now it is in a very safe secure facility. There may be times when the 5 need to link and bring up the shield and then link to a source off planet to sustain that shielding for longer periods of time. It is unlikely that the elimination of this planet will ever be required. But because of the nature of the 5, the powers each have on their own, their capabilities, are easy targets for nations other than host nations. On the prowl constantly are agencies and factions wishing to use these as weapons systems. Among those in the game of cat n mouse are NSA, with their lackies the CIA, MOSSAD, FSB, MI5 and 6, one or two others.

continuing shortly..............

[THEWATCHER]

There are specific factions on this planet that are hell bent on not only controlling us all but wish to see a severe reduction in numbers on Earth. They have the power, the means, the technologies and the powercrazed mindset to carry these thru. They can cause weather severities, floods, hurricanes, drought, you name it, including earthquakes. Of course its not beyond them to trigger wars, infect a population with bioweapons, nothing is too much for these people.

Its never been a cut n dried 'them and us' with regard to non humans interacting with this planet. There are many races, many agendas. Some working with humans, some working against. We have the elders, the old ones, whom watch over this planet and have vested interests in us whom constantly are at readiness to play their hand with other benign beings to shield the planet from ourselves and from invading forces should any wish to take action against the co-operation they view re this planet and its inhabitants. This would be the only time the non interference rule would be lifted, in such an emerging state of total chaos and loss of life.

[THEWATCHER]

Ha Fred! seems there are more here on avalon then than first thought.
I think i was a walk in also i have stated this before, i contracted double pneumonia when i was 6 months i called that my get out clause, sadly it was not meant to be and i survived but around the age of 3/4 years of age i was involved in a strange event i still do not have the answers for all of it.
I lived in a tiny Kent village in the UK in the early 50's and we could never understand why we had a well known American actor visit us in a way which was very secret, so secret in fact that only myself and my mother actually met this guy face to face.
I am the youngest of 6 children, they are all much older than i, my sister who remembers this very well could not understand why she could not come too!
Nothing was said by my mother like Barry stated before in an earlier post you did as you were told in those days children were seen but not heard.
Across the street from where we lived was a local public house which my mother and grandmother frequented often, i was taken to this place after that it is all a bit of a mystery, i have been told and through regression recently i know some kind of ritual took place and i (this Jacqui higher self i believe) was brought through.
Something about needed in the future for end times.
The actor who was connected in this ritual was Efrim Zimbillist Jnr. Just thought i would throw this in because if anyone has any information on him other than the usual biography of his life etc i would love to know more.
Cool guy, remember him in 'FBI' and '77 Sunset Strip'............hmmm thinking now

[THEWATCHER]

Something I have noticed which I find quite amusing. For 15 years my disclosures have in the main, received little mainstream attention, in fact at times the silence was deafening. There was acute ignorance and indifference for much of the time. When they were noticed the disbelief was noisy and violent at times. I mentioned things I was involved in, ARV, advanced remote viewing, sensing and influencing. Using chemical aids and at times when recordings were necessary for real time assessment, we were hooked up to computers via the trip seat. All too heavy it seems for people. Recently, over the past couple of years, even now too, we have others stepping forwards stating that such remote viewing procedures often use chemicals and electronics to enhance the work. NOW people are listening to these individuals, hanging on to their every word, .......as if its new and unheard of before now LOL

[THEWATCHER]

Back tomorrow, goodnight everyone

[Kari Lynn]

Goodnight Barry,
Thanks for the information here.
Me, I'll sit up a little longer communicating with the NSA's "lacky"s by sign language and looking for the agent with ID of 10T. ROFL. (oh wait! Might that be all of them?! ROFL)

[Jacqui D]

Hi Barry, thanks for the info can you elaborate on who are the benign ones out there it would put perspective on things i feel.
You mention a shield protecting us and from ourselves please forgive my ignorance in this but why from ourselves have i got that right?
I know there is an elaborate agenda to control the human race by the hive mind AI System how many in your speculation do they control here now at this time!or if they do.
You also mention elder race, most on avalon i feel will know of these but to define it better can you mention who/timeframe/density they frequent.
Thanks, also Barry the amount of information you gave us over a year ago now has been sinking in but my old brain is slow lol!! and although i did thank you at the time i have been through all your data on dvd's which you kindly sent to me i will always be thankful for those.
I;m sorry to hear you have not received the acclaim with which in my eyes you should have been given, regarding all this because before your disclosures i had never heard of underground bases or military abductions so you where the first in my speculation and will always be and i want to know why Bill and kerry have never given you an interview, or James!
I think it is about time this is put into place.
That's my opinion anyway perhaps the more members that add to this question we will get an answer.

[Kari Lynn]

Actually, Jacqui, I think this is a better place for Barry and James, rather than an interview. Here we may have to deal with trolls, and such, but with an interview, your subject matter is totally at the descretion of the interviewer, as well as time alotted.
Here on this thread, we can ask many questions over much time. Barry is only limited by himself, and those over him, rather than an interviewer also.

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry, thanks for the info can you elaborate on who are the benign ones out there it would put perspective on things i feel.
You mention a shield protecting us and from ourselves please forgive my ignorance in this but why from ourselves have i got that right?
I know there is an elaborate agenda to control the human race by the hive mind AI System how many in your speculation do they control here now at this time!or if they do.
You also mention elder race, most on avalon i feel will know of these but to define it better can you mention who/timeframe/density they frequent.
Thanks, also Barry the amount of information you gave us over a year ago now has been sinking in but my old brain is slow lol!! and although i did thank you at the time i have been through all your data on dvd's which you kindly sent to me i will always be thankful for those.
I;m sorry to hear you have not received the acclaim with which in my eyes you should have been given, regarding all this because before your disclosures i had never heard of underground bases or military abductions so you where the first in my speculation and will always be and i want to know why Bill and kerry have never given you an interview, or James!
I think it is about time this is put into place.
That's my opinion anyway perhaps the more members that add to this question we will get an answer.

Yes you heard right. Humans trying to destroy this planet rather than an agressive OPI or similar threat. The military could within seconds start a chain reaction with warfare on a nuclear or chem/bio scale, or bring about drastic weather modifications which render life here in grave danger.
The elders or old ones are guardians whom seek life in the universe, they seed planets capable of supporting intelligent life, once seeded they monitor those planets, nurture them to fruition. Like caretakers they lovingly take care of each respective planet they have seeded. Many with open hearts and spirits will know of these ancient ones, they can be found in mankinds history all the way back. As for numbers of controlled? Its impossible to say, the controlled come in varying types ranging from upper level governments and military, intel, scientific community, to everyday folk, in greater numbers. But what I see here is an awakening, a breaking of controls to an extent.
The benign races include the tall whites, tall greys, there is a very fine line in descriptions we humans have placed upon these beings. To one man its a tall white, to another its a nordic, to yet another its a tall grey. They merge and link together till they cannot be discerned one from another.It has been my pleasure to share data with everyone, that was my aim, to enlighten where I can. I do not seek acclaim, simply noting that my disclosures on specific topics were largely ignored or treated with indifference. Am annoyed at these same types of disclosures coming from others much later and these are taken onboard. Very strange life LOL.
As for an interview with Bill and Kerry, circumstances have played a part in that not happening. Whilst they were immersed in much work I sat and waited. Then just before certain events took me out of the frame last summer (2008) I had to contact various would be interviewers that I was not available. Knowing something was heading my way. You are most welcome Jacqui to any further data you feel you might want that I may have here. Keep well and safe my dear

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Throwing this in, message from Miles Johnston via Youtube, and my reply....................

It will have to be a Bases 7 then, as I am putting the lid on Bases 4 this weekend. I have Bases 3 still to do, on Rendlesham. That has to be done now. As with yourselves, Brenda and her researchers keep coming up verbal stories about wonderful things, but still nothing actually ON CAMERA.

The viewing public get tired of stories. They need something far more substantial.

Jame's material is so disturbing its very difficult to even edit.

Fairy Tales, Shaggy dog stories and nurery ryms are fine, but this material needs to be credible, so that the truth is released, and the critics are silenced.

I would be delighted to film you guys in your own time and when you feel best. But we are going to need more than stories. Last year at the UFO Congress they were very thrilled by the special edit I made of Bases 2. But they need a show, and they need pictures, evidence, not just talking heads.

Duncan has contacted me, maybe he can help.

don't recall the p.s?.
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My reply.......

Let me see, can you show me one whistleblower over the years whom has been able to provide hard concrete proof of their claims? NOT ONE, not even any of the big names, none can, not John Lear, Robert Dean, no one. Did Dr R Kilde magickly pull something out of her pocket as proof? No of course not. You keep failing to realise that trying to bring something out of such a facility is totally impossible with the security in place. Thats why Thomas Castello claims are false, he could not have brought anything out of that facility. Dr Greer says he has now 12 people whom were involved with PLFs, thats me, the FIRST one plus 11 others. I think thats verification don't you?. Wonder what/who the other 11 are. Their claims. YES initially only a certain amount of data was possible for disclosure in the original files but then only the facility and PLFs were what everyone concerned themselves over, when they bothered. I detailed a great deal of stuff there including data re Dugway and Camp Peary which went right over everyones head. Sure I am now releasing more data, and it seems forums is a way of disclosing safely for now. Everyone needs to connect the dots from my childhood right up to modern day, its all there, check it, it makes sense and logic, explains it all too. Stories? Fables? Tales? why bother then?

[Ara]

The elders or old ones are guardians whom seek life in the universe, they seed planets capable of supporting intelligent life, once seeded they monitor those planets, nurture them to fruition. Like caretakers they lovingly take care of each respective planet they have seeded.

I've always referred to the Old Ones as The Custodians. Some years back Dolores Cannon wrote a book called The Custodians, that was the first time I saw an OPI race referred to as such. I shared this with a friend and she asked Miriam Delicardo if her Nordic ETs were known as Custodians and Miriam replied in the affirmative.

Nice to see you in good spirits Barry. :)

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Ara, good to see you, hope you are well:original:

[Jacqui D]

Thanks for answering my questions Barry, i feel many will know this info regarding elders/custodians/ there is a lot of knowledge out there just like to define which is which, so in your eyes some of the greys are benevolent because they do get a pretty dumb deal by most.
That has put things in perspective for me.
Can you tell me are the greys a race with consciousness and are they recognised as a race from original source if there are good greys out there i would guess they were but like all races there are good and bad in all. I read somewhere that the greys just want to be recognised as a race of there own.
Also when you said at the age of two you were pulled back (my words) can't remember what you actually said now but was a higher self brought forward then perhaps one of these elders?
Are you a guardian/elder/custodian, this is why the artefact had to be augmentated because you now reside in a human body.
And may i ask have you been brought forward from the future to be here at this time?
Which in itself gives questions that a possible end time scenario could be played out so much so that it was felt these elders should be here.
The name with which you use for your avatar says it all really i know but i am interested in these elders/higher beings can you tell us more about the guardians if possible, you have mentioned seeding planets yes and being watchers over them, do we have a name then of the original elders i'm digging i know i am trying to get this all correct.

[Ara]

Hi Ara, good to see you, hope you are well:original:

Hi Barry, thank you and yes I am well. :original:

[THEWATCHER]

Responding shortly Jacqui, in consultation with others to see what I can openly state re your questions. Barry

One mused, then said it was like placing the last few lines of a book and leaving out several chapters before it.........hmmm, need to think on this more

[wynderer]

Hi Barry --i'd watched a number of the Bases videos in the past, incl yours -- just checked them out again from your link, & learned that all the interviews started w/yours -- thanks for coming out w/the truth & opening a way for others to share theirs

my question for you: at the beginning of this thread, you stated that the last one was taken down by 'them' -- it's not clear to me: Was the thread knocked off/disappeared? or were you told by 'them' to knock it off yourself? i'm assuming the former?

thanks again for your courage

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

[THEWATCHER]

Please forgive lateness, all PMs will be answered in due course

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry --i'd watched a number of the Bases videos in the past, incl yours -- just checked them out again from your link, & learned that all the interviews started w/yours -- thanks for coming out w/the truth & opening a way for others to share theirs

my question for you: at the beginning of this thread, you stated that the last one was taken down by 'them' -- it's not clear to me: Was the thread knocked off/disappeared? or were you told by 'them' to knock it off yourself? i'm assuming the former?

thanks again for your courage

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

With the controllers hovering over me I had to press the delete thread button. They choose simpler methods, they could have simply deleted from remote access but they enjoy the extra pain of seeing a great deal of work done by many, deleted by the individual involved. They are sick b*******

[enemyofNWO]

Hi Barry --i'd watched a number of the Bases videos in the past, incl yours -- just checked them out again from your link, & learned that all the interviews started w/yours -- thanks for coming out w/the truth & opening a way for others to share theirs

my question for you: at the beginning of this thread, you stated that the last one was taken down by 'them' -- it's not clear to me: Was the thread knocked off/disappeared? or were you told by 'them' to knock it off yourself? i'm assuming the former?

thanks again for your courage

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

Greetings wynderer . You can still read the thread in question if you want .
Cheers

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4106

[WinterWolf]

Hello, Watcher! I just thought I'd drop in and say, "Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year!"

I hope your health has much improved. For some reason, I got the feeling you were sick or out of sorts.

Keep plugging away and something will happen.


Winter Wolf

[wynderer]

Thanks for the link, EnemyofNWO -- i'm working my way thru -- more thanks to Barry for answering so many questions -- giving us his knowledge, time, & energy

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

[THEWATCHER]

Christmas will be coming a day or two late for the King household. At around 8.30pm Xmas eve my daughter Debbie collapsed, was rushed to hospital by ambulance. My wife Pat went with her and I followed in my car. We have just returned after almost 24 full hours at her bedside. She is home now and will require our utmost care. The usual Xmas day scheduke will be postponed for us. It will be full blown Xmas dinner either tomorrow or next day, and the giving of Xmas presents later. We did not get a chance to wrap even one single gift this year yet. I'm not as young as I used to be and thus a full 24 hour stint at hospital bedside has just about done my system in LOL. Will try and rest now as others around are. Wishing you all a belated Merry Christmas guys

[ExhaLatioN]

That is sad news Barry, I know everything will turn out fine. Blessings to you and your family.

[Fredkc]

Barry;
My prayers for you and your family, and best wishes that, whatever has come along, you and your family can out shine it, and it falls away.

Fred

[Kre8ive Lady]

Barry, I am sorry to hear about your daughter. I hope she feels better soon.

That was very thoughtful of you to leave us a message considering everything you are going through right now. Thank you!

Sending Love and Light your way! :original:

[Kari Lynn]

Hope you, your wife, and especially your daughter are resting up.
Happy Belated Christmas when you finally are rested enough to all handle it.

[Ara]

I hope Debbie recovers swiftly and you and your family enjoy a belated christmas meal. :flowers2:
Take care and don't forget to rest Barry :) Much Love to you all.

[DoctorWho]

That sucks, Barry. Maybe catch a repeat of Doctor Who later on and hopefully things get back on track. Best wishes.
Bill "the Doctor"

[eleni]

I hope your daughter is okay and feeling better! Happy Holidays!

[bosr]

Lots of empathy here Barry, my father is still in intensive care receiving blood after collapsing the day before xmas. Best wishes!

[Kari Lynn]

Seems Christmas this year has been a bit more than just stressful for few people. Wishing you and your father rest, and recovery also, Bosr

[Jacqui D]

Sorry to hear your sad news Barry wishing your daughter gets better soon.
Take it easy and try and get some rest.
best wishes for you and your family lets hope 2010 a little less stressful for you.

[Kre8ive Lady]

I'm sorry to hear about your father bosr. I hope he feels better soon!

Sending Love and Light your way! :original:

[ellie]

Barry blessings, protection and healing surround your precious daughter and family. Sending my best healing thoughts to you and them.

Much love.

[THEWATCHER]

Very many thanks for all the kind caring words and thoughts here, its very much appreciated. Debbie is stabilising but not quite out of the woods yet. We are gradually getting some rest each as we in turn watch over her. We had a quiet Xmas and will be spending next few days quietly recovering. Again, Godbless you all, thankyou

[Agape]

People become adults when they ask for children, and children come to give them back their lessons. If we feel thankful for those lessons, both can grow up.
When you are good they will recover ...

May All Beings be Happy with You


A

[bosr]

Seems Christmas this year has been a bit more than just stressful for few people. Wishing you and your father rest, and recovery also, Bosr

I'm sorry to hear about your father bosr. I hope he feels better soon!

Sending Love and Light your way! :original:

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts. On a positive note my dad should be coming home tomorrow morning.

Sorry Barry, it wasn't my intention to garner attention on your thread. Wishing you and your family the best.

[Starlah]

Happy New Year Barry and Family...hope your all recovering from Christmas Eve.

[THEWATCHER]

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts. On a positive note my dad should be coming home tomorrow morning.

Sorry Barry, it wasn't my intention to garner attention on your thread. Wishing you and your family the best.
no problem, I am happy your Dad is coming home, wish him well, we have experienced a crisis at a most difficult time and pulled thru, both of us

[THEWATCHER]

Happy New Year Barry and Family...hope your all recovering from Christmas Eve.

Thankyou for those kind words, much appreciated, wishing you and everyone here a very Happy New Year 2010

[Kari Lynn]

Hate to overload you with questions right now, but I have been watching alot of TV, UFO hunter, sci-fi investigates, etc...
One guy was talking about UFO's in the bibles of mnay different cultures. And how they left with the promise to return sme far off day. (Aliens)
They've found many aztec sculptures. One showing their king as having come from the sky in a rocket ship. In a suit that looks much like that which our astronauts wear. As well as many other sculptures of ancient astronauts.
The scientists revealed that the king of the Aztecs was about 8 feet tall.
From my religious beliefs, I know of the people of my books were Tall people Maroni was 8 foot tall.
And then these people just disappeared from the face of the earth. Scientists can't figure out where they went to.
So was wondering if the ancients ever relate to biblical events and cultures they've influenced or been among?

[THEWATCHER]

Hate to overload you with questions right now, but I have been watching alot of TV, UFO hunter, sci-fi investigates, etc...
One guy was talking about UFO's in the bibles of mnay different cultures. And how they left with the promise to return sme far off day. (Aliens)
They've found many aztec sculptures. One showing their king as having come from the sky in a rocket ship. In a suit that looks much like that which our astronauts wear. As well as many other sculptures of ancient astronauts.
The scientists revealed that the king of the Aztecs was about 8 feet tall.
From my religious beliefs, I know of the people of my books were Tall people Maroni was 8 foot tall.
And then these people just disappeared from the face of the earth. Scientists can't figure out where they went to.
So was wondering if the ancients ever relate to biblical events and cultures they've influenced or been among?

hi Kari, no problem. Throughout our known history we have been monitored and at times guided, rightfully or wrongfully, by certain OPI. Many cultures depict star travellers, sky people, etc, its a global watch over all the planet but more advanced civilisations received the sky people and interacted with them. Our varying cultures have been influenced to degrees by these visitors, and as we see in certain ancient text some of these sky people were at war with one another. Without wishing to appear anti religious or blasphemous I am sure certain events depicted in the bible are interpretations of OPI influence on mankind.

[Kari Lynn]

Hmm, that has me thinking. lol
More civilized cultures, than even our own right now perhaps?

It makes me wonder the ancient civilizations our archetechs look into. We used to look at them as primitive. Without electricity, running water, etc... thinking that we are more advanced then they, but when thinking on that. What is left after a few thousand years to show what they've accomplished? Certainly wires, metals, etc... go back to the earth. So all we do have to judge a civilization on, is by what they manage to crudely scribe into stone. That's really the only thing that can stand the test of time. So makes me wonder how much more civilized than we, were they?
And where did these whole cultures just disappear to? Did they perhaps have craft and leave the earth? Could the aliens of now, be the decendents of these cultures?

[THEWATCHER]

I would recommend researching as deep as you can the Australian aborigine 'Dreamtime'............few clues there

[Kari Lynn]

This?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamtime

[Kari Lynn]

The creation was believed to be the work of culture heroes who in the creative epoch travelled across a formless land, creating sacred sites and significant places of interest in their travels.
This sounds familiar.

[THEWATCHER]

This?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamtime

Thats a start but deeper research will reveal the contact they had with visitors from the skies during this 'dreamtime'

[ellie]

Your right Barry. I always said before that if we could truly see the skies with our normal vision it would be like another planet with truly amazing craft coming and going here, there and everywhere.

Prediction Barry: As we go through 2010 and on there will be more everyday people that will be encountering the good alien guys. They will get information that will help in the future. It wont be like the intruder type scenario or floating through windows. It will be more like two normal friends meeting if you can see where I am going with this.

[Kari Lynn]

Aha! This! http://hubpages.com/hub/skypeople


and this? http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/rexufo/abductions.shtml

[Kari Lynn]

Your right Barry. I always said before that if we could truly see the skies with our normal vision it would be like another planet with truly amazing craft coming and going here, there and everywhere.

Prediction Barry: As we go through 2010 and on there will be more everyday people that will be encountering the good alien guys. They will get information that will help in the future. It wont be like the intruder type scenario or floating through windows. It will be more like two normal friends meeting if you can see where I am going with this.
Actually, if any of what I have considered my spiritual excounters are in actuality, alien encounters instead, that has already happened for me. But not something I wish to talk about further here openly.

Right now I'm sort of searching. I have always put my spritual experiences in a different catagory than paranormal, alien, etc.. type experiences. But that thin line between the two, keeps getting thinner.
I've always attributed my "gifts" as coming from spiritual beings, but now am wondering where these spiritual beings come from?
According to my spiritual teachings, God not only made this Earth and it's inhabitants, and heaven above.
But also Many Earths and Many Adams without number.
So.... Aliens?
Also a family member once told me that God made the hosts of heaven also.
So the angels... aliens?

I'm confused.

[THEWATCHER]

heading in right direction guys:original:

[ellie]

I am away from home at the moment Barry but when I get back I will email you.

Thanks hon. xo

[THEWATCHER]

okey dokey:original:

[Jacqui D]

Could our ancestors come from the stars "Most definitely" no other explanation.

some interesting links;


http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/thoth/index.html

http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/blood/

http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/crossingover/index.html

http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/origins/index.html

this is a link regarding DNA splicing quite interesting.


http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/food/index.html

[THEWATCHER]

:thumb_yello:Could our ancestors come from the stars "Most definitely" no other explanation.

some interesting links;


http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/thoth/index.html

http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/blood/

http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/crossingover/index.html

http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/origins/index.html

this is a link regarding DNA splicing quite interesting.


http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/food/index.html
:thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

[Kari Lynn]

Perhaps Barry, we could speak of instead, your time line, and when you were two. I'm sure people would like to hear more of that?

[THEWATCHER]

Perhaps Barry, we could speak of instead, your time line, and when you were two. I'm sure people would like to hear more of that?
I can resume my timeline if thats what people wish certainly, lets see what response we get here..............

[Kari Lynn]

actually I think there may even be a few questions that still need answered here, too.
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[THEWATCHER]

actually I think there may even be a few questions that still need answered here, too.
http://www.animationgold.com/blink_angel.gif

Thats not too surprising, I do get forgetful at times, if anyone has unanswered questions please simply repost them, a good slap usually gets my attention LOL

[Kari Lynn]

Oh, okay, you twisted my arm!
this one, I don't recall an answer to, and I was kind of curious myself.

Thanks for answering my questions Barry, i feel many will know this info regarding elders/custodians/ there is a lot of knowledge out there just like to define which is which, so in your eyes some of the greys are benevolent because they do get a pretty dumb deal by most.
That has put things in perspective for me.
Can you tell me are the greys a race with consciousness and are they recognised as a race from original source if there are good greys out there i would guess they were but like all races there are good and bad in all. I read somewhere that the greys just want to be recognised as a race of there own.
Also when you said at the age of two you were pulled back (my words) can't remember what you actually said now but was a higher self brought forward then perhaps one of these elders?
Are you a guardian/elder/custodian, this is why the artefact had to be augmentated because you now reside in a human body.
And may i ask have you been brought forward from the future to be here at this time?
Which in itself gives questions that a possible end time scenario could be played out so much so that it was felt these elders should be here.
The name with which you use for your avatar says it all really i know but i am interested in these elders/higher beings can you tell us more about the guardians if possible, you have mentioned seeding planets yes and being watchers over them, do we have a name then of the original elders i'm digging i know i am trying to get this all correct.

[ellie]

Kari-Lynn, hope you dont mind me butting in Barry, but there are many different thoughts on greys. Some believe that they are our future ourselves who have come back to try and change their future.

Some say they are the droids of the reptilians or other ETs. People have them working alongside humans in the Dulce labs. There are so many different theories out there it actually makes my head spin.

I do have a theory as far as most abductees seeing these guys and that is they only got to see them as abductees because tptb did make an agreement with them in exchange for knowledge. In other words we got sold out..............as per usual...............bartered.

But even before I logged on here as a member and saw a thread on how to stop abductions in their tracks I told my adult kids that if they ever found themselves in that situation to call on my favourite Archangel St Michael or Jesus or angels. See I am spiritual and believe in them as well as the other stuff.

Hope you don't mind Barry hon, spirit just moved to speak to Kari-Lynn.:lol3:

[THEWATCHER]

Okey Dokey, get round to answering these shortly............

[THEWATCHER]

Kari-Lynn, hope you dont mind me butting in Barry, but there are many different thoughts on greys. Some believe that they are our future ourselves who have come back to try and change their future.

Some say they are the droids of the reptilians or other ETs. People have them working alongside humans in the Dulce labs. There are so many different theories out there it actually makes my head spin.

I do have a theory as far as most abductees seeing these guys and that is they only got to see them as abductees because tptb did make an agreement with them in exchange for knowledge. In other words we got sold out..............as per usual...............bartered.

But even before I logged on here as a member and saw a thread on how to stop abductions in their tracks I told my adult kids that if they ever found themselves in that situation to call on my favourite Archangel St Michael or Jesus or angels. See I am spiritual and believe in them as well as the other stuff.

Hope you don't mind Barry hon, spirit just moved to speak to Kari-Lynn.:lol3:

don't mind at all, will respond to this too shortly

[Kari Lynn]

Kari-Lynn, hope you dont mind me butting in Barry, but there are many different thoughts on greys. Some believe that they are our future ourselves who have come back to try and change their future.

Some say they are the droids of the reptilians or other ETs. People have them working alongside humans in the Dulce labs. There are so many different theories out there it actually makes my head spin.

I do have a theory as far as most abductees seeing these guys and that is they only got to see them as abductees because tptb did make an agreement with them in exchange for knowledge. In other words we got sold out..............as per usual...............bartered.

But even before I logged on here as a member and saw a thread on how to stop abductions in their tracks I told my adult kids that if they ever found themselves in that situation to call on my favourite Archangel St Michael or Jesus or angels. See I am spiritual and believe in them as well as the other stuff.

Hope you don't mind Barry hon, spirit just moved to speak to Kari-Lynn.:lol3:
Thanks Ellie,
I have almost no experiences with aliens that would be considered typical greys, reptiles. I have one recalled memory of a reptile reaching it's arm inside a tube for me. Of course, I was terrified of it. trying to avoid it.
But I'm not sure it's a real memory or planted or what. It's just something odd and out of place.
I've seen many UFOs and in 2006, even saw one landed in the farm field between my neighbors house and mine. It was so huge, that I could litterally see the roof of the neighbors house from under the belly of the craft. I went in my house, locked all the doors, crawled under the covers, and promptly fell asleep.
If I am an alien abductie, they're really good at keeping me memory free.
Most of the abduction I have a memory of, and marks, bruises, broken bones and such, were milabs. And even that landed craft, I'm not so sure it wasn't a military vehicle, instead of a UFO. Like a black triangle or something. I couldn't really see it, as it gave off such light in my direction, like stadium lights, that all I could see of the craft was the sillouette of it. It was HUGE!

[ellie]

Thanks Ellie,
I have almost no experiences with aliens that would be considered typical greys, reptiles. I have one recalled memory of a reptile reaching it's arm inside a tube for me. Of course, I was terrified of it. trying to avoid it.
But I'm not sure it's a real memory or planted or what. It's just something odd and out of place.
I've seen many UFOs and in 2006, even saw one landed in the farm field between my neighbors house and mine. It was so huge, that I could litterally see the roof of the neighbors house from under the belly of the craft. I went in my house, locked all the doors, crawled under the covers, and promptly fell asleep.
If I am an alien abductie, they're really good at keeping me memory free.
Most of the abduction I have a memory of, and marks, bruises, broken bones and such, were milabs. And even that landed craft, I'm not so sure it wasn't a military vehicle, instead of a UFO. Like a black triangle or something. I couldn't really see it, as it gave off such light in my direction, like stadium lights, that all I could see of the craft was the sillouette of it. It was HUGE!

You know with everything I intuitively get, researched etc I have never seen an actual ufo I have to say, but that doesn't mean I dont know their there as well as my protectors because when I call on them they have Never let me down.

Your experience is sending signals to me about what this was. If ever anything remotely like this happens again remember the thread on here about how to protect yourself and use it.....................it Will work Kari-Lynn, it will work my love.

[bosr]

I can resume my timeline if thats what people wish certainly, lets see what response we get here..............

Yes, please continue.

[Kari Lynn]

You know with everything I intuitively get, researched etc I have never seen an actual ufo I have to say, but that doesn't mean I dont know their there as well as my protectors because when I call on them they have Never let me down.Oh yes, I do have spiritual beings that protect me. I've felt them. Didn't mean to sound like I didn't believe. lol.

Your experience is sending signals to me about what this was. If ever anything remotely like this happens again remember the thread on here about how to protect yourself and use it.....................it Will work Kari-Lynn, it will work my love.I was certainly praying that night. rofl. I've no idea if anything happened. No memory only of seeing the craft there in the field.
It was probably about a little after 11 pm. I saw my hubby off to work, and then while still outside, putting stuff away I noticed it out in the field. Look at it intently trying to figure out what it was, when I realized it wasn't anything a farmer would have that could possibly be that big, I ran for the house. lol. I'm such a big chicken. Sometimes I wish I had been brave enough to walk up to it.
It was half way between my house and the neighbors house, which is about 300 yrds, so was probably about 150 to 200 yds from me. It was about the length of a foot ball field, so probably 100 yds and as I said, it stood up tall enough that I could look under the belly of it, and see the neighbors roof! That's when I realized it couldn't possibly be any sort of farm machinery. There's nothing that tall! lol.
I don't even know of any military planes I've seen that stand up that high on legs. Unless this new top secret triangle and such does. ?

[ExhaLatioN]

[QUOTE=Kari Lynn] I've no idea if anything happened. No memory only of seeing the craft there in the field.
It was probably about a little after 11 pm. I saw my hubby off to work, and then while still outside, putting stuff away I noticed it out in the field. Look at it intently trying to figure out what it was, when I realized it wasn't anything a farmer would have that could possibly be that big, I ran for the house. lol. I'm such a big chicken. Sometimes I wish I had been brave enough to walk up to it.

sometimes you have to be brave and not listen to the voice that tells you to run. trigger your anger inside you and dont let anyone invade your private space. we are all powerful gods so dont let anyone push you around.
fear is one tricky booger, just when you think you have it undercontrolled.

it finds a way out..........

[Jacqui D]

It's kinda of scary Kari love i know when you see these things and i know how you felt believe me.
I have seen ufo's since i was 7 years of age frightened me then being so young these were the cigar shape ones.
The last big one i saw was in the early 80's first of it's kind and now i know it was military, black triangle stelph type vehicle, if only i knew then what i know now.
What i don't understand today is they have the ability to cloak themselves so why do they bother being visible to people there has been a lot of sightings over the past few years.
The only answer i have come up with is that they want us to know, the more people that see them the more people believe.
You mentioned Kari you wanted to go asleep Hm! well this is a form of mind control dear,the same when some start talking about these things, you get no response or they start falling asleep on you i have noticed this a lot. When i talk to my hubby i have to say to him, stay awake this important because if i don't remember this you will have to. But more than once he's gone!!!

[Kari Lynn]

Yes, fear is quite often how they have controlled me in past events. It's quite effective. Works well with armies, masses of people, etc... Hard to get a handle on sometimes. My instinct is fear and flight. But when cornered I do fight. Hence the broken shoulder, broken toes, bruises, etc........ I gotta learn to quit stabbing myself in the foot! Maybe wear steel toed shoes to bed! ROFL.

It wasn't so much that I wanted to go to sleep, as it was bed time, and I crawled under for self protection. I didn't really think I would be able to go to sleep, because I was so scared, but I was out like a light switch flipped.

I sort of have the feeling it was military. Triangle maybe. Not sure though, as I said all I could see was a big black sillouette and blinding lights pointed my direction. Lighting the entire area up like day light. Funny no else in the neighborhood saw it.
But it was HUGE. Bigger than a stealth bomber even. Perhaps it was a little of both? Alien and Military. ?

Gotta run to town. Got paid! lol.
back later. KariLynn

[THEWATCHER]

A very Happy New Year is wished to all from The Watcher

[sunflower]

And a Happy New Year back to you, Barry. Best wishes and perfect health for all the members of the King family in 2010.

[Kari Lynn]

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HAPPY NEW YEAR!

I've got almost 3 hours before my new year!

[THEWATCHER]

Happy New Year 2010

[Kari Lynn]

Hi Barry,
So what do the PTB have in mind for 2010?

[no caste]

I believe I briefly mentioned the reasons behind the 5 earlier in the other thread. Since age 2 when I died and was brought back, but not as before, if you get my drift, it has been destined for me to be part of an OPI long term plan to protect this planet or blow it away depending on certain circumstances. I am one of the 5. The other 4 reside in USA, Russia, India and Australia. James is not connected to the 5 in any way but might have different connections in a different manner. The 5 in turn will produce 5 more as the cycle turns. There will always be 5. I cannot say too much here but certain events and procedures took place during July to September last year which was directly connected with 5 furthering 5 more. I'm itching to say but am instructed not to at this time. You are a very kind warm hearted and compassionate Lady, you have a good heart which I appreciate and thankyou for. Your support and kind words here help a great deal, helping myself and no doubt James too thru the darkness we travel.

Hi Watcher -

Is it possible that this is a part of programming - 'You are one in 5' - the emphasis and importance of protecting 5 artifacts? It would (as a self-sustaining meme) be an 'end game' goal, i.e. if not you then others, to manifest certain results.

It justifies the actions of certain individuals and seems to be a ruse. It makes people DO what they otherwise might not want to, an idea to act on, i.e. a '5 artifact' mental aide.

Had to ask - and Happy New Year. Hope all is well with the family.

[THEWATCHER]

Be back on track with answering questions and posting further data as soon as can. Still having some medical probs at home and chaotic sleeping patterns all round. Thankyou all for your kind patience

[Kari Lynn]

Hi
Was wondering...... okay have to set up scenario.
When I went to hospital few times for surgery through out my life, I'm such a big chicken.
Most every single time, the anesthesiologist would stroke my hair at forehead or temple.
So I was thinking that must be some part of their medical training, to keep patients calm. (works on me every time. lol)
And then in talking about Milabs and such, few of us recall such calming effects being applied in milabs, and rv's and such.
So....... was wondering if operatives of such programs, black ops, milabs, psy-ops who come in contact with milab victims, etc.....
are trained such touches to calm also.
Not sure if it would be called same thing, but when thinking of it on training my horses. It's called the T-Touch.
It also works on Animals! lol.

[THE eXchanger]

Happy New Year 2010

HAPPY NEW YEAR to YOU ~ what direction do you believe things will take in 2010 ???

[Agape]

HAPPY NEW YEAR to YOU ~ what direction do you believe things will take in 2010 ???

Try new direction if you want to call New Year ?

Else why..:lmao:

Best regards and wishes Susan

Disclosure Unit is on holidays .

Only i am working ..

A

[THE eXchanger]

Try new direction if you want to call New Year ?

Else why..:lmao:

Best regards and wishes Susan

Disclosure Unit is on holidays .

Only i am working ..

A yes, AGAPE, always works ;)

[THEWATCHER]

Regarding events of Xmas eve. After what looked like slow but sure recovery we find ourselves again with this medical emergency. But there is a twist which tags onto the current situation which I cannot post here until some sort of verification has been obtained. Only placing this here as insurance and that a few trusted individuals will receive an email from me re this evenings events. This statement is purely for the record should things turn more darker. Sorry to be cryptic but no choice. Barry

[eleni]

I'm sorry to hear this......I hope it gets better for you in your house and a speedy recovery.

That said.....they are targeting people lately.........I also can't say much but I was targeted on New Years Eve along with a few other people heavily *involved*.

We did get some kind of verification along those lines.......in my case I was alone NYE and a copter made a beeline for my bedroom whilst I was in bed.....
This copter was fitted with a semi circuclar group of infra red lights.......
We feel that psychotronics were directed at us........

I had been on the phone with 2 whistleblowers for several hours prior........

Just before I was targeted- they were emailing me to tell me to watch out -
needless to say we were all heavily targeted and I've been quite ill since
(so have they).

I was also given information pertaining to an *event* that is a red flag operation- similar to 911........coming down the pike.........

[THEWATCHER]

Brief update. Home 20 now sealed and secured from any possible outside EM interference, be it human or technology. team suggested various security measures to be upped from previous levels, all complied with. Secondary target was about to fall but effects subsiding since measures put in place. Primary target recovering slowly. The less actual data I post concerning this matter the safer it will be. Thankyou for your patience.