"Breaking: Entire Nation of Ukraine Under Armed Quarantine-Entire Nation Shut Down"

[Seashore]

This is an unconfirmed story. It is posted on the blog which is associated with Dr Bill Deagle.

"THIS JUST IN
Reports from the Ukraine..
============ ========= ========= ========= ====

"The entire nation of Ukraine is under quarantine by the World Health Organization and by their own Ukrainian government. No one is allowed to enter the nation, and no one is allowed to leave. All transportation in or out has been grounded. All border crossings are closed and heavily guarded. All schools in the country are closed. Most businesses are shut down. No large gatherings of people are permitted. Only medically necessary and government vehicles are permitted on the streets. People are generally confined to their homes. Not a word of what is happening is being printed or reported on by the news media. There is a complete news blackout. And people are dying by the hundreds every day. A few bodies are being buried when possible. Most are being burned. Almost everyone in the country is wearing masks or bandanas over their faces for protection. The disease is highly contagious and thousands of new cases are occurring daily."

Here is the link:

http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/breaking-entire-nation-of-ukraine-under-armed-quarantine-entire-nation-shut-down/

[morguana]

Thank you seashore, it was only a matter of time.
I will try to find out as much info as poss, my ex has a friend he works with who is from the Ukraine.
Off to make a phone call....
Bou x
Ps told my folks and friends about this, they took the news seriously, and are getting ready for when it spreads

[mudra]

This was posted on the 30th of october

http://www.reuters.com/article/americasCrisis/idUSLU580549

Searching for more infos and contacted some friends who may help.

The sites I found making the same announcement as yours Seashore were all doom and gloom sites ( " Doom daily " and " Weird news ") so we need to look into this very carefully before buying it .

Love Always
mudra

[mudra]

Quarantine ?

http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entries/posendek/1/1257078604/tpod.html

Love Always
mudra

[viking]

Just a note ... I spoke to one of my freinds in Slovakia (border Ukraine) the other day and he had said trhat it's all over blown info...!!

PTW ramping up??!!

I don't know...

viking

[TruthWillSetUFree]

The good thing is we are Discerning info before we accept it as Truth!

[Seashore]

Alex Studer is the blogger who posted the story. Here is his reply to the question about where he got the story:

"I have not gotten confirmation on this, but it comes to me from a VERY trusted source."

I will follow up for updates, which I'm sure he will post.

Have members read this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17630

[mudra]

video : Ukraine in panic over swine flu

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16094

There is sure a lot of money to be made by some with these swine flu panics .

Love Always
mudra

[mudra]

These are the latest news minute to minute in Russia
http://en.rian.ru/exsoviet/20091120/156916906.html


The death toll from the ongoing flu epidemic in Ukraine has reached 354 since the start of October, the country's health ministry said on Friday.
The ministry said over 1.54 million people have been infected since the outbreak began.
The number of officially confirmed swine flu deaths in the country has reached 17, with 255 people infected.
Earlier, 328 flu deaths were reported across the country, with a total of 1.46 million people infected. There were 15 swine flu deaths registered in the country as of November 18, with 166 people infected.
Ukrainian health officials say the situation has stabilized, and that quarantine measures imposed by the government in nine western provinces in late October in an attempt to curb the spread of flu may be lifted by the end of the week.
In early November, Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) chief, Raisa Bohatyryova, said there were "constitutional prerequisites" for a state of emergency amid the flu epidemic.
A state of emergency could delay the presidential election scheduled for January 17, 2010 until May.
Ukraine's Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has said she sees no need for such measures.
The Ukrainian parliament has approved the allocation of 1 billion hryvnias ($125 million) for measures to fight swine and seasonal flu.
However, President Viktor Yushchenko, who earlier requested help from other countries to stem the flu outbreak, has not signed the allocation plan, saying it would accelerate inflation and cause a decline in Ukraine's standard of living.
Yulia Tymoshenko said the president's refusal to allocate money would impede governmental efforts to fight the epidemic.
Yushchenko and Tymoshenko, as well as Party of Regions leader and former premier Viktor Yanukovych, who lost the previous vote to Yushchenko following the 2004 "orange revolution" are among the 16 candidates to run in the Ukrainian presidential election.
KIEV, November 20 (RIA Novosti)

Love Always
mudra

[Seashore]

There is sure a lot of money to be made by some with these swine flu panics .

I think we should not be distracted from verification of the story.

We should also be focusing on pushing for what the government should be doing.

Have members read this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=189680#post189680

[mudra]

By all means I agree seashore .. Finding the truth is what counts .

Love Always
mudra

I think we should not be distracted from verification of the story.

We should also be focusing on pushing for what the government should be doing.

Have members read this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=189680#post189680

[morguana]

Just checked WHOs website, no mention of alarming news from Ukraine,
So.....plod on as usual
Bou x

[burgundia]

If all this was true some people in Poland would know. There are many who have close ties with Ukraine...And it would greatly affect a variety of businesses...so use A LO OF discernment here...

[Seashore]

Just checked WHOs website, no mention of alarming news from Ukraine,
So.....plod on as usual
Bou x

I disagree.

The WHO cannot be trusted.

[Seashore]

If all this was true some people in Poland would know. There are many who have close ties with Ukraine...And it would greatly affect a variety of businesses...so use A LO OF discernment here...

I know you will keep us posted...

[Seashore]

Here is Alex Studer's blog post about the gene sequence info released by the WHO on the 18th:

http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/dr-henry-l-niman-on-renseradio-discussing-the-whos-partial-release-of-gene-sequence-information-on-the-new-ukraine-viral-bioweapon-outbreak/

[Jacqui D]

I think we are going to see a lot more of this media posting because the swine flu agenda has not gone how TPTB wanted it to.
Today in the UK on morning breakfast news channel they are upping the agenda to get the age 1/4's inoculated, people are actually ringing in asking if the flu jab would be okay to be done at the same time as the child has the MMR jab!!!!! come on you people wake up!!!
Our poor kiddies are going through s....t lately with all these jabs.
But this is now serious if they are pushing for this age group to be done.
A lot of pregnant woman are refusing saying they do not know what this jab can do to there un born child.
People must stick to their beliefs do not get it done all we can do is keep pushing that word out NO! i think with so many on the internet these days this information has got out there with all the videos out on you tube etc people are starting to take notice. I hope so i really do!

[Seashore]

I disagree.

The WHO cannot be trusted.

When I say this, I mean that the United Nations, which of course WHO is a part of, is a major conduit for the New World Order agenda.

[Seashore]

"I have not gotten confirmation on this, but it comes to me from a VERY trusted source."

It is possible that this source has been tricked by the disinfo agents tasked with discrediting Dr Deagle.

[Northern Boy]

I think Beagle does that all by himself no disinfo agents required with him

[Seashore]

I think Beagle does that all by himself no disinfo agents required with him

I don't appreciate the sarcasm.

If you are a Deagle-hater, how about starting a separate thread so people can post on-topic.

[Seashore]

Please, members, stay on track verifying the story in the opening post.

[Jack]

Ohhh no. We better get our vaccines quick before we get it too!

17 deaths confirmed to be swine flu.. out of 354? This is hocus pocus at its wildest. Ive seen how they diagnose swine flue.

Here are all the symptoms you need.

*Cough
*Runny nose
*Sore throat

Doctors all over the place are diagnosing these symptoms which are remarkably similar to the common cold as swine flu.

This would have made Hitler so proud.

[Seashore]

Ohhh no. We better get our vaccines quick before we get it too!

17 deaths confirmed to be swine flu.. out of 354? This is hocus pocus at its wildest. Ive seen how they diagnose swine flue.

Here are all the symptoms you need.

*Cough
*Runny nose
*Sore throat

Doctors all over the place are diagnosing these symptoms which are remarkably similar to the common cold as swine flu.

This would have made Hitler so proud.

I'm encouraged by signs I see of the public wising up about the lies and deception, but what worries me is forced vaccinations or "voluntary with consequences," meaning things like your social security check will discontinue if you refuse, as a hypothetical.

[Seashore]

A regular guest on Dr Deagle's radio program is Tim Alexander, aka Lord Stirling of Evansville, Illinois, U.S.

Mr Alexander's blog reports the following, with a link to another blog which in turn links to a Google translation of the information from the Ministry of Health of Ukraine, evidently:

"Latest Official Figures ~ Ukrainian Plague:
1,540,514 Sick; 88,744 Hospitalized; 354 Dead (not believable); 58,143 Released from hospitals. Date: 11/19/09"

Here's the link to Alexander's blog:

http://europebusines.blogspot.com/

[Jack]

So as this stands the odd of dying from swine flu is - 8,000,000/1


You have a better chance of gettin eaten by a goat while being struck by lightening while your sitting on the popes head. Or something close.

Just to put things into perspective ;

The odds of death by falling are 250/1
The odds of death by firearm : 325/1
The odds of death by poison : 1,400/1
The odds of death by drowning : 9,000/1
The odds of death by murder : 20,000/1
The odds of death by lightning : 71,000/1
The odds of death by dog attack : 137,000/1
The odds of death in the bathtub : 807,000/1
The odds of death by a flood : 713,000/1
The odds of death by falling out of bed : 2,000,000/1
The odds of being killed in a terrorist WMD attack : 6,000,000/1
The odds of being eaten by a goat while being struck by lightening while your sitting on the popes head : 7,500,000/1
The odds of being killed by swine flu- 8,000,000/1

[Seashore]

You have a better chance of gettin eaten by a goat while being struck by lightening while your sitting on the popes head. Or something close.

That's right.

And vaccines are dangerous.

Even if there were a greater chance of dying of the swine flu, the vaccine wouldn't prevent it. The vaccine can cause it.

Vaccines are dangerous - because of the toxins that are in them and the diseases that they cause.

[Jonah]

Please, members, stay on track verifying the story in the opening post.

Careful Seashore....

Someone elses opinion may seem sarcastic to you, but respect should be given regardless.

this whole thread seems a bit jumpy if you ask me....best to keep a clear mind before reacting emotionally....:wink2:

[Seashore]

Careful Seashore....

Someone elses opinion may seem sarcastic to you, but respect should be given regardless.

this whole thread seems a bit jumpy if you ask me....best to keep a clear mind before reacting emotionally....:wink2:

I don't think the wink is appropriate.

[Seashore]

Alex Studer has posted this follow-up (http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/breaking-entire-nation-of-ukraine-under-armed-quarantine-entire-nation-shut-down/):

"IS THE ENTIRE NATION OF UKRAINE UNDER ARMED QUARANTINE – ENTIRE NATION SHUT DOWN???

[OK folks, so far as far as the comments received here go, people seem to be saying the following is NOT TRUE. Again, I haven't received any confirmation of this myself, and my intent in posting it here is to determine whether or not it is true, and to find out the status of things in the Ukraine with regard to this new outbreak. All who have any information who can contribute to this discussion please do so by commenting below. Thanks. -ed]"

I see he has 16 comments, which you can read by clicking on the link. You may be able to add to the comments; I'm not sure about that.

[Seashore]

Here is a significant exchange of comments:

"Ryan said,

November 20, 2009 at 3:46 pm

I am in kiev right now and have been for two weeks. We are not under an armed quarantine nor have we been. In fact the official quarantine that had been on political gatherings and large gatherings was canceled and things are totally normal her.
Reply

*
labvirus said,

November 20, 2009 at 3:54 pm

Your IP address definitely shows that you are in the Ukraine. Thanks for your comment!"

Of course "labvirus" is Alex Studer.

The link: http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/breaking-entire-nation-of-ukraine-under-armed-quarantine-entire-nation-shut-down/

[Seashore]

Here is another comment:

"Chris said,

November 21, 2009 at 5:25 am

I’m a US ex-pat living in Odessa on Ukraine’s south coast. It’s on the north end of the Black Sea. We are not in any armed lockdown or Martial Law. Except that many people wear surgical masks in public, or a high-collar sweater or scarf over their nose & mouth, everything is normal. Normal pedestrian & vehicular traffic.

There IS (has been) a quarantine of all state-run schools; primary, secondary and university level. It was for 3 weeks. The quarantine expires in 2 days — on Monday, 23 November. Students that I know are set to return to school.

There has been word that students should resume classes on Tuesday. Meanwhile, they should standby for an update. That is a bit curious and odd.

Residents bought up all the popular flu remedies except for garlic (renewable) which has tripled in price. In pharmacies (micro pharmacies compared to the US) you can buy almost everything over-the-counter. It is true that in Ukraine you need no doctor’s prescription 90% or more of the time. People here self medicate. Pretty much walk into a pharmacy and buy what you want. And pharmacies are plentiful.

Local news reports in late October (depending on which report) said 20-33 people died in the L’vov/Chernovtsy region which is in western Ukraine. If there is a best region here to conduct limited release & testing of biologic weaponry, and try to contain it and conduct a dubiously controlled spreading to other cities, that is the only region in Ukraine to do so. All other population centers are too tightly networked geographically and by commerce & travel.

People here say 2 things:
1) flu afflictions and deaths seem the same as always for flu season
2) this flu epidemic is political grandstanding by yushenko (president and puppet of Western global elitists) and tymoshenko (prime minister and quite power crazy). Ukrainians dislike both and trust neither.

But they say so with a caveat. They know something is happening regarding the “pig flu” (where there’s smoke, there’s fire), but they don’t know exactly what because their media is as bad as US mainstream propagandists."

_______________________________________________

I thought it would be helpful for us to have a map of Ukraine.

http://i35.tinypic.com/nluzns.gif

[burgundia]

Thank you seashore. This is probabaly the most reasonable news about swine flu in Ukraine.
BTW- Steven Quayle in his interview on C2C claims that 20% of Norwegians are infected with the new virus, which is ridiculous ....

[Seashore]

Thank you seashore. This is probabaly the most reasonable news about swine flu in Ukraine.
BTW- Steven Quayle in his interview on C2C claims that 20% of Norwegians are infected with the new virus, which is ridiculous ....

burgundia,

Have you read this new opening post? I would be interested in your perspective on it...

[burgundia]

There are so many contradictory statements regarding the swine flu and deaths apparently caused by it or further complications. Some reprts say the victims' lungs were burnt and black, some say not. I do not think people at large know much about the details. If it is a bioweapon, it maybe something new to any scientist or a doctor dealing with it. The cases in Poland were as follows: some people died because of the A/H1N1 and for some people it was like a minor cold. Time will tell where it is going to lead us...the big problem is that some people just want to be in the center of attention and they make up stories, ot at least parts of them.

[Humble Janitor]

Since this story isn't 100% true, you should change the title, Seashore.

It's highly misleading and it makes it seem like you are encouraging fear.

[Seashore]

Since this story isn't 100% true, you should change the title, Seashore.

It's highly misleading and it makes it seem like you are encouraging fear.

Hmmm.

It's in the Unconfirmed News Reports sub-forum. The first sentence of the opening post reasserts that.

The title is in quotation marks. Originally, the blog article was titled the same. Then the blogger Alex Studer changed the title of the article to reflect that perhaps the story wasn't true, afterall.

I think it might be wise to leave it alone. People have already responded calmly and constructively to this title and things are progressing nicely. Maybe it's a lesson in handling scary subjects with constructive action.

[Seashore]

New title of the blog article:

"Is the Entire Nation of Ukraine Under Armed Quarantine - Entire Nation Shut Down??? (http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/breaking-entire-nation-of-ukraine-under-armed-quarantine-entire-nation-shut-down/)"

[Humble Janitor]

Sounds fair then. No harm intended.

Just, if I were someone who had never been to this site before, I might be a bit freaked out by such a title. Then again, if people REALLY want to be freaked out, ATS is the king of that.

[Seashore]

If it is a bioweapon, it maybe something new to any scientist or a doctor dealing with it.

The incomplete release of information from the WHO about the gene sequence and confusion over whether or not this still looks like a bio-weapon is the topic of this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17702

I don't understand this part of the story.

[happy]

freedom of speech ,:trumpet:
if people just came with facts or precieved facts , like the man wanted gee look how quick it moves on .
fear , well 90% fatality rate is what the powers to be . our overlords are aiming at , freedom of speech is encouraged .
on ya sunshine . dont stop being aware .
what should we all do to prepare for that and worse .
lets go somewhere with this , because if has not happened . then ask the question why ?
sorry seashore .{sunshine on the seashore with happy}
maybe ya all should go and see what kerry has posted hm .
we are humans becoming help us to become .
this is our earth let us show we are capable of running it .
be happy
earths blessings

[Seashore]

freedom of speech ,:trumpet:
if people just came with facts or precieved facts , like the man wanted gee look how quick it moves on .
fear , well 90% fatality rate is what the powers to be . our overlords are aiming at , freedom of speech is encouraged .
on ya sunshine . dont stop being aware .
what should we all do to prepare for that and worse .
lets go somewhere with this , because if has not happened . then ask the question why ?
sorry seashore .{sunshine on the seashore with happy}
maybe ya all should go and see what kerry has posted hm .
we are humans becoming help us to become .
this is our earth let us show we are capable of running it .
be happy
earths blessings

happy,

I'm a little bit confused about what you are saying. Why did you say "sorry, seashore"? Sorry for what?

What post of Kerry's are you referring to?

[Seashore]

What post of Kerry's are you referring to?

You must be referring to this (http://www.projectcamelot.org/):

23 November 2009

• A source is sending us photos of chemtrails seen this weekend in the skies over Chicago area.. stating that this amount of activity appeared to be much worse than previously seen...

They included various photos including this one showing what they labeled as 9 visible chemtrails at once:

http://www.projectcamelot.org/ChemTrailsUnbelieveable!.JPG

[They wrote: "I live in a visible path of commercial aircraft that land at Chicago O'Hare. No commercial aircraft came through my sight today during these chemtrails (11:00 am - 4:00 pm Central Standard Time). The commercial aircraft have been put back on their regular paths in my sight since about 6:00 pm today. It appeared that these chemtrails started south of Chicago at an unknown earlier time and finished in my sight around Milwaukee, WI around 5:00 pm, from my view. FYI"].

They are concerned in case this may be a precursor in spreading the virus. We are posting this for the record at this time in case other reports begin to surface around the U.S. and rest of the world of unusual escalation of chemtrail activity prior to any future outbreaks.

***********************************************
I support Kerry in making the decision to post this for the record. Now others have been alerted and can help piece things together.

***********************************************

[Seashore]

You must be referring to this (http://www.projectcamelot.org/):

23 November 2009

• A source is sending us photos of chemtrails seen this weekend in the skies over Chicago area..

I have started a new thread for us to discuss what is happening in the U.S.: "Are Chemtrails Increasing in the U.S.?"