Vortex, 19.47 theory/ Sacred Geometry

[BROOK]

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Some important facts about 19.47 degrees in our solar system and here on earth. Do people realize we have this energy field in us and that it exists in everything including every atom and every star or planet? How better can people understand this? How can people understand that what the controllers of this world seek is the control over this energy or our souls? What better ways can this information be relayed to the mass public in benefiting everyone? If everyone can gain control of their energy then these watchers would be hopeless in their campaign of fear.



Research courtesy of Ammit..

Starting with...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir5sQEg0rs4

At 19.47 latitude, there is a string of volcanoes in Hawaii.
But more interestingly: look here (http://www.missionignition.net/she/articles/1947.htm)
It talks about the Sacred Templar Geometry

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Okay this is not a theory of mine as I am not going to put it up yet.
But here is some of the things I found out...

It may be more than coincidence that the Roswell Crash was in 1947 and Nassim Haramein has valid reason to believe that Latitude 19.47 is an extremely important number.
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Cydonia and the pyramids, rests at 19.47' from the equator. On Earth, pyramids are exact at 19.47' north of the equator on the Yucatan peninsula in Mexico. Hawaian pyramids are at 19.47' north of the equator as well.

The earth is 21,600 nautical miles around. This measurement is based on the ratio of 360 x 60 first used by the Phoenicians and still in use by modern ocean and flight navigators.

The number 6,480 is exactly 1/4th of the total 25,920 years it takes earth to complete one circuit through the signs of the zodiac. 6,480 years is unique because it marks the duration between a series of global cataclysms left in earth's historic and geologic record.

When the earth's circumference, 21,600 is divided by 33.33 the number 6,480 appears in a variation:

21,600 / 33.33 = 648.06480648064...

648.06480648064..divided by 19.47, the number suggested by the year of the Roswell crash itself (1947)...produces a modification of 33.33:

648.064806480 / 19.47 = 33.28

...Latitude 33.28°

This latitude, 33.28° multiplied by PI (3.141592653589...) results in a longitude 104.56° ... pinpointing the exact coordinates of the disc impact site near Roswell NM.

Additionally the number 2012 can be calculated with a form of the number of the exact Roswell crash site latitude, 33.28° and the year of the Roswell event itself, 1947:

19.47 x 3.328 = 64.80

Between July 1947 and March 2012 there are 64.80 years.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17117471/Warning-The-Alien-Agenda-Revealed-by-Art-Green-Field

A three dimentional sphere with a 3D pyramid inside it with it's tip aligned to North or South (both ways would create The Star of David) where the base of the pyramid touches the sphere this is latitude 19.47.

More stuff here:
http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/louxsie/cydonrant.html

And here:
http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/louxsie/cydonrant.html


If I have left anything out...please feel free to add from the other thread concerning the vortex , and 19.47 :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

http://witnesswatch.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/campbell-great-seal-of-the-united-states-1271.jpg


On the dollar bill, the great seal of the United States of America displays 12 levels of pyramid from the 1776 foundation level. A perfect 33% of an hour has 19 minutes and 47 seconds (.33 X 60 = 19.8, .8 x 60 = 47). Accordingly, each level of pyramid represents a generation of 19.47 years.

12 x 19.47 = 233.64 years

If you use May 1st, 1776 as the start date of the countdown; you begin to see temporal destiny unfold before your eyes…
In 1776, there were 31 days in January, 29 days in February, 31 days in March and 30 days in April. The sum of days for these months is 121, making May 1st the 122nd day of 1776.

5/1/1776 = day 122

122 / 365 = 0.33 = 33% of 1776

May 1st, 1776 was chosen for more than one reason as a founding date. So now we may calculate the exact end date for the capstone to crown the pyramid…

DRUM ROLL PLEASE…

1776.33 + 233.64 = 2009.97

0.97 X 365 = 354.05 day of 2009

365 – 354 = 11 days before the end of 12/31/09

The 233.64 year countdown from 1776.33 (May 1st or 33%) completes the day of December 20th of 2009!!

Therefore I present you with the Omega Point of the Great Seal Countdown: The Winter Solstice of this year!!

That’s right- 12/21/2009

Exactly 3 years to the day of the ominous and fateful 12/21/2012 -which we also know is a Winter Solstice.

A 3-year period?

It seems 12/21 of this year will be a fateful day, but what does it hold in store for the world?!

I submit to you that this day may be reserved for a King’s Coronation…

http://witnesswatch.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/sunsetpyramid.jpg

[Luminari]

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/SAssum13.jpg

I think I first read about 19.47 in David Wilcock's Shift Of The Ages around 10 years ago.. and Richard Hoagland around that time too, here's a copy of S.O.T.A; http://www.scribd.com/doc/459473/Shift-of-the-Ages-by-David-Wilcock.

Nassim Haramein has of course expounded on it further; http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17338&highlight=nassim

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/doubletet1.gif

[BROOK]

https://www.ahrimangate.com/stargates-large.jpg

Here is an interesting read on Stargates and 19.47

http://www.ahrimangate.com/excerpt162.htm

:thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

There are underwater pyramids in Japan at 19.47 latitude. You generally can’t date pyramids but you can date the carbon on the coral reefs that grow upon them in the water. These are at least 10,000 years old which also matches the meltdown of the last ice age.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/070919-sunken-city_big.jpg

[unlimited mind]

http://hem.passagen.se/sm3gsj/gcm.htm

http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/index.html

thought you might enjoy these :wub2:

[BROOK]

Sun Spots and 19.47

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_w6uR1ccXoqc/SlgJj5iVaSI/AAAAAAAABHc/Sqg0kbwWk7I/s320/1024.jpg
Sunspots appear where the sun becomes very active, usually at the 19.47 degree latitude. Nissam discovered, contrary to prior opinion, that sun spots reflect fire being sucked into a collapsing black hole while emitting steam (H2O). Nissam also noted that multiple sun spots always occur in opposite polarity. When you have a vortex going one way in the Coriolis Effect you have another going on at another point on the opposite side. They generate a link at the middle and that link is the singularity. Sun spots are huge vortices going toward singularity at the center of the black hole. That’s why you see fire being sucked in. What’s being shot out? Water! (steam).

Most telescopes that observe the sun are owned by the VATICAN. There was a video released showing an object at least as big as the earth hitting the sun. The video was called, “Sun gazing comet hits the sun.” Astrophysicists emailed NASA and asked them about this so-called comet because it didn’t have a tail. They wanted to know what it was. NASA pulled the video from the net and later put the video back up, editing in a tail on the “comet”. When analyzed, the stars in the video are going from left to right because of the path the probe is orbiting. Some small white “dots” hit the camera lens but there is clearly one object going toward the sun against the other movements in the video. Then this object takes a 90 degree turn into the sun. “The only comet I know of (that does a 90 degree turn) has little windows in them and little guys waving.” The “comet” entered the sun at 19.47 degrees latitude showing a plasma ejection coming out of the entry spot. A spaceship the size of the earth needs to go into a black hole bigger than their ship size, hence the sun. Smaller ships can come and go through sun spots in the earth such as volcanoes.
:shocked:

http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=18715&print=1

[BROOK]

What I am curious to know is if the Plant Earth is also at 19.47 relative to our own galaxy? :winksmiley02:

How would one determine that? As to the boundries of the galaxy itself....does anyone know if there is a measurment somewhere of that? Maybe NASA has that? :smoke:


I bet if Dantheman saw this he could figure it out...this is right up his alley :naughty:

[Dantheman62]

[QUOTE=BROOK;190711]What I am curious to know is if the Plant Earth is also at 19.47 relative to our own galaxy? :winksmiley02:


I think that would be an always changing number, not a constant.
We're always moving around!





On the Sun: sunspot activity and the region of peak temperatures is limited to 19.5 degreees north and south.

On Venus: the presumably active major volcano complexes Alpha and Beta Regio are near 19.5 degrees.


On Earth:

Mauna Loa, Hawaii (19 degrees 28 minutes N, 155 degrees 37 minutes W) The largest shield volcano is at 19.6 degrees north. This is Mauna-Kea volcano on the island of Hawaii.

Mexico City, Mexico (19 degrees 23 minutes N, 99 degrees 10 minutes W) The Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacan is at 19.6 degrees north.

Dzibalchen, (Yucatan), Mexico (19 degrees 28 minutes N, 89 degrees 46 minutes W)

Georgetown, Grand Cayman Island (19 degrees 18 minutes N, 81 degrees 26 minutes W)

Mount Emi Koussi, Chad, Africa (19 degrees 47 minutes N, 18 degrees 34 minutes E)

Mount Kalsubai, (near Bombay), India (19 degrees 33 minutes N, 73 degrees 43 minutes E)

Mountain near Xiangkhoang, Laos (19 degrees 17 minutes N, 103 degrees 17 minutes E)

Mountain near Potosi, Bolivia (19 degrees 13 minutes S, 66 degrees 22 minutes W)

Yasur Volcano, Tanna Island, Vanuatu (South Pacific Ocean) (19 degrees 31 minutes S, 169 degrees 25 minutes E)

Mount Samuel, Northwest Territory, Australia (19 degrees 13 minutes S, 134 degrees 8 minutes E)

Gweru, Zimbabwe, Africa (19 degrees 31 minutes S, 29 degrees 49 minutes E)




On Mars:

the "vast" Olympus Mons shield cone volcano is at 19.5 degrees.
On Jupiter: the "red spot" which is an obvious vortex is at 19.5 degrees.
On Neptune: in 1986 Voyager II discovered a similar spot at 19.5 degrees north.

Based on Richard Dannelley's book, Sedona: Beyond the Vortex and Bruce Rawles

Why '19.5 degrees' is Significant

19.5 degrees is the angle that's been found by researchers (Richard C. Hoagland, Stanley McDaniel, Erol Torun, Horace W. Crater, etc.) to be repeatedly encoded in the structures of Cydonia.

It is viewed as a definite 'signal in the noise' - some kind of a 'message' left there by some intelligence. 19.5 is called t, the 'tetrahedral constant', because of its significance in tetrahedral geometry (a tetrahedron is a pyramid shape composed of four equilateral triangular sides): the apexes of a tetrahedron when placed within a circumscribing sphere, one of the tetrahedron's apexes touching the north pole, the other three apexes touch the surface of the sphere at 19.5 degrees south latitude.

Why this number would be important to the builders of the Martian structures is not clear (though Hoagland is theorizing that it has to do with what he calls "hyperdimensional physics").

Nile Time-Map & tetrahedral geometry -- 19.5 degrees
http://prophetic.simplenet.com/elysium/nile-timemap.htm

The emphasis on 19.5 degrees is not confined to the Martian structures. It has been found to be associated with various ancient structures here on earth - Giza pyramids, Avebury (the largest stone circle in the world, near Stonehenge), Pyramids of the Sun and Moon at Teotihuacan, etc.

It is also worth noting that the Egyptian hieroglyph for Sirius, the brightest star in the sky which was extremely important to ancient Egyptians, is an equilateral triangle which can be viewed as a 2-dimensional representation of a tetrahedron; and in the Egyptian translation, it means a doorway... a sort of 'stargate'. Curiously, it has also been observed that 19.5 degrees is closely linked, for some reason, with the NASA space missions (for example, Mars Pathfinder landed at 19.5 degrees lat. of Mars on July 4, '97).

In fact, not only did Pathfinder landed at 19.5 N, the longitude of the landing site was approximately 33 W - which is the very number of the longitude of the apex of the Great Bend of the Nile (33 E)! Now, this strongly insists on the relevance of the Nile numbers, and someone behind the scenes is well aware of it. As we move on, the number, 19.5, will also be very important in my Nile Time-map theory.

Perhaps, as the Nile-Mars connection bridged by '19.5' appears to suggest, Mars was somehow involved during the 'Prometheus / Pandora period'.


http://www.vortexmaps.com/planets.php

[BROOK]

I think that would be an always changing number, not a constant.
We're always moving around!





You're right....but at any point..would we be at that coordinate? 19.47...as it is significant :naughty:

Thanks Dan for showing up on this one....needed ya! :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

It is also worth noting that the Egyptian hieroglyph for Sirius, the brightest star in the sky which was extremely important to ancient Egyptians, is an equilateral triangle which can be viewed as a 2-dimensional representation of a tetrahedron; and in the Egyptian translation, it means a doorway... a sort of 'stargate'. Curiously, it has also been observed that 19.5 degrees is closely linked, for some reason, with the NASA space missions (for example, Mars Pathfinder landed at 19.5 degrees lat. of Mars on July 4, '97).

In fact, not only did Pathfinder landed at 19.5 N, the longitude of the landing site was approximately 33 W - which is the very number of the longitude of the apex of the Great Bend of the Nile (33 E)! Now, this strongly insists on the relevance of the Nile numbers, and someone behind the scenes is well aware of it. As we move on, the number, 19.5, will also be very important in my Nile Time-map theory.

Perhaps, as the Nile-Mars connection bridged by '19.5' appears to suggest, Mars was somehow involved during the 'Prometheus / Pandora period'.

Now that is interesting :naughty:

[Dantheman62]

You're right....but at any point..would we be at that coordinate? 19.47...as it is significant :naughty:

Thanks Dan for showing up on this one....needed ya! :thumb_yello:



Not sure, I found a bunch of technical blah blah from Wilcock and Hoagland, but that just put me to sleep, LOL

I'll let ya know if I find anything, don't have much time now, gotta go out in the garage and change the oil in the quads! LOL, so we can go riding again this week!

[BROOK]

Not sure, I found a bunch of technical blah blah from Wilcock and Hoagland, but that just put me to sleep, LOL

I'll let ya know if I find anything, don't have much time now, gotta go out in the garage and change the oil in the quads! LOL, so we can go riding again this week!

Yes please do....I think you might need a spherical map also..to see if the earth rotation will cross at the 19.47 latitude...thanks! :thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

19.47 vs 19.50

I'm seeing lots of reference to 19.50 here and the geometry is exact at 19.47

Now, mind you, nothing has been proven. this is all just speculation at this point, until such can be proven...however hang with me here.

What if we would be crossing the 19.47 mark in relation to the galaxy in 2012?... 12/21/2012 to be exact....is this not getting more interesting by the minute? As we know that these 19.47 spots are key to some kind of possible stargate or portal..this is something to ponder. :naughty:

Now the value of 19.47...is also being referenced to 19.50....could this be the possibel "shift" that we are experiencing? There was many a reference to being close to 19.5 degrees as a round up figure. Or if it is slightly higher by the offset of .53 degrees the other way would be more acceptable to me than to say 19.6 when in fact it would be 19.53 on the other side of or opposite end of the opposing triangle. It would also indicate a spinning effect and a wobble of that ...this puts a wrench in it ...huh? :lmfao:

Just a thought of course...nothing proven...speculation only

[Luminari]

Ive always loved the symbolic correlation with the Roswell event in 1947. :shocked:

What does Bruce Cathie have to say on the maths of 19.47? He is someone who would be able to provide deep insights possibly with some new reflections..

We have many Kiwis on Avalon, anyone well read on all the Cathie material?

I have The Harmonic Conquest Of Space and Bridge To Infinity on my shelf but haven't got to them yet, I know he has several other books too.

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/cathie.jpg

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/WaterAerial.jpg

Then there is the vortex research of Ivan Sanderson which may be another puzzle piece;

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/12icopoints.jpg

[Lionhawk]

http://nakedmaninthetree.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/milky_way_galaxy_sun05.jpg

[BROOK]

Nice map Lionhawk :thumb_yello: Now we just need some brainiac here to measure the area....thanks :wub2:

Anybody up for it?

While we wait.....

Here are some good Videos on it

YouTube- Art Bell with Richard Hoagland 19.5 Degrees Latitude

YouTube- Cydonia and 19.5 Degrees

YouTube- Hyperdimensional Hexagon Pt.1

YouTube- Hyperdimensional Hexagon Pt.2





:thumb_yello:

[BROOK]

Not to throw off the 19.47 ...but it does boil down to Sacred Geometry


YouTube- Spiral Theory

[Lionhawk]

Guess what I was doing in my sleep last night? hahhahaha Working on it!
I also did some research and there is something to what you asked as far as magnetic direction to the Milky way, but I have to go find it again. hahhaha What I also found interesting is that we are 26,000 light years to the center of the Milky Way. hmmmm?????????



http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/milkyway.html



Properties of the Milky Way:

Diameter of the Galaxy = 90 000 light years
Classification of the Galaxy = SBbc
Number of stars in the Galaxy = 200 billion
Mass of the Galaxy = 1 trillion solar masses
Length of the central bar = 25 000 light years
Distance of the Sun from the center = 26 000 light years
Thickness of the Galaxy at the Sun = 2000 light years
Velocity of Sun around the Galaxy = 220 km/s
Orbital period of Sun around the Galaxy = 225 million years

[BROOK]

Thank you Lionhawk for the dimensions...so much for the sphereical map...:lmfao:

With those dimensions, can you measure for the 19.47 ?

Lot's of questions there...Magnetic direction is a question as well...hmmm

Good to see someone working on it. :thumb_yello:

[Lightpotential]

Ive always loved the symbolic correlation with the Roswell event in 1947. :shocked:

What does Bruce Cathie have to say on the maths of 19.47? He is someone who would be able to provide deep insights possibly with some new reflections..

We have many Kiwis on Avalon, anyone well read on all the Cathie material?

I have The Harmonic Conquest Of Space and Bridge To Infinity on my shelf but haven't got to them yet, I know he has several other books too.


Dear Luminari,

I am very well read on Cathie's works and have both books you mentioned. You may ask me any questions you like about his work if you wish.

On the matter of his own global grid system, it should be noted that it does stand apart from the Dodecahedron-Icohsahedron Russian Model in terms of the nodal points. In the case of Cathie, he appears to have constructed his model based almost exclusively on an undersea (alien?) aeriel. In my view it is highly likely therefore that the great and small circles that he has uncovered are just one sub-set of a vastly more complex system, if the identified conduit lines are indeed energetically real.

LP

[Lionhawk]

Well, I think you're on to something Brook. I took that Milky Way map and laid out a couple of triangles on it and it appeared as though our Solar System lays on the bottom lay line of the triangle. My eyes popped out of my head because it was so darn close. To darn close to dismiss it.

I just don't have the right map or the right software in place to determine an accurate calculation at this time. I admit I am going where I have never gone before. Maybe if I reverse the map into a negative mode, then that way I could lay down the triangles and see exactly where this is going. It is so close it is spooky as to the lay line being around 19.47. What I am also starting to think is that on 2012 or slightly before or after, our position as to being accurately determined on that lay line might be better determined if we were able to have some kind of tracking history thereby determining the direction we are going from where we came and then animate it, we might see the exact date instead from what has been presumed. I don't know. Also maybe we could discover where the star gates could lead us and those points of destinations as well. I am finding this fascinating as it also leads to other questions. I just don't have the talents in this area. I am striving to be accurate. Will continue to work on it.

[Luminari]

Thank you Lightpotential for the response.
I guess in the context of this thread's search the Cathie grid and related research might not be interrelated then, thanks for clarifying. It is wonderful to know you are around and able to help explain Cathie's important discoveries. :original:

Lionhawk I really have been trying to get a 3D holographic galactic map for you, nothing yet. This is the best of the 2D though;

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/MilkyWaynewmed.jpg

[Lionhawk]

Excellent Luminari. Now if we could find a map like this with the Galactic center and the graph lines coming out from that I could do some over lays and see where it all lands. The 2D is what I would like to work with for now.

Good go. Anything is a help at this point.

[THE eXchanger]

now, convert it over to the 'old imperial measures' ;)

[BROOK]

now, convert it over to the 'old imperial measures' ;)
And the reason for that would be?

[BROOK]

Why has geometry not been 'metricked'? Why 360 degrees intstead of 1, 10, 100 or even 1000?


Because one of the essential varibales in geometry is the number three. For example, three being a factor of 180 means that an equilateral triangle has angles of 60 degrees. What would their angles be in a metric system?




The degree is an arbitrary unit; basically any division of a circle would work as a system of measurement. The degree has the advantage that 360 divides evenly by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 & 10 making it easy to mentally calculate an angle; indeed this is the major advantage of all old imperial units. There is a more fundamental unit call the Radian. This is the angle subtended by an arc of a circle equal in length to its radius. Since the circumference of a circle is 2 x pi x radius one there are 2 pi, or 6.283, Radians in a circle. This is fine for calculations on angular motion but difficult to work out in your head.


We inherited 360 degrees from the Babylonians, but many ancient societies were highly interested in astronomy and in some (megalithic Britain?) had 366 degrees in a circle. This is logical, since the earth turns on its axis 366 times a year. Their measurements seem to have been interrelated and not arbitrary as a metrically divided circle would be. The Babylonians probably reduced this to 360 as it divides so much more easily by many factors.



When working on an archaeological dig near Rome, I was once given a theodolite to set up. After some time struggling to get it to work, I noticed that the scale on which horizontal angles were measured read 400 degrees rather than 360. My supervisor told me that this was and old piece of equipment, once part of an attempt to metricise the circle. I'm not sure whether this was purely an Italian initiative or not!



The Babylonians gave us the 360-degree circle. That number turns out to be the smallest one whose quotient is an integer when divided by any whole number from 1 through 10 (except for 7, which may have added to seven's stature as a "magic number". I've heard that (at least in the U.S. military), artillery batteries use a 1000-degree circle for more accuracy, so -- if true -- at least that's a start.


Both Babylonians and Chinese used sexagesimal system which means they had 59 figures rather than 9 (zero was invented much later). Although they did have a figure for 10 so their number 11 was still written as figure of 10 next to figure of 1. The origin of this is not known for sure although they were obviously influenced by astronomy and the fact that there are (almost) 360 days in a year. They also came up with sixty minutes in the hour, 24 hours a day. This is only another example of the slipping of school standards that we only expect school children to only know 9 figures (and zero)



Because you usually want to know how far round the circle you are, and you can divide 360 into many more useful fractions. Indeed, the unit favoured by mathematicians isn't the degree but the radian. Twice pi (6.2831853...) radians equals 360 degrees. So rather than 90 degrees you say 'pi-over-two radians.'



360 has many more divisors than 10, 100, 1000 etc. Therefore a circle can be divided more easily into many diferent equal parts - 2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10...... Try doing that with 100 or 1000.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,,-185569,00.html

[BROOK]

YouTube- Merkabah, The Chariot of Ascension

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oUc6WpOAwto/SR8t3tTthDI/AAAAAAAACRY/6IxP7bBgzKQ/s400/knot-of-creation-small.jpg

[BROOK]

Looking at all the maps I could find..this one at least has a circumference and a center point. with a point of our solar system, making it easy to measure

http://www.sdss.org/news/releases/halo_lores.jpg
(http://www.sdss.org/news/releases/halo_lores.jpg)

[morguana]

am following this with great interest, :thumb_yello:
bou x

[BROOK]

Glad your are following Boudicca :thumb_yello: This is very interesting stuff. :naughty:



Okay..this one has a center point, with a solar system point, and the circumference would be easy to add with the center point
It's a little smaller..but might be usable?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_universo/cosmos15_01.gif

[Dantheman62]

OK, one problem is that our solar system is tilted 90 degrees to the galaxial plane. Like if you took a quarter and stood it on edge on top of another quarter. So not only are we at a 90 degree angle but we're also oscillating up and down through the galaxial plane, putting a lot of variables into play here.

http://biocab.org/Coplanarity_SS-MW_op_784x588.jpg (http://biocab.org/Coplanarity_SS-MW.jpg)


EXPLANATION OF THE MODEL:



It is not simple to position of our Solar System with respect to the Plane of the galaxy -the Milky Way. There are few books of Astronomy screening a diagram of the coplanarity of the Solar System with the galaxy, so we regularly think that what is "up" or north for the Earth it is also "up" or north for the galaxy. However, the plane of the Solar System is not coplanar with the plane of the Milky Way, but it is tilted almost 90°.



The Solar System describes three kinds of motion, each one at a specific speed and with a limited alternation:



1. The wider and fastest movement is the orbital motion of the Solar System around the nucleus of our galaxy. The speed of the Solar System orbital motion around the center of the galaxy is 217.215 Km/s. The Solar System completes one track around the galaxy each ~226 million years.



2. The second movement, described in most of astronomy books, is the oscillation of the Solar System from north to south and vice versa with respect to the galactic plane. It is a swing upwards and downwards, determined mainly by the gravitational pull among the celestial bodies in the Solar System. The speed of this movement is of 7 Km/second.



3. The third movement is in route towards the center of the galaxy and the order reversed or moving away from the center of the galaxy. It is also a swinging movement, but influenced by the gravitational pull of outer and inner celestial bodies of the galaxy that are near to the Solar System. This motion has a speed of 20 Km/s, and it is drawing now toward Hercules constellation.




Web www.biocab.org (http://www.biocab.org)
http://biocab.org/tp.gif
http://biocab.org/tp.gif
http://biocab.org/tp.gif
http://biocab.org/Cosmic_Cloud-Solar_System-Milky_Way_op_784x588.jpg (http://biocab.org/Cosmic_Cloud-Solar_System-Milky_Way.jpg)

[BROOK]

Okay Dan had to go and throw a wrench in it....hahaha :lmfao:


But seriously...there still has to be a way to measure the vortex...the 19.47 factor of it...huh? huh? huh? hahaha :naughty:

And the only way I can think to do it is from a crude variation of the maps we've come up with so far.....hmmmm?

I think what we're trying to get at....is our solar system..in particular..the Earth..at the 19.47 of the galaxy?

and if so...what are the implications of that? BIG question there :naughty:

[Dantheman62]

My answer is kind of simple, LOL


The Sun orbits the center of the Galaxy with a period of 225 million years. A second consequence is an oscillation, with a much shorter period of about 60 million years, up and down through the plane of the disk. In other words, the Sun moves up and down about four times during each trip around the center of the Galaxy. This oscillation has an amplitude of 75 pc (250 ly). At present, the Sun is 4 pc (13 ly) above the galactic plane, moving upward into the Galaxy's Northern Hemisphere. (ly= light years)

So if we're constantly moving up and down and around the galactic plane in 60 million year increments with an amplitude of 250 light years while rotating around the galaxy every 225 million years, I'd say that at many times over and over we would be at a 19.5 degree angle to the galaxy. LOL, but not sure when or where or if it could even be measured. hmmm

[giovonni]

thanks dan
great insight!!

I believe, the energy votex centered within the human-soul, is also intuned and reacts to these complex variable speeds > and any interferences too them (our souls energy), by manipulating galactic photon waves, earth polar shifts etc... would cause disruptions to their (life-source) connections> with the energies emulating from the center of our galaxy (at this special (critical) period, just as our galaxy moves through its galactic alignment cycle.
Possible . a vortex grid war on earth > using the harrp technology by multiply opposing faction?
Maybe~ it all comedown to the controlling and harnessing of that (precious) universal life-source energy~ to keep their boats afloat?
Gi:original:

[BROOK]

OK, one problem is that our solar system is tilted 90 degrees to the galaxial plane. Like if you took a quarter and stood it on edge on top of another quarter. So not only are we at a 90 degree angle but we're also oscillating up and down through the galaxial plane, putting a lot of variables into play here.Hay Day...is there a measurement on the oscillation that our solar system is doing?
Edit...you must have been reading my mind...I see your post above :thumb_yello:

[Dantheman62]

Yeah the measurement is a distance of 250 light years up and down through the galactic plane, which is huge. So we're doing some major traveling! Doh! no wonder I'm dizzy, LOL

[BROOK]

Yeah the measurement is a distance of 250 light years up and down through the galactic plane, which is huge. So we're doing some major traveling! Doh! no wonder I'm dizzy, LOL

Dizzy Dan....hahaha...I like that :lmfao:

Thanks Dan...at least now we have the variable.....:naughty:

I see this is going to require some real work to figure out :wink2:

[Dantheman62]

Right now I'm thinking of Thanksgiving! mmmmm turkey!
http://www.guy-sports.com/fun_pictures/thanksgiving_table.jpg

:mfr_lol: :drink_nl::sorry::ot::ban::offtopic::drinks_wine:

[Lionhawk]

Now your on the wagon Dan. That was what I was saying. To be able to determine where of what direction we were coming from and where we were going. The up and down tracking and when it crosses the 19.47 factor is a two way correlation. Agreed! So far what I have found with my crude software is that we are in the proximity of the plane of 19.47 and that isn't exact as I said because of my cad issues and finding a map, that is 2D of the milky way and placing the triangles as an overlay. Establish that first then track the angle and the direction and see where all that intersects. And when. This is my hypotenuse. Oh, Brook's too! Sorry Brook. I'm just trying to prove out what you have questioned. But I keep doing this. :wall:

Hahahaha But I am not going to give up as I see a direct correlation also with the 90 degree phase shift that is also present as to what Dan has also pointed out.

#1 Find the right map and establish if the 19.47 comes into play in 2D
relative to our solar system.

#2 Track what direction we came from and where we are going to see if all this intersects. Also when if we get that far.

#3 Then apply the 90 degree phase shift because that is what that is even though it was presented as a linear angle. To which those properties haven't been established yet.

Something like that and feel free to add. We have to establish the first objective before we can add another objective, etc, but the goal is to establish the correlation and the relationship in terms of our present direction. I am out of my box here so any expert advice from others is most welcomed. I just haven't seen anything yet that I can use to determine the first objective. If we can't establish that then the rest of it is a mute point and a waste of time.

Plodding along..................

[BROOK]

We need a computer simulation :wink2:

[BROOK]

Right now I'm thinking of Thanksgiving! mmmmm turkey!
http://www.guy-sports.com/fun_pictures/thanksgiving_table.jpg

:mfr_lol: :drink_nl::sorry::ot::ban::offtopic::drinks_wine:

Yep..me too. :thumb_yello:

[TheObserver]

Another wrench, aren't we always in alignment with the center of the galaxy?
In other words two points are always connectable by a straight line.

[Dantheman62]

Yes but at varying degrees. If our solar systems oscillation is at a 250 light year amplitude then I'm thinking that it's +125 light year and a -125 light year cycle above and below the galactic plane. But I think BROOK's question still remains at what point or date will we be at a 19.5 degree angle to the galaxial center?

I don't know, it's all french to me, but I'll keep looking for info.

[BROOK]

Thank you Dan...I was going to say that...you beat me to it :lmfao:

[BROOK]

It would be ideal if we could get a simulation similar to this...then add the measurements :thumb_yello:

YouTube- Milky Way in 3D

[BROOK]

I did find this simulator....it's pretty cool :thumb_yello:

http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/

You can choose your field of view

http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=1000&vbody=1001&month=11&day=25&year=2009&hour=00&minute=00&fovmul=1&rfov=60&bfov=30&porbs=1&showsc=1

[BROOK]

Just a gentle reminder

YouTube- The Magnificent Universe