Are Chemtrails Increasing Worldwide?

[Seashore]

This thread is an off-shoot of the thread "Breaking: Entire Nation of Ukraine Under Armed Quarantine-Entire Nation Shut Down" and this post.

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This thread assumes you believe chemtrails are bad for us.
Besides whether or not they are increasing, I'm interested in what you think is in them and what you think the purpose is.
Also, what can we try to do about them?


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For a discussion about whether or not chemtrails are good or bad, please post on the thread "Are Chemtrails Good or Bad? (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17999)" instead of this thread.

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FYI: This thread started out as "Are Chemtrails Increasing in the U.S.?"

[twoRone]

haven't seen chemtrails in more than a week in the northeast US.. clearest skies we've seen in quite some time.. :thumb_yello:
days have been warmer than normal and fully expected them to be out in full force but nada..:original:

[Seashore]

haven't seen chemtrails in more than a week in the northeast US.. clearest skies we've seen in quite some time.. :thumb_yello:
days have been warmer than normal and fully expected them to be out in full force but nada..:original:

I live in Reston, Virginia and I have never seen a chemtrail.

Has anyone in Virginia ever seen one?

[Stargazer1965]

I've seen more in the last 2 weeks than I've seen in the last 6 months....

I'm in Kentucky and with weather patterns you would think my chemtrails would affect the Northeast...Eastern seaboard....

[giovonni]

Yes~ I agree Seashore,
they are very rare in the Metro area, but elsewhere!!

:mfr_omg:
http://thetruthorthefight.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/180809chemtrails.jpg

[waitinginthewings]

They have taken up spraying at night time while we sleep. They do this in my area now & I've read of other areas also.

[Seashore]

Yes~ I agree Seashore,
they are very rare in the Metro area, but elsewhere!!

:mfr_omg:
http://thetruthorthefight.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/180809chemtrails.jpg

Gio,

Pardon the naive question...

Is this an actual photo or a computer generated representation of chemtrails?

[Seashore]

They have taken up spraying at night time while we sleep. They do this in my area now & I've read of other areas also.

I understand night time while we sleep is when they send down the ELF programming as well...

[Seashore]

They have taken up spraying at night time while we sleep. They do this in my area now & I've read of other areas also.

Hmmm.

We may not know because it's being done at night...

[giovonni]

Gio,

Pardon the naive question...

Is this an actual photo or a computer generated representation of chemtrails?
I don't know, could be Mary :lmfao:

but this one isn't
http://www.truthnews.com.au/storage/images/chemtrails.jpg

Quite insidiously beautiful, wouldn't you say? :sad:

Note the osw-weather site > which use to give daily chemtrail alerts > is now adverising for the US Air Force:mfr_omg:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3618

[Seashore]

Quite insidiously beautiful, wouldn't you say? :sad:

Yes, indeed.



Note the osw-weather site > which use to give daily chemtrail alerts > is now adverising for the US Air Force:mfr_omg:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3618

I see OSW is a dot com. What does OSW stand for?

[waitinginthewings]

Hmmm.

We may not know because it's being done at night...

I have been outside (my little dog...bathroom break) at 2:30 & other times throughout the night, & have seen the fresh trails in the sky. I have also seen the fresh trails at 7 am.....so yes they are spraying during sleep time.

btw....what is ELF?

[Seashore]

I have been outside (my little dog...bathroom break) at 2:30 & other times throughout the night, & have seen the fresh trails in the sky. I have also seen the fresh trails at 7 am.....so yes they are spraying during sleep time.

btw....what is ELF?

Extremely Low Frequency

[pyrangello]

The skys yesterday on the western side of state by lake michigan was as blue as could be , that was until the afternoon. First 2 aircraft , one spraying chemtrails and the other looked like a contrail were flying side by side, probably 3-5 miles apart flying west to east . I thought that was weird, then here came the battalion of planes flying one after another very high spraying heavy trails in the same direction all staggered like on the camelot site latest post of whats new.

By the end of the day the sky was white as a ghost. I did see them 2 weeks ago flying under a full moon, a bunch of other people saw them as well. It seems like this stuff is in the air 24-7 now whether their spraying or not.

I will say the gardens wre very bad around here last year except for the plants inside the greenhouses, they were flourishing .

So my answer is yes .

[Jonah]

As of sunday....up here in northern ca they've stepped it up for sure...

High altitude streaks....it's so obvious..... I live by the airport so i know the normal flight patterns as planes usually keep to the same lanes in and out of the city....

These planes cut right across the sky in grid formation....i saw 4 planes spraying at the same time....

what do we have to do to get some answers??!!! :mad3:

Shall we just lay down and play dumb?? :thumbdown:

[Seashore]

what do we have to do to get some answers??!!! :mad3:

Maybe some insiders/potential whistle blowers read this forum. Maybe they can help us out.

[Seashore]

So far members from Kentucky; BC, Canada; Northern Michigan, and Sacramento, California have posted.

Have any other members noticed chemtrails where you live?

One thing I wonder about is whether people are confident that they know the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail when they see it. I'm not sure I would...

[Barcarolle]

My location in melbourne Australia has been quite active the last 3 weeks, noticing daily planes dumping high in the sky east to west in the northern sky. i have a new camera and I will put some pictures up soon ;)

Namaste

[GoingToFast]

Have you ever considered the possibility that these Chemtrails may not be an evil thing but instead a life-saving thing , what if the Sun has gone into overdrive for some reason , how would we protect ourselves....well an obvious answer would be to try and SHIEALD ourselves from the strong rays.... and how would we do that.....

By now we have all witnessed the warmer weather, maybe its not the CO2 that's to blame but instead the sun that's gone into overdrive.....

It's just a thought...

[Jonah]

Maybe some insiders/potential whistle blowers read this forum. Maybe they can help us out.

I dont know about that seashore.... I've sent pics to my congressmen before and got no response. If anything people in the military would be the ones who could do something. Like blow em out of the sky for starters...:lightsabre:

But seriously i get mad when i see these trails..:thumbdown:

It snowed today in the northern valley.... its a dry heavy snow... doesnt stick.. little water.... wonder what else it could be made of?

[Seashore]

Have you ever considered the possibility that these Chemtrails may not be an evil thing but instead a life-saving thing , what if the Sun has gone into overdrive for some reason , how would we protect ourselves....well an obvious answer would be to try and SHIEALD ourselves from the strong rays.... and how would we do that.....

By now we have all witnessed the warmer weather, maybe its not the CO2 that's to blame but instead the sun that's gone into overdrive.....

It's just a thought...

For myself, I guess I have the overall view that it's unlikely that the chemtrails are for the good of humanity because we know who is running the show and nothing else they're doing is!

Dr Bill talked about the sun and I tried to summarize what he said in this post on the "New Camelot Interview of Dr Bill Deagle (15 Nov 2009)" thread.

The warmer weather? Aren't we getting a cooling trend now and the talk is about gradually entering an ice age?

I don't know!

[GoingToFast]

Question1: If thees trails were to be "Evil" what would they contain, what would be the CHEMICAL AGENT in the trails and what would be the PURPOSE or RESULT wanted of that agent.??

Question 2 : Have we seen any difference in our environment or in human behavior that correlates directly to the trails or any Chemical agent supposedly in the trails.??

[Seashore]

If anything people in the military would be the ones who could do something.

These are the people who I pray are reading this forum and thinking about this topic!! I wish they would post about it.

I am of the opinion that Congress is too far gone to be of any help to us. I believe they're puppets, along with the President.

My understanding is that there are "white hats" in the military (below the level of General), and also in the lettered agencies. We need to support them in any way we can figure out how to do... :wub2:


It snowed today in the northern valley.... its a dry heavy snow... doesnt stick.. little water.... wonder what else it could be made of?

Good question.

[woodshreder]

I live in the Willamette Valley in Western Oregon. There has been an ever increasing amount of chemtrails in our area . In fact, last week was one of the most intense I have ever seen. I have been on large dose Vit D3 for the last several months but everyone around me seems to be getting very ill. This weekend the band I manage performed at a local casino our drummer came down with a violent case of viral stomach flu earlier that day and had to be hospitalized. They all think im nuts linking high occurance chemtrails to everyones illnesses. I however dont think they pay enough attention to what is really going on around them

[mntruthseeker]

They have taken up spraying at night time while we sleep. They do this in my area now & I've read of other areas also.


yep this is the reason

I used to see them all the time and now..............I hear them fly over at night.

Too much attention called to them so they are trying to be sneaky

I wonder what is so special about Virginia ..........Minnesota has them daily, I'm getting a complex

[Seashore]

I however dont think they pay enough attention to what is really going on around them

:sad: This is so common!!

I'm so hoping that more and more people will begin to pay attention.

Hopefully we can reach new people by way of guests reading our posts... :original:

[anikohu]

I live in the Willamette Valley in Western Oregon. There has been an ever increasing amount of chemtrails in our area . In fact, last week was one of the most intense I have ever seen. I have been on large dose Vit D3 for the last several months but everyone around me seems to be getting very ill. This weekend the band I manage performed at a local casino our drummer came down with a violent case of viral stomach flu earlier that day and had to be hospitalized. They all think im nuts linking high occurance chemtrails to everyones illnesses. I however dont think they pay enough attention to what is really going on around them

Hi! Here in Souther Oregon(i can see the Crater lake from my window:original:) the chemtrails are so intense !!!, i can't stand it. I find many times orange and yellow- redish particals on the ground. Every summer getting cooler and harder to grow anything,,, Im so sick of them:mad3: Im making pictures sense mid 90's - I wonder If our Friendly ET's(if any?) can do something about this? I read it somewhere the "orgone blaster" should work on the chemtrails. Im absultely outrage of this massive attempt to murder to Human - animals and nature....
Manny thanks to all who is awake!! Love Aniko

[Dantheman62]

How to make your own orgone blasters...

http://www.orgoneblasters.com/make-your-own.htm

[watermunky]

Yesterday morning about 7:00 am there was e very distinct V pattern in the sky over northern Indiana. I have been aware of this occuring all summer. This time I was actuually kind of glad to see it, my girlfriend was with me,she didn't say much but I don't think she could ignore it.
As for distinguishing the difference; Contrails form naturally from jet exhaust,
but dissipate rather quickly.Chemtrails however will stay in the sky for hours giving us the lines and patterns so many have photographed and posted.Also they tend to spread and turn bright blue skies hazy and overcast.
I have done some experimenting with the blasters DTM mentioned and they do seem have some effect,I would warn that one needs to be responcible in their use.:original:

[Myra]

Yes they are increasing in my area both daily and at night.:thumbdown:

[Seashore]

As for distinguishing the difference; Contrails form naturally from jet exhaust,
but dissipate rather quickly.Chemtrails however will stay in the sky for hours giving us the lines and patterns so many have photographed and posted.Also they tend to spread and turn bright blue skies hazy and overcast.


Thank you.

For more and more people to become aware of them, I guess the key is that people start to look up and observe what their own eyes tell them, being patient enough to pause and observe how long the trail lingers, and whether it spreads.

[GoingToFast]

Go to this thread because here you may have the answer to the TRUE purpose of the Chemtrails AstralWalker (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8441)


Have you ever considered the possibility that these Chemtrails may not be an evil thing but instead a life-saving thing , what if the Sun has gone into overdrive for some reason ,

how would we protect ourselves....well an obvious answer would be to try and SHIEALD ourselves from the strong rays.... and how would we do that.....

By now we have all witnessed the warmer weather, maybe its not the CO2 that's to blame but instead the sun that's gone into overdrive.....

Question1: If thees trails were to be "Evil" what would they contain, what would be the CHEMICAL AGENT in the trails and what would be the PURPOSE or RESULT wanted of that agent.??

Question 2 : Have we seen any difference in our environment or in human behavior, in a larger scale, that correlates directly to the trails or any Chemical agent supposedly in the trails.??

[Jonah]

Go to this thread because here you may have the answer to the TRUE purpose of the Chemtrails AstralWalker (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8441)


Have you ever considered the possibility that these Chemtrails may not be an evil thing but instead a life-saving thing , what if the Sun has gone into overdrive for some reason ,

how would we protect ourselves....well an obvious answer would be to try and SHIEALD ourselves from the strong rays.... and how would we do that.....

By now we have all witnessed the warmer weather, maybe its not the CO2 that's to blame but instead the sun that's gone into overdrive.....

Question1: If thees trails were to be "Evil" what would they contain, what would be the CHEMICAL AGENT in the trails and what would be the PURPOSE or RESULT wanted of that agent.??

Question 2 : Have we seen any difference in our environment or in human behavior, in a larger scale, that correlates directly to the trails or any Chemical agent supposedly in the trails.??

as for question 1. http://www.chemtrails911.com/lab_tests_and_effects.htm

as for 2. http://www.bariumblues.com/

as with any information, use discernment wisely

[Seashore]

(FYI I requested and it has been done - thanks, Karen - a change in this thread title from "U.S." to "Worldwide.")

[GoingToFast]

as for question 1. http://www.chemtrails911.com/lab_tests_and_effects.htm

as for 2. http://www.bariumblues.com/

as with any information, use discernment wisely



Here is a site with some very unusual clouds, but who are completely natural. Just because a cloud or waportrail is Un-natural in the sky it doesn't automatically make'em TOXIC, or man-made with INTENT to harm or kill.

All I'm saying is: Keep an opened mind... don't always go into "Evil-Conspiracy mode" just because something is unusual, and.... take the "Conspiracy of Goodness" into consideration also when the "Conspiracy-mode" kicks-in.

http://www.collthings.co.uk/2008/06/10-very-rare-clouds.html

[dagon]

I live in santa rosa california. and this week I watched planes spray the skys around here. perfectly clear day and a few planed went by checker boarded the sky and soon the whole sky was covered. I was showing all my neighbors. and a few planes were normal. no chem trails. I think Ill start reporting it to the police or whomever will listen. it happens here from time to time but not every day. wish we could shed more light on this subject. and the public would stop sticking there head in the sand on this. its big news and there is alarming info out there on this subject.

I took some photos. maybe later ill upload them later.

[Jonah]

Going to fast,

If you mean that they are for our benefit than I would find that hard to believe.

But beliefs can change.... It would be nice to get some disclosure from our supposed government on the subject.... but as they have let us know time and time again, we are on our own.

[GoingToFast]

Here is a short description of Barium :Barium sulfate is used for its heaviness, insolubility, and X-ray OPACITY as an X-ray RADIOCONTRAST agent for imaging the human gastrointestinal tract. Meaning : Barium is used as a radio-contrast because it STOPS X-rays from passing through and thus leaving white fields on the X-ray Photograph.

So.... If you spray the sky whith Barium along with other Radiation-Blocking metals you are actually creating a RADIATION SHEALD.

BARIUM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium)

[dagon]

wrong link

[Jonah]

I dont think anything they spray can be good for the respiratory system.... especially metal...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16342471

ftp://ftp.arb.ca.gov/carbis/research/seminars/pinkerton/jan03-web.pdf

[GoingToFast]

Here is a short description of Barium :Barium sulfate is used for its heaviness, insolubility, and X-ray OPACITY as an X-ray RADIOCONTRAST agent for imaging the human gastrointestinal tract. Meaning : Barium is used as a radio-contrast because it STOPS X-rays from passing through and thus leaving white fields on the X-ray Photograph.

So.... If you spray the sky with Barium along with other Radiation-Blocking metals you are actually creating a RADIATION SHEALD.

BARIUM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium)


Take what I have written above under consideration and then goto Astralwalkers thread


Astralwalker (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8441)


BARIUM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium)

[Initiate]

Here is a short description of Barium :Barium sulfate is used for its heaviness, insolubility, and X-ray OPACITY as an X-ray RADIOCONTRAST agent for imaging the human gastrointestinal tract. Meaning : Barium is used as a radio-contrast because it STOPS X-rays from passing through and thus leaving white fields on the X-ray Photograph.

So.... If you spray the sky whith Barium along with other Radiation-Blocking metals you are actually creating a RADIATION SHEALD.

BARIUM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium)

It also makes a good projector screen for Holograms. i.e. fake invasion....

[mntruthseeker]

It also makes a good projector screen for Holograms. i.e. fake invasion....


I go along with you. Its total BS .

I see the numbers of chronic pulmanary cases going up daily due to their senseless spraying. I see the dead birds in the streets, dead trees, plants etc.

No one will ever convince me that it is any good for anthing. They can spread their stories all they want.

You think that all these fancy names they put on these clouds mean anything to me ?

They have been spraying for years. They know how to cover their butts.

its amazing what you can really see if you open your eyes

[twoRone]

Here is a short description of Barium :Barium sulfate is used for its heaviness, insolubility, and X-ray OPACITY as an X-ray RADIOCONTRAST agent for imaging the human gastrointestinal tract. Meaning : Barium is used as a radio-contrast because it STOPS X-rays from passing through and thus leaving white fields on the X-ray Photograph.

So.... If you spray the sky whith Barium along with other Radiation-Blocking metals you are actually creating a RADIATION SHEALD.

BARIUM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium)

it's my understanding that indeed they are spraying barium sodium and micronized aluminium to create clouds as a shield from sun's intensity... the oceans naturally create clouds by their sodium content.. as the atmosphere sucks up ocean water the sodium content is what creates the clouds .. very small particles are required for the clouds to form so the sodium fits the bill for natural cloud building.. .. so they are somewhat copying mother nature by using the barium sodium .. the use of aluminium and barium I question.. if it's to block Xrays or gamma rays they may be shielding us from something we are suppose to have (to some degree) for evolution.. cosmic rays have been known to advance evolution in the past, this could be something we are suppose to be receiving ... I'm sure they are trying to keep the earth cool thru the shift to avert possible mega earth changes .. the thing is why are they not informing us about the spraying.. the northeast US got hammered with chemtrails all summer and we had about a two week break about three weeks ago .. they are back at it but after dark... my sinuses are a mess and I've never had problems with them until this year.. between that and the strange rashes.. I'm getting ******!:thumbdown:

bottom line for me is --if they're spraying to protect us 'great' but tell us!:lightsabre:

[GoingToFast]

I go along with you. Its total BS .

I see the numbers of chronic pulmanary cases going up daily due to their senseless spraying. I see the dead birds in the streets, dead trees, plants etc.

No one will ever convince me that it is any good for anthing. They can spread their stories all they want.

You think that all these fancy names they put on these clouds mean anything to me ?

They have been spraying for years. They know how to cover their butts.

its amazing what you can really see if you open your eyes



And what would/could the result be if they DIDN't spray, IF... it is a "Conspiracy of Goodness ???

You have to look at the BIG picture and take Everything under consideration, there is a very good proverb that fits here and that is:

"The Truth Hides Best Under It's Own Opposit" - Take everything under consideration !!!

[Seashore]

When I opened this thread, I didn't realize that there was a debate about whether chemtrails are good or bad; I made the assumption that they are bad.

I'm thinking that it would be a good idea going forward to have this thread for people people to document chemtrail activity where they live, and, assuming they're bad, what we might be able to do about it.

For the discussion about chemtrails being good or bad, I've started a new thread: "Are Chemtrails Good or Bad?" (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17999) I'm hoping people won't mind copying and pasting code and text from this thread to the new thread so that they can quote and reply.

[Magamud]

In Durham NC they are constant. They are much more efficient at it. Covering the sky in a morning. Starting their spread on the rising sun. Its conditioning folks. In 50 years no one will notice the difference...

[Calluna]

I think that the metals in the chemtrails were to increase the conductivity (probably not the right phrase) of the ELF and VLF as well as killing people off with respiratory problems.

[Phr0z3n]

While I live in Minot, ND...I have seen the occasional trail left by the planes as they pass overhead. I've never associated them with being a "Chemtrail" before but I have to ask the question. Does the temperature affect the chemtrails making them more potent or less potent? Or does it negate them completely.

I feel compelled to ask this question as the current air temperature without wind chill is -16 degrees Fahrenheit at ground level.

[Bobbie]

That's probably because Reston is very adjacent to DC and I doubt they would be treating themselves with chemicals. Maybe a good place for us to move. We are looking for a place to retire in the next 5 years or less. I live in a valley north of LA and when I went to the store last week they were really laying it down. I took photos with my phone. I know they had to be chem trails because another plane that flew by at the same altitude had no trail. They were criss-crossing the whole valley. I think it was last Wednesday or Thursday. I want to make a couple of those Orgonite cloud busters for my back garden to help us and the community.

Here's a video of a cloud buster working
http://www.youtube.com/lightsabre6?gl=CA&hl=en

How to make a Orgonite cloud buster:
YouTube- ( Part 1 ) How to Make an Orgonite Cloudbuster

Years ago a friend, whom I've lost touch with - he was kind of like a wizard type, gave me two huge crystals held together by a sheet of copper and wrapped 16 times with copper wiring. I've kept it all these years. Maybe I've been protected and didn't even know it.

Yes~ I agree Seashore,
they are very rare in the Metro area, but elsewhere!!

:mfr_omg:
http://thetruthorthefight.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/180809chemtrails.jpg

[Bobbie]

After all this chem trail talk, I was watching TV when a T-Mobile commercial came on showing a beautiful field and the bright blue sky was full of chem trails. The arrogance. Keep an eye out for the commercial. Is this what they qualify as "telling/warning us" before they zap us. They are hiding their actions in plain sight - which is their way. :wall:

[Seashore]

Here's a video of a cloud buster working
http://www.youtube.com/lightsabre6?gl=CA&hl=en

How to make a Orgonite cloud buster:
YouTube- ( Part 1 ) How to Make an Orgonite Cloudbuster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCn1DO2Rj6k)


Bobbie,

Absolutely fantastic post!!

Thank you.

I love those YouTube videos. This is what YouTube is for!!

[Curlybird]

Chemtrails come in many different flavors and none of them are good for you. The original proposal for a shield of high level atmospheric particulate was developed by Edward Teller, the man that brought you the H Bomb. I believe you can find the memo at Carnicom.com, Cliff Carnicom's excellent site investigating chemtrails.

William Thomas, the first real in-depth investigator, has a great timeline (http://willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Chemtrails_Timeline_1) that even links some of the patents originally filed by Bernard Eastlund of Atlantic Richfield now under the auspices of HAARP.

Chemtrails are known to contain micro particulate aluminum dioxide, barium dioxide, calcium and magnesium. Additionally, pseudomonis aeroginosa, normally a soil bacterium has been found in the trails. PA will not harm you unless you happen to be immuno-compromised as many people are today.

If they are attempting to follow Teller's proposal, the very chemicals they are using will bounce back a bit of the sun's rays, but will also heat the atmosphere to a greater extent as the specific temperature of each is higher than the gasses our atmosphere are comprised of.

After studying Chemtrails for about 10 years, I believe that they are predominately using them in concert with HAARP to execute over the horizon radar, deep scan tomography (sub surface mapping), undersea communications, weather modification and in the course of all this are affecting many of Earth's populace with their ELF emissions that just happen to coincide with the frequency of brain waves. The ELF's can play human emotions for all they're worth. Sometimes, CT's are used to spread microbacteria.

If you want more information, check out William Thomas' site, Cliff Carnicom's and the book or videos by Dr. Nick Begich, Angels Don't Play This HAARP.

Curlybird

[Seashore]

Chemtrails come in many different flavors and none of them are good for you...

Curlybird,

I put a copy of your post on the thread "Are Chemtrails Good or Bad?"

[Curlybird]

Thanks, Seashore. Anything to spread the word about Chemtrails is a good thing.

Curlybird

[Seashore]

Thanks, Seashore. Anything to spread the word about Chemtrails is a good thing.

Curlybird

You're welcome! Hope to see you on the other thread... :original:

[Seashore]

I've edited the opening post to ask the question, "Is there something we should be doing about chemtrails?" I'd like to hear more about the use of orgone blasters/Orgonite cloud busters, and any other things that we could do...

Actually, are orgone blasters and Orgonite cloud busters the same thing?

[Kundaflower]

Hello you all..:trumpet:

Orgonite cloud Buster or Blaster = same thing differend name.

Do they work? yes. :thumb_yello:

How? imagine if you will, that its giving kind of acupuncture to atmosphere.

If one really wants to understand principles behind orgone energy you can
start by looking one hour presentation by man who have dedicated his life
to study Wilhelm Reich life work and put it in the practice.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/jdemeo.htm

Amazing stuff, ecpecially later part were he speaks about his scientific work in Africa with original cloudbusters which are littlebit differend with orgonite devices.

Love and clear sky !:wub2:
Kunda

[Seashore]

Hello you all..:trumpet:

Orgonite cloud Buster or Blaster = same thing differend name.

How about orgone and orgonite? Somehow they sound like they might be somewhat different...



If one really wants to understand principles behind orgone energy you can
start by looking one hour presentation by man who have dedicated his life
to study Wilhelm Reich life work and put it in the practice.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/jdemeo.htm

Amazing stuff, ecpecially later part were he speaks about his scientific work in Africa with original cloudbusters which are littlebit differend with orgonite devices.


I remember watching this video!

Good recommendation.

[Kundaflower]

Dear Seashore,

To put it simple,

orgone=energy or energy matrix/KI/Chi/Prana....

orgonite= resin (organic material)+metal scrap(inorganic material) + crystal

Orgonite is made to manipulate energy field to behave more balanced way.

Alltough all emotions which are energy that can be measured from human body belong to humanlife, usually individual who is somewhat balanced
can control his life and live according his desires.

Of cource sometimes it feels good to get MAD :mad3::mad3::mad3::mad3:
as it feels sometimes good to be full of love:wub2::wub2::wub2::wub2

So, some of us feel that life in our surrondings or inside us has gone too wild too long, and one way to balance energyfield is orgonite.
Its just a tool nothing more or less.:thumb_yello:

You can do many otherthings also to get similar result like meditation, yoga,
gardening, being in nature and so on..

Just how much human mind influence in our world ?
As an aswer to that i want to remind that in many native cultures think that human consiousness and weather condition has direct link.
Toxic mind = Toxic sky.
According them even plants have a ability to call rain....

Folklore in India tells us times when citizens of an country went to a King
to complain that weather was not optimal... So Kings duty was to find out
that who was in his kingdom unhappy thus causing a havoc !:mfr_omg:

Love
K:wub2:

[Seashore]

Great post! Thank you. :original:



Orgonite is made to manipulate energy field to behave more balanced way.



Do you know how orgonite works to break up chemtrails?

[swordsmith]

curlybird, so great to see your very concise post and am in agreement with all of it. My personal misery is being able to hear the elf sounds conducted . Count yourself lucky if you don't. But I do know your general area has been under extreme assalut for some time. Would you say many people there understand what' s going on? Or care?

I've kind of given up trying to inform people here in Blighty. It seems like you either get it or you don't and its sad to come to this conclusion after years of trying.

The thing about orgone is it does not stop the sound or vibration being broadcast , and I am not entirely convinced for a variety of reasons.
Though I would like to believe in orgone's efficacy I would rather people woke up and could SEE this war on humanity, not to mention the suffering marine mammals that are literally killing themselves due to sonic assault .
Still, I remain open to further orgone information. I even once built an accumulater many years ago, and funnily enough painted the box on all sides with different REAL and beautiful clouds. Remember those?

I just wanted to add, that though being in nature is healing and wonderful , spare a thought for the many gardeners and people who spend time working in the soil who have contracted morgellons. Joni Mitchell is one well known example. Plus my garden just did not work this year , too much aerial assault and fungal death . And yes, I am mad about that.

[Seashore]

The thing about orgone is it does not stop the sound or vibration being broadcast , and I am not entirely convinced for a variety of reasons.


I am unfamiliar with the issue of sound or vibration being associated with chemtrails. :mfr_omg:

Is this a temporary effect or does it linger? Is the vibration for the purpose of mind control?


...people who spend time working in the soil who have contracted morgellons...

Morgellons involves nanotechnology, I understand... Self-replicating robot like objects that become embedded in a person's system? Do I have that right?

[Clarityofawareness]

Hello all,

My perspectives concerning chemtrails may seem shocking. Especially to those whom have never looked at it all in such a way before. But I will try to explain via this brief video I recently made.

Global chemtrail reality and you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSNnmlS7jY

Kevin aka Clarity of Awareness

[swordsmith]

Hi seashore, you have to think of chemtrails as a medium for broadcasting, like a plasma TV, which would mean they have the capabilities for holding a signal , and audio would be quite easy . They are working on the visual, hence Norwegian sky spirals ( HAARP /EISCAT type tech is also involved)

Most people simply can not hear the elf noise, but I am sure if affects us all being a vibration essentially. I hear the low range sounds and they are especially turned on after midnight and increase around 2:00 AM. when most people are meant to be in the deepest restorative sleep state. At very bad times, the noise is on all day long, this can last for a month at a time and then be abruptly turned off. It is amplified by being in a car or a building. I can still hear it outdoors but it is much diminished. It used to be much worse at full moon time, now the pattern is hard to follow, if there is one.

The sound itself is a low rumble, like an idling diesel parked outside the house or a car with a boom box. It is rather agitating , some who hear it have been driven pretty nuts, even a few suicides. It has nothing to do with electrical supply to the house or tinnitus.Most people who research the subject say it is microwave being broadcast to cell phone towers and dispersed through the medium of the metallic sky. It can be measured but is difficult to do so without sophisticated gadgetry. I first thoght it was cell phone or TETRA towers I was hearing but the sound seems to come from everywhere, like the sky itself. Spent a good few nights driving around to see where it ended or was stronger and that was pretty inconclusve. I wanted to move because of it , but have since heard it in the unlikeliest places . Now I sleep with a fan on to mask the sound, not ideal in winter.

Morgellons is a deep subject , but yes, it most definietly looks like it involves nanotech.

I really look forward to the day tax dollars no longer support the war on us.

[Seashore]

swordsmith,

Thank you.



Most people simply can not hear the elf noise, but I am sure if affects us all being a vibration essentially.

Is "elf noise" just the name people have attached to it? Do you think it is for the purpose of mind control?

I also have a problem with a noise that I hear all of my waking hours. I've had it for 6 months or so. It sounds like it is coming from behind me, and the only way I can describe it is that it sounds like electronics working. It's not a buzzing. It's not high-pitched. It's hard for me to describe.

Virginia, U.S. is not a place associated with chemtrails, but maybe the spraying doesn't have to be directly overhead, or maybe my noise comes from the electronic soup created by cell phone towers, etc.

All I know is we need to keep talking about these things.

[Bobbie]

I started hearing this low hum (diesel engine type sound in the distance) back in the 90's when I lived in a very rural part of South Carolina. I would lay in bed and when everything else was quiet, I could hear it. It just drones on. Of course, there were two military installations within 15 miles so maybe it was a bleedover from something going on there. Maybe it was something they use on the troops. I'm speculating of course. I wonder if they use these technologies in training the soldiers in order to influence resolve to carry out the task at hand - like a programming of sorts???

[Seashore]

I started hearing this low hum (diesel engine type sound in the distance) back in the 90's when I lived in a very rural part of South Carolina. I would lay in bed and when everything else was quiet, I could hear it. It just drones on. Of course, there were two military installations within 15 miles so maybe it was a bleedover from something going on there. Maybe it was something they use on the troops. I'm speculating of course. I wonder if they use these technologies in training the soldiers in order to influence resolve to carry out the task at hand - like a programming of sorts???

Reading this makes me think of what was done to Iraqi troops during the First Gulf War. I don't know whether it involved sound, but I believe it was mind control transmitted somehow to the Iraqi troops that made them surrender.

[Seashore]

Here is an article (http://www.ehow.com/how_2241309_detect-chemtrails.html?ref=fuel&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art) entitled "How to Detect Chemtrails" from the eHow website:
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How to Detect Chemtrails

By eHow Contributing Writer


Step 1

Observe the persistence of the trail. Contrails usually dissipate in a few minutes. Chemtrails persist, spread out and blanket the sky with a cloud layer. This trait is inconclusive, however, because contrails can occasionally persist for more than six hours if the altitude, temperature and humidity are correct.

Step 2

Watch in areas away from major jet routes for a square grid-like pattern, as opposed to single or multiple lines that cross at random angles. This too is inconclusive evidence since military planes in training often create grid-like patterns away from civilian routes.

Step 3

See if you notice hues other than the healthy white of contrails. Chemtrails have a dirty appearance and diffract sunlight into rainbow colors. Don't take this step as conclusive either, since normal contrails under certain lighting can produce a rainbow-like spectrum.

Step 4

Buy powerful binoculars for the best detection of chemtrailing. They must have a high resolution at high altitudes. Using binoculars, you can spot whether the exhaust comes from the plane's engines or through nozzles. One nozzle might be at the tail end or several could be located at intervals along the trailing end of the wing. Nozzles are an indication of chemtrail activity.

Step 5

Look for abrupt interruptions of the trail pattern that point to controlled stops and starts. Contrail interruptions also occur but are gradual across a different air mass boundary.

Step 6

Use a camera with a telephoto lens to document the operation if you detect any chemtrails.

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What do members think of this article?

[stal]

havnt seen a heavy day out here for a while, not since october


http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn175/stal666/img438.jpg

[Clarityofawareness]

What about the invisible chemtrails? Are there any clear days with'em?

[Bobbie]

Hey Stal, that is what it looks like over my house most days. I've been looking for a good excuse to move. I wonder - should I mention this abnormality on the Disclosure Statement? -LOL Do you think folks would be interested in buying a house from a perceived lunatic? :lmao:

[Seashore]

The following is a blog post (http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2009/12/19/editorial-could-increased-chemtrail-activity-be-signaling-the-onset-of-a-more-virulent-bioweapon-outbreak/) by Alex Studer, who is on Dr Bill Deagle's team to try to alert people about the planned pandemic/fear of pandemic of the New World Order controllers and the associated vaccination scam:
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EDITORIAL Could increased chemtrail activity be signaling the onset of a more virulent bioweapon outbreak?

December 19, 2009 at 7:07 pm

http://fto.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/450/chemtrailsfrontsmoke.jpg

By AMcGS

Today (like yesterday) the entire San Francisco bay area is enveloped in a purplish mist – residue from multiple chemtrails that have been laid in the sky by Evergreen Air sprayer planes flying crisscross in the sky all day since before dawn.

http://labvirus.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/chemtrail-inners3.jpg

So many chemtrails have been laid across the horizon parallel to each other that they have settled into each other to create a faux “cloud” formation drifting overhead, as it sifts down toward the ground in a fine mist which covers the landscape. Standing on a hilltop and looking out across the city, I remember how things once looked on cool crisp cloudless days such as today, yet today again I see a stifling pea-soup of a thick purplish mist that causes the other hills in SF to gradually fade away from visibility. I used to live in LA, and I thought the smog there was bad, along with decreased visibility, but I never thought I’d see such air pollution up here in SF, where usually the winds keep all smog from reaching the peninsula. This low-flying mass of dumped chemicals is hugging the ground as it crawls onshore, having been dumped into the atmosphere probably 20 miles or so offshore.

[Warning from Seashore - bad language in this YouTube video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc6E-r16VQw&feature=player_embedded

From what research I’ve conducted and seen others collect, the general consensus is that these chemtrails (considered HAZMAT by those who handle the materials in the sprayer planes) contain mycoplasma, bacteria, silicon-based nano-organisms, aluminum hydroxide, barium, berillium, and ethylene dibromide, among other nasties – none of which are good for you.

It has been my long hypothesis that the chemtrails are a multi-faceted program, one facet of which is to lower our immune systems while these “waves” of biological weapons created at US Armed Forces Institute of Pathology at Ft. Detrick, Maryland are released under the cover story of the “swine flu” pandemic. This is to me part and parcel of the UN’s freshly-stated directive to reduce global population by three billion by 2012 – which is almost half of the world’s population today.

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/tinfoil_dees.jpg

Following the comments of Dr. Niman who has clearly indicated a new wave of more lethal pandemic is right around the corner, along with the recently published paper of Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger claiming the bleeding-lung deaths of the “Ukraine Plague” are consistent with the 1918 Spanish Flu, along with the published papers of Adrian Gibbs confirming “swine flu” to be a lab-created virus, along with the researched work of Dr. A. True Ott PhD and Dr. Bill Deagle MD, along with the published papers by Ken Welch, Dr. Russell Blaylock MD and others, I am led to the conclusion that the time is ripe for the official release of the 1918 Spanish Flu bioweapon, and I further support Dr. Ott’s instinct which suggests this planned release could very well occur on this coming Monday, December 21, the winter solstice.

I pray I am wrong.

Only time will tell.

[End of blog post]

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I'm wondering whether there are persons who are in a position to walk away from the job of carrying out the spraying - reading this article right now? Or who know someone carrying out the spraying? The controllers don't do the spraying; they order it. We need some peaceful non-compliance (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=153792#post153792).

[dragonfly]

915

This is what it's been looking like in Arizona the last few days. :thumbdown:

[Gringo]

Anyone ever think that the government is altering the atmosphere so certian ET's could visit and/or live with us without having to wear bio-suits or having to be in underground bases with "special rooms"? just a thought, let me know what you think.

[Scarab]

Are Chemtrails Increasing Worldwide?

Yes.

What will we do about it?

Nothing.


Anyone ever think that the government is altering the atmosphere so certian ET's could visit and/or live with us without having to wear bio-suits or having to be in underground bases with "special rooms"? just a thought, let me know what you think.

No.

[burgundia]

Unfortunately for you scarab, your mission on this forum is a total failure...

[Scarab]

Unfortunately for you scarab, your mission on this forum is a total failure...

Well, it has been difficult to get people to see what is going around them. I think the problem has been many members here who have their heads in the sand.

But I think some people might be paying a little more attention now so I wouldn't call it a total failure.

I'll keep working at it. Thank you.

[Scarab]

Thinking more about your comment Burgundia.

This is the problem (as I see it, IMO, my opinion etc etc etc.)

The title of this thread is "Are Chemtrails Increasing Worldwide?"

The answer is yes.

All anyone here needs to do is walk outside, look up at the sky and see it. There's the answer.

So what do we do?

We make a thread. Then instead of answering the question (see answer above) we move into a days long discussion about what chemtrails may be and why they may be spraying them. The days long discussion here is just an addition to the years long discussions all over the internet.

Everybody weighs in with their own IMO on what they could be. Ad nauseum.

When the answer is, chemtrails are not natural. Any other discussion should become irrelevant at this point and we should move on to:

"What do we DO about it? How do we stop it?"

But, we don't do that. We keep debating, discussing, weighing in with IMO's and useless talk while the people who are spraying them watch and laugh at us.

It's shameful.

[Earthian]

They have taken up spraying at night time while we sleep. They do this in my area now & I've read of other areas also.

Same here in Toronto, Ontario. Night sprayings are very intense. You wake up in the morning and the sky is covered. Don't forget the natural rainy/cloudy days, "they" utilize those too.

[Seashore]

we should move on to:

"What do we DO about it? How do we stop it?"

But, we don't do that. We keep debating, discussing, weighing in with IMO's and useless talk while the people who are spraying them watch and laugh at us.

It's shameful.

I can very much relate to your frustration, Scarab.

With all the things that we point out on this forum that is a problem we should always be discussing the solution and we should try to help each other to implement solutions!! :thumb_yello: :mfr_omg:

[Bobbie]

How about a walk on Washington - I'll be in the area at various times during January and February. Now, if I can just get 999,999 other folks, we've got a march. :mfr_lol: Problem is that just not enough people are aware and even if we had their ear, at this point all we can tell them is that it does happen but we dont' know why and we don't know the effects it is having on us. Not much to go on for a march to have meaning. We can shake our finger at the White House but we don't have factual material enough to make a case....and the media surely will not help unless we can get Jesse Ventura on it We need someone with street cred. That would be a very good way for one to use their celebrity but most are too busy taking sides on the right or left to see what's coming at them from the middle. Would Ron Paul take this on? Anybody know him well enough to ask him?

One begins to wonder if only dis-info people are allowed to go public or get recognized by the media, otherwise they would be silenced. We need to find out the facts (and I don't have a clue how to do that but others here may) and use the media we have been provided - Youtube - internet, etc.....and, it can't come off like some of those crazy youtube videos either - it has to be genuine, professional and sincere and full of facts and data to back it up. That's the first step - getting accurate data....IMHO That's a solution, but it's only my opinion. I can very much relate to your frustration, Scarab.

With all the things that we point out on this forum that is a problem we should always be discussing the solution and we should try to help each other to implement solutions!! :thumb_yello: :mfr_omg:

[burgundia]

Thinking more about your comment Burgundia.

This is the problem (as I see it, IMO, my opinion etc etc etc.)

The title of this thread is "Are Chemtrails Increasing Worldwide?"

The answer is yes.

All anyone here needs to do is walk outside, look up at the sky and see it. There's the answer.

So what do we do?

We make a thread. Then instead of answering the question (see answer above) we move into a days long discussion about what chemtrails may be and why they may be spraying them. The days long discussion here is just an addition to the years long discussions all over the internet.

Everybody weighs in with their own IMO on what they could be. Ad nauseum.

When the answer is, chemtrails are not natural. Any other discussion should become irrelevant at this point and we should move on to:

"What do we DO about it? How do we stop it?"

But, we don't do that. We keep debating, discussing, weighing in with IMO's and useless talk while the people who are spraying them watch and laugh at us.

It's shameful.

i agree with your whole post...:mfr_omg::lmfao:

[Kundaflower]

Heya,

I understand Scarabs frustration, I been speaking long time about chemtrails
to anyone who dared to listen. :sleep_1:
I "interrogate" Government officials and demanted answers but never got one,
except "everything is fine" !:thumbdown:
Denial is so great that people dont see something that is front of their eyes.

What you gonna do ?

Enlighten people in a way that they can digest the truth.:gathering:

Being your self an example which makes them think that wow, such a nice
person ! If he says that about chemtrails i wanna listen and mayby there is some truth about it.

As individuals and collective we are free to express our opinion (in most countries) so as we personally broadcast the message we can together
make that too. Mayby some peacefull demonstration and coup to increase public awaraness.:mfr_omg:

Or you can take guns in your hand and make a show in order to get media
attention but most probably you will end getting a stamp of lunatic.:insane:

Media is under control and mayby some government officials, rest is just in
ignorance. So just speard the word !!
And when you have group like minded, spread the word!:trumpet:

When something start to "eat you" like being pi***d off with chemtrails,ease up ! Dont burn yourself, get charged by something else which lift you up.
Why ? because its so hard to be pi***d off and beacuse consiousness is like vortex...being pi***d off produces more being pi***d off and so on...:wall:

Take care of yourself and live your passion !
Peace
KF:wub2:

[Seashore]

How about a walk on Washington ... Problem is that just not enough people are aware and even if we had their ear, at this point all we can tell them is that it does happen but we dont' know why ... We can shake our finger at the White House but we don't have factual material enough to make a case....and the media surely will not help unless ...

I have come to the conclusion that public protest for a redress of grievances at this point in time is not a viable option, because the system is too corrupt.

We need to find out the facts (and I don't have a clue how to do that but others here may) and use the media we have been provided - Youtube - internet, etc....

I agree with this and the more people helping, the better.

I believe our only hope is that which is available to us on the internet.

I believe that those individuals who are carrying out the spraying of chemicals need to stop. Those of us who are aware of this problem need to appeal to those who are carrying out this spraying - to stop.

We need to use the internet as a communication device from which to speak to the minions of the powers that be.

[eleni]

Hopefully they will consider their actions karmically.......

[Scarab]

Hopefully they will consider their actions karmically.......

So your answer to what we DO is wait and hope they change their minds?

I am not picking on you personally here. But this is why they call us cattle.

[Earthian]

Going to fast,

If you mean that they are for our benefit than I would find that hard to believe.

But beliefs can change.... It would be nice to get some disclosure from our supposed government on the subject.... but as they have let us know time and time again, we are on our own.

Here is unkle David gives us a bit of a disclosure:wink2:.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8

[Earthian]

As for raising the awareness among "sleep walkers" there are many ways... People seem to through flyers, cards, they don't usually visit web sites such as this one or thousands of others, even after you spew all that you know to them for an hour or more so I thought of something that most of our fellow humans cherish and in love with- legal tender(paper ones).

Let's start chewing on our leash.:dog::groupwave:

[Seashore]

Hopefully they will consider their actions karmically.......



So your answer to what we DO is wait and hope they change their minds?


In addition to appealing to the minions to walk away from what they're doing, maybe we could look for ways to assist those who make their living this way to stop doing what they're doing - perhaps by offering help ourselves if we know someone doing this, or by offering general ideas through the internet, regarding how these minions might find a better, non-harmful way to earn their livelihood...

[burgundia]

How about a walk on Washington

And I think it is a great idea, even if it is done by 10 people. At least you will be seen by others. You might even become a tourist attraction for a moment....

[Bobbie]

I love this expression....chewing on our leash:lmao:

I doubt that the guys who are flying the planes know what they are releasing - in fact, neither do we for a 100% certainty and if there is someone who knows for a 100% certainty, we need to organize that information once we're convinced of it's accuracy and work from there. These operations are so compartmentalized that the right hand literally does not know what the left hand is doing. They are probably told it is to seed the atmospher with a protectant to keep harmful pollutants from getting to the people. For all I know that could be true....but I'm not thinking that is the case.

I do wonder though, when you see an absolute desert sky covered in the trails (like in a photo on this thread) what are they spraying for there? If there are no humans there, then what's the point, if this is for harmful purposes to the population. Why would they waste it on a barren desert? I am however concerned that they fill my skies almost every day.:mad3: If it is for good, why aren't they just up front about it. Trouble is, would we even believe them because the lies have been flowing freely for decades/centuries. Can anybody give me word of truth out there????:plane::plane::plane:


Let's start chewing on our leash.:dog::groupwave:

[wynderer]

Here's an interesting take on chemtrails from Stephanie Relfe of metatech.org

http://metatech.org/A06/chemtrails_reason_cause.htm

Scarab, i can't tell you how many people i've showed chemtrails to -- & how many had their eyes glaze over & change the subject -- i wonder if one of the main subliminals going out on the massmedia is in re the chemtrails -- i think that waking folks up to the reality & dangers of chemtrails is the same w/all the other dangers facing humanity, incl having their souls trapped for another hideous 'karmic' go-round under the nwo -- all we can do is to try to wake them up -- they have free will, & many are choosing willful ignorance & denial

it's frustrating

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

[Jonah]

Here is unkle David gives us a bit of a disclosure:wink2:.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8

Hello Earthian,

Wow. Sounds like he's telling Nato to get involved with the financial growth that comes with over population as well...:lmao:

Enter Our current administration...:naughty:

How has this been allowed to be swallowed for so long..:thumbdown:

The good news is.... Whatever happens they will claim victory... But victory is in the eye of the beholder isn't it...:lightsabre:

And somehow the sun (or suns) will come out tommorow...:smoke:

Who's planet do they think this is anyway....

[Scarab]

And somehow the sun (or suns) will come out tommorow...:smoke:


:mfr_lol:

YEP.

[Seashore]

I doubt that the guys who are flying the planes know what they are releasing...These operations are so compartmentalized that the right hand literally does not know what the left hand is doing. They are probably told it is to seed the atmospher with a protectant to keep harmful pollutants from getting to the people....

I feel that it is the responsibility of those who are in jobs where they're spraying anything into the atmosphere - to not assume anything - to pause and question what it is they're carrying out - to pay attention to what is being said on the internet - to consider what harm they might be doing. In the final analysis, we're all responsible for our own actions.

[Kundaflower]

Hi dear ones,:trumpet:

Here is priceles jewel for all those who have studied chemtrail phenomena
long time. It kind of connect the dots.

For beginner..... after this you will have easier time when you go trough
your own research...

Go to
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/fifth.htm

and choose June 2009 chemtrails...

Love and Peace
KF:wub2::wub2:

[Bobbie]

Thank you very much for that link - that is a very concise explanation and most important is her explanation of how to deal with it.

[Spiralina]

Contributing to this topic are some thoughts that I and my Witness have discussed as we sit on the porch each evening watching the sunset compete with artificial clouds. As another mentioned earlier, it's not natural. Neither is exhaust from internal combustion engines.

I can only suggest some things to counter affects.

Alkalize body to control fungus using minerals and proper water and diet.

Much can researched about this.

Ingesting clay supplements which have a chelating affect on the heavy metals in the body. There are other treatments routes to benefit from clay.

Much more can be researched about this.

Cayenne pepper (suppliments or make your own) to keeps the blood at a proper viscosity. If making your own, mix with other things like clay, slippery elm or marshmallow root powder and or spirilina or other bluegreens, are just some of the suggestions for daily use.

Much much more can be researched about this...

Epsom salts baths.

Orgone this and that, for here and there. Inlcuding necklaces.

And much more can researched about this.

All that's left to do then is connect the dots to learn the rational for the above suggestions/recommendations.


I scavenged this from the internet.. all rights to all for education. If it's on the net and useful, and can save time, I use it. grin.....



The job of mold fungi in nature is to degenerate, break down all biological material to their basic elements, and recycle them back to Mother Nature, from whence we came. Dust to Dust. The natural cycle of life.

They suck the moisture and nutrients, especially carbohydrate energy, out of our bodies in order to survive and grow. That is their nature whether it is in a pieice of wood as they turn it into dry rot, a piece of sheetrock, or the human body. It is just much more complex to seperate their causations from the domino of reactions and inter-reactions as the immune system forms immune complexes to counter these degenerative invaders.

To continue to ignore these engineers of biological material degeneration will only prolong the escallation of degenerative diseases deemed by the established medical establishment as only being able to be treated by drugs which make the drug companies richer and richer.

Once you truly understand how fungi, especially mold fungi we all inhale from our breathing environments, it becomes complexly simple to understand the significant role it plays in degenerating the operating systems of the human body, leading to the degenerative diseases. Once you understand this and apply the fungal factor to all these degenerative diseases their descriptions no longer end with the haunting phrase "and they don't know what causes it".

If the fungal factor was applied appropriately the following would happen. (i add fluoridate water)... 50-80% of all diseases and health ailments would no longer exist. The drugs which only treat the symptoms instead of the underlying causations would no longer be needed. The Drug companies would no longer be making billions of dollars off people continuing to be ill their whole lives. Mega medical fund raising organizations would disolve with many lost jobs. The medical facilities and supporting service companies would be greatly reduced with many lost jobs. The status quo would be in turmoil. Healthcare costs would no longer be skyrocketing. Medicare costs would dive and social security costs would go up with people living longer but, with a higher quality of life... end :mfr_omg:



As an aside....

For more health, stop smoking cigarettes. If you must smoke, be aware that cigarettes have an additional additive that extinquishes the flame at the tips.It was added last fall?. It's causing throat disturbances ex. chronic laryngitis and vocal cord troubles. And is more irritating to the lungs...You might check out the little cigars that so far doesn't have this additive in them... They are packaged like cigarettes but they are little cigars. They come in regular, peach, cherry and menthol.
I have no proof for this. I'm just keeping tabs on higher incidences of these throat troubles around and about. I began to notice when a young man I met was struck suddenly with chronic throat troubles who underwent surgery to remove the vocal cords. He's whispering now. Had I met him privious to the surgery I would have offered him a treatment option to try. But alas it was too late, he went to a doctor first.

Call me nuts. Won't be the first time.... :mfr_lol:

If this message troubles anyone... my apologies. And I'm open to correction if and when I'm wrong. Feel free to add helpful information which combats affects of environmental pollution and it's affects on health.

Warm Regards,

[Spiralina]

Uh oh, I forgot to mention when regarding fungi mold spores that have been found in lab samples of chemtrail materials that... eating raw garlic is one of the most Powerful (with a capital P) internal antifungal antibacterial going.


Contributing to this topic are some thoughts that I and my Witness have discussed as we sit on the porch each evening watching the sunset compete with artificial clouds. As another mentioned earlier, it's not natural. Neither is exhaust from internal combustion engines.

I can only suggest some things to counter affects.

Alkalize body to control fungus using minerals and proper water and diet.

Much can researched about this.

Ingesting clay supplements which have a chelating affect on the heavy metals in the body. There are other treatments routes to benefit from clay.

Much more can be researched about this.

Cayenne pepper (suppliments or make your own) to keeps the blood at a proper viscosity. If making your own, mix with other things like clay, slippery elm or marshmallow root powder and or spirilina or other bluegreens, are just some of the suggestions for daily use.

Much much more can be researched about this...

Epsom salts baths.

Orgone this and that, for here and there. Inlcuding necklaces.

And much more can researched about this.

All that's left to do then is connect the dots to learn the rational for the above suggestions/recommendations.


I scavenged this from the internet.. all rights to all for education. If it's on the net and useful, and can save time, I use it. grin.....



The job of mold fungi in nature is to degenerate, break down all biological material to their basic elements, and recycle them back to Mother Nature, from whence we came. Dust to Dust. The natural cycle of life.

They suck the moisture and nutrients, especially carbohydrate energy, out of our bodies in order to survive and grow. That is their nature whether it is in a pieice of wood as they turn it into dry rot, a piece of sheetrock, or the human body. It is just much more complex to seperate their causations from the domino of reactions and inter-reactions as the immune system forms immune complexes to counter these degenerative invaders.

To continue to ignore these engineers of biological material degeneration will only prolong the escallation of degenerative diseases deemed by the established medical establishment as only being able to be treated by drugs which make the drug companies richer and richer.

Once you truly understand how fungi, especially mold fungi we all inhale from our breathing environments, it becomes complexly simple to understand the significant role it plays in degenerating the operating systems of the human body, leading to the degenerative diseases. Once you understand this and apply the fungal factor to all these degenerative diseases their descriptions no longer end with the haunting phrase "and they don't know what causes it".

If the fungal factor was applied appropriately the following would happen. (i add fluoridate water)... 50-80% of all diseases and health ailments would no longer exist. The drugs which only treat the symptoms instead of the underlying causations would no longer be needed. The Drug companies would no longer be making billions of dollars off people continuing to be ill their whole lives. Mega medical fund raising organizations would disolve with many lost jobs. The medical facilities and supporting service companies would be greatly reduced with many lost jobs. The status quo would be in turmoil. Healthcare costs would no longer be skyrocketing. Medicare costs would dive and social security costs would go up with people living longer but, with a higher quality of life... end :mfr_omg:



As an aside....

For more health, stop smoking cigarettes. If you must smoke, be aware that cigarettes have an additional additive that extinquishes the flame at the tips.It was added last fall?. It's causing throat disturbances ex. chronic laryngitis and vocal cord troubles. And is more irritating to the lungs...You might check out the little cigars that so far doesn't have this additive in them... They are packaged like cigarettes but they are little cigars. They come in regular, peach, cherry and menthol.
I have no proof for this. I'm just keeping tabs on higher incidences of these throat troubles around and about. I began to notice when a young man I met was struck suddenly with chronic throat troubles who underwent surgery to remove the vocal cords. He's whispering now. Had I met him privious to the surgery I would have offered him a treatment option to try. But alas it was too late, he went to a doctor first.

Call me nuts. Won't be the first time.... :mfr_lol:

If this message troubles anyone... my apologies. And I'm open to correction if and when I'm wrong. Feel free to add helpful information which combats affects of environmental pollution and it's affects on health.

Warm Regards,

[Kundaflower]

Hei kaikki,:trumpet:

Thank you Spiralina for reminding us about the importance of good immune system...
I would like to add A.Vogels Echinaforce as good tool, for it activates and balances bodys own immunity system.
It also works to fungi.
Accordin lab tests it was best help against famous swine-flu...:shocked:

And about smoking..:smoke:
Here some cigar shops sell pure tobaggo plant in cigarette boxes and bulk stuff..
They look like normal cigarette but inside is pure virginia tobacco plant without any additive.:thumb_yello:
And yes, they go out if you dont suck enough:lol3:
And yes, it tastes great...:original:

My frends bring it to in our country from Europe but funny thing is that in the box and bags authoritys dont allow a word pure tobacco or no additives!!!
Also any normal retail shop cannot take them for sale because they are
bind by their contracts with larger corporations...:lol3:

Peace..
KF:wub2:

[Seashore]

And about smoking..:smoke:
Here some cigar shops sell pure tobaggo plant in cigarette boxes and bulk stuff..
They look like normal cigarette but inside is pure virginia tobacco plant without any additive.:thumb_yello:
And yes, they go out if you dont suck enough:lol3:
And yes, it tastes great...:original:

My frends bring it to in our country from Europe but funny thing is that in the box and bags authoritys dont allow a word pure tobacco or no additives!!!
Also any normal retail shop cannot take them for sale because they are
bind by their contracts with larger corporations...:lol3:



Very interesting.

[TigaHawk]

I'm new to the whole scene here, but have looked into chemtrails lightly before.

I live in Australia, i havent seen any (i think) over brisbane, but i may not know what to look for.

Thanks for the wealth of information provided here, its giving me alot to think about.


One thing for sure tho, i knew without having come to this site, is the world today is sickening, full of greed and the growing obsession with the need to controll every aspect of people's lives. When will someone or something put their foot down and put a stop to this? :wall:

[Luminari]

I'm new to the whole scene here, but have looked into chemtrails lightly before.

I live in Australia, i havent seen any (i think) over brisbane, but i may not know what to look for.

Thanks for the wealth of information provided here, its giving me alot to think about.


One thing for sure tho, i knew without having come to this site, is the world today is sickening, full of greed and the growing obsession with the need to controll every aspect of people's lives. When will someone or something put their foot down and put a stop to this? :wall:


I'm grateful I don't live in Brisbane anymore, though I do remember one very severe chemtrail spraying over BrisVegas about 2 to 2/12 years ago, I remember telling people at work to take heaps of vitamins to conteract any ill effects, they just rolled their eyes at me and laughed as usual. Over the next 2 days everyone got a severe form of what the local media began calling a 'new strain of super-flu' which lasted for weeks and effected a huge percentage of the population.

It wasn't a common occurance though TigaHawk... its the only 100% obvious Chemtrails I remember seeing over a 7 years period I was there.. there may have been others.

[Seashore]

I remember telling people at work to take heaps of vitamins to conteract any ill effects

Luminari,

I admire you that you took that step.