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shortyz504
09-13-2008, 09:26 PM
Its now time. We can no longer put off the work before us.

The task at hand: Create a Vision of the BEST POSSIBLE WORLD.

I would like to hear everyone's interpretation of how bad ass this world COULD BE.

No idea will can possibly be any more boring than the game we are currently playing.

So let your imaginations go and tell us what you want from the next world we are fixing to enter.

Ideally we can all agree upon the BEST POSSIBLE SCENARIO and manifest it!!!

Our future is a blank canvass, and your ideas are the medium.

Love you all and can't wait to see you WHEN WE ALL HAVE FREE ENERGY!!! :)


Stay Classy Project Avalon!!!

lock'N'load
09-13-2008, 09:31 PM
I have chosen my occupation.

I firmly believe that we must do this one by one. Each person do their part.

I will be a teacher of higher wisdom, a teacher of spirit and enlightenment where i will try my best to cast light on the many lies.

If i do not do this i feel my existance is futile and pointless, I am empty now other then what i can give others.

I'm starting my career in Neuro Linguistic Programming and it is with this that i hope to teach more effectivly then the current institutes of education.

Namaste

conjuredUp
09-13-2008, 09:38 PM
On a cosmic level I see...

peace
acceptance
no need for any gadgets to communicate
no need for electricity as we are all powerhouses
buildings made of crystal
a clean sky of cerulean blue
no division
no leaders
just us
thrilling in our creations
not imposing or impacting
just loving.

Yeah... that's what I see.

shortyz504
09-13-2008, 09:43 PM
yea!!

that sounds like a rockstar lifestyle. i dig it

clayman
09-13-2008, 10:57 PM
From spiritual growth comes everything else, that sounds logical to me, if logic exists at all..
Because if the spirit is balanced relative to the ultimate "pivot" of the galaxy and the Creator I like to call God, then everything else falls into place nicely. So keep faith. :smoke:

Northboy
09-13-2008, 11:12 PM
Commonwealth designed to empower the people in their pursuit of free will and the opportunity to pursue it.

Economy based on carbon products of various sorts with a balanced mix of all skills and trades to ensure self-determination.

Decentralized decision making and the resources to put plans into action.

Support the live arts as the nation follows its conscience and its culture.

That would be a good start.

Mike_Jetson
09-13-2008, 11:52 PM
I clicked the 2 most popular ones. Native lifestyle and spiritual important. One and the same reallly

stresswon
09-14-2008, 12:32 AM
I may be bias as an American, but i choose Democracy as it was intended. Of course the founding fathers we're slave owning asses, but we have rules set in place and we should abide by them. thats from my POV in the States. As in the world, we need to just love one another and learn from eachother.

sjkted
09-14-2008, 12:49 AM
I have given some thought to this. It's one thing to say we are the change and will create a bright new future. As far as government has been concerned, this is always the campaign in politics and looking back in history it doesn't seem to matter who gets into power -- the same problems have always existed.

My answer is more in terms of a vision than an actual structure, because I think the world has tried virtually every type of government and economic practice and they all have various pros and cons, but all eventually seem to become tyrannical. In order for this to work, we need to let go of most of our mental constructs that have kept us in a minimally-functional state. So, here's what I have come up with:

Everyone agrees on a vision of maximum possibilities for life situations.
Everyone is free to lead their own life and live the way they like so long as they do not infringe on other's freedoms and rights. There are absolutely minimal restrictions that keep a person "trapped" in a situation such as the mortgage that needs to be paid, the college degree that needs to be finished, the divorce that can't happen because of the children, etc. These problems only exist because our society is so rigid and doesn't permit a multitude of different life scenarios.

- Everyone works together to make the weak stronger.
Instead of exploiting weakness, people realize that having a weak person presents a liability for everyone. Exploitation only teaches that it's possible to win a zero-sum game -- meaning that there is one winner and one loser. In reality, a person who exploits another makes everyone weaker in exchange for temporary gain. Therefore, it is in everyone's best interest to get together to help a weak person get stronger. As a civilization, we are only as strong as our weakest link.

- End hero worship.
Everyone is capable of extraordinary things and everyone must take self-responsibility for their own life. Worshipping celebrities, false Gods, leaders, etc. only abdicates an individual's own power and makes them weaker.

- Everyone realizes that we are all from the same source
Namaste -- The light in me sees the light in you. We all respect each individual's truth which means that not all truths are universal. It has been said that the seeds of war are born through the false thought that we are separate. Imagine that from a truth standpoint the United States invading Iraq (or any other war ever) is about as logical as a person self-mutilating their body because they are unhappy with what they are experiencing.

Personal Development is encouraged.
Instead of corralling children into a school system that generates uniformity, each person is encouraged to start chartering their a life course at a very early age. We are all unique individuals. We all came here for a specific purpose. We are all teachers and students. The educational system must be horizontal instead of vertical. I would imagine that in a spiritually-advanced society, the parents could get a soul/spiritual reading on a young child to determine what their path is here and start to involve the child in activities that will be beneficial for him/her later. When the child is old enough to understand their path, s(he) can start making decisions on how to develop.

- Find a way to make money irrelevant.
My thought is that the only way this will work is to find a new environmental-friendly cheap source of energy. Some people say there are free energy sources that are being suppressed. If we don't have one, research and development for one should be a top goal. If we could provide energy free of charge to everyone, the price of most staples such as food, water and clothing could drop to practically nothing and people could focus on things more important than just paying the bills and the day-to-day hum-ho routine. I believe this would also prevent much crime as there would be no real benefit in stealing basic resources.

Truth must be respected at all time.
It is unnacceptable at any time for the government to lie to its citizens, parents to lie to their children, or corporations to lie to their customers. Having an elected official or other community leader lie for personal gain or to manipulate is viewed as a criminal act. Our world must be built on truth, which means that everyone must be equally informed. If we build our realities on lies ,everyone becomes weaker.

Government is much smaller and more limited than it is right now.
With a population of extremely strong citizens, there is no need for a strong government to take care of the weak.

Encourage spirituality and spiritual exploration.
Raising the vibrational level of all life seems to be much more effective at fixing problems than creating a system of regulations and controls.

Traditional and alternative medicine must merge.
Traditional medicine is good for some things such as first aid to treat immediate problems. On the other hand, alternative medicine and self-healing is much more effective to prevent sickness/suffering. It is completely unacceptable that traditional medicine turns a deaf ear to alternatives simply because they can't be scientifically proven.

--sjkted

man_is_the_bastard
09-14-2008, 12:55 AM
I fathom a world that is free of all borders, free of pollution, filled with life and a place where people are more connected to nature. Less government and more individuality, but at the same time sharing a strong connection to everyone.

Nenuphar
09-14-2008, 01:16 AM
I like this thread. :)

In my ideal world? If anything was possible? Off the top of my head...


Large....HUGE...community gardens - vegetables, fruit, herbs, and flowers - run year 'round by a mix of employees and volunteers...housed in large greenhouses in the winter, where the climate is colder...and the produce is made available to the communities in which it's grown...students in school and university can get credit for learning about growing food and/or for volunteering in the gardens.

With the widespread use of FREE ENERGY (please, God, hurry up!), people no longer have to do jobs that are not fulfilling in order to "earn a living", to pay the bills. The new reality will be that the majority of people do what gives them joy, what pleases them, what contributes to the community. Money is no longer the primary drive to work, or the major factor in career choice. Bartering/exchanging services and goods plays a much bigger role in the economy. People are generous and fair.

Because obtaining money (see above) is no longer such a huge necessity, more people are able to focus on creating a home, nurturing children (their own and/or others), and caring for the elderly the way they deserve to be cared for. (It might sound cheesy, but I know if I wasn't required to go to work every day, if bills and earning money wasn't such an issue, I would love to be at home, puttering, cooking wholesome food, creating a nice environment in which to live, spending more time connecting with my neighbors, and caring for animals).


I would LOVE to see a QUIET, non-polluting, speedy mono-rail transportation system within communities and connecting major communities.


Better yet...one of the Project Camelot interviewees (as well as some others) have described certain craft that are silent and that travel based on the intention you hold in your mind. I think it would be an amazing thing if that became the norm...if people could travel 5 or 500 or 5000kms in these kinds of crafts, if they were accessible to all. Just think...no pollution...speedy travel...no more noise from vehicles...and as someone who does not drive, I would LOVE to be able to get from place to place simply by holding the intention in my mind! *L* :thumb_yello:


Holo-deck community centres (a la Star Trek) are available to everyone for educational and recreational purposes. The learning possibilities would be endless with this kind of resource, it's exciting to think about. :roll1:



Nenuphar

shortyz504
09-14-2008, 01:34 AM
Now thats a good one Nenuphar. I dig the Free Energy part for sure. I am using those ideas in my dream of the future.

-HERES A THOUGHT-

How about in our next society, we place a big emphasis on music and try to get everyone to learn to play and instrument, sing, and dance.

Not only learn to play, but evolve past the professional mastery, but where we are all so musically talented that we only communicate in the form of a musical production.

I figure by then we will all have ESP and will know which notes the others are thinkin of playin.

So if someone is angry you can all play a brooding melody. Or if you see a couple in love walk by you can sing of matters from the heart.

And if you see someone playing football you could play the Hank Williams Monday Night Football anthem. :)

Kris Riley
09-14-2008, 01:49 AM
It would be nice to lose the internet and do all of this psychic some how. The only way would be to raise the vibrations of everyone together, including those who deny their awareness of it. I agree with the Shortyz above post. More music flowing in the mix without the stigma of corporate control. Love it. I also agree with Nenuphar. We're so close to free energy we can taste it. That magnetic motor biz is just what one needs to power a small 12 volt setup. Modify it to work in its own box and it would do some fun stuff.

I also like the idea the American Native life, but I also like to play with electricity. Wouldn't mind living very low key with it though. We really don't need that much to get by.

MartyMcFailure
09-14-2008, 01:53 AM
that is a great idea. i am a singer songwriter and i have been writing regularly for about 8 years since i was 15 and i feel like my music is my truest and most honest comminucation. it also reminds me of the family guy episode with the genie where peter asks for his own theme music haha.

rustanddust
09-14-2008, 01:55 AM
Nenuphar your vision sounds awesome! I truely believe that if humans were just...left the f*ck alone we would naturally orient ourselves towards peaceful, productive and nurturing ways of life. war, poverty and violence are the result of countless millenia of indocrination, brainwashing and spiritual starvation. the world as it is now is not the result of human nature but an artifical construct forced on us specifically to hold us down. its time we took the power back.

also, while I think reverting to the Native American way of life would certainly be a HUGE improvement over what we have now, its not really ideal.....I mean, the Mayans were great but they performed genocide regularly for blood sacrifices.... and the Egyptians had slavery. we gotta make our own way now.

Kris Riley
09-14-2008, 01:59 AM
I agree totally with you Rust and Dust. Very good point about the Mayans and you're right. We do need to make our own way. It's unique now and similar to before. I fully believe that humanity has faced similar problems time and time again from way way back. It seems that the war mongers are always the ones who control though. I wish that we could somehow infiltrate the minds of the ones keeping the vibe so low down and raise it with love.

Morgan
09-14-2008, 02:27 AM
#1 - BRILLIANT thread.

#2 - Nenuphar - I am so down with the community gardens, with the free energy, less emphasis on money/bills/economy, nonpolluting transport or intention-directed transport... I think I'm going to jazz that up in a Word file, print it out, and hang it in some spots around my home so that maybe by repeatedly thinking of it, it will become a reality at some point.

#3 - shortyz, YES to music! Yes to the ESP making jam sessions the most amazing, synched up experiences one can have... I play bass and am teaching myself piano, I credit music for playing a major component of the forces that have shaped who I am - at least this go around at incarnation.

And finally, I'm glad to see 2 others picked waterballoons/pillow fights/paintball wars to settle differences :P

whitecrow
09-14-2008, 02:28 AM
IF a world can come about that is populated by people who are first and foremost kind, good, charitable, tolerant, dedicated to peace and as well to sustainability, and IF those characteristics are required of anyone and everyone who desires to lead, then it almost doesn't matter what kind of government we have. If greed and lust for power can be seen to be sickness, totally socially unacceptable, then any system will do. I still favor republican democracy, but that system is totally unworkable when the mass of the citizenry is self-absorbed, uninvolved and ignorant. What'll it take to get us from here to there? I think we're starting to find out.

Nenuphar
09-14-2008, 03:05 AM
Did I mention how much I LOVE this thread?! :woot_jump: Thank you so much for starting it. I have really enjoyed reading the posts and find myself thinking of even more ideas after I've logged off while doing mundane things like washing the dishes. *L*



How about in our next society, we place a big emphasis on music and try to get everyone to learn to play and instrument, sing, and dance.

Not only learn to play, but evolve past the professional mastery, but where we are all so musically talented that we only communicate in the form of a musical production.



YES!! :harp: Wouldn't that be amazing? I never learned to play an instrument and it used to drive me bonkers that I couldn't write music as in my late teens/early 20s I'd sometimes wake up having songs in my head and would sit there desperately trying to figure out how to get the melody written from the basic music theory I learned in grade 4! HA! Music is crucial to people's well-being, as far as I am concerned. It would be fantastic to have it be more integrated in every day life, something that children just learned and participated in as they grew up.


And dancing, well...wow. I used to love to dance. I haven't danced since I was a little girl.


On the subject of envisioning the world we want, here's a blurb I sent in a PM to someone this evening:

You know, when I originally decided to think of what my ideal future/world would be (about a month ago, in bed, before falling asleep, after watching some online interviews), I was actually shocked at how difficult it was initially to let my mind go there. My mind would wander off onto day-to-day worries, or I would find myself immediately nixing the idea/vision because it was "not realistic" and "could never happen". I had to repeatedly tell myself that it was ok to let myself imagine what I wanted even if it seemed unrealistic, and I had to approach it like a game of make believe to make my mind stop veering off to other things. It took a few nights of this before FINALLY I could stay with the ideas and flesh them out a bit...and then I started to get excited about what I was imagining. It became irrelevant, not knowing how the ideas would come to pass, or even if they would.


Has anyone else had this experience? It being difficult at first to allow yourself to think of the world being drastically different (better)?

Nenuphar

rustanddust
09-14-2008, 03:47 AM
it is! some times I would just sit and think about all the problems there are in the world(children starving. disease, broken relationships and hate, war, rape, abuse etc etc) and how many and how huge, insurmountable they are and just get depressed thinking "we are never going to get out of this." I knew for a long time that the final step, the goal of human evolution was many becoming one to become god. and I just believed we would never get there since we would probably all just kill ourselves before managing that! but I'm starting to change my mind.

shortyz504
09-14-2008, 03:50 AM
Has anyone else had this experience? It being difficult at first to allow yourself to think of the world being drastically different (better)?



YES! thats why it seems like a good idea to develope the art of creatively envisioning the world YOU want regardless of what anyone else says is POSSIBLE.

Plus i dont want to trade this world for another lame one.

O yea I think we should have a reward system for making people laugh in the future. just a thought

ForsakenFalcon
09-14-2008, 03:52 AM
native and spiritual life style's for the win.
As a male Australian I don't dance I just hold My beer & ciggy and tap My foot to the beat. However Danceing around half naked around a massive bond fire with tribal music going and screaming out enchartation's to the spirit's sound's kind of fun =D

conjuredUp
09-14-2008, 03:54 AM
I am soooooo manifesting some of this amazing visions yall have posted for our future earth.

When can we leave?? :-)
Let's all be there.
BE THERE NOW.

Believe it as you read the words we are writing.
Believe what resonates for you and you will bring it to fruition.

I love you all madly.
We are all such beautiful souls with delicious differences.

:-)

Nenuphar
09-14-2008, 04:26 AM
As a male Australian I don't dance I just hold My beer & ciggy and tap My foot to the beat. However Danceing around half naked around a massive bond fire with tribal music going and screaming out enchartation's to the spirit's sound's kind of fun =D

HAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! :mfr_lol: That made me literally laugh out loud! (Though I'm right there with you at the bonfire, my friend!)

I love the idea of a reward system for making people laugh in the future. :thumb_yello: Let's start now...the first reward points go to ForsakenFalcon for making me almost spit my tea out on the computer screen I laughed so hard! (Okay, not a lady-like image, but it's what happened) :tongue2:

Nenuphar

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Morgan
09-14-2008, 05:20 AM
native and spiritual life style's for the win.
As a male Australian I don't dance I just hold My beer & ciggy and tap My foot to the beat. However Danceing around half naked around a massive bond fire with tribal music going and screaming out enchartation's to the spirit's sound's kind of fun =D

I just imagined if we had a big half-naked bonfire with everybody from this forum :lmfao: :lmao:

Oh dear tears in my eyes, so awesome. (Thank you for that!)

recallone
09-14-2008, 06:13 AM
Great post! Terrific energy on this one, MAJOR resonance.
sjkted, Nenuphar,...well said. Ditto.
I needed to be reminded, shorty, that music absolutely can and will be a major part of our future. I've been selling off my gear and getting ready to dismantle my recording equipment here, lately - so I've had my own little personalized lesson in detachment. I'm thinking "I can get by for a while with just a hand-drum" and anxiously anticipating the next step in our musical ability. Personally, I see a device that will allow you to immediately hear and record a song (or a symphony! if you want), all in your mind. I hear entire bands playing the music that's in my head - its the individual recording of those parts that's the obstacle.
The McMusic:You think it - ding - here's your symphony, please drive through.
Yeah, that sounds good to me. I'd trade a head of lettuce or two for that.:biggrin2:

I love you guys. This is the balance that's necessary right now, even here - amongst a population of awake and informed individuals. Keep the love strong and focused, every little ting...gonna be alright.
Peace

By the way, sjkted - please, please, please give me the phonetic spelling of your moniker! I'm making myself crazy trying to pronounce it:blink:

Jnana
09-14-2008, 07:27 AM
Thanks for starting this thread.

It's time to let go of the past. Modern life is a prison built on lies. Most people here already know this or are beginning to. The future you envision need bear no resemblance whatsoever to the matrix we live in. Free yourself. My vision begins with knowing:


Humanity Shall Know the Truth
From this all things flow

Humanity shall know the truth about how they are being deceived by the media, government, and organized religion. From this flows freedom.

Humanity shall know the truth about their origins and history. From this flows wisdom.

Humanity shall know the truth about the Universal Laws and how to apply them. From this flows personal responsibility.

Humanity shall know the truth about their eternal spirit and relationship to the Creation. From this flows peace on earth.

Humanity shall know the truth about extraterrestrial visitors – their purpose for being here, their culture, and where they come from. From this flows opportunity.

Humanity shall know the truth about technology that can provide unlimited non-polluting energy, freedom from the bounds of gravity, and travel across the vast distances of interstellar space. From this flows a glorious future.

Once humanity knows the truth, the earth shall become a full member of the Galactic Community.

man_is_the_bastard
09-14-2008, 08:03 AM
Excellent post Jnana. gives me the idea of a everyone living limitlessly and like Gods like Neo from the Matrix, ha.

Optimystica
09-14-2008, 11:30 AM
I think free energy is the greatest idea (apart from laughing, music, bonfire and lots of healthy sex). And in my dream free energy means no worry about eating, that is free energy for human beings, so we would only have to worry about creating, where everyone will have time to think (laugh, music, dance, teach, learn, sex...). Where we would just run out of excuses for doing things, and trying things and being nice to others.

I'm so glad to know thre are some others with dreams about a peaceful and fulfilling future... thanks to everyone for giving me hope :thumb_yello:

Coké.

conjuredUp
09-14-2008, 01:26 PM
One thing I keep meaning to add....

If anyone has to be the leader?
It needs to be a kid.

The children now KNOW.
They remember who they are.

I've stopped trying to beat that power out of mine.
It is magical to see.

LOVELOVELOVE

shortyz504
09-15-2008, 03:38 AM
I think a global water balloon fight day would be pretty sweeeetttt.


with some beatles playin in all stereos

azul
09-15-2008, 12:53 PM
I agree with you!

I think laugh is the first sound of human music.

A strong hug from Sintra, Portugal.

:roll1:
:roftl:
:roll1:

Carrie Todd
09-18-2008, 04:00 PM
To quote Frankenfurter, "Don't dream it, be it". Odd source, but words to live by. Excellent thread. Have you considered incorporating visual art into your musical world? Involve as many senses as possible to make it a truly beautiful place.

shortyz504
09-18-2008, 10:06 PM
i never thought of that. i will have submit that to the future committe in which we will all be equal memebers. By we i mean the human race.

SynchrOMicity
09-20-2008, 07:13 PM
Without a Vision the people perish.
All people would understand our inner connectedness (spirit).
All would understand to hurt anyone you are hurting yourself.
The GOLDEN RULE ruled.
All would understand, you cannot keep taking from mother earth and not give back.
All technologies suppressed and new ones would be used to create the energy needed to provide for all. Without destroying our home, planet earth.
Love would be the driving force instead of greed.
Nature would be nurtured, instead of destroyed.
WE would clean up the mess we all created.
The old would teach the young.
Natural farming would rebound.
Natural healing would flourish.
There would be no need for war, basics of survival being met through higher technology
The tribes of the earth would all share.
People would realize, bigger, faster, smaller is not so important.
All would live in a state of perpetual gratitude.
All arts would flourish.
We would reconnect to the stars.

Note: My brother says this is a pipe dream!
John Lennon, a dreamer and not the only one.

Peace tOM

WiNaDeYo
09-20-2008, 11:17 PM
Hey folks! I'm new here....just joined this evening. Happened onto this thread and you guy's are a blast! I'm all in for the Paradise you're working on!

I, too, chose the Native scene, but I do agree that the technological comforts and the spiritual awareness are a must! And Music and Dance... and bonfies, YES!

PS: my nick means "I am of the Great Spirit" in Cherokee.

Nenuphar
09-21-2008, 03:16 PM
I would also love to see free health & rejuvenation centers that offer many forms of bodywork, energy work, and healing... massage, reflexology, aromatherapy, reiki, saunas and steam rooms...all in a beautiful setting...art galleries and various themes of gardens (e.g., Victorian, Japanese) incorporated into the centers...waterfalls...beautiful, peaceful stained glass nooks for reflection and meditation...soft music...small areas in the gardens and galleries when live music can be enjoyed... :harp:

The following concept exists now (Snoezelen rooms), but I'd love to see the same thing available to and geared towards everyone, and kicked up a notch with the aid of hologram technology...I think it could be an awe-inspiring, cocoon-like, cozy, experience...here are some links to give you a general idea what I'm talking about...but imagine the same type of thing in a "hologram room" setting. So neat!


http://www.shalomvillage.on.ca/Snoezelen.htm

Better yet, click HERE (http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&resnum=0&q=snoezelen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi) !


Nenuphar :cheerful_h4h:

Natoka
09-21-2008, 03:47 PM
What a wonderful gathering of people and Ideas! I suspect we sometimes felt alone with our hopes and dreams for the future seeing it formed ' the way it ought to be', but that was before this thread. Thanks to each of you for your openness and wisdoms.

I believe that most of us found resonance with the others post and recognized we, too, had thought along the lines presented though not with the same words. I'd like to tell you I was dumbfounded with the posts because most of them seemed to be paraphrasing what I have written over the past year and a half. (Two finished books of a trilogy based on a peoples' evolution following the 2012 catastrophe.) I felt validated by your independent expression of my own hopes and dreams. I'm sure this was a common occurrence for may of us. Till later, Natoka

Racsouran
09-21-2008, 03:51 PM
i see a 1984, well, i see it now already.

Book
09-21-2008, 04:28 PM
I believe we should return to living as closely with and to the land as possible. This lifestyle encourages and nurtures the spirituality and peace that many are seeking.

Go well,
Book

Bodhi
09-21-2008, 07:51 PM
First time poster, here in Avalon, and glad to be here :original:

Let me first fall into the choir; great thread :thumb_yello:

So, there's a lot of interesting things to be said, obviously, so from a philosophical/historical viewpoint, here it goes:


1. Goverment

When looking into the future, remembering our past is critical. We have, as earlier post mentioned, been through all kinds of different ways of organizing society, and there are many lessons to be collected from this. Unfortunately, there are some characteristics that has repeated themselves over the ages. Two of them in particular is monumentaly unfair distribution and that our organizations utilizes an ego-intelligence function.

In regards to the distribution problem, one could imagine a system that a) recognizes that survival is a human right. Including everything that is needed to live in a fashion compatible with a generously constructed idea of human dignity. To work would not be a requirement. You are always provided for, no matter what. Our resources are definitely there to achieve this. We just need to overcome the fear that too many will take the "easy way out", and just lay around all day. In my view, and experience, this is simply not likely to happen. Knowing that you are provided for, attention turns to focus on the creative, and it alleviates enormous amounts of fear. Free of that fear, the entrepreneurial force on this planet would boom beyond belief. Talking about technology we could only begin to imagine what that would spur. The human psyche wants[I] to be passionately involved in something. We have an almost hard-wired drive to be skillfully and meaningfully engaged in our world, and what in it we find ourselves loving.
... and b) have a system in place where all money-transactions (get to the details of that in a sec.) are transparent. Perhaps initially just the ones that exceeds a certain amount. This is a simple way of making it incredibly hard (or harder) to engage in any kind of activity misplacing large amounts of value, or to facilitate unjust distribution of resources.

And the ego-intelligence function then. By this I mean a centralized organizing factor such as government. Ponder this for a second;
Are you familiar with the concept of [I]emergence(not emergency)?. Emergence is a phenomenon that happens when many small "stupid" parts, together form an intelligent system, without any of the parts being in control, or even knowing the structure of the whole. Take an ant-farm for example. No one ant - not even the queen - has any idea how the colony works. Yet it does, with military precision. So what happens is that the system becomes transcendent over its parts. Ebay is another example. Instead of having one ego-intelligence judging the credibility of all sellers and the validity of all buyers, which would be monstrously ineffective, they instead installed a rating system by which the system became self-regulatory. So no one controls the market, because the market in-it-self does a better job than any one intelligence could.

Now call me a romantic, but if ants could do it... why shouldn't we be able to? Obviously our situation requires a much more sophisticated system, but the principle is nevertheless sound. We mistake ourselves when we talk of which government is best, when we should at least strife to become a naturally self-regulatory system. This is not anarchy, mind you. There is method to this madness :bleh:, just that we together, when letting go of trying to control the system, become a system that transcends the intelligence of our individuality.

On a final note here, it also must be understood that this transition are not likely or desirable to happen over night. Such a system would be very vulnerable to the predatory behavior of the few, so it's potential for being realized grows in proportion as we grow. It is not a black and white situation, but could in my opinion easily be achieved during the course of a century, or maybe so little as a human lifetime. Just get people to believe it's possible, and how to do that? See point a)


Eventually though, I think it's going to be an escapable part of our evolution to head for world government. But as Paul Warburg (the creator of the Federal Reserve system) stated - and I agree; We will have world government. The only question is if it will be by conquest or consent Right now it's happening by conquest. But if could somehow solve our immediate problems, we could create a world government not only by consent, but one that encompasses connection as its founding mechanism. That is; the government would grow from our independence & self-sufficiency, self-regulatory system, to be merely a manifestation of our connection to each other. Imagine a psychic network (as someone did earlier in this thread), interlinked with its representatives. That power is latent within us. Some of us (myself not included yet :sad:) have already done this, so it is definitely, without a doubt possible.

Imagine an Internet of psyches, where we not only share information, but also memories, experiences, emotions and insights. That, would without a doubt, change everything.

I think that this will be the first signs of the next step in our physical/biological evolution. And it's happening right now! Holy sh*t...

2. Morality

I'm currently involved in constructing an eco-village (albeit were still only in planning stages), and I found myself philosophizing over laws and regulations. I imagined there being some sort of monument in the center of the village with an engraving on it. This below was my first draft (please excuse that for many of you these are klichés;

* The Earth is sacred, and must be treated as such. As we form our environment to suit our purposes, we must do so in a fashion that does not damage the equilibrium, for this we are part of as well. We seek to find our place WITHIN the ecology of our surroundings, not to create a new one that does not harmonize with what nature has already provided.
* The intentions of all intelligence matters, and through the grace of Infinite Intelligence, our intentions also creates the next step in the casual chain. We are all personally responsibly for everything that happens within our world. We vow to have built this community with good intentions, and with this instrument, we work for a future that will see love, great logic, understanding, harmony and happiness evolve to new heights.
* Consciousness is sacred, and we hold the exploration of this consciousness to be an intrinsical part of every individuals spiritual journey. The means we utilize in this purpose are as sacred as our intentions for using them, and the moral quality of these same means is in proportion to the extent they have the weight of reason on their side.
* We are all one, and this one is what we call God. Enlightenment is the process in which we little by little remember more about this nature, and our place in it. While exctacy belongs to the pure hearted, all victory belongs to God, for the victories we seek for ourselves, are not true until they are victories for everyone.
* We hold that no society of any size is functional over time that has not an integrated system in place for the personal development of the individual. The development of society takes place alongside the development of the consciousness of the individuals inhabiting it.
* All systems of control must be created for the ends of something good within itself. A control-system for the purpose of utility, is only as good as this gained utility facilitates a natural good, such as freedom or happiness. Utility or control for its own sake quickly turns to an undebated routine, and left unchecked, this will give birth to confusion and illusions about our journey through life. In the time of the great shift, the pursuit of this road without a heart nor elevation, has almost killed the entire planet, and this, must never be forgotten.
* Freedom is the natural state, and any infringement on this state must be justified not only with consent but also with logic. As soon as this logic is no longer sound, the infringement must end. All intelligent beings are free to find their own way to enlightenment, as long as this does not obstruct or harm any others.
* Respect for everything is the sign of the growing. Happiness before everything is the sign of the wise. Love for everything is the sign of the Enlightened. These states are good in and of themselves. We hold it as our responsibility to contribute in whatever way we are fit to the achievement of these states in anyone that enters our world, as long as our contribution harmonizes with that persons freedom and sovereignity.
* Only sentient beings can ever be recognized to have the rights of personhood. Abstract or intangible constructions, such as companies or foundations, may never have them, for given them, they will in time grow to become monsters with no masters. This power must come with responsibility and accountability, for power in the wrong hands, turns into poison.
* We hold the concept of ownership as a tool for our ability to organize the material world around us, and our collaboration within it. It has no other justification, and is not a distinction made by nature. It is therefore not absolute, but should always be respected insofar as it furthers our strive to share this life in peace.

Pheew... So anyway, these are not laws. It is a common acknowledgement of a basic smallest denominator version of common sense and lessons learned. Gonna work a little more on them later. Somewhat blurry at the moment...

I once heard an alternative interpretation of the ten commandments (from Neale Donald Walsch - or God as he states it). That they were roadsigns, and not commandments. If you are on the right track, you will not cheat on your wife, you would not steal from your neighbor, and so on. When we recognize ourselves in what the "roadsign" says, we know we are heading the right way. Interesting brain-food when contemplating a new legal system. Could this hippie-**** ;-) actually be applicable? I think so...

3. Money

So here is the deal. Money by definition is nothing more than "the most commonly accepted medium of exchange". This is neutral. Money is not evil, it simply is. What you would need is a currency based on real value, instead of debt. Wont go into details here, but I agree with Jefferson (think it was him...), that ...the creation of currency is not only governments most sacred responsibility, it is also it's greatest creative opportunity - or something to that effect...

You just need a way to make it fit a self-regulatory system. I think that can be achieved by letting it successfully grow from smaller units to bigger, as the hard end-of-the-line basis for the currencies value becomes standardized for a growing number of communities.

4. Music

I honestly don't think we're gonna need to lift a finger for this one. This will take care of itself. I'm a composer, and I can tell you, that just like the artist who "saw" the horse in the giant block of marble, and with his chisel and hammer just sets it free, music is already "out there". Above us in some weird way, already written but waiting to be set free. It is as if it is given to a musician. Do you think that someone playing solo plans every note? No, but it flows seamless nevertheless. It just comes to you. It is not something we can loose, any more than we can loose the ability to be born with two legs.

5. Family

Another great idea from a book (many books actually) is that children should be raised in small collectives, with the first guardian being grandparents. Most people have their first child roughly around 30, or much sooner depending on where you look. Which means when they are only children themselves. And by then you have so much things left that you need to experience. Your journey has just begun, and though we love them dearly, children are not always practical to have around. Imagine that the community (in very small scale at first) stood up to help, under the supervision of the elder members of the childs own family. I bet the grandparents would love to have their grand-children around them at the dawn of their life. It seems as if we gravitate towards that sentiment, as we grow older.

And of course the parents would not be excluded from this circle. They would become an intimate part, but with the understanding that they are themselves still in school. And that it is still important for them to experience things for themselves, alone on the road.



Jeeps this post became long. I'll leave the speaker-stick now for a while :original:



It is mans destiny to learn, and to throw himself in to new and undiscovered worlds Juan Matos

Bodhi
09-21-2008, 08:28 PM
Oh, forgot...

Natoka, the books you've mentioned writing. LOVE the idea. Would gladly take a look. How do I find them?

For everyone else, check out Aldous Huxleys "Island". It's about an experimental utopia, and has a ton of good stuff in it. Serious brain-food.

Dusty Nothing
09-21-2008, 08:44 PM
I hold many visions for our inevitable and eventual future, in the mean time I am very into the idea of introducing a new constitution (no offence to those in the u.s, but the people up top don't seem to be paying much mind to those old ones) i believe this constitution should be to do with the ''Rights of the Mind'' - not just to stop any future manipulation but to also give people freedom of choice in what they wish to do to their own minds.

lovin' this topic btw, usually get shunned for these ideas..

Racsouran
09-21-2008, 10:25 PM
I believe we should return to living as closely with and to the land as possible. This lifestyle encourages and nurtures the spirituality and peace that many are seeking.

Go well,
Book

don´t try to return to neolithic, or medieval times with that.

what you ask for is a double edged sword.

we must see technology for what it is, and learn to coexist with it, same as with nature.

Bodhi
09-21-2008, 10:52 PM
...not just to stop any future manipulation but to also give people freedom of choice in what they wish to do to their own minds.

Most certainly agree.

The alternative consciousness experience has been a driving force in our evolution like few others. As a catalyst for the first leaps towards intelligent evolution, to being the first mystic traditions most sacred tools, through instigating the creation of the religions to leaving an immense bank of knowledge, and finally still lending itself to be one of the most intense and profounds schools around.

The ability to experiment with our consciousness is not only our choice, it is our sacred birthright.

Nate
09-21-2008, 11:10 PM
Its now time. We can no longer put off the work before us.

The task at hand: Create a Vision of the BEST POSSIBLE WORLD.

I would like to hear everyone's interpretation of how bad ass this world COULD BE.

No idea will can possibly be any more boring than the game we are currently playing.

So let your imaginations go and tell us what you want from the next world we are fixing to enter.

Ideally we can all agree upon the BEST POSSIBLE SCENARIO and manifest it!!!

Our future is a blank canvass, and your ideas are the medium.

Love you all and can't wait to see you WHEN WE ALL HAVE FREE ENERGY!!! :)


Stay Classy Project Avalon!!!


Reading your post, I take it you have read the Handbook for the New Paradigm (http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=229&osCsid=92748bd36816efc0f2314ce1bc181146)? :original:

If so, I have a copy of that book as well. However, I have yet to finish it.


Love, Light, and Peace.

8080028
09-21-2008, 11:52 PM
Hi all,
and thanks for the uplifting energy on this thread!
Just came off looking at yet another mega depressing video of what we are faced with, and realised yet again that for the past year I have been solidly hoovering up as much info as I can get on what feels like a thousand topics but is probably actually more, because time is short and there is a lot to learn to see what the actual story playing out is..
But no matter how much you find out there's always another page in this infinite book of news..
Everyone needs to get a cut off point where they say right, enough doom and gloom, the problem is massive and growing and you could read a shelf of books from here to The Popes home planet and never get the full picture.
So whats needed is something like this thread.

Nate, shortyz504, I 've read (but also still not finished:wink2: Handbook for the new paradigm. Also from watching What the bleep, check it out if you havent seen it, and reading about the new physics, I understand that yes, we can create ANYTHING. Any world we want. That is a big concept!

Any Led Zep fans here? The lyrics of The Song Remains the same go;

'I had a dream, oh yeah,
Crazy dream, oh yeah.
Anything I wanted to know,
Anyplace I needed to go..
Hear my song,
people love to listen now,
Sing along,
You don't know what you're missin.
Any little song that you know.
Everything thats small has to grow..'

lets throw out all the ideas we have and see what takes shape

I voted for the waterslide cities cos that would be fun but I will take it on the chin if we don't get that:original:

i have an idea i will share with you tomorrow (I'm going to bed now) on a way i think we could live really well, and Bodhi your idea of transparrent currency occured to me too, its a must I think.

Anyway, love and bubbles (and other soppy/soapy things) to ye,
night :sleep_1:

UncaRay
09-22-2008, 12:08 AM
I clicked on "Democracy" because I believe that we can perfect it by learning from our experience, plus I'm fascinated with the possibilities in the Internet and computers for launching the first truly "Global" democratic human society. But I actually would prefer to see this helping us to achieve the "re-naturalization" process implied by the "Return To Native Lifestyles" choice. Essentially I want to see us all regain our sense of being a part of the Great Wheel, literally find our place in Nature and occupy it responsibly. This combines democracy, native lifestyles and the recognition of the primacy of the spiritual. We now understand enough about how things work that we can do it with far greater efficiency than our forebears.

We can turn the Earth into a paradise.

If we only will it.