All Men Watch PORN, Scientists Find...LOL

[peaceandlove]

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All Men Watch PORN, Scientists Find...LOL

Scientists at the University of Montreal launched a search for men who had never looked at pornography - but couldn't find any. :naughty:

By Jonathan Liew
Published: 1:22PM GMT 02 Dec 2009

Researchers were conducting a study comparing the views of men in their 20s who had never been exposed to pornography with regular users.

But their project stumbled at the first hurdle when they failed to find a single man who had not been seen it.

“We started our research seeking men in their 20s who had never consumed pornography,” said Professor Simon Louis Lajeunesse. “We couldn't find any.”

Continues: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relationships/6709646/All-men-watch-porn-scientists-find.html

[TheObserver]

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[Ross H]

Several years ago in New Zealand, 'the internet police' did a search on computors from schools to offices, government depts ect.

They found 300 police computors through out the country where porn had been viewed...:naughty:


My take is this...TPTB have been using sex, manipulatiing sex for eons, Its one of the largest marketing platforms known to man/woman. It is no coincidence that (some researches say) 70% of internet use is for porn. A trillion dollar industry, and of course we can guess who is behind all this?

Men have been specifically targeted as 'they' understand the visual aspect of men which trigger amourous emotions, more so than woman, tho not immune.

Sadley, these days, the internet has provided direct access to the most explicit form of porn to our children, mind-programming at its worst.

Example: When I was 13yrs, many years ago...entering into puberty, I discovered my Fathers Penthouse magazine under the seat of his truck. Of course I was naturally curious and looked. My point is this, That was my introduction to this form of sexual interest, as well as playground chat at school. These days our kids, through school, their mates, girls and boys are veiwing the most outrageously expilcit material that is just disturbingly sickening, at a very young age!!! Those parents who do not monitor there childrens computor use and think they are not 'looking' at porn are deluded and niave.

The whole sex education at school is a complete joke and does nothing to illustrate the beauty and profound enjoyment that couples can experience together sexually and emotionally, as in service to others(together/sharing) Self gratification of course has its place but the whole sexual energy/practice/education/porn industry is manipulated and rammed down our throats at every turn... and our childrens. It is truely a sad state of affairs...

Peace.

[Tango]

PORN is Like going to your like most favorite place to eat !
Pressing your nose against the Window, watching someone
else, eat your favorite meal... As every forkfull goes in...
You can see the pleasure on their face as they consume Your Meal...
Drinking your most Favorite beverage.... As they swallow and take another
Forkfull... And smile as they enjoy the Real flavor on their tongue. As it melts
and is swallowed slowly with enjoyment... And, the worst would be if you saw
MMMMMMmmmmmmmm.... Oh, I would go NUTS....




Yeah... Cause THAT sounds like real FUN to me... NOT
[looking down at my empty hand] Where's My fork.
Where My plate... I want some...

Trooly,



Tango

[Humble Janitor]

This article posted at rense.com

All Men Watch PORN, Scientists Find...LOL

Scientists at the University of Montreal launched a search for men who had never looked at pornography - but couldn't find any. :naughty:

By Jonathan Liew
Published: 1:22PM GMT 02 Dec 2009

Researchers were conducting a study comparing the views of men in their 20s who had never been exposed to pornography with regular users.

But their project stumbled at the first hurdle when they failed to find a single man who had not been seen it.

“We started our research seeking men in their 20s who had never consumed pornography,” said Professor Simon Louis Lajeunesse. “We couldn't find any.”

Continues: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relationships/6709646/All-men-watch-porn-scientists-find.html

What does this have to do with PA/PC?

[Anchor]

What does this have to do with PA/PC?

The connection is with the ulterior motive of pornography - mind manipulation of the masses.

Speaking from personal experience, it is a tough one to get past.

A..

[Phtha]

What does this have to do with PA/PC?

well lets see.... Porn is one of the biggest scourges of our society today, and one of the least talked about. Its funny, I was contemplating on starting a thread on porn just yesterday as it is one of the most ignored yet devastating tools used by the ptw..
It is everywhere in the western world. It is a horrific attack on the masculine senses and a degradation of the female mind and body.
It is all about pleasure with no love. Satisfying the animal not the wight.

It is being used as a massive brainwashing tool. I cannot search google images for anything without some sort of porn coming up. Banners, mainstream much music ****, tv, everywhere. It is becoming mainstream, there are shows glorifying porn stars. It is an abomination that everyone is in denial of because we are told subliminaly (and now out in the open) that is it not cool to talk down on porn. Nothing good comes out of it and nothing will.
It feeds the emotions concerning rape, child abuse, degradation of the feminine and masculine aspects, domination and so forth. It used to market everything from coke to movies to health products to you name it

It is not love, it is not sex, it is a fleeting pleasure that will never be fullfilled, a black hole, it is an addicting filth that needs to be confronted.

Ok, got it off my chest I feel better now. :naughty:
But really, it is hard on us males are we are being bombarded with it at unpresidented levels. It is good practice to over come strong desires though. :tongue2:

[burgundia]

You do not have to go to porn to see It is a horrific attack on the masculine senses and a degradation of the female mind and body.
It is all about pleasure with no love. Satisfying the animal not the wight.
Just look at the adverts on billboards or some TV commercials..

[Humble Janitor]

Well, as someone who feels that sexuality should not be repressed, I'm really not sure what to think.

As long as people have free will, some will choose to act in porn films, male and female.

They might meet an untimely end (AIDS, STDs, etc) or they even reform (though that's rare).

Thanks for making me think. One more avenue of repression that just hasn't been examined enough.

[Phtha]

Yes I know this is why porn is so deadly.
I love sex and nakedness and the female body, but these guys have surpressed true sexuality and replaced it with filth. It's a thin red line in lots of ways. But porn is extremely harmful to humanity and is ALWAYS present in the SHIVA (destruction) stage of 'civilized' cultures.

Sexuality is completely lost today in the west in general, the sexual freedom, the wholeness of mind and body, the completness of our in-divide-dual selves. The only output they give us in this sexually surpressed society is porn. This is why it is so prevelent in my mind. People want to express themselves sexually and in general they do not know how else to do it.






Well, as someone who feels that sexuality should not be repressed, I'm really not sure what to think.

[TheObserver]

Masturbation is as old as humanity if not older. Erotica goes way back as well.
A simple head shot can be all you need if you find the face pleasing enough.
And don't forget simple imagination! :original:

[morguana]

What does this have to do with PA/PC?

it doesnt really does it? but maybe the whole topic of pornography could be seen as a means of contol.....in terms of how it is used in modern society.
it is as they say as old as the hills and is something that both sexes take part in (some 'womens' novels for instance).
i have no problem with porn as such, but i hate they way it is used to boost consumerism, it permiates into every day life and something i really dont want the children to see (dont mind a bit of nudity). i also dont like the effect it has on younger minds......body image, unreasonable expectations on relationships between people and so on.

i ask this why is porn sooooooo availiable and visible?
there has been a pushing of bounderies with regards to this in terms of net, tv, etc etc :mad3: and i really hated the pop ups when i was researching for my psychotherapy training a few years back.......couldnt look up stuff (psychosexual stages of developement for instance) without some porn popping up :mfr_omg: grrrrrrrr
bou x

[Anchor]

I think to understand porn you need to compare the state we are in now to what you internally know the natural state should be.

It is all about distortion from the natural flow.

We have taken a natural act and function - sexual reproduction, where its harmonious expression is a balance, in love, between all our bodies - spiritual, mental, physical and emotional bodies - into a distorted and disharmonious expression, one which, in the case of porn, is largely mental.

All manner of other sexual perversions - (perversions away from the purely natural harmony) are similar distortions.

We were given the freewill to experience these things, and it presents an easy target for the dark forces to tempt people into distraction and distortion that will impede thier spiritual awakenings.

You have a choice - you alone make it, and you alone are responsible for the outcome. It is as simple as that.

A..

[burgundia]

Go to this site and check the ads. I have nothing against naked human body, but look how they use it...
http://inventorspot.com/articles/ads_prove_sex_sells_5576

[Midnight Oil]

That's a very accurate and right on target research. Congrats to the researchers..:)

After all, we all are animals with basic insticts right?....Intelligence doesn't really make a big difference here does it?....Yeah, Darwin was right all from the beginning....we're just monkeys on mind expanding drugs.....:):):)

[Northern Boy]

Got my soda and popcorn What time does the movie start and who`s in it ?:lmao:

[Humble Janitor]

Ok. So, porn is toxic.

How do you propose that people express their sexual urges? By repressing them? Is masturbation evil? Are people able to separate the human part of pornography from their animalistic urges and desires?

And what about women that willingly go along with exploiting themselves in pornographic films? How is it possible that they're being used if you can't use the willing?

[Midnight Oil]

Its all in our genes guys and gals no big deal, we are programed this way... women have to show off to be popular and men are like studs...:)

[Aztar]

Oh My!!

The Internet is for porn avenue Q original - Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kuc

[morguana]

Oh My!!

The Internet is for porn avenue Q original - Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kuc

:lol3: i was in stitches, and welcome :thumb_yello:
bou x

[burgundia]

So... once again...what was the purpose of this thread?

[Humble Janitor]

So... once again...what was the purpose of this thread?

Not sure but at least it made me think. I think that's enough of a purpose. :)

[Ross H]

Anchor: The connection is with the ulterior motive of pornography - mind manipulation of the masses.


peace

[orthodoxymoron]

"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a women lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell." Matthew 5:31,32 RSV

Wow! Strong words! Too strong? Is this one of the hard sayings that Dr. F.F. Bruce wrote about? I think so! This is actually a new covenant teaching which is tougher than the old covenant teaching! The teachings of Jesus have veto power over the Old Testament! The teachings of Jesus have veto power over the New Testament! The teachings of Jesus have veto power over all Christian leaders in all of Christian history! If a Christian leader thinks they have veto power over the teachings of Christ...they are not Christian leaders! They are simply the bland leading the bland!

It is always helpful to look for the underlying principles and concepts, especially if you like being able to see with two eyes! I was wondering...if you took this text literally and your heart was filled with burning desire for the married girl next door, and you gouged your right eye out...what should you do if your heart is still filled with burning desire for the married girl next door?! Thank God Jesus didn't say anything about the left eye!

Seriously! How do we know when to take a text literally, and when to start rationalizing! Use your brain! It should be obvious that Jesus is using the technique of exaggeration to make a point! He is telling us to take sin very seriously, and to understand how destructive sin is if it is followed to its logical, or actually illogical, conclusion! Obviously, Jesus does not want people to gouge their eyes out! But think about it...if an affair with the married girl next door led to lying, jealousy, anger, and even murder...perhaps a missing eye would be the least destructive option!

So...if we see an extremely sexually attractive married member of the opposite sex in a tiny swimsuit with a nice dark tan...what are we supposed to do?! Darned if I know! WWJD? OK...the general rule is to think through who would get hurt, and how badly, if you actually did what you are thinking! This requires more than a simplistic, "what's wrong with it?" It requires reasoning from cause to effect, and asking, "what's right with it?" This requires a lot of effort, and I'm afraid that most of us are moral wimps! Myself included!

Thinking sexual thoughts is a part of life! For those that have a life, that is! If you don't think lustful thoughts, you are probably one screwed-up human being! The secret is to constructively redirect one's thoughts when they become destructive! And be honest about what constructive and destructive thoughts are! Do they teach this sort of thing in school? Are you kidding?!

And what about hell? Is hell still a burning question? If gouging out your eye is not to be taken literally...well hell...maybe hell, especially an eternally burning hell, should not be taken literally either! Hell? No!! And the Devil...well he's a helluva guy (or gal)!

[orthodoxymoron]

Why is there so much agony and ecstasy connected with reproduction? Most people want sex, straight or otherwise, and find it supremely enjoyable, but why are there so many problems? Is the fact that sex feels good responsible for overpopulation? Why is conception pleasurable, while child-birth is painful? What if it was the other way around? Should sex be used only for procreation, and not for recreation? Why are there so many sexually transmitted diseases? Is AIDS man-made? Recreational drugs are illegal! Should recreational sex also be illegal? Why are various sexual behaviors considered sinful and/or illegal? Who decides which sexual behaviors are sinful and/or illegal?

Christians are encouraged to think pure thoughts! But what is a pure thought? What is an impure thought? Can God read our minds? If so, does God sometimes blush? Did God invent sex? Is God sexy? Does God have sex? If so, with whom? Is sexual desire a part of original sin? Why do we wear clothes? Why is it illegal to not wear clothes in public? As if the above questions weren't enough, there are more! There are several cans of worms!

Did Jesus have sexual thoughts? Was Jesus a hunk? Did Jesus have a girlfriend? Did Jesus have a wife? Did Jesus have sex? Did Jesus have children? Are these inappropriate questions? Do any of these questions really matter? If so, why so? If not, why not?

Is a lustful thought sinful? Is masturbation sinful? Is pre-marital sex sinful? Is sexless dating realistic? Is extra-marital sex sinful? Is it sinful to be sexy? Is pornography sinful? Why is pornography mostly slam-bam and degrading!? And how do I know that!? How do you know if I'm right or wrong?! There's more! A lot more!

Is homosexuality sinful? Does Jesus say it's sinful? If it is sinful, why is it sinful? Because isolated Biblical passages say so? Is it inherently immoral, with or without Biblical condemnation? Is it genetic? Is it a pre-disposition? Is it a choice? Should homosexuals become teachers and preachers? Should they become soldiers? Should they become the Bishop of New Hampshire? What about gay marriage? What about polygamy?

Is birth control sinful? Is abstinence realistic or healthy? Is having too many children sinful? How many is too many? Does life begin at conception? Why doesn't it begin before conception? If life ends when the brain and heart stop working, why doesn't life begin when the brain and heart start working? Why is causing a woman to miscarry considered murder, when abortion is not considered murder? Why is aborting a 9 month old unborn baby not considered murder, when killing a 9 month old newborn baby is considered murder?

Is procreation a created phenomenon, or merely the creation of evolution? Is procreation a marriage of creation and evolution? Is sex a spiritual as well as a physical phenomenon?

Is extra-marital online sex and phone sex as sinful as extra-marital physical sex? If variety is the spice of life, does that make having multiple partners OK? Is it OK to experiment sexually before marriage as long as you are faithful to the one you marry? Should you be jealous if your partner or spouse is cheating? Should you be happy if they are happy cheaters?

Should good abstaining teens grind their teeth while the bad kids have all the good times? Should businessmen screw their secretaries as well as their competition? And then go home to their mansions and kiss their beautiful wives and children, and read the scripture in church on Sunday?

Does the church use irrational, impossible sexual rules and the resulting sexual guilt as a means of controlling the masses? And as a means of fund raising when the guilty flock comes to church each week to obtain the forgiveness of their sins, mostly sexual? Should clergy be celebate? Is celebacy a set-up for abuse?

Why is making love considered shameful? Why is making war considered honorable?

There was a young maiden named Wyld!
She kept herself quite undefiled!
By thinking of Jesus and social diseases!
And the fear of having a child!

Thinking of Jesus...He didn't touch 99% of the above questions with a 10 foot pole...smart Man!

As for me...I prefer to talk softly...and carry a big stick...

The fact that there are so many controversial sex questions may help explain why our world is so screwed-up...

[orthodoxymoron]

Viewer discretion advised. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-z54EP0EhM&feature=fvw

[morguana]

orthodoxymoron, your posts were exellent, thank you, totally agree
bou x

[Brinty]

Why is there so much agony and ecstasy connected with reproduction?

I suspect it is a case of having a guilty conscience. Like an advocate of healthy eating being caught having a chocolate binge. We are told it should only be used for one purpose - then, because it is so pleasurable, we go and make pigs of ourselves by over indulging. :devil:

If you had a choice, which would you rather be confronted with on TV - pornography or violence? :mfr_omg:

[Phtha]

All of those questions are best answered by oneself after much meditation or deep thought on the issue. I've meditated quite often on this subject as I too was very confused with it all but wanted to understand. As I said the difference between sexual freedom and porn is a thin red line. All I will say is masturbation is not porn (although often influenced by it), sexual freedom and nakedness is not porn, sex of any type is not porn, and although not my cup of tea, multiple partners is not porn.... I could go on.

This will probably sound funny to most but the real danger of porn is that it effects us on a deep soul level, you are playing karma, with raw human emotions that are a foundation of nature, the feminine and the masculine, which are way out of balance, and porn is only a by product of this fact. But effect or not, the more it is fed the worse the imbalance becomes.

But to each his own I say.



Ok. So, porn is toxic.

How do you propose that people express their sexual urges? By repressing them? Is masturbation evil? Are people able to separate the human part of pornography from their animalistic urges and desires?

And what about women that willingly go along with exploiting themselves in pornographic films? How is it possible that they're being used if you can't use the willing?

[Phtha]

I despise both but if I had too I'd choose violence as it is far less tempting... :tongue2:



If you had a choice, which would you rather be confronted with on TV - pornography or violence? :mfr_omg:

[orthodoxymoron]

Romans 7 - King James Bible - Saul/Paul/Josephus/? (A multi-tasker who might be alive and well...and posting on Avalon? Who knows?) This is a very heavy subject...and it's getting me down. Atlas shrugged...and maybe I should too! Oh wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? Are these the words of an agonized God of This World? I don't ask this question lightly or condemningly. I keep thinking that the Human God of This World tried to do the right thing...but got overwhelmed by problems and temptations...and that the Dracs took advantage of the situation. I also keep thinking that the full history of human life is excruciatingly painful and sad. The Dracs may have some sad stories to tell as well.

1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

[orthodoxymoron]

You might find the following links to be somewhat interesting. Luke Ford's father is a renegade theologian with two doctorates (one focusing on rhetoric in the writings of Paul)...and I attended dozens of his lectures. Luke ended up on '60 Minutes' and 'Entertainment Tonight', etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkg1XiYDNWE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms5vmrVdzIQ&feature=related

[Brinty]

I despise both but if I had too I'd choose violence as it is far less tempting... :tongue2:

I'll buy the fact that violence is less tempting, or titillating at any rate. But for myself, I'd rather have a brief fling with porn than a punch on the nose. What I can't get my head around is masochism - it strikes me as being an activity where the person has a guilty conscience with the act which they assuage by making it painful. This way they enjoy forbidden pleasure and feel they have paid the price in agony. That's not my idea of having a pleasurable experience :nono: - which, it strikes me, is what it's all about. :original:

[orthodoxymoron]

I'll buy the fact that violence is less tempting, or titillating at any rate. But for myself, I'd rather have a brief fling with porn than a punch on the nose. What I can't get my head around is masochism - it strikes me as being an activity where the person has a guilty conscience with the act which they assuage by making it painful. This way they enjoy forbidden pleasure and feel they have paid the price in agony. That's not my idea of having a pleasurable experience :nono: - which, it strikes me, is what it's all about. :original:

Sticks and stones may break my bones...but whips and chains excite me! :lol3::lightsabre:

[Karen]

If you had a choice, which would you rather be confronted with on TV - pornography or violence? :mfr_omg:

TV does not often separate the two - OK, regular TV is not hard porn, but most of the chicks now have half of their boobs hanging out of low cut tight shirts.

The CSI detective leans over the desk of her male partner, with her little tank top letting it all hang out. Then they go investigate the case of the man that was put through the wood chipper and sort through the pieces for clues.

Then there's the one of the Ghost Whisperer lady running around the house in her sexy nightgown after the visions wake her up. And the OLALA daytime outfits, and she turns around to face some gory ghost.

[Anchor]

Karen,

why do you even watch TV ? Dont watch it - problem solved.

Works for me.

A..

[Brinty]

TV does not often separate the two - OK, regular TV is not hard porn, but most of the chicks now have half of their boobs hanging out of low cut tight shirts.

The CSI detective leans over the desk of her male partner, with her little tank top letting it all hang out. Then they go investigate the case of the man that was put through the wood chipper and sort through the pieces for clues.

Then there's the one of the Ghost Whisperer lady running around the house in her sexy nightgown after the visions wake her up. And the OLALA daytime outfits, and she turns around to face some gory ghost.

What does cross my mind every time there is an intimate scene that starts the TV screen fogging up is - could you imagine getting down to it with a whole camera, sound and lighting crew staring at every move you make - and probably offering suggestions as to how to make it look more authentic? I reckon that would go over like a bucket of cold water.

[Anchor]

What does cross my mind every time there is an intimate scene that starts the TV screen fogging up is - could you imagine getting down to it with a whole camera, sound and lighting crew staring at every move you make - and probably offering suggestions as to how to make it look more authentic? I reckon that would go over like a bucket of cold water.

I am sure the money and "fame" helps.

A..

[Brinty]

I am sure the money and "fame" helps.

A..

Yes, you're probably right Anchor - I reckon with a good stiff dose of viagra and a few thousand dollars and a slurp or two of MOSCOW MULE, I could be talked into attempting it. (Just don't let on to Mrs Brinty or else I'd have to come clean on how I could afford to shout her to dinner for the rest of her life.)

[Phtha]

lol well if violence was titillating then it would be just as tempting.
Although as Karen brought up they sure like to combine the two.

if I had to EXPERIENCE either porn or violence then I'm with you too, I would choose porn... well depending on the type. :mfr_lol:

Perhaps this will help to answer you other question concerning masochism, it is from a law of one session.

Questioner: We will now continue with the material from the day before yesterday. The subject is how sexual polarity acts as a catalyst in evolution and how to best make use of this catalyst. Going back to that material, I will fill in a few gaps that we possibly do not understand too well at this point.

Can you tell me the difference between orange and yellow ray activation? I am going to work up from the red ray right on through the violet. We have covered red ray, so I would like to ask now what the difference is between yellow and orange ray activation?

Ra: I am Ra. The orange ray is that influence or vibratory pattern wherein the mind/body/spirit expresses its power on an individual basis. Thus power over individuals may be seen to be orange ray. This ray has been quite intense among your peoples on an individual basis. You may see in this ray the treating of other-selves as non-entities, slaves, or chattel, thus giving otherselves no status whatever.

The yellow ray is a focal and very powerful ray and concerns the entity in relation to, shall we say, groups, societies, or large numbers of mind/body/spirit complexes. This orange—we correct ourselves—this yellow ray vibration is at the heart of bellicose actions in which one group of entities feels the necessity and right of dominating other groups of entities and bending their wills to the wills of the masters. The negative path, as you would call it, uses a combination of the yellow ray and the orange ray in its polarization patterns. These rays, used in a dedicated fashion, will bring about a contact with intelligent infinity. The usual nature of sexual interaction, if one is yellow or orange in primary vibratory patterns, is one of blockage and then insatiable hunger due to the blockage. When there are two selves vibrating in this area the potential for polarization through the sexual interaction is begun, one entity experiencing the pleasure of humiliation and slavery or bondage, the other experiencing the pleasure of mastery and control over another entity. This way a sexual energy transfer of a negative polarity is experienced.


I'll buy the fact that violence is less tempting, or titillating at any rate. But for myself, I'd rather have a brief fling with porn than a punch on the nose.

[Karen]

Karen,
why do you even watch TV ? Dont watch it - problem solved.
Works for me. A..

Well Anchor, I'll answer that question. I am 57 and in high school I noticed that when I was trying to do my homework and my little brother was watching the TV and I would come out of my room and pass through the living room to get something I needed, that stupid TV would suck me in with some crazy kind of power I couldn't believe. I would have to rip myself away and go back to the homework.

Therefore from that time on I watch very little TV, rather than be slave to see the Wed night showing of "Lost in Space", etc. on through every night of the week. I have watched few movies throughout the years, because I don't want to be subject to the mind control they are trying to impose on the collective consciousness. I got a little bit addicted to Mario Brothers video game for a short while when my kids were the age for that, then one day I said this is so utterly stupid and walked away and never looked back.

Heck - I don't even listen to music because I'm well aware as some on this forum are about the really creepy level of mind control, etc embedded into the music. I love the silence and listening to my very own thoughts.

Ok, but now, for the last few years, I live with my mother and that is her life long pattern after working all day, still at the age of 77, she watches 2 or 3 hours of TV. She hates it when I spend all day long isolated in my room doing my work on the computer, which I absolutely LOVE, LOVE, LOVE information and learning. I have tried to stand my ground on the TV issue, but it's a losing battle and for the greater good of this household I have made the concession of spending time in front of the boob tube with her.

We talk during the commercials and it makes it bearable in short segments to chatter about stuff I don't have any interest in. If I bring up any of my whacky stuff, she says nothing or changes the subject. I like the detective theme of the CSI shows, but it is only the last year or two that the scanty clothing, sexual innuendo, and graphic, graphic violence, blood and guts saturate nearly every show.

Well, she doesn't like this either and I am gaining a little ground saying I don't want to watch that kind of gore anymore on the TV shows. I will not watch reruns with her. And at the start of the new season this fall - I'm down to about 1 or 2 hours 3 or 4 nights a week.

So actually I can thank the sex and violence from releasing me from about half the hours in front of the "programming" box. I have made suggestions like why don't we sort through family pictures or work on the genealogy, or label who this or that was handed down from, but she's tired after working and at her age and well ...

for the love of my mom and all she does for me, I make the concession of sitting down and watching a little TV with her and visiting during commercials.

[Brinty]

for the love of my mom and all she does for me, I make the concession of sitting down and watching a little TV with her and visiting during commercials.

That's very considerate of you Karen - to put your mothers interests before your own. :thumb_yello: I've traveled a similar path to you regarding music. I have a rather decent collection of LPs dating back to the 50s and I have gone through them and transferred the tracks I like most to my hard drive. I currently have 6170 tracks on my 'jukebox' as I call it, and I have it running as long as the PC is turned on. It is the only form of music heard in the house and it is all my favorite stuff - no mind control there. Unless it's been controlled for the last 50 years. :mfr_omg:

[burgundia]

Anchor: The connection is with the ulterior motive of pornography - mind manipulation of the masses.


peace

specially if they throw it in your face, even if you are not interested. ( I posted some good examples on 777's thread. If i find the pictures I will post them here) How did people cope when there was no TV, computer, photography?
I hope people do not confuse nudity with pornography...
PS. I have found something else. These are all advertisements for clothes..
http://www.debonairmag.com/the-most-controversial-ads-in-fashion-history
And this for a good cause...it is not a pornography, but still i do not find it appropriate. It would be ok, if it was an ad for lingerie...

http://www.lazyhour.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/getinside.jpg

[orthodoxymoron]

Religion and STD's...combined with the fashion and entertainment industries...have pretty much ruined the subject of sexuality for me. It's sort of like putting a beautiful wedding dress in a pigpen...and then trying to enjoy looking at it in that context. Cheating, divorce, lawyers, and stupid relatives don't exactly enhance the euphoria.

What I would really like to know about is the Founders...or whoever invented sex. There is obviously evidence of evolution...throughout the universe. And to me...there is obviously evidence of intelligent design...especially regarding sexuality, reproduction, and genetics. Unfortunately...the Founders seem to be missing in action, exiled, imprisoned, murdered, or extinct...and certainly not running things in this Solar System, at least. This troubles me VERY deeply. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3BZFazKED8&feature=related

I appreciate the complexity of running this Solar System...and I appeciate the historical and contemporary efforts of all involved in doing so...even if these efforts have not been completely successful (or have even been disastrous). I'm thinking that this universe has been a big mess for a long, long time...and that at this point...the Divinity Within Humanity may be all that remains of the Founders. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. I just want to know who we really are...what the true and unedited universal history really is...and then I want to move on...in a Solar System governed by Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. Perhaps then sexuality will shine with it's true light and beauty...as the Founders intended.

:original:Namaste:original:

[burgundia]

It's sort of like putting a beautiful wedding dress in a pigpen...and then trying enjoy looking at it in that context. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3BZFazKED8&feature=related

well said....

[solent]

I know this is off topic, but I feel it’s relevant , have any of you picked up on the manipulation of speed…..?

I mean the movie “Need for Speed”, its gone from being a movie (with a sound track that appeals to youngsters), on to one of the most popular games on all platforms (with a sound track that appeals to youngsters), to being taken up by the youth as being normal life (while they listen to the same sound tracks), hence they work or “otherwise”, to buy a “cool ride” then spend their hard earned to up grade “the ride” to follow what they think is normal?????

Manipulation to the best, and who gets the hard earned? The film company, the game company, the industrial complex we call automotive, the performance company’s who are related to the automotive industry, and last but not least the music industry, all of which, as we all know belong to the elite, and is rapped up with a glossy cover of beauty and sex…..

Of course this is nothing new, it’s been going on forever, but not to this extent.

Maybe we should just relax, after all, we are in the end days, instead of worrying about all this sh*te, should we not just understand what all this really means, should we not just reflect on how we are as divine spirits, and not read too much into negativity? After all, it’s had it’s time at playing out, now its our turn, we can see it for what it is, instead of debating, we should just continue to ignore as it has no place in our reality….

I feel pity for those that are caught up within the matrix, but ultimately, those that follow, understand on a soul level what they are doing.

Edit to add....

Should I even pity..... No I think not, we each choose when we incarnate. Follow your own path, it's right for you and only you.

[Ross H]

Masturbation is as old as humanity if not older. Erotica goes way back as well.
A simple head shot can be all you need if you find the face pleasing enough.
And don't forget simple imagination! :original:

I believe masturbation started with the cavemen...Two cavemen were walking along a muddy track when one fell over...He stood up and saw he had mud on his 'bits':mad3: so he proceeded to rub the mud off...rub, rub, rub...:wink2:

this is of course a joke!:thumb_yello:

Peace.

[orthodoxymoron]

Ug! Ug! Ug! Oh Ug!

Rub a dub dub...three men in a hot tub! :naughty::naughty::naughty:

Does anyone know what happens when one reverses the batteries in the Energizer Bunny?

[Humble Janitor]

I know this is off topic, but I feel it’s relevant , have any of you picked up on the manipulation of speed…..?

I mean the movie “Need for Speed”, its gone from being a movie (with a sound track that appeals to youngsters), on to one of the most popular games on all platforms (with a sound track that appeals to youngsters), to being taken up by the youth as being normal life (while they listen to the same sound tracks), hence they work or “otherwise”, to buy a “cool ride” then spend their hard earned to up grade “the ride” to follow what they think is normal?????

Manipulation to the best, and who gets the hard earned? The film company, the game company, the industrial complex we call automotive, the performance company’s who are related to the automotive industry, and last but not least the music industry, all of which, as we all know belong to the elite, and is rapped up with a glossy cover of beauty and sex…..

Of course this is nothing new, it’s been going on forever, but not to this extent.

Maybe we should just relax, after all, we are in the end days, instead of worrying about all this sh*te, should we not just understand what all this really means, should we not just reflect on how we are as divine spirits, and not read too much into negativity? After all, it’s had it’s time at playing out, now its our turn, we can see it for what it is, instead of debating, we should just continue to ignore as it has no place in our reality….

I feel pity for those that are caught up within the matrix, but ultimately, those that follow, understand on a soul level what they are doing.

Edit to add....

Should I even pity..... No I think not, we each choose when we incarnate. Follow your own path, it's right for you and only you.

I'm starting to wonder if everything that we consider to be fun has an evil agenda. I love video games. Does that make me a pawn? I love music. Does that make me a pawn?

I totally understand the part about sex but everything else?

I think that we have to set limits and/or moderate our consumption of things that may be harmful to our souls. There will always be a component of each person that craves entertainment of some form. Some people do it better and in a more meaningful manner than others.

Does that mean that we should judge those who haven't yet reached an awakening?

Just some food for thought.

[Ross H]

I'm starting to wonder if everything that we consider to be fun has an evil agenda. I love video games. Does that make me a pawn? I love music. Does that make me a pawn?

I totally understand the part about sex but everything else?

I think that we have to set limits and/or moderate our consumption of things that may be harmful to our souls. There will always be a component of each person that craves entertainment of some form. Some people do it better and in a more meaningful manner than others.

Does that mean that we should judge those who haven't yet reached an awakening?

Just some food for thought.

Moderation in this 3d is best approach.

Never judge a man until you have worn his moccasins for two weeks:thumb_yello:

peace

[Anchor]

I'm starting to wonder if everything that we consider to be fun has an evil agenda. I love video games. Does that make me a pawn?

No not a pawn, but a product of your conditioning. You have to break out of it and figure stuff out like: why do you like these things?

I love music. Does that make me a pawn?

"Music" has such a wide spectrum, from the highest master peices that resonate with the highest celestial orders to the lowest forms of so-called music that contains semi-rythmic grunting that passes for "singing" and generated by machines that does nothing but smash discordant notes from my next door neighbours into my living room wall [1]

The buggers even tried to manipulate music - look into Solfeggio frequencies, that seems to show that they changed music to stop it being in true harmony.

We like to count in 5's and 12's but the decimal system wrecks it. Our brains like analogue measures of time but digital clocks jar the sensibilities. The list goes on.

Everything you live with has been manipulated and has been kicked out of joint.

Porn is just another factor. Hey lets really kick man kind in the nuts - lets give him easy access to "gratification". Look at the stunts they have pulled through history - repression and its opposite. Covering up ankles - or even furniture that looks like ankles - to the kind of graphic base advertising seen earlier in this thread.

You are not a pawn. In fact you are a powerful and potent weapon of mass creation - and the f*ckers in charge know it, and they are using every trick in the book to keep you out of that loop.

A..

[1] Its an act people only an act. I am not an old fart. I am not an old fart. I am not an old fart... what was I saying?

[Humble Janitor]

I'm still not sure where you're coming from, Anchor.

Conditioning?

You know, I always believe in balance and that means not becoming addicted to stuff like music or video games, as well as any other substance.

[TheObserver]

Anchor, i have to disagree with painting classical music as inherently superior to popular music forms (jazz, rock, blues, country, hip-hop etc.)
There is 'good' and 'bad' music within all genres which is a totally subjective opinion based on an individuals personal taste.
One can also differentiate between innovators and followers and also between more commercial vs less etc.
In my experience the only 2 songs that truly made me want to puke were "You Light Up My Life" by Debbie Boone and "Achy-Breaky Heart" by Billy Ray Cyrus.
As far as 'equal temperament' @ A=440 tuning a piano player would have to either re-tune his piano or have multiple pianos to switch keys in 'just temperament'.

[Anchor]

Anchor, i have to disagree with painting classical music as inherently superior to popular music forms (jazz, rock, blues, country, hip-hop etc.)

I agree, I didn't actually say or mean that but my flippancy might have implied this meaning. Music is interesting because it is all about tuning in the real physical sense and not just the metaphysical sense. It is a harder one to categorize - but it is also at the same time a target rich environment for the manipulators.

I can sing a song about "shooting my bitch up", and it's only a song right - so that's ok is it? Modern music is often accompanied by video's that often border on (or actually are) pornographic. Lets get Dirrty eh?

HJ: My point is that your judgment about what are good and bad things to do is conditioned. You can learn to like (or dislike) things - ultimately it is a matter of consciousness tuning.

The problem with some of the "Entertainment" that is available today is that it leads to compulsive behaviors, consume your time, and distracts you from the "now", the truth of the moment and plugged well in to the "matrix" into which we have descended - led along in a way that avoids us realizing it by master tricksters.

Saying - its all about balance is somewhat correct in my view - but it is also about not making excuses for doing the escape work :)

Its all about your choice and your responsibility for that choice.

A..

PS: As far as 'equal temperament' @ A=440 tuning a piano player would have to either re-tune his piano or have multiple pianos to switch keys in 'just temperament'. I dont understand what this means - what is temperament in this context?

[Humble Janitor]

To be fair, a lot of the music I listen to nowadays has classical tendencies, even if it's rooted more in sub-genres of Metal music. The stuff I've been hearing recently is beautiful and some bands even seem to be in tune with spritual changes, etc.

I do not consider these things to be an "escape".

What good is life if you can't appreciate each lifetime for what it is?

[Anchor]

The stuff I've been hearing recently is beautiful and some bands even seem to be in tune with spritual changes, etc.

Completely agree - and me too!

What good is life if you can't appreciate each lifetime for what it is?

None. But there is more to it than just that.

If you can define why you like something that would be interesting.

A..

[peaceandlove]

I suspect it is a case of having a guilty conscience. Like an advocate of healthy eating being caught having a chocolate binge. We are told it should only be used for one purpose - then, because it is so pleasurable, we go and make pigs of ourselves by over indulging. :devil:

Good point Brinty.

Because it is so pleasurable reminds me of alcohol, where if one drink is fun, then 6 must be a blast. And what is the purpose of alcohol? To me it is poison in pretty bottles and I've had my share of it in the distant past.

The question I have is...has a survey been done on how many men (or women) watch porn only while under the influence of alcohol or other mind altering drugs compared to how many watch porn totally sober and is feeling quilty associated with inebriation? :rolleyes:

[TheObserver]

PS: I dont understand what this means - what is temperament in this context?

Oh that's about the solfeggio frequencies thing and the 'conspiracy' that standard modern western tuning is somehow less in tune,
which is true in that if you tune an instrument to play perfectly in one key it will play in other keys badly so equal temperament
is a compromise tuning that plays all keys very well instead of one key impeccably perfect.
Wikipedia has excellent (albeit highly technical) info on this, read the articles on A440, equal temperament, tuning etc
(they all link to each other and there is plenty other articles linked as well)
As far as lyrics that's free speech and sexy videos are marketing most of the time and art the rest.

[Phtha]

Yes this is true, as tuning to A 417 from A 440 is only a half-step down in the western solfeggio. So that means that if one is tuned to standard 440 then the note G# is 417 rather then A. I've tuned my guitar to A 417 because I enjoy playing in the A key, but now if I goto g# it will not be at 417 anymore. You win you lose. :lmao: t

Here is a guy that has a total different view on the 528 frequencies, scroll down until you see the bold "The Real Meaning of 528Hz".
This guy has a ton of other stuff at his site as well. He reminds me of 777 in a lot of ways. A master at symbology. :lmfao:
http://illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com/2-origin-of-numbers-2/

Oh that's about the solfeggio frequencies thing and the 'conspiracy' that standard modern western tuning is somehow less in tune,
which is true in that if you tune an instrument to play perfectly in one key it will play in other keys badly so equal temperament
is a compromise tuning that plays all keys very well instead of one key impeccably perfect.

[orthodoxymoron]

Making music is a lot like making love. :trumpet::wub2: Watching others make music is almost pornographic. :shocked: I like to watch. :original: