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Bill Ryan

12-07-2009, 03:22 PM

Hello, Everyone:

There are a lot of changes going on at the moment, and I wanted to take this opportunity to open up a thread to communicate with old and new friends at the Avalon Forum, to answer questions and be open to communication.

As Karen has already stated elsewhere, Kerry and I are very heavily overloaded and it's only for this reason we've not been posting here: as it is, it's a risk, because of the danger of raising expectations which I or we might not be able to meet.

I invited Kerry to join me in an update thread, but she asked me to pass on her best wishes and declined gracefully. She prefers not to use the written word and for her it's just too time-consuming - which some of you will understand very well. She has her new radio show starting on 10 December - first guest, David Wilcock - and I won't be taking part in that because of the time zone difference [3 to 5 am in Europe].

However, we'll also be starting a commercial-free audio blog, probably for an hour a week with the opportunity to give conversational updates and take calls. We'll announce that as soon as we have it nailed. So between us, we have several ways to talk to Camelot visitors, who are now numbering a million a month.

Many thanks to all of you for your enormous support and energy the last year. We do read your e-mails, but all too often have no time to reply. Let's see how this goes here. I have no suggested format, but I'm happy to answer questions (if I can) and generally offer updates on this thread. I won't be posting anywhere else, so this is the place to look for me.

Final note: we're glad that the decision to make the forum free has been well-received. We're aware that for the mods it might be quite a headache with a rush of new members (or old ones coming back). My personal request - and I say this as a member as you all are - is that the moderation should be fair and always courteous but tough if necessary in order to maintain the high tone of the forum. For all those who regard this as your forum home, please assist in whatever way is needed to keep this a great place to visit every day.

Very best wishes to all - Bill

rhythm

12-07-2009, 03:26 PM

thanks Bill for taking the time to post to us

it is a appreciated

im a long time member

and we have stuggled along a bit for awhile now ...

but today the avalon sparkle has returned

thanks for all you do ...

namaste rhythmmm ....

oxiigen

12-07-2009, 03:27 PM

Marko Rodin said: "I found the language of God. I found the perfection mathematically. I claim that I discovered the first linear non-banding above the known elements. The Superparticle."

So, my question is actually a wish: Bill, Please talk with Marko Rodin! Your conversation with Marko is really something that I (& many others I believe) would LOVE to experience!

giovonni

12-07-2009, 03:28 PM

Thank you Bill,
So wonderful to see and feel your presence again here at Avalon. I can attest to this gift~
You and Kerry gave too all of us here> was not in vain!
Good luck always,
my best
Gio

TheChosen

12-07-2009, 03:31 PM

1 million is quite a good number. Keep at it Bill..

Personally I'd like to hear more on the topic of the Hyperdimensional Artificial Intelligence.. Has there been any new information?

Since the small mention by Jake Simpson this topic has hugely dissapeared off the radar... while in meantime I strongly believe (and my experiences in the astral point to it as well) that it is very important to our daily lives and the state of the world.

hobbit

12-07-2009, 03:32 PM

Thank goodness, common sense is breaking out, now what We all really want to know.
Whats under the hat?
Forget about all the aliens etc, We can sort all of them out no bother.
The big question is about that hat, where did You get it?

So glad that You haven't grown too big for your boots, and the hat seems to still fit.
We are all there with You both always, thank You both.
Hobbit

viking

12-07-2009, 04:07 PM

Hi Bill...

Firstly to thank you both for all your efforts in keeping the show going.

Anyway, have you heard any more news about one of my favourite topics Disclosure??

viking

pyrangello

12-07-2009, 04:28 PM

Bill , first and foremost Cudo's to you and Kerry for starting a place for many of us to come together to talk openly about what are thoughts and beliefs are without feeling alienated talking to family members or friends and being looked upon as some type of wacko. This site is home for many and a place to feed off one another and learn as there are some really talented and spiritual souls here and those who never posts but are just as important as those that do.

Your opinion please :
1)Chemtrails- harmful , not harmful or a mixed bag around the world?

2)Flu- As it is subsiding the first wave can we expect wave 2 or 3 this year. Thanks for the D-3 advise too?

3)What are the percentage of white hats (good guys) around the world vs. the dark side, U.S. and world .?

Thanks for all you both do. it's appreciated more than you know!

Majorion

12-07-2009, 04:28 PM

Hi Bill,

Just wanna say, thank you for opening the forum to everyone, in my opinion an excellent decision and this way you undoubtedly will attract many more followers, I hope all the best for you and Kerry.

Cheers

GaiaLove

12-07-2009, 04:29 PM

Hi Bill
Great to see you here again, I consider it an honor to be amongst the group of individuals dedicated to keeping your(our) forum in order. And am grateful for the opportunity.
I would like to ask the same of you as viking did, has there been any news of disclosure as the Nov27 date came and went and now we are hearing mention of January or February. Is that the case or is the plan to disclose been squashed yet?

All the best

Jacqui D

12-07-2009, 04:39 PM

Hi Bill nice to see you here!
No questions just want to say the news regarding free subscription is excellent and undoubtedly will bring many old ones back and invite many new ones.
Can't believe a year has come and gone!
Good luck in all you and Kerry do!
And thank you once again.

Peace of mind

12-07-2009, 04:46 PM

Thanks Bill, I and many others appreciate what you and Kerry are doing. While you guys have been in the front of it all getting the ball rolling…I just wanted you to know that you have the support and eager attention from those in unlikely places. You guys are doing a great service for humanity and I’m sure your great sacrifices will not go unrewarded. The interviews are intriguing and the forums are a great place for people to meet each other and share their experiences as well as wisdom.

May the light protect you and yours as well as Kerry’s and hers. Namaste to you 2 guys, Avaloneans, and the rest of the world. Godspeed

Peace

THE eXchanger

12-07-2009, 04:51 PM

Thanks Bill , and, also Kerrie
for all you do

love/susan
the eXchanger

smat

12-07-2009, 05:35 PM

Thanks Bill for opening up the forum again, I really Appreciate all You and Kerry do.

I'm just wondering what your opnion on 'Cristopher Story'
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17958

I've not read any news on there about Climate Gate, but it was an interesting read... almost to good to be true on the clean up of corruption in the U.S.A. and in Europe.

kari

12-07-2009, 05:36 PM

I agree with the other avalonians, i hope you take a break every now and then, so that your candle doesn`t burn out,(but if you do, we won`t get the good things that you and Kerry provide for us) anyhow i must say that you guys, have opened mine, and i think i can say, most peoples eyes, to what is really going on in the world, and for that i THANK YOU BOTH!
Kari

Stargazer1965

12-07-2009, 05:52 PM

Glad to finally "meet" you BILL....Keep up the great job!!!!

lindabaker

12-07-2009, 05:55 PM

Congratulations on your rousing success with Project Camelot. A million a month, hey? Did you ever think? Good job, man. LB

Sarahmay

12-07-2009, 06:03 PM

Thanks for the update--all sounds good.

Bill and Kerry, you are both much appreciated!

Bill Ryan

12-07-2009, 06:27 PM

Hi, All:

Many thanks for the very warm welcome. I've had a difficult day today and so it was much appreciated.

Apologies if I've missed any questions - if so, just ask them again :)

Personally I'd like to hear more on the topic of the Hyperdimensional Artificial Intelligence.. Has there been any new information?

Anunnaki technology (real-life, present-day) which the PTB have had for some twenty years now.

Your opinion please :
1)Chemtrails- harmful , not harmful or a mixed bag around the world?

2)Flu- As it is subsiding the first wave can we expect wave 2 or 3 this year. Thanks for the D-3 advise too?

3)What are the percentage of white hats (good guys) around the world vs. the dark side, U.S. and world ?

1) Harmful

2) Personal opinion: we can expect the waves to keep coming. I think Deagle has it correctly assessed. How serious it'll be - I think there may be problems, but not as great as intended or feared.

3) Great question. If you mean on the inside, as a pure personal (conservative) guess I'd say 15% are actively good, 15% are bad, and the rest are just keeping their heads down and doing their job. I may be WAY wrong about those numbers. I doubt that the white hat numbers are less. They could be a lot more.

Has there been any news of disclosure as the Nov27 date came and went and now we are hearing mention of January or February. Is that the case or is the plan to disclose been squashed yet?

Deafening silence. No new information. We weren't holding our breaths, and were not surprised that nothing happened. We reported what Peterson was told and what he shared with us. He himself pointed out immediately that it was just a plan, and that plans can change. But there is certainly a steady build-up and preparation for something, sometime. What and when, we have to see.

I'm just wondering what your opnion on 'Cristopher Story'

We no longer pay any attention to him. Nothing we have ever heard from anyone, ever, corroborates any of his information.

All best wishes, Bill

Seashore

12-07-2009, 06:27 PM

Thanks, Bill.

I have a concern about the mission of Camelot witness Dr Bill Deagle being undermined by his critics.

Specifically I am referring to the fact that evidently Clif High of Half Past Human has said publicly that Dr Bill is a paid CIA agent. My understanding is that Clif bases this opinion on the fact that Dr Bill is a "non-starter" in Clif's data gathering which means that he does not resonate OR simply put, he is lying. This is what I've seen posted on a thread here at Avalon.

Can you address this at all? Is Clif High's technology and interpretation credible in your opinion?

mudra

12-07-2009, 06:37 PM

Thank you Bill for making the Avalon gates open to everyone.
I trust this is the right decision and that the good it carries will
be returned to you a thousand times.
You and Kerry did change my life.
Forever gratefull to you.
I bow in respect for your relentless work .
I am honored to be part of the team .

Love from me
mudra

GoingToFast

12-07-2009, 06:45 PM

Hello Bill .

I'm one of the "Oldies" that's coming back to Avalon, and like I have sad earlier today on another thread, I hope and Believe the atmosphere will be better this time around, some of us including me have learned the lesson (hopefully) and that is - Think Before You Speak !!!

Give my best wishes to Kerry and tell her that sometimes I'm a Pesky Redheaded *******.... hope she forgives me for shouting my stupid mouth of...

Best Wishes to you both.... TALLYHO...

Bill Ryan

12-07-2009, 06:45 PM

I have a concern about the mission of Camelot witness Dr Bill Deagle being undermined by his critics.

Specifically I am referring to the fact that evidently Clif High of Half Past Human has said publicly that Dr Bill is a paid CIA agent.

As best we understand, Clif High set a PI [Private Investigator] on Deagle's bank account without Deagle's knowledge or consent, with an instruction to look for something that could be used against him.

The PI found some income that he could not account for and Clif therefore assumed that he must be a paid agent.

It's an understatement to say that this is very dumb of Clif, who is normally a bright guy. If anyone looked in to my bank account, or yours, or anyone's, they would find things they didn't understand. I don't even understand my own bank statements sometimes.

And because this was all done without Deagle's consent, he was never asked if there was an innocent explanation.

Not good research - and very underhand. We should not be doing this to one another.

My solid opinion: Deagle is a very good man. We've spoken with him extensively, on and off record.

One amazing conversation I witnessed two years ago and have never forgotten (because I was physically in the room where Henry Deacon/ Arthur Neumann was talking with him on Skype) was Deagle and Henry comparing places and projects where they had both worked. Project names, codewords, clearances, everything. They figured out that they must have bumped into one another but couldn't recall where. The conversation lasted 45 minutes and was quite something else.

We've visited his house and met his wife and children. He's a huge-hearted soul with a brain the size of a small planet. He is also human. I respect him highly.

Swanny

12-07-2009, 06:48 PM

Hi Bill thx for opening up the forum again :thumb_yello:

Myra

12-07-2009, 07:11 PM

Thank you Bill for coming here and thanks to you and Kerry for all that you do:flowers2:

Also thank you for making the Forum free again. It's important to give many others access to this Forum during these very interesting times!:wink2:

kriya

12-07-2009, 07:47 PM

Hi Bill,

Thanks for making the forum free it's much appreciated:thumb_yello:

Love Kriya

p.s I would be very interested to hear about your abduction experience if you are willing to share it.

Phtha

12-07-2009, 07:48 PM

Hi Bill I just want to chime in and brown nose a little.

Thank you (and Kerry) so much for starting project camelot and avalon. You guys have done incredible amounts of good. Even if you only woke up one person that would be incredibly good, but you guys are at the front lines awakening the masses, and I thank you for it.

Opening the forum is great as well, it was starting to stagnate a little as mentioned.

And jeese... I didn't know Privite Eyes could access other peoples bank account information... that alone is wrong lol.

pineal-pilot-in merkabah

12-07-2009, 07:53 PM

hi bill.
what are your future video interveiw plans or is it still just a case of winging it :)

did you do an interveiw with that polish chap?

i aqgree about that story guy i can now spot disinfo from quite a way off lol..

my antennae have been sharpened a lot in the last year.

whats happened to george green ??

will you be planning anythimng in the uk conference lecture wise??

sorry for so many questions ;/

take care:smoke:

tone3jaguar

12-07-2009, 07:57 PM

DOMINIC 777

12-07-2009, 08:28 PM

Hello Bill,
nice to see you around
I am getting a bit disillusioned with E.T's, the more you do for Mankind ,the less help you get from them......ever met a Pleiadian?
dom

Karen

12-07-2009, 08:33 PM

lindabaker

12-07-2009, 08:41 PM

My solid opinion: Deagle is a very good man. We've spoken with him extensively, on and off record.

I had Dr. D's company's colloidal silver tested, and it meets and exceeds standards. Recommend. I will now have other immune defense products tested, although I wouldn't hesitate to use them without the test. I want to add one thing: Dr. D. made a remark that caused a lot of chatter. The remark about being a descendant of Moses. Well, of course, he could be! I know for sure that people keep very close track of their descendancy through tribes, to this very day. Not impossible or outlandish. Just my opinion, not trying to rekindle an old log! LB

BlackLight43

12-07-2009, 08:49 PM

GoingToFast

12-07-2009, 08:51 PM

Hello Bill, now that we have got your attention, I have a suggestion for the forum. Over in the Camelot area there is the section that is called Camelot Witnesses. I am kind of an organizational neat freak when it comes to digital stuff which is why my suggestion is that the posts in those threads be archived and those particular forums be closed since no one ever uses them anymore.

I hope you don't mind me saying this tone3jaguar .. but there are two words here that makes the hair on my neck stand out and those words are "ARCHIVED" and "CLOSED", those words gives me the "JIDDERS", if you close them no one will ever use them or READ THEM again...EVER... So whats the point, leave'em be what's the harm of their mere existence.

jem284

12-07-2009, 10:49 PM

Hi Bill
I am glad you are back on the forum.
Thank you so much for all the interviews that you and Kerry bring to Camelot.
They are awesome !!
So keep up the good work.
I was wondering if you or Kerry have heard from Arthur Neumann (Henry Decaon) or Pete Peterson and if they where going to do any follow up interviews.
I am very interested in knowing more about Arthur's experiences on Mars.
I think that would be a great interview!!
Thanks again~~:lmao:

Ross H

12-07-2009, 11:11 PM

Thank you Bill,
I appreciate your responses to some of the questions.

Be safe and take good care.

Peace.

bushycat

12-07-2009, 11:17 PM

Thanks for all, Bill.

Hope your day is getting much better.

Love Always,
Bushycat

Bill Ryan

12-07-2009, 11:29 PM

Hi Bill,

Thanks for making the forum free it's much appreciated:thumb_yello:

Love Kriya

p.s I would be very interested to hear about your abduction experience if you are willing to share it.

Perfect timing, Kriya. It's all in here - just released about an hour ago.

[Edit: I'd posted a new video here, recorded by Freedom Central. It was a few hours old. I've just learned there were some reported bugs in the video. I'd taken all of Freedom Central's 18 separate parts and put them into one timeline, then re-exported it - seems like there was a repeated segment.

Believe it or not, I'd not even watched it all myself. I'd like to get this right while it's only had a few hundred views - also not yet announced on the Camelot site. I'll re-edit and re-upload it tomorrow. My apologies.]

Ross H

12-08-2009, 12:08 AM

Bravo Bill,

I've said it before...Nothing really matters other than understanding who we really are...as this produces freedom. We must rise above the illusions of this exsitence in order to 'be' who we really are. Its all a game and we are just players.

Tap into love ppls and the game is far more enjoyable...:thumb_yello:

Peace always

joe2288

12-08-2009, 12:14 AM

hey can somebody make a post of the main points covered in this video i don't

have two hours to watch the whole thing thanks

watermunky

12-08-2009, 12:31 AM

Hey! it's been taken down already. Can someone please help I was realy wanting to watch this. I'm Bills biggest fan!

Karen

12-08-2009, 12:35 AM

Freedom Central
18 parts
A little bit better video quality
YouTube- Bill Ryan talks to Freedom Central Zurich November 2009, 1 of 18

Brinty

12-08-2009, 12:57 AM

hey can somebody make a post of the main points covered in this video i don't

have two hours to watch the whole thing thanks

It's a shame to be so "busy". :sad:

Lightpotential

12-08-2009, 01:00 AM

Dear Bill,

If I may ask, I am wondering very much about what both you and Kerry think about Dan Burisch. Ever since the Zurich conference, he appears to have 'disowned' Project Camelot, and has written a lot of negative things about you and Kerry and also David Wilcock on his website, Eagles Disobey. Indeed, the vaccine issue seemed to be a very big point of contention.

I would ask, do you and Kerry still 'believe in him' as a witness, and that the videos as still appear on your site are correct, or has your opinion changed (perhaps radically?) as to Dan Burisch as a reliable source?

Sincerely

LP

watermunky

12-08-2009, 01:06 AM

Thank you very much Karen

Magamud

12-08-2009, 01:16 AM

Great work Bill thanks...

SWIFT

12-08-2009, 01:20 AM

Hi Mr Bill Ryan,
Great work and totaly agree with the free soul,:mfr_lol:
Peace:thumb_yello:
SWIFTY

Seashore

12-08-2009, 01:24 AM

Bill,

Please please please try to arrange an interview with Stewart Swerdlow. You'll be seeing him in February at the MKULTRA Mind Control Conference - how convenient! :original:

TRANCOSO

12-08-2009, 01:38 AM

Hi Bill
Thanx for all the work & commitment you've put into PC & PA. Respect.
I also have a question.
What's your opinion - if any - on the Supriem David Rockefeller subject? Have you read Wes Penre's book/pdf? (If not I recomend it.) Is there a chance of an interview with Penre? I think that would be quite interesting, given the wide range of topics (Lucifer, Anunnaki, ancient Egypt, Thule Society, to name a few) that are part of his book.

pyrangello

12-08-2009, 01:48 AM

Bill , On a softer note I think you should sell a line of that hat you wear, autographed by you , inflate it a bit so the proceeds go to PC, I am serious as I would be placing an order, PC / PA coffe cups too sitting right on my desk so you'll have more people asking what's that.

As I am religious to I do believe there is a god, angels, and saints have you ever considered doing an interview in that direction ? If not why? And there is a newsletter I recieve every month from Elizabeth Baron who channels St. Catherine www.elizabethbaron.com . Her channeled predictions do hold some merit. I will add learning on this site and PC has opened my eyes and mind to so many different dimensions but I have had many miraculous incidents happen to and around me from the ones I have listed above as well. Just your thoughts if you please.

strevane

12-08-2009, 02:10 AM

Just wanted to thank you, Bill, for your extraordinary hard work.

There is one question:

My friend has noticed a pull in the direction of contact with her galactic family. However, she has no idea how to go about it.

Would you have any advice?

Luminari

12-08-2009, 02:43 AM

Bill, thank you so much for opening this thread.

I opened a door for you at the Novotel resort in Australia last year which was the closest we came
to meeting but I must say, you have opened many, many doors for me. Again thank you.

Many of us here are studying the A’shayana Deane aka Anna Hayes material
and would like to know if there are any Camelot plans to interview her re; Stargates, DNA changes, ET agendas etc?

This seems ideal as it ties in with all of your other work, any thoughts on that?

Off to watch your Freedom Central interview now..

Cheers and have a magical day filled with bliss.

Phtha

12-08-2009, 03:30 AM

Hi Bill, Great interview so far, I'm near half way I'll be watching the rest later. My question may have been answered in the later parts but if not...

What is the method you use for past life regression? Scrying? Tatwa? Mesmerism? Something else?
I'd love to hear a little about that. I think the most important aspect of past life regression aside from the points you brought up, is that it gives one absolute proof of reincarnation and our everlastingness.

Derek

12-08-2009, 03:40 AM

Hey bill, Thanks so much for everything you do. You have completely changed my life and many others.

Just one question:

What do you expect in the next six months?

TruthWillSetUFree

12-08-2009, 03:46 AM

Hi Dear Bill

Thanks for checking in with your Avalon crew.

Ditto all the sentiments everyone has already conveyed, you and Kerry are amazing, hard working, and wonderful people without which I wouldn't have been as far on my path of Truth as I am....thank you for everything!

My question is about disinformation.

It seems the disinformation is getting worse, now we are finding infighting even within the Truth movement. Many times going so far as name dropping, as in the case of Dr Deagle and True Ott saying the Jane Burgermeister is a disinfo agent. I believed this until I watched the video interview you did with Jane, which was outstanding, btw.

How do you and Kerry reconcile this when you know and have befriended so many of the same people who end up being accused of being disinfo agents?

Do you know why Deagle and Ott went to such lengths as doing an entire YouTube video against her? Even putting out such an awful picture of a woman and saying it was her?

I am sure you and Kerry would agree that one of the most challenging things is finding good honest people who are willing to share the Truth as they know it. Besides the questions above what are the things that you look for to discern Truth for yourselves?

Thanks again for all you do, take time to smell the roses on your journey! :wub2:

Love & Light
<Truth>

Luminari

12-08-2009, 06:31 AM

Just watched all 18 parts of the Freedom Central interview.

Its astonishingly good Bill, brilliant stuff, I especially liked your motivational encouraging parts.. thanks.

*unrelated note to moderators*
Just now I noticed someone has rated this thread 4 stars (I don't like the star rating system at all and would prefer if it is disabled as it gets abused) anyway I thought seeing as someone has already rated it I might as well give it 5 stars to bump it up. When I clicked it said "you have already rated this thread". I most certainly did not do any such thing, so something funny is going on there...?

Anchor

12-08-2009, 06:34 AM

*unrelated note*
Just now I noticed someone has rated this thread 4 stars (I don't like the star rating system at all and would prefer if it is disabled as it gets abused) anyway I thought seeing as someone has already rated it I might as well give it 5 stars to bump it up. When I clicked it said "you have already rated this thread". I most certainly did not do any such thing, so something funny is going on there...?

It says the same for me too. Odd.

Stupid system :wall:

A..

Anchor

12-08-2009, 06:37 AM

I noticed that when you post in "advanced" mode you get the chance to score the thread there - that worked for me.

I checked when I was posting this and now the option isnt there so that part is working (cause I already rated the thread)

Derek

12-08-2009, 07:16 AM

Tramik

12-08-2009, 09:08 AM

Hi Bill. This is a clip of an email I sent you guys. I know you're very busy. I'd just like an opinion. If it's too complex of a topic I understand. Thanks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

The thing I don’t get is this. We can acknowledge that a hostile race(s) has controlled and manipulated our lives, yet benevolent races feel it is our own responsibility to break free, as if we were not already born into a slaved world that didn’t use a series of drugs and technology to keep this from happening.

What do you feel it would take for us (by us, I mean the inhabitants of all the human races of earth) to prove we are species worth saving? “Saving” is a very key word in that question. It mandates that we be relieved of our responsibilities, and I recognized that. I also recognized that we are not entirely responsible for what is happening to us. The reason why I say “saved” is because we do not poses the technology to actually physically resist these armies/inhabitants.

Bill Ryan

12-08-2009, 10:52 AM

Hello, All:

Please forgive abbreviated questions and abbreviated replies. :) No discourtesy intended if my reply is a short one. Do also let me know if I've missed anything.

hi bill.
what are your future video interveiw plans or is it still just a case of winging it :)

did you do an interveiw with that polish chap?

whats happened to george green ??

will you be planning anythimng in the uk conference lecture wise??

We'll be at the Barcelona Free Energy Congress in February:

http://freeenergiescongress.com

Still working on the Nazi Bell interview with Igor Witkowski. We had some problems with the video footage and are only just now in a position to start editing.

We're in regular touch with George Green.

Nothing planned for the UK.

Ever met a Pleiadian?

I did know someone very well a while back who both I and they were certain had been reincarnated here from the Pleiades two lifetimes ago (i.e. one Earth lifetime before the current one). They had a bunch of fascinating memories.

I was wondering if you or Kerry have heard from Arthur Neumann (Henry Decaon) or Pete Peterson and if they where going to do any follow up interviews.
I am very interested in knowing more about Arthur's experiences on Mars.
I think that would be a great interview!!

Pete Peterson is very tied up and we've not been able to catch up with him properly, although Kerry has talked with him once on the phone since September. We would love to do a follow-up audio interview with him.

Henry/Arthur is very much out of the scene at the moment and we are not in touch with him. We were given to understand that his Mars statement in Barcelona ruffled quite a few feathers. Apparently this is something that is absolutely off limits to talk about on record. Henry/Arthur unwittingly crossed a line. We were told that he would never be permitted to talk about that again - and sure enough, he has not. We know where he is but are not confident we will ever hear from him again. He was a personal friend, and a troubled soul, and there is much that was never resolved.

hey can somebody make a post of the main points covered in this video i don't have two hours to watch the whole thing thanks

I'll re-release it today as an audio-only MP3. Easier to listen to for a long "talking head" and no need to see me in person as there's no interaction with any other person on camera. Also better than 18 YouTube parts, which is a hassle. It'll be announced on the Camelot site.

If I may ask, I am wondering very much about what both you and Kerry think about Dan Burisch.

I would ask, do you and Kerry still 'believe in him' as a witness, and that the videos as still appear on your site are correct, or has your opinion changed (perhaps radically?) as to Dan Burisch as a reliable source?

We have no quarrel with Dan, and believe that much of his testimony is reliable. We've had this confirmed from others associated with http://danburisch.info (Don Deppeller's site) who've known him well for many years.

They confirm that his personal testimony is not fabricated, although the context and circumstances in which he operates are heavily controlled and influenced. For that reason his interviews are still on the Camelot site.

Kerry and I are sorry for the loss of another friend and do NOT fully understand the reasons for this. Almost nothing of what was written on Eagles Disobey had any resemblance to the truth, and much was heavily fictionalized (no better word to use). But Dan did not write that material himself. Our stance was to continue our work.

What's your opinion - if any - on the Supriem David Rockefeller subject? Have you read Wes Penre's book/pdf? (If not I recomend it.) Is there a chance of an interview with Penre? I think that would be quite interesting, given the wide range of topics (Lucifer, Anunnaki, ancient Egypt, Thule Society, to name a few) that are part of his book.

We've corresponded with Wes Penre [http://illuminati-news.com] and have the highest opinion of his courage and his work. We'd like to talk with him more.

Bill , On a softer note I think you should sell a line of that hat you wear, autographed by you , inflate it a bit so the proceeds go to PC, I am serious as I would be placing an order, PC / PA coffee cups too sitting right on my desk so you'll have more people asking what's that.

As I am religious to I do believe there is a god, angels, and saints have you ever considered doing an interview in that direction ? If not why? And there is a newsletter I recieve every month from Elizabeth Baron who channels St. Catherine www.elizabethbaron.com . Her channeled predictions do hold some merit. I will add learning on this site and PC has opened my eyes and mind to so many different dimensions but I have had many miraculous incidents happen to and around me from the ones I have listed above as well. Just your thoughts if you please.

Merchandising is a theoretical option, yes. (Not sure about the autographed hat idea, though.)

We're very wary of channeled information for obvious reasons, as there's as much trickery and deception in spiritual realms (if not more) as there is here on Planet Earth.

It's easy for a mischievous invisible being (like an anonymous poster on a forum) to claim that they are anything or anyone at all. They don't have IP addresses and never have to verify their identity.

The invisible spiritual world is a huge, tangled and complex mess and in my personal opinion very few people who are open to these concepts are fully aware how many tricks and traps may lie in wait for them.

Of course, authentic and valuable instances also exist and are definitely really out there. There are also diamonds buried among all the mud, sometimes not easy to find.

My friend has noticed a pull in the direction of contact with her galactic family. However, she has no idea how to go about it. Would you have any advice?

Great question. We get dozens of e-mails like this, often from young people. They are clearly sensing some valid off-planet connection which is very likely to be real.

My advice would be patience. Your friend may have a life plan which is unfolding whether or not she is consciously aware of it. Extraordinary things may unfold, and I think the Law of Allowance applies here.

Just let it all happen - and also (see above) be aware of the possibility of illusions and trickery.

Bill, thank you so much for opening this thread.

I opened a door for you at the Novotel resort in Australia last year which was the closest we came
to meeting but I must say, you have opened many, many doors for me. Again thank you.

Many of us here are studying the A’shayana Deane aka Anna Hayes material
and would like to know if there are any Camelot plans to interview her re; Stargates, DNA changes, ET agendas etc?

Thanks for opening the door! (send me a photo and I may remember...)

Kerry is in touch with Anna Hayes and greatly values her work.

What is the method you use for past life regression? Scrying? Tatwa? Mesmerism? Something else?
I'd love to hear a little about that. I think the most important aspect of past life regression aside from the points you brought up, is that it gives one absolute proof of reincarnation and our everlastingness.

Scientology processing (original material from L. Ron Hubbard) - but NOT the Church of Scientology. Stay away from them at all costs.

We'll soon be releasing a dynamite interview on this subject from a Church of Scientology whistleblower who blew the Church of Scientology apart 27 years ago and who has never before come forward publicly. This is the first announcement we've made about that. It's a transcript that runs to 26,500 words and is an astonishing story, even by Camelot standards. I hope to release this by the end of this week.

My question is about disinformation.

It seems the disinformation is getting worse, now we are finding infighting even within the Truth movement. Many times going so far as name dropping, as in the case of Dr Deagle and True Ott saying the Jane Burgermeister is a disinfo agent. I believed this until I watched the video interview you did with Jane, which was outstanding, btw.

How do you and Kerry reconcile this when you know and have befriended so many of the same people who end up being accused of being disinfo agents?

This is a vast question and I can only really touch on a proper reply.

We try to remain even handed at all times. We seek to remain positive and not assume bad motives of people. There ARE agents in the mix, of course, but probably far fewer than most might believe. Why spend money deploying agents into the alternative media to cause confusion and conflict when we sabotage ourselves and each other really well on our own anyway?

The way we work (if possible) is this. If A attacks B, and we know and trust both parties, then we don't take sides except to clarify positive aspects. We may try to mediate behind the scenes, but this does not always work. (It's possible to get burned that way.)

Re Jane Burgermeister, she is exactly who she says she is and I know her personally. She is human, as are you and I, and there's no-one in this entire movement who has not made mistakes or had a bad day. Meanwhile, Bill Deagle is a good man - see my earlier response about him on page 1 here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=195329&postcount=23

We were concerned that Deagle might also take sides against us, but he has not. Great credit to him for also being even-handed and not mixing things up.

There are no bad guys here: just human misunderstandings and hurt emotions. This happens a lot, as the heat increases in the kitchen (as it is everywhere).

Hi Bill. This is a clip of an email I sent you guys. I know you're very busy. I'd just like an opinion. If it's too complex of a topic I understand. Thanks.
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The thing I don’t get is this. We can acknowledge that a hostile race(s) has controlled and manipulated our lives, yet benevolent races feel it is our own responsibility to break free, as if we were not already born into a slaved world that didn’t use a series of drugs and technology to keep this from happening.

What do you feel it would take for us (by us, I mean the inhabitants of all the human races of earth) to prove we are species worth saving? “Saving” is a very key word in that question. It mandates that we be relieved of our responsibilities, and I recognized that. I also recognized that we are not entirely responsible for what is happening to us. The reason why I say “saved” is because we do not poses the technology to actually physically resist these armies/inhabitants.

Another great question. Sometimes (when having a bad day :)) I walk down the street, and wonder whether the human race deserves to make it through.

But I like the line in the wonderful 1984 Jeff Bridges movie STARMAN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starman_(film)) where he says:

There are many savage intelligent races in the universe, but our race is interested in you because you are a beautiful people. You are at your best when things are at their worst.

I've never forgotten that line.

lovepromoter

12-08-2009, 11:14 AM

much love to both yourself bill and kerry for everything you have done for myself and my friends

seeingterra

12-08-2009, 11:43 AM

Good to see you here amongst the masses Bill :)

I'm looking forward to hearing the personal interview later this evening (at work now). I have been looking to compare cases with you, and this seems like a great way of doing so now.

A question; I seemed to have a "nordic alien" (tall, white robe, gold belt, blonde to the neck hair) standing beside my bed in my case telling me to be calm etc, at the same time two rather small long armed "grey's"(I think, it was a little dark) came towards me up in my bed.

Long story short, next morning, woke up with my palm full of dried up blood.
No physical evidence of abuse or anything like that (no traces of blood in the nose), only tender spots on my middle chest.

This however made (makes) me wonder about the statements regarding the "nordics" involvement and perhaps agenda.

Do you have any opinions\ experiences that can elaborate more on this?

This might seem overly personal, but I am at the point of "do-not-care", I got trough it eventually.

No worries if not, just want to get this in the clear and perhaps an answer from a respected view :)

Thanks a bunch bill !

rhythm

12-08-2009, 12:16 PM

Bills new vidios
posted here
are a real
must see ...
thanks Bill ...
so make up your own mind
... namaste rhythmmm ..

Samarkis

12-08-2009, 12:50 PM

Welcome home, Bill & Kerry.........we love it when you are home.........

In Light!

TheChosen

12-08-2009, 07:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChosen
Personally I'd like to hear more on the topic of the Hyperdimensional Artificial Intelligence.. Has there been any new information?

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan
Anunnaki technology (real-life, present-day) which the PTB have had for some twenty years now.

Ahhha.. thank you very much for that piece of information Bill... that explains a whole lot to me on a personal level and I will be focusing on this topic even more. I've discovered so far I've been heavily involved with the Anunnaki in previous lifetimes (this one also a bit)... now it makes sense why I feel so strongly about the AI as well.

Jacqui D

12-08-2009, 07:15 PM

Hi Bill just watched the whole freedom central video excellent look into your insight into things some thing that was much appreciated.
Very interesting Bill about your own experiences while growing up and how they have panned out in your older years and now can see why such things happen for ones own purpose in life.
An on going theme that is obvious is how most who congregate here have had or are having similar experiences and past life scenarios.
More are now having memories of off planet lives and this being their first incarnation here on earth, i know i am from future times and have come back to this time line.
It was nice to see you on video too Bill i actually prefer watching the speaker rather than listening.
If someone could sort out the various vids though it was very puzzling trying to find them in sequence.:thumb_yello:

powerviolence

12-08-2009, 08:21 PM

Bill, Im a new member to avalon, thanks for the making the forum available to all.

Are you aware of the Hidden Hand's testimony? it's on Wes Penre's site, and would it be possible for Camelot in any way to present that info so it becomes more widespread?

Also, are you guys familiar with the Terra Papers? I've never ever heard you guys mention it at all, I think it's a required read for anybody interested in these topics, also, an interview with Robert Morning Sky would probably be very interesting.

And lastly, please don't sell hats, or anything else for that matter, Camelot is so modest and noble at the moment, I would hate to see any type of merchandise, advertising or commercialization of anything, it would ruin the purpose of the message and would detract more than a few, I know for a fact if I see somebody selling anything I'll think thrice before believing a word they say. Are you familiar with the underground DIY/anarchism movement that originated in england in the late 70s and still lives on to this day? Camelot reminds me of it in a small way, keep it up.

Phtha

12-08-2009, 08:32 PM

Thanks Derek. Hypnosis never works well for me, I prefer scrying myself. There are some free videos on you tube that are similar (or maybe the same ones) from the link you posted.

this will help http://www.mypastlife.com/past-life-regression-cd.html :original:

Bill, I look forward to that interview on the scientology whistle blower. Cheers.

NicholaQuinn

12-08-2009, 08:41 PM

Hiya Bill,
great to see you on the forum.

1. Anymore news from Patrick Geryl regarding the Labyrinth at Hawara?
2. Any updates regarding Dr Pete Peterson?
3. Last but not least, any info regarding the Pickering bros source A?

Thanks matey.:wink2:

Oliver

12-08-2009, 08:48 PM

Hello, Bill, thank you for being with us.
I would like to ask you if you have any inside info about MJ12 being divided these days concerning the disclosure?

Love&Respect

carriblu

12-09-2009, 09:32 PM

Bill,
you are one of the most well articulated, thought out people i have ever encountered and on top of it you dont force your beliefs on other people or need to speak when the time isn't right. i want to thank you for everything you're doing and for being a huge inspiration and influence on me.

Brinty

12-09-2009, 10:01 PM

Majorion

12-09-2009, 11:14 PM

Bill, will you and Kerry ever do a feature length Henry Deacon video interview, its a real shame if he's gone now!!

joe2288

12-09-2009, 11:37 PM

What happened to that Goerge green video not being loaded with all the others i

freaking love that guy and i wanna know his latest opinions on the state of

things well if anybody knows how to get it let me know asap

Antonia

12-10-2009, 12:30 AM

Hi Bill... Great to have you back here posting... I'm much the same vein as Luminarie.. (The open door).. and am very taken with Asha'yana Dean's material... it just resignates well and fills in a few blancs with my own very distant fragmented past life memories from the Orion sector and Orion wars.. So a lot of her universal histrory has me rivited. Is there an interview some where down the pipe line?? I know you say Kerry is in contact with her but will it amount to any thing bigger? Keep up the incredable work... Camelot has really changed my life too...

SWIFT

12-10-2009, 01:13 AM

Hi Bill :welcomeani:,
What's your take from the insiders on the Norway event :winksmiley02:last night,
Cheers
SWIFTY:thumb_yello:

JesterTerrestrial

12-10-2009, 02:33 AM

Greetings Bill Ryan!

Wonderful words of wisdom you share in this video! The passion in your research shows with amazing colour as always :thumb_yello: and I continue to stand by the original mission...even though I have never signed the round table ah well :D Call me crazy but I do believe that humanity has a chance to overcome the enormous issues we face and avalon has played a major role in this astonishing accomplishment. As pall Hellyer said so well in APRIL 2008 LETS BRING THE PLANET BACK FROM THE BRINK OF DESTRUCTION!

Project Camelot and Project Avalon
A BLESSING to US ALL. A BEACON in a time of MAGIC!

HUMANS OF EARTH STAND!

WE OVERCOME ALL ODDS!

WE CAN HEAL THE DAMAGE!

Nice work indeed! PEACE JT :mfr_lol:

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss328/JesterTerrestrial/best_of_2009_so_far.jpg

so far because its a flippin blizzard here and I'm yet to view that last few parts! The snow is going sideways my wireless internet link is frozen. :lmfao: Whats your take on how disclosure is going to go down and what we might expect as far as a gameplan to getting the new technologies to the people? Just in general I was wondering your thoughts. I have some ideas of my own as to when the phierflys might light themselves up!

Tramik

12-10-2009, 11:18 AM

Hey Bill, just thought I'd say I really enjoyed your interview. You addressed some questions I had. One of them was whether or not the Annunaki were Reptilian. Your answer pretty much mirrored my own.

I'd really like to see you and Kerry comment more personally on either individuals and their stories, books/documentaries, etc.

Your interview, oddly enough, answered more questions than most people you yourself interview (which typically generate more questions than they answer). Keep up the good work, we're rootin' fer ya'!

jaby

12-10-2009, 11:25 AM

Keep up the good work, we're rootin' fer ya'!

Yeah...we're rootin' fer ya ! :original:

Love you Bill. Love you Kerry.

0r!oN

12-10-2009, 12:32 PM

Hey!:rm_robot:

Big fan ofcoz!:thumb_yello:
your work is great and has opened alot of minds:)
i am from Norway my self and we have had some xsta0rdenary stuff going on in our night skies l8ly.

our main national newspaper:

http://www.vgtv.no/?id=27559

They try to tell us it is a rocket from a russian u-bout:mfr_lol:
Funny rocket behaving like this and is giving out so much light that it is seen by most of the nothern scandinavia

Enyways i wanna thank you again for your great work

PS. I am a amature editor adding some visuals to the Camelot interviews
making a miniseries called Insiders Tales.First episode will be up on utube during christmas.Futering Bill Holden.striped away politics and discussion.Leaving the main personal storie of mr. Holden.Made for free for us Camelot fans:)i will post a link when its done.Hope you get the time to have a look at it and tell us what you think

Emil Pettersen
[0r!oN]

Peace of mind

12-10-2009, 03:35 PM

Hi Bill,

I was wondering what you think about the Governor Jesse Ventura. He has a conspiracy show, and IMO it looks official. I’m posting this because I have some concern for him and his staff. I admire their efforts and think they should have some practice with spirituality. I strongly believe if they are to succeed in this work they need to learn how to conquer fears and shield themselves. In last nights episode I saw a strange look in Jesse’s eyes and some of his staff members as they started to get deeper into the conspiracy. That look was fear.

So, would you work with Jesse? (He has political power and media access). And, he also seems to have a vendetta against the government. I’m sure he is also looking for more material and what you and Kerry do just might be that material…just trying to help build a resistance, a team to fight the PTB.
Sorry if this was posted already…or offensive.

Peace

Bill Ryan

12-10-2009, 03:58 PM

Hi, All:

Many thanks to everyone for your generous words.

A question; I seemed to have a "nordic alien" (tall, white robe, gold belt, blonde to the neck hair) standing beside my bed in my case telling me to be calm etc, at the same time two rather small long armed "grey's"(I think, it was a little dark) came towards me up in my bed.

Long story short, next morning, woke up with my palm full of dried up blood.
No physical evidence of abuse or anything like that (no traces of blood in the nose), only tender spots on my middle chest.

This however made (makes) me wonder about the statements regarding the "nordics" involvement and perhaps agenda.

Do you have any opinions\ experiences that can elaborate more on this?

None at all, I'm afraid... a very high strangeness story, but there are many highly strange personal stories that we have heard. They are often as mysterious to us as to the experiencer.

Are you aware of the Hidden Hand's testimony? it's on Wes Penre's site, and would it be possible for Camelot in any way to present that info so it becomes more widespread?

Also, are you guys familiar with the Terra Papers? I've never ever heard you guys mention it at all, I think it's a required read for anybody interested in these topics, also, an interview with Robert Morning Sky would probably be very interesting.

And lastly, please don't sell hats, or anything else for that matter, Camelot is so modest and noble at the moment, I would hate to see any type of merchandise, advertising or commercialization of anything, it would ruin the purpose of the message and would detract more than a few, I know for a fact if I see somebody selling anything I'll think thrice before believing a word they say.

a. Yes, we know about Hidden Hand's testimony. We were approached by a deep insider, who we believe was totally authentic, who wanted to let us know that Hidden Hand's information was "90% correct" - but NOT 100%. He said there was deliberate disinformation. He was very anxious to let us know what was incorrect. We're in the middle of this at the moment - one of many projects.

b. Terra Papers - yes. I feel some of the story is mixed up with modern information from the internet, but the original story felt that it could be true.

c. Commercialization: Many thanks for your thoughts. They mirror my own precisely. We're currently trying to work through what's best for Camelot, and this is not always obvious or clear. We do welcome feedback from anyone who reads this about overt commercialization such as putting paid adverts on the site.

Personally, I think there are much smarter ways to generate revenue streams which give real added value to visitors, such as small-group, half-day audio conferences, high quality live conference video streaming, a quality newsletter with added commentary/ content value, DVDs of summaries of Camelot research on particular topics, and so on.

1. Anymore news from Patrick Geryl regarding the Labyrinth at Hawara?
2. Any updates regarding Dr Pete Peterson?
3. Last but not least, any info regarding the Pickering bros source A?

No, no, and no :)

I would like to ask you if you have any inside info about MJ12 being divided these days concerning the disclosure?

Nothing on this either, I'm afraid.

Bill, will you and Kerry ever do a feature length Henry Deacon video interview, its a real shame if he's gone now!!

Great question. It's heavily ironic that we spent so much time with Henry/Arthur (total: MANY person-days) and never captured a good quality video interview which presented his story well. The best we have is probably the Jumproom to Mars conversation with David Wilcock, which we feel was a minor classic.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VMwJmIRF7ZE

What happened to that Goerge green video not being loaded with all the others?

Work in progress - apologies again for the delays in getting all this material out there. We have it all and just need to spend a few hours editing and uploading it.

am very taken with Asha'yana Dean's material... Is there an interview some where down the pipe line?? I know you say Kerry is in contact with her but will it amount to any thing bigger?

Yes, Kerry would love to do a full interview.

What's your take from the insiders on the Norway event :winksmiley02:last night?

Highly strange. We've not commented on this so far (a) because it's widely reported and discussed elsewhere, and (b) because we have no definitive information about that this was or could have been.

What's your take on how disclosure is going to go down and what we might expect as far as a gameplan to getting the new technologies to the people? Just in general

The best I've got is as stated and discussed in the Freedom Central video... we have no further information. But it has to be coming.

I was wondering what you think about the Governor Jesse Ventura. He has a conspiracy show, and IMO it looks official. So, would you work with Jesse?

We're happy to work with anyone whose purpose aligns with ours. It takes a large team effort to get this stuff done. Alliances and creative collaboration I think are always well worth considering if both parties end up with a stronger platform.

lightblue

12-10-2009, 08:00 PM

Hi Bill

Thanks a million for your time, generosity and integrity.

I wondered if you have heard anything from Gordon Novel lately. During his interview with Kerry a while ago, he said he would do his very best to release a free energy technology to the world. I this were true, it would indeed revolutionise EVERYTHING. I am most curious whether you have any updates on his whereabouts and plans to do with this piece of info.

Thanks and
Bestest wishes

qbeac

12-10-2009, 08:13 PM

Questions:
- Is Sheldan Nidle info or disinfo?
- Will there be huge earth changes and earth evacuation, as he says?
- Will you consider interviewing him?

Dear Bill, thanks for opening this thread and for all the good work you and Kerry are doing. We REALLY appreciate it and we are doing all we can to help spread the word about Camelot Project all over the Internet.

Very briefly, I have 3 questions-comments:

1) I wonder if Sheldan Nidle is info or disinfo…? I’ve followed him for a few years but I just don’t have enough knowledge (background, sources to verify data, etc.) to be able to discern if he is info or disinfo.

2) In the following short video Sheldan talks about huge earth changes, going to inner-earth, etc. I highly recommend it, it’s only 10 minutes long:

Agarthans, Humanity's Mentors
Huge Earth Changes (10 min)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1AIKJuHkYQ

Sheldan also talks about a possible evacuation of the surface of the earth in several other updates, for instance:

* Update for Apr. 28, 2009 and Oct. 20, 2009
http://paoweb.com/sn042809.htm
http://paoweb.com/sn102009.htm

… Earth's surface, too, is to undergo a vast reconfiguration in synchrony with your transformation (…) Naturally, while this is happening you need to be elsewhere: in the safe haven of Inner Earth. At the same time, we will evacuate from the surface all animals and plants which your local Spiritual Hierarchy deem compatible with the new reality…

… As this plays out, Mother Earth pushes forward with the changes that are to come before you are evacuated from your surface world…

3) Will you consider interviewing Sheldan Nidle?

Thanks a lot. qbeac.

rfebres

12-10-2009, 08:36 PM

Hi Everyone from AZ

Although I have been reading about these stuff for years (all subjects in Camelot, etc) I have not participated much in forums etc, cause I figure most of the answers you have to find within yourself and besides my written English is not that good. That aside, I have read in many other sites that the Illuminati and all those factions like to disclosed their intentions by putting them right on your face (sort of hidden) in movies, etc sometimes using numbers (Gematria) I think is called. While I was reading on David Wilcock's site he was talking about the series "V". So I set out and watch all recent episodes(4). All of which air in Nov. 2009. Due to resume on this date: March 30 2010 (hint: 3... 2... 1... like a count down sequence) Now, one number in one of the episodes really stuck in my mind. The number of "V" ships that arrived on earth (29). If your start from this date: 4(April)2010 which is first month after the episodes resume, and add 29(ships) months to that you get Sept 2012, now add the sequence above (count down) and you get December 2012. Am I crazy? The funny thing though is that I was sending this info to David through his contact page and when I clicked the send button I looked at my computer clock and guess what time it was? 12:12. What do you guys think? Am I going cookoo?

migp

12-10-2009, 08:53 PM

Hi Bill,

What can we expect for the economy next year....could you address on what Mr. Benjamin Fulford says in his blog.....is it going to be a drastic change in the world economy, including the use of hidden technilogy?

TheRebel

12-10-2009, 09:06 PM

Hello Bill,
First thanks to you and Kerry and all Project Camelot Team for all your exemplary work and this is my post since this forum has become free, so thanks a million for that as well. Similar to everyone, i have also have some favourite guests, whom i listen only however i am open to other views and opinions as well. When you were doing Mr. Peterson's interview and while concluding you told that it has been most fascinating interview you had done so far!! We all know that he did share some of the inside information with you all off the camera, but he was restricted on camera; so would not it be a good idea if you can share some of those information wherever feasible to do so as we really did not find much fascination in that interview.....One quick request is that...Would you like to interview "Drunvalo Melchizedek" for throwing some light on all the prevalent issues, i.e. 2012, UFOs, history, mystery, spirituality...i think existing and potential members of Avalon would love to listen to that....Thanks again...talk to you soon!!

Midnight Oil

12-10-2009, 09:18 PM

Hi Bill,

Great decesion to make this forum available for free again.

Are you planning to do an interview with Lou Baldin( aka "Sleeper")?, you know John Lear thinks this guy is for real too..

More q's to come.

Best regards.

geoff

12-10-2009, 09:52 PM

firstly, big ups, much gratitude and respect to you and kerry for your seemly tireless dedication and unbounded energy the both of you have put into project camelot over the years in getting The Truth out there -- Out There (for the rest of us).

secondly, are you aware of and what is your and/or kerry's opinion of the works of (paris france based) Laura Knight-Jadczyk -- author of many enlightening books and wife of internationally known theoretical physicist, Arkadiusz Jadczyk, an expert in hyperdimensional physics? i've never heard or seen you or kerry mention Laura or Ark and was curious if you had plans to interview her and/or Ark? i think it would be one of the most fascinating and far reaching exchanges you and kerry could engage in as laura has been researching and investigating this "stuff" for over thirty some odd years -- i bet you'd have a bit in common to share/talk don't you think? :original: (btw, i thought laura gave a pretty good interview on BBC Radio in Feb '07 at http://redpillpress.com/retail/index.php?main_page=page&id=1&chapter=0 -- with the requisite Charles Fort ‘damned data’ and “I think we’re property” quotes in it.)

thirdly, are you aware of and what your and/or kerry's opinion of the works of (australia based) Dr. Amitakh Stanford at http://xeeatwelve.com/ and more recently http://www.flyingbuffaloes7.net/ ? these writings also make for fascinating insightful reading and seemingly jive congruently with many of the facts and points some of your other interviewees have spoken on. i'm curious to know if you ever have you tried to interview Dr. Stanford when you've been down under in the past and if not, perhaps in the future on your next visit?

with very best wishes to you and kerry for a prosperous '10 as our beautiful earth moves though the shift and into the bright light,

geoff

Landulous

12-10-2009, 10:07 PM

Hi Bill & Kerry.
I registered a while back, but went through bankrupty and could not pay.
But now that it is free, I am registered as Landulous the planet I come from as a Starseed, by people are welcome to call me Scouter John or John.

Question:

1. Is there any way to load a file, specifically Omini Page 15 (I beileve it is spelt that way.) I would be loading on 2 files containing a 2 books that I feel are very important information to get out. It is about spirituality not UFOs or Free energy. So is this possible. I do not think it is. I don't think the forum is set up that way. They are also large files because they are the whole book.

2. Is there any way to load a few audio files, likely large too. Again about spirituality?

It would be nice to share these files if possible. But I am pretty sure the forum does not work that way.
John

Landulous

12-10-2009, 10:21 PM

Testing.

qbeac

12-10-2009, 10:25 PM

Questions:
- Can we trust Dr. Steven Greer, or not?
- Is he sincere in wanting to bring to light Free Energy?
- Is he honest or a double agent (gatekeeper, infiltrated)?
- Does he work for a real contact with “positive ETs”, or for Project Blue Beam (faked or "negative ETs")?

Dear Bill, I know this is a delicate subject, but my question is:

Is Dr. Greer an honest person (or being), or does he have a hidden dark agenda? Does he work for the light or for the dark side?

These are just 3 examples about Dr. Greer that, IMHO, don’t add up too well:

1) Dr. Greer says all ETs are good. But in your excellent interview with him (jul-26-09) you and Kerry said that was an irresponsible statement, and I totally agree with you.

2) I witnessed the incident in the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit (jul-26-09) where some people said they were allegedly intimidated (or threatened) by Dr. Greer when they talked to him about their own Free Energy devices. I am aware it is not yet clear what really happened (Ex: if the accusations against Dr. Greer were true or just a misunderstanding), but still, that incident is kind of suspicious and I think it should be clarified.

3) Dr. Greer says he wants to help people to develop their Free Energy devices. Well, Bill, you saw the “Pantone GEET motor” in Barcelona (jul-26-09): 30% gasoline 70% water and a huge reduction of pollution. It's important to note that his inventor, Paul Pantone, has given for free the plans of his invention so that EVERYBODY can replicate it (see video bellow).

So, if Dr. Greer is sincere about wanting to promote Free Energy devices, here he has a great one: Pantone motor. Would he promote the Pantone motor (in CNN, as he said in Barcelona)? If he did, that would be a very simple, quick and excellent way for people to see for themselves this technology is real and it works. Also, the word would spread all over the world!

Paul's Comments About GEET FREE PLANS
Paul Pantone gives for free to the world his plans to build the Pantone motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXrHLNRmCOk

Detailed instructions to build the Pantone motor
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/GEET%20fuel%20procesor.pdf

But the “strange” fact is that Dr. Greer “is not” promoting such as simple demonstration of an effective Free Energy device like the Pantone GEET motor (or similar devices). Why doesn’t he do it ASAP?

Considering the above, one may wonder about these two possible “hypothesis”:

a) Is Dr. Greer sincere when he says he wants to bring to light Free Energy, or is he perhaps a double agent (gatekeeper) who is trying to identify the best Free Energy devices (to suppress them?), while at the same time he is buying time to help bringing to fruition the elite’s dark agenda?

b) Is Dr. Greer working for a “real contact” with “good ETs”, or is he working for Project Blue Beam?

I’ll explain that last option (“b”) a little better:

Could there be a “bad” Project Blue Beam and a “good and nice” Project Blue Beam? In this last case, that would be a very clever way for the elite to substitute the current “visible and fake” power structure (governments, official politicians) with a new fake one of a higher level: bad ETs pretending to be “good ETs”.

Please, what’s your take on that?

Thanks. qbeac.

Dr. Nicholas Rush

12-10-2009, 10:40 PM

TempestGarden

12-10-2009, 11:44 PM

Hey Bill.

Good to see that you have a presence on the forums. I am very sorry that you will not be on the radio show as I always look forward to your input during interviews. I was one of the ones that has been listening to Camelot Radio since it started and was often listening to it as it was airing live.

I have a question for you that I asked you in email some time ago that I will re-ask here since I didn't get a reply and I think it will be of interest to a lot of us here. You mentioned in one of your recent interviews that you were given information as to what the Annunaki look like. I was wondering if you would be willing to share this info with us?

I figured you would be bombarded with questions, and you are. LOL So, thanks again for taking the time to correspond with us.

indakaz

12-10-2009, 11:58 PM

Bill, do you know anyone who could raise the chemtrail issue at copenhagen?

pyrangello

12-11-2009, 12:06 AM

Your right Bill in the movie contact " We are so at our best when things are the worst". That led me to ask you a follow up to that on movies and any merit to any past or present we should watch . I ask because I get the feeling that many movies are made as a pre-text to condition our mind for positive or negative reasons. In the Movie "Contact " with Jodi Foster after she goes thru the worm hole she was told that we will learn in time when on the beach. In the recent movie "Jumpers" they detail the group with powers as Paladians but never explain who they are in the entire movie. What are your thoughts on Contact, Jumpers, even Star wars and do you recommend any for us to see that are close to what we are and to our history ? Thank You Sir !

Daft Ada

12-11-2009, 12:08 AM

Hi Bill, Thank you for all you and Kerry have done and are doing.

I was looking forward to the new radio show, but I am in the UK and I don't fancy being up at three in the morning either. I notice the radio station want people to pay to listen to their archives :nono: So will you be having the archives on your site please?

May I be bold and share my feelings with you that I can't help feeling that you are stretching yourselves too far. I know you and kerry want to find out as much information as you can, but I thought the point of Camelot was to get that information out to the people?
Of late there have been announcements of interviews you have done and statements that they will be posted by next weekend or within a couple of weeks etc. but weeks and sometimes months pass and they never come, there are still vids missing from the long gone conferences. There was a statement on 27th November that You and Kerry were interviewed by Rumour Mill News Radio and still no Interview.
I find myself going to the site for days on end and sometime there is nothing new, just constant announcements of what you are doing next.
I know you are working 24/7 and knowing you two probably eight days a week, but not a lot of point in doing that if you don't pass the information on.
As far as I am concerned you are my most trustworthy source of information and I know you both know more than you are telling us. but please try and leave time for us. I hope this hasn't come accross as a big criticism, I just get so frustrated waiting for promised info and I am worried that you are going to end up with no time for us at all, or maybe will start selling us the information like Hoagland and others.

Take care and keep up the good work :thumb_yello:

Loved your interview by the way Bill, I could listen to you all day

pilot

12-11-2009, 12:41 AM

:welcomeani:

Hi Bill,
Thank you for making the forum free again and GOOD that the radio show is back on, I missed it, I used to call & speak to you guys, it was fun! Anyway I too am wondering about the rumor mill news interview, would love to hear it, and also looking forward to you getting to interview Raylean, she does have an interesting story.

Best to both you and Kerry, you are much appreciated!!

DeborahLynnK

12-11-2009, 12:55 AM

Dear Bill,

I'm wondering if you and Kerry might interview Ashayana Deane, Marshall Vian Summers, George Kavassilas, and/or Drunvalo Melchizadek?

Also wondering what you think of David Wilcock's recent very positive views of what is occurring - such as the imminent fall of the Illuminate, and if we could be out of the woods with the dark ET's?

I hope that Kerry asks David Wilcock his views about this, as to whether his positive views means that the dark ET's will soon no longer be of concern, as he sees the fall of the Illuminate.

Thank you,
Deborah

1love

12-11-2009, 01:19 AM

Hey Bill, I was just curious in regards to the Project Light Warrior Site. Do you guys have any format ideas and what type of content will be included in Project Light Warrior?

Magii

12-11-2009, 01:21 AM

Greetings Bill -

One awesome question for you ..

Will you guys ever do a radio interview with Lou "Sleeper" Baldin ?

thanks!

THEWATCHER

12-11-2009, 02:30 AM

Murphy's Law, You come back in Bill as I saunter out LOL:mfr_lol:

IMU

12-11-2009, 02:38 AM

Hi, Bill! It is great to write to you! Enjoyed the James Martinez interview very much! Thanks for the new forum! Take care, greetings from Budapest! :winksmiley02:

Jetamus

12-11-2009, 02:39 AM

I am definitely interested in Bills opinion on guys like Sheldan Nidle and Mark Huber.

robyn

12-11-2009, 02:53 AM

Hi Bill, ditto on your appearance and the forum being free again. Thanks for the wonderful work you and Kerry do. I think we can all agree that it means far more than we can express with a simple thank you. I didn't mind paying tho, I know this forum isn't free for y'all to run.

I was very interested to read about your insider info on Hidden Hand and had thought as much. It was a real relief to see it verified. I wondered tho if the false info is simply to obscure identity or for a darker purpose. I'll be very interested to see what you come up with on this.

It sounds similar to something David Wilcock recently posted: higher beings are "managing" what happens here so that it doesn't go too far or get too "dark" and that we are nudged in the right direction.

Cheers,
Robyn

cmang

12-11-2009, 02:54 AM

Hi Bill (and Kerry too)

Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou

For all and everything....

My Question: Have you received any new info on Project Blue Beam
and do you think this could be associated with the Norway event??

Cheers

CM

Curlybird

12-11-2009, 03:06 AM

Thank you for dropping in, Bill. I'm sure that you and Kerry must have a great deal on your plates with everything going on. Thank you for keeping such a fine and fascinating site going.

Has there been any more information from Benjamin Fulford or anyone else providing corroboration about the mid-January financial collapse?

Curlybird

Barron

12-11-2009, 04:37 AM

Hi Bill

Many thanks to you and Kerry indeed for spreading the truth and enlightening many people! Yours is one of the very best sites with the highest integrity that i have come across and for that i am very grateful!

Have you heard of a gent called Virgil Armstrong who used to be on the lecture circuit 12 - 15 years ago? He was personally physically present at a downed UFO around the time of the famous Roswell crash but not at the well publicised Roswell crash. he also talked of underground tunnels connecting continents with high speed magnetic/ levitating trains etc. A most amazing gent who 40 years ago was CIA the saw the light and started his spiritual journey which involved walking away from everything he had built up and living with a certain tribe of Indians in the wild for 7 years.

Last i heard he was wheelchair bound in Sedona.

If he can be tracked down (assuming he is still alive) an interview would be grand!

Many Blessings to the both of you!
Barron

angiesolo

12-11-2009, 05:00 AM

Thank you so very much Bill. I just listened to Kerry Cassidy and David Wilcock on the micro Effect Radio Network and I have to say it was the most informative and fascinating 2 hours that went by lightening FAST. Kerry and David have a rapport that is unique and entertaining as well as well orchestrated even on live radio. I hope for more in the future as I hope you had an overwhelming audience. I Facebooked the links to all my Facebook friends and you and Kerry and David are part of that growing group.

Tyler Macmillan

12-11-2009, 05:11 AM

The Operation Mind Control ebook is great - thanks for that one. It's fostered quite a bit of conversation in my circle lately.

Cheers from chilly Colorado,

Tyler

Frank Samuel

12-11-2009, 05:14 AM

Hi Bill! Thanks you guys are my heroes because you put your neck on the line every day. As a result of your sacrifice you are changing the culture of the whole planet. What do you do to relax, with your hectic schedule ?

TraineeHuman

12-11-2009, 05:43 AM

Hi Bill,

I appreciate your generosity in opening yourself to all these questions. I believe that generosity is one of the most genuine expressions of lurv/compassion. It’s certainly seems to be a major part of your character.

Do you have any hypotheses or details regarding who the gods are and what they do, and in particular what the difference is between how they operate and how the Annunaki operate, and exactly where and what the Annunaki are doing right now?

I notice that in one of his recent blog articles David Wilcock asserts that it’s the Annunaki who have kept the earth a “fear farm” throughout humanity’s history until now. On the other hand, what I consider the most healing and educational experiences in my life have been telepathic conversations/”visions” with the gods Shiva / Dionysus and with Pan / Janus, and several others – all of whom seem to normally live in sixth density or higher. I have never met a being who came anywhere close to Shiva in the depth and power of his/her positivity, nor in the accuracy of their predictions about things that would happen in my life ten years later, etc. So I find it inconceivable that these sixth-dimensional beings could be the same as the Annunaki. Is it perhaps that there are the genuine gods and then the Annunaki are fake gods (like the titans)?

taomation

12-11-2009, 06:06 AM

Hi Bill,

Fantastic decision to open up Avalon again. I believe that when you started Avalon that it was an excellent place for the like-minded to meet and share ideas, but that with the financial restrictions it lessened the impact. Of course, I understand why you felt it was necessary. But I believe that you will see an explosion of hopefully enlighten communication here, once again. Thanks once again for all of your excellent work...

Derek

12-11-2009, 06:25 AM

Will the radio show that was just done with david wilcock be archived and available for download?

Starlah

12-11-2009, 07:18 AM

Thanks so much Bill and Kerry for opening up this Forum to everybody again...it truly is a Home to remember........

Someone I'd love to see interviewed on this Forum is Dr. Rauni-Leena Luukanen Kilde who has worked as Chief Medical Officer for Lapland...www.OneForce.Be (The Human Project).
She is fascinating to listen to as she discusses mind control, the nature of fear, life issues, microchipping, and the swine flu vaccine.
Cheers!!

Aztar

12-11-2009, 10:01 AM

Hey Bill

Just finished watching your Freedom Central interview, nice to see you opening up on such a huge variety of area's. Gotta love questions like "Ok Bill who is running the planet, come on out with it" haha

Seriously though I thoroughly enjoyed a glimpse into your life database and thought process :thumb_yello:

Wulfher

12-11-2009, 10:04 AM

Hello Bill and Carry,

Thx for your great efforts into Disclosures!
Please keep up the good Work, it's most appreciated by all who seek the Truth.

best regards

Wulfher

WarriorServant

12-11-2009, 10:58 AM

Bill, are you and Kerry getting along?

Are you seeing eye to eye?

Do you envision that Kerry and yourself will be working close together in 12 months or 2 years?

panpravda

12-11-2009, 11:01 AM

Hi Bill and Kerry ...

This is just a straightforward 'thank you' for the work you have both done and continue to do. I recognise that it takes courage, tenacity, money, and many other things to operate the way you do - for the benefit of us all. I believe that I can identify with your driving force - that it's just there, without the need to be fuelled, you just know what you should do, for it is your purpose. I personally see this as true awareness and caring, and a trait of developed souls.

I recognise also that your earth-bound energy is not limitless and that you will most probably feel the need to drive yourselves far beyond reasonable limits in supplying answers and guidance to those who ask. Please think of your own needs too, for you are currently subject to human limitations and just as much in need of the real answers in the light of truth that we who follow you are searching for.

Without your presence in our lives Bill and Kerry, many of us would be much poorer off in terms of our awareness and preparedness, so thank you both from the very root of my soul, and I wish you both the energy and resources to carry on. If I ever have the chance, I will help.

Your friend - Pan.

Seth Haniel

12-11-2009, 11:07 AM

Stilll hangin' in there ;)

Bill Ryan

12-11-2009, 11:08 AM

Hello, Everyone -

A warm welcome to all the new members - and new visitors. Thanks again for all the very positive comments. This is the energy that really keeps us going. If there was no-one out there, we'd not be doing our work.

Some good questions here.... please forgive the necessary brevity, or else the reply might be a small book. Also please forgive me if I've missed anything (re-post if necessary). I've also not responded to anything that isn't actually a question - although everything you wrote is noted and appreciated.

All the quotes are abbreviated to make the questions easier to read.

I wondered if you have heard anything from Gordon Novel lately.

He's having a tough time at the moment, and is not that much further forward with his project in practical terms.

Questions:
- Is Sheldan Nidle info or disinfo?
- Will there be huge earth changes and earth evacuation, as he says?
- Will you consider interviewing him?

Not intentional disinfo (few people probably are). My knowledge of him is limited, and we've not met or corresponded with him. So there may be much of what he says that I'm not aware of.

I'd say much of his information is generally valuable (he overlaps in some respects with David Wilcock, as best I can see).

I don't anticipate any 'evacuation', and I think we've got to dig ourselves out of this planetary mess, for better or for worse. This is our responsibility, and is our 'training course' to handle it - which we've all signed up for, so to speak.

I don't think it's as simple as our getting rescued: no-one's going to get raptured or ascended out of this situation. That (in my view) is wishful thinking, a New Age equivalent of the traditional Christian view that "God will save me". (Sometimes God doesn't do that: we have to look after ourselves - and in my view this is the point.)

We wish him well but have no plans to interview him. His work - like that of many others - is valuable to wake people up and get them thinking. But don't believe anything you hear or read - including this :) You have to work quite hard out there to figure out what's real and valid - and that's part of the learning, too.

I talk about this subject quite a lot in the new video interview published by Freedom Central. Within 48 hours we'll be uploading a version in one long video on our own YouTube channel, together with an audio MP3 of the entire thing.

Recommended listening: it's really not bad, and contains a LOT of information.

The number of "V" ships that arrived on earth (29). If your start from this date: 4(April)2010 which is first month after the episodes resume, and add 29(ships) months to that you get Sept 2012, now add the sequence above (count down) and you get December 2012. Am I crazy? The funny thing though is that I was sending this info to David through his contact page and when I clicked the send button I looked at my computer clock and guess what time it was? 12:12. What do you guys think?

Personally, I don't pay much attention to gematria (seeking meaningful patterns in numbers): it seems to me, as a one-time mathematician, that it's possible to create the patterns one would like to see out of absolutely anything - a kind of numerical Rorschach test.

I don't want to rain on your parade or dismiss anything you find interesting or valuable, but for me I can't see any logical basis to explain how this would or could work.

The Illuminati DO use ritual dates and ritual numbers, but I think it's just that (ritual) - and if the force of intention and actual, real-life black magic is behind ritual, then real effects can be made to happen. This may be the point. I don't the standalone numbers have any meaning or power. But the people who use them ritualistically may do.

What can we expect for the economy next year....could you address on what Mr. Benjamin Fulford says in his blog.....is it going to be a drastic change in the world economy, including the use of hidden technilogy?

We're following this closely and probably know as much as you do. We'd not be surprised to see a sudden devaluation of the dollar sometime early next year.

We're as convinced as we can be that gold and silver are valuable assets (hold the physical metal yourself - paper and digits are just that, and are ultimately not real currency at all). In our view this can do absolutely no harm at all. One will not lose.

On a slightly different line, it can also do no harm to stock up with very basic staples and remedies (like D3, silver and MMS) to last for 30 days or so. I personally could hole up in my apartment for several weeks without once going outside and stay happy and comfortable whatever was happening.

It doesn't cost a lot of time or trouble to set that up, and this basic 'insurance' is still cheap and easy to set up. There's absolutely no reason not to do that - and even our friend David Wilcock now recommends it.

Our deepest sources say that the world is more likely to go into a controlled slide rather than a sudden catastrophe (geopolitically, economically, and regarding controls on people, travel, communication, etc).

But we really don't know for sure, and that's because the plans may not be fixed, or may be being interfered with internally and possibly externally.

When you were doing Mr. Peterson's interview and while concluding you told that it has been most fascinating interview you had done so far!! We all know that he did share some of the inside information with you all off the camera, but he was restricted on camera; so would not it be a good idea if you can share some of those information wherever feasible to do so as we really did not find much fascination in that interview.....One quick request is that...Would you like to interview "Drunvalo Melchizedek"?

Dr Peterson: watch Kerry's segment of the interview (Part 3) and note carefully his responses to the questions Kerry asks.

The very closing segment of Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJyCG_OHXGg), as well, which is hilarious. If anyone's not seen this, you must. Go to 53:00 and play. Or just go straight to the end and rewind for a minute.

Drunvalo: no plans to interview him.

Are you planning to do an interview with Lou Baldin( aka "Sleeper")?.

No plans. We communicated with him once, but he lives in the US midwest and our paths would never cross without a special (and expensive) trip.

Are you aware of and what is your and/or kerry's opinion of the works of (paris france based) Laura Knight-Jadczyk?

thirdly, are you aware of and what your and/or kerry's opinion of the works of (australia based) Dr. Amitakh Stanford?

Laura is a critic of Camelot and writes disparagingly about us on her forum. We are mystified why. We have no quarrel with her and never have had. We broadly agree with most of her views on most people and issues.

We linked to her site here, early in November (right hand sidebar):

http://projectcamelot.org/index_1_November.html

Kerry posted that, because she admires Laura's work. At the time she had no idea that Laura had written that we were disinfo, paid agents, etc etc. The link from our site to hers, posted by Kerry in all sincerity, caused some consternation and disbelief on Laura's forum.

Please note that we just don't have time to follow discussion on forums (even this one) and are often simply not aware that someone is critical of us. That doesn't affect our own opinions, or our own work.

Every now and then we suddenly discover that someone we thought was an ally (like Michael St.Clair) has turned on us. We have to be thick-skinned about these things.

Dr. Amitakh Stanford: not at all familiar. Thanks for the info - will check him out.

. Is there any way to load a file, specifically Omini Page 15?
2. Is there any way to load a few audio files?

No idea, I'm afraid - please address the mods about this.

Questions:
- Can we trust Dr. Steven Greer, or not?
- Is he sincere in wanting to bring to light Free Energy?
- Is he honest or a double agent (gatekeeper, infiltrated)?
- Does he work for a real contact with “positive ETs”, or for Project Blue Beam (faked or "negative ETs")?

Is Dr. Greer an honest person (or being), or does he have a hidden dark agenda? Does he work for the light or for the dark side?

These are just 3 examples about Dr. Greer that, IMHO, don’t add up too well:

1) Dr. Greer says all ETs are good. But in your excellent interview with him (jul-26-09) you and Kerry said that was an irresponsible statement, and I totally agree with you.

2) I witnessed the incident in the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit (jul-26-09) where some people said they were allegedly intimidated (or threatened) by Dr. Greer when they talked to him about their own Free Energy devices. I am aware it is not yet clear what really happened (Ex: if the accusations against Dr. Greer were true or just a misunderstanding), but still, that incident is kind of suspicious and I think it should be clarified.

3) Dr. Greer says he wants to help people to develop their Free Energy devices. Well, Bill, you saw the “Pantone GEET motor” in Barcelona (jul-26-09): 30% gasoline 70% water and a huge reduction of pollution. It's important to note that his inventor, Paul Pantone, has given for free the plans of his invention so that EVERYBODY can replicate it (see video bellow).

So, if Dr. Greer is sincere about wanting to promote Free Energy devices, here he has a great one: Pantone motor. Would he promote the Pantone motor (in CNN, as he said in Barcelona)? If he did, that would be a very simple, quick and excellent way for people to see for themselves this technology is real and it works. Also, the word would spread all over the world!

Paul's Comments About GEET FREE PLANS
Paul Pantone gives for free to the world his plans to build the Pantone motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXrHLNRmCOk

Detailed instructions to build the Pantone motor
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/GEET%20fuel%20procesor.pdf

But the “strange” fact is that Dr. Greer “is not” promoting such as simple demonstration of an effective Free Energy device like the Pantone GEET motor (or similar devices). Why doesn’t he do it ASAP?

Considering the above, one may wonder about these two possible “hypothesis”:

a) Is Dr. Greer sincere when he says he wants to bring to light Free Energy, or is he perhaps a double agent (gatekeeper) who is trying to identify the best Free Energy devices (to suppress them?), while at the same time he is buying time to help bringing to fruition the elite’s dark agenda?

b) Is Dr. Greer working for a “real contact” with “good ETs”, or is he working for Project Blue Beam?
”.

Wow. (long pause)

In some ways I'd rather not comment. But your questions are very important.

Let me say this:

1) Look at the promises, and then look at what has been delivered since The DIsclosure Project Press Conference in May 2001. We started Camelot ourselves in April 2006 because of the huge silence coming from the Disclosure Project.

We considered ourself to be doing the Disclosure Project's work, in a 'barefoot' sense. We could not understand at the time why more information was not being released by him.

2) Many researchers and commentators in the UFO community share our questions, but are too intimidated by Greer (or reluctant to get drawn into controversy or conflict) to make an issue out of it. He is ignored by many researchers who have good information. They know better. So they just leave him alone.

A number of researchers have approached us off-record to acknowledge our stance. Here's a direct quote to me personally from one widely-respected researcher: "There is something very wrong with that guy."

3) The three items we singled out - that he said, on record:
-- that there are no ETs who are not benevolent
-- that the US has no ongoing contact with any ET race
-- and that all abductions are military operations [MILABs])

...are absolutely false.

Why would anyone who is well-informed by the testimony of his own witnesses say that?

4) His ethics and values are open to question. Visit this page (http://www.worldviewopinion.com/blog/_archives/2009/8/26/4300096.htm) and scroll down to the very bottom. Then click on the DCMusclewolf link. It is real.

After this was leaked, within hours Greer closed his Manhunt account.

Our interview was NOT a good one. We'd love to turn back the clock and do it again. But in our radio show archives (http://216.18.197.204/audio/Project-Camelot-32k-081109_discussion_on_Steven_Greer_video.mp3) I defended Kerry's passion, and still do.

It could all have been better. We were not prepared, and were ambushed by Greer himself who suddenly declared that he wanted to be interviewed. We were caught very much on the hop. We'd like to do it again... but rather doubt if we will ever have the chance.

Our favorite response in our huge mailbag about that interview was that from Clay and Shawn Pickering (http://projectcamelot.org/index_archive_7.html#Pickering) who told us that the passion and disagreement on these core issues exactly mirrored the disagreement and passion at the highest levels of policy. We can believe it.

*********

No time for more right now, with apologies - will try to get back later in the day.

Warm wishes to all - Bill

LucidJia

12-11-2009, 12:08 PM

Wow thanks Bill!

When are you comming to New Zealand to do some Mountain climbing with me?:original: Some pretty amazing climbs here!!

Jetamus

12-11-2009, 12:33 PM

wait... so greer posted nude pics of himself proclaiming he liked rimming on a gay dating website? :shocked:

seriously, I thought i was going to look at a article he wrote or something, only to be bombarded with...that.

thank god no one else was in the room.

Steve_A

12-11-2009, 12:52 PM

Hi Jetamus,

I was a little shocked too I must admit.

Although I'm in no way supporting the chap, I'm not too sure about the link there is to be made about Greers' sexual lifestyle and his work in the Extra-Terrestrial / free energy sphere (unless the three are linked in some way).

I think when a person or people start to slur others on a personal basis, their argument is lost as it's clear that there is no other way to prove the adversary wrong on a logical basis.

Oh well, that's life I suppose.

Best regards,

Steve

wait... so greer posted nude pics of himself proclaiming he liked rimming on a gay dating website? :shocked:

seriously, I thought i was going to look at a article he wrote or something, only to be bombarded with...that.

thank god no one else was in the room.

Unified Serenity

12-11-2009, 12:53 PM

4) His ethics and values are open to question. Visit this page (http://www.worldviewopinion.com/blog/_archives/2009/8/26/4300096.htm) and scroll down to the very bottom. Then click on the DCMusclewolf link. It is real.

After this was leaked, within hours Greer closed his Manhunt account.

Warm wishes to all - Bill

I went to the link you posted Bill, and I did not see anything on DCMusclewolf. Sooooo.... I did a google search and found a pdf file of dcmusclewolf which showed a male nude saying what he was into. Was this what you were referring to?

I noted he states his status is negative... which I know refers to HIV, but could it also be his energy? I am not a Greer fan, and thought the interview revealed a lot about Greer. Thanks for all the work you do.

I hope you are not anti-gay as if that says something about ones spirituality or something. I just don't like Greer or the lack of real disclosure. I think his focus on positive is fine, but it's ludicrous to say there are no negative ET's and that all abductions are MILAB.

My best to you and Kerry. Keep the powder dry so to speak.

Unified Serenity

IMU

12-11-2009, 01:10 PM

WarriorServant

12-11-2009, 01:15 PM

Well... that Greer Manhunt page really shocked me! I've always had a strong doubt about his sexuality but this really blew me away... I'm NOT homophobic at all but this really questions his credibility, motifs and intentions on the level of his public work. This may not have any effect to Disclosure but certainly to his personal life. I kinda liked him and still don't know what to make of this whole thing... Wow. At least he doen't like drugs which is respectable in itself... :naughty:

Greer's efforts serve two purposes.

1). He is to capture the attention of anyone who believes that UFO's and aliens exist. He is to collect donations from them (which prevents donations to going to other, more sincere organizations). He is to make sure that any REAL "evidence" doesn't see the light of day. He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters.

2). He is to capture the attention of anyone trying to invent, find, or otherwise finance "free energy". He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters also -- and to make sure free energy doesn't become a reality.

Dr Greer is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He is not sincere. He is a government operative. You'd all do well to steer WELL clear of him an d his efforts and if he requests information from you (AND HE WILL, IF HE THINKS YOU'VE GOT SOME), do NOT give it to him. Be careful of anyone who is tied to or close with Greer also, because what ever conversations you have with them will NOT be confidential.

You've been warned.

oxiigen

12-11-2009, 01:24 PM

Hi Bill,

It took me a while to find something important, but important in a way that is not important only for me, but for a humanity as a whole. That's more tricky to find! :) Yes, it took me a few days... But I think I got something finally! \o/ :)

Marko Rodin said: "I found the language of God. I found the perfection mathematically. I claim that I discovered the first linear non-banding above the known elements. The Superparticle."

So, my question is actually a wish: Bill, Please talk with Marko Rodin! Your conversation with Marko is really something that I (& many others I believe) would LOVE to experience!

& Thank you for your existence Bill!

P.S., I will copy part of this also in my placeholder on a front page... :)

IMU

12-11-2009, 01:34 PM

Greer's efforts serve two purposes.

1). He is to capture the attention of anyone who believes that UFO's and aliens exist. He is to collect donations from them (which prevents donations to going to other, more sincere organizations). He is to make sure that any REAL "evidence" doesn't see the light of day. He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters.

2). He is to capture the attention of anyone trying to invent, find, or otherwise finance "free energy". He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters also -- and to make sure free energy doesn't become a reality.

Dr Greer is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He is not sincere. He is a government operative. You'd all do well to steer WELL clear of him an d his efforts and if he requests information from you (AND HE WILL, IF HE THINKS YOU'VE GOT SOME), do NOT give it to him. Be careful of anyone who is tied to or close with Greer also, because what ever conversations you have with them will NOT be confidential.

You've been warned.

I wonder what the reactions are from guys who supported him wholeheartedly like Bassett and others... I personally like Bassett a lot!

jaby

12-11-2009, 01:49 PM

Greer's efforts serve two purposes.

1). He is to capture the attention of anyone who believes that UFO's and aliens exist. He is to collect donations from them (which prevents donations to going to other, more sincere organizations). He is to make sure that any REAL "evidence" doesn't see the light of day. He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters.

2). He is to capture the attention of anyone trying to invent, find, or otherwise finance "free energy". He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters also -- and to make sure free energy doesn't become a reality.

Dr Greer is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He is not sincere. He is a government operative. You'd all do well to steer WELL clear of him an d his efforts and if he requests information from you (AND HE WILL, IF HE THINKS YOU'VE GOT SOME), do NOT give it to him. Be careful of anyone who is tied to or close with Greer also, because what ever conversations you have with them will NOT be confidential.

You've been warned.

Give me one good reason why anyone here should believe a single word that you say....

Your speculations...are just that. YOUR speculations.

Unless you have anything a little more concrete than your own opinions to offer....?

WarriorServant

12-11-2009, 01:56 PM

I wonder what the reactions are from guys who supported him wholeheartedly like Bassett and others... I personally like Bassett a lot!

Do not trust Greer or anyone closely/intricately associated with him.

Sarahmay

12-11-2009, 02:06 PM

Thanks for the archive of Kerry's radio show!

Seashore

12-11-2009, 02:40 PM

My question is about disinformation.

It seems the disinformation is getting worse, now we are finding infighting even within the Truth movement. Many times going so far as name dropping, as in the case of Dr Deagle and True Ott saying the Jane Burgermeister is a disinfo agent. I believed this until I watched the video interview you did with Jane, which was outstanding, btw.

How do you and Kerry reconcile this when you know and have befriended so many of the same people who end up being accused of being disinfo agents?

This is a vast question and I can only really touch on a proper reply.

We try to remain even handed at all times. We seek to remain positive and not assume bad motives of people. There ARE agents in the mix, of course, but probably far fewer than most might believe. Why spend money deploying agents into the alternative media to cause confusion and conflict when we sabotage ourselves and each other really well on our own anyway?

The way we work (if possible) is this. If A attacks B, and we know and trust both parties, then we don't take sides except to clarify positive aspects. We may try to mediate behind the scenes, but this does not always work. (It's possible to get burned that way.)

Re Jane Burgermeister, she is exactly who she says she is and I know her personally. She is human, as are you and I, and there's no-one in this entire movement who has not made mistakes or had a bad day. Meanwhile, Bill Deagle is a good man - see my earlier response about him on page 1 here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=195329&postcount=23

We were concerned that Deagle might also take sides against us, but he has not. Great credit to him for also being even-handed and not mixing things up.

There are no bad guys here: just human misunderstandings and hurt emotions. This happens a lot, as the heat increases in the kitchen (as it is everywhere).

I feel that this issue is still important.

Dr Deagle is a close associate of Dr A True Ott. Both men are spearheading an effort to educate the public about the dangers of vaccines and about the agenda of the New World Order controllers regarding the use of pandemic flu/fear mongering about pandemic flu to achieve their objectives.

Please consider the possible link between Jane Burgermeister and Sorcha Faal/Zionist interests as outlined in the following post, which is from the "Sorcha Faal? (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17894)" thread:

Sorcha Faal was the topic of discussion on Dr A True Ott's "The Story Behind the Story" (http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=5) on December 8, 2009.

The archives are not free so I can not link to the radio show.

Here is a copy and paste of the blurb that comes from the members' section:
_______________________________________________

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2009

Guest: Ken Adachi -- www.educate-yourself.org. The show's topic: Who the Heck is "Sorcha Faal" aka David Booth -- is this a Tavistock Institute organization and a Jewish Zionist front for massive disinformation?? The ties to the City of London, Lord Rothschild, and John Wilkes Booth are explored.
_______________________________________________

Dr Ott and Ken talked about David Booth and a connection to John Wilkes Booth, as well as a Booth family trust at the City of London - a Rothschild connection. They talked about the technique of the Tavistock Institute of putting out 65 - 95% truth as a way of sucking people in, and a thing to remember to watch out for is no solutions being offered and encouraging engaging in violent acts.

They reviewed the assertion that the Illuminati/Zionists fomented both the French and Bolshevik Revolutions because they extract power that way.

They talked about The Radical Press (http://www.radicalpress.com/) having uncovered Sorcha Faal and the repetition of the Holocaust theme and playing the anti-Semite card.

Dr Ott talked about his experience with Jane Burgermeister which began in June when he guest-hosted Barbara Jean's radio program and had Jane on as a guest. Dr Ott tried to discuss big pharma as it relates to the Zionist angle, but Jane immediately became angry and said she did not want to appear to be a Nazi!

Later Jane expressed great excitement about the possibility of a major celebrity agreeing to fund their movement with $ 1/2 million. While this was going on Dr Ott began having problems getting in touch with Jane.

Next thing to happen was Sorcha Faal reported that Michael Jackson was assasinted by the CIA because Jackson funded Jane Burgermeister. And I believe he said Sorcha Faal extolled the virtues of Jane Burgermeister.

He also said Jane verbally attacked Drew Raines of the Marines Disposition radio show (http://www.amd.elequity.com/).

Dr Ott said that it later came out that Jane announced it was Michael Jackson she was talking about regarding the celebrity. I have in my notes Drew Raines and Elizabeth Book for this - I'm not sure where Jane evidently said this.

Dr Ott said that right after Michael Jackson's death Jane started asking for donations on a snazzy website.

He also mentioned a connection to the Bush estate at Kennebunkport, Maine - I believe he said Jane's website has a connection to it. Maybe someone can verify this...

IMU

12-11-2009, 02:48 PM

Do not trust Greer or anyone closely/intricately associated with him.

And how do you know that? What is your source?

IMU

12-11-2009, 03:03 PM

And anyway, who found that page about Greer on a gay-finder site? How can someone find these things? How?

apple

12-11-2009, 03:40 PM

Hi Bill:

Many thanks for your and Kerry's hard work to wake people up. Studied everything on your website and learned a lot.

Heard Kerry mention "remote influencing". And have been wondering how is it possible that many truth movements just when they are about to reach a climax, one person or a group of person suddenly begin to attack another person or persons in the same movement and the attack ends up undermining everything that had been achieved. Have witnessed this so many times that I am reluctant to believe that these are merely coincidences.

Could you or Kerry perhaps consider talking about this in more detail, perhaps on a radio show or so?

IRISH-MYSTIC

12-11-2009, 03:47 PM

Hi Bill from Ireland! Firstly thanks to you and Kerry for your incredible work ...

Secondly, I suffer from rather bad agorophobia. (Its been a rough life!) I have trawled the self-help literature looking for answers over the past 16years, but to no avail. I was wondering if there is anything in the work of LRON that might be of help to healing such a problem?

I have read some LRON already and was amazed at how precise and concise his writing style. From what I read he did seem to be a man of knowledge?

Anyway, take care and if you're ever in Ireland give me a shout ...

Best wishes, God is Love,

Samuel

migp

12-11-2009, 03:52 PM

Hil,

I do not know anything about maths, but at first glance it seems to me that this scientist has a similar theory that MR. Nassim Haramein from the Resonance Project.

viking

12-11-2009, 04:13 PM

Steve_A

12-11-2009, 04:25 PM

viking - Do we really care?

Surely this can't be true!!! :shocked:

How do we know if these piccies are of him?

viking

Seashore

12-11-2009, 04:27 PM

I feel that this issue is still important.

Dr Deagle is a close associate of Dr A True Ott. Both men are spearheading an effort to educate the public about the dangers of vaccines and about the agenda of the New World Order controllers regarding the use of pandemic flu/fear mongering about pandemic flu to achieve their objectives.

Please consider the possible link between Jane Burgermeister and Sorcha Faal/Zionist interests as outlined in the following post, which is from the "Sorcha Faal? (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17894)" thread:

I have looked further through my notes concerning Jane Burgermeister.

Dr Deagle's Nutrimedical Report on September 18, 2009, the 2nd Hour, covered this subject. The guests were Alex Studer, who is on Dr Deagle's team as a blogger and a person who files petitions for injunction; JoAnne Cremer, who was the person who spearheaded a Facebook group in support of Jane; and Dr Ott.

The important things that were said are:

The legal team Jane claimed to have turned out to be one person who is not an attorney.
The person accepted $6000 from Elizabeth Book for whatever it was he filed.
On July 24, Jane put out a call advocating disruption and the destruction of property related to NLE 09.
Jane issued 5 or 6 emails to Joanne regarding the use of "gorilla warfare."
Dr Ott researched this and noted that "How to Instill Gorilla Warfare" was written in the 80's and given to the Contra rebels; it was written by Stubblebine, who is one of Jane's supporters.
Joanne was asked to solicit money from Facebook group members, which had become international and numbered 7,000 people.
After Joanne realized she had to terminate her support for Jane and announced this, Jane accused her of association with mass murderers, pedophiles, satanists, etc.

This information appears between 5:40 - 35:40. Again, the correct archive is September 18, 2009, 2nd Hour:

http://www.gcnlive.com/archive.php?program=nutrimedical

viking

12-11-2009, 04:50 PM

viking - Do we really care?

Yes ...I do, I have a lot of respect for Greer and would like to know if he is presenting himself in a different light or he is hiding behind a mask so to speak... Don't get me wrong I am not homophobic, but if the pics are for real it puts him in a slightly Different light!!

Viking

Moxie

12-11-2009, 05:51 PM

It's wonderful of you to stop by.

What are your thoughts and/or recommendations for shielding ones self over and above contact w/one's higher self, oversoul & godmind/consciousness?

I tend to steer clear of beliefs, in a certain god or archangels etc... it would be good to hear your thoughts on this matter as I am very interested in Ashayana Deane's work, very interested. And thank you very much for your time.

THEWATCHER

12-11-2009, 05:57 PM

Do not trust Greer or anyone closely/intricately associated with him.

As one of Dr Greer's Disclosure Project Witnesses, AND the one individual to bring PLFs to the attention of the World I take offense at that statement. So we all are untrustworthy?

eleni

12-11-2009, 06:30 PM

:naughty: Hee hee Bill- I told you the pics of Greer would be *outed* to the public!

I've heard some *inside* info about Greer......pertaining to a disclosure regarding a faction of the reptilians.......he renigged on it......he was supposed to provide disclosure on their anatomy, feeding habits, etc; he did not.

I would like to write what happened next but I think it would sound very outlandish.....

Edited to say- anyone with a sixth sense must have known Greer was gay......please note I have zero against lifestyle choice.......I don't care who bonks whom......

WarriorServant

12-11-2009, 06:32 PM

As one of Dr Greer's Disclosure Project Witnesses, AND the one individual to bring PLFs to the attention of the World I take offense at that statement. So we all are untrustworthy?

Are you intricately associated with him?

You tell me.

Bobbie

12-11-2009, 06:45 PM

You're worried about sounding outlandish on this forum????????? :mfr_lol: :roll1: I don't think there is anything that would surprise many of us at this point.

Re Greer - I wanted to like him but something kept gnawing at me that something wasn't adding up here.... I did notice a super truck load of agrandizement from the very beginning. He did a lot of :trumpet: My father in law used to say - "the more you blow your own horn, the sourer the notes get"

:naughty:
I would like to write what happened next but I think it would sound very outlandish.....

.....

eleni

12-11-2009, 06:50 PM

Maybe the other person who knows will post it. I would sound like a gossip.

waitinginthewings

12-11-2009, 06:54 PM

Phtha

12-11-2009, 06:55 PM

Hey no teasing.. Out with it I say! :tongue2::roll1:

Btw I thought greer was married with kids? I thought that is what he said in one of these interviews I watched. Otherwise yes he stuck me as being a little gay.

Maybe the other person who knows will post it. I would sound like a gossip.

Bobbie

12-11-2009, 07:04 PM

Great idea and since when is TRUTH gossip....especially if it will keep another person from being sucked into something that could be potentially harmful.Eleni: if you have some knowledge that help us all get to the bottom of this matter, it would be greatly appreciated, but may I suggest a new thread, as this is Bill's thread for his replies.

pineal-pilot-in merkabah

12-11-2009, 07:18 PM

mods can we start a new greer thread and move some of the posts over there. im sure bill isnt interested to reply to questions concerning wether greer is a buftee or not ( begby, trainspotting):lmfao:

robyn

12-11-2009, 07:32 PM

Geez, why would anyone care about anyone else's sexual orientation and why would Greer's matter to anyone? It's a non-issue in my estimation. And how does anyone know that nude pics are his for sure? They could be photoshopped or posted by someone else pretending to be him.

His work and his words relating to disclosure and free energy are what we should focus on, not his sex life. It's mere titilation and a distraction.

I know how difficult for homosexuals to 'come out', I have close friends and family that are gay, esp those in the public spotlight. And consider also that it opens him to blackmail if he is gay. Something else to consider.

It seems there are discrepencies in his work and words, this should be the focus and this is what the interview with Bill and Kerry brought to the light more than anyone else has done. I would really like to see another interview with Bill and Kerry as he was a little too vague and evasive on some of his answers. Hopefully, he will agree to another interview in the near future with B and K. Any plans Bill?

Cheers,
robyn

eleni

12-11-2009, 07:59 PM

Anyone wonder why Greer says there's no bad ET's? Read between the lines. Enough said.

babylon4truth

12-11-2009, 08:12 PM

babylon4truth

12-11-2009, 08:24 PM

Dr Pete Peterson tells us he has healing devices..........and you can"t get him on the phone?? hmmm don"t sound to good to me

people need help now, so come on Dr Peterson show your hand, or maybe just a load of old bull a bill??

Daft Ada

12-11-2009, 08:28 PM

Thank you babylon4truth, very kind. I was hoping for a reply from Bill and was a bit worried that my post had been lost in all the melee about Greer, but maybe you have re vitalised it :original:.

My six peneth on Dr Greer, I don't see that whatever the guy enjoys by way of sexual pleasure, providing it is legal, has any bearing whatsoever on his integrity regarding aliens and ufo's.
No I don't like the guy. I agree with Bill on every point about what Dr Greer said, but as far as I am concerned his private sexual life is exactly that. I bet there are a few on here that are throwing stones that would not like to have their private lives looked at too closely. I hate this aspect of humanity, like pack animals. :mad3:
Lets keep to the facts about his statements and achievments, I think Bill hit the nail on the head, years have gone by and he appears to have done very little, and achieved very little therefore in my opinion he is a spent force.

TempestGarden

12-11-2009, 10:16 PM

4) His ethics and values are open to question. Visit this page (http://www.worldviewopinion.com/blog/_archives/2009/8/26/4300096.htm) and scroll down to the very bottom. Then click on the DCMusclewolf link. It is real.

After this was leaked, within hours Greer closed his Manhunt account.

Bill,

I was very shocked to say the least when I read this and found out that Dr. Greer has a Manhunt account. Let me start this by first stating that I am not a fan of Dr. Greer and personally what I have seen from him has led me to believe that he is very arrogant and intolerant of others that don't share his views.

That being said, I have to say that I am a little disappointed in this statement. Let me also preface this by saying that I am a gay man and I fully believe and support that you are entitled to your own opinion and view of this world. Upon reading what you wrote, you are seemingly inferring that someone that is homosexual/bisexual somehow has "ethics and values [that] are open to question". It's possible that you are referring to something else, but if you are not, I couldn't disagree with you more. Sexuality and/or sexual orientation has nothing to do with ethics or morality in any way, shape or form. That is religion talking.

Again, you are more than entitled to your own opinion, but I would just like you to know that I am a very big fan of yours and when I read this I have to be real honest... I was very disappointed that you would say something like this. If I misunderstood what you meant, then I apologize. It just reads as though you are stating what I explained above.

max

12-11-2009, 10:28 PM

Saludos a todos, en primer lugar perdonar que no me exprese en ingles.
Hace solo un par de meses que conozco la gran labor de Proyecto Camelot y Avalon, me queda muchísimo material que examinar, hay tanto y tan excelente.
Daros las gracias por configurar un lugar donde encontrarnos personas afines; alivia el Alma.
Mi pregunta:
¿Tienen conocimientos sobre contactados que como prueba se les dejase marcas en el cuerpo? En el caso de que si, ¿que estas durasen escasas horas?
Sé que supuestos abducidos poseen de formas diversas, muchas de ellas permanentes en su piel.
Gracias de antemano, es muy importante encontrar esta información.
Pido de nuevo disculpa por no expresarme en ingles.

Kinsuemei2

12-11-2009, 10:34 PM

Yes Eleni is right, Greer had a job to do, according to my sources and instead of doing the job for the reps, the same reps that Clay and Shawn speak of in my opinion, he basically sold them a dream that he would be able to buffer the way for the government and people so that the reps could move freely amongst the populas and I told this to Eleni before the Clay and Shawn audio was ever released.
Well Greer screwed them and basically sold the information down the road, and I do not think he has yet been forgiven, the reason why he has a armed entourage is not due to fear of human assassination, seriously, the biggest contribution is the free energy, which of course they have but are trying to "negotiate" a way for to to be distributed, in a controlled environment.

I may no nothing about anything in this world but when it comes to these specific beings I happen to have a life time of information you could say, and believe it or not I really do not care.

This leads me into a question for Bill:

Bill do you think that some MKUltra projects were also set up by ET's because this is where my research has lead me quite painfully, I would very much appreciate your feedback, of course my Skype name is Brimstone944 and speak to Kerry on the regular.

THEWATCHER

12-11-2009, 10:34 PM

Are you intricately associated with him?

You tell me.

nope, just one of his witnesses, and every time he appears at a venue he rattles on about PLFs and the 12 people or so he has whom worked with these issues. ME being the first to do so.

Kinsuemei2

12-11-2009, 10:38 PM

Max Oye mi amigo que he oído hacer las dos marcas durar unas cuantas horas, pero algunas de las experiencias dejan marcas permanentes y cicatrices.

Phtha

12-11-2009, 10:49 PM

Since this gay thing has come up more then once in this thread now I thought I would add something to it.

First I want to say that I do not lower or raise anyone below or above myself based on sexual orientation, or anything else for that matter. To each his own and I truly respect anyone's personal lives or choices. That being said I expect what I say next will still offend people.

It is my belief that homo sexuality is only an effect of an unbalanced dichotomy between the feminine and masculine energies of the Universe. It is just one sign that shows us how unbalanced things have become. If every animal life form on the planet were suddenly converted to homo sexuality then within 120 years there would be no more life, thus it is of a destructive nature. Which is fine, destruction is merely a part of creation. But I bring this up only because I think it is a little thought about aspect of same sex relationships. I think it is just the Universes way of telling us how we really need to work on balancing all of the energies that constantly surround us.

That being said, I have to say that I am a little disappointed in this statement. Let me also preface this by saying that I am a gay man and I fully believe and support that you are entitled to your own opinion and view of this world. Upon reading what you wrote, you are seemingly inferring that someone that is homosexual/bisexual somehow has "ethics and values [that] are open to question". It's possible that you are referring to something else, but if you are not, I couldn't disagree with you more. Sexuality and/or sexual orientation has nothing to do with ethics or morality in any way, shape or form. That is religion talking.

max

12-11-2009, 10:50 PM

Kinsuemei2 gracias por tu respuesta, sí, tengo información y he visto algunas marcas pero en abducidos.
Personalmente hago diferencia entre abducidos y contactados, pues aunque en ocasiones se da las dos experiencias en una misma persona no suele ser siempre así (espero saber explicarme) por eso la necesidad de la información para poder esclarecer un caso.
Muchísimas gracias por tu amabilidad.
:original:

THEWATCHER

12-11-2009, 10:55 PM

Would it not be ethical to keep all posts in English, private comms in other languages fine but just in case someone might think they are being talked about:original:

Malletzky

12-11-2009, 10:58 PM

Hi Max, please consider of using google tranlsation for posting in english.

http://translate.google.com/#

By the way, wellcome on the forum...

malletzky

Greetings to all, first forgive me not express in English.
Just a couple of months I know the great work of Project Camelot and Avalon, I have a lot of material to examine, there's so much and so excellent.
Thank you for setting up a place to meet like-minded people and soothes the soul.
My question:
Do you have knowledge as evidence will be contacted to let them marks on the body? In the case if, what these would last a few hours?
I know that alleged abductees have in various ways, many of which are permanent on your skin.
Thanks in advance, it is very important to find this information.
I ask again apologize for not writing in English.

Saludos a todos, en primer lugar perdonar que no me exprese en ingles.
Hace solo un par de meses que conozco la gran labor de Proyecto Camelot y Avalon, me queda muchísimo material que examinar, hay tanto y tan excelente.
Daros las gracias por configurar un lugar donde encontrarnos personas afines; alivia el Alma.
Mi pregunta:
¿Tienen conocimientos sobre contactados que como prueba se les dejase marcas en el cuerpo? En el caso de que si, ¿que estas durasen escasas horas?
Sé que supuestos abducidos poseen de formas diversas, muchas de ellas permanentes en su piel.
Gracias de antemano, es muy importante encontrar esta información.
Pido de nuevo disculpa por no expresarme en ingles.

max

12-11-2009, 11:04 PM

unlimited mind

12-11-2009, 11:04 PM

As best we understand, Clif High set a PI [Private Investigator] on Deagle's bank account without Deagle's knowledge or consent, with an instruction to look for something that could be used against him.

The PI found some income that he could not account for and Clif therefore assumed that he must be a paid agent.

It's an understatement to say that this is very dumb of Clif, who is normally a bright guy.

is there proof of this Bill? who is this 'we' that you heard this from...otherwise, all of it is more hearsay. track records speak for themselves, and clif's interpretation of the linguistic data, as far as being considered a 'positive hit', is pretty long, especially when compared to the info that Deagle has put out.

clif often speaks of karma, and what he will and will not do based on the repercussions of said karma, and this statement you made does not feel within Clif's character, when compared to the info clif has shared about himself.

have you called and asked clif about this? did you follow thru and investigate this further yourself or just go with what this 'WE' said. why would clif feel the need to prove Deagle one way or the other anyhow? makes no sense.

looking forward to having more info on this. thanks Bill..........

Malletzky

12-11-2009, 11:07 PM

Steve_A

12-11-2009, 11:10 PM

Hi THEWATCHER,

There are people in this forum who find it difficult to express themselves in English, as stated by Max in his first post. Asking him to send a message in English is like me asking you to learn Spanish today to read his post.

As the forum is international, I'm sure that no-one really minds some posts in other languages. Luckily I understand Spanish, Portuguese, French, German and Italian to read so for me it's not too much of a problem to understand. As a moderator, if I thought somebody was attacking, even in a foreign language, I would edit where necessary, so you can be rest assured, at least by this moderator, your concerns are not necessary.

Besides, I think it adds a little culture to the forum.

Best regards,

Steve

Would it not be ethical to keep all posts in English, private comms in other languages fine but just in case someone might think they are being talked about:original:

THEWATCHER

12-11-2009, 11:10 PM

No se inglés, no es por falta de ética THEWATCHER, por eso he pedido disculpa, pero si le molesta no ha sido mi intención.
No sabía que el foro solo era para legua inglesa, esperaba en un lugar que se supone de mente abierta también lo fuese de corazón.
Lo siento y disculpen.

Not English, not for lack of ethics THEWATCHER, so I apologized, but if it bothers you is not my intention.
I did not know that the forum was only for English league, was waiting in a place that is supposed to be so open-minded heart.
I'm sorry and apologize.

The translator is to translate inperfecto.
No worries on my part, simply think some here might be anxious to see non English postings so cannot guage what is being said. The forum is for everyone, the greatness of multicultural at its best. Just not everyone has a second or third language. No need for apologies. Welcome to Avalon and Camelot

THEWATCHER

12-11-2009, 11:13 PM

Hi THEWATCHER,

There are people in this forum who find it difficult to express themselves in English, as stated by Max in his first post. Asking him to send a message in English is like me asking you to learn Spanish today to read his post.

As the forum is international, I'm sure that no-one really minds some posts in other languages. Luckily I understand Spanish, Portuguese, French, German and Italian to read so for me it's not too much of a problem to understand. As a moderator, if I thought somebody was attacking, even in a foreign language, I would edit where necessary, so you can be rest assured, at least by this moderator, your concerns are not necessary.

Besides, I think it adds a little culture to the forum.

Best regards,

Steve

Hi Steve, well not everyone here I guess has your abilities with many different languages. Not a concern, just a friendly observation.

Steve_A

12-11-2009, 11:21 PM

Hola max,

Usted no tiene nada para pedir perdón. Todos aqui pensamos igualmente, soló las palabras son diferentes. :)

Hasta pronto,

Steve

No se inglés, no es por falta de ética THEWATCHER, por eso he pedido disculpa, pero si le molesta no ha sido mi intención.
No sabía que el foro solo era para legua inglesa, esperaba en un lugar que se supone de mente abierta también lo fuese de corazón.
Lo siento y disculpen.

Not English, not for lack of ethics THEWATCHER, so I apologized, but if it bothers you is not my intention.
I did not know that the forum was only for English league, was waiting in a place that is supposed to be so open-minded heart.
I'm sorry and apologize.

The translator is to translate inperfecto.

Shambala2012

12-11-2009, 11:22 PM

Hey Bill,

This question is somewhat inconsequential but it came up in the discussion that you and Kerry had with the Pickering brothers. You mentioned off-hand that you had recently been given a description of what the Anunnaki looked like. I'm interested to find out what you have been told because in my experience there is quite a lot of conflicting information in this area. For instance, Icke equates them with a possible reptilian appearance (if not without true bodily form due to an inter-dimensional constitution); some of the Pleiadian material of Hand Clow I believe mentions that they may look like giant robotic lizards; as you will recall, Wilcock stated that they look like giant 'super heroes' (basically quite human-looking in elaborate costuming); and others have stated that they resemble our images of the Greek gods, etc. I have even read material that equated the term Anunnaki with the Easter Island visages and even with the Grays (with which I truly disagree). Anyway, what's your take on it?

Thanks

Shambala2012

Unified Serenity

12-12-2009, 12:14 AM

Bill,

That being said, I have to say that I am a little disappointed in this statement. Let me also preface this by saying that I am a gay man and I fully believe and support that you are entitled to your own opinion and view of this world. Upon reading what you wrote, you are seemingly inferring that someone that is homosexual/bisexual somehow has "ethics and values [that] are open to question". It's possible that you are referring to something else, but if you are not, I couldn't disagree with you more. Sexuality and/or sexual orientation has nothing to do with ethics or morality in any way, shape or form. That is religion talking.

Again, you are more than entitled to your own opinion, but I would just like you to know that I am a very big fan of yours and when I read this I have to be real honest... I was very disappointed that you would say something like this. If I misunderstood what you meant, then I apologize. It just reads as though you are stating what I explained above.

That was the point of my looking as to what the DCMusclewolf had to do with anything and why I asked Bill if he had issues with Greer being gay. I have no issues with one's lifestyle as straight, gay, bi, or trans. I would like to know why Bill threw that into the mix and the link was not on that page so I had to look it up on Google to find the Manhunt pdf page.

US

Bobbie

12-12-2009, 12:25 AM

I don't think the request was made as a result of prejudice against Spanish but we, the majority of us, only read and speak English. We would like to hear your comments but simply cannot read Spanish. In otherwords, we can't hear you because we don't understand the language. It is not personal and I do not mean to offend you at all but if you do not want us to know what you are saying then please continue in Spanish. We can always use a translator ourselves if we want to understand what you are saying. :wink2:
No se inglés, no es por falta de ética THEWATCHER, por eso he pedido disculpa, pero si le molesta no ha sido mi intención.
No sabía que el foro solo era para legua inglesa, esperaba en un lugar que se supone de mente abierta también lo fuese de corazón.
Lo siento y disculpen.

Not English, not for lack of ethics THEWATCHER, so I apologized, but if it bothers you is not my intention.
I did not know that the forum was only for English league, was waiting in a place that is supposed to be so open-minded heart.
I'm sorry and apologize.

The translator is to translate inperfecto.

WarriorServant

12-12-2009, 12:29 AM

If you really want to know what Spanish text says, you can use this:

http://translate.google.com/#es|en

It will give you a rough idea.

No se inglés, no es por falta de ética THEWATCHER, por eso he pedido disculpa, pero si le molesta no ha sido mi intención.
No sabía que el foro solo era para legua inglesa, esperaba en un lugar que se supone de mente abierta también lo fuese de corazón.
Lo siento y disculpen.

Translates to:

Not English, not for lack of ethics THEWATCHER, so I apologized, but if it bothers you is not my intention.
I did not know that the forum was only for English league, was waiting in a place that is supposed to be so open-minded heart.
I'm sorry and apologize.

akopij

12-12-2009, 02:22 AM

hello everyone, Bill and Kerry
This post will untertain those who read the dane tops interview then want to learn more of Bill's background and about how scientology and its progeniture function to this day. I copy it because it's very interesting, not because I want to blame anyone. For what I ve read, it looks like scientology is a modern day update of the ancient initiatic cults, with levels, grades and promised salvation. Be sure my intention is not to diregard any of this, as Dane says, we all have our ladder of truth.

http://scientology.wikia.com/wiki/Rons_Org

The Establishment of the Ron’s Orgs

Ron’s Org, as we know it today, had its inception on 12 October, 1984, when Bill Robertson, known among his friends as Captain Bill or CBR, held a meeting near Frankfurt, Germany, to announce the existence of a new Free Zone delivery unit that promised to deliver Standard Tech. A transcript of CBR’s presentation is found in Tech Briefing 1. The name “Ron’s Org" was announced in a follow-up meeting two weeks later (Tech Briefing 2), an acronym for “Ron’s Organisation and Network for Standard Tech”.

From the start, CBR promised Standard Tech and delivered standardly to OT 3. Meanwhile, he and a colleague, Ulrich Kramer, began to research how it was that NOTs (OT 7) seemed to be such an “endless” level, sometimes running to many thousands of hours without a stable EP. The story of this research is told in Admin Briefing 1. CBR and Kramer studied all that was known about the Tech to that point, checked each other out for a month and a half, and then began co-auditing on the last levels which they knew had come from LRH: NOTs. They discovered the reason why no-one had truly progressed beyond this level, and a new level which included NOTs and also transcended it – all using LRH basics – was called first Super-NOTs, later Excalibur, or OT 8.

Having completed Excalibur and having obtained a major, stable EP, CBR found that the Bridge thereafter flowed relatively easily. Using standard C/Sing technology, the remaining levels were researched and developed in fairly quick progression. By the time of Admin Briefing 1 (25 January 1987), CBR had reached OT 16 and developed the Games Master Course, a major level – not “just” a course. Eight months later, in Admin Briefing 2 (29 August 1987), CBR announced the development of further levels (the Games Series Course, the Games Basics Course, and four Source Operations Levels), the latter going right to the heart of what it is to be operating as a self-determined Source. A little later again, he developed VAST (“Viable Application for Source Training”) and VAST Plus, and that completed the Bridge. (More about the OT levels in the Ron's Orgs and in the Church of Scientology can be found in the article about OT levels).

Meanwhile, the Ron’s Orgs expanded and flourished, and soon after completing a videotaped series of lectures and seminars in 1990 – Your Dynamics in the Nineties, Improving Conditions in Life, Logic in Life (about the Data Series), Body Org Basics, and Exchange and Finance – CBR died in May 1991. The Ron’s Orgs themselves were largely unaffected, as they were not hierarchically organised – each Ron’s Org being a self-sufficient organisation in itself which stayed in close communication with the other Ron’s Orgs: a true network that was the forerunner of much business corporate structure in subsequent years.

After various periods of shake-down and reorganisation, the Ron’s Orgs continued to prosper and the most recent rapid expansion has occurred in Russia. The Ron’s Orgs now operate under the auspices of the Ron’s Org Committee, chaired by Max Hauri, Switzerland. Max and his wife Erica – Snr C/S – were invited to Russia in the late 1990s to deliver a few basic courses and some lower Bridge standard auditing. At the time of writing this article – January 2006 – there are some 2,000 people on Ron’s Org lines in Russia and there are over a dozen Ron’s Orgs in Moscow alone. The area continues to thrive and expand rapidly and the stats are high, with numerous OT 16 completions (one of the major levels of the Bridge) and fully trained C/Ses.

As per the landmark bulletin Keeping Scientology Working, the Ron’s Orgs set a very high importance on training and the definition of a Ron’s Org includes the criterion that it must have a courseroom; an auditor or C/S delivering standard tech, no matter towhat level, is known as a Ron’s Org Field Auditor if no courseroom facilities are present.

Every Ron’s Org courseroom employs only original LRH materials; nothing is altered or rewritten. Ron’s Org courserooms deliver every essential course such as the HQS, Hard TRs, Student Hat, Method 1, Dianetics, Objectives, Grades, LXs, HRD, SHSBC, and all reviews such as the PTS RD, SP RD, Int RD, Confessionals, False Purpose RD and many others.

In auditing, major stress is laid on the standard that every auditing action, as laid out on the bridge from 1976, is done thoroughly and to its full EP. “Quickying” is rightly recognised and regarded as a false economy which can slow or even damage cases in the long run. It is never condoned or supported.

For everyone in the Ron’s Orgs, the Source of the Tech is LRH, not CBR. CBR would always point out that he did not consider himself to be source of anything, and was simply applying LRH basics standardly and logically to the next levels beyond those developed in the Church of Scientology at the time LRH was still alive. CBR would acknowledge LRH at the end of every lecture, seminar or briefing that he gave, and considered himself merely as having duplicated what LRH wanted and was simply continuing to carry the torch forward.

While there is no doubt that – like LRH – CBR was an extraordinary and exceptionally powerful man, those on the Ron’s Org Bridge are in full agreement with his own modest view and maintain that the power of the “Upper Levels” of Excalibur and above lies in their simplicity and in the ingenious application of LRH basics. Indeed, one way to regard the Bridge is that as one progresses, one is empowered to extend one’s confront further and further back in time, and even beyond “time” to realms in which “earlier” games were played.

As such, one handles incomplete cycles and unfinished games which are further and further up the “dwindling spiral”, towards the Beginning – a realm in which the importance and exactness of the Factors and Axioms becomes clear. Inasmuch as the dwindling spiral – the gradually accumulating tangle of incomplete cycles of action – produces great complexity, as one reaches back towards the very earliest games one finds oneself encountering areas of great simplicity which nonetheless can be very highly charged. The Ron’s Org Bridge addresses and handles these charges, and restores one’s quality of beingness to those enjoyed and manifested at the earliest stages of existence.

For further information on anything mentioned in this article, or to learn how to contact a Ron’s Org in your area, please contact [1].

Bill Ryan, January 2006

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akopij

12-12-2009, 02:27 AM

it's funny how complicate and intricate it looks at the top then it comes back to basics.

I feel like somehow the "bad guys" in the illuminati think in a very close way as we do.

this realy is all a game. lucky you can invent the rules

akopij

12-12-2009, 02:33 AM

and a little dnb session so you can drink your coffee snapping

http://dnbshare.com/download/Josh-Hill-InterstellarTransmission_Wed2009-Dec-09_.mp3.html

TempestGarden

12-12-2009, 03:33 AM

It is my belief that homo sexuality is only an effect of an unbalanced dichotomy between the feminine and masculine energies of the Universe. It is just one sign that shows us how unbalanced things have become. If every animal life form on the planet were suddenly converted to homo sexuality then within 120 years there would be no more life, thus it is of a destructive nature. Which is fine, destruction is merely a part of creation. But I bring this up only because I think it is a little thought about aspect of same sex relationships. I think it is just the Universes way of telling us how we really need to work on balancing all of the energies that constantly surround us.

I am not even really sure how to address this, to be quite honest.

In my opinion, you have it completely backwards. I am not saying that to offend you, I just fully believe that the reason why myself and others chose to incarnate as a homosexual is to experience BOTH the masculine and feminine energies. We are not confused nor are we unbalanced. Everyone is an individual and we all lead our own lives and are at different points in existence, just as it should be.

Everything is about balance, which is exactly why you would never see a majority of the population being homosexual because you wouldn't have further creation of a species, in this case humans. That in no way implies that I am not in alignment with nature or any sort of Universal Laws. All it really says is that I came here to experience life as a gay man and all the lessons it would give me, besides the dual energies I mentioned above.

Phtha

12-12-2009, 04:09 AM

Thanks Tempest you bring up some great points. In fact I was just forwarded some information that sort of corresponds with what you just wrote. There are certain native tribes, one in particular, that calls homosexuals "two souled", and that they incarnate in order to help balance the masculine and feminine energies. I thought this a great concept. I didn't mean to imply that homosexuals themselves are unbalanced but I understand how what I wrote would seem that way.

The main reason I brought it up was because I think this whole politically correct "ignore it and move along" way of viewing homosexuality is more damaging then good.

All the blest to you and thank you for your response.

I am not even really sure how to address this, to be quite honest.

In my opinion, you have it completely backwards. I am not saying that to offend you, I just fully believe that the reason why myself and others chose to incarnate as a homosexual is to experience BOTH the masculine and feminine energies. We are not confused nor are we unbalanced. Everyone is an individual and we all lead our own lives and are at different points in existence, just as it should be.

Gnosis5

12-12-2009, 04:27 AM

Hello, All:
Bill Ryan wrote:

Scientology processing (original material from L. Ron Hubbard) - but NOT the Church of Scientology. Stay away from them at all costs.

We'll soon be releasing a dynamite interview on this subject from a Church of Scientology whistleblower who blew the Church of Scientology apart 27 years ago and who has never before come forward publicly. This is the first announcement we've made about that. It's a transcript that runs to 26,500 words and is an astonishing story, even by Camelot standards. I hope to release this by the end of this week.

A hearty confirm about staying away from CofS as it operates now, although I was very happy to see the Buffalo branch just produced two "Clears".

I have had over 100hours of past life clearing sessions and gone as far back as my first separation from the "Static" or "Unpotentiated Potential". Doing this type of "back to basic" clearing work helps stabilize one here, plus opens up new worlds. I feel like I walk in more than one world now.

Clearing felt very linear for me until I reached the state of "All Clear" and then it took a quantum leap. Now I know how to play the game so that everyone wins. A lot of constructs fall away after one does some very deep clearing work.

halebox

12-12-2009, 04:37 AM

Gnosis5

12-12-2009, 04:54 AM

Anyone wonder why Greer says there's no bad ET's? Read between the lines. Enough said.

Please read the report that came out of a few between lives sessions:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17233&highlight=Nuns+Nannies

After that some Arcturans and I probably will not publish that -- they are highly schooled in mind and genetics control.

Not everyone shares my karmic connection and about 7 clearing sessions helped me recover my response-ability and I am certain I will no longer be abducted by these groups.

When viewing any abduction incident be sure to have your practitioner ask you to scan the incident for "anything hidden".

FIIISH

12-12-2009, 04:56 AM

I am not even really sure how to address this, to be quite honest.

In my opinion, you have it completely backwards. I am not saying that to offend you, I just fully believe that the reason why myself and others chose to incarnate as a homosexual is to experience BOTH the masculine and feminine energies. We are not confused nor are we unbalanced. Everyone is an individual and we all lead our own lives and are at different points in existence, just as it should be.

Everything is about balance, which is exactly why you would never see a majority of the population being homosexual because you wouldn't have further creation of a species, in this case humans. That in no way implies that I am not in alignment with nature or any sort of Universal Laws. All it really says is that I came here to experience life as a gay man and all the lessons it would give me, besides the dual energies I mentioned above.

Very well spoken, TempestGarden.

Gnosis5

12-12-2009, 05:02 AM

Hello, Everyone -

A warm welcome to all the new members - and new visitors. Thanks again for all the very positive comments. This is the energy that really keeps us going. If there was no-one out there, we'd not be doing our work.

Warm wishes to all - Bill

Hello Bill,

I learned the hard way that what you say about thoroughly checking the credentials of disembodied beings or channelings.

My question is how does one objectively determine if a group is well-intentioned or worse? I ask this because the implanters have instruments and illusions that at first made me swear up and down that they were here to help (except that I felt lousy afterward).

My other question is have you yourself ever had any legitimate contact with anyone in a group calling themselves the Galactic Federation? Is this a real existent group and are they really purposefully working to resolve dualities?

Aztar

12-12-2009, 05:02 AM

Hey Bill

Whats your thoughts on Obama?
Discloser president?
NWO puppet?
Messiah?
High tech Golem?

Also if distance is a problem to interview Lou "Sleeper" Baldin, perhaps a Skype audio interview may be easier.

eleni

12-12-2009, 05:09 AM

Gnosis 5- those are my thoughts- always helpful to know what one is getting themselves into no matter how seductive the race , technology, prowess......

I read that and clearing sessions have been helpful to me as well.

Derek

12-12-2009, 05:36 AM

That was the point of my looking as to what the DCMusclewolf had to do with anything and why I asked Bill if he had issues with Greer being gay. I have no issues with one's lifestyle as straight, gay, bi, or trans. I would like to know why Bill threw that into the mix and the link was not on that page so I had to look it up on Google to find the Manhunt pdf page.

US

If he was putting naked pictures of himself on a heterosexual sex website it would have the same reaction. Its not because hes gay its because he is clearly soliciting himself for sex and he has a wife and children.

Jetamus

12-12-2009, 06:56 AM

Hi Jetamus,

I was a little shocked too I must admit.

Although I'm in no way supporting the chap, I'm not too sure about the link there is to be made about Greers' sexual lifestyle and his work in the Extra-Terrestrial / free energy sphere (unless the three are linked in some way).

I think when a person or people start to slur others on a personal basis, their argument is lost as it's clear that there is no other way to prove the adversary wrong on a logical basis.

Oh well, that's life I suppose.

Best regards,

Steve

yeah
He can do whatever he wants in his personal life

George Michael for example admits to cottaging regularly, but that doesn't make his music any less enjoyable.

Too bad for Greer this will be used against him.
its not like disclosure people aren't ridiculed enough already.

edit:

If he was putting naked pictures of himself on a heterosexual sex website it would have the same reaction. Its not because hes gay its because he is clearly soliciting himself for sex and he has a wife and children.

he has a wife and kids!?

Majorion

12-12-2009, 07:29 AM

Greer is Queer who cares and who couldn't tell anyways? Stuff like a manhunt account is pretty normal for the gays. Kind of a cheap shot whomever posted that. Bill is not the originator of that link. Actually he probably feels great as he's got nothing to hide about his sexuality at this point.
Love you Bill and Kerry and so glad this sight is FREE as it must be
Also interesting Scientology interview. Ive never heard the other side of the story or was even aware. It sounds like Ron was into some cool research and methods. Had no idea it was taken over at some point.

I share your opinion there, the latest transcript was really a great read.

I never knew much of anything about Scientology before I read the testimony, in fact but it was indeed a very enlightening experience.

To be honest, the lesson learned here was not only that Scientology church had been infiltrated and how quickly that happened, but it appears to be the case (dare I say it) with all the world religions, especially the major religions.

My opinion is that the majority of religions and cults probably started out with a good message for humanity but quickly the dark forces infiltrate whatever hierarchical structure left for the future generations, thus contaminating the original message and ultimately fading it away with time.

Best regards,

Aztar

12-12-2009, 08:42 AM

Its not because hes gay its because he is clearly soliciting himself for sex and he has a wife and children.

Derek could you please bottle that "common sense" or put it in a pill form?
That would be awesome!:thumb_yello:

Dr. Greer is married. He and his wife have four daughters and reside in the Charlottesville , VA area.

Provided the information on manhunt is even Greer, if not it doesn't matter anyway does it.

Moving right along, where were we again?
Oh ya Questions for Bill Ryan

Hey Bill

Any chance of a Video interview with Alex Collier ?
It would be interesting to get more information on Mentoring.

chnswam

12-12-2009, 11:07 AM

Hi Bill,

Great to see you answering questions. Thanks for opening up Avalon forum.

2 quick questions:
1. Do you have any idea if the Osiris tomb story (there are many versions of the story: 1. that Osiris's tomb was found by Soviet KGB in Giza, 2. JJ Hurtak allegedly showed photos of Osiris's tomb to Viewzone magazine's editor Gary/Dan, 3. Zahi Hawass found it & probably made it off-limits) is true or a disinfo?

2. Do you have any plans to interview JJ Hurtak/Gary Vey (Dan Eden) of Viewzone magazine or Zahi Hawass (I know Zahi is not probable, but would like to know your thoughts)?

And I would like to say that I have benefited immeasurably by yours & Kerry's work. I salute you both for what you are doing. Keep up the good work :)

I like to know your thoughts on the 3 people that I have mentioned above.

Peace,
Chandra

Daft Ada

12-12-2009, 12:30 PM

Hi Bill, I see you have archived the Dec.10 radio show on the Camelot website, thank you for that, I am really looking forward to listening. Problem though, the links say website unavailable?

Dadrious

12-12-2009, 01:39 PM

That was the point of my looking as to what the DCMusclewolf had to do with anything and why I asked Bill if he had issues with Greer being gay. I have no issues with one's lifestyle as straight, gay, bi, or trans. I would like to know why Bill threw that into the mix and the link was not on that page so I had to look it up on Google to find the Manhunt pdf page.

US

The ethics question is obvious, in that Greer is supposed to be married with children yet had such an account as that.

Bill Ryan

12-12-2009, 01:41 PM

Hi, All:

Apologies for the sudden departure yesterday. A lot to catch up on here! Please forgive again any brevity or accidental omissions.

You mentioned in one of your recent interviews that you were given information as to what the Annunaki look like. I was wondering if you would be willing to share this info with us?

This is what we were told. Look at the old 1982 Schwarzenegger movie (a terrible movie!) Conan the Barbarian. At about the 92 minute mark the character played by James Earl Jones starts to morph into a huge snake. The reference here is NOT to the snake, but to the extended jaw. Apparently their jaw is just a little MORE extended than that.

Important notes: this is just about the shape of the face. NOT the skin color and NOT the snake.

The're apparently about 8 feet tall - but often look taller (as anyone would if you were 6 feet tall, or less). They are very strong. I duscuss this at length in the Freedom Central interview. They have many ancient ritual customs and (in Henry Deacon's words) "like to dress up".

Henry never saw their actual faces, which they keep hidden for ceremonial (or possibly other) reasons. They often wear cloaks, headdresses, etc. The Divine Right of Kings, and all the ceremony and ritual that associated with Royal Families everywhere, seems to be directly derived from Anunnaki ancient cultural ceremony and custom.

Bill, do you know anyone who could raise the chemtrail issue at copenhagen?

I'm afraid not - good question.

What are your thoughts on Contact, Jumpers, even Star wars and do you recommend any for us to see that are close to what we are and to our history ? Thank You Sir !

I totally agree with Kerry that many movies are laced with clues, hints and deliberate leaks. They also form a "fuse in the circuit" inasmuch if anyone talks about real Stargates in Egypt (for instance), there is then always the response "Oh, come on, that was just a movie."

We got heard that quite a lot in feedback after the Tony Dodd/ John Robie information http://projectcamelot.org/john_robie.html regarding the deformed little finger to indicate a non-human, which was in the TV series The Invaders. Tony told us that this was fact.

I notice the radio station want people to pay to listen to their archives. So will you be having the archives on your site please?

There was a statement on 27th November that You and Kerry were interviewed by Rumour Mill News Radio and still no Interview.
I find myself going to the site for days on end and sometime there is nothing new, just constant announcements of what you are doing next.

Kerry's radio show archives will be freely available on the Camelot site. The first show is here:

http://projectcameot.org/2009-Dec-10_Project_Camelot_Whistleblower_Radio_David_Wilco ck_1.mp3
http://projectcameot.org/2009-Dec-10_Project_Camelot_Whistleblower_Radio_David_Wilco ck_2.mp3

Also on the Audio Interviews page (top right):

http://projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html

The Rumor Mill News interview is available here:

http://rumormillnewsradio.com/podcast/?s=camelot

... but it's extremely hard to find. We'll post that link on the site.

I'm wondering if you and Kerry might interview Ashayana Deane, Marshall Vian Summers, George Kavassilas, and/or Drunvalo Melchizadek?

Also wondering what you think of David Wilcock's recent very positive views of what is occurring - such as the imminent fall of the Illuminate, and if we could be out of the woods with the dark ET's?

Ashayana Deane - Kerry wants to interview her.
Marshall Vian Summers - we've read and respect his work, and it seems plausible.
George Kavassilas - we'd like to learn more about him. We get a lot of requests.
Drunvalo Melchizadek - no plans at the moment.

We (cautiously!) do share David's optimism... but also share his view, and than of many others, that things might get more chaotic and difficult before they get better.

Do you guys have any format ideas and what type of content will be included in Project Light Warrior?

The idea was a resource site aimed at equipping people to be 'spiritual warriors' in the modern world - teaching martial arts, remote viewing, basic spiritual orientations, data analysis tools, etc etc (lots of ideas). Still in the concept stage.

I am definitely interested in Bills opinion on guys like Sheldan Nidle and Mark Huber.

Sheldan Nidle - see earlier reply.
Mark Huber - NESARA is nonsense, as is the Ashtar Command (sorry!!)

Have you received any new info on Project Blue Beam and do you think this could be associated with the Norway event??

I do personally think the best explanation for the Norway event is likely to be this:

http://gizmodo.com.au/2009/12/this-is-how-the-mysterious-giant-spiral-happened/

(sorry also) :)

Has there been any more information from Benjamin Fulford or anyone else providing corroboration about the mid-January financial collapse?

Nothing more, I'm afraid.

Have you heard of a gent called Virgil Armstrong who used to be on the lecture circuit 12 - 15 years ago? He was personally physically present at a downed UFO around the time of the famous Roswell crash but not at the well publicised Roswell crash. he also talked of underground tunnels connecting continents with high speed magnetic/ levitating trains etc. A most amazing gent who 40 years ago was CIA the saw the light and started his spiritual journey which involved walking away from everything he had built up and living with a certain tribe of Indians in the wild for 7 years.

Thanks for the info. We've heard of Virgil Armstrong but have never met him. Kerry is no longer in Sedona... we will check this out more.

What do you do to relax, with your hectic schedule ?

Ha!

HDo you have any hypotheses or details regarding who the gods are and what they do, and in particular what the difference is between how they operate and how the Annunaki operate, and exactly where and what the Annunaki are doing right now?

Please see the Freedom Central interview - I talk about the Anunnaki quite a lot there - all I know, in fact. Not yet linked on our site, but the audio MP3 extract (one single file, edited down to 2 hrs 9 mins) is here:

http://projectcamelot.org/Bill_Ryan_Project_Camelot_interviewed_by_Freedom_C entral.mp3

Bill, are you and Kerry getting along?

Are you seeing eye to eye?

Do you envision that Kerry and yourself will be working close together in 12 months or 2 years?

Yes, yes and yes :)

When are you comming to New Zealand to do some Mountain climbing with me?:original: Some pretty amazing climbs here!!

Never been to NZ, and would love to.

Please consider the possible link between Jane Burgermeister and Sorcha Faal/Zionist interests as outlined in the following post, which is from the "Sorcha Faal? (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17894)" thread:

With my honest respect to you and your highly intelligent views and opinions: Sorry, this is nonsense. 'Sorcha Faal' is almost never worth reading or paying any attention to whatsoever. His/her (real ID: David Booth, paid agent) tall tales are wild, unverifiable, and usually invented.

I know Jane personally. Few people in America, of course, have seen or met her. This is a disadvantage for many observers - which is why I made the video to set the record straight.

She's human and fallible, as are we all with no exceptions, but there is no agenda here apart from her earnest and sometimes very passionate attempts to help. She's on a steep learning curve, is exhausted, has very little money, and is doing her level best to wake people up. Bless her for that. We need more like her.

Much of the public antagonism to her (and influence of Ott and Deagle) has come directly from Alex Studer, who (and I'll break a rule of mine and say it publicly here) is not a pleasant character. He has not helped this situation one bit. There are no bad guys here. Just human frailty and fallibility on all sides.

Heard Kerry mention "remote influencing". And have been wondering how is it possible that many truth movements just when they are about to reach a climax, one person or a group of person suddenly begin to attack another person or persons in the same movement and the attack ends up undermining everything that had been achieved. Have witnessed this so many times that I am reluctant to believe that these are merely coincidences.

Could you or Kerry perhaps consider talking about this in more detail, perhaps on a radio show or so?

You hit the nail right on the head. There is more remote influencing than we would ever imagine. I too have experienced it directly on many occasions. It's totally invisible and totally real, and it works on people to cause conflict, misunderstandings, 'bad luck', ill-health, etc. Usually conflict and misunderstandings.

It takes advantage of human weakness to amplify thoughts and doubts they already have. It adds fuel to the cinders to create roaring flames.

[Re Clif High and his Private Investigator on Deagle]
is there proof of this Bill? who is this 'we' that you heard this from...otherwise, all of it is more hearsay. track records speak for themselves, and clif's interpretation of the linguistic data, as far as being considered a 'positive hit', is pretty long, especially when compared to the info that Deagle has put out.

As best I recall, Clif told us this himself. But I'd not swear to it. I'd need to dig up the e-mail (or it might have been an unrecorded conversation). My caveats were because I couldn't quite remember for sure where the info came from. But this is what happened. I was not impressed.

Re Clif's track record - it's not as good as most people think. We do value his work as a general weathervane, and keep in touch with him, but he's got a lot of things very wrong over the last 12-15 months and so we need to bear this in mind.

It may not be his FAULT that he has things wrong - because timelines change. Like Deagle and many others (including ourselves) in the summer of 2008, there were good reasons to believe that all hell would break loose over a year ago.

That didn't happen. That doesn't mean that the forecasts, inside info and premonitions were 'wrong'. Just that events have ben avoided. It's not as simple and linear as one might at first think.

That was the point of my looking as to what the DCMusclewolf had to do with anything and why I asked Bill if he had issues with Greer being gay. I have no issues with one's lifestyle as straight, gay, bi, or trans. I would like to know why Bill threw that into the mix and the link was not on that page so I had to look it up on Google to find the Manhunt pdf page.

US

Derek said it accurately here:

If he was putting naked pictures of himself on a heterosexual sex website it would have the same reaction. Its not because hes gay its because he is clearly soliciting himself for sex and he has a wife and children.

It's nothing to do with homophobia. It's about integrity.

There's another point which almost everyone has missed (though I think Eleni, who is very smart and perceptive, will be one of the few people ahead of me here):

He was married before 2001 - and is is now gay. He used to be lean and skinny, but since 2001 he's body-built himself to resemble a small T Rex. His views and operating principles have all changed dramatically. If you meet him personally, he is stone cold.

From this, we can form hypotheses to account for this dramatic change in everything about him.

This is the real point.

Hello Bill,
My question is how does one objectively determine if a group is well-intentioned or worse? I ask this because the implanters have instruments and illusions that at first made me swear up and down that they were here to help (except that I felt lousy afterward).

My other question is have you yourself ever had any legitimate contact with anyone in a group calling themselves the Galactic Federation? Is this a real existent group and are they really purposefully working to resolve dualities?

1) It's very hard. Tricks and traps abound.
2) Not in physical terms. But in my opinion such a group (or something like it) very probably exists.

Whats your thoughts on Obama?
Discloser president?
NWO puppet?
Messiah?
High tech Golem?

I answered this on the Rayelan Allan/ Rumor Mill Radio interview by saying [really brief summary of a much longer response that might be worth listening to] that it wouldn't matter whether Obama was an angel... the President is not in charge anyway. So Obama's personal views and intentions may be irrelevant.

We heard it from Dr Peterson - and have had it conformed from another source since then, with an actual Obama quote which I have promised not to repeat - that when Obama was briefed after being elected, he put his head in his hands and said [words to the effect that] "Oh no, I'm just the scapegoat." We believe this.

Any chance of a Video interview with Alex Collier ?

Definitely possible.

1. Do you have any idea if the Osiris tomb story (there are many versions of the story: 1. that Osiris's tomb was found by Soviet KGB in Giza, 2. JJ Hurtak allegedly showed photos of Osiris's tomb to Viewzone magazine's editor Gary/Dan, 3. Zahi Hawass found it & probably made it off-limits) is true or a disinfo?

2. Do you have any plans to interview JJ Hurtak/Gary Vey (Dan Eden) of Viewzone magazine or Zahi Hawass (I know Zahi is not probable, but would like to know your thoughts)?

1) No information on this.
2) We have met JJ Hurtak - an interesting man. We have some intermediaries who could help us to get alongside him. As always, logistics are a challenge.
Zahi Hawass - would be a miracle :)

Hi Bill, I see you have archived the Dec.10 radio show on the Camelot website, thank you for that, I am really looking forward to listening. Problem though, the links say website unavailable?

Now fixed:

http://projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html

Steven

12-12-2009, 01:54 PM

Hi Bill and all Avalonians!

Thank you very much for your dedication and passion. I am enjoying the game as well. Kerry and you makes the game even much interesting for many :thumb_yello:. I would have so many things to ask, but I'll keep it simple with one question. Will you make an interview with a Mayan calendar serious researcher? Maybe a Mayan?

I have seen so many fabricated theories and as much assumptions about 2012 that I came to the conclusion our dear 'manipulators' have stepped in to confuse the mass about another profound truth. Many predication are not even Mayan calendars interpretation but simply predicted events on which some will stick the 2012 tag on it. The Hollywood movie is a powerful tool of mental manipulation.

All these "doom and gloom" theories are doing no good into the mass consciousness inducing fear of the future. Many know that the Mayan calendars are not predicting "end of the world scenario".

I came across a serious researcher on the Mayan calendars and this man is also concerned about the "manipulation" and "interpretation" of the mayan calendars. Carl Johan Calleman has a long and dedicated path on studying and researching the Mayan calendars and cultures. Here is his website:

http://www.calleman.com/

Thanks again for your time :thumb_yello:. And blessed be you and Kerry, may your path always be blessed and protected.

Namaste, Steven

Seashore

12-12-2009, 02:00 PM

Sorry, this is nonsense. 'Sorcha Faal' is almost never worth reading or paying any attention to whatsoever. His/her (real ID: David Booth, paid agent) tall tales are wild, unverifiable, and usually invented.

In my opinion Sorcha Faal is never worth reading, except to understand what the enemy is up to.

The point of my lengthy post showing my research is to show that there is reason to believe that Jane is in league with, knowingly or unknowingly, Zionist/New World Order interests.

In my humble opinion, Dr Ott should be directly consulted about this by Camelot.

Much of the public antagonism to her (and influence of Ott and Deagle) has come directly from Alex Studer, who (and I'll break a rule of mine and say it publicly here) is not a pleasant character.

This may be true but I don't believe it is relevant to the important issue at hand.

You're saying that Alex is influencing Ott and Deagle?

Ott is the person who had the direct interaction with Jane. His story is the starting point.

rfebres

12-12-2009, 02:04 PM

Hi Bill, just want to thank you for responding to my previously noted post.
Keep up the good work. Wish you Kerry come and visit us here in Phoenix soon. Apparently you were here not so long ago and I missed it :mad3:

I must say I was a little disappointed to come back to this thread and find all this talk about someone's sexual orientation and its relation to his ethics, honesty and so forth. I haven't met anyone who is perfect yet, including myself and doubt if I ever will.

Someone once said:

"That one who is without sin, cast the first stone"

This is all I have to say about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ltAGuuru7Q&feature=related

Love and peace to all

AlexTony

12-12-2009, 02:11 PM

Hi Bill & Kerry,

Just a HUGE Thank You for all your time and efforts. May Love & Light in always be with you.

AlexTony

Kinsuemei2

12-12-2009, 02:55 PM

I personally have always wanted to know the story behind the Hat because I am sure its a good one, so Bill why did you choose to adopt the Hat? Because I am sure that it has become synonymous with Bill Ryan, as Indiana Jones.

In fact when my wife saw the Freedom Central video she clapped her hands and said "The man in the hat is back!!!"

GoingToFast

12-12-2009, 03:04 PM

viking

12-12-2009, 03:11 PM

GoingToFast

12-12-2009, 03:17 PM

:thumb_yello:

viking

What was the point of this last post Viking , what were you saying???

Agape

12-12-2009, 03:27 PM

Hello Bill and Kerry,

there is not enough words and space to thank you for all your noble efforts , search for Truth and Freedom of information , perseverance of your actions and sharing your work openly with others.
Thanks again for setting the forum open to everyone, i'm sure it made a nice Xmas gift and brought smiles to many faces.
I for one almost never do any internet transactions but tried to pay membership here with my Visa card , and failed. Tried several times, it did not work. Getting paypal just to be a member of Avalon felt like paradoxical idea to me so i gave up, sorry :lol3:

On more serious note..few of us here are wondering how to approach you with wittness testimony so to make sure its content will be heard.
I'm afraid that unless a name or problematics is known and published , coming with first hand testimony almost ensures that you will skip over it among the 'thousands emails' you receive every week.

Wish you Merry Christmas and many years to go on the high mountain path..

AgaPe

:original:

viking

12-12-2009, 03:28 PM

What was the point of this last post Viking , what were you saying???

I was agreeing with Steven's post...supporting his request...it would be fantastic if Bill could arrange for an interview with what Steven has suggested in his post...

And Bill, this would be a great idea...

Again...:thumb_yello:

viking

GoingToFast

12-12-2009, 03:35 PM

About Steven Greer :

I have seen the DCMuscelwulf Manhunt pdf.

QESTION : Were is the Proof of that being Steven Greer , is that all there is in this matter, because if it is no more then this , then in that case this Forum has hit a new low-water mark.
Were is the PROOF of that being Steven Greer.
Do you Idiots realise what you are doing if that's NOT Steven Greer, besides that , IF.. it were to be Steven Greer what ****ing business is it of yours what his sexual preferences are, that is a completely PRIVATE matter !!!

AND... also take into consideration that Steven Greer is married and has children... do you realise the damage and harm you could be doing if you are wrong on this matter .

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELFS !!!

Freedom of Speech does have it's occasional drawbacks.

To Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy :

Maybe I'm not fully up to par on this issue and are missing some facts here, but this is a serious problem for you both , if you can not back this up then it's outright maligned slander, and to you Bill , on one of your posts on this thread you stated that this was all true , if it isn't true then you should be ashamed , you have to understand the damage you could be doing to private individuals who are linked to Steven Greer, Children and other relatives.

I am so ashamed of being part of this forum right now....

Bill Ryan

12-12-2009, 03:48 PM

Hi, All:

Will you make an interview with a Mayan calendar serious researcher? Maybe a Mayan?

Very good idea, and definitely on our purpose line.

there is reason to believe that Jane is in league with, knowingly or unknowingly, Zionist/New World Order interests.

Of course not. ["Unknowingly" can't be defended, however. You or I might unknowingly be used by anyone at all out there.]

The issue is her integrity.

You're saying that Alex is influencing Ott and Deagle?

Yes. He's trying to fan the flames.

But it was Ott who took offense at Jane's sharp responses to him when she felt attacked by him (with some good reason). I have the e-mail record of the whole thing.

The latest to come from Ott is that he wrote to his list that [paraphrase] he believes that we are indeed part of the other 1960s Project Camelot (as reported for a few days by Rense in August). That tells us a little about how good a researcher he is.

By the way, I can now answer your earlier question re the source of my information that Clif High had put a Private Investigator on Deagle to check his bank account transactions behind the scenes, and had drawn some silly conclusions after finding some income that the PI could not account for.

I found the e-mail, and (as I'd thought, but couldn't quite remember) it came from Clif himself.

Daft Ada

12-12-2009, 03:54 PM

With regard to the Norwy Spiral with the blue beam, I wondered if it was some of our alien friends arriving and jumping from hyperspace or faster than light speed. :welcomeani:

GoingToFast

12-12-2009, 03:54 PM

Hi, All:

Very good idea, and definitely on our purpose line.

Of course not. ["Unknowingly" can't be defended, however. You or I might unknowingly be used by anyone at all out there.]

The issue is her integrity.

Yes. He's trying to fan the flames.

But it was Ott who took offense at Jane's sharp responses to him when she felt attacked by him (with some good reason). I have the e-mail record of the whole thing.

The latest to come from Ott is that he wrote to his list that [paraphrase] he believes that we are indeed part of the other 1960s Project Camelot (as reported for a few days by Rense in August). That tells us a little about how good a researcher he is.

By the way, I can now answer your earlier question re the source of my information that Clif High had put a Private Investigator on Deagle to check his bank account transactions behind the scenes, and had drawn some silly conclusions after finding some income that the PI could not account for.

I found the e-mail, and (as I'd thought, but couldn't quite remember) it came from Clif himself.

Is this an answer to my post above, or what...?

Pangaea

12-12-2009, 04:03 PM

Hi Bill, Kerry & co.

New to the forum here, but not to the scean

Keep up the great work.

A quick question to your good self.

Have you, Kerry or any of the gang heard of any recent developments regarding the implementation of codex alimentarius this month?
Info on this has dried up in recent years, and I just cant help but wonder if people have taken their eye off this perticular ball due to the flurry of other developments in other areas.

Ps. may mail you soon regarding my eagerness to get more involved with helping camalot and avalon in general.. are you ok with personal emails as I have a couple of ideas of where i may be of help.

Anyway all the best,
Regards to Kerry and the rest of the gang.

Forgive any spelling mistakes.

Daft Ada

12-12-2009, 04:09 PM

:emot-sad::emot-sad:Bill, part two of the radio archive is still not working mate. :sad:

apple

12-12-2009, 04:11 PM

Thanks for your reply on "remote influencing".

What technology is used for remote influencing and is there anything one can do to protect oneself?

Personally, I suspect I may have experienced some of that sort. I experienced it when lieing in bed and suddenly my mattress would send shaking waves thru my body. This would happen on an irregular basis. First I assumed I was picking up early earth quake waves but earth quake waves move from one direction to another direction. The shaking from my mattress was constant for as long as it lasted. Then I had two men who looked like twins and were in their late 30's knock on my door. I live in a highrise and access to our apartments is controlled but these guys got in anyway. They looked intelligent and if you were to meet them in the street you would never notice them because the way they were dressed they appeared unnoticeable, like getting totally lost in the crowd. I was not in a presentable condition and opened the door just a little. They just stood there and looked at me and I looked at them. So, I asked them what they wanted. They said we understand that you have an internet connection with xyz and we wanted to know how the connection is. I replied it is working ok. Then they looked at me again as if they were uncertain what to do with me next. So I decided to close the door. But just before I could ,the man closest to me pulled an orange pastic card out of his pocket and gave it to me. I took it and proceeded to close the door again. But before I could close the door again he said he needed that plastic card back. I returned the plastic card and then finally closed the door. My gut feeling told me there was something "totally wrong" here and I felt relieved that I had closed the door. I have not experienced any shaking from my mattress since then. Very strange.

Am wondering have you heard of similar incidents? Am still wondering what that plastic card was all about.

Fredkc

12-12-2009, 04:36 PM

Apple;

1. For what its worth, whoever took back the card now has your finger prints, and possibly your DNA. Why? Go figure.

2. My bed hasn't done that in years, but then, I'm all out of quarters. :D

(Sorry, cheap joke, had to be done)

Fred

Bill Ryan

12-12-2009, 04:45 PM

:emot-sad::emot-sad:Bill, part two of the radio archive is still not working mate. :sad:

Sincere apologies. My fault. DEFINITELY fixed now. (Empty cache and refresh the page if necessary)

I personally have always wanted to know the story behind the Hat because I am sure its a good one, so Bill why did you choose to adopt the Hat? Because I am sure that it has become synonymous with Bill Ryan, as Indiana Jones.

In fact when my wife saw the Freedom Central video she clapped her hands and said "The man in the hat is back!!!"

I found it at Jo'burg airport in 2002. It fitted like a glove and it was love at first sight.

It's in its second incarnation now - its replacement was bought for me by Kerry in Glastonbury in 2006. I wear it as a kind of personal logo, so that I'm easy to recognize at conferences and events.

It prompts a lot of jokes and banter and helps to keep things light. I loved it when I met Jim Humble... it was very funny. He relates to his hat in the same way... as does Jim Marrs. I'm in good company :)

Dear Mr. Ryan

Would you care to comment on Mr Wilcock's associations with Mike Quincy whom participated in the Nesara fraud for 8 years? Or Mr. Fulford's association with Patrick Bellringer whom participated in the Nesara fraud as well since you commented on the nesara fraud earlier?

Very sorry... I don't know anything about that.

What technology is used for remote influencing and is there anything one can do to protect oneself?

Big question, and way beyond the scope of this quick reply. It needs a major article or a whole interview. Personally, I use Hubbard's techniques (Free Zone scientology) and these work beautifully. Others use different techniques and they also work well - all based on the same principles.

Basically you have to get in touch with the source of the problem and handle it telepathically. (The other strategy is to create a shield, but that doesn't eliminate the root cause). I talk about this a [I]little bit in my Freedom Central interview:

http://projectcamelot.org/Bill_Ryan_Project_Camelot_interviewed_by_Freedom_C entral.mp3

Have you, Kerry or any of the gang heard of any recent developments regarding the implementation of codex alimentarius this month?

No. Good question. It's a very important topic - one of many on the radar at the moment.

I do personally trust the information from Rima Laibow and Bert Stubblebine from Health Freedom USA (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org).

As an aside, if this is of interest, Pete Peterson told us spontaneously (not as part of the interview) that Bert Stubblebine, whom he knew personally, was a man of the highest integrity and someone he would absolutely trust [my paraphrase from memory].

Bobbie

12-12-2009, 04:59 PM

Yeah Bill and you can be sure we will be keeping an eye on you too. If you start to buff up, we'll know you've been gotten to also. :mfr_lol: T-Rex is exactly the same description I would use. I saw you at the Awake and Aware conference in person and so far you're safe from accusation. Keep up the good, fine and noble work you and Kerry are doing. You have been commissioned you know.
Hi, All:

There's another point which almost everyone has missed (though I think Eleni, who is very smart and perceptive, will be one of the few people ahead of me here):

He was married before 2001 - and is is now gay. He used to be lean and skinny, but since 2001 he's body-built himself to resemble a small T Rex. His views and operating principles have all changed dramatically. If you meet him personally, he is stone cold.

From this, we can form hypotheses to account for this dramatic change in everything about him.

This is the real point.

Spregovori

12-12-2009, 05:24 PM

Bill/Mr. Ryan, during the Brussels and LA Conference...the live stream chat was...filled with utter nonsense and disrespect towards PC, speakers and there were also direct and very improper things said regarding you and Kerry.

Nothing wrong with live streaming here! I enjoyed it. I just wish to bring your attention to the chat (the window besides the video). I do not know why was that allowed but I think the next time the chat should be either monitored or turned off.

I was surprised to see people...hanging on that chat for hours (the whole time) making idiotic statements.

The things said and the way they said it - this can easily repel any new or accidental visitor to that video stream. While the other way around (productive, sane, logical, insightful..etc) conversation could not only keep the new visitors but also made this new visitors to recommend PC to their friends...and there is nothing better than a verbal "commercial" from someone you know.

and

Would it be possible for Dane Tops to describe in great detail all the positive techniques? Step by step instructions on how to do it? He said the original founder (Hubbard) always intended for people to know and learn them - so why not do it? I know he recommended the original Dianetics as a start but still...the book is rather old...and an update seems a logical thing to do. The things he talked about (I read the transcript) are very interesting.... Letting the general public know (via internet) how to implement this techniques could prove a crushing blow to the "bad people".

and :) (the last one)

Do you read Mr. Fulfords blog posts? Any thoughts?

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

Thank you for you time.

no caste

12-12-2009, 05:33 PM

I was agreeing with Steven's post...supporting his request...it would be fantastic if Bill could arrange for an interview with what Steven has suggested in his post...

And Bill, this would be a great idea...

Again...:thumb_yello:

viking

Hi Steven and Viking,

I heard a broadcast on CBC radio, where an archeologist was interviewed about 2012 and the Mayan calendar. It was at about the time of the release of the movie last month. She had some VERY interesting comments - the intellectual history - on the 'Westernization' of Mayan culture with some who, when, etc.

Here's an article about her, which I've found as I tried to dig up the CBC podcast. If I find the podcast, I will post it too.

>>>> I started a new thread: The Mayan Calendar - Archeology, Culture >>>> http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=198716#post198716

eleni

12-12-2009, 05:49 PM

Regarding Greer- it's not hard to *match* up the pics with his body. Also keep in mind there were other pictures........

Greer *put* himself out there. Bill didn't put his pictures out there for everyone to see. Greer did that himself.

Certain sexual practices will open kundalini, portals, entities, etc;

enigmatus

12-12-2009, 05:50 PM

Would it be possible for Dane Tops to describe in great detail all the positive techniques? Step by step instructions on how to do it? ... Letting the general public know (via internet) how to implement this techniques could prove a crushing blow to the "bad people".

I couldn't agree more. I would love to see these techniques detailed so that I might utilize and share them.

Daft Ada

12-12-2009, 05:57 PM

Bill I listened to the Rayelan Allan interview via the link you put in your earlier post in this thread, if the link you have put on your Camelot website is the same one (And it looks like it is)
it's only an 18 minute sample and they tell you to hear the rest you have to become a member and pay. Minimum for one month $6.99 :tears:

GoingToFast

12-12-2009, 06:08 PM

4) His ethics and values are open to question. Visit this page (http://www.worldviewopinion.com/blog/_archives/2009/8/26/4300096.htm) and scroll down to the very bottom. Then click on the DCMusclewolf link. It is real.

After this was leaked, within hours Greer closed his Manhunt account.

Mr Bill Ryan .

You are a man completely without integrity , this is not the kind of behaviour I would expect from an English Gentleman , but then again , apparently you are not a Gentleman and that is simply because a True Gentleman would rise above the dirt and not let himself be apart of it , THAT.. is one of the signs of a True Gentleman .

After seeing the Greer-interview that you and Kerry Cassidy did it was absolutely clear to me that you two had a very negative stands towards him and his work, but even if you do have negative views on someones work or believes , THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO CONDUCT YOURSELF , a sincere discussion do not include smear-attacks like this , and IF.. you do go on an offense like this you better back it up 100% with solid proof . If there is proof of what you are saying then you better present them . I have seen that DCMusclewolf Manhunt pdf and I can tell you that there is NOTHING that can link that pdf to Steven Greer . I can say to you mr Bill Ryan , UNAQUIVACLY , if you can not produce the evidence of what you are stating - then you my good man are in deep disgrace.

Produce the evidence or apologise to Steven Greer

THEWATCHER

12-12-2009, 06:25 PM

An earlier post by NoCaste mentioned how whistleblowers should approach the Camelot team and be heard, among the mass of other comms they get. Thats not easy, I have been kicking my heels here for over a year and without sounding big headed, am not exactly an unknown name in that field or even Ufo research. Newcomers would perhaps find it difficult to catch Bill or Kerry's ear or eye. I think they have a comfortable 'family' of individuals they regularly call upon for confs and interviews, these being Deagle, Wilcock, Delicardo, Deacon, Peterson, etc etc. Its like a little closed shop with these same individuals. I personally would not bother trying to be heard above the kerfuffle of these 'family' members. Just an observation:original:

TheChosen

12-12-2009, 06:31 PM

This topic has proven so far a great read.. thanks for sharing all the information you have Bill.
The explanations about the Anunnaki are head on.. loving it.. especially the 'dress up' and 'superheroes' part.. so accurate.. lol

I'd have some more questions:

1) What are the real reasons for the CERN accelerator? From my own astral experiences I've seen CERN to be a major black ops research center (Any insider information on what goes on in there?)

2) Have you by any chance heard about connections between the hyperdimensional AI and a guy named Hubert Dreyfus or the RAND corporation .. or perhaps connections between the AI and CERN

3) Latest info is that the vaccine is actually intended to do DNA mutation much like the movie Legend turning people into a Zombie like state (could be on etheric/astral level if not physical).. it came from Astralwalker in his topic. It sounds outlandish but I've had strong astral experiences 6 months! before the swine flu happened with a scenario unfolding exactly like that. And couple of others after the swine flu hit.. again indicating the same scenario.
Do you have any such information coming from other sources?

Drunvalo should be definately on your interview list in my opinion as he has a LOT of information from the native people.. which is invaluable.. especially information pertaining to 2012 from the Mayan Elders and their 'leader' Don Alejandro.

Lionhawk

12-12-2009, 06:33 PM

rfebres

12-12-2009, 06:51 PM

Going to Fast,

What's your point? Bill can defend himself. But what kind of entitlement are you seeking here? If someone's sexual orientation isn't really an issue, why are you trying to give us that ram it home feeling again? Isn't obvious to you and everyone else why you weren't answered?

I think we have more important issues to deal with here than someone's sexual orientation and why someone didn't answer you. If you sincerely wanted an answer with your questions, you could have left your demeaning accusations out of it. If you were to beat me over the head with a bat and demand I answer you, I would never comply.

The interview you spoke of was had some bumps in it. The most important one was about Greer's take that there are only good Ets. That was a lie and Kerry tried to flush that out. Let the interview stand as sometimes the truth will just pee you off. Anyone who is in the field and on the front line can tell you this isn't the case. I also didn't see where Bill was aggressive towards Greer in the first place in that interview. So I find that is really off base and without merit. Speaking of integrity, why not apply it to what is really important. :mad3:

I totally agree with you Lionhawk, there are lot more important issues to concentrate our energy, in peace, in unity and most of all in compassion with one another.

GoingToFast

12-12-2009, 06:57 PM

[I]Going to Fast,

What's your point? Bill can defend himself. But what kind of entitlement are you seeking here? If someone's sexual orientation isn't really an issue, why are you trying to give us that ram it home feeling again? Isn't obvious to you and everyone else why you weren't answered?

Well apparently he can not defend himself... and after all , Bill Ryan is the one who brought up the subject of Steven Greers sexuality and that in a somewhat degrading way, but above all , trying to put Steven Greers work in a bad light through his sexuality suggesting that he has a low integrity because he is a Homosexual , IF.. he is a homosexual , all you have to do is go back on this thread and read his own statement on the issue.
I am very disapointed.

GoingToFast

12-12-2009, 07:00 PM

I totally agree with you Lionhawk, there are lot more important issues to concentrate our energy, in peace, in unity and most of all in compassion with one another.

Apparently you do not have compassion for Steven Greer who are being dragged through the mudd...

Dadrious

12-12-2009, 07:02 PM

Well apparently he can not defend himself... and after all , Bill Ryan is the one who brought up the subject of Steven Greers sexuality and that in a somewhat degrading way, but above all , trying to put Steven Greers work in a bad light through his sexuality suggesting that he has a low integrity because he is a Homosexual , all you have to do is go back on this thread and read his own statement on the issue.
I am very disapointed.

That is not what Bill did. Again, it's because Greer is married with children yet had an account like that on manhunt or whatever it was called. I think you just want a big arguement/crapstorm.

Flying Pyramid

12-12-2009, 07:12 PM

Hello again Bill.
I left here once the forum went paid and i just recieved an e-mail saying that it was free again. Kuddos.
I have tried to contact you several times through various means, even a few admins and mods here tried to turn you and Kerry's attention in my direction.
I posted this thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7551
along with a couple of others and this one became the most popular. most watched thread on the forum with over 155 replies and over 25,000 views within just 3 weeks of it being posted.

I have returned cause i think that the e-mail sent to me was another message that perhaps now is the time to release this type of interview.
I have much more detailed information about a great many things including my most recent visions involving the vail and new technologies.
I have networked with some very powerful and influential people since i left this forum nearly 2 years ago.

Thank you to everyone who has sent me e-mails and blessings to stay but you all undetstand why i had to leave.
But i am back and perhaps the time is now!

sloper

12-12-2009, 07:15 PM

There is something about Steven Greer as a human being that has never added up to me. There is an incongruence there, as though he is not hooked up to his core, pretending to be something he is not.

However, unless he has said he is now gay, or unless we have a picture of his head attached in a picture with another man, I don't buy the Manhunter ad. I really don't buy the little essay he wrote about what he likes and what he doesn't sexually. For one reason, he doesn't strike me as that sophisticated. For another, he has said his family was one of the founders of the country. Do you really think he would put himself in that position in an ad? To me, this is a blatant set up and another distraction from the issues we care about.

What next? Will we be seeing Bill in a bustier and whip, Kerry in a dog collar? Deagle in a tutu?

Jonah

12-12-2009, 07:18 PM

It is not wise to have dialogue of such a nature if it cannot be done without "who said what".

Before continuing consider words carefully please.

IMO sexual orientation is of no relevance in such a forum. :cheerful_h4h:

Dadrious

12-12-2009, 07:18 PM

What next? Will we be seeing Bill in a bustier and whip, Kerry in a dog collar? Deagle in a tutu?

:mfr_lol: :lmfao::roll1:

GoingToFast

12-12-2009, 07:23 PM

That is not what Bill did. Again, it's because Greer is married with children yet had an account like that on manhunt or whatever it was called. I think you just want a big arguement/crapstorm.

How can you make a statement like this when there is no link between that pdf and Steven Greer and between that account and Steven Greer .

Crapstorm....? just like you yourself has stated , there are children involved here, and as far as I'm concerned it is Bill Ryan who are hurting those children and not Steven Greer .

Dadrious

12-12-2009, 07:27 PM

How can you make a statement like this when there is no link between that pdf and Steven Greer and between that account and Steven Greer .

Crapstorm....? just like you yourself has stated , there are children involved here, and as far as I'm concerned it is Bill Ryan who are hurting those children and not Steven Greer .

Please do continue on your crusade, save the children. Don't bother to actually look into Steven Greer, the article linked or the pdf.

IMU

12-12-2009, 07:30 PM

I'm still interested in how someone could find Greer's ad? Unfortunately noone's nature can be changed regardless to the matter that his ancestors were the founders of the US...

I have a question to you, Bill:
Have you heard anything about Clifford Stone and Jim Sparks recently?
Clifford has a very similar opinion about the visitors as Greer's. Cliff says that they are absolutely not hostile and the real danger is us. He seems to know nothing about the Reptilians (as such) or the Annunaki or the Illuminati. He says his friend, Korona is a Reptilian (?) He's a very generous Christian man and I believe his words. There's a very good interview with him on www.consciousmedianetwork.com in the "interviews" section. Highly recommendable. Are you considering interviewing him once again or Jim Sparks? What is your opinion about Whitley Strieber? Sorry for the number of questions... Love ya Kerry and Bill! :original:

Daft Ada

12-12-2009, 07:35 PM

What next? Will we be seeing Bill in a bustier and whip, Kerry in a dog collar? Deagle in a tutu?
Kerry in a dog collar.... give me a minute to think about that :smoke: :naughty:

Quantum

12-12-2009, 07:44 PM

Bill -

How do you view the relevance of suppressed Free Energy technology in the mix of Project Camelot's information disclosing mission?

If indeed you have a personal interest in the subject, how would you approach funding/releasing the tech if a practical device (example: initially a PC sized fuelless electric generator < 1000 watts) was ready to be manufactured?

Peace.

GaiaLove

12-12-2009, 07:50 PM

Please maintain the integrity of this thread by refraining from using it to converse on these subjects.
This thread is the one place on the forum where everyone can ask questions regarding Camelot and Avalon and get replies.
Forcing Bill to wade through post after post of opinions, counter opinions, arguments etc is counter productive.

Govern yourselves accordingly, lest thy post be deleted

With Love
Richard

morguana

12-12-2009, 08:24 PM

wow, think some of you folk need to chill in da lounge, listen to some sounds and chill............:smoke:
bou x

Lionhawk

12-12-2009, 08:24 PM

Thanks! :zip:

sloper

12-12-2009, 08:32 PM

Maybe somehow I have missed it, but have you ever talked about your abduction experience in more detail Bill? I know you were taken from a tent in the Himalayans. Can you tell us anymore? Or, perhaps Kerry could interview you on the subject. If you want to talk about it, I'm positive EVERYONE would love to hear more.

Seashore

12-12-2009, 08:39 PM

The latest to come from Ott is that he wrote to his list that [paraphrase] he believes that we are indeed part of the other 1960s Project Camelot (as reported for a few days by Rense in August). That tells us a little about how good a researcher he is.

Bill,

This is news to me. I'm not familiar with Ott's list. Does he have a blog? Or is this information available to everyone?

I remember Rense posting the article that must have come from Burisch's camp. And I have thought that Rense thought the article was really about the Army's Project Camelot...

By the way, I can now answer your earlier question re the source of my information that Clif High had put a Private Investigator...

For the record, this was not my question.

Phtha

12-12-2009, 08:41 PM

Hi bill,
I just finished reading the transcripts of the latest interview with the scientology whistle blower. The interview certainly opened up a new perspective on things for me that I think is well worth careful consideration. Thanks!

If what is said is true, and there really are methods of creating total recall in people 100% of the time, which I have no reason to doubt, then I would think this is some of the most important information to get out to the public. In that latest video where you were being interviewed (can't recall the name offhand), you mentioned stuff about remembering. If your unaware, you might be interested to know that Giordano Bruno (1548-1600) (http://www.esotericarchives.com/bruno/) wrote a book titled "The Art of Remembering" Before being burned at the stake. I have not been able to find a copy of that book in english, but his other writings are quite amazing.

Kerry mentioned that she has a copies of a few books, Scientologie, and The Factors. Any way of getting these online assuming they are digital form? I've done a search of the www and nothing came up yet. (aside from 'official' scientology stuff)

Also it is my understand from the interview that Hubbard's 1950's book Dianetics (http://www.amazon.com/Dianetics-Modern-Science-Mental-Health/dp/088404632X) explains the methods to obtain total recall, is this correct?

I've really had this nagging feeling from my heart now for sometime that I'm to suppose to remember something, but I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm suppose to do. Any help would be appreciated.

Aztar

12-12-2009, 09:35 PM

GoingToFast

We got it, your very disappointed.
Can we move on or do we need to break the sexual orientation political correctness soapbox into small pieces and have a nice campfire so we can all roast marshmallows and sing Kum ba yah.

Moving right along,where were we again?
Oh ya Questions for Bill

Hey Bill

I agree I think it would be cool to have an Interview with a Mayan descendant since non Mayans keep messing up the message hehe

Ixopoborn

12-12-2009, 10:08 PM

Thanks Bill for all you do to help build support for the many important tasks ahead. Opening the forum can only help hasten the process. I have attended one of your conferences which I have to say was great. I keep up with unfolding developments via the internet including the Camelot site and am beginning to achieve a rounded understanding albeit still quite shallow campared to you and Kerry. I want to deepen my understanding and play a part helping the positive changes which I am sure we all crave. What should an "experienced novice" like me do next?

carriblu

12-12-2009, 11:42 PM

THE eXchanger

12-12-2009, 11:46 PM

yup, in part of my last processes
i utilised rudiments-and, found 2 incidents
utilising an x-scientologist person-a friend of gnosis5
someone kind of free-zone, i think
and, i discovered 2 incidents
1- from age 17, and, one at age 32, that still had charge
and, after getting rid of them, we went clear !!!
we understand why bill, and, gnosis5, like that sort of thing !!!
it works !!!

Keep up the good work Bill and, Kerrie...
you are both doing a marvelous job !!!

namasté
susan