Controlled auto-implosion of Avalon Forum?

[artvision]

Judging after the new trend of posting subjects lately, where the quantity is not matched by the quality, also the fact that the new posters don't even bother themselves with a minimal check if there a similar trend opened just before them, the apparent benefit of having many contributing minds, seems much overwhelmed by "noise" brought in.

Something like a Denial-Of-Sesrvice Attack on the disseminating and processing capacity of our forum, by issue like "I'm sure there is not other conspiracy, but that of greed for money", and such.

I'm just wondering if this late "liberalization" of forum, wasn't just an insidious maneuver to auto-implode the AVALON FORUM, ordered by TPTB?

[burgundia]

Crossed my mind too...

[Luminari]

Judging after the new trend of posting subjects lately, where the quantity is not matched by the quality, also the fact that the new posters don't even bother themselves with a minimal check if there a similar trend opened just before them, the apparent benefit of having many contributing minds, seems much overwhelmed by "noise" brought in.

Something like a Denial-Of-Sesrvice Attack on the disseminating and processing capacity of our forum, by issue like "I'm sure there is not other conspiracy, but that of greed for money", and such.

I'm just wondering if this late "liberalization" of forum, wasn't just an insidious maneuver to auto-implode the AVALON FORUM, ordered by TPTB?

No just paranoia, :roll1:

The forum is always disappointing in some regard but opening it back up is wonderful.

You are right that people need to support whomever was the first person that posted that topic or news story instead of competing.
Use the search function or just look at the days posts.

We are never going to agree, which is the fun part but at least if we co-operate more to make the discussions more dynamic we might gain more insights anyway.

[joe2288]

There will always be intel ops either posting or just surfing through this website

that is a definite. ive seen them in here before they post things like "why are we

here" asking people why they joined avalon. and there beliefs and so on. I don't

they'll try and shut us down because this place is a hub for conspiracy theories

and if you were a gov't op and wanted to know the lastest theories out there

the first place you would come is here.

[Stargazer1965]

Then we just have to put more effort and more focus.....it'll all sort out

[artvision]

No just paranoia, :roll1:

The forum is always disappointing in some regard but opening it back up is wonderful.

You are right that people need to support whomever was the first person that posted that topic or news story instead of competing.
Use the search function or just look at the days posts.

We are never going to agree, which is the fun part but at least if we co-operate more to make the discussions more dynamic we might gain more insights anyway.

Yes, very good initiative that of using first the search feature and just after giving our contribution inside in an already created thread, if there is any, with our post, idea or whatever. Just starting 30 new threads for just same issue will just dissipate our atention and focus! :nono:

[artvision]

Then we just have to put more effort and more focus.....it'll all sort out

Yes stargazer, would be nice, but can you ask effort and focus in front of the impetuousness and eagerness of those new on forum? I remember myself then, I just want to communicate, to be a part of it. Just I always use the feature of New Post search, even the most of the forum features, I acknowledge I'm quite illiterate :original:

[artvision]

There will always be intel ops either posting or just surfing through this website

that is a definite. ive seen them in here before they post things like "why are we

here" asking people why they joined avalon. and there beliefs and so on. I don't

they'll try and shut us down because this place is a hub for conspiracy theories

and if you were a gov't op and wanted to know the lastest theories out there

the first place you would come is here.

Very interesting things you say, joe2288! :thumb_yello:

Can you make a detailed summary about these issues? I think would be very informative for us! Represent information about "them". They know everything about us, we know close to nothing about them. I we want to not be defeated we must to reverse the ratio!

[gibonos]

Hello All.

I joined just before they opened the forum again.
I like the dynamix now, but I too see many pointless discussons, e.g. Tiger Woods :-) (forgive me Steve A :-))
The answer to all of this is be non compliant, and don't pay attention, don't feed the beast. Moderators should maybe merge threads, to loosen up firts page.
It's us the readers who participate in creating many threads, just by increasing the amount of views, others then think it's worth checking, visious circle.
By now most of us should discern just by reading thread names.

Although there might be second look to it and whether we like it or not the compresion of time, the quickening or however you want to call it is happening and there is nothing we can do about it, just observe and learn quicker :-)

gibonos

[FIIISH]

I'm just wondering if this late "liberalization" of forum, wasn't just an insidious maneuver to auto-implode the AVALON FORUM, ordered by TPTB?

Since this decision was ultimately made by Bill and Kerry, are you saying
they have been pressured into this by another entity?

I don't see it.

There are both benefits and compromises to opening the forum up, and
as such we are seeing both.

[GaiaLove]

The decision was made solely on the fact that the revenue generated by the pay to post implementation was not even close to what is required by Bill and Kerry to cover operational costs.
Therefore in the interest of expanding the ground crew network the forum was made free to post once again. New ways to generate revenue for the projects are in the works. As always people can still donate.

No conspiracy, sorry to disappoint :)

[Majorion]

There will always be intel ops either posting or just surfing through this website

that is a definite.

Hi joe,

I've been on many many forums like this one, and on all of these forums you'll encounter a certain amount of suspicious characters, in my experience, sometimes there are just your regular debunker types and angry people, and sometimes there are serious disinformationists, but ultimately the flow of information cannot be stopped. Maybe it can be skewed, pushed, challenged, obscured, etc. But it can never be stopped. And to be honest, I find that Avalon is probably the most open and 'least debunker' forum I've ever been to, so far.

Cheers

[artvision]

There are both benefits and compromises to opening the forum up, and
as such we are seeing both.


We will see. Only the time will show!

[rhythm]

the more open the better let us
free ourselfes up... to the great
tapestry called life .. a free for all
just try to keep up ...:naughty:

[artvision]

No conspiracy, sorry to disappoint :)

That's good news. At least this not be conspiracy on a conspiracy forum!:naughty:

[joe2288]

Yes i agree avalon is something special, Why? becasue we have the most awake

people on the planet contributing in this forum you can't lie and argue with

people who know the truth. it wont get you anywhere and most disinfo agents

know that so they don't waste there time here. We do still have intel agents

which regularly monitor this site but i think most people know this so it's not big

news the only thing we have to really worry about is know that avalon is a open

site it will be easier for agents to attack, because u dont need a bank

account to contribute (which can be traced back to govt) all you need is

an email

[777 The Great Work]

Judging after the new trend of posting subjects lately, where the quantity is not matched by the quality, also the fact that the new posters don't even bother themselves with a minimal check if there a similar trend opened just before them, the apparent benefit of having many contributing minds, seems much overwhelmed by "noise" brought in.

Something like a Denial-Of-Sesrvice Attack on the disseminating and processing capacity of our forum, by issue like "I'm sure there is not other conspiracy, but that of greed for money", and such.

I'm just wondering if this late "liberalization" of forum, wasn't just an insidious maneuver to auto-implode the AVALON FORUM, ordered by TPTB?

:original:

[morguana]

the more open the better let us
free ourselfes up... to the great
tapestry called life .. a free for all
just try to keep up ...:naughty:

absolutly rhythm, its a fab move forward and brings so much more to the forum.

it might be nice for all members to help each other intergrate and find balance
bou x

[orthodoxymoron]

I used to think more in terms of 'us' and 'them'. Now I mostly think in terms of 'us'. Who knows who is lurking in the shadows...and who knows what the hidden agendas are? All I know is that everyone can learn from everyone...and that includes alphabet-agents, disinfolk, reps, and greys. I do think that the plug can be pulled at any time...for a variety of reasons. Many eyes are watching...24/7.

[Dantheman62]

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[artvision]

.....

I would expected, to see a few big heads with large black eyes, at least Photoshopped if any... :lmfao:

[Connecting with Sauce]

Glad to see it is eventually opened back up to the public... shame it took a long time to realise this, almost a year. Some of us who have been here since the start wish it had happened sooner... I even today today skype chatted to someone I met from avalon at a conference that it was now free and we both agreed it went down hill the moment it was pay per view... I hope it gets back to the free flowing info it had on here originally a year ago... and we get some great posters and keep those here who like wise stuck it out too...

I'm glad it is now free, I'm keeping my fingers crossed it will return to the kind of site it was and look forward to the lightwarrior site's opening...

I know I've learnt a lot from avalon in the last year I just feel it could have helped more had it stayed free... One of life's lessons I suppose :)

ps I hope it doesn't implode...

[King Lear]

Avalon will rise again!



:king:

[ramallamamama]

Don't talk about DMT or former DEA worker Agent X will shut down the forum again.

[Ross H]

Don't talk about DMT or former DEA worker Agent X will shut down the forum again.

First read the guidelines! and use some commonsense.

The server is located in CA, USA.(think about it) Discussions about illegal substances, that engage in 'manufacturing, producing, selling, advise as to purchasing, ect, they can SHUT this forum down if they so wish! without warning.

Discussing other aspects of substances are fine: eg: medicinal/spiritual/fabrication (Hemp) ect. Again...commonsense.

Freedom of speech is an illusion...as in 'total freedom of speech'
It has never existed, It has always been controlled, so, in the meantime, until things change, and they may not, we use our brains... to our best advantage...to exchange information/views, and keep up our own energy in a positive manner.

These are exciting times, We have never had so much info avaliable, beit dis-info in some cases, but we are all use to that. Many have, and are, waking up.
This is wonderful news and I embraced it with EXCITMENT and ponder the magnificants of it all. Enjoy, ponder, continplate, its all a game you know...playing it with strategy is a wise move.

Peace.:original:

[GoingToFast]

Judging after the new trend of posting subjects lately, where the quantity is not matched by the quality, also the fact that the new posters don't even bother themselves with a minimal check if there a similar trend opened just before them, the apparent benefit of having many contributing minds, seems much overwhelmed by "noise" brought in.

Something like a Denial-Of-Sesrvice Attack on the disseminating and processing capacity of our forum, by issue like "I'm sure there is not other conspiracy, but that of greed for money", and such.

I'm just wondering if this late "liberalization" of forum, wasn't just an insidious maneuver to auto-implode the AVALON FORUM, ordered by TPTB?



Do you realize that you are , in your last sentence , accusing Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy of being "Agents of the Dark Forces" - You do know that it is their Forum don't you, and that it was them who opened-up the forum again?

What you feel as being "Noise" is actually what I feel as being "OTHER OPINIONS" and that is something that we MUST ACCEPT.

[ramallamamama]

First read the guidelines! and use some commonsense.

The server is located in CA, USA.(think about it) Discussions about illegal substances, that engage in 'manufacturing, producing, selling, advise as to purchasing, ect, they can SHUT this forum down if they so wish! without warning.

Discussing other aspects of substances are fine: eg: medicinal/spiritual/fabrication (Hemp) ect. Again...commonsense.

Freedom of speech is an illusion...as in 'total freedom of speech'
It has never existed, It has always been controlled, so, in the meantime, until things change, and they may not, we use our brains... to our best advantage...to exchange information/views, and keep up our own energy in a positive manner.

These are exciting times, We have never had so much info avaliable, beit dis-info in some cases, but we are all use to that. Many have, and are, waking up.
This is wonderful news and I embraced it with EXCITMENT and ponder the magnificants of it all. Enjoy, ponder, continplate, its all a game you know...playing it with stratergy is a wise move.

Peace.:original:

My apologies for not using the sarcasm emoticon.

Peace.

[nagual]

also the fact that the new posters don't even bother themselves with a minimal check if there a similar trend opened just before them

this is true and really annoy me...

[Ross H]

this is true and really annoy me...


Tolerence and understanding towards 'New Posters' is an important part of 'community spirit'

You can help them, by pointing out that there is another similiar thread, and it's best to do a thread check first' with a nice helpful attitude.

This is a much more productive way to bring them up to speed. Not all New Posters are comfortable with they're ability to navigate they're way around, some just need a helpful hand. Dont you think?

Peace always:original:

[Phr0z3n]

Yet another example of people resisting change when it happens. They changed the forums back?!?!? ZOMG! Now we'll actually have more people and ideas floating around further enhance the goal of this forum if I'm not mistaken.

While I can't deny that some people lack basic forum searching skills...a grain of salt(or three or four even) should be taken by some of the more senior members when interacting with similar threads created by the newer users. They are not trying to impose on your thread nor are they trying to 1up anyone else. They are simply trying to share the information with everyone else like everyone else is trying to do.

God forbid you take the higher road and explain to them the search function or maybe just take the 5 seconds and link the pre-existing thread.

This is a great forum started by great people. Sorry OP but I really doubt that this forum is on its way to auto-implosion. Not to mention...isn't getting to know why people joined an important way to maybe discover like-minded people so you know who you would like to have in your neck of the woods when the sh*t hits the fan?

[nagual]

Yet another example of people resisting change when it happens.

i'm not resisting any change, and you can't make up this conclusion from my post...

[Phr0z3n]

Nagual, I apologize if my post was misinterpreted by you. It was not directed at your post at all. I was simply stating my opinion of how people treat change when it occurs. Sorry for any confusion.

[morguana]

Tolerence and understanding towards 'New Posters' is an important part of 'community spirit'

You can help them, by pointing out that there is another similiar thread, and it's best to do a thread check first' with a nice helpful attitude.

This is a much more productive way to bring them up to speed. Not all New Posters are comfortable with they're ability to navigate they're way around, some just need a helpful hand. Dont you think?

Peace always:original:

spot on jross, we were all new once and need a helping hand now and again. that way people can be intergrated in a positive and heartfelt way.

its good to remember that even though we cant see each other and chat over a glass of vino, we still have a responsability to act as though we are.
much love to you all
bou x

[nagual]

Nagual, I apologize if my post was misinterpreted by you. It was not directed at your post at all. I was simply stating my opinion of how people treat change when it occurs. Sorry for any confusion.


:wub2:

[Majorion]

isn't getting to know why people joined an important way to maybe discover like-minded people so you know who you would like to have in your neck of the woods when the sh*t hits the fan?

Its always great to meet like-minded people. In fact on Avalon I find more like-minded people here than on most other forums. However also meeting persons totally different is the far more interesting part in my opinion, because I would enjoy being enlightened by new perspectives rather than endlessly attempting to validate my own beliefs by listening only to one group. Which is not a bad thing, but so long as someone can present a new paradigm to me is much better.

Peace, :original: :smoke:

[artvision]

Do you realize that you are , in your last sentence , accusing Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy of being "Agents of the Dark Forces" - You do know that it is their Forum don't you, and that it was them who opened-up the forum again?

What you feel as being "Noise" is actually what I feel as being "OTHER OPINIONS" and that is something that we MUST ACCEPT.

Heeey why you jump so high? GoingToFast for me!

I'm not accusing anyone of nothing as you sneakily trying to imply, hold your horses there; it is enough hysteria on forum already.

I was thinking that maybe TPTB forced their hand into accepting to open the forum for TPTB to infiltrate some trolls and dysinfo agents, along the honest posters that be and maybe they thought losing the forum is the steep but necessary price to pay, to let be into continuing the disclosure project, which is more important for humanity than a forum.

Tell me is this so impossible, so unthinkable? If you re so limited thinking, really, I'm wondering, what your looking after into such out-of-the-box thinking forum?

Or maybe, there is just to prepare the grounds for new whistleblowers which want to remain totally anonymous. There will be created "noise" and between the "noise" will be injected something of value. Are you understanding what I'm saying? I'm not implying anything just I put myself some questions.

This is why I said: only the time will show!

[Humble Janitor]

Hello All.

I joined just before they opened the forum again.
I like the dynamix now, but I too see many pointless discussons, e.g. Tiger Woods :-) (forgive me Steve A :-))
The answer to all of this is be non compliant, and don't pay attention, don't feed the beast. Moderators should maybe merge threads, to loosen up firts page.
It's us the readers who participate in creating many threads, just by increasing the amount of views, others then think it's worth checking, visious circle.
By now most of us should discern just by reading thread names.

Although there might be second look to it and whether we like it or not the compresion of time, the quickening or however you want to call it is happening and there is nothing we can do about it, just observe and learn quicker :-)

gibonos

Yeah I think that Tiger Woods is the least of our concerns and I dislike that so many people are making fun of his situation, at least on other forums.

I think we should avoid becoming a forum that promotes gossip about celebrities.

[artvision]

Crossed my mind too...

Sorry dear Burgundia,

I had he intent to answer you, but get taken by so many waves lately!

See the latest developments?

[artvision]

Yeah I think that Tiger Woods is the least of our concerns and I dislike that so many people are making fun of his situation, at least on other forums.

I think we should avoid becoming a forum that promotes gossip about celebrities.

I totally agree with HJ. He has right!

Is an utterly nonsense to discuss about something is created by TPTB, just in purpose to create smoke and mirrors. Is just that TPTB wants! This denotes lack of brains!

[burgundia]

See the latest developments?

way too well...:naughty:

[artvision]

way too well...:naughty:

:lmao:

We did often discuss viruses, for humans, for animals, for computers.

I'm wondering if we would to discuss for forums, what would it be?

By the way, seems that our imunitary systems are waaaaaaaay overwhelmed! :lol3:

[artvision]

People, still not convinced for where we are heading?

Even after the last events in the Avalon Forum?

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18186


and many moooooooooooooooore!

[Anchor]

Constructive criticism is welcome.

The forum is what it is.

- closed -

[artvision]

Constructive criticism is welcome.

The forum is what it is.

- closed -

A last, bitter remark:

I have no big truths to revealed, it was just a forum blabbering, but imagine what is happening with those that they have really important truths to reveal!

Do you imagine, you poor souls, that by any means those whistleblower are telling the TRUTH here in PC or PA, or they are just saying a convenient "truth".

Reflect to this forum anecdote, when you are dealing with a big "revelation" here or wherever!

I want no one to answer to this thread anymore, be it closed as "they" want to be closed, just to keep within you, the feeling for freedom of speech and truth revealing!

I'm very convinced what will be the outcome from this :zip:

[burgundia]

Do you imagine, you poor souls, that by any means those whistleblower are telling the TRUTH here in PC or PA, or they are just saying a convenient "truth".



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Let everybody keep it in mind!!!

[Anchor]

I'm sorry - it was an error of judgement. It happens. Thats why we have a team. The team did the right thing.

At the time it was your links to current hotspots and drawing extra attention to problems we are trying to work with that bothered me, and you keep bumping your own thread - which didnt help.

So sorry.

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