WHY 90% of People WILL take the Mark of the Beast

[QUESTINY]

I will tell you exactly how they are going to get 90% of the population to demand they get it. Remember Order out of Chaos. The Powers that Be (TPTB) will point out that the only way to truly get rid of Terrorism we must get rid of CASH. No person or company in their right mind would fund a terrorist organization using a credit card. TPTB will tell you that the War on Drugs can only be won by getting rid of CASH. No one is going to buy a gram of coke using their ATM card. They will tell you illegal arms (including nuclear) running can be eliminated if you get rid of CASH. No country is going to buy weapons to fight proxy wars using credit cards. TBTB will tell you all these problems will be eliminated and everyone will be better off without CASH. It will save the government so much money because they won't have to print more money and store it, ship it, protect it, have agencies dedicated to counting it and even burning the old bills. They will tell you the taxes on it will go down because of the money being saved can now be used for other things, like schools and free health care.

This will all happen AFTER everyone is tired of living in fear and things are so chaotic that they will accept any good idea and CHANGE that comes their way.

What are your thoughts?

[THE eXchanger]

the mark, is already going into passports/drivers licenses,
and, the cell phone that you carry !!!

if you have on-star in your car,
or, something like that,
you already have it

if you file an income tax return,
they know where you live,
so, it is NOT all that hard to find you

develop "the mark" in "yourself"
that, when they find you,
or, remote view you

that you stand out,
in a way in which,
they are NOT likely to think about bothering you
or, messing with you

send out a message,
loud and clear, that you will NOT be,
messed with...
and, learn the fine art of
protect/protect/protect

they do NOT have to put this mark into you

if you have any of the above things,
you are part of their system,
and, it is pretty hard, to live in this world,
without a passport, driver's license,
and, in some countries,
they are NOT very co-operate with you,
if you do NOT file, an income tax return.

some of your taxes, do go for good things

although originally,
it was designed, as, a war debt type of tax,
that continued on,
without any congress votes (in the usa)
to back it up

brightest blessings of energy, light and love

susan
white lotus star
the eXchanger

[Kris Riley]

My thoughts about the mark of the beast. I think it's really just the system that is set up already. Everyone is in it. Anyone who is paying for goods within the money system is taking the mark. It's already been implemented. The next faze will be the rfid, but not everyone will subscribe to it and people will fight tooth and nail to avoid this setup, I have a hard time believing that people will give up their religious faith in such a way. Everyone knows this rfid is the mark. It's too easy to see. Now credit cards and bank cards are numbers and just as easy to track as rfid. Pretty good diversion. Keep everyone looking at a future plan while the real plan is working fine.

[Phtha]

That could be fore sure. I also think that, when the time comes, anyone who doesn't accept the chip will be labeled a terrorist.
They are already turning the minds of many against anyone who even questions something the government does now.

I think the Amero will come before the chips come. And also they will make it so you can't buy anything without the chip.

But I'm an optimist and I don't see it getting this far. I feel the nwo is on the way out.
For sure stuff is going very bad for them right now. To many people have caught on, more and more every single minute of every day.

I'm looking forward to the calm after the storm. :trumpet:

[OceanWinds]

If it comes down to having to be chipped, I will do it.

[Phtha]

If it comes down to having to be chipped, I will do it.

I'm sorry to hear that. :sad:

If they do manage to push the chipping agenda there will always be a way to survive without needing to get implanted. "Having to be chipped" will be all depend on how prepared you are to deal with what will happen if you don't.

GL!

[Pithiny]

One way or another, the Almighty Dollar is going Bye-Bye, I believe that's when the real test of our strength, preparation and unity will begin.

God Bless Us, and Us...Ourselves.

[MMe M]

Cash can be (and indeed is) tracked also. Cash has serial numbers as well as magnetic strips that can be scanned like a credit card. Anyway, terrorists don't have any money. That's why they are terrorists.


Not true. The Bush family is loaded, so is cheney, and the list goes on and on. Being evil seems to pay well these days.

[Peter]

I agree with Phtha we have to be positive as David Wilcox says also. How are we the awoken going to help to convert the unaware if we can't guide them towards are more positive future. The NWO is crumbling before our very eyes we won't be chipped willingly nor forcefully, thats where my money is.

[CosmicFever]

I believe one point that we may be overlooking is the mind control element. The folks in this forum are less likely to cave in due to the fact that we are AWARE. Let's say this Blue Beam project is real. They will be decieving a large proportion of our population. Most Catholics don't even know the prophecies because they are discouraged from even reading their bibles. Other religions just don't believe in it period. People are going to do whatever their clergy advices them to do. Let's not forget that Billy Graham is a 33rd degree Freemason. Yep, people will take it and I'm betting it's a chip. At least that's what Nick Rockefeller told Aaron Russo was the ultimate goal. This "everybody's got to be digital on February 18, 2009" is part of it. These evil minions are fullfilling bible prophecy because they wrote the script. Fear will cause people to do just about anything.

peace,
cosmic:lightsabre:

[ARE WE THERE YET]

I Agree Cosmic..,I Agree

They wrote the movie, there are the lead actors ., but we can refuse to watch it.

[OceanWinds]

I really dont care if I am chipped... because there is no way that chip can control spirit. I only see it possibly having influence on those who are unconscious of their actions. Much like haarp.

This chip is only a tool... it can be used positively or negatively. But if you choose to be afraid of it, and give it the power to control your life... then be prepared for the consequences of those agreements.

[ophiuchus]

what happens if you've purchased silver or gold and the government outlaws its' possession? or, how do you transport it? or,where do you keep it? $50,ooo in silver dollars is over 100 bags that are very heavy.sounds like this conceipt needs more thought.

[scanner]

:mad3: Hi it's already here as discribed earlier passport driving licence credit card debit card ect .However they force it on to us we have to use there technology to live our lives and so we cannot reject it BUT THE CREATOR NOWS WHAT IS IN YOUR HEARTS , "Jesus said the truth will set you free "what is in your heart ??? LOVE AND FAMILY ARE ALL THAT MATTER:thumb_yello:

[JSErwine]

what happens if you've purchased silver or gold and the government outlaws its' possession? or, how do you transport it? or,where do you keep it? $50,ooo in silver dollars is over 100 bags that are very heavy.sounds like this conceipt needs more thought.


Convert most the silver to gold, wish I had this problem:roll1:

[Norval]

There is that saying about, , , "they will throw their riches in the streets in the last days." :shocked:

Then again it could be your trust in earthly governments that will be ones downfall, instead of trusting in the Government of the Galaxies that is about to unfold. :wink2:

Just thinking. :original:

[uniconr]

I really dont care if I am chipped... because there is no way that chip can control spirit. I only see it possibly having influence on those who are unconscious of their actions. Much like haarp.


obviously the specifics of the technology are unknown to me, but i seriously doubt their only purpose would be to store your credit information and identity. i see potential for electric shock at the push of a button, or possibly disruption of the bodys electromagnetic fields, maybe it would emit low levels of radiation, or maybe high levels of radiation, it will certainly have more functions than we will be told it does, im certain they will not be benign. also i believe that for now, body and spirit are inextricable.
there is no way i will consent to a chip inside my body

[arcora]

Why 100% will take the mark of the beast.

It won't be optional.

If you resist, you will be physically restrained.

If you evade, you will not be able to buy food.

If you stay in one place long enough to hunt or grow food - they will find you.

This is why Revelation states that those who take the mark AND worship the beast will receive thet wrath of God.

[dolphin]

questiny

i agree. but how do you prevent them from chipping us? to those who talked about "positive thinking", yes i agree where thoughts go, energy flows. and i want to put positive energy out there, but all the positive thinking and being in a buble of light is not stopping them from their ultimate plan unless the majority of people wake up. look, they've already succeeded at crashing the US economy, the dollar, and now the amero will soon be introduced. i also read billy meier's predictions from the pleidaians, also from barbara marciniak, who's source come from the pleidians, that the chip will be implimented. unless these elites and the corporatocracy no longer exist, we will be free. i just don't see that happening right now. i understand the elites will eventually be gone, but it's these few next years, which makes me cringe.

you can't just stay in hiding, you have to live your life to the fullest...then where is "safe"?????

the chip isn't just to "track" you. i understand the chip will be able to send electromagnetic frequencies to your brain to "dull" the mind, similar to the brain waves, i believe it's theta when you watch tv. i'll post the link on an interview i saw later. can't find it now--it's on concisous media network, a specialist in this field goes in to detail of the rfid chip.

[dolphin]

oh, here it is on rfid chipping. great interview. he's a specialist. dr. nick begich from CONSCIOUS MEDIA NETWORK,
(you may have to log in as a new member, but all the interviews are so well done. they interview leading scientists, healers, spiritual, etc )

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/nbegich3.htm

[QUESTINY]

what happens if you've purchased silver or gold and the government outlaws its' possession? or, how do you transport it? or,where do you keep it? $50,ooo in silver dollars is over 100 bags that are very heavy.sounds like this conceipt needs more thought.


The government won't do that again. That tactic failed miserable. If they tried it again it wouldn't work. If you would rather carry a promise of $50,000 in silver (the paper debt) I'll sell you the paper for the silver. Sell me all your silver and I'll give you a ETF showing how much I am holding of your Silver. That way you can have a lighter load. Send me a Private Message. I will buy all you have and give you the paper in return. Also, thank you for giving me the opportunity to manipulate the market by using a debt instrument instead of the actual Silver.

[QUESTINY]

:mad3: Hi it's already here as discribed earlier passport driving licence credit card debit card ect .However they force it on to us we have to use there technology to live our lives and so we cannot reject it BUT THE CREATOR NOWS WHAT IS IN YOUR HEARTS , "Jesus said the truth will set you free "what is in your heart ??? LOVE AND FAMILY ARE ALL THAT MATTER:thumb_yello:

The problem that I have outlined is you still have the freedom to use CASH. The Powers that Be cannot track your spending habits. You can still refuse to use your cards. Hence the original thread post.

[QUESTINY]

There is that saying about, , , "they will throw their riches in the streets in the last days." :shocked:

Then again it could be your trust in earthly governments that will be ones downfall, instead of trusting in the Government of the Galaxies that is about to unfold. :wink2:

Just thinking. :original:

I like your thought Norval. Maybe it means that people will realize their possessions have zero value. Their love for each other, family and growth are the most valuable thing in the Universe.

[QUESTINY]

obviously the specifics of the technology are unknown to me, but i seriously doubt their only purpose would be to store your credit information and identity. i see potential for electric shock at the push of a button, or possibly disruption of the bodys electromagnetic fields, maybe it would emit low levels of radiation, or maybe high levels of radiation, it will certainly have more functions than we will be told it does, im certain they will not be benign. also i believe that for now, body and spirit are inextricable.
there is no way i will consent to a chip inside my body

Wow a lot of great ideas in this thread. Thank you everyone. Did you know the dye they use in the new colored money has a very low radiation level that effects the electromagnetic field of the human body? The low radiation is not due to the RFID chip.

[Norval]

This will cause the "Black Markets" to rise again.

[THE eXchanger]

Just thinking. :original:

yeah, it iS when you go beyond the thoughts...

that, your whole mind, gets to go on a parade

it is great when that happens

the eyes actually "shine" and, they "twinkle"

yours eyes norval,
have an eXceptional shinging and twinkling to them

it's great when people do NOT hide behind avators ;)

brightest blessings of energy, light 'n love

susan
the eXchanger

[QUESTINY]

questiny

i agree. but how do you prevent them from chipping us? to those who talked about "positive thinking", yes i agree where thoughts go, energy flows. and i want to put positive energy out there, but all the positive thinking and being in a buble of light is not stopping them from their ultimate plan unless the majority of people wake up. look, they've already succeeded at crashing the US economy, the dollar, and now the amero will soon be introduced. i also read billy meier's predictions from the pleidaians, also from barbara marciniak, who's source come from the pleidians, that the chip will be implimented. unless these elites and the corporatocracy no longer exist, we will be free. i just don't see that happening right now. i understand the elites will eventually be gone, but it's these few next years, which makes me cringe.

you can't just stay in hiding, you have to live your life to the fullest...then where is "safe"?????

the chip isn't just to "track" you. i understand the chip will be able to send electromagnetic frequencies to your brain to "dull" the mind, similar to the brain waves, i believe it's theta when you watch tv. i'll post the link on an interview i saw later. can't find it now--it's on concisous media network, a specialist in this field goes in to detail of the rfid chip.

By far one of the most important questions in this thread. You need to understand from their point of view. They have given you this life. They give you your food, your shelter, your transportation, your communication venue. They cannot believe you would want to fight them. You have free will. Why don't you use it? Take back responsibility. Why don't you grow your own food? Build you own home? Walk or ride a bike? Talk to someone face to face instead of through their channels created, controlled and viewed by them. From their point of view they can do whatever they want and 90% of the people will do it willingly. It's not so much because we are lazy as it is psychological. Everyone else is stuck in this matrix so maybe it ain't so bad. This is their outlook on it. We depend on them to make our life easier. We want to be entertained, they give us entertainment. All they want in return is our power. Our devotion. They think we are animals because they feel they give us so much and yet we are never satisfied. That unsatification is what gets them paranoid and they implement new control measures. They are addicted to our energy that we give them freely.

Many people won't take the chip. I hope it will be at least 10% of the population. This may be enough to show The Powers that they have gone to far. This may be enough to shut them down for good and for us to take our rightful place in the Universe, uncontrolled and spiritually free. If this scenario happens they will be great upheaval and social chaos. In the end we will be better off. Everything happening at once (economy/war/famine) is part of a race to the top. We don't need very many people to stand up and say no more. Look at the housing crisis, less than 2% of loans are in default or foreclosure and the house of cards is collapsing. If 10% of the people refused to get shipped imagine what that would do. The Powers that Be who implement these control structures will be hauled out in public and destroyed. This is their biggest fear.

[Swamisalami]

I think them RFID-chips are already nano-size. They can spray them with the chemtrails so everybody will absorb them when breathing. You won't even notice it when they are in your body.

The other chips in driverlicencies and ID-cards can be taken care of with the good old hammer or one of those strong neodym magnets.

Cards for money is the biggest problem. If you wack or magnetise those you're out of money.

In the Netherlands "the system" already advertises on the TV to also pay with cards for the smallest amounts. The net is closing slowly............

[Avid]

I am (almost) only using cash now, but have to get it through ATM somehow. Less trips. More stash at home (oh dear).
I never use a cellphone unless for emergencies - use ancient analogue dial phone at home. Good if power down.
I cannot understand the people who wander around constantly connected to their friends throughout their everyday life via a cellphone. Nonetheless - I am here frequently, what's in that for me? Bad computer vibes? (No WiFi - hard-wired).
Will now limit my time on my computer, but ain't that just what 'they' want?:lightsabre:

[granny]

Questiny ...

I did not know that (radiation) about the colored money. Just another way to try and sicken us? Figures.

I did hear something about there being a difference in the older and the colored money in the future collapse of the dollar, but darned if I can remember what was said.

Has anyone heard anything on this?

Gran

[Myra]

[QUOTE=Swamisalami;] I think them RFID-chips are already nano-size. They can spray them with the chemtrails so everybody will absorb them when breathing. You won't even notice it when they are in your body........

I've heard about this, this is a scary thought.:shocked:

[Zarathustra]

The problem that I have outlined is you still have the freedom to use CASH. The Powers that Be cannot track your spending habits. You can still refuse to use your cards. Hence the original thread post.

Hidden within the Bush "mortgage relief" bill recently passed by Congress was a provision that no one in Congress other than Ron Paul discussed. The provision dictated that ALL credit card transactions would be directly reported to the IRS. Questiny is right in foreseeing the attempt to eliminate cash. I sympathize with other posters saying that they won't get away with it. But believe that the plans to eliminate cash are in place, and it will be attempted.

[arcora]

Nano chips can only mark you as part of a group.

The chips that are coming will contain your complete identity, financial and health records.

[Katherine]

Hi all....

I've read in many websites that what they plan is to place a RFid chip in vaccines. It's like 1/10 (or smaller) of the diameter of a hair!! When the planned 'pandemic' occurs we'll be herded into stadiums where we will be quarantined and vaccinated. Refuse? Well, who knows? All I know is that vaccines are killers.

I've already gotten rid of my cellphone (landline only), all my teflon pans, my microwave - use a toaster oven instead, and my cable tv - so it's only a couple of local channels. I'm going to second hand stores to buy 'older' unchipped products if I need them (ie: cast iron pans etc.)

Also.....I recently had a thought that may or may not have credence. IF they start watching for people hoarding - wouldn't they be able to track ppl. if/when they use their credit cards or debit cards at stores to continually purphase larger than usual amounts of items? I try to use cash for whatever I buy.
Any thoughts?

Love and Light
K

[Lare]

I will tell you exactly how they are going to get 90% of the population to demand they get it. Remember Order out of Chaos. The Powers that Be (TPTB) will point out that the only way to truly get rid of Terrorism we must get rid of CASH. No person or company in their right mind would fund a terrorist organization using a credit card. TPTB will tell you that the War on Drugs can only be won by getting rid of CASH. No one is going to buy a gram of coke using their ATM card. They will tell you illegal arms (including nuclear) running can be eliminated if you get rid of CASH. No country is going to buy weapons to fight proxy wars using credit cards. TBTB will tell you all these problems will be eliminated and everyone will be better off without CASH. It will save the government so much money because they won't have to print more money and store it, ship it, protect it, have agencies dedicated to counting it and even burning the old bills. They will tell you the taxes on it will go down because of the money being saved can now be used for other things, like schools and free health care.

This will all happen AFTER everyone is tired of living in fear and things are so chaotic that they will accept any good idea and CHANGE that comes their way.

What are your thoughts?
I thought they wanted us on drugs, it makes there job easier.

[QUESTINY]

I thought they wanted us on drugs, it makes there job easier.

I am referring to illegal drugs not prescription drugs.
Almost 1/2 of America is on a prescription drug.

[Morgan]

I really dont care if I am chipped... because there is no way that chip can control spirit. I only see it possibly having influence on those who are unconscious of their actions. Much like haarp.

This chip is only a tool... it can be used positively or negatively. But if you choose to be afraid of it, and give it the power to control your life... then be prepared for the consequences of those agreements.

People have mostly already addressed this but I'm going to be more specific and say that each organ in your body has its own frequency/cycle rate (I can't remember if the proper term), eg. your brain has its own, your heart, liver, etc. And this chip can be used to impact those organ systems. It can be used to impact your thoughts. So the chip goes way beyond just personal data, or tracking.

I will not take the chip.

[edit]
And I just remembered reading recently that they had done studies with the chip implanted in people, and it actually causes cancer.

[dolphin]

questiny and katherine:

questiny, thanks so much for all your info...wow, you've been doing your research!

questiny i hope you are right, but do you really think that just 10% of the population will deter them of their plans? it will take more than 10% ...people do YOUR research.that's why we all have to tell our friends and family. it can grow exponentially. (i'm even worried about posting this, for fear of being put on a "list". ----the clock is ticking to get out. they hardly would bat an eye, they don't care what we think. we are cows and numbers to them. for god's sake look at the patriot act, the executive orders on martial law, the secret closed session in congress a few months ago. they have thousands of UN troops here already and have been planning for the unwilling people. (phil schneider, alex jones, david icke, and regular people like you and me who've been posting on youtube to warn people)... think about this, why would they build and finance (haliburten was paid recently 384.5 million to build more of) these insidious camps of fema if they didn't plan on using it? and what about those 500,000 coffins in georgia just sitting there stacked and waiting? you say my god, what are they going to use these for? when they round people up, in an "emergency" situation as katherine mentioned, to vaccinate or quaranteen, do you really think w armed UN troops, guns and all, you will be able to say "no" ???? if you refuse you will still be sent to one of their lovely camps.

you guys don't delude yourselves. get info and be safe.

[SINGLE]

Hello

The mark of the beast will be done by using RFID , ie. electromagnetic waves , i am trying to imagin what would happen if we get hit by solar flairs or even a dirty bomb or neuks ?

we will loose all our money icluding our IDs passport and driving licens .

also i thing it will open a golden age of hacking business in to your accounts ,like we see in blue tooth technology now , and it will spark the golden age of protection and security business as well.

you see ,here are some ideas for future economist to convince you that it will creat new jobs and industries , then it will be passed to congres and signd , then it will be a LAW (ie. you could be prosecuted and jailed if you dont have RFID chip installed in you body ), exactly like the old saying
(Dam you if you do , Dam you if you don't):biggrin2:

[ARE WE THERE YET]

1) The chip may be toxic and cause health issues
2) It may track you
3) It marks you as their slave
4) We have to agree to being chipped. It is a sign of agreement: if you do not agree ie free will, then you aren't really chipped and your spirit is not theirs but it will have health implications to your physical body.
5) without it you may not purchase or interact within the system that they own.
a system that will reguire you to do evil things.

Free will-you choose to live their way or the right way. united -peaceful -and in agreement with all.

[Antaletriangle]

Bearing in mind the theory of the bar code as the mark-not many of us are truly free from this as we speak!Even indigenous,tribal populations tend to have bar codes on foreign aid products when shipped in?

[AMA-GI]

People will be led to belive that the chip will be for their safety first of all.
This will due to an increase in terrorist activity. They will be led to believe that its for their own safety. Those who eventualy do not accept it will be branded as terrorists as they must have something to hide.

Knowledge is the answer here, but those who seek knoweldge are few.

How many US citizens pay income tax????? they dont even know that there is no law stating you have to pay it.

By the way, as far as i know the RFID chip does ommit a mind dulling frequency. Also i do know that it is trackable.

[eaglespirit]

Man oh man...I'm glad I was drawn to this thread this morn!
.......


People...Consciousness of Unconditional Love, Now!

Stop giving them Your energy...
in any way, shape or form You are able...
stop heading down their deceitful path...
use Your Own Free Will and free Yourself onto Your Own Divine Path!!

ALL non-ethical coercions and happenings are now imploding upon themselves all by themselves...
if it is NOT pure it will NOT fly anymore, period!
If they continue to deliver and live in hurtful intended deceit they will
begin to hurt themselves directly,
as in real physical pain, all by themselves...
and they will have the opportunity to shift to unconditional love...
more than once!

Simply move on and live in Your Own Love, period!

Be the best You...You can be!

Intentionally Co-Create with Great Spirit/Creator , Heart-Consciously...
and Spirit/Creator will be right there with You!

Love, Love, Love, Love, Love, Love, Love!

And yes...it is that simple...simply repeat it time and time again and all else will dissolve...NOW is the time as never before in "time" as we know it!

YOU are a Miracle...simply decide to live like One : )

[Kris Riley]

Man oh man...I'm glad I was drawn to this thread this morn!
.......


People...Consciousness of Unconditional Love, Now!

Stop giving them Your energy...


YOU are a Miracle...simply decide to live like One : )

I was just thinking of what to say and you said it.

[QUESTINY]

People have mostly already addressed this but I'm going to be more specific and say that each organ in your body has its own frequency/cycle rate (I can't remember if the proper term), eg. your brain has its own, your heart, liver, etc. And this chip can be used to impact those organ systems. It can be used to impact your thoughts. So the chip goes way beyond just personal data, or tracking.

I will not take the chip.

[edit]
And I just remembered reading recently that they had done studies with the chip implanted in people, and it actually causes cancer.

Thank you Morgan for your post.

[Captain Obvious]

Hello eaglespirit,

>People...Consciousness of Unconditional Love, Now!
>Stop giving them Your energy...
>in any way, shape or form You are able...
>stop heading down their deceitful path...
>use Your Own Free Will and free Yourself onto Your Own Divine Path!!

Telling people to stop doing something, and then 'use your own free will' doesn't make any sense.

From my perspective, this is a place where information and opinions are presented so that informed decisions can be made. I may not like decisions others make, but what I can do is to make a decision I'm comfortable with. If I were to say 'do this, but don't do that', even if the intentions were good, that would be controlling.

>and they will have the opportunity to shift to unconditional love...
>more than once!

To me that sounds like if someone shifts then they are on the one and only path, and I can't see the unconditional in that.

>Love, Love, Love, Love, Love, Love, Love! And yes...it is that
>simple...simply repeat it time and time again and all else will
>dissolve...

Been there, done that, didn't work, for me. I think there are lots of good thoughts roaming about, but still dominant forces continue their deeds.

[eaglespirit]

Hello eaglespirit,



Hi Captain Obvious..not "telling" anyone to do anything.

Use Your Own Free Will!

I am just "telling" what is in My Own Heart and putting it out there...these things of unconditional love ARE happening in my life...because I simply decided for them to happen nowso more than ever, allowing love to co-create every moment, no joke, no stretch!

PM me...I will talk and share from real personal experience.

We are the Ones we have been waiting for, period...end of story,
Beginning of New Loving Consciousness!

[THE eXchanger]

The Powers that Be

i do NOT call these people that

the powers (that think that they) be

that's what i call them

i say quit giving them names that empower them

they are merely a group of people who got together

and, own a monopoly on something,
that NO ONE else,
can own/or be a part of,
and, profits off the backs of everyone else

they certainly are NOT eagles/or hawks, or
even vultures ...
they are nothing more than a bunch of maggots

eagles/or hawks, take what they need,
and, place their discards, where something else,
can utlise it

vultures (are the good kings)
and, they let others take what they need,
and, then, eat what is left

(i always wondered, why this bird was around isis,
and, why the mayan, had so much respect for it,
yet, few really know, what a vulture is)

for a long time, we have lived as vultures...
and, let these crazy ill_uminati's play eagles/and, hawks

why do you think, the word dollar,
got the slang word, "buck"

to give something a buck,
is to give it a kick in the seat of its pants
& that's what these crazy ill's
are all about -- start drawing a capstone,
on the back of every us$ you can get your hands on,
send them a message, you know !!!

also, if you own pets who are chipped
(i have heard/and, seen many of them,
friends who have ended up with pets, that get cancer)
you do NOT want this chip, in anything

in a 3D world, keeping track, of people,
so, identity is NOT stolen, is necessary only,
because, there is NO trust -
& we have put a lot of our stuff
in trust, with the wrong people
into the wrong hands
for far too long

if we lived in the new world,
which i think, is already happening in some places,
to a much larger degree, than some of us,
might of actually believed, existed,
prior to the birth of this forum
at www.projectavalon.net

people are waking up...

if you look inside of your own inner circles,
it is quite evident,
that, those people do NOT steal from you
anymore, than, you would steal from them
(esp, since they have a heightened awarness)
& it is true, it is hard to carry large sums
in silver, a little easier in gold
(the richest thing you got, is your "original spark" or,
your spirit, they can NOT take that !!!
and, i know, i am sure, NOT going to take their mark.

Using their name, also gives them power
illuminati-it is a strong word
it could be a good idea, to stop empowering them,
and, do, as, i have done, to me, they are
The ill's, the group of 10 ill's
(and, we know, what happens to people,
when they get ill)
Hard to believe, that, in a world as large as this,
so few, could actually, hold so much power over us,
and, yet, it is simply a matter, i believe,
of monitoring our eXchanges...
remember stats...they say, are often proven
to be mis_truths, when it comes right down to it,
i do NOT believe, that 90% would take this mark.

Anyway...those are my thoughts

Brightest blessings
Susan
The eXchanger
(who is NOT ill)

[FOR TRUTH]

Ill die before i accept the chip, if they get it in my arm ill rip and dig it out with my teeth. I heard people break out with sores and boils from the rfid chip. Ive been telling everyone i know about the chip i hope your all doing the same, the more people that know whats happening the more of a chance we have at halting the elites plans. The nwo will not succeed........i hope

[QUESTINY]

Do you know the RFID is in the money. Here is what happens when you microwave the bills. Notice it is in the LEFT Eye of Jefferson.

http://www.infowars.com/headline_photos/April/rfidbills.jpg

[Kris Riley]

i do NOT call these people that

the powers (that think that they) be

that's what i call them



Brightest blessings
Susan
The eXchanger
(who is NOT ill)

For some reason I found myself reading your post from bottom to top. It seems like the way for me. Good wisdom in your words. I agree the more power you give to the powers that be, can make them more significant.

[Kris Riley]

Do you know the RFID is in the money. Here is what happens when you microwave the bills. Notice it is in the LEFT Eye of Jefferson.



What the.....I guess this is your money or a picture you found? That would be a huge undertaking. What do you think would be the point of it? I mean besides tracking it.

[christian]

David Wilcox wrote:

"D: Yeah, I’m not saying it’s bad. In fact, the Gnostic Christians knew that Christianity was going to become a negative force. And that’s why, when you go into the Book of Revelation and you’re reading about the Antichrist, it doesn’t say 666 is the number. It actually says six hundred, three score thirty, and six. And before that little passage, it says, for he who hath ears, let him hear. Now, for anybody who’s a cabbalist, meaning somebody who knows the secret magical tradition, when it says that little phrase, for he who hath ears, let him hear, it means take the numerical value of each letter and add ‘em up, and the number that you get from this passage is the secret code.

So when you add up the passage that describes the Antichrist and the number of the beast as being 666, the number it adds up to is 3160. And that number, in the secret code, is Lord Jesus Christ.

So what this -- and I know it’s going to sound crazy, but you can read all this in a book by John Michell, called The Dimensions of Paradise. And when you actually go through the account of the Antichrist in the Bible, what it says is that the Antichrist would be wounded on the side and yet did live and fashioned into an idol to be worshipped by all peoples, in nations, of all tongues.

And there is nothing else we see in the world except mainstream fundamentalist Christianity that fits that. So, they knew. They knew that the original positive message of Jehoshua (which is actually the real name of Jesus, bastardized into the name Jesus) ... Jehoshua’s teachings were positive. They taught service to others. They said, love thy neighbor. They didn’t say, love thy neighbor, provided that he’s not a faggot, or that he’s not ..."

He makes an interesting observation, and certainly his interpretation can be added to the tens of thousands before him that has applied their human reason to this Mark of the Beast. However, over the years, I'm not so sure one can identify the mark using history+reason. Granted, if the Scriptures themselves are false and filled with contradictions among themselves, then logically there is no certainty as to what they can mean. The conclusion must mean there is no divine order of things, but rather caos, circumstance and chance. Indeed for the finite mind, this too requires faith to believe. Mathematics is not the litmus test in my opinion.

Therefore, when understanding the Mark of the Beast, we should look only to the source documents for which arises the text itself. If indeed the Scriptures are the source, perhaps we can learn from Christ Himself, when He writes, "Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God." (Matt.22:29) compared with "And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?" (Mk.12:24) and as to help aide those who have ears to hear, "And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself." (Lk.24:27) compared with "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day" (Lk.24:45-46).

You see dear reader, even if one does not believe the Scriptures to be true, nor even believe them to be remotely reliable, it is still best to appeal to them to define its words. Contrary to the Papal Antichrist, the Scriptures must be interpreted by themselves. The most faithful way to define what words mean in those source documents are by the source documents only. Words and doctrine (in this case eschatology) cannot be defined by human reason, nor by history, nor by the "sacred" traditions of the church. The Scriptures must be interpreted in their "literal sense". This literal sense is not defined as that which appears at face value--but rather the literal sense is that sense which the author (God) intends--that "intended meaning" which is taken from the words themselves, whether the words are to be taken strictly or figuratively. The literal sense is that which the words are intended to mean as opposed to simply what they "appear" to mean.

Again, the "literal sense" does NOT mean what they "literally" mean, as claimed by the Evangelicals and the wicked Neocon's, but can and MUST mean what the author "intended" them to mean. Simply, whether the author is God or mere man/women, the source best qualified to define what its meant by what is said is the author themselves...this logically there can be no disagreement.

In respect to the Mark of the Beast, I don't believe the author intended for the meaning of "six hundred, three score thirty, and six" to be that as explained above by Mr. Wilcox. Although I find his taped discussion highly informative, my suggestion is to look more to the Scriptures themselves for the true definition of the Mark.

[THE eXchanger]

For some reason I found myself reading your post from bottom to top. It seems like the way for me. Good wisdom in your words. I agree the more power you give to the powers that be, can make them more significant.

Thank you, for your compliment :)

i wish i could write in pictures...the ones, i see in my mind

YOU are not the first to tell me, they read my post from bottom to top,
some people say, they see power animals, in the margins, like wings,
and, things like that !!!

i hope, some of them, are full of usual "gems"
& "tidbits" of information that are useful...

there are a few, who do NOT like my style, and, get mad, about the margins,
once, upon a time, they used to get mad at me, for, writing things,
that made their mind think,
instead, of giving them, the answer...
right off the bat !!!

if you do NOT do the work,
to mine, the words, and, dance with them a little,
to them, i say,
you will never find the diamond, let alone need the polish, to shine it

it is a time, of a great awakening, in this world...

we are all here, to engage our lower hearts, and, our lower minds,
with our higher hearts, and, our higher minds,
from the original spark, to the essence, and, everything in between,
and, toss that out into the ethers...
there are many who sparkle, and, even a few who glow,
either way, you are, what you are,
by a choice, and, how well you can intend !!!

Letting others, make our choices, for us
is dangerous, the most expensive ride of all,
is, those who seek a "free ride"...

in all my experience, when someone has told me,
it will NOT cost you a dime, it has cost me,
many quarters...or, if only you would lend me the money,
i promise to pay you back, to them, i would say,
i would rather give you the money,
and, see, if you have a heart, to give it back...

we are in interesting times,
the best, and, the worst, happening, at once,
which are you likely to graviate towards ???

only you, can answer that question !!!

only you, can activate the altering, and, the changing, that is going on ...
it is quite a stage of characters, start eXpressing yourself,
it is NOT easy, to do this,for when you do,
you open up your mind, and, in some cases,
it opens up, to join with much higher minds,
who have been waiting for you, to ask to join them,
i have been affected, by the full moon,
in ways, in which, guardians of it,
came to greet, and, to meet me,
at 5;13 am, this morning...what a trip that was :)

last night, when talking to a friend,
about a date, in October, i said,
well, come outside with me, i shall show you, i know, they are already there,
and, we actually saw, a "star_ship"...

since, i have lived here, for a very long time,
i know, it was NOT a star, and, it actually "winked" at us,
and, both of us, felt this energetic eXchange.

i took a few pictures, but, have NOT managed to get
my computer, to display it...
sometimes, i toss out very high energy,
and, everything freezes, even though i have built
a few grids of crystals around it

The "only mark",
you should be entertaining at this time,
is what type of mark, you will leave if this world,
should you happen to depart,
sooner, than you might of eXpected...

every being, is, just as important as the neXt being

everything is / and, was, always created equal

it is what you do, with what you got

that is the only thing,

that will alter/or change your equation / for better, or for worse

how it is, that you actually "sum" UP

so, be the best eXpression, you can be

brightest blessings of energy, light 'n love

susan~White Lotus Star
the eXchanger

[QUESTINY]

What the.....I guess this is your money or a picture you found? That would be a huge undertaking. What do you think would be the point of it? I mean besides tracking it.

Hi Kris, One reason is that they have scanners that can tell them how much money you have in your pocket. Even Euros have the RFID in them. Passports too. Tracking seems to be the most logical reason.

Some more sinister reasons may be that they can influence behavior by a broadcast signal. If it can emit it can receive. I haven't been able to find evidence to this, I only bring it up because it has been theorized.

[Zarathustra]

Hi Kris, One reason is that they have scanners that can tell them how much money you have in your pocket. Even Euros have the RFID in them. Passports too. Tracking seems to be the most logical reason.

Some more sinister reasons may be that they can influence behavior by a broadcast signal. If it can emit it can receive. I haven't been able to find evidence to this, I only bring it up because it has been theorized.

another thought - you can't control what you cannot track

[QUESTINY]

another thought - you can't control what you cannot track

Good point.

[DoctorTony]

The one thing I still don't understand is that I thought WE were co-creators!
I don't want an RFID chip or anything else that takes away my civil liberty as a sovereign human being by birth right!
People have died over this for thousands of years. NO MORE!
I refuse to give in and just simply allow the change to happen without all of this external BS (ID chips, wire-tapped phones, EMF radiation in my cell phone). My concentration is on my co-creation. I want to live in peace with ALL of you and your co-creations, how fun! We don't need anything else.
It's a BIG giant dichotomy. Order out of chaos is the man-made (or reptilian-made) agenda and it is also Order out of chaos - the natural order of things (explained by Ian Lungold in the Mayan calendar, astrological positioning, etc.)
No matter what happens - it already happened - time is cyclical and so are we. Repeat, ad nauseum. Repeat, ad nauseum.
:lightsabre: I AM A JEDI KNIGHT and A SITH LORD!
0 point here we come.

[QUESTINY]

The one thing I still don't understand is that I thought WE were co-creators!
I don't want an RFID chip or anything else that takes away my civil liberty as a sovereign human being by birth right!
People have died over this for thousands of years. NO MORE!
I refuse to give in and just simply allow the change to happen without all of this external BS (ID chips, wire-tapped phones, EMF radiation in my cell phone). My concentration is on my co-creation. I want to live in peace with ALL of you and your co-creations, how fun! We don't need anything else.
It's a BIG giant dichotomy. Order out of chaos is the man-made (or reptilian-made) agenda and it is also Order out of chaos - the natural order of things (explained by Ian Lungold in the Mayan calendar, astrological positioning, etc.)
No matter what happens - it already happened - time is cyclical and so are we. Repeat, ad nauseum. Repeat, ad nauseum.
:lightsabre: I AM A JEDI KNIGHT and A SITH LORD!
0 point here we come.

Dr. T this post has gone far off field. Now it is just a bunch of ramblings for fun. We do create our own reality. The original thread was to illustrate how I perceived their agenda to play out. You will notice that it says 90% of the people. Those on this forum and other like minded people all over the world make up the other 10%. I believe this is enough to stop this RFID from becoming a reality in people. It is already in pets, livestock, and scientifically studied animals using bracelets but to track people, that will be stopped by people like us and others. We can create a better world. In order to do this we start with ourselves and then share with others. We are all connected on a level unseen. We are spiritually bonded and through knowledge and peace of oneself we will unite and defeat the "evil" in the world. Taking back our responsibility and not relying on them for our survival is what has them so paranoid. The financial system and all its many facets is what had us controlled. Their own greed and lust for power is what is bringing them down. They are now fighting amongst themselves for who will be on top and in the process showing the world the truth. An unfortunate byproduct from their point of view. In the end there will be more of us then them and some people are not as spiritually inclined as we are on this forum. We know Karma and the Universe will rule, the others who know nothing of spirituality will take the Elite...to the gallows.

[Zarathustra]

Dr. T this post has gone far off field. Now it is just a bunch of ramblings for fun. We do create our own reality. The original thread was to illustrate how I perceived their agenda to play out. You will notice that it says 90% of the people. Those on this forum and other like minded people all over the world make up the other 10%. I believe this is enough to stop this RFID from becoming a reality in people. It is already in pets, livestock, and scientifically studied animals using bracelets but to track people, that will be stopped by people like us and others. We can create a better world. In order to do this we start with ourselves and then share with others. We are all connected on a level unseen. We are spiritually bonded and through knowledge and peace of oneself we will unite and defeat the "evil" in the world. Taking back our responsibility and not relying on them for our survival is what has them so paranoid. The financial system and all its many facets is what had us controlled. Their own greed and lust for power is what is bringing them down. They are now fighting amongst themselves for who will be on top and in the process showing the world the truth. An unfortunate byproduct from their point of view. In the end there will be more of us then them and some people are not as spiritually inclined as we are on this forum. We know Karma and the Universe will rule, the others who know nothing of spirituality will take the Elite...to the gallows.

I echo that response.

[DoctorTony]

Dr. T this post has gone far off field. Now it is just a bunch of ramblings for fun. We do create our own reality. The original thread was to illustrate how I perceived their agenda to play out. You will notice that it says 90% of the people. Those on this forum and other like minded people all over the world make up the other 10%. I believe this is enough to stop this RFID from becoming a reality in people. It is already in pets, livestock, and scientifically studied animals using bracelets but to track people, that will be stopped by people like us and others. We can create a better world. In order to do this we start with ourselves and then share with others. We are all connected on a level unseen. We are spiritually bonded and through knowledge and peace of oneself we will unite and defeat the "evil" in the world. Taking back our responsibility and not relying on them for our survival is what has them so paranoid. The financial system and all its many facets is what had us controlled. Their own greed and lust for power is what is bringing them down. They are now fighting amongst themselves for who will be on top and in the process showing the world the truth. An unfortunate byproduct from their point of view. In the end there will be more of us then them and some people are not as spiritually inclined as we are on this forum. We know Karma and the Universe will rule, the others who know nothing of spirituality will take the Elite...to the gallows.

YES! Well said. I was just trying to focus more of the attention on our future, because I think that I am finally realizing that the more focus on the problem will strengthen the problem. I am not in any way discrediting or undermining the posts here. I just got an intuition of my path being led astray with this topic. It is necessary to debate this, but I am trying to focus more attention on matters of the heart, rather than playing their game of fear. I do not fear the coming days ahead because I know that WE will all make it out. I don't believe in all of this judgment. It isn't in my soul anymore.
By the way, Questiny, I have been very impressed with your posts thusfar. Very insightful.
Thank you.
:trumpet:

[QUESTINY]

Your the Doctor! I'm glad you said that because I wouldn't want you to lock me up for insanity.

[DoctorTony]

Your the Doctor! I'm glad you said that because I wouldn't want you to lock me up for insanity.

Insanity might be a good thing. It is telling the mind that the old paradigms don't work. You already know that, so I don't think you can call your situation insanity. :lol3:
I did not know that Thomas Jefferson's eye had a tracking device in it by the way. Is it in all of the bills?

[Dantheman62]

I like putting things in real simple terms, like I wish everybody could be an astronaut for a day just to see how small the earth really is maybe we would wake up and get along as one unit undivided.

[PodWORLD]

To my mind all sectors of society seem to have infighting. People don't seem to like anything and are retreating into intellectual and/or spiritual tribalism.

I believe 'we' will negotiate a better future or at least the perception of that because we must. It is inevitable.

[Dantheman62]

In most cases infighting is due to religious beliefs, religion has killed more people than all the wars put together! We will have a better future because we have the knowledge to do so.

[PodWORLD]

Religion is a tool in every sense. The 'mysteries' relate not only control of the 'profane' through cultism but the power of occultism over the intelligensia.

We're all in the know in one way or another.

[Dantheman62]

I just think it's a shame that so many kind good hearted people are blinded by their religious beliefs

[Captain Obvious]

Hi Dantheman62,
>I just think it's a shame that so many kind good hearted people are blinded by their religious belief

I agree, but I also think that this is something those souls wants to experience. I've had friends isolating themselves with people of similar beliefs. I've had good talks with them where I got to know what they were thinking, which I find interesting. I told them how I felt about the whole situation, and as much as I like and love them, it was their choice.

Regarding implanted microchips, I will do everything in my power to prevent that from happening to me. I won't interfere with others choices, but I can tell them my thoughts on the subject, and they, hypothetically, respond with something that hopefully both parties can learn something from.

[ForsakenFalcon]

obviously the specifics of the technology are unknown to me, but i seriously doubt their only purpose would be to store your credit information and identity. i see potential for electric shock at the push of a button, or possibly disruption of the bodys electromagnetic fields, maybe it would emit low levels of radiation, or maybe high levels of radiation, it will certainly have more functions than we will be told it does, im certain they will not be benign. also i believe that for now, body and spirit are inextricable.
there is no way i will consent to a chip inside my body

It could possiblely manipulate chemical's in the brain as too forceing someone to fall asleep if there runing from the law, or possible make someone whom know's too much and is about to leak it have serious physophrenia attack's makeing them appear completely disillusional & turn creditable People into crimeninal's.

Anything's possible right? O.o

[Ceilidh_Madigan@yahoo.com]

[QUOTE=Swamisalami;] I think them RFID-chips are already nano-size. They can spray them with the chemtrails so everybody will absorb them when breathing. You won't even notice it when they are in your body........

I've heard about this, this is a scary thought.:shocked:


I think some sources should be listed on this thought before it gets a little too out of hand... What good is it to just spray an area of people with micro chips? You have to have that person's information stored in the chip BEFORE insertion... so what good is it? Why would they want animals running around with RFID chips in them too? I mean, wouldn't it be confusing to have millions of squirrels running around interfering with important signals? There's enough "crazy" to conspiracy theories out there already, lets not give any more ammo to the argument of their credibility.

[QUESTINY]

Insanity might be a good thing. It is telling the mind that the old paradigms don't work. You already know that, so I don't think you can call your situation insanity. :lol3:
I did not know that Thomas Jefferson's eye had a tracking device in it by the way. Is it in all of the bills?

All bills except for the $1 bill last I looked. This may have changed recently though.

[QUESTINY]

I think it is important at this time to explain another very crucial point to the RFID. They cannot spray it on you, give it to you in a needle without your knowledge (although they do this for experimental purposes) or force you to take it. I have mentioned before in this forum that this boils down to a spiritual war. If something is done to you against your WILL then the energy transference of that situation is not properly accounted for and a shared energy is collected between the two parties. The innocent and the administrator. This would defeat the purpose of the RFID. This is a war for your soul. You have the power. If you chose to give it to them that is your will. The Universe cannot interfere. The Universe can make suggestions just like the power brokers make suggestions. The point out the risks and rewards of the desired idea. Just as the Universe points out the risks and rewards. We all have a moral compass. We all know what is right and wrong. Many of us have lived in the wrong so long that we forget who we are. That is changing. Again, that is why this thread was created. To bring forth a change. To win back our hearts and minds.

The law of the Universe is that you cannot break Free Will. To do so would result in a Karmic punishment. For example, they cannot just kill us off without our acceptance of it. To drop Nuclear bombs on the cities right now would let God win. This is an unacceptable outcome for our Visitors and Power Brokers unless all other options were extinguished. They would do it out of self preservation to try again the next time around. They must win. They must get your soul. The only way they can is for you to give it to them.

Thanks to Avalon we can have strength in numbers.

[dolphin]

I think it is important at this time to explain another very crucial point to the RFID. They cannot spray it on you, give it to you in a needle without your knowledge (although they do this for experimental purposes) or force you to take it. I have mentioned before in this forum that this boils down to a spiritual war. If something is done to you against your WILL then the energy transference of that situation is not properly accounted for and a shared energy is collected between the two parties. The innocent and the administrator. This would defeat the purpose of the RFID. This is a war for your soul. You have the power. If you chose to give it to them that is your will. The Universe cannot interfere. The Universe can make suggestions just like the power brokers make suggestions. The point out the risks and rewards of the desired idea. Just as the Universe points out the risks and rewards. We all have a moral compass. We all know what is right and wrong. Many of us have lived in the wrong so long that we forget who we are. That is changing. Again, that is why this thread was created. To bring forth a change. To win back our hearts and minds.

The law of the Universe is that you cannot break Free Will. To do so would result in a Karmic punishment. For example, they cannot just kill us off without our acceptance of it. To drop Nuclear bombs on the cities right now would let God win. This is an unacceptable outcome for our Visitors and Power Brokers unless all other options were extinguished. They would do it out of self preservation to try again the next time around. They must win. They must get your soul. The only way they can is for you to give it to them.

Thanks to Avalon we can have strength in numbers.

questiny... (by the way i think you give great info and posts, but on this one i think you're not completely right)

how do you know they can't force it on you w/out your consent. how do you think the aid's virus was passed along, especially in africa? i'll tell you it was innoculated through a vaccine. it was created by a govt. funded lab and distributed via a shot, then spread through sex and other ways. do you think people who got the virus through the vaccines "agreed" to this?!!
they can and will do things against "your will".... i would hope and wish what you say is true, but karma has nothing to do w it. they've been dumping chemicals and poisons into our public water and i didn't give them consent, yet there it is. so your wishful logic isn't so sound.

nano-chip technology is here and they have the ability to do these things. it's fact.

the only hope is that word gets out to a LOT of people. and get people mad enough to stop watching their tv's to realize what is happening. if you watch alex collier's video, he says some very imp. things. i do agree we can change this though. .... through love, and to love of self! becasue if we love ourselves, we wouldn't allow govts. to keep poisioning us! i know there is a small grass roots group who is purposing legislation for the "soveriengty of our bodies. that govt. can not claim our bodies as a resource. now this is being proactive.

[QUESTINY]

Hi dolphin, I really appreciate your outstanding question. This is what makes this forum so fun! My perspective on the spiritual war that you eloquently pointed out the logical disconnect is a complicated matter that I did not fully articulate.

There are different layers to the Elites point of view. First of all from my perspective is the Elite are a group of families that have been manipulating things for many years. It may even be for thousands of years. These families may even be the descendants of the fallen angels or Nephilm. There is even evidence that they may still be the same 200 Nephilm that were the fallen ones. Lineage is of upmost importance.

With that said, there is a temporal power grab and a spiritual power grab. The temporal is about sacrifice of the innocent in order to gain power on this level of existence. To spread fear. They can feed off that fear. That energy has to go somewhere. They take the essence of the life force while performing this type of sacrifice. They do not get to take the soul during this task because the violation of free will. That person's life was knowingly taken against it's will. A conscious effort was made to destroy that universal creation. This plays into your illustration of the Aids virus. This has a high emotional energy associated to it. This is a type of power that they can harness and recreated in the physical world only. This type of power is useless in the spiritual world.

They grow hungry to be a God. In order for them to do this, they must take the soul as well while following the laws of the Universe. The Law of God. One of the laws as stated before is the Law of Free Will. If the soul is a prize to be won then that soul must willingly submit. This is a main reason many Nephilm fell during the fall of the Spiritual Earth into the Temporal Earth.

Side Note: That's right there were two earths. When they merged into one it created a great cataclysm. The two frequencies had to find a harmonic equilibrium. I believe that the 2012 is the first time the two earths are able to decouple. The Spirit Earth is able to return back to the 5th dimension from where it came. More on this latter if you like.

So you see, the sacrifice of the innocent is a temporary power that can only be manifested on this plane of existence. It gives them limited power as long as the fear and negative energy is associated to the sacrifice. The more innocent and the more emotional fear the greater the power that can be removed from the subject.

With the amount of energy in the wrapper of human beings is so large at this time due to population, it would be a waste of potential spiritual power that they could attain for them to just waste it on a Nuclear War. People must willingly accept them as their ultimate rulers first (the chip would give this spiritual power to them) and then the population reduction scenario can play out. If the person is destroyed at this future time described above then that soul energy and the temporal energy can be theirs. If they did it now before everyone willingly accepted their dominion then they would only harness the temporal energy. This energy is not everlasting.

[Chaordic Simplexity]

No controller can escape the one and only tyrant that never goes away and will eventually straighten us out without mercy!!!

I love you controllers....thanks for waking up my brothers/sisters....i miss them and im hopw your path doesnt get too horrible. you have the oppurtunity to change and use your power to create so much love. :winksmiley02:

[Shellie]

I can't repeat this enough...

MAKE THE NEW WORLD ORDER IRRELEVANT.

Get a ground crew or another group and start doing everything you can to be self-sufficient and sustainable. If you don't need anything from the NWO puppet masters, then they don't have anything to lure you in with while they attach the strings.

And, do whatever you can to take care of your debts!

[QUESTINY]

Great advice!!!!

[Starlah]

People have mostly already addressed this but I'm going to be more specific and say that each organ in your body has its own frequency/cycle rate (I can't remember if the proper term), eg. your brain has its own, your heart, liver, etc. And this chip can be used to impact those organ systems. It can be used to impact your thoughts. So the chip goes way beyond just personal data, or tracking.

I will not take the chip.

[edit]
And I just remembered reading recently that they had done studies with the chip implanted in people, and it actually causes cancer.
RFID's being nano sized and possibly in chemtrails is a very scary thought (because it eliminates the option of choice) and yes the technology is so advanced now that it can cause great disturbances in mind and body.
I read recently in an article (sorry I can't remember the link or website) that everything you buy will have an RFID tag (i.e.clothes, shoes,etc.) and you won't be able to see it...tracking everybody with their clothes on (or off as the case may be).
Where I live chemtrails have been a constant occurence since 2000 onwards.

[Ampgod]

I would die fighting before taking this RFID.
It will not happen in my neck of the woods! :lightsabre:




Ampgod

[Gnosis5]

I just spoke with a woman who can remotely neutralize the verichip -- or any kind of implant, so I don't think we have to worry about it. She has the ability and so do others -- when the time comes. Do your spiritual work and nothing can hurt you.



RFID's being nano sized and possibly in chemtrails is a very scary thought (because it eliminates the option of choice) and yes the technology is so advanced now that it can cause great disturbances in mind and body.
I read recently in an article (sorry I can't remember the link or website) that everything you buy will have an RFID tag (i.e.clothes, shoes,etc.) and you won't be able to see it...tracking everybody with their clothes on (or off as the case may be).
Where I live chemtrails have been a constant occurence since 2000 onwards.

[benfranklin]

In order to take the mark of the beast, you have to blantantly deny God and swear allegiance to someone, like an anti-christ figure. I find it odd that once you take the mark, you cannot repent?? Murderers can repent on their death beds but doing something so you can feed your family gets you a one way ticket to Hell? This doesn't follow.

[christian]

I saw this comment posted on another site and thought it may be helpful or interesting for those on this thread. Although I am not a proponent of using means outside Scripture to interpret Scripture, it might be of interest to some. For those who are against religious presupposition, from what I've read above, don't forget we all have a degree of religious epistemology within...so I do hope posting Christian commentary will not be outside the order of things on this site.

For your information, I have no connection to this group, nor have I ever investigated any of their materials. I just found it interesting and perhaps helpful for the researchers on here as well. However, after traveling more than 30 countries, I have discovered Christians have contributed a lot to science and mathematics, as well as other important disciplines worldwide, and so I believe it is fair to include their authors in historical research.

Here is the quote:

"Dear Friends:

Did you know that the number of the Beast - 666 - contains the mark of the Beast? The literal Greek rendering of Rev. 15:2b reads: .....of it's mark of the number of it's name...

In A. D. 1593 Mathematician John Napier, inventor of logarithms and the decimal point, wrote an in-depth commentary on the Revelation accusing the Papacy as Antichrist and the Roman Catholic Church as Mystery Babylon. In his studies he discovered that the mark of the Beast - the sign of the cross - is found in the number of the Beast - 666 - whose name in Greek letters, LATEINOS, [translated 'Latin Man'] adds up to the sum 666. Today John Napier is honored as a genius, not a kook. Napier University in Edinburgh is named after him. He is ranked among such geniuses as Archimedes, Newton and Einstein.

I have taken Napier's discovery and presented his conclusions, while at the same time enlarging its application to prove, beyond a doubt, that the Pope in office is that Antichrist of whom we are to identify, shun and warn others.

To access the links to this 2-part video, please go to my Home Page and click on the link: WHAT'S FRESH.

The grace of our Lord be with you all,
Rand Winburn
Director
Protestant Reformations Publications
www.iconbusters.com"

[mkpetrov]

In order to take the mark of the beast, you have to blantantly deny God and swear allegiance to someone, like an anti-christ figure. I find it odd that once you take the mark, you cannot repent?? Murderers can repent on their death beds but doing something so you can feed your family gets you a one way ticket to Hell? This doesn't follow.
I agree - let`s not forget that most of the peope will not see it as "mark of the beast" - so would they really deserve to "Burn in hell" (Not that we should accept it, of course - no way, but we know that mose of the people would do it anyway)? Doesn`t really make sense, unless, of course, the chip itself is kind of soul-stealing/capturing device, so they go to "hell" not because of divine justice, but because of the evil one`s direct intervention.:rolleyes:

[ARE WE THERE YET]

questiny

i agree. but how do you prevent them from chipping us? to those who talked about "positive thinking", yes i agree where thoughts go, energy flows. and i want to put positive energy out there, but all the positive thinking and being in a buble of light is not stopping them from their ultimate plan unless the majority of people wake up. look, they've already succeeded at crashing the US economy, the dollar, and now the amero will soon be introduced. i also read billy meier's predictions from the pleidaians, also from barbara marciniak, who's source come from the pleidians, that the chip will be implimented. unless these elites and the corporatocracy no longer exist, we will be free. i just don't see that happening right now. i understand the elites will eventually be gone, but it's these few next years, which makes me cringe.

you can't just stay in hiding, you have to live your life to the fullest...then where is "safe"?????

the chip isn't just to "track" you. i understand the chip will be able to send electromagnetic frequencies to your brain to "dull" the mind, similar to the brain waves, i believe it's theta when you watch tv. i'll post the link on an interview i saw later. can't find it now--it's on concisous media network, a specialist in this field goes in to detail of the rfid chip.

I believe in *free will*
I read that all you do is say no- they can not chip you by force as it is not so much the branding and control they want-They want you too choose to be dominated. I will never CHOOSE to be a slave any more than I will turn on my fellow man because I am ordered to do so. As does the unwitting soldier or blackmailed politician. SAY NO! and what ever happens is after that is your choosing even if it is the end of this life.:thumb_yello:

[Swanny]

I think some sources should be listed on this thought before it gets a little too out of hand... What good is it to just spray an area of people with micro chips? You have to have that person's information stored in the chip BEFORE insertion... so what good is it? Why would they want animals running around with RFID chips in them too? I mean, wouldn't it be confusing to have millions of squirrels running around interfering with important signals? There's enough "crazy" to conspiracy theories out there already, lets not give any more ammo to the argument of their credibility.

Good point :)

[munkey]

Hi again.

why is everyone so sure the mark is going to be a chip?

I tend to think a little outside the box a bit.
The chip seems way to obvious to me, TPTB know that everyone is talking about the chip and as good as the idea seems to them, I think they are using it to their own advantage to keep people from looking for the real meaning behind it.

lets just go outside the box a little and say that we now have a NWO, a new world goverment as well as a one world religion, how can we get the entire planet to follow one religion, well you some how prove it is the correct religion.

now lets just step outside the box a little more, what if we had Alien contact which gave us the secrets we are searching for, they tell us about religion and how we where created by joining A+B and the result was us.
what if they then tell us that we are now advanced enough to go to the next stage of evolution, all we have to do is take a vaccine or swallow a pill and our DNA will alter, no longer will we get sick, no longer will we age, we have no need of anything now, because we have now discovered how to use the pineal gland in our brain, so as no one gets the vaccine twice, you have to take a mark to show you have evolved.

now as far fetched as that sounds, humans as such are very judgemental and will isolate anyone who is different to them, tell me how you feel when you enter a room and discover that you are the minority there, you feel uncomfortable and want to leave.
Now if you have a population which now feels it is superior to those who havn't evolved, those without the mark will be shunned and refused entry to stores and be unable to purchase or sell, eventually they will be hunted so as not to pollute the human race again with primitive DNA.

Again, it may seem a little out there, but it isn't as obvious and it will make brother turn on brother.

[Humble Janitor]

If it comes down to having to be chipped, I will do it.

Over my dead body, they will not chip me!

[Alexandra]

I believe you all are giving entirely too much power to the governments and the possibility of the NWO. Has anyone considered the enormity of the project of utilizing an implanted chip? It would take years to set up. They would have to implant every person, in the world, every animal, and every fish. Banks, Hospitals, Schools, , every Public Building, gas stations, all places of employment [and the list goes on and on] would have to have machines and manpower to screen everyone. Implanting people would be the easy part.

:original:Alexandra

[Topper]

What makes you think that they haven't already accomplished this? The chip is minute. Every newborn is injected with the chip at birth and no one realizes this. Monitoring? Look around. Cameras everywhere. Building lobbys, traffic lights, cell phones sending photos through the air. The powers have been working on this for a looooong time. We're just getting this information now....................

[Swanny]

Even if some bloke injected a chip into you it's not going to send you to hell. Your spirit will still be the same.
I don't intend having one in me but I know I will still be me even if they did get one in.
And who is going to monitor every one?? Too much information too process and for what reason?? Who cares that Mrs Jones is shopping at tescos and sainsburys???
Anyway if they stopped cash people would barter so tptb lose out that way.
We have a massive recession coming and many people will be out of work, the governments are skint so who will pay the wages of the manpower needed to set all this up?? It's not as if it would even be self funding.

Please stop worrying about this.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0nDClh9NpZw

[Alexandra]

What makes you think that they haven't already accomplished this? The chip is minute. Every newborn is injected with the chip at birth and no one realizes this. Monitoring? Look around. Cameras everywhere. Building lobbys, traffic lights, cell phones sending photos through the air. The powers have been working on this for a looooong time. We're just getting this information now....................


Hi Topper
Do you have proof of this or is this pure conjecture? Logically, one could not just put in a chip and forget about it. There are a lot of microchips in machines that become defective and have to be adjusted or replaced. A microchip in a human would have to be biocompatable and one chip would not last, biochemically speaking, from infancy to adulthood because the body chemically changes during that major growth period.

I still say that it takes entirely too much manpower to maintain that type of a system. There are so many other ways to control a population at much less of an expense.

:original:Alexandra

[Dusty Nothing]

may not be the most constructive of comments but

if you are willing to take a microchip from these people you are no longer a human, you are a chicken ass corporate-whipped sheep-person, even alot of people I know who arent exactly 'awake' would never take a chip.

[MusicLover]

No chip for me.I would rather go live in the woods like the Indians then be chipped.
I think 90% would be chipped simply bcuz of their ignorance and also bcuz i think most of society are complete morons who NEED to be taken care of.
Its amazing how many people who can't think for themselves.

[Topper]

Alexandra, it's conjecture for the most part. I was just trying to make the point that in our country, our govt' does many things that we are not aware of. If we knew half the stuff happening we would be up in arms just like the Minutemen.
Your expalnation has given me some confidence in the fact that our govt would not invest such a high cost to control their population when they have other ways.
Thank you.

[Knightbk]

Prove to me that an ATM Card is the Mark of the Beast.

Oh wait, you can't.

[eaglespirit]

BECAUSE...The Mark of the Beast IS a CROCK!

It IS Over!

Spirituality and Oneness Consciousness IS Here in the NOW!

The Divine Energy of Oneness has NOW been Embraced by 20% of the
World Population and an Entrainment of Unconditional Love is NOW going Exponential and IS Negating every form of control and deceit and WE are turning Mother Earth into a Heaven and Paradise of Love and Spirituality and Oneness!

The "Mark" is weakened in 4th dimension but cannot exist in the 5th dimension...
and the 5th dimension is here and IS becoming a part of more and more of Life in the Now
and this 5th density has NO service to self energy at all...
only service to others and oneness and divinity and love.

As more and more of us unplug from reality as it has been force-fed us the more energy of love and light from within each of us overcomes ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to do with ANY "mark" of ANY "beast", period...end of story!

Transmute, Transform, Transcend...ALL of the lies!

The New Dawn IS Here, Now!
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q245/etherealhaven/SmokeySunbeams.jpg

[ctophil]

The Mark of the Beast is more than a chip. It requires obedience, and at times, worship of the beast system. The current NWO in the works will be this beast system I'm talking about. The NWO has been in the works for thousands of years, since the days of Babylon. When you accept the mark (which will be physical and spiritual), you are giving your body, spirit, and mind to Lucifer. The physical side is a means for you to live in this world via food, clothing, shelter, etc. The spiritual side is that you also have to follow and worship their one world government, religion, and currency (which will be the mark).

You are already "conditioned" to take the mark anyways. All the stuff in the past, such as SS#, Bank accounts, Money, Religions, Media, Sports, Food, Education, Television, Laws, Politics, and everything in life today that you are used to, are programming tools for you to accept the mark without much of a fight. Because you are already "familiar" with the beast system. It's extremely deceptive.

So taking the mark will make you become an outright, blatant follower of Lucifer. Because you accept his world and his ways. So in conclusion, the mark will be a combination of things....a chip that will not only control your "buying and selling," but also the way you follow their NWO religion, politics, and so forth. Yes, there will be mind control involved with all this once you accept the chip. However, the chip is only the beginning. It represents your acceptance of Lucifer's NWO. So trying to get rid of it afterwards is a very difficult thing. True followers of Yahweh (the true name of God Almighty) will NOT have a hard time rejecting the mark. I emphasize "True Followers."

Some of you will try to reject it; but it is MUCH harder for you to reject the mark without Yahweh's Spirit guiding your ways. Because they won't advertise it as a "chip." They will advertise it as a "New Age" of society of love and peace with their new laws and commandments.

For those of you who know a little bit about scriptures, the Mark of the Beast was already hinted in the Book of Genesis. So when you accept the mark, you are a descendant of Cain and a murderer whose Father is Satan (also known as Lucifer). And you will be destroyed forever if you accept the Beast's Mark in the near future.

So the question is...can you reject it after taking it? Sure, but it's near impossible because it will control your mind and spirit. These NWO's technologies are "Alien technology," and it can control all aspects of your life. The ultimate, demonic device if you will. There are demons behind every "idol." And the mark is no different. You wouldn't take it in the first place anyways if you are a True Follower; because you know what it represents.

-Phillip

[MusicLover]

The beast is money and ego.
Why do you buy the shoes that make you feel special???Do you do it for you or do it for what others think of you.
Do you buy fancy things and try to make more money???
Do you want people to accept you???
Do you feel neglected??
Then try the new drug called...accepyersulf.
Hmmmmm

[fitzy3400]

I don't really think anyone will want that. I remember that there was a theory way back as computers caught on in the workplace how we were no longer going to be using paper as everything would be digital. Well that never happened and we use paper more and more. I am in the graphic industry and we send out to have things printed all the time. I seriously doubt we will make that transition. As for the mark of the beast, I really don't know what that could be. I've heard it's in bar codes that are on our packages, in cell phones and all kinds of other crazy things.

David Wilcock also expressed that it could be the lack of using the pineal gland. To be truthful I have never heard of the pineal until I heard David's interview about 2 months ago and have been trying to learn how to use it but haven't had much success. I know this is off subject but can anyone direct me in how to use it or have a link that I could explore?

I am not sure what to make of the 'mark of the beast'. It's one of those mysteries to me.

Peace

[Frank Samuel]

Have you ever use a super magnet with a 250lbs. pull force or more, place it right next to your cell phone, it will damaged it. a nano tech chip can be render useless. Just a hint. Use your creative ability to resolve problems, we don't have to comply with any law imposed on us, we are not helpless sheep.:thumb_yello:

[merkabagirl]

I saw something on utube that showed babies in the US being implanted with these tracking chips ... safety against the terrorists ... alot of parents will do it!! FEAR FEAR FEAR ...we must abolish fear!

[Rocky_Shorz]

hmmm built in Lo Jack for your kids or cheating spouse...:naughty:

[micjer]

Have you ever use a super magnet with a 250lbs. pull force or more, place it right next to your cell phone, it will damaged it. a nano tech chip can be render useless. Just a hint. Use your creative ability to resolve problems, we don't have to comply with any law imposed on us, we are not helpless sheep.:thumb_yello:



To take this one step further imagine what it would do do to us if we were chipped!

I personally am totally against the idea of being chipped and will avoid it no matter what.
:lightsabre:

As far as my credit card or passport being microchipped I am not as concerned with. Not much different than the magnetic strip that is on it now. When they put my tag number in the computer at the border my information comes up now without the RFID.

To me the mark of the beast has to do with our own life computers' (body)
frequency being messed up by a microchip that could be programmed to interfer with the ascension process.

:sweatdrop:

[nibiru]

Ok ground crew :
The only remedy that dissables the negative side of microchipping is : Rise your own frequency to a higher rate...
Unconditional love ( or 9d compassion , as you wish to tag it ) will make your inner self resonate at a higher level or frequency, dissabling any attempt of mind or emotional manipulation of any kind, including nanochips...
The task is to work on your inner technology ... The work is to be done in your inside world...
It is time for us humans to know that we are cocreators, and very powerfull ones... We can achieve anything we want...including neutralizing the microchipping itself... Only by aquiring unconditional love ( or 9d compassion ) in our day to day basis...
Don´t fear the reptilian agenda... Transmute it... By transmutating yourself to higher realms of concioussness...

[nibiru]

i just spoke with a woman who can remotely neutralize the verichip -- or any kind of implant, so i don't think we have to worry about it. She has the ability and so do others -- when the time comes. Do your spiritual work and nothing can hurt you.
and i agree with gnosis5...so i quote her comment...

[nibiru]

Inner technology is the solution to nanochipping...
Spiritual growth into the next step in the evolutive ladder is waiting for humankind...
Thank the universe that the reptilians are doing an exellent job, because their fine performance will trigger the best response from human beings...we can learn the biggest lesson of all and empower ourselves as cocreator gods/godesses...and fulfill our destiny as such...

"you got to get in to get out " peter gabriel...

[nibiru]

i am (almost) only using cash now, but have to get it through atm somehow. Less trips. More stash at home (oh dear).
I never use a cellphone unless for emergencies - use ancient analogue dial phone at home. Good if power down.
I cannot understand the people who wander around constantly connected to their friends throughout their everyday life via a cellphone. Nonetheless - i am here frequently, what's in that for me? Bad computer vibes? (no wifi - hard-wired).
Will now limit my time on my computer, but ain't that just what 'they' want?:lightsabre:
exactly...
That is what they want from us... To live in fear on a daily basis... Give them the opposite to balance polarities...

[nibiru]

i can't repeat this enough...

Make the new world order irrelevant.

Get a ground crew or another group and start doing everything you can to be self-sufficient and sustainable. If you don't need anything from the nwo puppet masters, then they don't have anything to lure you in with while they attach the strings.

And, do whatever you can to take care of your debts!
yessss !

[WineHippie]

*

[ARE WE THERE YET]

When you say No to the chip aka the mark you say no to the grandfathered belief that the world must be made up of the slaves and the masters.
Seeing as how we all know that masters are never consistently nice to the slaves one has to conclude that we all want to be the masters.
If there are no slaves then there are no masters:wall:

Heres another analagy-If you join and team and then don't like the rules that the captain keeps making do you bitch about it and continue to play or do you -leave the team.:cup:

ONENESS rules

[Northern Boy]

Why 100% will take the mark of the beast.

It won't be optional.

If you resist, you will be physically restrained.

If you evade, you will not be able to buy food.

If you stay in one place long enough to hunt or grow food - they will find you.

This is why Revelation states that those who take the mark AND worship the beast will receive thet wrath of God.

restraint , if you fight hard enough they only have one option and if you are taking a few of them with you so be it