* URGENT * Mind Parasites @ Avalon

[Zynox]

Folks,

As gently as possible, i deliver this observation:

This forum has attracted a host of mind parasites and the contagion is spreading. This energy expresses, initially, as frustration and then advances to present itself as harsh and abrasive words and [Edit add] harsh and abrasive [Edit end] rejections of ideas.

Each of us may become carriers, without full conscious recognition.

There are a variety of immunization techniques, but I humbly request we each hold integrity and respect.

We are only targeted as a community because we have power, and because we are (R)evolutionary ...

If you, You, YOU are an enlightened and loving radiant being, or strive towards that path, please, exercise respect, tolerance and love in every communication here.

We all carry our conditioning, biases and memes, and, we all carry creative spark and choice, sovereign choice.

WE ALL HOLD SLICES OF THE TRUTH, NONE OF US COULD POSSIBLY HAVE THE WHOLE TRUTH ON THIS PLANE.

I have been possessed, with a variety of quite 'nasty', 'ugly' and 'repulsive' parasites and negative energies (spirits, demons, pick a label ...), I know the signs, I have crawled the path.

LLLLLLLLLL
OOOOOOO
VVVVVVVV
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&

PEACE
PEACE
PEACE
PEACE

Zynox

[rustanddust]

:thumb_yello: great advice, thank you....

[Peace4Gaia]

Wise words Zynox, thank you!

Peace
:flowers2:

[SiriArc]

Zynox,

The Dynamic You Note Is What Sparked This Post, Back When *****

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3435

Edit:

Yea Verily

Lest There Be Misunderstanding

This Post Was Sparked By Agreement With The Z Maestro, And Intended to Make Note Of bullies and know-it-alls.

[Edward Alexander]

Interestingly enough this was your post number 42. The Secret of the Universe ;)

But yes indeed, obviously a place like this would attract what you are mentioning, but we can protect ourselves just like they can.

Build a radiant reflective shield that cast off and returns any negative energy and influence back to its sender.

Good luck and blessings,
-Edward Alexander

[Captain Obvious]

Hello Zynox.

By your logic then, rejecting your ideas foretold in this post means mind parasites have compromised my system? I'm not one to treat people as glass figures, and that's also a sign of nasties?

I get the sense that you want a playground where everybody agrees, and dissidents are evil. Rocking the boat is very different than thrashing the boat. Yes, stating the obvious. :biggrin2:

[Angel of the Mists]

I get the sense that you want a playground where everybody agrees, and dissidents are evil. Rocking the boat is very different than thrashing the boat. Yes, stating the obvious. :biggrin2:

Of course we can have debate and we may not agree with every view point, but surely it is how we disagree? What I hear Zynox saying is that sometimes there appears to be an edge to some of our responses, and I too have picked that up. One of the key words is respect. Each of us brings something different to this forum and we will have our own innate ways of communicating, but we also owe it to each other to listen and not to dismiss too quickly. And if we do not agree with the view being posed, then for me there is something about graciously allowing, because ultimately I may learn something or want to alter my own thoughts on the topic.

We are looking at the same thing more or less, but the view from my hilltop is going to be different from yours. Therefore we will each have slightly different perspectives, but surely the same goal?

Angel of the Mists

[Citizen Zeitgeist]

The negative energy generated by arguing with each other over entirely subjective matters is the achiles heel of the truth movement and life-blood of the controllers and their malevolent forces. In focussing upon which negative future awaits us we are only exacerbating the problems by walking the path of fear, instead of the path of love.

United by our similarities, rather than divided by our differences, we must refocus our thoughts upon manifesting a positive future for all humanity on Planet Earth, as we build new paradigms for the highest benefit of the entire universe.

Feel free to visit the Positive Affirmation video below. The vibrations are resonating wonderfully.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtKbMyN_Pms

Peace, freedom, love and light,

Z

[Captain Obvious]

Hi Angel of The Mists. Yes, allowance is the point I'm trying to make. The thrust of the post, to me, seems to be that boat rockers (non-conformists) should beware, because mind parasites may be causing the behavior. The other way around would be that Happy Thoughts have infiltrated The Tower of Gloom.

We seem to have different views about allowance. In my world I still get to state my opinion even if we disagree.

[Angel of the Mists]

......'In my world I still get to state my opinion even if we disagree'

:) :) :) and in my world too (you get to state your opinion even if we disagree).
..... There is no real disagreement here.....only a reminder that we respect other's view point and communicate with integrity.

And if we disagree, then that gives me the opportunity to look at my own viewpoint in a different way, and I welcome that because then I know I am moving, and not being stuck.

So, Captain Obvious, if we really are disagreeing, ( which I don't think we are), thank you for the opportunity you have given me!!

Angel :)

[Captain Obvious]

Hi Angel, :lol3: We seem to both agree and disagree. Thanks for your thoughts.

Utopia, a really short story, actually more like a flash story, or even blinks-of-an-eye kind of story, to point out a few other things about this stubject:

The settlers settled into the new settlement and somewhat startled they started staring at the sunset, then, with the growing dark as a background, they started looking at each other. Who were these people? Their faces looked so weird in the dark.

'Oi', said a figure, with eyes twinkling like stars in the light of his torch. 'We need to set a few ground rules here, don't you think?' Most of the crowd cried yes, and the few dissidents were first given the silent treatment, but as it turned out, that didn't work, they were ripped out of the group like embarrasing nose hairs. The silent minority of dissidents left in the group kept their thoughts to themselves, though it felt wrong, the majority said it was right. So be it, all said.

'I don't like the word duck, as it sounds like another word, and I'm really offended by the **** word', a granny said, and the crowd gasped at the slip, and then agreed to ban both of the words. By the end of the day, no words were allowed. 'Yes' had a lot going for it, but one person was reminded of the band and its excessive use of notes and weird chord progressions, aaaaand.. it was tossed out.

With the rising sun and the soft shadows came the sight of the group sitting hurdled in silence. Hardly daring to breathe as somebody might be offended by the dirty, heavy breathing. The Golden Age was upon them, and the proverb 'silence is golden' was made king. Silence was not quite why they had set up the new village, but at least nobody cried nor disagreed.

The End.


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[rustanddust]

lol dude, with respect I think you're taking this all in the wrong way. no one is going to try and make you conform or whatever. there is plenty of healthy debate going on. its a-ok. and you are right, we should be allowed to trade opinions and disagree and have debate....thats also what zynox is saying. also great story lol, is it from somewhere or is it from you purely?

[Oneness]

Very true Zynox... I was noticing a bit of this myself. Staying together and positive is key.


Namaste.

[Angel of the Mists]

Sounds like this group in your Utopia story could have done with a good facilitator! :)

There is learning for all of us!

Angel

[Zynox]

NAMASTE!

By the way there are many interpretations and meanings of namaste, I like: "The divine in me honors the divine in thee".

I was most pleased to awaken this morning and read this thread. Maturely, with discernment, perspectives have been expressed, without attacks of any personal nature. There isn't any vampric energy.



By your logic then, rejecting your ideas foretold in this post means mind parasites have compromised my system? I'm not one to treat people as glass figures, and that's also a sign of nasties?

I get the sense that you want a playground where everybody agrees, and dissidents are evil. Rocking the boat is very different than thrashing the boat. Yes, stating the obvious. :biggrin2:

Spot on! Rocking the boat loosens up the crust we accumulate, thrashing it keeps us in a cycle of war.

Captain, you have taken a liberty with extending 'my logic', I stated what I did because I feel the energies and respond in observation, yet I honor your differences in opinion, and your most sovereign right to express them. Even if you felt to be infected with parasites, which you don't, I'd honor you while having compassion for you. When one is infected, one doesn't always 'know' they are, I have been there.

Namaste!

[TranceAm]

http://psychicvampirism.com/index.html

[Northboy]

how do you mean?

What has inspired you to say this?

[addalight]

:thumb_yello: It's all grist for the mill.

[Zynox]

how do you mean?

What has inspired you to say this?

If this question was phrased to me, I offer that my recently edited post contains my reason and inspiration:

"This energy expresses, initially, as frustration and then advances to present itself as harsh and abrasive words and [Edit add] harsh and abrasive [Edit end] rejections of ideas."

I read the dialog and when discussions transgress to vehement attacks I feel the vampires increasing their feeding, I feel this directly, I shield myself, and once in awhile I'll bring it into illumination in a post of my own, but I try and avoid direct responses to those negative posts which would simply serve to fuel the feeding, in my experience.

Entire forums have been highjacked in this manner, and the resonant folks driven elsewhere, and I'd like to see this Avalon creation become a cyber safe haven for slices of the truth that integrate the truth, in peace.

Namaste!

[TranceAm]

Entire forums have been highjacked in this manner, and the resonant folks driven elsewhere, and I'd like to see this Avalon creation become a cyber safe haven for slices of the truth that integrate the truth, in peace.

Namaste!

That would mean that the bad side wins (everytime.)
That dark, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary wins over light.
It would also mean that the enlightenment of the people present here, is nothing beyond a claim....

I think we have to give the majority of the people present on this forum, a little bit more credibility then that they will fall for the first claim of the first troll...

"Let it Go"... If you feel anything negative from a post. "Let it Go".
And if the negativity in a posting/reply manages to rip the virtual flesh of your being and is being felt in your soul, then you can learn something from that, besides going to the level of the person that slashed that hook into you, to get the satisfaction of the postings intent.

Just my opinion on a sunday morning.. Perfect Blue Sky, and the sun is shining..

[Northboy]

If this question was phrased to me, I offer that my recently edited post contains my reason and inspiration:

"This energy expresses, initially, as frustration and then advances to present itself as harsh and abrasive words and [Edit add] harsh and abrasive [Edit end] rejections of ideas."

I read the dialog and when discussions transgress to vehement attacks I feel the vampires increasing their feeding, I feel this directly, I shield myself, and once in awhile I'll bring it into illumination in a post of my own, but I try and avoid direct responses to those negative posts which would simply serve to fuel the feeding, in my experience.

Entire forums have been highjacked in this manner, and the resonant folks driven elsewhere, and I'd like to see this Avalon creation become a cyber safe haven for slices of the truth that integrate the truth, in peace.

Namaste!

Ah, you're empathic to the dark side, a kind of canary for the coal mine of this forum.

I see that your intentions are pure and I agree with you.

You sense them showing up? It could be my fault, sorry, they don't like me getting out much....

[I_Am]

Zynox is so very right on the spot!

Growing together is much more of giving positive feedback. Of sharing. Of generosity.

Disagreeing as a point of view, as an intellectual standpoint, as a "mind-turbation" way of life...will not help others to grow...much more to hold them back. And you will corrupt your own mind on the way - making yourself to think that you actually contribute...but you are NOT contributing in doing so - it's just another Soduko.

If you disagree - if you still are interested in helping other people to grow - share with your insight! Don't pull others' down.

Creativity is very much a process of sharing, of building onto what other have buld...and letting others to build even higher from what you have created. Kindness, humbleness, eagerness, openess and frankness - we should really be careful of these things in project avalon.

Love

[AMA-GI]

It has happened to myself in this forum. Instead of attaking in the same mannor, i simply thanked them for their opinion and responding to the post.

It doesnt matter to me that they were offensive.
Hopefully these people will learn that some of us will not retaleate.
We all have to master our emotions, for once we have, this is a big step towards enlightenment

Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful

[Captain Obvious]

rustandust: :original: I wrote it inspired by what I am seeing.

Zynox: Yes, you're right. It was my perception of your logic.

[lightbeing]

Namaste !

lightbeing

[777 The Great Work]

There is something beautiful taking place. The spoken word is disappearing and we are communicating with feelings and energy. I am so glad we are touching. peace

[Kukulcanessa]

Entire forums have been highjacked in this manner, and the resonant folks driven elsewhere, and I'd like to see this Avalon creation become a cyber safe haven for slices of the truth that integrate the truth, in peace.
Namaste!


Driven Elsewhere! how do you think i got here, and the fact that im a new member, should say something. I came from a forum, where inforamtion was discussed and some very religious folks joined, and all that happened was arguments, bashing of one anothers opinions, religious arguments, complete disrespect for someone else's point of view. they would argue that what they knew, was the ABSOLUTE TRUTH, which isnt realistic, since the prespective of those they were trying to argue with, was totally different than the perspective they had. It turned into racism, arguments, i couldnt take it, and i joined here, and found most of the people were much more positive(yay) at this site, and much more evolved than the other site.

[sunnyrap]

There seems to be a dichotomy when it comes to addressing 'negative' topics happening here. I think this is worthy of discussion. I'm not referring to expressing disrepect to anyone posting. IMO, showing everyone courtesy and respect is paramount in a successful community.

What I am referring to is the idea that you should not give 'negative thought forms' 'energy' by talking about them or even focussing on them. As if that will give them more life. As if not talking or thinking about them will rob them of life and they'll go away. I must respectfully disagree with this idea, which I believe comes from the whole "Matrix", "The Secret" and "Law of Attraction" concepts, which are certainly valid, but I feel might easily be getting misinterpreted or maybe over-simplified in how the laws play out in our current universe. Perhaps one day we will be so evolved that simply changing our thoughts changes reality instantly, but I think as a collective, this happens at varying speeds and doesn't relieve most of us from having to respond in many cases if not most, the old fashioned way: physically and in cooperation with each other.

But even being simplistic and going with the idea of putting awareness on anything makes it bigger, instantly: current cutting edge physicists are saying that consciousness or observation changes expected reality (Bruce Lipton has some great vids out there on this). It seems to me God set us up that way: things we love and enjoy we simply love and enjoy without much thought (and recently we've been admonish that gratitude for these things keep them increasing). Things we don't enjoy and that are injurious, we feel actual pain/distress from, so we pay puhlenty of attention to it. You cannot ignore that a fire will burn you and kill you. If you go on about your business and ignore it--it's not going to go away and you will get burned. You also cannot ignore when a member of your tribe goes insane and starts attacking you or your loved ones. So there are two solutions represented even here on this forum:

One seems to be: 'finding the insanity within oneself'' and healing it inside while ignoring the outer 'manifestation'. The Other seems to be, act as if everything is real and respond to it within your own life rules as best you can and see what happens, even knowing that all is an illusion.

While finding how you are like the insane person and 'fixing' that is certainly a worthwhile activity and will help you and others from becoming insane, how do you address that part of you 'out there' that has lost it before it does real/imaginary damage? I know full well how strongly illusions can affect people, having worked in several industries that utilizes illusion to the maximum. Even in the films about The Matrix, Neo actually physically fought though he knew all was a carefully staged illusion. He simultaneously sat in the special chair 'dreaming' the action--and participated in the action of his dream. And the film made the point that if you died in the dream, you died in the chair also. If it's 'out there', even though they are 'acting out' YOUR 'inner insanity', it deserves attention.

Maybe the thing is to try and conquer that outside insanity with the same compassion you would show yourself. Maybe that is the morality play we are acting in on our World Stage.

If you run across something that displeases you, then putting your awareness on what it is-what you would rather it be or not be--what you would like it to be MORE, is just the prescription.

Just my two-and-half cents/sense

[anthrovolution]

What two subjects should never be brought up at the dinner table? Politics and Religion.
What two subject should never be brought up at work? Politics and Religion.
What two subject do we talk about a lot here? Politics and Religion.

A certain element of fear, anger, resentment, anxiety always accompany these subjects. It goes with the territory. This is rough terrain, with rocks, and thorns, and briers, and nasty stinging biting things.

As has been mentioned before, we arm ourselves, we dress ourselves in the protective clothing of Love, and we will make it through.

If you are faced with a fearful thing, whether real or imagined, whether of this realm or a demonic one, face it squarely, peacefully, and show it your Love. It is amazing how fast they disappear.

[Katherine]

Hi all.....

Did no one read the Celestine Prophecies? These 'mind parasites' are nothing more than classic 'control dramas'. The fourth insite is about the ones who are trying to build themselves up by securing energy from other human beings. They do this by seeking to manipulate or dominate the others attention - then they feel a 'boost' from the others energy, making them stronger - and leaving that person weak. They win in gaining your energy by getting a 'reaction' from the participants of the forum. If/when you recognize this attempt...simply send them as much energy (love) as you 'feel' they need - remembering to stay focused and centered yourself. This will then help them and save you (your energy)

Keep in mind that it is not helpful to rebuke others for their limiting attitudes. Everyone evolves at their own pace. They are still on their path to enlightenment (as we all are).
......excerpts from Celestine Prophecy....
Be kind to each other - there are enough wars in the world :wub2:

Love & Light
K

[Theresa]

I agree with you, Zynox. It's not a lot to ask that people RESPECTFULLY offer counter points of view. It's just about growing up.

If, however, someone isn't able, or willing to be "grown up", I can choose to let it go, not respond, and then not feed it energy, you know?

Fortunately, only a very few times so far on the forum I've noticed that. I feel that energy and immediately scroll on down. I would say to people, nothing can be gained by being hostile, or even patronizing, because it justs turns people off to hearing your point of view. On the other hand, my BIGGEST social pet peeve, I think, is political correctness. I don't think that's at ALL what you are suggesting we embrace, Zynox, just asking for CONSCIOUS posting of opinions and sharing. So, whatya all say? Let's play nice and be smart at the same time :wink2:

[Esteban]

http://psychicvampirism.com/index.html

very intesrestins site! i think that kind of people are indeed very dangerous. but really...you are WAY far out if you are claiming that there's that kind of people in the forum. if there are people like that in the forum (wich i don't believe) they don't represent a real threat. what i've seen is nothing but healthy debate.

[SkyWatcher]

Many of the subjects we touch on in this site are hot topics. With so much information available, opinions can change daily. Taking a step back from our feelings will allow us to cool off and sometimes come at something from a different angle.

We need to respect where the other person is coming from, after all, maybe, just yesterday we were walking in their shoes???

The beauty of this site, is that there are so many diverse opinions, with the goal(s) to help and support each other through whatever may come our way.:cheers:

[Zynox]

You sense them showing up? It could be my fault, sorry, they don't like me getting out much....

Rolling on this, thank you, I love spiritual humor, and you, NB, have brought me a moment of bliss with the syntax slinging! Many days I find reminders not to take myself and my experiences so seriously!!!

Namaste!

[Sunnely]

I dont know what it is that has happened.
But I wouldnt be surprised if theres someone that is perhaps "following" certain individuals around on the net, that has been thrown out of other forums, cuz the person is sick, obsessive and acts out those needs online.

So, please bare that in mind, that some just are not getting the message, and has "trashed" forums before.

Not saying this is the case here, just a reminder about the sad reality "out there".

[empathy]

Yes... I already have shown my true colors... I must try my best to respect everyone here, and no matter how different our realities may be. I will strive and find a balance. Thank you very much for jostling me.

[clarkkent]

agreed zynox, and being postive and respectful towards others doesnt mean censoring them "captain obvious" he's just saying be nice when you disagree.
ive already seen one guy get nasty on an econmic topic for zero reason ...typical "flame war" type of aggravated posting.

i think zynox is just saying disagree all ya want just be chill and nice.
not so tough methinks eh?

[matrix]

Conflict and disagreement are neutral, it is what we do with it that can be positive or negative.

I have also sensed a few "trouble makers", I then went to the track record of their posts - in one case more than 70% of posts were argumentative and/or insulting in energy/intent, with a few "I am sorry if I offended you" type posts in between, just to start the negativety again - I then simply resolve not to take any bait from that person. Refuse to dance their dance with them - it takes two to tango...

We have to accept that forums like these will also attract "the trolls" who are intent on creating dis-harmony - A message to them: THERE IS WAY TO MUCH LOVE AND LIGHT ON THIS FORUM FOR YOU TO SUCCEED!!

I feel blessed to be part of this Project Avalon Dynamics...:biggrin2:
Namaste

[Steve_G]

Sunnyrap wrote:

"What I am referring to is the idea that you should not give 'negative thought forms' 'energy' by talking about them or even focussing on them. As if that will give them more life. As if not talking or thinking about them will rob them of life and they'll go away. I must respectfully disagree with this idea, which I believe comes from the whole "Matrix", "The Secret" and "Law of Attraction" concepts, which are certainly valid, but I feel might easily be getting misinterpreted or maybe over-simplified in how the laws play out in our current universe."

I see what you're saying but I saw something like this happen on the Open Minds forum. Everything was fine, respectful etc until someone started a thread by making a groundless and negative statement about the people on the forum and the Project Camelot interviews. It was three sentences long.

Within 3 weeks there had been over 60 replies and over 2000 views. Meanwhile the original poster (IMO) just sat back and laughed.

It demonstrates just how big an impact baseless negativity can have. Instead of simply ignoring him (and I was guilty of this too) people got into a pointless debate about it and those 3 original sentences exploded into a huge, negative and pointless thread.

Energy flows where attention goes. I don't regret getting involved because it was an important lesson for me, but I wouldn't make the same mistake again.

If threads like this start appearing here I won't be getting involved. :wink2:

[matrix]

Sunnyrap wrote:


Energy flows where attention goes. I don't regret getting involved because it was an important lesson for me, but I wouldn't make the same mistake again.

If threads like this start appearing here I won't be getting involved. :wink2:

Agree fully! And the more of us do it, the less disruptive they will be...

[Captain Obvious]

Hi clarkkent,
Yes, I think a flame war is a road not going anywhere. - Regarding censorship, in the story I posted, I made a point about it, and was censored. That is, one specific word. :naughty: But as I wrote in another thread, the builders and the moderators should clean the house they've invited us into as they see fit.

Bottom line, I think this has turned out to be a good debate. :original:

[Zynox]

The recent movie the Great Debaters impacted me deeply, in reminding me (in the last scene) that the path to another's heart is from one's own ... and that if the true intent in communication is to communicate, then it is the personal story and energy of one's self that genuinely influences others in 'productive' ways, certainly not acidic flames and fury ... fwiw ...

Namaste!

[elias]

Great post Zynox :original:

Somebody had to tell this, In my opinion any kind of criticism is unhealthy, and only love and respect is healthy, everything is possible, so we want the beautiful and hopeful possibilities.

Hopefully this forum will shoot off the positive side, and increase the vibration of the planet, from different points. Let's help eachother raise the vibration, and make the world a more peaceful place by using our consciousness. :biggrin2:

NAMASTE

[21sept]

There is something beautiful taking place. The spoken word is disappearing and we are communicating with feelings and energy. I am so glad we are touching. peace

Hello 777 TGW if I may be so bold as to call you a shortened version of your name. A gentle version of Nail and Head came to mind as I read your post, and you hit it perfectly ☆

[lock'N'load]

The recent movie the Great Debaters impacted me deeply, in reminding me (in the last scene) that the path to another's heart is from one's own ... and that if the true intent in communication is to communicate, then it is the personal story and energy of one's self that genuinely influences others in 'productive' ways, certainly not acidic flames and fury ... fwiw ...

Namaste!

There is a lot of wisdom to be gotten from your posts Zynox and in the short time ive been here ive already learned a thing or two from you.

I do admit i can be guilty of sometimes being to headstrong when it comes to certain issues, most often when someone is being rude first.
But then thats just rising to their bait isnt it, ive just adopted a 'take no s**t' attitudeover the years but ive come to realise now that all this ever does is bring trouble on myself and makes the situation worse.

To defeat negativity you must use positivity, the old say'n "fight fire with fire" just doesnt cut it.

Thank you for posting this.

[Zynox]

L-n-L,

I was also once very aggressive, which i attribute to being born Leo aligned, and that astrologically, my path has been partly about embracing the truth of the alignment and evolving through taking the Leo's energy of fire and learning to anneal with it, as opposed to destroy. Linda Goodman's work was instrumental in this process.

I have had a gun in my face and looked into the furious eyes of demons and organic portals, and found, myself reflected each time. The last genuine conflict I remember was having an upper echelon Police supervisor in my face threaten me with physical harm if I ever was critical of her again (this after a business meeting where I informed the entire project team I would depart the meeting and get down to useful business if the digressions in the meeting weren't realigned). In that moment, I was more calm, and in duality, more fluxed, than anytime in my life. I gently expressed "message received, is there anything else?" and as she diffused, confused, and swept away, I knew my entire life had changed ...

Namaste!

[I_Am]

I totally agree!
You don't grow many flowers by threatning them with draught, nor by giving them acid.

:sneaky2:

Great post Zynox :original:

Somebody had to tell this, In my opinion any kind of criticism is unhealthy, and only love and respect is healthy, everything is possible, so we want the beautiful and hopeful possibilities.

Hopefully this forum will shoot off the positive side, and increase the vibration of the planet, from different points. Let's help eachother raise the vibration, and make the world a more peaceful place by using our consciousness. :biggrin2:

NAMASTE

[RubyTuesday]

I've noticed the same and it was natural and expected. We are so very strong it boggles the mind...some come to feed, some come to diminish by causing self doubt or by using ridicule...

Hold on to your higher truth. :wub2:

[21sept]

Yes BUUUUURT, are we making a community here ??!?

thought so !

We are neighbours :mfr_omg: and I am enjoying all the conversation over a cup of coffee ain't life just great.

It is a pleasure to be in the same space as all of you, thank you. :mfr_lol:

[Trishsgate]

I see what you're saying but I saw something like this happen on the Open Minds forum. Everything was fine, respectful etc. until someone started a thread by making a groundless and negative statement about the people on the forum and the Project Camelot interviews. It was three sentences long.

Within 3 weeks there had been over 60 replies and over 2000 views. Meanwhile the original poster (IMO) just sat back and laughed.

I have to agree with the above statements. I have been on several forums that started accomplishing something positive and one by one the negative innuendos, stalking, and just page after page of nonsense threads were created. Some by newbies, others by people who got angry over another post, etc. What I observed happening was too many people focused on the person(s) and little by little the productive work was deteriorating. It eventually turned into nothing more than a chat room.

I do believe in a healthy dialogue\debate if it is needed because that is how we dissect our information and come to some sort of validity. I do hope that we all agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion's having said that IMO it is all up for debate from someone's point of view. I try to remember that and be courteous as I can if it goes somewhere I don't want to be, end of discussion. We cannot be provoked unless we allow it.

[lock'N'load]

I see what you're saying but I saw something like this happen on the Open Minds forum. Everything was fine, respectful etc. until someone started a thread by making a groundless and negative statement about the people on the forum and the Project Camelot interviews. It was three sentences long.

Within 3 weeks there had been over 60 replies and over 2000 views. Meanwhile the original poster (IMO) just sat back and laughed.
eventually turned into nothing more than a chat room.


Im pretty sure that the moderators on this forum will keep this in mind when handling certain issues that may arise.

Its not cencership to delete foul, argumentative posts. And before people think of playing the freedom of speech card they should first understand that they must use courtesy and show respect when talking to other individuals.

I will be very dissapointed if i see this kind of behaviour going on unobserved. There is a line, and i fully agree that if you cross it your post should be deleted. There is free speach and then theres being a Jackass, there is no room for jackass's here.

[Son of Eire]

With you all the way on that man.
Keep it respectfull

[lock'N'load]

L-n-L,

I was also once very aggressive, which i attribute to being born Leo aligned, and that astrologically, my path has been partly about embracing the truth of the alignment and evolving through taking the Leo's energy of fire and learning to anneal with it, as opposed to destroy.

Namaste!


Its interesting that you say that Zynox. I was born a very calm and sensitive person, but as soon as i was cast into the world i felt the need to change myself in order to survive. I literally had to learn how to be aggresive as i had the impression that this was a dog eat dog world. Funnily enough all this did was bring trouble on me that i would not have experienced if i had not deviated from my natural demenour.

[Ethel]

Folks,

As gently as possible, i deliver this observation:

This forum has attracted a host of mind parasites and the contagion is spreading. This energy expresses, initially, as frustration and then advances to present itself as harsh and abrasive words and [Edit add] harsh and abrasive [Edit end] rejections of ideas.

Each of us may become carriers, without full conscious recognition.

There are a variety of immunization techniques, but I humbly request we each hold integrity and respect.

We are only targeted as a community because we have power, and because we are (R)evolutionary ...

If you, You, YOU are an enlightened and loving radiant being, or strive towards that path, please, exercise respect, tolerance and love in every communication here.

We all carry our conditioning, biases and memes, and, we all carry creative spark and choice, sovereign choice.

WE ALL HOLD SLICES OF THE TRUTH, NONE OF US COULD POSSIBLY HAVE THE WHOLE TRUTH ON THIS PLANE.

I have been possessed, with a variety of quite 'nasty', 'ugly' and 'repulsive' parasites and negative energies (spirits, demons, pick a label ...), I know the signs, I have crawled the path.

LLLLLLLLLL
OOOOOOO
VVVVVVVV
EEEEEEEEE

&

PEACE
PEACE
PEACE
PEACE

Zynox

Sometimes we have the tendency to blame others or outside objects for our issues when really we can control every aspect of our lives through our will. By doing so we further expand ourselves and come to know ourselves in greater magnitude. It's by our will, our desire to exist and further be, that we feed into the illusion of existence. It's through our nonexistence that we are free to be whatever we will.

[TranceAm]

Sometimes we have the tendency to blame others or outside objects for our issues when in really we can control every aspect of our lives through our will. By doing so we further expand ourselves and come to know ourselves in greater magnitude. It's by our will, our desire to exist and further be, that we feed into the illusion of existence. It's through our nonexistence that we are free to be whatever we will.

Is that is a way saying that trawlers show us as neon signs next to our path how far we are on our way for enlightenment? Like the Sirens of Homer? Like the Loreley?
And if they manage to plant that hook into you, and make you react out of fear, or anger... Instead of letting it go, They enable you learn you something about yourself..

But only if you want that... (Of course, the task of the moderators should be that the distractions don't go to far on the tangent.)

Total Input Line = Osho Zen Tarot Trawlers Sirens Loreley

Awareness -> http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/TarotCardNew.cfm?All=Yes&Nr=08 ->
http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/picCards/zen008Awareness.jpg


Lets for once do something new, and different..
Don't react to posts you see as negative.. Just let them go. Instead of fighting it.
Can we please be real adults here, that don't mind that some children try to play among us? The fact that some want to play, doens't mean we have to participate.

Just my opinion..

[Zynox]

Sometimes we have the tendency to blame others or outside objects for our issues when really we can control every aspect of our lives through our will. By doing so we further expand ourselves and come to know ourselves in greater magnitude.


Thank you Ethel for the sage wisdom.


It's by our will, our desire to exist and further be, that we feed into the illusion of existence. It's through our nonexistence that we are free to be whatever we will.

This part, however, bends my mind, I haven't yet embraced the philosophy of so many which postulate that you give up will/desire and gain your will. I keep trying to know it, feel it, and yet it is, for me, most elusive! Even when I forget about it, it doesn't come to me! Smiles!

Namaste

[Frank Samuel]

Hello everyone I am very happy that project avalon has given us an opportunity to present our views. Yes we all have diferent experiences, ideas , political affiliations ,spiritual and religious beliefs, however we all seek to understand, grow and touch the lives of others . It is because of this that we should respect the views of each other. We all get a little upset when through the use of writting our words may not be fully understood and on the lighter side often reading some of the threads sometimes I laugh, get baffled, get angry, get weirded -out or get inspire. Lets promote friendly disagreetments without RIDULE. Because anybody from outside this forum reading the subject of the threads will think of us as weirdos and freaks anyway. I am gulity of letting off some steam for which I later regreted. So to all love, peace and lets continue learning from each other even if we disagree on the subject matter express on the forum. Thank you Bill and Kerry
for project avalon .:wub2:

[Andre]

The truth is that we need to be better thinkers, acting with love and embracing each other. We must not let our differences become lines that divide us, but realize that we become better beings by understanding and compromising with others.

[isorec]

To love all is to even love the difference. Best to remain tolerant of these things, spread love even to your enemies. For to fight them is to further the negativity, instead all you have to say is, "your opinion has been respected, i am grateful to have heard your truth, altho it is differen't then mine, i still love you all the same." :biggrin2:

Toleration and respect have always been keys to this. :original:


The truth is that we need to be better thinkers, acting with love and embracing each other. We must not let our differences become lines that divide us, but realize that we become better beings by understanding and compromising with others.

:biggrin2::biggrin2::bleh:

[2infinityandbeyond]

The truth is that we need to be better thinkers, acting with love and embracing each other. We must not let our differences become lines that divide us, but realize that we become better beings by understanding and compromising with others.

When we let our differences divide us we loose the power that is manifested when we work in unity as a whole. Each persons difference is an expansion onto ourselves and must be greeted with love and acceptance.

Peace and harmony to you brother.

Namaste

[Norval]

:yikes:Now this was a trip to read.

[Zynox]

From a private message, which I respect greatly:

I'm not trying to pick a fight, be a "mind parasite," or any of the jazz, but I think the whole notion that heated exchanges have no value is wrong. Heated exchanges do not inherently mean incivility. Heated exchange can be the byproduct of intelligent debate. That is, as long as it remains intlligent and on point. I think that you, and some others on this forum forget that negativity is not necessarily "bad." The ancients knew this, and did not seek to eradicate negativity, but to balance it. It has its place as part of our mental condition. Good things can come of negativity and heated debate.

With that said, I find most of your comments thoughtful, and find great value in your writing. Given the overwhelming focus on economic issues, is your professional background rooted in economics?


Greetings and thank you for the contact and feedback.

I'll reflect your words back, and totally agree that "It has its place as part of our mental condition.". I want to work towards abandoning that influence, as I do NOT see it as a balancing energy, but, in fact, a parasite. PERIOD - This is my perception and slice of truth, other's have their own. Perhaps just because the ancients 'knew' this is exactly why we all are still in a sandbox full of cat****. They may indeed have known, and some cherished it perhaps, but it doesn't remove the possibility that it is a foreign installation in our psyche, in my opinion.

However, I don't base my preference on anything beyond my experience (including in depth reading), which is a deep feeling of disconnection when things, all things, get aggressive. Assertive I respect, and perhaps it is a weakness. I enjoy the Four Agreements and work towards getting there on the "Don't Take Anything Personal", yet really resonate more with "Be Impeccable With Your Word".

As for the economics, I have twenty years of armchair type study, and learned best, actually, from the novel / muse Cra$hmaker. I know economics is the 3d physical juice of the machine, and a tool, to be used for construction ... leaving the only question of what shall we construct.

My artisan endeavors are in seeking to be kind, seeking to connect, prose, photography and for $'s, electrical construction management consulting.

~ namaste ~

[Stephen]

Sometimes we have the tendency to blame others or outside objects for our issues when really we can control every aspect of our lives through our will. By doing so we further expand ourselves and come to know ourselves in greater magnitude. It's by our will, our desire to exist and further be, that we feed into the illusion of existence. It's through our nonexistence that we are free to be whatever we will.
(I do not think this has been quoted enough...hehe)

My Father said something similar to me.
He said: "90% of our problems in life is caused by ourselves."

Trust me...I am still trying to 'Learn/Grok' that little piece of advice today.
He said this to me when I was around 20 years old....
It has always stuck with me.

Blaming Others is a National Pastime anymore.
Or so it seems....
Accepting Responsibility for our own actions is a lost art....

When it comes to how we treat others many, many of us have forgoten the Golden Rule.
It seems that people would rather be 'right' and hear themselves talk then paying attention to how they say what they say.
Taking a few extra minutes to 'Salt Your Words' before speaking/typing them would do wonderful things in my opinion.

It is not what we say but, how we say it...

[Norval]

Blaming Others is a National Pastime anymore.
Or so it seems....
Accepting Responsibility for our own actions is a lost art....

well said Old Dood :thumb_yello:

[PodWORLD]

I've always found that 'posts' seem to be a mix of what we would normally say and what we 'think' with that little inner voice.

[Zynox]

It is not what we say but, how we say it...

Dood, welcome back, and I reflect, how fast we use the EDIT button.

... a most cool / awesome feature in this software > EDIT ... I have INCREASED my respect for many based on watching what they edited away ... and attribute it to sincere attempts, to, battle the parasitic infections ...

hey, I got worms, that said, I take probiotics ... and, I EDIT ...

~ namaste / Got Worms / Parasites? ~

[Wildfire]

Planet Earth and i talk alot, she tells me there are pretty much two groups in this world. The first is the unawaken, the ipod loony, who doesn't care that the forests, our future breathe is being destroyed. They just want the latest gadget. The other group is the awakened , however they seem to be angry at each other, or the illuminati, the governments, the world banks, the "New World Order" as well as the unawaken. Both groups do not serve me. I want you to realise that every thought feeling and action create my tomorrows. start with love and end with love.
Follow "Good words to live by" and have some respect for all that grace this world.
Are you perfect? Love all of yourself, which means everybody who is here, as anything you see in this world that you don't like is a reflection of you, or you would not attract it into your life.
We all make mistakes and all mistakes can be forgiven. Be a loving Powerful creator at this very special and magical time.
That will give me, Planet Earth, the creative energy and love i seek.
Planet Earths humble opinion for you humans to ponder over!
love to everyone, even g.w.bush!
ha ha wildfire!!!!!!!

[EpiphaMe]

... sort of like "you spot it, you got it?" I spotted it before & got it, which is why I still see it... can't unrecognize experience! Which is why many of us admit & invlude our own parasitic infestation when discussing the subject of negativity. I admire many here, the manner of their words, and in email, that can be an outright challenge at times.

and, Oh Ethel (echo echo).. I too wish you return to help understand this you wrote: [ "It's by our will, our desire to exist and further be, that we feed into the illusion of existence. It's through our nonexistence that we are free to be whatever we will".]

As for the edit button, some times I wish for an automatic "park it" feature that kicks it back after a short while....! It is a practice indeed choosing words wisely, especially email, no tone of voice or facial expressions, not to mention I'm a potty mouth. I remember well those matchdotcom fiascos........(smirks)

It can be sort of like becoming a former smoker, all of a sudden, other smokers are deemed suicide machines. Same w/self awareness, some are farther along the road of practice, some haven't even started. And it can gripe me bumm to no end sometimes (giggles)... get to catch myself again! It goes on n on n on...

What about all the looooooooooooooooove ? I'm about love-sick, you? (paleeze, I'm just jokin')

[Racsouran]

this is scary. This was just one more humble opinion, i hope i don´t get lapidated by that.

i mean that the true path of advancing is to yourself be able to handle the fact that your way it´s not the only one, and that love, light and truth are not the only right paths to take. And still, that beings not entirely based on those three feelings, could make in the end a very significative, and positive difference, wich is, obviously, beyond your understanding if you feel positive emotions are the excuse to act positively towards every other living or not living thing around you.

But seems humans need 3000 years more to evolve to that point.

[2infinityandbeyond]

But seems humans need 3000 years more to evolve to that point.

3,000 years. Interesting. Where did you learn that?

[Racsouran]

3,000 years. Interesting. Where did you learn that?

From myself as an example. It is NOT a cathegorically assumption.

[2infinityandbeyond]

From myself as an example. It is NOT a cathegorically assumption.

3,000 years feels about right.

[Zynox]

Racsouran,

I want, and humbly request, that you expand greatly upon the teasing bits of wisdom you forwarded. I sincerely want to 'hear' what you have to say.

I confess, I understood nothing of what you wrote, and it is probably both a language barrier and my filters.

Really, REALLY, I want to see you write more, please!

~ namaste ~

[Zynox]

Greetings,

In the day away from Avalon, I have been in voice and e-mail contact with several of the ground crew contacts I have met here. This has been wonderful, and I also received one e-mail contact where an interesting exchange commenced and then became very full of negative energy.

I feel in these cases, each will find their own unique best path to respond, but in my case I have elected to inform the party that I don't elect to engage in their negativity, keeping the justifications minimal, and then marking them as simple spam to avoid further unnecessary contacts.

This becomes easier as I simply hold consciousness with a question:

Where do I choose to focus my own energy?

On some levels, there seems little point in debating my slice and/or perception of truth.

~ Message Received. Thank you for your input. ~

[Jenny]

:thumb_yello: Zynox.

Zjen

[Frank Samuel]

Lets be positive and give thought to all the great things we can contribute
to help each other in the coming days. Iregardless of wether we have the same beliefs, lets contribute information, research, ideas, love ,positiveness.
In a friendly and respectful manner lets spread love...
Love and peace to all :wub2::wub2::wub2::biggrin2:

[THE eXchanger]

:thumb_yello: To Everyone

brightest blessings to all

susan
the eXchanger

[Norval]

I will never "bless" a "mind parasite" EVER ! ! ! They can go to , , , you know where, , :mad3:

Just MY opinion, , :lmao:

[THE eXchanger]

I will never "bless" a "mind parasite" EVER ! ! ! They can go to , , , you know where, , :mad3:

Just MY opinion, , :lmao:

:thumb_yello: NORVAL

[Norval]

Quite frankly Frank, , you don't deserve what WE know, , , , this is WAR, information war. Get the hint?

[Gnosis5]

It's sometimes like a marriage: someone pushes your buttons the wrong way, you push back, the argument starts heatedly. You keep talking until the sun goes down, if that's what it takes to smooth things out.

This only works if both sincerely want to smooth things out and don't have some other purpose (like pushing buttons and getting a reaction).

There are also some rules about expressing things in writing and I still need to learn about this. Sometimes I do not adequately convey my tone when I write something and it might come across as differently than the way I meant it to.

It seems that when writing one needs to put in extra flourishes, thus we have "lol" and smilies, etc.



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Gnosis