Where's the proof?

[TruthWalker]

I would like to see some proof that anyone can offer in regards to anything paranormal or off-world. I am not after links to photos online, or videos, because anyone could have made them and there's no way to know if people are creating fake photos. So, I want to see what members around "here" have (personally) gathered. Any photos? Any recordings? X-rays? Photos of scoop marks? Police report saying you were missing for 3 days? Any UFO's? Anything at all?

I am not interested too much in stories, because I know perfectly well that most people make them up so that they can fit in and relate to the excitement. There are stories all over the Internet. I know most people don't have proof and that's fine, but if anyone DOES have anything to physically show or demonstrate, that would go down really well with me.

[Carrie1971]

I would like to see some proof that anyone can offer in regards to anything paranormal or off-world. I am not after links to photos online, or videos, because anyone could have made them and there's no way to know if people are creating fake photos. So, I want to see what members around "here" have (personally) gathered. Any photos? Any recordings? X-rays? Photos of scoop marks? Police report saying you were missing for 3 days? Any UFO's? Anything at all?

I am not interested too much in stories, because I know perfectly well that most people make them up so that they can fit in and relate to the excitement. There are stories all over the Internet. I know most people don't have proof and that's fine, but if anyone DOES have anything to physically show or demonstrate, that would go down really well with me.

Any photos? Police reports?

Most people Make them up??

Energy to answer your post takes time.

Explain to me what is time?

How about LOVE... ?????

Physically we who are posting on this message board at this time are all in the place of TIME...

What goes down well "or not" with you is about YOU...

I have no idea or even a tiny clue why you are here on this place. What proof do you have that you can show us you are real???

Life is a gift your soul was given to be HERE in TIME. NOW..

[waitinginthewings]

Carrie: me thinks that we have the troll back under yet another name:naughty:

[Phr0z3n]

Honestly I would say the best proof to anyone would be to go to a known place of paranormal activity and do some EVP(Electronic Voice Phenomena) readings. My girlfriend's cousin has a haunted house and has done many EVP readings while alone. I won't step near that house after hearing some of them and seeing the claw marks on her cousin's arms and neck.

[TruthWalker]

I will ignore the trouble causing, negative trolls above.

Honestly I would say the best proof to anyone would be to go to a known place of paranormal activity and do some EVP(Electronic Voice Phenomena) readings. My girlfriend's cousin has a haunted house and has done many EVP readings while alone. I won't step near that house after hearing some of them and seeing the claw marks on her cousin's arms and neck.

Yes, I do believe that a lot of places experience paranormal activity. I also believe that it can be measured. Do you have any of the results for those readings?

[Phr0z3n]

Do you have any of the results for those readings?

Unfortunately, no. :sad: He has them all saved to his digital recorder. When I listened to them though there is definitely something there with him. The entity has mentioned several times that certain people are not welcome and that they should leave. You would hear a name come through in an eerily clear and scary voice and then it would say get out now.

This is also on a native american reservation and after talking with some of the family members, there is definitely history with that property in particular.

[TruthWalker]

Unfortunately, no. :sad: He has them all saved to his digital recorder. When I listened to them though there is definitely something there with him. The entity has mentioned several times that certain people are not welcome and that they should leave. You would hear a name come through in an eerily clear and scary voice and then it would say get out now.

This is also on a native american reservation and after talking with some of the family members, there is definitely history with that property in particular.

Is there any chance you can get a hold of that recording and post it?

[Phr0z3n]

I'm heading that way for Xmas so I'll see what I can do.

[TruthWalker]

I'm heading that way for Xmas so I'll see what I can do.

Very good. Looking forward to hearing it.

Since you're going there -- some photos of the house would be nice.

[Greenberet]

I would like to see some proof that anyone can offer in regards to anything paranormal or off-world. I am not after links to photos online, or videos, because anyone could have made them and there's no way to know if people are creating fake photos. So, I want to see what members around "here" have (personally) gathered. Any photos? Any recordings? X-rays? Photos of scoop marks? Police report saying you were missing for 3 days? Any UFO's? Anything at all?

I am not interested too much in stories, because I know perfectly well that most people make them up so that they can fit in and relate to the excitement. There are stories all over the Internet. I know most people don't have proof and that's fine, but if anyone DOES have anything to physically show or demonstrate, that would go down really well with me.

Hey, The proof I have is with orgonites, I did some meditation and took some pictures and see orbs arround me, I can show the to you if you want but you might say its photoshoped....

Cheers....

[TruthWalker]

Hey, The proof I have is with orgonites, I did some meditation and took some pictures and see orbs arround me, I can show the to you if you want but you might say its photoshoped....

Cheers....

Why might I say it's photoshopped?

Is it?

[beren]

Did you ever saw UFO?

Did you ever saw an actual alien?

I wasn´t.

[TruthWalker]

Did you ever saw UFO?

Did you ever saw an actual alien?

I wasn´t.

Yes (although I don't call it an alien)..

..and yes. I have photos.

I'd love to get back to all that once this forum allows a bloke to have a fair go.

But no, the posting rights of a bunch of jokers and clowns is more "important"..

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

lol@ this thread:nono:

[TruthWalker]

lol@ this thread:nono:

*needs moderation*

Useless response.

[gscraig]

Pardon me, and no disrespect intended Truthwalker, but...Who are you?

Why does anyone on this planet have to prove something to you, yet alone anyone on this forum?

If this forum and those whom are on it do not meet the standards you are seeking, then perhaps ceasing to visit is your best resolve.

Now, here's the self created conodrum you are placing yourself into. If you don't get the proof, does that mean you will find this forum a waste of time?
or will you continue to visit this site and post after openly questioning the forum and it's members relevance?

[TruthWalker]

Pardon me, and no disrespect intended Truthwalker, but...Who are you?

Why does anyone on this planet have to prove something to you, yet alone anyone on this forum?

If this forum and those whom are on it do not meet the standards you are seeking, then perhaps ceasing to visit is your best resolve.

Now, here's the self created conodrum you are placing yourself into. If you don't get the proof, does that mean you will find this forum a waste of time?
or will you continue to visit this site and post after openly questioning the forum and it's members relevance?

Totally off-topic.

No answer needed.

edit I'll answer the last sentence (because I know people will say YOU DIDN'T ANSWER!, even though it's a disingenuous question): I will continue to post. I'll create other topics.

[Kamikaze]

I don't have any special proof of myself to prove it really in any way whit regards to photos, recording or whatever.

But I've done some ReverseSpeaking and I can quite often get responds to whatever I say and then listen to it in reverse. Sometimes almost like a conversation gets going. This is the only "real" of anything I can produce that may give anything repeatable or such. But it's not conclusive in any way. There are many schools of thought on how you should go about using ReverseSpeaking. Some more scientific and others more spiritual take on it. I have used it more in the non scientific way open to see what might come through.

It's not all to simple, much much of talk you can't make heads or tails off what "they" want to say. But sometimes you get a nice sentence through to make you feel "uplifted". But there is much BS negative that comes through also if you don't focus you intent and "voice modulation" to higher vibrations so to say. Growly voive produces non nice sayings if you can find coherency in it. More singing happy way usually has better results that I'm after.
But I don't get much and it's time consuming so I don't do it all to often nowadays.
I would say it's easy enough to try to get confirmation about things you might ponder about. But it's hard to interpret. And you kinda have to get yourself "used" to hearing the words and whatnot. You can sometimes hear several diffrent words in one paragraph not sure on which word to choose for the whole. That word can put the whole thing in the negative or the positive depending which you decide to listen to.

ReverseSpeaking has put me to consider the "paranormal" at least in much more seriousness. But I still want to find "proof" of "something" to verify it to myself that there might be something behind some peoples claims.

Other wise I have taken up the practice of lucid dreaming recently try to to get answer or proofs through there. But it will only be proof if any to myself to answer questions I might have through there. I'm still fighting to gain real control in the lucid dreams. It only is like parts of my mind become aware, not the full extent of it yet.

[beren]

Yes (although I don't call it an alien)..

..and yes. I have photos.

I'd love to get back to all that once this forum allows a bloke to have a fair go.

But no, the posting rights of a bunch of jokers and clowns is more "important"..

For God´´s sake man! I-G-N-O-R-E people who are mocking you and get to the point!

You are starting to stress me out!

I am afraid if you continue to bicker around with others( you too -others) I will not listen you, even if it may be THE most important message you might have on this Earth.

Leave them be , start a thread and conversate, but know that if one is not aligned with you , who gives you the right to shut them up?

I do not agree with many here but I do not shut people up!
It is not fair. Give them chance even if they mock you, slowly they will see or have a nice chat with you.

YOu re not helping with this attitude no matter how good you are or what info you have.

[lightblue]

I would like to see some proof that anyone can offer in regards to anything paranormal or off-world. I am not after links to photos online, or videos, because anyone could have made them and there's no way to know if people are creating fake photos. So, I want to see what members around "here" have (personally) gathered. Any photos? Any recordings? X-rays? Photos of scoop marks? Police report saying you were missing for 3 days? Any UFO's? Anything at all?

I am not interested too much in stories, because I know perfectly well that most people make them up so that they can fit in and relate to the excitement. There are stories all over the Internet. I know most people don't have proof and that's fine, but if anyone DOES have anything to physically show or demonstrate, that would go down really well with me.


Truthwalker


This is no court room and you are no judge.

Wonder why do you think anyone needs to prove anything to you or anyone else really?
What would you do with that information? Sell it to you local newspaper?

[TruthWalker]

Truthwalker


This is no court room and you are no judge.

Wonder why do you think anyone needs to prove anything to you or anyone else really?
What would you do with that information? Sell it to you local newspaper?

It's a simple post and a simple request.

If anyone has proof, I'd like to see it.

If people do not - that's fine too.

In either case, there's no point in your response.

[Majorion]

It's a simple post and a simple request.

If anyone has proof, I'd like to see it.

If people do not - that's fine too.

In either case, there's no point in your response.

A better question....

Where's your proof....?

[TruthWalker]

A better question....

Where's your proof....?

I have none to show.

[lightblue]

It's a simple post and a simple request.

If anyone has proof, I'd like to see it.

If people do not - that's fine too.

That's sounds a lot better now.


I' like to make one comment regarding any photos and/or proof providing, in case you have it: there's every reason to theread really very carefully, don't give away your precious documentation to just anybody. Most people here do not need or demand it..we trust each other, don't we?

[TruthWalker]

That's sounds a lot better now.


I' like to make one comment regarding any photos and/or proof providing, in case you have it: there's every reason to theread really very carefully, don't give away your precious documentation to just anybody. Most people here do not need or demand it..we trust each other, don't we?

I am sorry but "we can just trust each other" is rather humorous.

[lightblue]

and so, what are you doing here? as you must have gathered, this is all only claims, claims, claims...
with due respect, it's as if you are trying to squeeze blood out of the stone..it's not gonna happen, I don't think..this lot is a lot wiser ...

[TruthWalker]

and so, what are you doing here? as you must have gathered, this is all only claims, claims, claims...
with due respect, it's as if you are trying to squeeze blood out of the stone..it's not gonna happen, I don't think..this lot is a lot wiser ...

Ignored. Nothing to do with the topic. Baseless whining.

[lightblue]

I think you need some sort of other help in your truth walking mission

best wishes

[TruthWalker]

I think you need some sort of other help in your truth walking mission

best wishes

Ignored. Off topic. Mean.

[lightblue]

it's spot on, only you can't see it.
best of luck

[TruthWalker]

it's spot on, only you can't see it.
best of luck

Ignored. Off topic (again).

[lightblue]

if you ignore you needn't respond..
best of luck

[Sarahmay]

I would like to see some proof that anyone can offer in regards to anything paranormal or off-world. I am not after links to photos online, or videos, because anyone could have made them and there's no way to know if people are creating fake photos. So, I want to see what members around "here" have (personally) gathered. Any photos? Any recordings? X-rays? Photos of scoop marks? Police report saying you were missing for 3 days? Any UFO's? Anything at all?

I am not interested too much in stories, because I know perfectly well that most people make them up so that they can fit in and relate to the excitement. There are stories all over the Internet. I know most people don't have proof and that's fine, but if anyone DOES have anything to physically show or demonstrate, that would go down really well with me.

No, no proof, so you might as well stop asking. Nothing to see here people. Move along.

[TruthWalker]

No, no proof, so you might as well stop asking. Nothing to see here people. Move along.

I don't believe that you know whether anyone has proof of anything or not. If I didn't expect people to be able to provide it, I wouldn't have made the topic. I would appreciate it if people would stop posting off topic remarks and complaints -- and just stick with the topic.

[Céline]

Yes (although I don't call it an alien)..

..and yes. I have photos.

I'd love to get back to all that once this forum allows a bloke to have a fair go.

But no, the posting rights of a bunch of jokers and clowns is more "important"..


i would love to see your evidence....

[Céline]

I have none to show.

Ummm didnt you say, in another post...that you had photos?

or are those not to be shown...?

i am curious why you ask for proof but do not share yours?

[TruthWalker]

Ummm didnt you say, in another post...that you had photos?

or are those not to be shown...?

i am curious why you ask for proof but do not share yours?

I am unable to share them at this moment in time.

[TruthWalker]

i would love to see your evidence....


I would love to show it too.

I found some evidence here (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/album.php?albumid=713)

..which is from a member. However, from what I recall, not too many people allowed that guy to say much of anything and he left.

That's a shame. I am sure he would have had a lot more to share too.

I guess he decided not to bother throwing his pearls..

[Dadrious]

I would love to show it too.

I found some evidence here (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/album.php?albumid=713)

..which is from a member. However, from what I recall, not too many people allowed that guy to say much of anything and he left.

That's a shame. I am sure he would have had a lot more to share too.

I guess he decided not to bother throwing his pearls..

If you're looking for UFO pictures, there's about a million of those out there.

[TruthWalker]

If you're looking for UFO pictures, there's about a million of those out there.

The original topic is asking if anyone "here" has anything personal to share.

I've already seen all the blurry globs, lights and CGI videos all over the Internet.

..not to mention the garbage tin lids that Billy took photos of.

[Céline]

you said you have photos...where are they??

[Dadrious]

The original topic is asking if anyone "here" has anything personal to share.

I've already seen all the blurry globs, lights and CGI videos all over the Internet.

..not to mention the garbage tin lids that Billy took photos of.

Have fun.

[TruthWalker]

you said you have photos...where are they??

They are on my computer.

[Dadrious]

you said you have photos...where are they??

Captain Obvious says: He has no photos, he's just trolling.

[sunny D]

He might be the same person as the one who wrote this

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/a-message-to-the-disinformation-and-fear-movement-t13235.html


Ignore him.........!

[TruthWalker]

Captain Obvious says: He has no photos, he's just trolling.

I have made a post asking for people to show any evidence they have.

You're the troll. Not me.

Ignored.

[Céline]

They are on my computer.

but you also said you have no proof? you contradict yourself...

[Kinsuemei2]

TW so what, their are thousands upon thousands of people that know what is real and what is not, you have an idea, but you have not been in the firing line.
Lets talk truth, you insult people that have had terrifying experiences, for what to massage your own ego because i fail to see what your bringing to the table.

[TruthWalker]

He might be the same person as the one who wrote this

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/a-message-to-the-disinformation-and-fear-movement-t13235.html


Ignore him.........!

Of topic. Created to incite an argument. Ignored.

[Majorion]

Of topic. Created to incite an argument. Ignored.

You are requesting proof for what reason?

Say you get proof right now, then what?

[JesterTerrestrial]

there is no proof.

GOODBYE

[TruthWalker]

TW so what, their are thousands upon thousands of people that know what is real and what is not, you have an idea, but you have not been in the firing line.
Lets talk truth, you insult people that have had terrifying experiences, for what to massage your own ego because i fail to see what your bringing to the table.

I haven't insulted anyone.

[TruthWalker]

there is no proof.

GOODBYE

Unconstructive.

[JesterTerrestrial]

unconstructive.

prove it!

[TruthWalker]

You are requesting proof for what reason?

Say you get proof right now, then what?

Then I will be happy that I created the thread, because that is what I have requested.

[TruthWalker]

prove it!

I will ignore anything you say from this point onwards.

[JesterTerrestrial]

I will ignore anything you say from this point onwards.

Unconstructive.

[TruthWalker]

As a matter of fact, I'm going to ignore the whole lot of you.

When someone has the intellectual capacity to respond to the topic, I'll respond.

However, forgive me if I miss it because the forum is full of vitreous trolls posting spam everywhere.

[JesterTerrestrial]

As a matter of fact, I'm going to ignore the whole lot of you.

When someone has the intellectual capacity to respond to the topic, I'll respond.

However, forgive me if I miss it because the forum is full of vitreous trolls.

Off topic.

[burgundia]

Truthwalker..:flowers2:

[Majorion]

Then I will be happy that I created the thread, because that is what I have requested.

I assume you're requesting proof of UFOs.

Here are some of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bptMpkkjc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I83v6MqRwcQ (follow up)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fXPs7QYTLU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50fm62BIuPY

[lightblue]

ignore ignore ignore him..

[Jack]

The path to finding out the truth about aliens is not something that can be restricted to researching just ufo's and aliens

For anyone to get to a place where they no longer believe, but know that there are extraterrestrial races involved with and watching the human race, and have been doing so for thousands if not millions of years requires much more then one thread, it requires years of research.

Well at least that much is true for myself and anyone else I know personally who has come to that place of knowing.

I really doubt your going to find and definitive answers with just this thread alone, its going to take much more dedication and the level of curiosity necessary to motivate it.

[TruthWalker]

The path to finding out the truth about aliens is not something that can be restricted to researching just ufo's and aliens

For anyone to get to a place where they no longer believe, but know that there are extraterrestrial races involved with and watching the human race, and have been doing so for thousands if not millions of years requires much more then one thread, it requires years of research.

Well at least that much is true for myself and anyone else I know personally who has come to that place of knowing.

I really doubt your going to find and definitive answers with just this thread alone, its going to take much more dedication and the level of curiosity necessary to motivate it.

I agree with all that.

However, I don't see why people can't just post what they have.

If they don't have it, that's fine.

I don't recall saying anywhere that if someone can't produce a photo then I'm going on a psychotic rampage with an axe or anything.

Most of the responses to this thread are just spam and people looking for a reason to beat on someone else.

[burgundia]

Lots of love to you Truthwalker....:wub2:

[lightblue]

jack, look back at all the previous posts and you'll find why it is best to ignore the author named truthwalker

[Jack]

This thread has basically dengenerated into a slagfest and is going nowhere fast.

TruthWalker i might suggest to you that if your threads were not of such a provocative nature then some civilised discussion might take place. But considering you choose to take the other route dont be to suprised if more of your threads end up like this one.

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