Spate of banned members..

[TruthWalker]

There has been a spate of banned members lately.

I have a suggestion. Instead of evicting members that do not easily follow the majority consensus, it might be more appropriate for the community to get together and participate in an intelligent conversation -- with the said member.

You know, communication can do wonders. If I thought these banned members were really trolls, I wouldn't be making this post. However, I can clearly see that they are not. They are more often than not members that do not agree with the forum consensus.

Anyone who goes against the forum consensus around here, and disagrees too often has two things happen: 1). Victimization by a group of regulars who have agreed what the consensus is (note: a new member may not "realize" that what they're saying isn't a forum consensus -- keep that in mind), 2). They are eventually banned for being a "troll". Ironically, if you go through the posts of all concerned, it is the regular members doing all the trolling and making all the insulting and negative comments.

So, My suggestion is: Take it easy with the ban button. Communication and sincerity works a LOT better. I haven't seen that tried around here. All I see are concerns being ignored and regular members being allowed to victimize whoever they like until they get upset, fire back, and are banned.

Do you want a constructive community or not? Then think about this post..

[Boober]

As a new member myself I am curious , who got banned and for what? What type of censorship are discussing here?

[waitinginthewings]

As a new member myself I am curious , who got banned and for what? What type of censorship are discussing here?

WarriorServant, Acora, both got banned. However WarriorServant has come back again today and is operating under other alias's. & truthwalker is one of them.

[TruthWalker]

As a new member myself I am curious , who got banned and for what? What type of censorship are discussing here?

It's not censorship per se. It's just that this forum has a mob of regulars who are free to go around saying what they like to and about other members. Unfortunately it is the newer members that are being banned, because they have trouble dealing with the mob.

To see who got banned, just look at some threads around here. You will see on the left: "banned", "banned", "banned".. then if you go and look at the last posts of the member, you will see that they often said nothing insulting at all, but were simply mobbed by a majority that didn't agree and didn't want to hear what the member said. It is the regular members that are being nasty. It's all right here in plain English for all to see. It's actually a bit of a joke.

[TruthWalker]

WarriorServant, Acora, both got banned. However WarriorServant has come back again today and is operating under other alias's.

It's absolutely pointless to ban people. It makes more sense to work out what the problem is and fix it so the community can run better in the future. Banning anyone people don't like is silly. We all can't like everyone. That's life. Clicking "ban" is weak.

[Phr0z3n]

Truthwalker, I answered your first thread pro-actively. However...I'm stunned that after joining today and starting you're thread-making (4 different threads in less than an hour) and responding to them that you had enough time to see that we had a "spate of banned members lately." I'm simply wondering if you were a lurker and joined recently because of this problem or if you really are a new member who had enough time to look through the past couple days of posts and responses.

I am not accusing you of anything, I'm just amazed quite frankly that you were aware of this problem already.

[TruthWalker]

Truthwalker, I answered your first thread pro-actively. However...I'm stunned that after joining today and starting you're thread-making (4 different threads in less than an hour) and responding to them that you had enough time to see that we had a "spate of banned members lately." I'm simply wondering if you were a lurker and joined recently because of this problem or if you really are a new member who had enough time to look through the past couple days of posts and responses.

I am not accusing you of anything, I'm just amazed quite frankly that you were aware of this problem already.


I am aware of many many things, all about this forum, all about its members and all about the administration. I am here to make sure truth gets a chance.

[BROOK]

You only get banned when you break the rules. And they both broke the rules. They also had plenty of warning before the ban

[orthodoxymoron]

Perhaps there should be a section of Avalon...open only to banned members. You know...sort of an Internet Purgatory...called 'Island of the Banned'...'Banned Members Only'...or 'Rock Banned'! :mad3::lightsabre:

[BROOK]

Perhaps there should be a section of Avalon...open only to banned members. You know...sort of an Internet Purgatory...called the 'Island of the Banned'...or 'Rock Banned'! :mad3::lightsabre:

:lmao: :lmao: :naughty:

[Christo888]

Truthwalker, I answered your first thread pro-actively. However...I'm stunned that after joining today and starting you're thread-making (4 different threads in less than an hour) and responding to them that you had enough time to see that we had a "spate of banned members lately." I'm simply wondering if you were a lurker and joined recently because of this problem or if you really are a new member who had enough time to look through the past couple days of posts and responses.

I am not accusing you of anything, I'm just amazed quite frankly that you were aware of this problem already.

Warrior servant reborn!

[BROOK]

proof of reincarnation :wink2:

[TruthWalker]

:lmao: :lmao: :naughty:

See lets take this response as an example. This is obviously a serious thread. Then regulars come along and act like the proverbial class clown. This is exactly what is happening all over the forum by regulars who couldn't care less about anything that either themselve's or their buddies aren't saying.

[TruthWalker]

proof of reincarnation :wink2:

Irrelevant. Trolling. She does it all over the forums. A most unconstructive, trouble causing member.

[Boober]

Banning happens, everywhere on alll forums lllike this one. What forum out their does not alllow the big "ban" theory. Is this your first time on a forum like this? I have not found one yet that allows anyone to anything they want to whoever they want however they want. So good luck trying to change this fact. Especially coming in as a new member, but I will support ya.

[TruthWalker]

Warrior spirit reborn!

Beside the point.

[PilotSimone]

I'm not very technical, but I'm trying to understand how the same banned person can keep creating aliases over and over again.

Is it just the username that is banned and nothing more?

Just curious.

I need this info in case I get banned. :winksmiley02: :lol3:

[TruthWalker]

I'm not very technical, but I'm trying to understand how the same banned person can keep creating aliases over and over again.

Is it just the username that is banned and nothing more?

Just curious.

I need this info in case I get banned. :winksmiley02: :lol3:

This forum identifies banned members by IP, email, username and cookies.

Clear all the above things and you're set to go again.

Like I said: Banning is not only pointless -- it's weak. I understand banning "real" trouble makers (and those that spread porn), but real trouble makers aren't being banned. People who the majority (including the mods) don't agree with are being banned. It's weak. It's the easy way out. Members who post things that others don't agree with are being victimized and then thrown in the "too hard" basket. It can all be fixed and there's no need for the bans if people will just stop turning threads that they don't agree with into a hate filled mockery fest.

[PilotSimone]

Perhaps there should be a section of Avalon...open only to banned members.

Wouldn't that be just the same person conversing with their 13 different aliases?

"Rock Banned" - :naughty: Nice. :thumb_yello:

[TruthWalker]

Wouldn't that be just the same person conversing with their 13 different aliases?

"Rock Banned" - :naughty: Nice. :thumb_yello:

It's a ridiculous idea that wouldn't solve a single problem.

This forum does not yet get it that allowing members to turn the threads of new members into a big joke is unconstructive. That's where the true problem lies. Until it is identified, mods are just going to keep banning people wondering why the whole world seems to be against them.

Banning people = useless.
Insisting on sincerity and not jokes, mockery and trolling by regulars = BINGO!

[Boober]

I think there should be a mute button , like on chat rooms, if you dont like one particular person you can mute him or her. But people love drama.

[waitinginthewings]

proof of reincarnation :wink2:

or multiple personality disorder:nono:

[TruthWalker]

I think there should be a mute button , like on chat rooms, if you dont like one particular person you can mute him or her. But people love drama.

Wont solve anything. People should just start being more sincere towards others. That's the true remedy of what people perceive to be hassles around here.

[TruthWalker]

or multiple personality disorder:nono:

Irrelevant post. Contributes nothing to the problem.

[BROOK]

This forum identifies banned members by IP, email, username and cookies.

Clear all the above things and you're set to go again.

Like I said: Banning is not only pointless -- it's weak. I understand banning "real" trouble makers (and those that spread porn), but real trouble makers aren't being banned. People who the majority (including the mods) don't agree with are being banned. It's weak. It's the easy way out. Members who post things that others don't agree with are being victimized and then thrown in the "too hard" basket. It can all be fixed and there's no need for the bans if people will just stop turning threads that they don't agree with into a hate filled mockery fest.

This problem of banning is only for those who cannot be social enough to debate. And if you cannot do that constructively...you have no business here.

Hate filled mockery? The only ones that had any hateful response were the ones banned. And prompted it. so being that you are new here..maybe before you decide to be a judge..you might want to go back and read the banned members posts. Then decide. And come back with some constructive thoughts in the matter :thumb_yello:

As you are new here..it might be in your interest to also create some positive threads to assure you are not one of the banned members :naughty:

[TruthWalker]

This problem of banning is only for those who cannot be social enough to debate. And if you cannot do that constructively...you have no business here.

Hate filled mockery? The only ones that had any hateful response were the ones banned. And prompted it. so being that you are new here..maybe before you decide to be a judge..you might want to go back and read the banned members posts. Then decide. And come back with some constructive thoughts in the matter :thumb_yello:

As you are new here..it might be in your interest to also create some positive threads to assure you are not one of the banned members :naughty:

I don't go around proclaiming positive energy. That's useless.

I fix problems. I don't stop until they're fixed.

[Anchor]

Why don't you guys answer his question instead of proving TruthWalker's point?

[TruthWalker]

Why don't you guys answer his question instead of proving TruthWalker's point?

Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:smoke:

[Ross H]

It's absolutely pointless to ban people. It makes more sense to work out what the problem is and fix it so the community can run better in the future. Banning anyone people don't like is silly. We all can't like everyone. That's life. Clicking "ban" is weak.

2 members were banned. Both were PM'ed from Moderators, as a line of communication. Both were given the opportunity to 'review' their statements and to try and fit in.

In regards to 'regular' members, several posts were made by Mods, to all those concerned, to refrain from posting unproductive remarks.

After careful consideration, the Moderator team 'worked out the problem' and action was taken.

[THE eXchanger]

you mods, know how to,
rock it, and, roll it :original:

[TruthWalker]

you mods, know how to,
rock it, and, roll it :original:

Well lets see..

[BROOK]

Why don't you guys answer his question instead of proving TruthWalker's point?

I thought I did. And the truth be told..I actually befriended one of the banned members so to help him get his message out, and concerns. Only for him to go sideways again.

Anchor, you know as well as I that it can get heated out here, where discussion is concerned. But there are rules here too. And I have yet to see you ban anyone unless rules are broken. You and the other mods usually give plenty of warning before a ban.

So I feel this is a moot thread...my opinion only.

[Anchor]

I've seen a few long time PA forum people here act like complete jerks over the past few days.

I know exactly what is going on here. I also know that I cant stop it - but I also know that you can/could - but I wonder if it is likely to happen that way, so I guess we will see how this plays out.

What I want everyone to do is to act reasonably and within the forum guidelines (broadly interpreted)

Let each of us take full personal responsibility for every thought action word and deed, and be in harmony with ourselves and our otherselves.

A..

[14 Chakras]

Truthwalker=M1*=WarriorServant= a man who must begin to recognize Christ in others before he can truly Love God. Respecting others, loving others, understanding others, is Loving God.

For what you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me says the Christ.

Curious however, what exactly do you wish to prove M1*? Why do you continually belittle others posts if they do not meet whatever standard you have set up and try to control the forum like you own it? What's in it for you?

Why do you choose to not have respect for others viewpoints? Why do you wish to participate in a discussion forum when you don't really want to hear what others have to say unless it is exactly what you want to hear?

[TruthWalker]

Truthwalker=M1*=WarriorServant= a man who must begin to recognize Christ in others before he can truly Love God. Respecting others, loving others, understanding others, is Loving God.

For what you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me says the Christ.

Curious however, what exactly do you wish to prove M1*? Why do you continually belittle others posts if they do not meet whatever standard you have set up and try to control the forum like you own it? What's in it for you?

Why do you choose to not have respect for others viewpoints? Why do you wish to participate in a discussion when you don't really want to hear what others have to say unless it is exactly what you want to hear?

People need to respect others opinions and let each other have a say.

A forum following such a spirit will answer all of your questions above.

I can't speak for anyone else - but I am here for serious, sincere and constructive dialog. If I cannot get that, I have to stop and make sure people wake up to themselves before I can continue saying what ever it is I wished to say -- in peace.

I do not attack others. I do not prevent others from voicing their opinion. I do not belittle others. I am a fair person who has been made out to be a troll, when in fact - I am one of the most serious people on this entire forum.

If I didn't care about truth, I wouldn't be shaking the place up. All that I say has a sincere reason. All that I do, even though it seems harsh, is intended to create mature conversation. I know I can't get that done unless I shake a few people. That's sad - but that's life.

[Ross H]

People need to respect others opinions and let each other have a say.

A forum following such a spirit will answer all of your questions above.

I can't speak for anyone else - but I am here for serious, sincere and constructive dialog. If I cannot get that, I have to stop and make sure people wake up to themselves before I can continue saying what ever it is I wished to say -- in peace.

I do not attack others. I do not prevent others from voicing their opinion. I do not belittle others. I am a fair person who has been made out to be a troll, when in fact - I am one of the most serious people on this entire forum.

If I didn't care about truth, I wouldn't be shaking the place up. All that I say has a sincere reason. All that I do, even though it seems harsh, is intended to create mature conversation. I know I can't get that done unless I shake a few people. That's sad - but that's life.

Don't shake to hard my friend, or your message will not get heard.

[TruthWalker]

Don't shake to hard my friend, or your message will not get heard.

My message wasn't getting heard in the first place.

If I didn't think I could make an example out of these people, I wouldn't be sitting here allowing them to make my point for me.

My point is slowly filtering through the forums, and everyone will be better off for it.

Until that time, I do apologize for all the seemingly useless distraction.

[Swanny]

If some one get banned and the general feeling towards that person is they are a twat why would they want to come back. Maybe they are a bit stupid??? :insane:

[14 Chakras]

This forum is no ones personal property. It belongs to many hundreds of people. It is not up to one person to come in and make their truth the truth for the others. This is simply not the way. It is not the way that Jesus taught, it is very disruptive to a community.

Community = Coming into Unity.

People on this forum come from completely and totally different backgrounds. There's no right or wrong here, there are a multitude of viewpoints and each member has a piece of the puzzle of truth. It is love that will take every member higher, not forcing our belief system on them.

Respect it the first key to being a member of any community including this one. Respect for differences.

Many threads may be started by a poster who wants to discuss one particular viewpoint, however, because this is a community, not owned by one person, the thread takes on a life of it's own. The subject will almost always expand from the original post. That is how truth comes out, that is how we learn.

The original poster does not own their thread any more than they own any of the members that are posting in it.

If we don't like what is being said in a thread, it is our choice to ignore it. There is absolutely no reason to tell people what they should and should not be posting.

There is also no reason to be negative with people. People are not here to fight, they are here to learn.

The reality is that we live in a very important time for humanity and this little community and many of it's members have great opportunities to grow in the Light and have their talents multiplied at the right time, to truly be leaders to help humanity move through the great tests it is facing ahead of us.

Love is the only way.

There is another reality, trying to disrupt the flow of a community like this, seeking to destroy it, even inadvertantly, represents a very great misuse of energy, whether or not we understand the concept of Karma, it should be clear that we indeed do reap as we sew.

Sew the wind (disruption, control, trying to control others free will), and we will reap the whirlwind.

Each of us has an opportunity here Now to help this world and to Be Love. To follow the words of Jesus rather than the words of the false churches that have hijacked his message using fear rather than love.

This is the opportunity for all of us. Why not choose the side of Light rather than the side of wanting to control others thoughts, posts and actions?

Let them Be, and you Be, and we'll all Be.

What do you say? Why not give it a try?

[TruthWalker]

If some one get banned and the general feeling towards that person is they are a twat why would they want to come back. Maybe they are a bit stupid??? :insane:

I assure you I am not even close to stupid.

It is comments like this on the forum that cause distraction.

[Swanny]

No it's people like you that cause distraction :tongue2:

[waitinginthewings]

No it's people like you that cause distraction :tongue2:

Oh Swanny...but he is so much fun....our warriorservant:lmfao:

[TruthWalker]

You're just proving my point for me people.

[Swanny]

You're just proving my point for me people.

So why stay???

[BROOK]

No it's people like you that cause distraction :tongue2:

Now Swanny..have you started working for the GFL... :lmao: Out to distract us all with that darn Wabbit :tongue2:

[waitinginthewings]

You're just proving my point for me people.

which point would that be....you have so many, I can't keep up the pace.:naughty:

[waitinginthewings]

Now Swanny..have you started working for the GFL... :lmao: Out to distract us all with that darn Wabbit :tongue2:

yea....bad Wabbit:lmao:

[TruthWalker]

What is happening above outlines the "root" of the problem on this forum.

These particular members (among others) are responsible for derailing many threads on this forum.

It needs to stop.

[Swanny]

I've just had a mince pie and a mug of coffee for my breakfast what did you have???

[TruthWalker]

This forum is no ones personal property. It belongs to many hundreds of people. It is not up to one person to come in and make their truth the truth for the others. This is simply not the way. It is not the way that Jesus taught, it is very disruptive to a community.

Community = Coming into Unity.

People on this forum come from completely and totally different backgrounds. There's no right or wrong here, there are a multitude of viewpoints and each member has a piece of the puzzle of truth. It is love that will take every member higher, not forcing our belief system on them.

Respect it the first key to being a member of any community including this one. Respect for differences.

Many threads may be started by a poster who wants to discuss one particular viewpoint, however, because this is a community, not owned by one person, the thread takes on a life of it's own. The subject will almost always expand from the original post. That is how truth comes out, that is how we learn.

The original poster does not own their thread any more than they own any of the members that are posting in it.

If we don't like what is being said in a thread, it is our choice to ignore it. There is absolutely no reason to tell people what they should and should not be posting.

There is also no reason to be negative with people. People are not here to fight, they are here to learn.

The reality is that we live in a very important time for humanity and this little community and many of it's members have great opportunities to grow in the Light and have their talents multiplied at the right time, to truly be leaders to help humanity move through the great tests it is facing ahead of us.

Love is the only way.

There is another reality, trying to disrupt the flow of a community like this, seeking to destroy it, even inadvertantly, represents a very great misuse of energy, whether or not we understand the concept of Karma, it should be clear that we indeed do reap as we sew.

Sew the wind (disruption, control, trying to control others free will), and we will reap the whirlwind.

Each of us has an opportunity here Now to help this world and to Be Love. To follow the words of Jesus rather than the words of the false churches that have hijacked his message using fear rather than love.

This is the opportunity for all of us. Why not choose the side of Light rather than the side of wanting to control others thoughts, posts and actions?

Let them Be, and you Be, and we'll all Be.

What do you say? Why not give it a try?

While much of what you said is all well and good. It demonstrates to me that you do not understand what the problem is. You haven't touched on any root cause. It's all well and good to lecture me and give me advice, but lecturing "me" isn't going to cause people on the forum to start being more serious and sincere (as I am).

[waitinginthewings]

What is happening above outlines the "root" of the problem on this forum.

These particular members (among others) are responsible for derailing many threads on this forum.

It needs to stop.

warriorservant/truthwalker: you need to lighten up & have some fun, while your on the payroll. You take your job too serious:lol3:

[TruthWalker]

warriorservant/truthwalker: you need to lighten up & have some fun, while your on the payroll. You take your job too serious:lol3:

It has been said many times that I am on a "payroll".

I am not on a payroll.

[Marian-Librarian]

Hi Truthwalker....

You've posted an amazing amount today...41 posts...have I missed any?

I'd like to see some serious, good, positive discusssions too...what would you like to talk about?

I am sure there are people here that might like that, too.

`Marian

[THE eXchanger]

have you ever heard the eXpression

YOU ARE, your own worst enemey ???

iT iS MiRROR TiME :lmao:

[Boober]

You cant stop people from derailing threads, the only way is to ignore them or ban them, and like you said these things will not slove the problem. So you guys should just talk out your issues. What are the issues here? People are not showing eachother respect? How did this start?

[TruthWalker]

You cant stop people from derailing threads, the only way is to ignore them or ban them, and like you said these things will not slove the problem. So you guys should just talk out your issues. What are the issues here? People are not showing eachother respect? How did this start?

Actually, I can stop them.

I am in the process of that now.

[14 Chakras]

Let me prophecies what is coming for you M1* based on my intuition I will give a prophecy.

The universe is a mirror. It reflects back to you what you are sending out.

It is very clear that you refuse to take responsibility for the way people react to you. You refuse to look in the mirror. You refuse to see that you have a beam in your eye you just want to take the sliver out of everyone else's and you are very blind attempting to do so as that beam in your eye is keeping you blind.

The reality is, you will be faced with more rejection, tough times, this is my prophecy, you have a tough road ahead ~ school of hard knocks we are in.

It is time for you to come up higher, and the universe / God is trying to help you see the beam in your eye, helping you to finally, take responsibility for your own experience.

Stop blaming others and learn that when you love them they will love you back.

In addition, after you fall on your face (which it appears you really want to do), you will eventually see that you yourself are VERY worthy of God's love, and that God does indeed have infinite love for you and simply is waiting for you to be open to accepting it.

Let the love flow through you, it is here Now, that is the answer.

Prophecy can always be overcome through Love.

[TruthWalker]

Hi Truthwalker....

You've posted an amazing amount today...41 posts...have I missed any?

I'd like to see some serious, good, positive discusssions too...what would you like to talk about?

I am sure there are people here that might like that, too.

`Marian

I would like to see that too (serious, good, positive, discussion)..

However, this forum is not the best place for that at this present time.

[THE eXchanger]

It has been said many times that I am on a "payroll". I am not on a payroll.

Waiting in The Wings,
me thinks,
we both are tapping into the same source !!!

those who utilise - it has been said many times,
aren't they the liars ???

the only way, i get paid for this
is in 'golden credits'
however, pretty soon,
they are likely going to be worth a lot more
than your 2 cents

time for a beauty sleep

love/susan
the eXchanger

[BROOK]

Actually, I can stop them.

I am in the process of that now.

That almost sounds like a threat....is it? How are you going to stop people from having an opinion?

[TruthWalker]

Let me prophecies what is coming for you M1* based on my intuition I will give a prophecy.

The universe is a mirror. It reflects back to you what you are sending out.

It is very clear that you refuse to take responsibility for the way people react to you. You refuse to look in the mirror. You refuse to see that you have a beam in your eye you just want to take the sliver out of everyone else's and you are very blind attempting to do so as that beam in your eye is keeping you blind.

The reality is, you will be faced with more rejection, tough times, this is my prophecy, you have a tough road ahead ~ school of hard knocks we are in.

It is time for you to come up higher, and the universe / God is trying to help you see the beam in your eye, helping you to finally, take responsibility for your own experience.

Stop blaming others and learn that when you love them they will love you back.

In addition, after you fall on your face (which it appears you really want to do), you will eventually see that you yourself are VERY worthy of God's love, and that God does indeed have infinite love for you and simply is waiting for you to be open to accepting it.

Let the love flow through you, it is here Now, that is the answer.

Prophecy can always be overcome through Love.

That's all well and good. However, this is not what I need.

I need people to start treating this forum seriously, instead of as a circus.

It is not hard to cause a forum to be serious. It just needs to be "asserted" by those that run it. Soon enough, people get the idea.

This forum CAN be improved to the point where people behave themselves and unless one or more people demand it, it will never happen.

Bill should be on the phone thanking me.

[THE eXchanger]

Actually, I can stop them.

I am in the process of that now.

is that what the little nats are in the air

the budget, must be down !!! :mfr_lol:

keeps my costume budget down,
since, i don't have to climb into,
a super-woman costume,
to get them !!!:lmao:

love/susan
the eXchanger

[TruthWalker]

That almost sounds like a threat....is it? How are you going to stop people from having an opinion?

baited question.

Purposefully (and conveniently) misunderstood my point in an attempt to perpetuate drama.

I never stated anywhere that I want to prevent people from having an opinion.

Nice try..

But it would be nice if you actually stop posting useless smart remarks all over the forum. You're one of the major problems.

[TruthWalker]

is that what the little nats are in the air

the budget, must be down !!! :mfr_lol:

keeps my costume budget down,
since, i don't have to climb into,
a super-woman costume,
to get them !!!:lmao:

love/susan
the eXchanger

This is not a serious or sincere post.

It was created to cause others to disregard the problems that have been outlined and to perpetuate the mockery (which is a spirit slowly dying)..

[waitinginthewings]

That's all well and good. However, this is not what I need.

I need people to start treating this forum seriously, instead of as a circus.

It is not hard to cause a forum to be serious. It just needs to be "asserted" by those that ruin it. Soon enough, people get the idea.

This forum CAN be improved to the point where people behave themselves and unless one or more people demand it, it will never happen.

Bill should be on the phone thanking me.

You hit the nail on the head....maybe I'll send him a quick note and tell him to hop over here and thank you.....yes that would be very very good:lmao:

[Phr0z3n]

I need people to start treating this forum seriously, instead of as a circus.

Then why doesn't a mod close this thread as all talking points about the OP have died off, so that everyone responding to this thread including truthwalker can actively participate and further the other threads(with more pressing matters) along instead of bickering and arguing about nothing?

[THE eXchanger]

Bill should be on the phone thanking me.

someone should be sending you a 'bill'
for wasting his band_space

[14 Chakras]

The universe is a mirror. Remember the prophecy, it is not about this forum, it is about Life.

When you decide to see the beam in your eye, and stop trying to take the sliver out of others, and this is in your life, not just on this forum, then finally you can overcome the hardship.

The school of hard knocks has lessons in store, they are simply designed to help push you to spiritual freedom which you will only achieve when you finally decide to take responsibility for your energy, see clearly you are acting as a perpetrator are not a victim, and surrender your desire to be right.

You have a mission to fulfill, and you will fail it if you do not learn these lessons, so the universe will now help you learn.

Until then. Let it Be.

[TruthWalker]

[/COLOR]You hit the nail on the head....maybe I'll send him a quick note and tell him to hop over here and thank you.....yes that would be very very good:lmao:

Well that would be a nice change.

It would beat being asked to leave.

[BROOK]

baited question.

Purposefully (and conveniently) misunderstood my point in an attempt to perpetuate drama.

I never stated anywhere that I want to prevent people from having an opinion.

Nice try..

But it would be nice if you actually stop posting useless smart remarks all over the forum. You're one of the major problems.

I am? Funny thing...I always thought everyone loved me...I'm going to cry now...see what you did :tears:

[TruthWalker]

The universe is a mirror. Remember the prophecy, it is not about this forum, it is about Life.

When you decide to see the beam in your eye, and stop trying to take the sliver out of others, and this is in your life, not just on this forum, then finally you can overcome the hardship.

The school of hard knocks has lessons in store, they are simply designed to help push you to spiritual freedom which you will only achieve when you finally decide to take responsibility for your energy, see clearly you are a perpetrator not a victim, and surrender your desire to be right.

You have a mission to fulfill, and you will fail it if you do not learn these lessons, so the universe will now help you learn.

Until then. Let it Be.

There's nothing hard, deep, mystifying or philosophical about causing a forum to be more sincere and genuine.

It's not a big soul wrenching problem. It just has to be fixed and it can be fixed.

You act as if what I am asking requires us to search the depths of the universe for an answer.

But the answer is right in front of us and it's simple.

Be serious. Be respectful. Stay on topic - or go join a clown forum.

Until people are "expected" to behave this way, they will refuse.

That spirit cripples this forum.

It's all rather simple.

[TruthWalker]

I am? Funny thing...I always thought everyone loved me...I'm going to cry now...see what you did :tears:

Just be more serious and stop treating other peoples threads like your own personal joke and everything will be fine.

[Marian-Librarian]

TW:

"Be the change you wish to see"

Mahatma Ghandi

If the forum is not what you wish it to be...then make it better....

[TruthWalker]

TW:

"Be the change you wish to see"

Mahatma Ghandi

If the forum is not what you wish it to be...then make it better....

That's what I am doing.

[ellie]

Well that would be a nice change.

It would beat being asked to leave.

This guy has more ISP addresses than the bloody FBI and the CIA put together. Listen Mike I know you have a hard time putting that reptilian tail inside your pants when you get up and go down the street and try to look as human as possible.

Just go away. I will have to call the CIA tonight and tell them your just a pain.

Naaah, even better start TAKING YOUR MEDS. Lithium would be a good start. :lol3: Mmmh, can reps take lithium, oh hell I dont care just go and take a few bottles at once. :tongue2:

You've got nothing better to do with your time I suppose. I mean you get paid for doing this aligator man. :lmfao:

[TruthWalker]

This guy has more ISP addresses than the bloody FBI and the CIA put together. Listen Mike I know you have a hard time putting that reptilian tail inside your pants when you get up and go down the street and try to look as human as possible.

Just go away. I will have to call the CIA tonight and tell them your just a pain.

Naaah, even better start TAKING YOUR MEDS. Lithium would be a good start. :lol3: Mmmh, can reps take lithium, oh hell I dont care just go and take a few bottles at once. :tongue2:

You've got nothing better to do with your time I suppose. I mean you get paid for doing this aligator man. :lmfao:

I am not an alligator.

I am not on medication.

I am a Truth Walker.

[waitinginthewings]

I am? Funny thing...I always thought everyone loved me...I'm going to cry now...see what you did :tears:

oh there, there Brook...don't cry......I'm sure he didn't mean to hurt your feelings.:tears:

[Boober]

Listen Mike I know you have a hard time putting that reptilian tail inside your pants when you get up and go down the street and try to look as human as possible.
You've got nothing better to do with your time I suppose. I mean you get paid for doing this aligator man. :lmfao:

Reptilian tail? He is a reptile or is that code word for a lucy?

[TruthWalker]

oh there, there Brook...don't cry......I'm sure he didn't mean to hurt your feelings.:tears:

I am not here to hurt anyone's feelings.

[Karen]

Why don't you all just walk away and stop this your selves. Why does a moderator have to come in here and close it?

Can you control yourselves?

[TruthWalker]

Why don't you all just walk away and stop this your selves. Why does a moderator have to come in here and close it?

Can you control yourselves?

Good question.

But please don't close it.

[THE eXchanger]

This is not a serious or sincere post.

It was created to cause others to disregard the problems that have been outlined and to perpetuate the mockery (which is a spirit slowly dying)..

NOT very often, do i ever, have anything like this,
to say to anyone !!!
(as, a matter of fact, i normally do NOT even bother,
to waste any energy)
however - since, your energetic eXpression
is making the house of Bill & Kerrie, quite dirty --
and, i am positive, your 'hacking' shift,
will likely be up at 7am
hopefully, your handlers, will remove you-
and, replace you, with something a little more entertaining !!!
or, perhaps, choose to give it up, altogether
- let's face it,
people are waking up, and, getting wise,
a lot quicker than you probably imagined !!!

The 80/20 rule has shifted
the ball went through 81/19 awhile ago,
and, it changed a lot of earth dynamics...
when it hits, 82/18, it will be a check-mate
then, 83/17, 84/16, 85/15, 86/14, 87/13,
and, so on, until there are NONE of you left...
100 to none, now that's a day, i look forward too

love/susan
the eXchanger

[Initiate]

What is it we are being distracted from? Wasting all this energy on it. Something big must be about to happen. Just ignore it. so far it has said very little about it's stories and 99.9% (rough uncalculated estimate) are about how horrible the forum and it's standing members have treated it. If this isn't a diversionary tactic then I can't believe someone can be as insecure and unstable as it.

[BROOK]

NOT very often, do i ever, have anything like this,
to say to anyone !!!
(as, a matter of fact, i normally do NOT even bother,
to waste any energy)
however - since, your energetic eXpression
is making the house of Bill & Kerrie, quite dirty --
and, i am positive, your 'hacking' shift,
will likely be up at 7am
hopefully, your handlers, will remove you-
and, replace you, with something a little more entertaining !!!
or, perhaps, choose to give it up, altogether
- let's face it,
people are waking up, and, getting wise,
a lot quicker than you probably imagined !!!

The 80/20 rule has shifted
the ball went through 81/19 awhile ago,
and, it changed a lot of earth dynamics...
when it hits, 82/18, it will be a check-mate
then, 83/17, 84/16, 85/15, 86/14, 87/13,
and, so on, until there are NONE of you left...
100 to none, now that's a day, i look forward too

love/susan
the eXchanger
I'm so glad you said that..now I can stop crying :tears:

[Marian-Librarian]

You've had alot of postings today...

Why don't you take a break for the night/morning?
Have some coffee.....

[Boober]

I take it not a lot of people like this truthwalker. Why? What did TW do? hurt some feelings?

[TruthWalker]

NOT very often, do i ever, have anything like this,
to say to anyone !!!
(as, a matter of fact, i normally do NOT even bother,
to waste any energy)
however - since, your energetic eXpression
is making the house of Bill & Kerrie, quite dirty --
and, i am positive, your 'hacking' shift,
will likely be up at 7am
hopefully, your handlers, will remove you-
and, replace you, with something a little more entertaining !!!
or, perhaps, choose to give it up, altogether
- let's face it,
people are waking up, and, getting wise,
a lot quicker than you probably imagined !!!

The 80/20 rule has shifted
the ball went through 81/19 awhile ago,
and, it changed a lot of earth dynamics...
when it hits, 82/18, it will be a check-mate
then, 83/17, 84/16, 85/15, 86/14, 87/13,
and, so on, until there are NONE of you left...
100 to none, now that's a day, i look forward too

love/susan
the eXchanger

I really must say this. It's not intended to be insulting. I mean this in all seriousness and sincerity.

Everything you have written above is ridiculous.

[TruthWalker]

I take it not a lot of people like this truthwalker. Why? What did TW do? hurt some feelings?

It's not that people don't like me. I know most of what people are saying isn't personal. It's more that they don't want anyone to interrupt their little social club with seriousness. If I try to post serious topics, the social club shows up for a laugh, then I start flapping my arms, then the social club begins to say I am a troll that insults people. The whole problem could be solved if people just treat serious posts seriously.

[BROOK]

OMG...I'm going to start crying again :tears: Exchanger....whaaa:tears:

[TruthWalker]

You've had alot of postings today...

Why don't you take a break for the night/morning?
Have some coffee.....

I type / read fast.

Sorry.

[TruthWalker]

OMG...I'm going to start crying again :tears: Exchanger....whaaa:tears:

Example.

[waitinginthewings]

You've had alot of postings today...

Why don't you take a break for the night/morning?
Have some coffee.....

coffee:nono::nono::nono: maybe a cup of warm milk to soothe him might be better. Maybe he can sleep then.:naughty:

[TruthWalker]

What is it we are being distracted from? Wasting all this energy on it. Something big must be about to happen. Just ignore it. so far it has said very little about it's stories and 99.9% (rough uncalculated estimate) are about how horrible the forum and it's standing members have treated it. If this isn't a diversionary tactic then I can't believe someone can be as insecure and unstable as it.

The forum isn't horrible. I like the forum or I wouldn't be here.

I am trying to cause a small minority to wake up to themselves is that the thousands of other people who are here to be serious can get through threads without having to scan through 5 pages of stupidity to get to the next interesting and serious post.

All in all, it's really a small group of people that are causing this forum to become quarrelsome and it could be fixed "overnight" -- for the prosperity and usefulness of the forum as a whole.

[TruthWalker]

coffee:nono::nono::nono: maybe a cup of warm milk to soothe him might be better. Maybe he can sleep then.:naughty:

Example. Making fun of people is not constructive.

[waitinginthewings]

Example. Making fun of people is not constructive.

But I was trying to be helpful....you've had a loooooooooong day working away on this forum. I thought a cup of warm milk might calm your nerves. Just trying to be helpful, thats all.:original:

[ellie]

I am not an alligator.

I am not on medication.

I am a Truth Walker.

No your Michael from AstroVera, a psyop paid by a covert agency to disrupt, upset and be a disinfo agent.

You make me laugh, but I suppose you have to get paid.

Don't you alligators ever sleep. Look I will tell you how to do it, stop dead, that should be easy for you moron, put one front leg up and another back leg up and stay like that for next 100 years. Make like a mummy, wrap yourself up and disappear into your coffin.

Now Brooke and the other new members here, I know who this guy is. He is a well known disinfo agent who tries to bring people down and upset them and derail their threads. Take no notice of the cold skinned reptile. He is probably upset because one of his smurfies have stood him up on their date. :lol3:

Never mind the good guys are here to take care of the little cold blooded creature. Go suck:tongue2: some vampire bats and get rabies and do us all a favour.

Oh gee I forgot you would probably get a thrill as vampire bats is just another meal to you. :lol3:

Dont get upset with this idiot good people of avalon. You will know he has skunked his way into this forum by the month of December when the forum reopened and his posts are all more or less the same. :wink2:

[TruthWalker]

But I was trying to be helpful....you've had a loooooooooong day working away on this forum. I thought a cup of warm milk might calm your nerves. Just trying to be helpful, thats all.:original:

No, you are making jokes at other peoples expense for a laugh.

It's disruptive -- and mean.

It's anything but helpful.

[TruthWalker]

No your Michael from AstroVera, a psyop paid by a covert agency to disrupt, upset and be a disinfo agent.

You make me laugh, but I suppose you have to get paid.

Don't you alligators ever sleep. Look I will tell you how to do it, stop dead, that should be easy for you moron, put one front leg up and another back leg up and stay like that for next 100 years. Make like a mummy, wrap yourself up and disappear into your coffin.

Now Brooke and the other new members here, I know who this guy is. He is a well known disinfo agent who tries to bring people down and upset them and derail their threads. Take no notice of the cold skinned reptile. He is probably upset because one of his smurfies have stood him up on their date. :lol3:

Never mind the good guys are here to take care of the little cold blooded creature. Go suck:tongue2: some vampire bats and get rabies and do us all a favour.

Oh gee I forgot you would probably get a thrill as vampire bats is just another meal to you. :lol3:

Dont get upset with this idiot good people of avalon. You will know he has skunked his way into this forum by the month of December when the forum reopened and his posts are all more or less the same. :wink2:

What can I say to this?

[BROOK]

Well, we are a lighthearted bunch..and I've had many here make fun of me..and I did not take it personally. cause I'm a little goofy anyway. :wink2:

So the point is to come here, have a few laughs, have some debate that is constructive. and get to the truth. What is your truth? And what is so serious that you cannot tell us? The thread is about banning members....but now it's about getting serious, and your truth....so enlighten us. Seriously.

[ellie]

What can I say to this?

Nothin, cause you know its true. You been trained in the art of deceiving people. the ones in the know know this about you.

Now remember stay still, one front foot up, one back foot up and stay like that for the next millenium. Leave these people alone loony. :lol3:

[TruthWalker]

Well, we are a lighthearted bunch..and I've had many here make fun of me..and I did not take it personally. cause I'm a little goofy anyway. :wink2:

So the point is to come here, have a few laughs, have some debate that is constructive. and get to the truth. What is your truth? And what is so serious that you cannot tell us? The thread is about banning members....but now it's about getting serious, and your truth....so enlighten us. Seriously.

This is the fifth time you've asked me to state my truth.

Off topic.

Additionally, there can be no excuse for making fun of people for a laugh.

Especially in a serious topic that is literally "about" problems caused by such behavior.

[BROOK]

You been trained in the art of deceiving people.

Not very well :mfr_lol:

[ellie]

This is the fifth time you've asked me to state my truth.

Off topic.

Additionally, there can be no excuse for making fun of people for a laugh.

Especially in a serious topic that is literally "about" problems caused by such behavior.

Stand still, one front leg up, one back leg up and stay like for eternity, should be easy for you Mike. Go into your vampire bat cave and go nigh nigh, thats if alligators go nigh nigh.:tongue2:

[TruthWalker]

Not very well :mfr_lol:

Unconstructive.

[TruthWalker]

Stand still, one front leg up, one back leg up and stay like for eternity, should be easy for you Mike. Go into your vampire bat cave and go nigh nigh, thats if alligators go nigh nigh.:tongue2:

Off topic. Irrelevant. Unconstructive. Trouble causing.

[BROOK]

This is the fifth time you've asked me to state my truth.

Off topic.

Additionally, there can be no excuse for making fun of people for a laugh.

Especially in a serious topic that is literally "about" problems caused by such behavior.
I ask because you keep stating you are here to share your truth...do you deny that is what you've said here? I will go back and find it for you if you like...

[ellie]

Unconstructive.

Join Date of TruthWalker :lol3: you wouldnt know how to walk straight let alone walk with the truth. Go eat some snakes or something, oops, their your good buddies arent they.

Oh, I am done with you tonight stupid, more skype calls to make about you twerp, cold blooded twerp. Nighty night moron.

[Boober]

What can I say to this?


Hmm, so you are this disinfo guy from this place astrovera?? How much does it pay, i might be in. I can type all day about how billy meier is a joke too.

[TruthWalker]

I ask because you keep stating you are here to share your truth...do you deny that is what you've said here? I will go back and find it for you if you like...

And my answer wont change.

I will share my life experiences and situations when I am able to post on the forums without people derailing topics with accusations, nastiness, stupidity, jokes, mockery and mob mentality.

According to how this thread has gone, I can clearly see that this forum is not yet ready to hear a serious person out.

[TruthWalker]

Hmm, so you are this disinfo guy from this place astrovera?? How much does it pay, i might be in. I can type all day about how billy meier is a joke too.

I am not a disinfo guy.

I am a truth guy.

[TruthWalker]

Join Date of TruthWalker :lol3: you wouldnt know how to walk straight let alone walk with the truth. Go eat some snakes or something, oops, their your good buddies arent they.

Oh, I am done with you tonight stupid, more skype calls to make about you twerp, cold blooded twerp. Nighty night moron.

Example.

[BROOK]

I am not a disinfo guy.

I am a truth guy.

What kind of guy? There is that word again...TRUTH

[Boober]

I am not a disinfo guy.

I am a truth guy.

Thats exactly what a disinfo guy would say, loll, im stilll in. Billly Meier is a joke he cant even spell alllien.

[TruthWalker]

What kind of guy? There is that word again...TRUTH

Truth is hard to find, because the world is full of disingenuous liars and thrill seekers. Finding truth takes serious diligence and sincerity.

[100thmonkey]

I take it not a lot of people like this truthwalker. Why? What did TW do? hurt some feelings?Truthwalker is really a banned member named Warrior Servant. Look up all his posts if you like. The story is all there. Of course it began when we was known as M1* until he got banned.

And yes this is on topic, all about banned members. They all just happen to be the same one...

[BROOK]

Truth is hard to find, because the world is full of disingenuous liars and thrill seekers. Finding truth takes serious diligence and sincerity.

To find that truth...it should be firsthand....not secondhand.

[TruthWalker]

To find that truth...it should be firsthand....not secondhand.

Why are you posting identical responses in more than one thread?

[Lionhawk]

There have been three members banned as far as I know.
WarriorServant who declared war on the Forum.
GoingToFast became very aggressive towards Bill Ryan in a nasty way.
Arcora who was an older member who just went off the deep end.

I don't want to go chasing quotes down. So please don't insult my little brain by justifying people who have crossed the line like they didn't do a darn thing and they are all innocent. I have seen this before and I can't swallow it. Here comes that darn yellow rain again, when I hear that kind of thing.

What all three have in common is that they made very personal attacks in an extreme sort of way. The math is simple. The policy states it as such. There is a line and how you crossed that line is another thing. The mods are just looking out for the needs of the many verses the needs of the few. Granted we might slap each other now and again, with most of that out of jest.

I'm a new member and I understand the concept of mutual respect.

Having had my own website and forum in the past, I never had to ban anyone as I figured we could always work things out in some kind of adult fashion. I didn't have any rules or banning policies. If you chose to screw up and make it personal in such a distasteful way, and didn't want to rectify that, then you ended up booting yourself out. Because you only dishonored yourself by doing that and stuck out like a real sore thumb. It only happened twice in the 3 years I operated the site. And those people were always welcomed back in as long as they acted responsible for their take on things. But they had to earn their respect to once put themselves in a better standing. We all have our days and we aren't perfect. As long as you learn from the mistakes you make and try to do better, what the hey I say.

It is when you rock the boat posting one thread after another with the same type of animosity that offends people. Using a paint brush to paint everyone the same, blaming everyone when your personal demands are not met. There is something wrong there when someone makes demands, declares war on everyone, or threatens someones life. To say everyone treated these guys like that is a false accusation, lie, for simple terms. Granted there were slaps going around even after the storm had passed.

It makes it very difficult to read about someone's story, when everyone is first being accused with a paint brush and then wanting everyone to then listen. I was raised by a Napoleon type, so again, when you are telling me it's raining and your peeing on my moccasins, I'm going to look at you real funny. Similar to when ex Canadian kick boxer Dad would beat the smithereens out of me, then tells me he loves me after when he was to tired to get another kick in me. I'm not going to feel real good about it. Savvy?

If you have a story, you don't have to drag me through that darn yellow mud first. I also don't need to hear about all the conditions and demands leading up to that story, then declaring war or falsely accusing me if I question some part in it. Communication is a two way street in a forum. Look up what a forum means anywhere on the Internet. Hang on and I'll get for you.............

Wikipedia states,
An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-vBfaqFORUM-0) It originated as the modern equivalent of a traditional bulletin board (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board), and a technological evolution of the dialup bulletin board system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-bbsref-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-Glossary_Of_Technical_Terms-2) From a technological standpoint, forums or boards are web applications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_application) managing user-generated content (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User-generated_content).[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-Glossary_Of_Technical_Terms-2)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-3)
People participating in an Internet forum may cultivate social bonds and interest groups for a topic may form from the discussions.

The keyword there is about "discussing." It take two to have a discussion.

Quite frankly I could care less how many fake identities someone may have. If your story is worth it's salt, it will stand on it's own. You want to add a little drama to that, fine, as I can handle that to. But it would be nice if you treated me like I would like to be treated as I would also treat you the same way. I'm easy. I'm not asking for much. I would then probably be inclined to listen. And just because I call the Bible a book, doesn't mean I am turning the conversation into a religious debate. If you find value in it, fine, and I would be willing to discuss it in a real way on any level you choose as long as that conversation had mutual respect in it. After all I am also still trying to learn or I am opened to that.

And always remember that when you speak to other warriors of the real type, threatening them on any level in person would be suicide. So maybe some have tried that tactic here on a virtual board and got banned. In the real world, your life would be banned. So maybe getting banned was the lesser of two evils and a blessing in disguise. Never forget the laws of attraction work virtually and in the 3D realm we reside in, at the same time. That's what you got to understand and another thing the Bible didn't tell you.

There is always a way to get your message across in a healthy way and it doesn't have to end up in some sink hole dragging everyone in it. It all depends on your agenda and if you can't handle that and you see yourself like some Napoleon type, and don't respect the guidelines, expect the consequences. If anything, MANUP! Take responsibility for your actions.

Enough said and if I said to much, it was because I had to get this off my chest after these recent events. Blessings to all. :thumb_yello:

[TruthWalker]

Truthwalker is really a banned member named Warrior Servant. Look up all his posts if you like. The story is all there. Of course it began when we was known as M1* until he got banned.

And yes this is on topic, all about banned members. They all just happen to be the same one...

I have seen many members banned -- and I was left thinking that the community caused it. Arcora is another member that fell victim to the mob.

[BROOK]

Why are you posting identical responses in more than one thread?

I s there a rule against that? It just so happens, the same thing was posed in both threads.

[waitinginthewings]

I s there a rule against that? It just so happens, the same thing was posed in both threads.

truthwalker. just ignore Brook...she's confused:lightsabre:

[iainl140285]

Do you feel declaring war on a forum and being ASKED to leave by the forum founder cause enough to be banned?

Do you feel DEMANDING a set of new rules in a forum that a member has declared war on and its people cause enough to be banned?

When you are re-banned and come back again, please do so with a low profile. You will find it MUCH easier to drum up constructive dialogue with most members here.

Best of luck

[BROOK]

truthwalker. just ignore Brook...she's confused:lightsabre:

:insane:

[TruthWalker]

Do you feel declaring war on a forum and being ASKED to leave by the forum founder cause enough to be banned?

Do you feel DEMANDING a set of new rules in a forum that a member has declared war on and its people cause enough to be banned?

When you are re-banned and come back again, please do so with a low profile. You will find it MUCH easier to drum up constructive dialogue with most members here.

Best of luck

We are all in a war.

[TruthWalker]

There have been three members banned as far as I know.
WarriorServant who declared war on the Forum.
GoingToFast became very aggressive towards Bill Ryan in a nasty way.
Arcora who was an older member who just went off the deep end.

I don't want to go chasing quotes down. So please don't insult my little brain by justifying people who have crossed the line like they didn't do a darn thing and they are all innocent. I have seen this before and I can't swallow it. Here comes that darn yellow rain again, when I hear that kind of thing.

What all three have in common is that they made very personal attacks in an extreme sort of way. The math is simple. The policy states it as such. There is a line and how you crossed that line is another thing. The mods are just looking out for the needs of the many verses the needs of the few. Granted we might slap each other now and again, with most of that out of jest.

I'm a new member and I understand the concept of mutual respect.

Having had my own website and forum in the past, I never had to ban anyone as I figured we could always work things out in some kind of adult fashion. I didn't have any rules or banning policies. If you chose to screw up and make it personal in such a distasteful way, and didn't want to rectify that, then you ended up booting yourself out. Because you only dishonored yourself by doing that and stuck out like a real sore thumb. It only happened twice in the 3 years I operated the site. And those people were always welcomed back in as long as they acted responsible for their take on things. But they had to earn their respect to once put themselves in a better standing. We all have our days and we aren't perfect. As long as you learn from the mistakes you make and try to do better, what the hey I say.

It is when you rock the boat posting one thread after another with the same type of animosity that offends people. Using a paint brush to paint everyone the same, blaming everyone when your personal demands are not met. There is something wrong there when someone makes demands, declares war on everyone, or threatens someones life. To say everyone treated these guys like that is a false accusation, lie, for simple terms. Granted there were slaps going around even after the storm had passed.

It makes it very difficult to read about someone's story, when everyone is first being accused with a paint brush and then wanting everyone to then listen. I was raised by a Napoleon type, so again, when you are telling me it's raining and your peeing on my moccasins, I'm going to look at you real funny. Similar to when ex Canadian kick boxer Dad would beat the smithereens out of me, then tells me he loves me after when he was to tired to get another kick in me. I'm not going to feel real good about it. Savvy?

If you have a story, you don't have to drag me through that darn yellow mud first. I also don't need to hear about all the conditions and demands leading up to that story, then declaring war or falsely accusing me if I question some part in it. Communication is a two way street in a forum. Look up what a forum means anywhere on the Internet. Hang on and I'll get for you.............

Wikipedia states,
An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-vBfaqFORUM-0) It originated as the modern equivalent of a traditional bulletin board (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board), and a technological evolution of the dialup bulletin board system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-bbsref-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-Glossary_Of_Technical_Terms-2) From a technological standpoint, forums or boards are web applications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_application) managing user-generated content (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User-generated_content).[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-Glossary_Of_Technical_Terms-2)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#cite_note-3)
People participating in an Internet forum may cultivate social bonds and interest groups for a topic may form from the discussions.

The keyword there is about "discussing." It take two to have a discussion.

Quite frankly I could care less how many fake identities someone may have. If your story is worth it's salt, it will stand on it's own. You want to add a little drama to that, fine, as I can handle that to. But it would be nice if you treated me like I would like to be treated as I would also treat you the same way. I'm easy. I'm not asking for much. I would then probably be inclined to listen. And just because I call the Bible a book, doesn't mean I am turning the conversation into a religious debate. If you find value in it, fine, and I would be willing to discuss it in a real way on any level you choose as long as that conversation had mutual respect in it. After all I am also still trying to learn or I am opened to that.

And always remember that when you speak to other warriors of the real type, threatening them on any level in person would be suicide. So maybe some have tried that tactic here on a virtual board and got banned. In the real world, your life would be banned. So maybe getting banned was the lesser of two evils and a blessing in disguise. Never forget the laws of attraction work virtually and in the 3D realm we reside in, at the same time. That's what you got to understand and another thing the Bible didn't tell you.

There is always a way to get your message across in a healthy way and it doesn't have to end up in some sink hole dragging everyone in it. It all depends on your agenda and if you can't handle that and you see yourself like some Napoleon type, and don't respect the guidelines, expect the consequences. If anything, MANUP! Take responsibility for your actions.

Enough said and if I said to much, it was because I had to get this off my chest after these recent events. Blessings to all. :thumb_yello:

Whole response utterly irrelevant, full of inaccuracies and falsehoods.

[Lionhawk]

Thanks for the VALIDATION! :thumb_yello:

[Stargazer1965]

Thanks for the VALIDATION! :thumb_yello:

I was wondering what Psych majors did for money...They jam up good forums with bad garbage......

Hey ...can you type in cyclical rhetorical parodies??...You are so HIRED!!!!

Peace:naughty:

[TruthWalker]

I was wondering what Psych majors did for money...They jam up good forums with bad garbage......

Hey ...can you type in cyclical rhetorical parodies??...You are so HIRED!!!!

Peace:naughty:

Useless insulting post.

Moderation needed.

[Stargazer1965]

Useless insulting post.

Moderation needed.

Umm...how do you know I'm talking about you???

[TruthWalker]

Umm...how do you know I'm talking about you???

Pointless response.

No answer given.

[Stargazer1965]

Pointless response.

No answer given.

Military probably....or at least a military background....

I'm done playing for now...thanx

[TruthWalker]

Military probably....or at least a military background....

I'm done playing for now...thanx

Wrong.

Good.

Bye.

[Northern Boy]

So Michael the owner of Astro Vera banned several members or at least his smurf buddies decided/ alter ego then banned those members often times for simply asking questions . Now we know that some of those members have made there way back over here 2 of them had the courage to use names that some of us were familiar with 371 and of course Michael the aforementioned forum owner used his original name from when he was a member here previously . For that i will give them credit as they did not try to hide behind a screen name those others who have come over it seems lack the true backbone to do so and want to create new names and hide behind them. rest assured they will meet the same fate should they proceed with attempts at disrupting this forum

[TruthWalker]

So Michael the owner of Astro Vera banned several members or at least his smurf buddies decided/ alter ego then banned those members often times for simply asking questions . Now we know that some of those members have made there way back over here 2 of them had the courage to use names that some of us were familiar with 371 and of course Michael the aforementioned forum owner used his original name from when he was a member here previously . For that i will give them credit as they did not try to hide behind a screen name those others who have come over it seems lack the true backbone to do so and want to create new names and hide behind them. rest assured they will meet the same fate should they proceed with attempts at disrupting this forum

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about or how it relates to this thread.

[dagon]

Im a guest here. and if you misbehave at my house, Ill ask you to leave. posting opinions is like posting a@@ holes. huge waste of time bickering. spiting hairs over egos. if you dont come with respect. you will also be asked to leave.

[dagon]

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about or how it relates to this thread.
actually i have looked at all posts and I cant for the life of me se what you really doing here. other than trying to get into a pissing contest.

[burgundia]

:wub2::wub2::wub2:

[TruthWalker]

actually i have looked at all posts and I cant for the life of me se what you really doing here. other than trying to get into a pissing contest.

I am not trying to do that.

I am trying to stop that from happening.

Best way to accomplish it is to wear it out until everyone is sick of it.

Then people wont have much tolerance for it and we can all get back to posting in peace.

[burgundia]

Truthwalker...:wub2:

[Northern Boy]

So I`ll take a stab at boober . After watching the replies to TW posts I`ll bet she is one of 2 people from Astro Vera Diverdown or Shellie .Truthwalker Goes by the name of S-Dorados over there and depending on which hat he is wearing and if he is on his medication Michael .

You give it away trying to justify the posts of the previously banned people . if you have some thing relevant to say then say it if not move on or better yet rent a hall and preach from there .

You can join Michael`s forum oops forgot you are already members there there are several other forums that you can infiltrate and join . Your job is not to come in here and proclaim you have a better more efficient way of running the forum or even dictating what should or shouldn`t be done here if you have something to say the by all means do so . If what you are reading in some threads doesn`t suit your taste`s leave the thread there is no need to stick you comments in on every thread to disrupt it . If it doesn`t suit your taste move on till you find one that does or create your own and work with the people that join it .

The pattern i see is this move to numerous threads injecting comments to illicit a response then leave after getting arise from the members in it eventually creating your own thread like this one to get your audience and then hope to have a meaningful dialogue . Then once you get that audience you can`t seem to understand that your thread can`t stay on topic because your audience isn`t here to pat you on the back but to disrupt your thread and show you the same disrespect you have shown them . Funny what goes around comes around

[Unified Serenity]

Why don't you all just walk away and stop this your selves. Why does a moderator have to come in here and close it?

Can you control yourselves?

Well, hops on a new box, cause it is fun to respond to an idiot. It's great to point out differences, and vent sometimes... and then watch the crowd gafaw when a mod comes in.... ok... stepping back from my instigator mode.....


I think people are just aware of someone with an agenda here that is meant to convert as many people as possible and save their souls.... which of course means then think many of us "enlightened" ones are lost.

I think many "preachers" have a special karmic place in the next dimension to burn off their stuff.

[Dadrious]

The pattern i see is this move to numerous threads injecting comments to illicit a response then leave after getting arise from the members in it eventually creating your own thread like this one to get your audience and then hope to have a meaningful dialogue . Then once you get that audience you can`t seem to understand that your thread can`t stay on topic because your audience isn`t here to pat you on the back but to disrupt your thread and show you the same disrespect you have shown them . Funny what goes around comes around

Well said. :thumb_yello:

[Jnana]

Here's a simple way to improve your life:

1. Click on the name of a user who is making your forum experience less enjoyable.

2. Click on "User Lists"

3. Click on "Add to Ignore List"

[TruthWalker]

Here's a simple way to improve your life:

1. Click on the name of a user who is making your forum experience less enjoyable.

2. Click on "User Lists"

3. Click on "Add to Ignore List"

I would absolutely LOVE it if more people would put me on ignore.

Great advice.

[Jack]

Irrelevant. Trolling. She does it all over the forums. A most unconstructive, trouble causing member.

As a matter of fact, Brook one of the most productive and positive members that has been with this forum for a long time. And certainly a long enough time for everyone to grow to love and trust her.

Again, your thread is degenerating into chaos, and you are one individual who is starting to take up a lot of the moderators time.

We are living in serious times, very serious. Trouble makers and instigators of disharmony on an internet forum shold be the last thing we are to be concerned about right now. Take a step back and analyse why it is that all of this chaos seems to follow you. Make the effort or else your threads will continue to be closed.