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New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 07:14 AM
I recognized the spiral as a black hole forming, since I was a black hole and know how one is...

So this could be a correct interpretation...

"NEW FOOTAGE Norway Spiral Swirl Is A Black Hole! Planet X Nibiru The Destroyer Is Close!"

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LucidJia
12-17-2009, 07:21 AM
Did you say you were a black hole? Can you elaborate?

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 07:25 AM
Did you say you were a black hole? Can you elaborate?

Yeah, I was a black hole. I still have some of it in there, the point of singularity, etc.

I can describe it perfectly, any moment I will be a gamma ray burst or whatever.

The story is on my website in my sig.

New Age Messiah vs. 6/6/6 :original:

371
12-17-2009, 07:58 AM
That was NO BLACK HOLE. I am POSITIVE, for what it's worth. Those vids are faked.



Consider this:

OK, the swirl looks just like a rocket burning out at first- but no rockets will stay in the same spot of that long and produce those effects, right?

Well what if that was a rocket.... that became intelligently controlled by a power from above?

Might that explain why the swirl is PHI?? One of the magic numbers that we see everywhere in nature?

What might that say about who is watching our planet right now? And what might that say about their capabilities?



Just a theory for people to think about.

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 08:10 AM
That was NO BLACK HOLE. I am POSITIVE, for what it's worth. Those vids are faked.

The first thing I said, was, if it's natural, it's a black hole. I said that in ten seconds of watching it, because I've been inside a black hole, and I know exactly what they're like.

It may be any number of things, and the vids may be faked.

BUT, the very first thing I said was, it looks like a black hole.

AND I said, it was divine WRATH, if it was natural. At least a sign of divine wrath.

AND a GODDESS did tell me she was VERY angry.

So, I don't know. But from what I read on the site where I found this...

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message945221/pg1

The spiral was a sign of impending doom in ancient cave art. I can't confirm that.

Machinamentum
12-17-2009, 10:44 AM
This is the freaky video of the matter.

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GaiaLove
12-17-2009, 01:41 PM
So where's the "new footage"?
This was man made as were other spirals that have appeared.
The one seen from Tromso, Norway (above) was generated by the HAARP antenna farm at the EISCAT Ramfjordmoen facility 10km away.
I suggest one reads up on their work before buying into the blackhole/ET theories.

Specifically the Three-Dimensional Imaging Radar for Atmospheric and Geospace Research

http://www.enterprisemission.com/Norway-torsion-map.jpg

http://www.enterprisemission.com/EISCAT_03.jpg
http://www.eiscat3d.se/

Machinamentum
12-17-2009, 01:48 PM
Honestly the HAARP theory is just as outlandish. HAARP antennas point up, I don't know how that would effect anything over Norway. My theory with HAARP is that they charge satellites that hover above to effect different parts of earth.

tone3jaguar
12-17-2009, 02:37 PM
Honestly the HAARP theory is just as outlandish. HAARP antennas point up, I don't know how that would effect anything over Norway. My theory with HAARP is that they charge satellites that hover above to effect different parts of earth.

Right, but if they had some scalar beam satellites that had massive power handling capabilities and used harp to charge them then they could create this type of light show with them.

The only problem I have with the Haarp explanation is that it lacks motive on the part of the PTB. If they did do it then why would they? They always have some strategic self serving reason for everything they do.

trainedobserver
12-17-2009, 02:41 PM
The first thing I said, was, if it's natural, it's a black hole.

The spiral was a sign of impending doom in ancient cave art. I can't confirm that.

It was not a black hole. This fear-mongering new-age doomsday nonsense has really got to stop. It is irresponsible. Do you people not realize the number of ignorant or impaired people who see this baloney and are scared out of their wits?

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 05:56 PM
It was not a black hole. This fear-mongering new-age doomsday nonsense has really got to stop. It is irresponsible. Do you people not realize the number of ignorant or impaired people who see this baloney and are scared out of their wits?

A). I was very angry, so I declared a mission to find something NEW. My motto was, "Reality is God, when you pretend or lie you cease to exist you die."

B). I did find something new, and it's a messianic story against a backdrop of NEW AGE synchronistic miracles.

C). After five years in a black hole, a Goddess spoke to me and said She is very angry and cooking.

D). Humanity is being led by the nose by awful sick people, for the most part, all congregating in Copenhagen.

E). The Goddess spoke to me, made me her Valentine, so I think She pretty much agrees with me, about religion and the people in Copenhagen.

F). A sign appears in the sky, that I immediately recognize as similar to a black hole, and then some other people start to maybe see it as that...

G). It's in Copenhagen. Where all these creeps and liars are trying to make a new age religion.

So maybe that's what it is. And maybe it ties into Nibiru and all that stuff.

It's pretty blind to think that IF there is a God (I know for a fact there is a Goddess) that God would not be rip roaring ready to do some powerful readjustments.

Evil is run amok on earth, man is about to self destruct, etc.

eleni
12-17-2009, 06:05 PM
Who is this Goddess who spoke to you? And why was she cooking? What was she cooking?

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 06:05 PM
As a side note....

Blizzard Dumps Snow on Copenhagen as Leaders Battle Warming

Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- World leaders flying into Copenhagen today to discuss a solution to global warming will first face freezing weather as a blizzard dumped 10 centimeters (4 inches) of snow on the Danish capital overnight.
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Denmark has a maritime climate and milder winters than its Scandinavian neighbors. It hasn’t had a white Christmas for 14 years, under the DMI’s definition, and only had seven last century.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601130&sid=a5wStc0K6jhY

Lionhawk
12-17-2009, 06:10 PM
GODLIKE PRODUCTIONS is not where I would go if I was seeking any credible information. You're better off making up something. That place is a black hole.:lmao: I consider that place the galactic center of disinformation. Talk about "agent" school.

Good question Eleni. :thumb_yello:

Not that rocket argument again.:wall::wall::wall::wall: :thumbdown:

Wave propagation is not as familiar as rockets, I'll give you that. Most people have never heard of the term. But they have heard of rockets and that is the only way they can come close to even relating to the phenomenon over Norway. :mad3:

:mfr_lol:

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 06:11 PM
Who is this Goddess who spoke to you? And why was she cooking? What was she cooking?

She didn't say Her name, but She is 99.9% Ma'at, since Her speaking to me came soon after a conversation I had about Ma'at.

She is cooking, I suppose, due to a horrendous atrocity I personally suffered...

But also the things that I was angry about when I went on mission...

Religion and politics. :original:

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 06:12 PM
GODLIKE PRODUCTIONS is not where I would go if I was seeking any credible information. You're better off making up something. That place is a black hole.
:lmao:

All they did was post the vid, but I agree that godlike productions is creepy weird, but can be very fun and informative. :original:

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 08:29 PM
It's probably been posted on other threads, but Hoagland thinks it is a man made black hole, apparently...

http://www.enterprisemission.com/Norway-Message.htm

Thunderbird
12-17-2009, 08:43 PM
H A A R P.....
Its a hologram.
Its a computer generated graphic projected into the sky onto the molecules which were agitated enough to coalesce enough to project a faint image onto them.....ENOUGH.

lol.

My buddies could make a better graphic.

rockets do not spiral perfectly out of control.
they also do not propagate waves.

it is not a blackhole.

Its a cryin shame

Its a cryin shame that people of rudimentary intelligence would be employed by any intelligence service to sit in front of a computer sowing disinfo.

couldnt they get anybody brighter?

oh wait...of course they couldnt because we are all right here...DOING THE RIGHT THING. LIVING A GOOD WAY. BEING SMARTER AND SEXIER. AND GETTING LAID WAAAAAAAY MORE OFTEN.

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Thunderbird

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 08:53 PM
H A A R P.....
Its a hologram.
Its a computer generated graphic projected into the sky onto the molecules which were agitated enough to coalesce enough to project a faint image onto them.....ENOUGH.

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Thunderbird

Why?

Thunderbird
12-17-2009, 09:02 PM
I like: demonstration to certain peeps in the area of the eastern blocs capabilities as a force to be reckoned with as they continually refuse to "tow the line" of the poorly endowed flaccid elite running their dimwitted global game of dominance.

I also am fond of the flavor: its a test to gauge legitimate (meaning not disinfo) response of the subjects of the world to the possible and hitherto unproven project bluebeam which itself could be a grand ploy.

Fun huh?

would you like a waffle cone or sugar cone?

GaiaLove
12-17-2009, 09:05 PM
Why?

Project Blue Beam

Why?

It involves two things. A technologically simulated “second coming” and the reemergence of new “MONTAUK” type projects that have the ability to take up a whole bunch of people as in a “rapture” type of situation and whisk the whole bunch into never-never land. Ironically, portions of the holographic projections have the potential for changing the planet into oneness with God. Unfortunately, this operates on the premise that Man shall somehow become God in human form and control other Men and dictate all actions and thoughts.
The calculated resistance to the new religion, the New World Order and the new “Messiah” will entail human loss on a massive scale in the ensuing “holy wars”.

The “BLUE BEAM PROJECT” will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old; as major an event as that which took place 2000 years ago. In principle, it will make use of the sky as a holographic projection screen for space-based laser-generating satellites (star wars). These projectors will project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet, in every language by region. It deals with the religious aspect of the NEW WORLD ORDER.

The “system” has already been tested. Holographic projections of the “CHRIST IMAGE” have already been seen in some remote desert areas. These have only been reported in tabloid papers, so they are instantly rendered moot. They can also project images of alien craft, aliens, angels, black holes – you name it. Computers will coordinate the satellites and software will run the show-and-tell.

-More (http://2012info.ca/articles/?p=288)-

371
12-17-2009, 09:09 PM
I like: demonstration to certain peeps in the area of the eastern blocs capabilities as a force to be reckoned with as they continually refuse to "tow the line" of the poorly endowed flaccid elite running their dimwitted global game of dominance.

In another thread:
picture their sorry butts sitting in a room full of other poorly endowed plebeians:

What is it with you and penis references today?

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 09:14 PM
I have read about this stuff, GaiaLove, with making a new messiah and using projection into the sky to deceive people. And Montauk is also familiar to me.

They probably didn't count on a REAL New Age Messiah, though.

Or a real Goddess. :original:

Thunderbird
12-17-2009, 09:26 PM
Listen up Airman. I enjoy being well endowed.

:mfr_omg:
:mfr_lol:

There's an old Cherokee saying...."the hit dog barks the loudest."
:lmao:

"The characters in this film are fictitious and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental."

waitinginthewings
12-17-2009, 09:28 PM
www.rense.com

Last night on Rense, his first guest (sorry forget name) spoke about the spiral, & said it most definitely was a Russian rocket.

Rense played an audio lecture done by D. Wilcock saying it probably was HAARP.....Rense did not say it was Wilcock on the audio, but blasted him for given false info.....

I dont have a membership at Rense, but anyone can listen to the nightly show for free, and when they go into the archives, you have to be a member to access them. Its definitely worth listening to the first half hour if you can.

trainedobserver
12-17-2009, 09:35 PM
www.rense.com

Last night on Rense, his first guest (sorry forget name) spoke about the spiral, & said it most definitely was a Russian rocket.

Rense played an audio lecture done by D. Wilcock saying it probably was HAARP.....Rense did not say it was Wilcock on the audio, but blasted him for given false info.....

I dont have a membership at Rense, but anyone can listen to the nightly show for free, and when they go into the archives, you have to be a member to access them. Its definitely worth listening to the first half hour if you can.

Good for Rense then!

Callidon
12-17-2009, 09:47 PM
New Age Messiah, this is to you, personally.

I bite my tongue, Iwrite massive posts then close the webpage so it never goes live. I hold back and use caution where caution is due, and when I do post I make sure it is as objective and constructive as possible, even when I disagree with what the thread is about.

But this time, you sir, have made me break my personal oath to never post in anger.

What kind of deranged, insidious, pesimistic and horrifically un-educated moron are you? Do you seriously want to lead us to believe that you spent five years in a black hole where you were spoken to by a godess, that made you her "valentine" and supported you in that your religious beliefs, alone in all the world, were infact 100% correct?

You want us to believe that we are about to be devoured by a black hole? Do you even realise the so very many things that are wrong with that hypothesis?

You have made me so damn angry.

You are why our community is made fun of, you are why people look at unconventional theorists with disdain, i'm almost at the point of leaving the forum in an effort to distance my self from your idiocy. How can you possibly believe that people will believe you?

I could make up a load of **** like you have, make a website about it, put it in my sig and then tell people i'm right, its easy, its doesnt make me right, it dosen't make me credible, and thats why I don't do it, but you don't seem to have that intellectual distinction between fact and pure unalloyed falsity.

Gather up your scare mongering lies, and take them somewhere else, your a scar on the surface of this community.

Avalon was/is about the propagation of truth and you and those like you that post this stuff make the site a melting pot of half truth, fiction, lies, libel and hate. Seriously, get a grip on reality, stop this infantile one upmanship on who has spoken to the highest power, you can't all be right, common sense would say there is only one truth, so that means that IF one person on this site is right, then the rest are lying. I know which you are and I hope that no-one is suckered in by you.

When will the moderators get involved and stop this kind of thing getting posted. I'm not about censorship, i'm not about stopping people from believing what they want, or indeed from people shring their experiences, but surel yi can't be the only one that feels that this kind of thing is taking over the forums and is actualyl getting in the way of the truth and detracting from the important issues.

good day.

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 09:50 PM
www.rense.com

Last night on Rense, his first guest (sorry forget name) spoke about the spiral, & said it most definitely was a Russian rocket.

It most definitely was and most definitely was not. :naughty:

There is sufficient evidence for me, that it was a Russian rocket, as far as the notifications ahead of time and the actual appearance.

The instant denial is knee jerk expected, and then the admission would be necessary to save face.

So the case for a rocket is sound, from that perspective.

There are many though that say the spiral was too perfect...

Did the guest address the scientific objections to it being a rocket???

waitinginthewings
12-17-2009, 09:53 PM
I personally do not believe in the rocket theory. My belief is HAARP or some other new toy they were/are experimenting with.

as far as I can remember, the guest on Rense did not address the fact that the Russians first denied the testing of a rocket, & then later on in the day admitting to it. This so typical of a cover story, & undoubtly were given orders to change their mind about testing that rocket. Who gave the order is even more interesting & why was it used as a cover story. Who was hiding something.

To be honest the guest gave me the feeling that he was part of the disinfo story.

Reader
12-17-2009, 09:56 PM
Awesome post Callidon! Wish I had more time to post my thoughts but I couldn't have done a better job.

It seems as soon as this became a free site again, the bull**** has arrived

New Age Messiah........take your blasphemous **** somewhere else!

waitinginthewings
12-17-2009, 09:59 PM
Awesome post Callidon! Wish I had more time to post my thoughts but I couldn't have done a better job.

It seems as soon as this became a free site again, the bull**** has arrived

New Age Messiah........take your blasphemous **** somewhere else!

Indeed we seem to have "swarms" of unusual posters since the doors were thrown open......a bit like a feeding frenzy:lol3:

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 09:59 PM
New Age Messiah, this is to you, personally.

What kind of deranged, insidious, pesimistic and horrifically un-educated moron are you? Do you seriously want to lead us to believe that you spent five years in a black hole where you were spoken to by a godess, that made you her "valentine" and supported you in that your religious beliefs, alone in all the world, were infact 100% correct?

Reality is God, yeah, many people have believed that for a long time. A.H. Almaas, "The Inner Journey Home" is the book that I have my life, thanks to. It's the truth, Reality is God.

You want us to believe that we are about to be devoured by a black hole? Do you even realise the so very many things that are wrong with that hypothesis?

There is a black hole in my soul, my soul is a black hole. The medical devices would see it, if they attached them to me. And it was six and a half years, so far.

You have made me so damn angry.

You are why our community is made fun of, you are why people look at unconventional theorists with disdain, i'm almost at the point of leaving the forum in an effort to distance my self from your idiocy. How can you possibly believe that people will believe you?

There are irrefutable evidenciary things in court, on video, etc. It's completely proven and totally miraculous.

http://www.isc.idaho.gov/opinions/Johnson%20v.%20McPhee.pdf

There's the Supreme Court botched ruling, but at least they remanded a small portion, the local judge that was partners with one of the attorneys against me, voluntarily disqualified himself after two months sitting on the remand, now it's been another three months and it seems no one wants to touch it.

:original:

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 10:02 PM
New Age Messiah........take your blasphemous **** somewhere else!

It's very important that everyone understands, if they don't believe in Jesus they will burn in hell forever.

Trillions of dollars will have been spent for nothing and many many careers of professional Christians will be in jeopardy if there is a New Age Messiah. :naughty:

Thunderbird
12-17-2009, 10:47 PM
Rense is owned.
Troll King.

In fact, the amount of disinfo and the vehemence with which it is being propagated leads an astute observer to infer that it was possibly a demonstration by the eastern bloc that WASNT cordoned by the flaccid poorly endowed western elite structure TRYING to rule the world.

Think of it as a sort of a "Vaccine" for the people of the world so that they dont fall for some ridiculous messiah project or false alien invasion, AND a demonstration to the western Nazi-ish structure that the folks in the east got the same toys and are saying..."you better rethink your poorly planned retarded ill thought out majorly STUPID plans.....noobs."

Now western power structure is trying OH SO DESPERATELY AND OBVIOUSLY to do damage control. So much so they are outing themselves all over the place and over exteding themselves in their desperation operation.

i told you these guys are stupid, undersexed, and poorly endowed.

.....I win :original:

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Thunderbird

Callidon
12-17-2009, 10:48 PM
Reality is God, yeah, many people have believed that for a long time. A.H. Almaas, "The Inner Journey Home" is the book that I have my life, thanks to. It's the truth, Reality is God.



There is a black hole in my soul, my soul is a black hole. The medical devices would see it, if they attached them to me. And it was six and a half years, so far.



There are irrefutable evidenciary things in court, on video, etc. It's completely proven and totally miraculous.

http://www.isc.idaho.gov/opinions/Johnson%20v.%20McPhee.pdf

There's the Supreme Court botched ruling, but at least they remanded a small portion, the local judge that was partners with one of the attorneys against me, voluntarily disqualified himself after two months sitting on the remand, now it's been another three months and it seems no one wants to touch it.

:original:

/yawn

Keep trolling guy, its entertaining.

Your saying so much but do you realise you don't actually have anything to say?

Last time i checked, the "soul" was not a quantifiable, recordable thing, therefore no, medical devices would not see it.

As for your court case, what the frig has that got to do with anything? Its about a minor dispute with another person, it does not pertain to anything relevant, once again, detracting from the point.

And don't ever think to sit there on your swivle chair telling people they'll burn in hell for not believeing in Jesus. People like you make me sick, who the hell gave you the right to judge others? Did jesus, in ANY of his teachings say that if you didnt believe in him you'd burn in hell? Infact if Jesus was here right now i bet he'd be sickened by those that lie and say they do it in is name.

A clue, I read the bible, he never said that.

I was never a paid member, so i've not been able to post for a long time, we've had to suffer on in silence while the odd bit got trhoguh, but now its free don't abuse the system to spout your rhetoric.

I don't want to be seen for being an arguementative nay-sayer, all i want is for this site to be used for its intended purpose. If that means i have to get on my soap box everynow and then, and make a controversial post that makes me come across as a bit of a twat, then so be it. I don't see many others willing to put their own character on the line, usually the ones that do get butchered into a corner by false rhetoric and get discredited as posters for all time.

I stand for truth, justice, and freedom, and i will not be cowed by your words, because i know they are empty.

:smoke:

Reader, waitinginthewings, its such a refreshig thing to finally see i'm not the only one :thumb_yello:

371
12-17-2009, 10:51 PM
i told you these guys are stupid, undersexed, and poorly endowed.

yes, THREE TIMES TODAY.

I like: demonstration to certain peeps in the area of the eastern blocs capabilities as a force to be reckoned with as they continually refuse to "tow the line" of the poorly endowed flaccid elite running their dimwitted global game of dominance.

In another thread:
picture their sorry butts sitting in a room full of other poorly endowed plebeians:

Humble Janitor
12-17-2009, 10:53 PM
www.rense.com

Last night on Rense, his first guest (sorry forget name) spoke about the spiral, & said it most definitely was a Russian rocket.

Rense played an audio lecture done by D. Wilcock saying it probably was HAARP.....Rense did not say it was Wilcock on the audio, but blasted him for given false info.....

I dont have a membership at Rense, but anyone can listen to the nightly show for free, and when they go into the archives, you have to be a member to access them. Its definitely worth listening to the first half hour if you can.

Has Rense ever had credibility?

I don't see much that puts him above Wilcock or anyone else.

Thunderbird
12-17-2009, 10:55 PM
truth bugs ya airman?

or the hurtful reminders?
:naughty:

Humble Janitor
12-17-2009, 10:56 PM
It's very important that everyone understands, if they don't believe in Jesus they will burn in hell forever.

Trillions of dollars will have been spent for nothing and many many careers of professional Christians will be in jeopardy if there is a New Age Messiah. :naughty:

Does "new age" involve jaded white people that try to co-opt the traditions of indigneous people for profit? Do these "new age" people go on spirit quests and sit in sweat lodges, pretending that they have any actual spiritual wisdom?

New age or no age, there are no messiahs in reality.

Callidon
12-17-2009, 10:58 PM
Humble Janitor :thumb_yello:

Thunderbird
12-17-2009, 11:27 PM
HJ I got your back dawg.

371
12-17-2009, 11:41 PM
truth bugs ya airman?

or the hurtful reminders?
:naughty:

Nah, i don't need to compensate :lol3:

don't get the airman reference...

Jonah
12-17-2009, 11:48 PM
Getting off topic here.....

New Age Messiah
12-17-2009, 11:55 PM
Does "new age" involve jaded white people that try to co-opt the traditions of indigneous people for profit? Do these "new age" people go on spirit quests and sit in sweat lodges, pretending that they have any actual spiritual wisdom?

New age or no age, there are no messiahs in reality.

No, I have no connection to anyone anything or any movement.

I sits all by myself, in the Goddess's womb, waiting to re-emerge.

waitinginthewings
12-18-2009, 12:00 AM
Has Rense ever had credibility?

I don't see much that puts him above Wilcock or anyone else.

HJ: I know you & others say that Rense is disinfo....I don't know if its true or not.....but I was shocked with his attack last night against Wilcock & I wonder if it was intended also for Camelot....since Rense knows that Wilcock works alongside Bill & Kerry sometimes. As you probably know there seems to be bad blood between Rense & Camelot.

Aside from the political aspect, Rense seemed convinced it was a rocket, which I disagree with wholeheartedly.

New Age Messiah
12-18-2009, 12:00 AM
all i want is for this site to be used for its intended purpose. If that means i have to get on my soap box everynow and then, and make a controversial post that makes me come across as a bit of a twat, then so be it. I don't see many others willing to put their own character on the line, usually the ones that do get butchered into a corner by false rhetoric and get discredited as posters for all time.

I stand for truth, justice, and freedom, and i will not be cowed by your words, because i know they are empty.

Sorry, but I am the chosen one. :original:

My words are, as J.J. would say (my initials, too) DYNOMITE!!!!!

Weeping and nashing of teeth, thrown into the fire, the devil, all that Jesus talked about for entertainment or symbolic reasons only???

Water it all down, so all the nice people can listen an tell their kids Jesus loves them???

Sorry, it's only a matter of a very short time, now, that we have this acceleration thing going on. The entire world will know, there is a New Age Messiah and the religions are all false. :naughty:

And probably it's fairly along the lines of the purpose of this site that such things come to light. :trumpet:

saxapower
12-18-2009, 12:03 AM
D'you know something? It's very funny to see you discussing about something that you probably will never know for sure. :roftl:

It seems that David Wilcock is creating some kind of report about that spiral and will post it in his blog very soon. Anyway, as my grandmother used to say: believe in everything and believe in nothing (I know this sounds quite weird but it loses a lot translating from catalan) :winksmiley02:

waitinginthewings
12-18-2009, 12:03 AM
No, I have no connection to anyone anything or any movement.

I sits all by myself, in the Goddess's womb, waiting to re-emerge.

Are you familiar with Benjamin Creme who is the voice for the Maitreya. This Maitreya is according to Creme to be the new Messiah, and is currently living in Europe? But you say you are the Messiah. I am sure that there are others out there who also make the same claim.

I think I am my own Messiah....thank you all very much anyway.

waitinginthewings
12-18-2009, 12:07 AM
D'you know something? It's very funny to see you discussing about something that you probably will never know for sure. :roftl:

It seems that David Wilcock is creating some kind of report about that spiral and will post it in his blog very soon. Anyway, as my grandmother used to say: believe in everything and believe in nothing (I know this sounds quite weird but it loses a lot translating from catalan) :winksmiley02:

It is true that we will never be told the truth of what it was. I only believe in my heart it was not a rocket. Outside of that, I know nothing.....it is any easy place to hang out.....nothingville......gives the mind a rest:cup:

New Age Messiah
12-18-2009, 12:12 AM
Are you familiar with Benjamin Creme who is the voice for the Maitreya. This Maitreya is according to Creme to be the new Messiah, and is currently living in Europe? But you say you are the Messiah. I am sure that there are others out there who also make the same claim.

No one comes even close to me. Not even close. It's impossible to deny, frankly.

Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 12:13 AM
/yawn

:lmao:

/fail

:lol3:

eleni
12-18-2009, 12:21 AM
"No one comes even close to me. Not even close. It's impossible to deny, frankly."



Excuse me- got a bit of an ego? I normally wouldn't comment on this but couldn't resist :naughty:

waitinginthewings
12-18-2009, 12:23 AM
No one comes even close to me. Not even close. It's impossible to deny, frankly.

Your humility is refreshing....I must take classes from you.:lol3:

Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 12:26 AM
To get back to topic, If the footage in my previous post is true, and Saturn did disappear during the time of the supposed black hole - I don't think HAARP or CERN could do that and the possibility that they could is just as science fiction as the black hole theory if not more. The footage showed more similarity to astronomy and astrology anomalies than a fantasy hologram machine.

Callidon
12-18-2009, 12:31 AM
Machinamentum, i appologise for detracting from your post, the clip is interesting indeed and does warrant further investigation, but whats the betting that those with the ability to do that investigating, don't.

(i'm going to remain on topic now, i've said my peice)

New Age Messiah
12-18-2009, 12:35 AM
"No one comes even close to me. Not even close. It's impossible to deny, frankly."



Excuse me- got a bit of an ego? I normally wouldn't comment on this but couldn't resist :naughty:

It isn't ego, what I meant was the signs and wonders are beyond any imagination impossible, it's obvious who the New Age Messiah is, the true one, not the fabricated one that comes out of Algore's behind. :original:

Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 12:38 AM
Machinamentum, i appologise for detracting from your post, the clip is interesting indeed and does warrant further investigation, but whats the betting that those with the ability to do that investigating, don't.

(i'm going to remain on topic now, i've said my peice)

No no, laughs have been had and valid points have been expressed idc. :thumb_yello:

New Age Messiah
12-18-2009, 12:39 AM
To get back to topic, If the footage in my previous post is true, and Saturn did disappear during the time of the supposed black hole - I don't think HAARP or CERN could do that and the possibility that they could is just as science fiction as the black hole theory if not more. The footage showed more similarity to astronomy and astrology anomalies than a fantasy hologram machine.

I was unable to follow that video, I just couldn't figure out what they were doing, it's nice that you say what the hell they were trying to say.

A) Black Hole ---- 10%
B) Man Made Black Hole ---- 5%
C) Blue Beam Light Show Haarp ----- 40%
D) Russian Missile ---- 45%

Those are the odds, any bets???

I'll be the bank. :wink2:

371
12-18-2009, 12:44 AM
I was unable to follow that video, I just couldn't figure out what they were doing, it's nice that you say what the hell they were trying to say.

A) Black Hole ---- 10%
B) Man Made Black Hole ---- 5%
C) Blue Beam Light Show Haarp ----- 40%
D) Russian Missile ---- 45%

Those are the odds, any bets???

I'll be the bank. :wink2:

D) Russian Missle... with that i said before.

I bet 10 million Esperantosian zweebles.

Payable whenever we get a definite answer.

:naughty:

Thunderbird
12-18-2009, 12:45 AM
:mfr_lol:
:lmao:

Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 12:57 AM
No footage of any missile I have ever seen looks anything like that. The exact percesion of the swirl would indicate some kind of manipulation to space time perhaps through technology either ours or foreign. The footage also shows that the blue trail does not disappear behind the mountain but seems to fade into space before the horizon meets land.

I would have to say it's an intelligently controlled wormhole.

Reminds me of Xibalba.

And what's with all these ancient drawings that show the same thing?

http://www.nd.edu/~ikuijt/Ireland/Photo/20/erie20023small.jpg

There are more pictures in that video I posted on the first page.

Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 01:05 AM
I also heard on the Alex Jones show I think It was this last Sunday edition, that there was another "swirl" in China that was low to the ground. I have not been able to find any evidence yet. Does anyone know of this?

New Age Messiah
12-18-2009, 01:08 AM
I would have to say it's an intelligently controlled wormhole.

Reminds me of Xibalba.

That's nearly the same thing as I said, that there was wrath behind it, inside it, or whatever, IF it was natural (or supernatural, i.e. not man made). I don't know the dif too well between a wormhole and a black hole. Except a wormhole is between two worlds or times, right?

And what's with all these ancient drawings that show the same thing?

http://www.nd.edu/~ikuijt/Ireland/Photo/20/erie20023small.jpg


YEAH, that is remarkable.

371
12-18-2009, 01:12 AM
And what's with all these ancient drawings that show the same thing?

http://www.nd.edu/~ikuijt/Ireland/Photo/20/erie20023small.jpg


It is PHI, the Golden Ratio... you can see it in the petals on a flower and in the swirl design in a seashell too.

http://goldennumber.net/

Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 01:25 AM
Ya it could also be fun to drawn swirls in the sand and if you spin around real fast you might go into a trance.

Who watched all the video I posted. If all that is to represent PHI then what is with the line coming from the center carved into rock that looks strangely familiar to this swirl. Then the disappearance of Saturn, whats up with that?

I just have to say that this is crazy and can be a billion things.

Since when do missiles create perfectly expanding "black hole" looking void suddenly growing out from the center of the swirl.

Any missile failure is to chaotic to have that kind of precision.

I mean come on. Really?!?!

371
12-18-2009, 01:30 AM
The black hole aspect is video fakery, straight up.

Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 01:34 AM
Then they must be doing it alot.

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371
12-18-2009, 01:37 AM
Didn't see a black hole in that vid man.

That one was just a missile, nothing special about it.

That's why it was significantly different than Norway, in pattern and duration.

Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 01:38 AM
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Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 01:40 AM
splain tat!

371
12-18-2009, 01:43 AM
Heh, already did in this thread.

Take my explanation or leave it, I'm not twisting anyone's arm.

Decide for yourself.

Machinamentum
12-18-2009, 01:49 AM
Can anyone provide evidence of a missile which has similar properties.

New Age Messiah
12-18-2009, 02:00 AM
The black hole aspect is video fakery, straight up.

The part that made me think it was a black hole was the tiny needle thing that spiralled into the hole.

The point of singularity in my soul was just like that, after five years of trying to find it, the farthest point my soul was stretched to.

Once I found it and it started to loosen, it was like like a tiny needle and thread that had sewn the whole thing.

It was infinitely small, compared to what it did. Sort of like a seed turning into a tree.

IOW, the spiral has enormous similarities to a black hole, not just the gaping back hole in the center at the end.

Humble Janitor
12-18-2009, 02:01 AM
It isn't ego, what I meant was the signs and wonders are beyond any imagination impossible, it's obvious who the New Age Messiah is, the true one, not the fabricated one that comes out of Algore's behind. :original:

There are NO messiahs.

;)

Reader
12-18-2009, 02:01 AM
Okay, I think it's time to stop feeding this troll

Eventually, He will get hungry and just go away

Humble Janitor
12-18-2009, 02:02 AM
HJ: I know you & others say that Rense is disinfo....I don't know if its true or not.....but I was shocked with his attack last night against Wilcock & I wonder if it was intended also for Camelot....since Rense knows that Wilcock works alongside Bill & Kerry sometimes. As you probably know there seems to be bad blood between Rense & Camelot.

Aside from the political aspect, Rense seemed convinced it was a rocket, which I disagree with wholeheartedly.

Rense probably has bad blood with himself as well. :lol3:

I hope that for his sake, he's never seen a mirror.

Humble Janitor
12-18-2009, 02:05 AM
Okay, I think it's time to stop feeding this troll

Eventually, He will get hungry and just go away

If he thinks he's a messiah, I know of a bridge in Brooklyn that's for sale. Hmm.

It's all in good humor. :thumb_yello:

New Age Messiah
12-18-2009, 02:05 AM
There are NO messiahs.

;)

There are no born of a virgin messiahs. There is a New Age Messiah. :original:

New Age Messiah
12-18-2009, 04:45 AM
This is a hot video on Black Holes...

"Supernovas make metals out of simpler elements. But it takes supermassive black holes to deliver them to the Cosmos. So, amazingly, these monsters are directly responsible for creating us."

http://www.livescience.com/common/media/video/player.php?videoRef=SP_091124_black-hole4

New Age Messiah
12-19-2009, 03:42 AM
Check this picture out...

http://www.rb.no/lokale_nyheter/article4768502.ece

lucrum
12-20-2009, 12:00 PM
What point you making with the last article and its pictures?

Happens where I live whenever the temperature is quite low, below -10 degrees celcius, and the air humidity is high enough to form lightweight icecrystals in the air. All lightsources gets reflected upwards as an optical illusion when the crystals point the same direction. Was like this a couple of days ago.

It looks cool, but that's it. Nothing divine with it at all, other than what you may make of it yourself.